What are your predictions for next week's chapter?
Berserk ended in 2021.
>>288829720I stopped caring about it after I read past Miura's chapters. It turned turbo gay and looks like a fujo manga now.
>>288829720I predict that you will post the same thread but for next week's chapter.
>>288829720A bad chapter
I predict that we get another artsy chapter similar to 384, that will focus more on building up a dichotomy between Guts and Griffith.
>>288829720maybe 2 dialogue bubbles
>>288829720>guts exits stupa>he’s super cool and chill now>has control over his negative emotions and can wield them without them overpowering him>kushan “the time has come” set out to gather allies to fight Griffith >guts knows that fighting Griffith won’t work but goes along with it anyway >guts and crew leave the main Kushan group along with silat and rickert and set out somewhere >next major encounter will be with a detachment of griffith’s demon forces
next week chapter will not be focused on Guts, giving Studio GAGA more time to contact Miura's ghost via Ouija.
>>288835342>>guts exits stupaThat is too early, I think. We have another chapter soon anyway, so I assume this set of three chapters will entirely focus on Guts' inner workings, and he will exit the grave at the end of the third chapter.
am i the only anon that thinks berserk sex scenes are so fucking hot what the fuck is it? I get better faps from these than fucking any hentai
>>288836674even the Donovan one?
>>288836694eh.... not that one
>>288834441It should have turned into a my little pony makeup horror as it goes on
>re-reading golden age since I got the deluxe book>feeling so fucking bad for griffith even when he sacrifices everyone and r words cascaI remember reading the first time and thought it was meanspirited the way he did that to guts and casca but I get it now. The whole self hatred, regret and the embarrassment or shame he got from being pity'd is enough to drive someone to do something like that. I don't get why people don't even try to understand why griffith is the way he is. he's insanely nuanced but people just go to NOOOO GRIFFITH BAD HE PRESSED THE RED BUTTON REEEEEEEEE HE SHOULDVE PRESSED BLUE
>>288838841>I don't get why people don't even try to understand why griffith is the way he is.People do that though.
>>288838841Griffith is a soulless whore to be honest. If he was a female character maybe more would simp and call him "complex," but instead he just gets to be seen as a narcissistic fag.
There's nowhere else to post this so I apologize in advance, but last night I unironically had a dream where I fucked Griffith's bussy, and I nutted deep in his rectum. I've been into futa before but I never had an actual gay thought, I'm scared my brain is now craving femboys, I don't wanna be a faggot.>>288829720I think we're having something similar to Casca's recovery, and Guts will confront the dog for sure, maybe "tame" him. The art has been really good, looked wonky in the first Studio Gaga chapters but I think they finally got there.
More retcons
>>288839089wrong>>288839075idk reddit seems to really just REEE HES EVIL EVILLL EVIL EVIL EVILE VILEV IL
It will be a chapter full of Guts twitching and grunting and walking outta the stupa. Next chapter will move the plot onward just a little bit, and then we wait Godhand knows how many months for the next chapter.
>>288839089The very scene your image is from is about him having a soul underneath his invincible, cool-headed and pragmatic facade. He is as rage-filled and spiteful as Guts (as a man), but channels all of his rage inward on himself whereas Guts uses it to make others suffer.
>>288840089Reddit is full of faggots who are conditioned by the site to thought-terminate if it gets their post censored by downvotes. Anything having to do with Griffith or something sexual in nature is not something they are allowed to discuss, except for fully condemning a fictional character and putting him on trial like he actually exists or making gay sex fantasies about him and Guts or any other male duo for that matter.
>>288829720I've only just gotten into Berserk and caught up all the way to the latest chapter. Is it safe to say that a lot of problems with the more recent issues stem from the fact that although the story and plot have significantly changed up, the process or beats of it haven't? It feels like the story went from:>There is a problem>Guts swings his sword>Problem solvedto<Filler>There is a problem<Filler>Guts swings his sword<Filler>Problem solvedOther than the Witch, the rest of the party exists to just keep the adds off of Guts while he tanks whatever the main problem is, Serpico, Farnese and Isidro spend a LONG time not doing anything of real importanceDid anyone care about the jeet war arc? There was zero tension because you can tell the jeet emperor was going to get washed since his side was just fodder with nothing interesting while Griffith had an entire army of apostles. Even when the emperor had a chance to fight them at the port, he killed like...1 or 2 of them and barely hurt anyone else.The entire boat arc was like that as well, Cthulhu just ended up being another notch on Guts blade and the party got a mermaid, and then the magic island was un-magicked at the end and even the resident mermaid was disappeared. It's at that moment I realised that the entire arc had been a pointless waste of time. If you had cut the entire boat journey and the mermaids out, and just had the crew go to Jeet-land, almost nothing changes because you can still do Rickert ending up with Daiba and Silat in a flashback chapter.>>288836674It's the passion and the emotional fulfilment, a lot of hentai is just sloppy noises, moaning, shouting screaming and gargling. It's all very hollow, there's very little feeling in any of it.With Berserk though, the vanilla tends to be very passionate even if we don't see that much of it, and even the rape shows a level of fear and terror totally absent in regular rape hentai. That's what makes it so fappable.
>>288843867>>288843968>channels all of his rage inward on himself whereas Guts uses it to make others suffer.You are a faggot blinded by Griffith's bussy and deliberately misreading the story because of it. Normal people don't do this because normal people aren't gay.
>>288838841>GRIFFITH BAD HE PRESSED THE RED BUTTON REEEEEEEEE HE SHOULDVE PRESSED BLUEYes.
>>288829720Hopefully a continuation of his internal journey and some kind of resolution
>>288844861>Did anyone care about the jeet war arc?Yes, me. Tension isn't all about what will happen, but how it will happen.
>>288839089I don't see him as particularly complex. He's only ever wavered by Guts who manages to emasculate him.Apart from that he really has no issue using anyone to further his goals with no remorse.Ironically if Guts didn't shake him up to his core by rising to be his equal, there'd be no complexity to him whatsoever.The Band of Hawk were just expendables to him. He didn't despise them or anything, and he'd prefer to keep them alive, but if he had to sell them out in order to further his dream, he'd do it in a heartbeat.
People still read the fanfic?
>>288844861>Is it safe to say that a lot of problems with the more recent issues stem from the fact that although the story and plot have significantly changed up, the process or beats of it haven't?I wouldn't say that, although I think you're getting close to the problem with post-golden age Berserk. I've liked every arc (the boat arc the least), I think the problem is that these are all glorified side quests and while Miura does a good job of tying them to the main quest (new party members, important items, new lore), the goal of getting to Elfhelm didn't change for some insane amount of time like 30 volumes. It's like when a game jerks you around (Oops! Looks like the bridge to Plot Town is out, you gotta get the bridge glue from Other Side of the World Town first. Oops! Looks like we're out of bridge glue, you gotta travel to Glue Plant Island now...)>then the magic island was un-magicked at the end and even the resident mermaid was disappeared. It's at that moment I realised that the entire arc had been a pointless waste of time.Not canon. They finally cured Casca which is the first real plot progression in a long time, and Miura would've done a lot more with the island than just rip the place up and randomly disappear everyone.
>>288838841>r wordsYou have to go back.
>>288835342Guts can't immediately go charging headlong into the final arc because he's almost completely disabled from what the berserker armor has done to him. He's been totally fucked by it stabbing into his bones and causing him to go way beyond his physical limits, the resulting damage having barely been patched up continuously by fairy dust. But just making him 'whole' again to be abused by the armor doesn't sit right, he would still be on the skull knight path which even he recognizes as a hellish existence 'stalking the endless night'The parallels with Griffith in the previous chapter are for a specific reason. Griffith became a 100% astral being that had to go through loops to incarnate and resume his dream. Griffith created the blast of the astral world which has created a loophole for Guts in turn. Rather than incarnating, Guts merely has to take on his own astral form that can be glimpsed by Schierke but up until now has been something Guts kept at arms's reach in fear of losing control to it.
>>288847760>and Miura would've done a lot more with the island than just rip the place up and randomly disappear everyone.How do you think it would have played out with Griffith on the island
The ending they're working towards has so many moving parts>We know the IoE is fueled by negative emotions and humanity looking for a reason bad things happen>Astral World has resulted in untold misery with Falconia now the only bastion of peace>But also Griffith is funneling dead souls in to the vortex>Large population density in Falconia>Silat is able to communicate en masse using Daiba>Silat now has control of the Kushan army>The Kushan army now has the magic users as slave soldiers but they're depowered due to Elfhelm and the spirit trees being destroyed>Only Schrieke and Farnese seem to have retained their full power>Rickert has managed to strike Griffith after giving a speech acknowledging that Griffith is different to how he used to be>Guts doesn't believe his sword can make contact with Griffith, but we seen it cut a hair despite him holding back, and he still seems to approach Griffith as the one that betrayed the Hawks instead of post Eclipse Griffith >Schierke is in Falconia in astral form>Pandemonium is right behind Falconia>Fantasia has shown that the Godhand and Skull Knight can manifest at will >Fantasia has shown that the Godhand can manifest Qlipoth anywhere and can bring back dead apostles>Guts is now confirmed to at least partly have a proper astral form like Farnese and Schierke as opposed to just his consciousness when he's using the Berserker Armor >Casca is at least partly aware of her captivity and can snap out of it from time to time>Zodd is compelled to follow Griffith's orders but isn't seen to be happy about it>The Guts/Griffith parallels to Golden Age have been coming in thick and fast in the last couple of volumesI genuinely don't know what the ending is at this point
>>288848210Yeah there's a lot of threads remaining especially in regards to Falconia but really what must absolutely occur before the ending is that the vortex of souls/hell is done away with somehow. Everything else in the narrative needs to service this or else Guts and all the rest are getting eternal damnation no matter what victory they achieve, whether that entails destroying Femto's incarnated body and taking over his dream castle from him or whatever. I kinda of see more characters betting on Guts as the wildcard and willingly sacrificing themselves for his chance at actually achieving something meaningful, which is basically impossible in this universe. Endgame: Griffith getting so many setbacks that when Guts stands against him at the end his emotions get the better of him and he sends him directly to hell where he can do the most damage to the cosmic order of things with the resources invested in him.
>>288848210Also the Behelit
I predict that I won't be reading it.
>>288848582Oh you'll read it.
>>288848582You don't even have free will you will hateread everything until the end like a dutiful slave of fate.
>>288848582You say that and yet I guarantee you're following every new chapter, like the rest of the SK cultists
>>288848210What surprises me is that, given how iconic the Berserker Armor is, Guts actually doesn't have much control of it. I vaguely recall him having a grip, but I was wrong: he hasn't really got a chance to.
>>288848869The best that can be said of the berserker armor is that it's done its job up to and including the Sea God. It was never the absolute ideal situation as we saw its limits via Guts' decline and also via skull knight's memory where he got power-cliffed really hard. The ideal situation would be for Schierke to be free to use her crazy magic and Guts to be strong enough to cover her without the astral stuff getting in the way. They've been doing the opposite out of sheer necessity.
>>288829720So let me tell you exactly what's gonna happen.>Guts goes on vision quest/hallucination while sealed in.>The Evil Dog or whatever it's name is appears before him and is all "We're not so different you and I/You can only get revenge on Griffith by killing your friends/lol be evil it's fun".>Guts goes all "NOOOOO!!!">something something the darkness is lit up by the lights of the spirits of his friends both living and dead something something.>Evil Dog says "NANI!?" and is banished.>Guts achieves Super Berserk God Super Berserk Ultra Instinct.>Guts exits cave and tell everyone "Truly I have become Berserk™">The cast declares it's time to fight the final battle with the God Hand and all pose together in a full page spread.Source: Miura's ghost told me.
>>288829720Nothing
>>288848869On Elfhelm he seems to repress it from taking over, and with Schierke helping him he goes in to that Batman looking mode, so there's some kind of control. It was always meant to be a way to further break down Guts body and it's served that narrative purpose.>>288848989The other thing to consider is his body is that wrecked after using it like 4 times - and he's only had it in the manga timeline for like 4 months. The next time he uses it could very well be what leaves him blind.
>>288848869The armour itself has the added benefit of allowing him to function without it being fully activated. When he snapped out of it after the battle with Grunbeld, he was still able to walk around normally. It wasn't until Schierke and the others got the armour off him that the pain hit. Dude needs to rest up. When he took the armour off to rest up before going to Vritanis he had lost a shit load of muscle mass, it's wrecking his body
>>288829720I don't read fanfics
>>288849226See>>288848637>>288848589>>288848627
>>288849192Yeah for those reasons the narrative has been hammering that Guts' time with the berserker armor is coming at an end. It's a dead end road and simply not a tenable option for him anymore. All his senses are damaged, he can't aim well, he becomes dedridden after a battle, his hands shake, the armor becomes more of a crutch to keep him standing than augmenting his natural strength, which is actually waning with his musculature. Whatever astral entities he encounters in the stupa are going to provide the offramp for him because he really will wear the armor until it kills him if he isn't provided other options. And sympathetic daimons like Flora have a vested interested in not letting Guts die out that way.
>>288849232You and the rest of the Moritroons don't even understand that we don't read the shit, because there's barely any dialogue anyway, we just look at the shitty art and laugh.
>>288849967Skullknightards (all 5 of you) are OBSESSED with a continuation you do not recognize and have to astroturf other sites because you are desperate for the wider fandom to agree with your derangement (they don't, and just want to find out how Berserk ends)
>>288850184>PLEASE like whatever the Reddit/Xitter/Tiktok majority likes or you're the same personOk schizo>find out how Berserk ends)There is no Berserk without Miura>fandomI don't interact with the Berserk "fandom," outside 4chan at least, you Tiktok/Reddit addicted zoomer freak who uses "fandom" as a replacement for a social life
>>288829720We visit Griffith who takes Casca to the Idea of Evil whom we know learn is an alien and needs to reincarnate in a baby of Casca and Griffith to take over the material world forever.
>>288850573Purists should simply not be engaging with spaces discussing the continuation, for your own mental health. You'll get mad that everyone else gets an ending and you don't.
>>288829749so absolutely nothing changed?
>>288850184>>288850603In 15 years you'll be lucky to get a GoT-tier "closure" you've craved so much and will pretend to like it just to own "puristchuds". By that time the majority of plebbitors and xittter zoomers who speedread the manga for the first time during covid and to whose shit tastes you appeal to will completely lose any interest
>>288850875We might like or dislike it, feel free to fuck off for 15 years in the meantime instead of sour grapes posting every time there's a chapter.
>>288850958>WeTourist spotted. If you are so unaccustomed to diverging opinions feel free to fuck off to whatever echochamber you've crawled from
>>288850603I'm not "mad" about the continuation, I think it's hilariously bad and will continue making fun of it just like anyone else with a sense of discernment
>>288848210Guts struggles so hard and finally manage to shake Griffith will with schierke's help as he knew Griffith's demon name. Griffith decide to sacrifice himself and bring all the of the godhand and apostles with him to hell after he realizes what he has done to the world and how he is actually a pawn of the IoE. A new empire found in his honour, his son from princess Charlotte's become the first emperor of great Griffonia, which later become the largest and most prosperous empire on earth, in a way Griffith achieved his dream. Guts retire with casca and live the life that Griffith saw for a moment before the eclipse. A shot of the tree which gut's mother was hanged appears as the final page, showing that it has turned into a beautiful tree surrounded by green grass and butterflies. The end, in memory of Kentarou Miura
>>288851208I'm a 2008 newfag you caught me.
>>288847710WRONGLITERALLY WRONG THIS IS WHAT IM TALKING ABOUT YOU FUCKERS CANT READ IF BAND OF THE HAWKS WASNT IMPORTANT TO HIM AND EXPENDABLES THEN HE WOULDNT BE SCREAMING AT THE CORPSES HE WOULDNT BE RAPING CASCA YOU DUMB FUCKHOLY SHIT I HATE BERSERK FANBASE ACTUAL DUNGING KRUGER RETARDS
I heard the early translations are apparently shit? If that's so, where do I start reading the manga from the beginning with good translations?
>>288836674I think they’re really well executed for what it’s worth - though it makes me tear up when Guts gets all sad and depressed like with Casca
>>288851726Doesn't really make sense given Griffith doesn't really have emotions anymore. There is no "realising what he's done" unless he's stripped of his Godhand astral form
>>288849967Bro you're going to keep reading and bitching so why not sit the fuck down and discuss it properly instead of posting shit like "Berserk ended in 2021" when your little astroturfing meme has gained absolutely no traction. The community is still here, engage with it or go back to your Skull Knightcel circlejerk and suck off the mods there
Mori has drawn Puck and Griffith better than Miura has for the last 70 chapters of his run
>>288852107His primary motivator is his dream so even if he cares about The Band, it’s not like that manifests in any way - despite his repressed self hatred for his actions / being whore for his ambition. By the time he goes full Femto, those repressed emotions are all but eliminated. Really, if he’d just gone out and called Guts his friend instead of monologuing about it and bascially describing Guts to Charlotte, many things could be avoided I like Griffith a lot tho
>>288852281The Dark Horse scans and translations are probably the best. Get scans of the small volume 1-3 (I think they're on read berserk online) and look for scans of the deluxe volumes for the rest. Deluxe 1 has really poor and blurry upscaling for some reason, and the art is all smudgy
>>288852521I can smell the Indian tiktoker from here wafting off you
>>288852550One of the few good things he has done, Griffith looks like an actual man again instead rapeable bimbo from late adult comedy 1940's cartoon.
>>288852573Does the Dark Horse scans do all of them, as in the entire manga? Or do I have to search around if they're done by different people? Thanks.
>>288852609>rapeable bimbo from late adult comedy 1940's cartoonbut that's word for word what griffith asked the idea of evil for
>>288852661They did the whole manga yea
>>288852805Thanks, that'll make it easy to find.
>>288852661>Dark Horse scansDark Horse is a publisher though.
>>288852572DONT MOVE THE GOALPOST NOW YOU SAID EXACTLY WHAT THE FUCKERS FROM REDDIT SAY>Apart from that he really has no issue using anyone to further his goals with no remorse.
>>288847710>>288852572He absolutely cares about the Band of the Hawk. We know you can only sacrifice the most important thing in the world to the Behelith. Hence why the Slug Count was asked to sacrifice his daughter and could not sacrifice Guts, and why the Egg Apostle was asked to sacrifice his collection of garbage since he had nothing else.That said, it is true that in the entire story, Griffith only shows internal conflict during his dream before the Eclipse and the Eclipse itself.
>>288853964The most important to him really was Guts. That's why, even after becoming God Hand and being reborn, he needs to confront Guts personally in order to be sure that he's "free" of him.The rest were there to serve his cause and die if need be in order to help him accomplish his dream.
>>288852550I'm not sure Miura even drew Puck in the last 70 chapters. Just a chestnut
>>288852107Griffith wasn't raping Casca because of Band of the Hawks.
>>288849102Real
>>288854453WRONG AGAINNNNNNN>>288854662yeah because it was a whole mix over being pity'd, anger of guts leaving, anger of casca having mixed feelings for guts and him, jealousy, regret, anger, etc.
>>288856018it was about re-establishing his manhood in front of guts, that's all. he doesn't even look at casca. just guts.it's literally spelled out in the manga yet you're going crazy with headcanon.only guts was ever considered important enough by griffith to cause him to lose sight of his dream.the band of hawks were simply there to help him achieve, by any means necessary. he'd sacrifice them a thousand times over
When you read actual descriptions of her, you realize that she is the most accurate Joan of Arc-inspired character in animanga...
>>288856274NO WRONG
>>288853694Sorry should’ve said “NTA” since i was the same person you were discussing. Is your point that he’s sadder than people think or what? Because clearly Griffith ends up being ok with ridding himself of all his attachments and ascending to becoming Femto in the end. Sure he’s complex, but even if he wasn’t, the outcome would be the same. He might cry in the river about being a gay prostitute or weep seeing the pile of bodies he’s amassed, but that doesn’t stop him and it doesn’t help him let go of Guts any easier.I tear up whenever I watch / read through the golden age, in large part sympathetically to Griffith but let’s be real>>288853964Him sacrificing them with a behelit is actually a great point. Shows he DOES care about them… just that he’s overall self-serving. I feel like he wouldn’t be making the new Band of the Hawk if he didn’t have any connection to them.
>>288857873Stop being autistic. You care so much about what the peoples from reddit think because you are reddit and newfag. To everyone who read Berserk before covid, Griffith being "complex" is not exactly new news and it doesn't contradict hating him
>>288829720Literally this.
>>288857648I mean they did attempt to burn her alive.
>>288847710Griffith is is just Ryo from Devilman, who in turn is just a male yandere. Japanese people cannot write characters outside of narrowly defined cliches and archetypes that were established in the 1970s. Griffith wants to destroy Guts but also wants Guts to destroy his ass, but he can't admit that to himself because of his Japanese ego. It's really that shrimple. Griffith seems complex to the Mexicans, Brazilians, and other third worlders who deny that Griffith is a closeted and in denial homosexual because the idea that a man could be crushing on their self insert character is unconscionable to them. None of this matters because Mori has made the Guys v. Griffith rivalry even more stupid. He has turned Berserk into Naruto.
what's with faggots screaming about the anime? the music, voice acting, battles are peak. people just hating for the sake of hating IVE WAITED SO LONGGGG IVE WAITEDDDD
This gay nonsense they’re teaching. I am sorry, but Berserk is not a homosexual book!
>>288860128they need their grasses
Any of you watched Flesh + Blood? I've seen it recently (cool film) and it's crazy how much of Berserk is in there.
>>288860236just a little bit
>>288860128I haven't seen people here hate it; it's regarded as the best introduction to Berserk
>>288860629bro the last thread had people seething about REEEE IT CUT TOO MUCH STUFF REEEEEE NO WYALD??? REEEE BARELY ANY ANIMATION??? s2fg berserk fanbase is the absolute worse.
>>288860822that shit takes up SO much of the golden age it’s retarded. Maybe some important Griffisu moments. Good thing they cut it out. People complaining are retarded
>>288860629clumsy girl
>>288861138And yet she always somehow wins
>>288844861The fights are good but this is not a fighting manga. If you go into it reading it like a shonen you'll miss 90% of the content.
>>288861500it was nice to see her cutting up some knights like back in the good old days, even if it was brief.she'd probably need some kind of magic weapon though to handle herself against demons
>>288860236>>288860347The gayest part of Berserk is not the male prostitution, gay rape, communal male nudity, "I want you", "are you a homo", all the phallic imagery etc.. The gayest scene in Berserk is Griffith fucking the most desirable gash on planet Berserk and then thinking of how much he misses his big beefy commander.
>>288864867ngl that charlotte in the manga made me diamond. fuck the sex scenes in this manga are so good.
>>288829720Guts merges with the beast of darrkness and starts spinning around really rapidly, creating a rift in time and he spins through the rift to Falconia and lops Griffith's head off finishing the manga quickly.
>>288829749>. It turned turbo gay and looks like a fujo manga now.Muira dying of loli-addiction is what saved Berserk from being a Magical Girl adventure guest starring Guts.
>>288860339I'll check it out, I am rarely disappointed by 80s films.
>>288852606Irony from a SKtard
>>288864934Just as Miura envisioned.
>>288865210Nobody here uses that forum but you. You're still obsessed and completely seething that that mod BTFO Mori's fanfic.
>>288861500I forgot how good the animation was
What should I think about the newest chapter, strugglers? SK.net says it's a contradictory shit, but Pleddit loves it and says it's genius.
>>288865051Looks like one of those yaoi shojoshit.
Why these two things: picrel and disliking post-Miura chapters, make Berksissies screech like autists so much? Especially on popular websites?
>>288866915Beat your meat to Miura's shit like this sissy https://www.skullknight.net/forum/index.php?threads/the-perspective-of-a-long-time-berserk-reader-and-fan.16775/
>>288867088Why are you so autistically obsessed with that forum you are literally linking to its threads to gossip about it and its members instead of Berserk like some kind of butthurt discord pussy? NYPA, Fuck off with your parasocial fandom vendetta faggotry.
>>288861138She has always been a good proof that women do not fit into the world of martial shit in Berserk.
>>288867134I didn't even post anything about that site before, retard. Are you a schizo thinking that there is only you and only one more Anon present in this thread? Also, you don't use NYPA in that manner, newfag.
>>288867134>raging as if that link thread was made by him
>>288857648>popular female warrior>OMG MAIDEN JOANBerkfags are illiterate.
>>288867183>>288867202If you want to talk about Skullknight then go on there and talk to people on that forum about it, pussy. This is 4chan and no one gives a fuck about your whiny vendetta bullshit.
>>288844861>I've only just gotten into Berserk and caught up all the way to the latest chapter.Same. I think I enjoyed it the most until the fake Eclipse. Farnese and Serpico were really interesting characters then, but after...It's still entertaining, but nothing like it once was.
>>288867660What if I want to stay here, schizo? Are you the guy who made that thread? If yes, then sorry for posting it as an example of Berksissies.
>>288844861>>288867779Truth to be told, and you will never hear ot from "muh first manga literal masterpiece of all time" Berkfags - Berserk has been going downhill since Griffith's return. There was a light in the tunnel around the Vritannis shit, but later we received s decade of the Boat arc, chestnut Puck jokes about Star Wars, and lolishit with shojo atmosphere. People who complain about nu-Berserk are retarded in how they can't notice that this series has been shot long before Miura died.
>>288868423>Berserk has been going downhill since Griffith's return.Something else that disappointed me. I don't get why Griffith had to return. It kinda cheaped the whole Godhand and Femto thing.>People who complain about nu-BerserkIn a way, the non-Miura developments are progressing better and more quickly. Something finally happened to Guts, and they got off the elf island. Though I'm not a fan of Casca being kidnapped and being a damsel again.
>>288867041>Berserk isn't Berserk without Miura>disliking post-Miura chaptersSo which is it? If it's not legitimate then there is nothing to dislike because it's not Berserk.
>>288839089He was just very gay for Gatsu and got upset when his boytoy showed ambition and a will of his own.
>>288868511>Something else that disappointed me. I don't get why Griffith had to return. It kinda cheaped the whole Godhand and Femto thing.It felt awkward when I read it for the first time many years ago, but the build-up was okay enough to accept it as something natural. Fantasia, however, was both weird from the background's point of view and narration-wise aspects. It was as if Miura ran out of ideas and kept on doing crazier and crazier stuff to the story, including crazy power-ups like the berserker armor. They were no different to "power creep slasher" type of story that Berserk has ceased to be after the Black Swordsman arc.>In a way, the non-Miura developments are progressing better and more quickly. Something finally happened to Guts, and they got off the elf island.Yes and no. I like the fact that he story is moving forward, however, those new chapters are released so slowly (Studio Gaga are Miura's apprentices, after all, kekw) that this progression is disturbed. One chapter with characters walking most of the time isn't bad, but it becomes awful when you realize that the next chapter will be released Godhand knows when, and it may have similar content.From positive shit, I like how nu-Berserk returned to darker, grittier atmosphere. I can swallow discrepancies here and there if it means that we won't see crappy jokes thrown around on random occasions.>Though I'm not a fan of Casca being kidnapped and being a damsel again.Same here. It reminds me of how I've spent years tracking Berserk and watching retarded Casca almost getting raped. It's lazy and uninspiring. Just after her brain was brought back, she had to disappear and turn into a damsel in distress anew.
>>288868511Griffith had to return because it was a nice callback cliffhanger and Miura obviously had nothing planned beyond it. That chapter sat unreleased for a long time. It was never going to work as an actual plot point
>>288868726Schrödinger's Berkfag. A fan of Berserk who loves Miura and doesn't consider post-Miura story "canon", but seethes over it and calls ot "Berserk".
>>288867265I was talking about Joan's physical appearance only, obviously. Casca is more based than that Christcuck who got killed for worshipping the Antichrist and never even fought in war.
>>288868793I also think that he ran out of ideas at that point, but he didn't want to wrap up the story back then either.
>>288868511Also I would like to say it really bothers me that Farnese asked Serpico to burn his mother to prove he wasn't a heretic, but then she becomes one herself later and they never discuss that. It feels like something that should be discussed.
>>288868828Plot convenience. One of many from Berserk. I like this manga a lot, but if you look at it totally unbiased, then its plot looks more like a decent shounen's rather than "muh masterpiece seinen".
>>288868369>>288868423>>288868804Why are you talking to yourself, illiterate Mori shill? Did this website not having an upvote function mindbreak you?
>>288868785Yeah I don't get why it needs to be so slow. It's not Miura anymore so just get into a room and decide what to write. For good or bad, a room of people is bound to find something to write.
>>288868785Also, I hope nu-Berserk will break up that gigantic D&D party that was forming for no reason. The mermaid disappearing was a good sign. Next we need to get rid of Rickard, Manifico, Isidro, and possibly Serpico.
>>288868863>discusses Berserk as a whole>"Mori shill"Apart from your yapping like a thirsty alcoholic (why the fuck are you implying that I wrote all three of those posts?), let me ask you this: who are the people who weren't content with Schierke, Boat arc, or Elf Island? And they weren't fans of these things back when Miura was alive? I hope you remember those times, unless you started reading Berserk during the Covid era.
>>288853082I meant like has someone done all of the translations, and not multiple people, so it's easier to find.
>>288868893Some say it's because of art being hard to emulate (retarded argument; Miura was a perfectionist on almost autistic level, but you there are manga authors who can draw beautiful art without spending weeks on several pages), same blame the publisher (I read that even after chapter is done, they wait with publishing it in the magazine, but I don't know if it's true). No matter the reason, I don't see why there is not even a stable release schedule. I don't expect weekly chapters, but even bi-monthly release would be better than waiting a mysterious amount of time for a new chapter.>>288868921It had potential, but Miura didn't handle it well. They become a typical, average DnD party for real, and Guts turned into "daddy, the party leader". I wouldn't get rid of them though, because those characters are alright if you look at them separately. Instead, I'd prefer to have them appear in the story as they have been appearing in the post-Miura Berserk. Not as a stereotypical party, but as individuals.
>>288869006Problem is that they stopped developing after a certain point. Serpico is still the same person as he was after the fake eclipse, nothing developed for him, Farnese turned to witchcraft without much conflict either (for someone who orgasmed burning people on stakes), Rickard has been around for ten years and nothing, same for the little girl. What has Isidro really learned about being a warrior? I won't even mention the rest which are just comedic relief. I'd just resolve a lot of these characters really and get on with the story. Did we really need Isidro? Is anyone invested in his plotline? What about Serpico? He's basically hanging out, not even Farnese needs him anymore. Rickard might end up marrying Farnese, but does he even have a place anymore after the boat arc? Still, I fear the way the story is progressing, they'll stick around. After all, the logical conclusion to this is for Guts and the rest to storm Falconia.
If Berserk was "continued" by a random unnamed team of people, would Morifags read it because it's technically still part of the same IP? Or do they read the Sloptinuation specifically because it's Mori, predicated on nonexistent "Miura notes" and a dubious former friendship? Are characters tulpas that anyone can is capable of writing by slapping the official label on it or are they products of an intentioned author? And if the official status isn't what matters, why not discuss other Berserk fanfics? Is this simply discussion of a widely-known fanfiction?
THIS is why they're so defensive?!
I miss Tardsca
>>288868511>I don't get why Griffith had to return.Then you don't really get the story. It's like the most basic plot point laid out right in front of you, over and over and over.The man wanted a kingdom. The God Hand also made it clear that he's destined to change the nature of the world.
>>288871143Sovl desu. I can't decide, I love both. Part of me likes the idea that she stays amnesiac + psychotic + age regressed forever. That's how I thought it would be before her mind was restored. But then the mind restoring chapters completely blew me away. But I'm still fond of my original headcanon.
>>288871510The thing I was most afraid of was Berserk ending up with some corny cliche happy ending, which is what I'm pretty sure will happen with the Continuation. But it's ok because we already got Miura's ending whether he intended that to be the ending or not. It was bittersweet and unique and perfect.
>>288871510Potato Casca sucked honestly. There was zero progress on that front, outside of that one scene where she killed some rapist thugs.Huge relief when she finally became herself again... Only for Miura to immediately pass away
>>288829720Two chapters of the dudes out side the stupa, one half and half with them and Guts ending with the doors opening, then eight to fourteen months until the next chapter.
>>288871552I enjoyed Tatersca in Conviction and in the video game adaptations a lot but yeah, pretty much once Farnese joined the band she just became an object for Farnese to save, and not even in an interesting way either. But that's because Farnese's development ultimately means nothing and plus she never new Casca before. When Guts saves Casca it means a lot and he stopped doing that after Conviction all the way until the SG arc. When Casca saves herself it's even better. Which is why I could jump from the end of the Conviction to the Sea God arc and not miss much from an emotional standpoint.Ultimately, I love Potato Casca because she represents loss. And angst is something that I expect from a story like Berserk. It's appropriate for it to have. When the story turns into dumb gags and infantile bubble-blowing, that's when it's stupid.(Sorry if you saw the huge typo on the other thing I posted, I'm tired and drunk)
>>288871751There's a point where it's better for the character to just be dead than endlessly be dragged around as a potato though.Since she was barely sentient, there was really no room for development.Miura perhaps made a mistake in making her act too potato instead of just making her amnesiac, immature and unstable, but still a person that can be communicated with. This could've led to some interesting moments with Guts as he has to deal with the idea of two different Cascas.
>>288871826Yeah I agree. I much prefer Conviction potato over the potato she became. The fact that she's mute is very important too though. But a Casca that's able to communicate without words, who is competent with a sword but has no ability to rationalize why or know when she'll take advantage of that, doesn't remember her past self but does remember who she's been since the Eclipse, and doesn't hate Guts for an irrationally long time but is merely wary of him and is at times capable of trusting him, who has an innate wisdom and capability about her in her sheer feralness is and has always been interesting to me.
>>288871881She could've still been a mute yes, or well, more like a feral who communicates with hisses and shrieks rather than words. It would give the current Casca something to fall back onto, this feral state, when she's in trouble. But instead she was mainly a helpless potato, so there's really no room for Elaine to exist anymore in any capacity.
