Someone finally uploaded the uncensored episode 11.And episode 12 today, INTERNET YAMERO.
>>288825960Ep. 12 PVhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXBIQQ2BFFo
ame x kache when
>>288826192SOON
>>288825960catbox it, faggot.
>>288826237>doesn't know where to look>posts AI slop>suggests putting a whole anime ep on catboxno u
>>288826348Calm your tits and just tell me you can't do it, anon. I bet someone capable will do it eventually. :)
Naisu.
>>288826348https://www.reddit.com/r/NeedyStreamerOverload/comments/1u7lqe3/needy_girl_overdose_ep11_censoreduncensored_scene/
>>288825960>>288826411>uncensored>still no nipples nor pubesThe current state of anime industry.
I have a theory that Ame wasn’t really abused. There was no one bullying her. Nobody flashed their dick in front of her. Not a single person groped her ass despite her wishes. She has loving parents and everything she mentioned about her past was just an act for the camera (ame playing the piano being a metaphor for a performance). But she’s so schizo she thinks the things that she made up on the spot actually happened. The early drug abuse is probably true though.
>>288825960>INTERNET YAMERO.After thinking about it just a little bit, I'm quite sure I know what the title for episode 13 is going to be.Comment te dire adieu
>>288826411What was the point of censoring this?
>>288826520>>288826783It's weird. Hell, the uncensored version still censors Usa-Pyon foaming (and all the gore), despite her foaming later and it not being uncensored??
>>288826897>>288826783>>288826411>>288825960Why did they even censored it if there wasn't any nipples or pussies
>>288826520Free the nipple!
>>288826411>>288826520Worse yet, the boobs don't even look well drawn.
>>288827059I like to think that it was done on purpose to leave it to viewer's imagination. That would certainly be in the spirit of the show.
>>288827568top kek
>>288827568That's just cope my man, the staff wished they could go all in, but some higher up said no.
>>288827660Of course there are lines they can't cross, but it's a clever move to leave only the implication and have the audience decide for themselves what depraved shit it was meant to hint at. In a way, it could have stronger effect than actually showing it.
How old is Ame by the way? I assume 18 during NGO. Maybe 23-24 after she made it big.
>>288827927I don't think she has a canon age, but we know she used Discord as a high schooler and VHS tapes were relics in her childhood. Assuming the show is set in current year, some anon should be able to figure out a range (I'm retarded)
>>288827535>>288827528>>288827524>>288827589>>288826411>>288825960Who have the autism to edit it into a real uncensored version
>>288825960Lollipop and the power of friendship won!
>>288828553I think I'm autistic and enthusiastic about it enough to want to do that, but it'd be stupid for anyone to edit over a low resolution stream capture. I hope the BDs might change some things, if not I may give it a shot. Maybe.
>>288828664Where did it even got uploaded from
>>288826897That one makes sense because it's the courtroom drama portion of her breakdown and the censorship is diegetic to her hallucination.
>>288826622I would guess either Internet Angel or Levitation.
>>288828664Just do it the low res version now and the all res version later
>>288826520I'll draw the nipples if you suck my dickI'll add the pubes if you eat my shit
>>288825960I've always wondered what airings were like on Japanese platforms, and now I knowIt's SO SHIT. These ads are fucking insufferable
>>288830361>he never watched anime live as it was airing
>>288826520>nor pubesGood.
>>288825960>uncensored>still censoredfuck off
>>288828553who needs autism when you can just use AI to edit in nipples?
>>288830375And I don't want to anymore
>>288827927Lollipop calls her an “old hag”, so she’s definitely in her 20s.
>>288830561Your loss. Watching PO episodes live with the threads was some of the most fun I had on /a/ last year.
30min until JP broadcast, 2 hours for subs.
>>288826411>>288825960So is the bluray going to add nipples, or is this going to be Cross Ange 2.0 where they insult the viewer even harder.
The annoying censorship continues
Nechika-sama...
>>288831536how bad? is it the same as ep11?
Fuck this censorship. They better remove it for BD. At least barbie dolls don't distract so much.
>>288831610Kache has HUGE TITS!
What, they bath together and everything's fine now?
???
Why the fuck are they adding this plot twist in the second to last episode? I thought we'd get Ame resolution.
>>288831713Who the fuck is this?
>>288831681her ex is lucky
In the end, this show needed more yuri.
Literally the Shiboyugeskue Madoka of Evangelion of our generation.
And now she's back?
>>288831918kache?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggr0CDxag-M
>>288831942Ame
>>288826181>>288826237MORE
>>288831728nechika's dad? judging by >>288831735
>>288831999kache
>>288831918why ame looks so old here?
I'm a bit conflicted about this episode.I'll have to wait next week to see how it pays off to judge it.
>>288832189So what's the moral of the story? Lesbianism heals all womens' mental diseases?
Blogpost already out in Japanese.https://note.com/nyalra2/n/nbe2356e6be62
Official art just hits different
>>288832306That's Kache that went back to natural hair color. Next week will apparently be an epilogue after KAngel has quit streaming, so maybe it's about 1 year later or so.
Anyone have a link for the uncensored ep 11?
>>288832547
>>288832584So Ame will really quit being a streamer huh
>>288832584All anime girls rook da seim when not dying their hair in silly colors. Just line real japanese girls.Sasuga nyarla-sama.
>>288832393>So what's the moral of the story? "Touch grass"
well that's not surprising, though I >>288562150 was off by 1 episode>>288832393something something touch grass>>288832584>>288832647it's just like le heckin jesus coming back and leaving o algo
>>288832774Why isn't that car on fire?
>>288832774Holy based https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dv13gl0a-FA
subs are up
>>288825960>uncensored>vomit is still rainbowMy disappointment is immeasurable and my fap is ruined
>>288833228Fuck miruro didn't update yet.
What, you can just combine the follower count of multiple accounts and get a trophy for having the most followers that way?
>>288825960I played the OG game I don't remember any of this gb scenes.
woman moment
Kino episode
Kache getting herself a new boyfriend!
>>288826520
UNTZ UNTZ UNTZ
Didn't watch the episode yetdid she kys ?
that cover of internet yamero was dogshit
that's bullshit
>becomes top of the world>quits>builds a fucking church for her followers???What were they smoking...
>>288825960What's the plot of this shit?I'm not gonna watch it anyway
the production team for this must know alchemythey turned 24 minutes into an hour
Maybe they should've just ended it on this episode.
I feel like I wasted my time and will just pretend this never existed
>>288833831please be patientproduction is in the middle of ripping of the Eva rebuild ending
>>288833863I missed out on buying the Ame/KAngel POP figure. It doesn't hurt so much after this episode. I will buy Kache's, Lolipop's and Michika's figures if they make them.
our streamers! what do they even stream?
>>288826411suck my fat fucking cock nyalra you serpentstay away from the galge industry with your safe shit
>>288833847>What's the plot of this shit?Evangelion except with YT streamers instead of angels
Can lesbianism cure depression?
Cute
She's absurdly busty
Pretty
Why was this not the last episode?
Nechika is a cheating whore
Sure didn't expect a happy ending (?) I have no idea what's the deal with the "epilogue". Even though Kache already told us, sort of.
I need a webm of that tear flowing down
>>288832774Love that scene, Lollipop is so precious
>>288834225
Somehow I understood previous episode better than this.
If the final episode sticks the landing, this will be my first 10/10 since Akiba Meido Sensou
>>288834482This is the first seasonal in a while that really caught me but I would never place a 10/10 in it, way too many weak moments throughout the show.But I'm also a hipster that likes experimental shit so who cares what I think
>>288834429I got you bro>>288833772It's just like WWE anon, the defeated always come back to retake their throne
>>288834520I'm sure my 10/10 is controversial. But that's because the weak moments are completely necessary. Nyalra and I share a single brain cell.
>>288834545Cheers
https://youtu.be/Tf3nbOkfeK4?si=CI3f8FFYgbhUtypGFinally some good fucking music
Is purple gay?
>>288832752no thanks nyalra/anno
>>288834742>red+blueof course
what was the point of the nechika scenes this episodeit's too late isn't it
>>288832393sex can't save youshitposting on the internet does Incels are the alpha and omega.
This anime needs to end on a title drop
>>288834482>>288834520>>288834557"Technically" speaking, this show has many, many, many flaws.But that's what I like so much about it. It does not care some structure to be followed, about a score, or some number. For me it's this uncompromising heart it had, this care to convey a story in a style that feels free and personal.Like it, dislike it, here it is.
>>288832393Don't take the internet too seriously.Ame took the internet very seriously because it was her escape from reality. Then, when Karamazov dethroned her, she had a total breakdown. This episode was about Ame changing her perspective to not find her self worth in the internet but to find it in herself and her friends. Now, she's able to be on the internet without it seriously effecting her. As a result, she grew to dominate the world. And of course, because she no longer needs it, KAngel left the internet behind
Well at least it was visually entertaining.
>>288833863See you next week
>>288834429
How stinky are Ame's farts?
>>288834520>This is the first seasonal in a while that really caught me but I would never place a 10/10 in it, way too many weak moments throughout the show.Have you ever given something a 10/10?
>>288834945I wouldn't really say it's genuine at all. I guess it's kind of interesting to see an anime about girls wanting approval from people by a guy who keeps adding references to different works for approval from peopleWhether or not the creator is aware of this I am unsure
So... where does the francise go from here? More merch or more spinoffs like NGO Shipudden? Personally, I'like a Kache prequel/sequel, specially how did she lose her virginity to shitty indie rockband guy, with detailed penetration scenes.
>>288835060>a guy who keeps adding references to different works for approval from peopleHow do you know he does it for approval and not just because he likes them?
>>288835041Yeah, plenty of them, even to games that I objectively believe have plenty of flaws
>not used goodsBOOOOOOOOOOOOOO don't pussy out of the realism, Nyalra.
>>288834973So I shouldn't care if someone calls me a fag and keep shitposting anyways? Thanks anon.
>>288835118>So I shouldn't care if someone calls me a fag No>and keep shitposting anyways?You shouldn't shitpost because that's mean to your internet friends
>>288835069because he wouldn't keep shoving in in if he simply liked themyou can tell in his interviews and stuff that he really wants you to like him
>>288835098Last show I expected them to pull the "don't worry gaiz she's still a virgin LAMO" card on
>>288835155Are you... my friend? UwU
>>288835098How much does Michika charge?Would she be willing to come to my appartment? Asking for a fren.
>>288831718was this a guest animator like Orbitten
>>288835309You need to show her enough dollar bills to make her black out
>>288835098>30k yen>About $180 She better give me a god-tier footjob for thar price.
>>288832393The internet isn't Serious Business.
>>288835024Many thanks to you, too, for the no-subs version
>>288835202>because he wouldn't keep shoving in in if he simply liked themHow do you know that?
>>288831918>Kache (FORMA DE NORMA)
I think I've realized that I only really like Ame/Angel because I find her relatable and cute. I really don't give shit about any of the other girls and I'm nowhere as fascinated by modern female existence/problems as nyalra seems to be, so when it comes to this show there's almost nothing for me to care about. It's basically an edgy "adult" spin on shoujo idol anime that just so happens to center around Ame.
>>288835228Everyone who likes NGO is my fren>>288835411Anytime, anon-tachi
>>288835444stated in my previous reply
>>288835486Oh ok, so you're just making up lies about Nyalra
My opinions on this show change every other episode.I actually quite liked this one, probably my favourite since episode 4.
pantsutrannis how we holding up
>>288835462The last episode title is a reference to a little girl anime: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tf3nbOkfeK4
Given the previous episodes and knowing nyalra at this point, I would say there is a 99% chance the necklace Karamazov gave Kache represents a globus crucifer.
>>288835098>she's on a crossbravo Nyolan
>>288834584bless!
Lesbian orgy when?
>>288826411It's funny that the"uncensored" version is still censored
Just going to make a list to see if I got everyone's character rightAme: Started relying on the internet to cope with her abusive upbringing. Adopted the Internet Angel moniker to save people like her, becoming a messiah allegory. But, troll comments effected her so personally that she began abusing pills. After Karamazov took her mantle as #1 in Japan, this shattered her sense of self worth and precipitated a mental breakdown. However, Karamazov was able to save Ame by giving her a sense of self worth outside the internet. This is proven by Ame returning to the internet, becoming #1 in the world, then walking away from itMichika: Very similar to Ame mentally. However, her friendship with Kache and later the other members of Karamazov stopped her from breaking down completely. Nechika: Actually a fairly normal girl who enjoys streaming. Her father was poor and a gambler, but otherwise her home life was healthy. Purple Lollipop: An early fan of Ame. She was a loner who Ame saved, yet PL began to realize that Ame was saving others at the cost of herself. As a result, PL sought to overthrow Ame by taking her #1 spot without the self sacrifice in order to prove to Ame that she doesn't need to suffer. The rebelling against her savior's philosophy makes her a Judas allegory. After succeeding at saving Ame, PL can sit back and enjoy KAngel's world takeoverKache: She's the one I remember the least about. IIRC, she's much more on the normalfaggot side of social outcasts. She was Michika's first friend and serves as a bridge for how the average stream viewer sees their idols
>>288835098She's used goods if you consider her sleeping with Nechika as her not being a virgin and there is no guarantee her hymen is intact if she gets the strap
>>288835593it's actually an obscure Japanese only PS1 racing game reference https://youtu.be/Z4m2SVeIVCM?si=1-7AyU-ERO-5iTf4
>>288835728>But, troll comments effected her so personally that she began abusing pills.wasn't Ame already abusing pills way before any comments were affecting her or did I get it wrong? I think you got everyone else right though.
>>288835728Never played the game but that's also how I understood them through the anime.
>>288835874>wasn't Ame already abusing pills way before any comments were affecting her or did I get it wrong?That's what I can't remember. I know she got prescribed them around the time she was almost raped, but I can't remember if she abused them. She might have though, that and the cutting might be pre-KAngel>>288835897I'm animeonly too, though I should download the game
>>288835728>Kache: She's the one I remember the least about. IIRC, she's much more on the normalfaggot side of social outcasts. She was Michika's first friend and serves as a bridge for how the average stream viewer sees their idolsShe is a KAngel fan girl who wants to be noticed by her and might be mentally ill. Her friend calls her a normie and she dislikes being seen by her that way as if she is irrelevant. Her feelings are hurt, she was raped by her boyfriend repeatedly, and she wants to die. Her character is kind of more interesting than the others imo.
>>288835063>where does the francise go from here? Merch, gacha collabs and kusoge spin-offs until the end of time.
>>288835728I agree with most of this, except we're not sure Ame's drug abuse only started after becoming a streamer. Maybe she became a messiah figure because she subconsciously felt she needed to be saved herself.Kache is the bridge between two worlds: too grounded to commit to a streamer persona, but too alienated to feel completely at home among well-adjusted people. That dual perspective is why she has what it takes to snap Michika and Ame out of it during their lowest moments.
>>288835936>boyfriend>rapedSilly anon, a boyfriend cannot rape his girlfriend. By agreeing to be in a relationship, she should be always available. How can rape happen if your girl is already yours? It's like saying I stole my own money by breaking my piggy bank before it's full.
You will never in a million years convince me Nyalra is not a BSfag after today's episode.
>>288835845not completely sure but do streamer otaku see girl on girl action/japanese lesbians the same way as used goods?
Please stop giving me more weird fetishes...
>taking a shower with a wig ondo nips really?
So did Ame just kill herself or did she go one to find happiness finger blasting Purple Loli?
>>288826181>>288825960ZAMNNNNN WHY DID PAY ATTENTION TO THIS SHOW BEFORE
>>288835728>>288835874>>288835924>That's what I can't remember. I know she got prescribed them around the time she was almost raped, but I can't remember if she abused them. She might have though, that and the cutting might be pre-KAngelAme says it herself, the comments gave her a bigger high than the drugs she took ever hoped to do so, the comments and hate only fuel her being and did nothing to harm her because it's ultimately the proof that as kangel ame IS reaching other people like her.The substance abuse is because deep down ame knows she doesn't measure up to her ideal self as an internet angel and she doesn't know how to accept that she too can be human, she can be her own self and seek friendship too, and that is not too broken that she can't heal anymore.
>>288834973"How is cyberbullying real bro just walk away" the anime
Alright congrats nyalra on creating a show where I have absolutely no fucking clue what'll happen in the last episode I love this feeling
>>288836227BEACH EP BEACH EP!!!!
Is it still burning?
>>288836028Those were my thoughts upon seeing the greek buildings too.
Bless
>>288834583This fit is so fucking cute
It's KINO I'm afraid
>>288836028what did any of this have to do with Black Souls
>this segment for no real reasonAOTY, antis on suicide watch
>>288836037Yes anon, it countThere is entirely a yuri manga about ithttps://mangadex.org/title/bd0f8a88-6846-4a6f-814b-4aa97c80f78f/shiroki-otome-no-jinrou
>>288836170>The substance abuse is because deep down ame knows she doesn't measure up to her ideal self as an internet angel and she doesn't know how to accept that she too can be human, she can be her own self and seek friendship too, and that is not too broken that she can't heal anymore.That's also what makes her rebirth and disappearance meaningful. She incorporated her experience of failure, humiliation and recovery into her KAngel persona to make it more human, which only made her more relatable and more popular. Then, at the peak of her fame, she chose to leave behind an empty church: the pure idea of idol worship without the need for anyone to sit on the empty throne, and therefore without the pressure of anyone having to be good enough.Anyone can visit that empty church to shout their existential angst into the void, and the only answer they will receive is the echo of their own voice and recognition from others like them, because that's all they really needed.
>>288835069Read his book Spider (Kumo). Read his blog. That's like his whole central topic as a writer.
>>288836227Dibs on the twist of the final episode is that there's no twist. Kache said what's going to happen, everyone lived ordinary lives happily ever after the best they could, the end.
>>288836363they just really wanted to poptepicand who can blame them. I'd want to poptepic, too.
>>288835593>>288835866Make sure to buy the shampoo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEI3KmIfsmM
>>288836037the streamer otaku utopia train of thought is that every vtuber that they watch is bisexual that constantly fucks all of her partner vtubers and is only heterosexual for (you) unless they are into ntr or similar.
>>288836363>for no real reasonKAngel was a spoiled, out-of-touch queen, like Marie Antoinette.Her followers hungred for sustenance, but all Ame could offer after she was brought back down to earth and became too human to work miracles was a pop culture reference (Ame-Ame-HAAAAA!) to make it rain (ame 雨) candy (ame 飴), which satisfied her followers' cravings in the short term but has no nutritional value, much like streaming content.
>>288836376>an empty church: the pure idea of idol worship without the need for anyone to sit on the empty throne, and therefore without the pressure of anyone having to be good enough.>Anyone can visit that empty church to shout their existential angst into the void, and the only answer they will receive is the echo of their own voice and recognition from others like them, because that's all they really needed.This is some level of insight that physically hurt me to read because it's so correct.
>>288836302I held my tongue at the Alice because that's just everywhere in Japan (even if the rabbit ears headband is slightly specific) but he really put Winterbell in there at the end. Even if they're both based on existing stuff it's a big coincidence at minimum to have both and both somewhat out of nowhere.
>>288836448I always wondered how lesbians fuck. Do they really feel pleasure just rubbing cunts together? Man, using strap-on and dildos just feels like a huge copout to me: they end up shoving a not!penis into each other.Maybe that cognitive disonance is what drives each dyke into insanity.
i thought it was a good episode, maybe the best one overall
>>288836363It's also a metaphor for doing drugs to ignore reality / watching streams to ignore reality. There's a drought (things suck) so she does drugs and then becomes the drug for her followers.
>>288836420>inb4 Ame and friends turn into regular office workers despite being rich as fuckYou know it's coming. Japs can't help themselves.
>hymns that belong to no religion play without end
Ame wouldn’t have left if Lollipop had put out.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGp_x1O2-e0Aren't a couple shots in this from no episode yet? Or am I stupid?
I did not understand this episode
>>288836574My only gripe with it was the bad CGI sequence in the fucking climax. But I guess it's impossible to escape CGI in current year.
>>288836376I have been an mtgfag for over 20 years. The first time I saw this card spoiled in January 2006, it gave a strange feeling that I couldn't properly define. Now I can begin to understand why a church with no God within feels so eerily real.
>>288836570>Do they really feel pleasure just rubbing cunts together?The clitoris is the female equivalent of the glans and labia are sensitive to a degree too. So yeah tribbing feels good.
THIS WENT NOWHEREKACHE HAS NO REASON BEING HERETHE ENTIRE MICHIKA MELTDOWN ENDED IN NOTHINGTHIS SHOW IS AS I CANNOT BELIEVE YOU TRICKED ME WATCHING INTO A BUNCH OF IMAGES MADE FOR DRUG ADDICTS GOING WHOAAA DEEEP
>>288836363This coulda been a bunch of sketch and sol but went for shaft at home yapping
>>288836722Go watch your current marvelslop then. I heard they released new shiny cards yesterday.
>anime is over>no plot twistthis has been ass to watch, but threads been sillystill will not rewatch or recommend to anyone
>>288836767explain what this anime is about then besides otaku bad and a bunch of post modern images
>>288836722>>288836775Kek NGO induced melty
>>288836624I feel like nyalra is too young to be as mentally cucked as Anno
>>288836760Me in the iron maiden
>>288836722Kache is there because she's a normal person, in contrast to the streamers who are all varying degrees of sick.
>>288836796Too much computer time is bad for you. Go play outside and make frienda with cute girls.There. Easy peachy. :3
>>288826181Epic endcard this week huh?Someone link real endcards pls>>288825960was there anything besides that one rape scene, I saw the comparison from **ddit someone posted here
Someone post the .webmYou know the one.
>>288836227It better be all the OCs are tulpas inside Ame's head
>>2888283442000-2006 I guess?
>>288836954
>>288832017Go to pixiv, anon.ID is the filename.
>>288836993It'll be years before we get a show this good again.
I just can't hate an anime referencing the best ending of any anime
>>288836722>Ame back to no.1 tooMan I feel like this show's a bit insulting to people who actually need meds.>just go outside and have good friends lol>completely ignores the effects of suddenly not taking 99999999 drugsI knew I'll be disappointed but im still disappointed
>>288837038anon pls I didnt wanna cum a third time today
>>288836648The only shot I don't remember at all is pic rel around 3:53.
>>288836993it was all worth it for the door
>>288837067Soilent Green is Anons!
I thought this show would be a lot more negative about streamers but it seems like he respects streamers and their role even while calling them fucked up, like how people romanticize artists and their suffering
>>288837067POUR UPDRANK
>>288837093The author is a hololive fan
>>288837038God I want to suck her toes so bad.
>>288837135Did he shid himself
>>288837135did he died??
>>288836899>>288835728>serves as a bridge for how the average stream viewer sees their idolsdesu that doesn't really make sense though, Kache is still a streamer anyway just not a popular one, Nechika is perfectly well-adjusted herself and was the actual person who reached out to ame, Kache only had a quick chat with kangel at the end and that's pretty much it.Unless nyalra is trying to say that because Nechika is a dyke she will never be normie enough and Kache was needed to heal ame because of that KEK
>>288837038>>288837099Thread blessed.
>>288837192>Kache is still a streamer anyway just not a popular oneShe was a literal 2view who quit in like ep 5
So now that it’s almost said and done.Kache > Lollipop > Nechika > Ame> Michica > KAngle
>>288837293Ame > Michika > Lollipop > Nechika > Kache >>> KAngel
>>288837293In mental sanity? Yes
>>288837293leave Kurt out of this
>>288837293Lollipop > Ame > Nechika > Michika > Kache > KAngel
>>288837394It's impressive how memably slow this scene seems out of context but how well it flows when watching it.
>>288837394Such a nice apartment...
>>288826181wtf sex sloppa
>>288837394I don't think any show in years has had as much memetic impact on this board as this show has had
>>288837167He did, he comments on it too in the audio.>>288837182He did not, but if he's who I think he is this isn't even the dumbest thing he's done.
>>288837433>but how well it flows when watching it.anon...
>>288837588Fat whores.
>>288837612>KAngel as Madonna and Child>but it's one baby and one older child>her inheritors are three peopleThat has to mean something, but I'm not smart enough to figure it out.
>>288837588Kache doesn't have all that right...
Did Ame fuck the purple goblin?
>>288837588Why do their tits keep growing every episode? Is there some kind of drug that keep puberty going into your twenties?
>>288834815you're only asking what the point is now?
>>288832393>het = abuse>yuri = healingYuri wins again. How do hetcucks even cope? From Ikuhara to Okouchi to Nyalra all bold creatives agree that yuri is just better.
Made to be covered with a comically exaggerated spray of blood from Purple's nose
>>288837847Where do you think all the food she stuffs herself with goes to? Still can't compete with Nechika's implants though.
The writing and subject matter were all on point. The only issue I had was that it was ass
I know one of you fags has been compiling every nail shot
>>288837904Mammories, Kache. They grow in response to someone needing a mother.
>>288838326I always wonder how do they wipe their butts with nails that long. Sometimes I fear they might have shit stuck on them.
Was this show a love letter to KAngel herself? I believe it. After 12 episodes it was basically the equivalent of watching her have yuri sex for hours I don’t really know how else to explain it.
>>288838557They use their nails to press the bidet button and wipe once everything is clean
>>288838630I hate that Japs have gaslighted the world into thinking that's what a bidet is.
>>288838557As expected of a long nosed barbarian. The people of Yamato have advanced toilets that clean your butt with water automatically, no wiping required. But I shouldn't be surprised if the women of the white pig devils have shitsmeared hands at all times.
>>288837433if you skip by 5 second intervals or raise the speed to 5x its bearable
>>288838326What's the appeal of tacky nails?
>>288838688No, it's very nice in the context of the episode, you're just a brainfried zoomie addicted to tiktok slop.
>>288838658So what's your fancy word for "machine that sprays water to clean your ass" then?
>EZ DO DANCEBASED BASED BASED
>>288838751bum gun clearly
>>288838629What's the hetcuck status? Are we approaching G-Witch levels of cope and denial yet?
absolutely insane that there's another episode after this.
>>288835866Given how nyalra is, it's a reference to both, he is a fan of the Pretty series after all.
>>288838702They're cute, if you can't appreciate them you're just too much of a man.
>>288838751This thing is a bidet. The fucking toilet water spray is a sin against god.
>>288838702Its one of those girl things that are just fun to do. Fake nails or not you paint them and decorate them to your liking. I like simpler decorated ones like picrel the most but regular polish-only nails are good too.
>>288838702It's objectification coded and bimbo adjacent.
>>288838912>The fucking toilet water spray is a sin against god.No, it feels good.
>>288838733I don't watch shorts thoughever and I read alot. Come on now, shitpost about ngo instead
>>288838912>The fucking toilet water spray is a sin against god.Sounds like it's fucking based.
>>288838912>The fucking toilet water sprayThat sounds like it's spraying poop water back at you
>>288838912>noooooooooooo it must be a separate piece of porcelain or you're going against gods will mooooooooooooooooooooooooods
>>288838771>Bum Bum:Water Pistol
>>288839045H-Hot
I thought I hated Karamazov, but I think I just hate Lollipop. She's a sanctimonious little shit and the universe bends itself around to prove her right at everything. She really brings the show down.
>>288839083The water spray in the toilet is objectively less clean than the one where you soap yourself up and actually wash yourself.
This show more than any other this year has really grown on me. I started off disliking it because I had a knee jerk reaction to it, but as the show has gone on I've become increasingly invested in it. I do think the actual quality of the writing and episode direction has improved as the show has gone on as well though. Episode 10 is hands down one of the best episodes of anime this year.
>>288839185She's only right because KAngel proved herself wrong and spurred Lollipop on to dethrone her.Everyone is this show is sanctimonious because they're streamers. It's part of the job because it generates (You)s, by (You).
>>288838702It's decorative
>>288839185>the universe bends itself around to prove her right at everythingBecause she is
>>288839279But also painful when inserted. Doesn't sound worth it.
Pale girl titties are the fuckin' best
>>288837433That's the show in general for me. I never really felt bored, but watching webms out of context makes them feel unbearably slow, even the ones that are only like 20 seconds.
>>288837880god i love nechika
>>288831596They are fucking HUGE
>>288838912I was so confused when I first heard bidet used for a shower head looking thing.
>>288839306>when insertedI-Inserted where?
>>288839298>>288839185Lollipop is a HERO
>>288839500
>>288838658in japan they're called washletsthe fault is in the english name
I hate this double standard the show has where hosts are horrible people taking advantage of poor women by pretending to like them for their money but the streamers are victims for having to pretend to like disgusting otaku to take their money
>>288839695Yeah, I don't understand much of the difference...
>>288839695Women get away with it as usual
>>288838678>But I shouldn't be surprised if the women of the white pig devils have shitsmeared hands at all times.They don't, they just have diets that don't require washing before the shower.
>>288839695She knows she's bad, that's why she's asking her brothers to be better.
>>288839695Women deserve more than men
>>288839695There is nothing worse than a male otaku after all.
It was cinema
>>288839695She's still bitter about the last host who played her.
>>288835728michika has her obsession with her twisted idea of beauty too
>>288835367wish we kept that mantra from the mid 90s to early 00s internet.
>>288835367>The internet isn't Serious Business.
>>288839695:)Nyarla is fucking retarded. Shame someone like that gets to succeed and produce garbage like this. The only reason this was bearable was because of the staff hard carrying a completely ass script
>>288840109Quiet Host, go refill my drink.
Nechika will pair her brothers with the girls and expand the family household. Trust the plan
>>288840109
>>288826181nasty
Kache pleasures men for free ramen noodles
>>288840273Kache losing to her female instincts...
>>288839185Name one thing Lolli is wrong about
>>288840240Im too much of an enjoyer.
>>288840273They didn't detail his face so I could personally self-insert as Kache's hard working new bf
>>288840376My POV after I break through Kache's door to rape her
Was P-chan the friends we made along the way
>>288837874No, Lolipop is top, so is otherside
>>288840406You can only do that if you're a normal person, but because you are here then you aren't normal person so you can't be him.
>>288836683i think the CGI makes more sense, with the "concert" visual in kangels mind, while being "streams" in reality, are part of her and/or the other characters shared delusion. it makes even more sense when you've watched pretty rhythm or aikatsu series (nyalra has so much yurika merch that i think she was in every single room tour video he posted) since you know he likes CGI idol anime now with animeonly context added from the episode 12 title.
>>288840438P-chan was the friends she did NOT make along the way.
>>288836993That close up fucking kills me every time.
Game is on 66% discount today everyone
so I guess p-chan just goes right back where he belongs then huh
I'll miss these retards, and Nechika-sama.
>>288839695Host shit is way more personal than watching some slut with 10k other dudes.
>>288841817Not really. In case of hosts, there's a storefront, you know it's a place that sells something, and the only reason why anyone would pretend otherwise is if they're delusional, which is no different from what the girls are doing. To put it another way, if a guy falls in love with a whore you'd probably think that he's a fucking idiot. Whether businesses like these take advantage of people's weakness is an entirely different question though.
>>288841637You should not buy the game because Nyalra was cucked out of ownership by the publisher. Pirate it.
>>288835845It doesn't count if it's yuri sex. She's still pure.
>>288842264Feet are a very important and necessary way to show anxiety
>insane asuka mindrape type shit all throughout ep11>shot-for-shot recreation of game ending "INTERNET OVERDOSE" where she is clearly driven to suicide>everything set up for a sayori moment when loli and kache break into ame's flat>she's actually fine and ep12 swerves into "billions must smile :)"did they swap out the script for an entirely different draft of the show or smth? i'm so fucking mad
>>288839792If that were the case, she would tell them not to become streamers like her instead of telling them not to become hosts.
>>288842314you might be retarded if u expected her to die or smth.I thought its gonna be taken more seriously at least though lol
>>288832752>>288834973>>288835367The message falls flat when Ame comes back and is still doing the "I'm going to save every lonely otaku" thing and she becomes the biggest bestest streamer in the whole wide world with a bajillion followers. The whole problem is that it was written by someone who's in love with and romanticizes streamers way too much.
>>288842431>The message falls flat when Ame comes back and is still doing the "I'm going to save every lonely otaku" thing and she becomes the biggest bestest streamer in the whole wide world with a bajillion followers.Explain how. You didn't understand the anime if you think this is contradictory
>>288842460Because she still thinks of her followers as needing saving and herself as the angel who will be their savior.
So what the fuck was the point of bringing Kache to Ame's place anyway?
>>288842487No she doesn't. Rewatch the episode and tell me where that was said
>>288842498she also was the one who confronted michika mid overdose so it was probably just lolipop being flustered and wanting someone with experience. power of friendship
>>288842498Why leave her behind?
>>288838114>Yuri wins againAlways
i didn't like that the visual metaphors were often spelled out explicitly by showing the referenced material. a more tasteful show would've simply let astute viewers catch the metaphors while leaving midwits dumfounded and confused. but then again, this is an intentionally tasteless show and hence it gets to flash the references front and center. what a flawed show, i enjoy it very much.
>>288838958not compared to a real bidet after using it but i guess it's better than nothing
>>288842505Lollipop said the only thing she can do is try to save everything and in KAngel's comeback she said to her audience it's her mission to heal them because she's the internet angel. Nyalra just glorifies streamers so much it's like he's portraying them through some sort of martyr complex.
>>288839695>character isn't allowed to ask her ikimen brothers not to become sleazebag hosts because they just can't!It isn't like this show hasn't criticized streamers at all...I think your being unfair.
>>288839695This. The only thing I hate that I can definitively put my finger on with this show.I can only guess that nyalra is either too big of a streamer/shoujo fan or perhaps just too far up his own ass to see the hypocrisy>>288842753as if streamers can't be sleazebags
>>288842704kangel has always been trashy and intentionally grating since the original game, i find her whole world attractive.
>>288842779Kangel herself made it clear that she is a sleazebag of a human being. However she continues to sell a dream to her fans in spite of that. What is it you aren't understanding?
>>288831587>>288831596The cows have lined up!
>>288839695Another thing is that Kache's job at the theme cafe is basically the same thing but she's portrayed as a victim needing to appease creepy men instead of someone taking advantage of lonely men to siphon their money.
Who would be the best mother?
>>288842498Probably to beat Ame up if she didn't cooperate, just like she did to Michika.
congratulations scene next episode
>>288843098Kache. She already has the tits for the job. And Nechika as a very close second.
>>288843156nechika would only be a good father
>>288842752The message is about not investing yourself in the internet to the point that it hurts you. KAngel's comeback is directly about her being able to help people without hurting herselfYou did not understand the anime
>>288842828she's the only streamer out of the bunch to have selfless intentions, even then it's not>in spiteit's actually BECAUSE since she gets high off of this >>288836170Anyway I wouldn't even have a problem with any of this had this show not be so sanctimonious
>>288832547Holy fuck
>>288838758>DANCE>13th episode >The lives of all the girls after leaving the internet.Ready to see your favorite anime girls married to salarymen and with pregnant bellies, /a/?
>>288843330Yes, and I mean that genuinely. It would bring me pure joy to see Ame happy
>>288842753>>288842828This show doesn't criticize streamers the same way even though they deserve it. If there's any criticism of streamers, it's through the lens of the suffering of the real person behind the streamer's virtual persona that the audience can't see. You said it yourself. "She continues to sell a dream to her fans in spite of that," but it doesn't show that the dream is empty. The show doesn't portray the profoundly negative impact streamers have on their audience and society like it does with hosts.
>>288838758Whats with the Pripara reference?
>>288843376Kek dude why are you so mad about streamers?
>>288843367kangel wasnt meant to be a mother, like she said. and ame is too much like her own mother. i would prefer kache have a kid that might have a normal life.
Lesbian beach episode next.
>>288825960If your show is so good, then why it's ranked so low?
>>288843415I'm not specifically angry about streamers any more than I am about hosts. It's just hypocritical writing.
>>288843469>rankings
>>288843469do you truly value the opinions of people who rate a show before all of the episodes are out?
>>288843376Well, it's the writers opinion that streamers aren't quite as bad as hosts. It can't be helped can it? I wouldn't condemn an anime for not sharing identical opinions to my own. If I did I would hate a lot of anime I like.
>>288843421If you played the game you would know Ame wants to get married and live a normal wife life
The power of friendship saved Ame and gave her the strength to come back as KAngel and become the too streamer of the world.
>>288843330I'm honestly fine with Ame getting (happily) married, this IP is over anyways, might as well do it.I just hope they don't pair her with Lollipop.
>>288843469Ranking has never once truly mattered when it comes to good anime.
>>288843556its a convenient delusion for her, like a lot of the shit she says in the game, yeah. during both her backstory episode and her meltdown she thought about how her mother fucked her up permanently. if anything i think she would have permanent anxiety around kids, especially considering the "fish" in the toilet while shes ODing, she's probably imagined herself as pregnant and miscarrying.
>they see your cock
OD Bestiesss!!!!
>>288843533It's not about sharing a different opinion. It's the lack of self-awareness.
>>288843330Girls can’t get girls pregnant.
Curious that the translations were different hereI'll assume the non-CR one is more accurate
Michica is a SLUT!
Breast size ranking:Nechika > Kache >>>>> Ame >>> Michika > Lollipop
>>288843635>everyone without the same opinion as me is subhumanPerhaps, but what will you do about it?
>>288843642That's what the 3 Nechikas (male) are for!Who's going to end up alone?
>>288843671>It's not about sharing a different opinion
>>288832774>even has the water cupKinoThe bits of eurobeat in the OP were enough to know the author's a fan, but this sequence was fun
>>288843376>it doesn't show that the dream is emptyI feel like the anime could've used Ame's experiences with her 2 imaginary friends to explore that too like how useless they are when shit actually hits the fan IRL, such wasted potential>>288843533no nyalra, it's like you can't see the parallels between the two and consequently apply the same type of criticisms
>>288843644The CR one makes more sense in context because Michica is talking about herself.
>>288843685The fact that you couldn't understand what I said makes you subhuman to me. watashi no kachi desu ne.
>>288837904She's a fat bitch who asks for seconds>>288833594>I like him because... he fed me!
>>288843642
>fucking normalfag
>>288843533Then the only thing that can be said is that the writer is delusional, because that's not even an opinion, that's just downright wrong. It's like a painter saying that he's an honest man who captures beauty and sell pictures, while singers are evil wizards who lead people astray with their voices.>I wouldn't condemn an anime for not sharing identical opinions to my ownSame. Nyalra has zero subtlety though, it's too easy to make fun of him.
Me when I'm told to just go outside
Kache was breast feeding Michika to ween her off the meds? That’s why her boobs got so big.
>>288843734Wrong, its like a painter saying hes an honest man who captures beauty and sells pictures, while photographers are evil wizards who lead people astray with their false art.
I really ought to read this
>Ode to JoyKino, it really elevated the sequence, I love this song so much
>>288843761i may not be an animeonly but all the book and movie references did indeed go over my head until i saw people pointing them out. it makes me feel like i need to be a more well rounded human being to understand
>>288843760How about AI?
>>288832393Some people are just completely fucked up and they cannot be "saved" because they don't want to be. Just look after yourself and be nice to everyone in your life but don't keep trying to help someone who refuses to help themselves.
>>288843786Same but I try to use the feeling as a drive to pick up things I usually don't doLiterature is something I'm ashamed of not consuming more, I have no reason for neglecting it as much as I do
>>288843761I missed the last two threads. Was the Judas monologue in episode 10 also from Dostoevsky?
Freedom.
>>288843790I considered AI, but I thought it was to far of a gap from a painter. It would be a digital artist complaining about AI though.
>>288843830>quitting the InternetImpossible.
>>288832547You just know Ohisashiburi has drawn official porn in private but can't share it.
>>288843859this is the coinflip we are all waiting on till next week
>>288843820>Was the Judas monologue in episode 10 also from Dostoevsky?I asked the same thing, but no. It's from a famous Japanese fanfic of the Bible. An anon linked it in the Ep10 thread
>>288843869The only good reason to hate nyalra.
>>288825960Is this actual rape or metaphorical rape?Honestly I only played the game once, I got the ending where she overloads with love and the game crashes and uninstalled it because I though the game peaked there, in my headcanon she just went to live with me happily ever after
>>288843907psychotic melty. your waifu is safe
>P-chan, my self-insert, is nowhere to be seenShit anime
>>288843992you clearly missed the pink cat ears on lollipop
>>288831713F dad, he was a good guy
>>288836376Great post>>288836548It's funny how the farther we stray from religion, the more we see why it exists in the first place
>>288844133Religion is for autistic people. If someone really wanted to scream into the void they can do it without a pointless white building. They don’t even have to move a single inch anywhere.
>>288844327>If someone really wanted to scream into the voidThey wouldn't go to a church if that's all they wanted to do.
I must’ve misunderstood the episode because it didn’t seem to me like KAngel’s comeback was for the people, but instead her own validation, as her speech went on for minutes before.
>>288841817Streamers of the e-thot variety are as bad if not worse than hosts. The whole model is built around creating parasocial relationships on a mass scale to exploit for as much cash as possible. Some of them even have manuals on how to take advantage of lonely men, create personal connections, scam them out of all their money, and make them go into debt and take out multiple loans to keep taking money from them. One such streamer, Airi Sato, was stabbed to death on stream by a former fan she scammed.
>>288844625KAngle is known by her fans and haters for sniffing her own farts online so this is just par for the course.
>everyone hated it in the beginning>everyone loves it nowWhat went so goddamn right?
>>288844993I am the opposite. Well, I don't hate it, but I was disappointed in how it turned out (so far).
Did someone say EZ DO DANCE?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTA0upqbgi0
>>288845070I think an anime such as this is too deep for the average watcher to understand. It throws around literature references like it’s trying to prepare you to understand HxH and not everyone is immediately going to get it. People expected CGDCTs but with mental illness not a course in psychology 101 so that’s completely understandable.
>>288845265>CGDCTs but with mental illness>a course in psychology 101These two are inseperable. I'm not sure how anyone could reach another conclusion... unless they themselves are failed normies rather than fellow ame.
>>288845265I wouldn't go so far as to say that "it's too deep for the average watcher to understand", but rather that the average watcher had a knee-jerk reaction with the first couple episodes, most people were expecting perhaps a quirky game adaptation, not an original sequel that focused on new characters, and didn't like it outright because it was not what they were expecting.
>>288845360I think most people expected it would be different with the original characters. Just not the constant incoherent babbling of the female schizo minds almost nonstop literally EVERY single episode. It’s hard to recommend because of that. But when the show stopped and took 10 seconds to do something different it was pretty fun. Very experimental though.
One episode left, explain what this anime is about, you can do that right anon???
>>288845560Goth lesbian took the interwebs way too seriously. Her dyke friends and a normie come to her aid, seasoned with pretentious avant garde/masturbatory imagery.
>>288845560menhera women doing menhera things
>>288845560Humanity needs religion, whichever form it may take. If it isn't institutionalized religion, it's stuff like streamers.
Since we're talking about reactions and the show is almost over, here's some quick approximate data I gathered from the archives, about the use of the word "pretentious". Considering only threads with 100+ replies.>In the first three weeks combined, there were 128 or so uses of the word.>In the following weeks, the use hovered around 1-6 each thread, for 1 or 2 threads each week.>There were only two threads where there was no use of the word, the first Ep. 11 thread and this this very thread, before I used it. Oops.
>>288845579>: descarga.jpg
>>288845622>Humanity needs religionNo it doesn’t. Society needs structure not a giant scam used to brainwash, take from, and kill people. The sooner people realize that a book is just a book the better.
>>288845579You used the P-word right as I was typing my post so now my data analysis looks silly, aargh!
>>288845683Yes. No all otaku are pasty white manchildren living in their parents' basement.
>>288825960>I have to wear this wig to know I'm me and not "me">The tulpa comes out to eat ramen with the "real" girls>"Don't go back to streaming, it's bad for your mental health!" "But you and I come from different worlds"My mind is still boggled by the fact that this is the most Omegapilled anime currently airing.
>>288845707It's meant more in a sense that people will always need someone or something to guide them, some higher authority, a greater force, ideals, idols. They need something to believe in in order to move towards it. If people don't believe in anything, they won't get anywhere. I really like how this scene describes it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBnENlXt-H4
>>288845707You need to be 18 to post on this site, kiddo.
This anime is very pretentious to be fair.
>>288832393>Don't get lost in the sauce>IRL support groups are important>Everyone has baggage>Get your bag and then get out
>>288842779Honestly, I don't see how a shoujo fan would make this.
I NEED PORN ART OF NECHIKA-SAMA AND KACHE BUT THERE'S NONE NOT EVEN AI.
What I always find ironic about anime with these kinds of messages is they say "otaku are bad" yet whore out the art/franchise into a million different merchandise. Same goes for Eva, you can't say escapism is bad and then literally sell as much escapism as possible fuck off.
>>288843469The anime isn't that popular but that doesn't mean it's bad, if that were the case marvel would be the greatest cinema to ever exist and the best food would be McDonald's.
what the fuck has been the point of any of this
>>288846570I dunno, I expected something more profound but I guess I won't be getting that.
>>288846570to make you seethe
>>288846146I don't think that was the message of this anime. Rather, it was more about the fact that everybody has their own kind of misery and ways to deal with it, and entertainers act as a sort of lighthouse or lightning rod for the miserable, attracting their joys and sorrows alike. And I'd say this show positions being an otaku as a consequence rather than a cause, given how Karamazovs are shown to be former fans of KAngel.
Kangle is Mr Beast?
>>288843820>>288843899Heed My Plea by Osamu Dazai
In the end it was still 2deep4me.
>>288846968I don't agree with the idea that otaku need to be miserable people seeking joy from fantasy. Seems to be a foreign concept these days to many people but you can indulge in escapism and not be mentally ill.
This is the only anime thread I've seen on /a/ with a high density of original thought. All of the rest are usually filled with contrarian trolls who feel obligated to hate all of the classics.
>>288847590Thinking is hard.
>>288847590You must not be in many /a/nime threads.
>>288844993survivorship bias, only the retards that still watch this dogshit show are posting in this thread.
>>288846146>"otaku are bad" I sincerely don't know how you can say the show thinks that after watching it, but sure, let's suppose that.The writer is stepping out and moving on from the IP because the publisher milked the fuck out of it, wanted him out of the project, and didn't even pay him before a legal battle.It got so bad the team had to explicitly tell fans to not boycott the show when things settled down a bit, before the show aired.
>>288842314My fuarking hero Lollipop diverting history towards the good timeline yet again.
>>288842779>as if streamers can't be sleazebagsHoly fucking whataboutism.
I think I got it. Because Nyalra has lost control of the IP and the anime crew is on his side next episode will go full scorched earth and detail the characters' lives away from the internet into the far future so the rights holders can't make more material with them without contradicting show canon.
The moral of the story is if you're a menhera you just need to get a girlfriend
>>288848334He did mention in a blog post that he wanted to let ame rest. I wouldn't be surprised if he actually pulls that.
>>288843376>The show doesn't portray the profoundly negative impact streamers have on their audiencePeople who are negatively impacted by streamers are subhumans with a skill issue and deserve to be taken advantage of just like the autistic druggie porn addicts I findom in my spare time.
>>288848334The game's good endings were already "Ame or everyone on the planet quits the Internet" anyway. The anime is just detailing what happens in the Internet Runaway Angel ending
>>288848291>Holy fucking whataboutismNTA but streamer are literally the main theme of the show.
>>288843721Ironically these two girls could make a baby.
>>288843869Not even surprising, every artist draws porn in private.
>>288844022>Lollipop dressing up like P to seduce Ame
>>288845986Well you can always request it in the threads for that, I dont wanna dump slop on /a/
>>288845707People are retarded and will always invent religion. Most atheists treat atheism like a religion.
>>288843108Kek, Kache is just hired muscle for Karamazov at this point
>one more episode leftffs just end this shit already. There's no way a single episode can save this embarrassment of an anime.
>>288845645I mean, if this isn't a pretentious anime, then what is a pretentious anime?
>>288843786>it makes me feel like i need to be a more well rounded human being to understandDon't feel bad about yourself, anon. Only mediocre works rely on references to tell their own stories.
>>288848384And? Are you incapable of seeing a character saying something to another character as anything other than the author saying something to you? And even then what does that have to do with what she says? The internet has fried your ability to interact with people if you think that's a worthwhile reply.
>>288848617Pretentious is a word more often than not misused by people who refuse to engage with something intellectually and prefer to skip any discussion with "eh it's just the author sniffing their own farts".Individual scenes or lines can be pretentious sure but I struggle to think of an entire anime I would call "pretentious" top to bottom.
>>288845707You literally couldn't finish reading his post before posting yourself, holy shit.How much are you seething against religion?
>>288848663Ergo Proxy
A disney-tier happy ending would be the cherry on the pile of shit this anime has been.
>>288848663>individual scenes or lines can be pretentiousWhen a large amount of the scenes and lines of a show are pretentious I think it's okay to call it that.
>>288848657>Are you incapable of seeing a character saying something to another character as anything other than the author saying something to you? >And even then what does that have to do with what she says?Are you retarded?Nechika is literally telling her brothers "do what I say, not what I do" which is common hypocrisy.And anon is only pointing that.>The internet has fried your ability to interact with people if you think that's a worthwhile reply.Nigga, it wasn't a deep or complicated moment and you still managed to misunderstand it.
II NEYOKUNAI NEKIMI NI TOTTE HADOKU DA NEII NEYOKUNAI NEWEEBKEKS SHOPPING FOR A ROPE
>>288831718>>288836363>>288836760>>288836779>>288837067We dogisaga now?
>>288848663The absolute number of surface-level references to actual classic works, that are shoved in your face (with the original often also shown, in order to make sure that the viewer knows it is a reference) justifies the label "pretentious". This is because the show tries to parallel it to these classical works, but without actually contributing anything substantial that would make it a valuable work of art.
>>288848663An entire anime can be pretentious if the director had a pretentious attitude while making it like CSM season one.
>>288834945>"Technically" speaking, this show has many, many, many flaws.Worst thing is the shitty CGI.Got the hypest moments totally ruined.
>>288849022>shitty CGII sentence you to watching the entire Godzilla anime trilogy so you learn what bad CGI actually is. The CGI in NGO is (deliberately) visually different from the 2D, but far from bad in terms of visual quality and even further from it in terms of animation. You just don't like the fact that it's different.
>>288848742>Nechika is literally telling her brothers "do what I say, not what I do" which is common hypocrisy.Except that's not what anon said. Anon said "the dyke isn't allowed to tell them to not become group A of bad people because she belongs to group B of people capable of being bad". This is after the characters have repeatedly also acknowledged their own hypocrisy by the way. Stop watching anime while on your phone.
>>288848663But pretentiousness is the shows theme and it knows it. KAngel act like some self-important figure to the "lost" in society but she knows deep inside she's not really saving anyone. Karamizov shoved that even more to her face.
>>288849064Just because there's worse CGI doesn't mean the CGI in this anime is good. And I don't even think it's terrible in every scene, but it is quite disappointing in some of them
>>288849165Name them.>Just because there's worse CGI doesn't mean the CGI in this anime is goodQuality only exists in a relative way.
>>288849096>Except that's not what anon saidHe did, he just reformulated it in a way that triggered you.>This is after the characters have repeatedly also acknowledged their own hypocrisy by the way. And that's exactly why it would be far, far more logical for her to say "dont become streamer", especially after seeing KAngel in the previous episode and the fact that streamers are the main theme of the anime remain.
>>288845265>ackshually you need a very high IQ to understand Needy Girl Overdose™Fuck off, people didn't like it because it was an incoherent mess. And referencing a Dostoevsky[ novel doesn't automatically make it "deep"
>>288844993>everyone loves it nowwdym?
>>288849197Streamer is a female job. She doesn't expect them to transition like she did.
>>288849010Anime art style imitating western cinematography is "pretentious" now ok lolYou people just don't like anything that tries to be different
>>288848979But it is adding something in most cases, namely putting them in a modern internet culture framework rather than the one they were written in.>>288849105The Internet Angel can "save" people. Unfortunately I don't think KAngel is the type of streamer to encourage healthy life choices so I don't think she will have much success with permanent positive influence, but even temporarily being company for someone very lonely is saving them. Also online figures can have indirect positive influence even when they're trying to, I imagine KAngel fans have their own communities and through that meet people like them for instance.
>>288849476It is when you also spend your time shitting on anime and saying Hollywood is better.The director got fired for a reason.
>>288849476>Anime art style imitating western cinematography is "pretentious" That itself isn't pretentious in my opinion, but explicitly mentioning the directors you're trying to imitate definitely is.
>>288849589Did he really say that or are those schizo delusions
>>288849589NTA but that's still not what pretentious means, maybe even quite the opposite.
>>288849537>namely putting them in a modern internet culture frameworkGenuinely curious for some examples.
>>288849537>being company for someone very lonely is saving themYou sound like you're taking Kangel's delusions at face value
>>288849632He did but you'll have to ask the CSM threads for the sources.>>288849638He didn't shit on anime out of humility if that's what you meant, he shat on it because he wished he could make capeshit instead and anime director was the closest job to it in Japan.
>>288849657Literally almost any of the references to past works really? Ame as a Christ-like figure who sacrifices herself for others, the Dazai-Judas relationship of admiration with Lollipop, Karamazov's journey as "siblings".>>288849662I can say vtubers have helped me in moments of crushing loneliness and isolation and have even helped me improve my outlook on life a couple of times, Ame is not deluded for thinking she can help people, she's deluded for thinking she can do that sustainably while being a wreck of a human being herself.
>>288849698>He didn't shit on anime out of humility if that's what you meant, he shat on it because he wished he could make capeshit instead and anime director was the closest job to it in Japan.Yes, and I'm saying that that's still not what being pretentious means.
>>288849698>>288849589Honestly based, the average anime is dogshit and that's not even considering all the slop so garbage it doesn't even make it over here neither through official nor fan subs.
>>288849768The average everything is shit, singling out anime in particular is hypocrisy.And yes, even books.
>>288849792Your point? He wasn't working in the book industry, was he?
>>288849806The film industry is arguably in a much worst state than the anime one, putting on a pedestal one while shitting on the other is pure ignorance, if not pure hypocrisy.
>>288849917But he was putting specific directors on a pedestal and not the whole industry. And he's not wrong in thinking Hollywood is less suffocating towards good stuff than the anime industry.
>>288849713literally all of them are superficial examples. There is no deeper meaning behind them other than "hey this is similar".
>>288849806not really saying this to disagree but he is primarily a writer...? he wrote a script in both cases when it comes to the game and the anime
>>288850082>And he's not wrong in thinking Hollywood is less suffocating towards good stuff than the anime industry.Does it warrant shitting on the very industry he was working for?Especially considering that CSM was his very first project as director?And likewise, the manga industry is actually even better than Hollywood for "the good stuff", why wasnt he praising that ? That's even something in his own country.
>>288850127The fuck do you want man, it's parallels to classic themes and iconic characters reframed in the modern era. I swear people who complain about references to works they probably haven't even read don't actually know what they want at all, you just ask for some vague notion of "deeper" themes without valuing what the story is actually doing.
>>288850129sorry i just realized this exchange isnt about nyalra at all lmao
kangel if she was epic
>>288850127Lollipop's entire character is built around her Judas-Jesus relationship with Ame, how is that "superficial"?
>>288850136>the manga industry is actually even better than Hollywood for "the good stuff"No it fucking isn't lmao. Even the greatest manga out there have fucked pacing because you can never actually be sure you're not getting axed.
>>288850178>>288850162Arguing with retards who can't follow a line of thought. So here it is again for a simpleton like you:>without actually contributing anything substantial that would make it a valuable work of artHow does the anime actually add anything to the original reference? That was the original critique.Your statement was:>putting them in a modern internet culture frameworkThen I ask how, more precisely:>Genuinely curious for some examplesThen examples are given (without elaborating at all)>Ame as a Christ-like figure who sacrifices herself for others, the Dazai-Judas relationship of admiration with Lollipop, Karamazov's journey as "siblings"But then what does this add? There is no added depth to the original work, it's only doing similar things, without expanding on the original themes.Hence:>literally all of them are superficial examples. There is no deeper meaning behind them other than "hey this is similar".You two imbeciles should read a book sometime. That would help you to actually learn to argue, instead of making retarded posts.Now do yourself a favor, use your brain for once instead of getting agitated and immediately typing something out. Maybe for once you can break out of your retardation.
>>288844993You Carl can't Carl relate
>>288850162You don't understand, if the characters don't turn to the camera and deliver a five minutes dissertation on the work they're referencing it's not enough. Just pretend the classics themselves weren't just as "superficial" with their references to previous ones (Dante never actually read Homer and he still put him and Ulysses in Inferno).
>>288848358Don't you find it strange that Nyalra would judge you for the latter, but agree with you about the former?
>>288850350>you need to add to the original work if you want to reference it That's the opposite of how reality works. Kindly kill yourself.
