Has there ever been a manga that changed genres midway through in an almost whiplash manner?
>>288849999Otokojuku when it switched from being a light hearted sitcom about delinquents into the "we have hokuto no ken at home" at the four trials of terror episode
>>288849999Yes
>>288849999This happened with Negima right?
>>288849999Reborn. Volume 10 went from comedy to full action, author even had to explain it in that volume.
>>288849999Yu Yu Hakusho went from a comfy spirit detective episodic seires to a bland and boring fighting tournament
The climbing one
>>288849999Fr*eren
>>288850193and yet you dont have people wishing for that section of the story to come back.
>>288849999Higanjima. From a simple and effective horror manga featuring vampires that are not easy to kill with a sense of survival of being trapped on an island infested with vampires->to literal action pack, katanawank, and physiques logic are thrown out of the window.I still love it though.
>>288850279I don't see how that's any relevant to the discussion other than you being butthurt
>>288850193I'm convinced that no tournament arc has ever happened organically and have always been foisted onto mangakas. I remember something about the publisher wanting JoJo to have a tournament arc and Araki refusing.
Dragonball went from a fun kung fu flick esque comedy to the allegorical descriptions of the planets in the heavens
>>288849999Apparently Ruri Dragon may enter battle shonen territory.
>>288850279I quite liked that section of the story. What came instead was also good, so I'm not terribly upset about it, but I would have enjoyed more of that.
>>288849999Yugioh. Pretty upset about that one desu. I really liked it before the card game shit took over.
Yu-Gi-Oh was initially veeeery different in tone from what it turned out to be, and very abruptly regeared to being entirely about cards because of merchandising
>>288850342Manga so slow people have been saying this since before the anime was announced.
There was this short lived masterpiece called Gal Cleaning...
>>288850279I don't see that being a major issue. All that >>288850193 said is that tournament arcs aren't his cup of tea (albeit sure, not wanting to understand what makes the tournament arc good but instead passively calling it bland without processing can be annoying). You have to accept that anyone has different levels of adaptability. If a series wants to change or try a different genre, good on you that you are willing to adapt to it and understand why there's a change and how it goes.Just don't take anyone who refuses to adapt seriously.
>>288850279>and yet you dont have people wishing for that section of the story to come back.people disliking the second half of yyh is very well documented
>>288850324The biggest whiplash was Radditz showing up and shifting it from fantasy to sci-fi, but the tone had already shifted away from comedy-adventure back with King Piccolo, arguably earlier with Mercenary Tao.
>>288849999Rosario + vampire.It was good though.
>>288850727Literally my first thought.
I would say Dragon Ball. It went from an adventure series based on Journey to the West to th martial arts with lasers show that we all know now.
>>288849999Medaka Box
didnt Nougami Neuro also become a battle manga midway through when it was them solving murder mysteries or am I misremembering
>>288850787I have never considered Dragon Ball and Dragon Ball Z to be the same manga, and I don't know why anyone does.
Jujutsu Kaisen went from Ghostbusters to Dragonball Z. I guess you could say the same for Bleach
>>288850845Because the manga never stopped being Dragon Ball. The distinction in Japan was only for the anime, the manga was just Dragon Ball from chapter 1 straight until Buu reincarnates. Pretty sure he didn't even miss a week between the defeat of Piccolo Jr and the first chapter of Raditz's arrival, it just kept going 100% uninterrupted.
GaworareStarted off as cute harem hijinks before descending into psychological insanity
>>288849999Dragon Maid. Comfy comedy SOL to drama and fighting back to comfy SOL. I liked it though. Sometimes dramatic or traumatic events happen and you just have to deal with them and move on, makes the day to day stuff feel more real and relatable.
>>288849999>>288850895It seems to happen in series where the general plotline is "the bad guy was actually just a minion of the real bad guy" repeated few times over. Naruto had similar progression to scifi where the ultimate villains were actually aliens.
>>288850727I only ever watched the anime, how did the manga change?
>>288851338>how did the manga change?The art changed to more seinen and it went full action battle.
>>288850895I never actually knew that. That's hilarious.
>>288849999A lot
I stopped reading it before the shift, but apparently Amanchu eventually stopped being a completely realistic special interest manga about scuba diving and turned into some fantasy, alternate reality thing later on?
>>288849999NegimaAttack on Titan Katekyo Hitman Reborn
>>288849999Kokou no Hito was way more shonenshit at the beginning
>>288850537that the one with 8 chapters of rape or was that wolfman or whatever?
>>288851966>Katekyo Hitman Rebornwas going to mention this
Beastars
>>288849999I remember that Kuma Miko anime making people mad when the last few episodes changed the tune completely
>>288850792It'd be interesting imagining berserk without the black swordsman arc.You're reading a medieval political drama, with the only odd thing being Griffiths weird pendant, then all of a sudden Zodd shows up and pulls a guillotine gorilla. Could maybe push his chapter back some more too to have a bigger punch.
>>288850170The comedy was fucking dogshit so good on the author.
>>288850537Now GraPara (from Karami Zakari author) is following the same path. From a romcom to netori misery porn.
Ajin after volume 1 quickly became tacticool bullshit because the writer quit and the artist took over the writing.>>288850279A lot of people don't even know about it likely, since the anime didn't adapt the early manga chapters where that kind of thing was the strongest.
Joukamachi no DandellionFunny gag manga became drama manga now battle royale for no reason. One of the most jarring series I had the displeasure of reading but I wanna see how much off the rails it goes.
>>288853054beastars was always a schizophrenic series
I guess it might not qualify but that the fuck happened to Centaur Worries? Did it just get abandoned by the licensor?
>>288850135Negima was more gradual.>>288850791came here to post this.
>>288850321plenty of authors choose the option of the tournament themselves because it's an easy scenario and they are better at drawing than writing.
>>288849999Medaka Box started as a case of the week manga, but by the third arc it became the battle manga everyone remember it as.
>>288853537This is why people tell those new to it to skip the Black Swordsman arc until after Eclipse.
>>288851809Was it ever a scuba diving series? Anime only but it was barely even mentioned and then the endless fantasy sensei x shota arc happened and completely lost interest.
Its called medaka box syndromeAll manga running in shounen magazines inevitably converge on the shonen battle manga format. Many such cases.
>>288850791Hence why its medakabox syndrome>>288855671
>>288855449No fucking way, really? I remember the anime being super cute and comfy with their family theme.
>>288855671Did Akane Banashi devolve into one yet? I kinda liked the anime but as a long runner in >>>>WSJ I don't really feel like checking it out because of this.
>>288855671Which sucks ass because Jump used to be pretty different, there was a period in history where it was called a magazine for girls with how many romcoms and female main characters the magazine had, also gag manga that went for over 300 chapters.
>>288850321Every tournament arc in Kinnukiman was organicand frankly you'd be hard pressed to write any kind of sports manga without the MC competing in tournaments
>>288855727Yeah, they spent like the last 25 chapters in some dumb tournament with another family of superpowered royals who are the diametical opposite of the MC family.
>>288855835Yeah I pretty much meant non-sports mangas since they're going to be the bread and butter of sports mangas. Even a tournament arc I like, the chunin exams, felt like it was being rushed into way too fast via executive meddling.
>>288849999ruri is 100% about to do this
>>288850787people say that like jttw wasn't a sequel to a story about sun wukong going to heaven and beating the shit out of all the gods with his 72 transfoemations and assorted taoist sorceries that let him hurl around fireballs and lightning bolts and freeze beams
>>288850170I remember a high-school friend having merch from that show. They were the magical rings they used
>>288850232This. I like Frieren but it jumps from cozy fantasy Manga to battle shonen where wizards have themed powers. It's like going from Mushishi to Fairy Tail every other arc
>>288855982Jesus christ that's so ass, I liked it because it was a fun and comfy family manga.
>>288855989iirc Kishimoto had planned to do a chuunin exam tournament sooner or later but his editor convinced him to do it right away after the waves arc to introduce a bunch of merchandisable characters all at once, since waves arc just revolved around two opponentscome to think of it I wonder if he made akatsuki a series of duos just because it worked for zabuza and haku
>>288852053It's pretty amazing how good it got after the original author left after arguing with the artist and the artist was like 'fuck that guy I'm gonna make a masterpiece now.' Even the return of the senpai character seemed like it existed to shit on the OG story.
>>288850368>>288850377Not a genre shift. It became hyperfocused on one game, but it was still about magical games.
>>288849999Not really genres but there's a manhwa called The Breaker where the author + illustrator team decided to make the third part a fucking webtoon AND feature a different MC.
>>288851061Rather than a shift, I'd call that the series juggling multiple genres at once.
>>288849999Vinland Saga turned into Farmland Saga
>>288850193You could've just said it went from killing demons to "humans are the villains actually" but you chose to be a faggot instead
>>288856562Yeah the story fizzled out for me once they actually god to vinland
>>288856107I really liked early Frieren and wish it had been more "roaming around the world toward the goal but occasionally Frieren would go full terminator whenever demons were nearby" then we got the Aura fight and nothing ever topped it. And the fucking magic school academy contest thing was dumb right after.
Fun fact from some interview: Miura considered Berserk to be a shoujo.
>>288855792It is structured like a battle series despite it being a story telling gag manga
Kokou no Hito started out as a pretty typical sports shonen and then turned into a psychological study on obsession and human flaws filled with weird psychedelic visual metaphor. Autistic MC gets his teacher killed a few volumes in and the story completely flips
>>288849999Watamote. You could only do so much with loner cringe material before people get bored and drop the manga. Went to her having a small group of friends to then a yuri bait manga. Now it's a harem manga for her brother.Doesn't help that their other mangas all flopped.
>>288857243>harem manga for her brother.What harem? Otooto is for crossdresser yaoi for the girls to cream themselves every night only. He (rightfully) hates every single girl in the series too.
>>288851420You have to have an IQ over 1 to post here.
>>288849999>manga about gravure idols doing idol shit, masturbating, and getting raped by industry men>turns into a boring as fuck martial arts tournamentI'm still mad.
>>288849999Golden Boy manga
>>288850232The Frieren genre change was jarring and terrible>comfy SoL fantasty adventure with mature themes>suddenly teenage yuri lesbian battle shounen magic tournament>70% of the screentime is now literally whos with pokemon powers and yuri lesbians uguuImmediately dropped from a 10 to a 5
>>288858917Hagure Idol?
>>288859232Between the hiatuses and the glacial pace spread between 3 independent I don't even remember what the fuck was happening. I don't think I will be continuing it if it ever comes back.
>>288849999hitman reborn went from strictly gag to way too serious shonen fighting to really shit shonen fighting
>>288850581"second half" like it isn't the majority of the damn manga only returning at the end
>>288850311he's saying there's a juxtaposition between the fighting being called bland and boring and yet the slice of life is not at all what most recall or enjoy about the manga, and frankly i agree even when the slice of life was good
>>288849999I dunno about genres, but Ajin drastically changed in tone after the creator collab fell apart and one creator completely took over the manga.
>>288849999The most recent that come to my mind would be Kaguya-sama maybe? Though it's not a straight cut but holy shit you go from a very good comedy to searching with a glass some joke stingily trown once every three chapters amidst tedious melodrama in the end.
>>288855671>Its called medaka box syndromeAnd how does this differ from Cerebus Syndrome
>>288860181I can't believe the Cubari Faccacimo was the best joke in the manga after all.
SnK. It switched from intense kaijukino into complete shitslop
>>288852485Wolf Guy, which has a gang rape that lasted over a year of its publication.
>>288849999Asobi asobase. The manga turned from stupid girls doing stupid things to yuri girls under extreme sexual tension.
And then the giant robot showed up and everyone were X-men
>>288860394Thanks for reminding me of this shit, asshole. There is a reason it wasn't mentioned at all despite it being the poster child of the thread's subject. Get on with the program.
>>288855121>romcom?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
technically anime but the GOAT
Does Shokugeki no Souma pre and post Food Stalin count?
>>288850791Medaka Box is so good though, it's very fun in the way it just goes completely bonkers all over the place with its ideas, and never really gets boring.
All isekai slop pivots into haremshit sooner or later.
>ctrl+f "narutaru" "shadow star">0 resultsare you guys even trying
>>288850193
>>288860778At that point it's no longer a genre tho. Just another component of the isekai genre.
>>288860846No longer a genre change I meant.
>>288849999TsugumomoIts peak
>>288860917idk I thought the genre shift was neat but then nobody actually dies, it's just softcore porn which is really hot holy shit but like how are you suppose to stroke my dick if there's no actual edgy shit.
>>288860967Im not gonna stroke your dick, weirdo.
>>288860917I remember back during the glacial save loli from afterlife arc people were saying the author was tired of the manga. Lmao.
>>288860967At the moment 3 main characters are dead with one being really fucking dead and another with no mention of coming back.
>>288860995man i want to get my dick stuck in a mirror
>>288861013>mfw kazuya was suppose to fuck kiriha in the NTR part but he backed outREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE>>288861048wait who's dead? because almost everyone who "died" is coming back lol
>>288860784I don't think it fits in here. If you want to say that it was a tone shift then maybe but that isn't the same as a genre shift.
>>288861013I think the author is in constant war against his editor. He is so horny it's unreal. And we finally got full penetration and nakadashi on page so he is winning really hard. Kiriha and needle girl will be triple pregnant at the rate this is going.
>>288849999Are you fishing for every gag manga that turned into battle manga?
>>288853706The action was worse though....
>>288861078Mom is dead, her body is used as a vessel. Hair mom is dead, killed by the government. No, the hair loli isn't her, they are 2 separate entities. Only one coming back is loli goddess but thats taking awfully long. Also a lot of minor characters died.
>>288861190Meh, mom dying is just a plot excuse, wouldn't really count it. Hair mommy subplot is stupid and needless I agree. It's waaaay too late to add another baddie to this what, 40 volume rollercoaster at this point.
>>288861112Only full penetration with other characters. The editor must be the one stopping it being confirmed to happen with the harem.
>>288849999Vinland saga the manga starts with the battle at the fort then switches midway to the backstory then battle then farm and battle and exploration and then ends with a battle at the last 10 chaptere.
>>288861300Careful moving that goalpost anon.
>>288861190>loli goddessi need more information
>>288855671>medaka box syndromeanon, medaka box is a parody
>>288855671not only that, the most popular ones didn't even started as a battle manga but gag manga. Arguably even dragon ball, as the first chapters is goku defeating everyone with a single punch, and only later we see actual martial arts.And that's a good thing.
>>288861519>anon, medaka box is a parodyThat does everything it claims to parody
>>288861648Yes, but then it keeps taking the bit much further than anything would ever end up naturally.
Time skips are a hell of a drug.
>>288849999what was that name of the manga where the dude befriended an angel who wanted to cure his depression? it was made by the death note guys. i remember it going from that to fucking capeshit.
>>288861424Read nigga, read.
>>288860394>yuri girls under extreme sexual tensionHot.
I liked in Bakuman that they bring this up as a strategy mangaka pull. Also reborn getting mentioned which is also what came to mind for the biggest example of it that I’ve seen
>>288855671Imagine that happening to Act-Age if they didn't cancel it.
A comedy series suddenly turning into a full-blown battle manga is fairly commonplace. But what of the elusive battle manga -> comedy shift?
>>288849999Often this comes from the writer dropping out. Kokou no Hito went from a pretty standard spokon manga about a boy learning to climb, to a psychological examination of untreated aspergers and schizoid personality disorder with mountains becoming metaphors.
>>288863669You'd get the Shokugeki no Soma style retardation at the end.
>>288849999Watamote
Black AngelCriminal-of-the-week vigilante serial killer -> Heroic bloodshed criminal conspiracy -> Fantasy post-apocalyptic shonen
>>288864145ugh why did you remind me
>>288860394I just watched the anime so I'm glad I didn't read the manga then.
>>288864145This just becomes a different manga around the school trip arc.Maybe the mangaka wanted to make a new manga but was afraid of losing all the audience, so he just retooled watamote instead.
>>288851338They're pretty much two completely different stories after the first couple episodes of the anime introducing the characters. While the anime goes full moeblob harem mode, the manga turns into a fairly competent battle shounen
>>288849999solanin, could had put the death at the start and then go on how things ended that way
>>288865400>Maybe the mangaka wanted to make a new manga but was afraid of losing all the audience, so he just retooled watamote instead.They weren't just afraid of it, it happened at least four times while it was ongoing, three of which while they were looking to wind Watamote down.>Number Girl (2012)>Write Sisters (2016)>Scum and Fake Literature Girl (2017)>Kaihin Shuugakuin (2020)Those all got axed, and even Watamote originally only survived its first two volumes by a flood of anon penises. Eventually the mangaka duo apparently gave up having a future outside of Watamote, and the blatant retool/milking really ramped up.
>>288855982How awful. The anime was so fun.
>>288858917Kill yourself
>>288861519Every parody that goes on for long enough eventually stops being a parody.
>>288862378Platinum End?
>>288864145That's just positive development.
>>288850098A series that balances both would be fun as hell, issue with otokojuku as far as I know is that it's basically meathead HnK after The trials. Maybe if they actually fully animated it, it'd have gotten some filler to balance things out.
Medaka Box?
For me it's Claymore. It's much worse than Berserk. The Japanese just can't do dark-fantasy or seinen miseryporn: they spend years drawing a manga, and as they get older they start thinking about some pony galloping across a rainbow. Everything eventually devolves into a shounenshitI dropped it at the point where there was a panel showing all the girls standing on rooftops like magical-girl squad coming to save the day. At that point it wasn't Claymore anymore - it was fucking Totally Spies. Unfortunately even here people consider it one of the best manga ever made. Fuck all retards over 20 who watch/read shounenshit, you're a fucking cancer on the planet
>>288866670Anon...
>>288860501Muv Luv fucking sucks
>>288866670>>288866722embarrassing
>>288849999hakaijuustarts off as some shitty survival horror, becomes kino incarnate
>>288866722But both the pre-Pieta arcs and Pieta arc itself in the manga felt like a full-fledged seinen
>>288849999It's called Dragon Ball
>>288866748fuck u
>>288856415It DID have a genre shift, but it was before even that. The earliest chapters had more of a Laughing Salesman horror thing going on. You can pretty much see the moment where he pivoted just by looking at the way Dark Yugi is drawn.
>>288856630well since he's significantly less retarded than you are he stated how it changed genres rather made a complaint about the aesthetics of the plot
>>288859232The Frieren genre shift started long before that, with the first encounter with demons. It just exposed how bad the writing was whenever it wasn't about SOL and character moments because the fights are terrible. In addition to the spells being boring, there's no tension because Frieren, Fern, and whoever they're hanging out with that week are always stronger than the enemy.
>>288855671Medaka box was always shitposting, I refuse to believe Niso didn't want to take it there from the beginning, even chapter 0 and 1 had fights and power scaling. Its very aware of its retardness unlike say Air Gear
>>288865505I enjoy the moeblob harem anime, something about it just has a very good vibe. I wish they made a third season and capped off Moka and Tsukune's relationship though.
>>288855489But it became a fighting manga for some reason.
>>288849999Genshiken first half it's so good. I remember forcing myself to read it til the end because of how shitty and poorly handed the second half was. It was like the author quickly recognized all the new characters sucked so he just throw them into a harem plot. Also he spent waaaaaay too much time focusing on the femboy, and obviously that all that went nowhere because Madarame was never a fag. Nice digits btw
>>288850135I loved that akamatsu changed the manga midway. School festival arc and magic world arc is unironically fucking kino. Yue best girl but I'm also glad Chisame won
>>288867749The characters are also aware of how retard it is, so much they let go of all that bullshit when they turn adult.
>>288868973>Bro you still have powers? Aren't you over 20?>Gross....
>>288867749Yeah but calling it hitmanrebornsyndrome doesnt really have a good ring to it
Hunter x Hunter with every arc.
People saying dragon ball are retarded, the adventure premise was pretty much abandoned after pilaf and mainly became a martial arts manga. After RR which was disliked by japs, it was put in the dirt and idiots who think aliens were somehow a jump the shark moment for the series clearly never read DB when it already had advanced tech, beings from another world, and talking animals from the start.
>>288866670>seinen miserypornShigurui exists
>>288856107>t's like going from Mushishi to Fairy Tail every other arcYour favorite mushi jobs easily to my favorite mushi
Any manga that starts out about fighting monsters will always, ALWAYS, end up devolving into a battle shonen against humans. Monsters vanish from the plot as soon as an antagonist that can talk shows up.
>>288849999Aliens Area kind of, it seems likely that it was envisioned as something closer to men in black with a lot of that being low stakes stuff but editorial wanted a battle series, then when it failed and was on the path to being axed they just swapped it to what it was meant to be for the closing stretch (besides the very end)
>>288871986>series starts with monsters that can't talk before moving on to ones that can>everybody says they should have just started with the talking ones
>>288849999Not halfway but I remember how Katekyo Hitman Reborn turned into an ok comedy slice of life into a bad battle shounen
Baki becomes a street fight manga to a Yaoi male harem with the sumo saga.
>>288866670>Everything eventually devolves into a shounenshit>I dropped it at the point where there was a panel showing all the girls standing on rooftops like magical-girl squad coming to save the day.Unironically sounds like a you problem. Maybe you misread the series and thought it was nothing but gloom and doom when the writer had a more uplifting and traditional story in mind.
>>288857243You could do tons and tons if you had some ballsMake her go murder hoboMake her join a cultMake her turn into an illegal guns nut
>>288872905Anything is better than "oh she just gets friends and is a lesbian now invalidating the entire premise and why people liked her to begin with K bye"
>>288849999Any manga that goes on for too long
>>288860917This is a funny example to me because it's not like it was a shift for the worse either. It's genuinely one of the best-drawn battle manga out there. And now the characters just straight up have explicit sex during the downtime between fights ("""no penetration""").It's a shame the series is so hard to reccomend because of the great cunny filter.
>>288872914>is a lesbian now>nowShe always wanted to fuck yuuchan more than any man.
>>288873045You could argue that was caused by her isolation and complete inexperience with menAnyways it doesnt matter
>>288860917porn doesnt count
>>288850098It changes genres but, other than character designs, its nothing like hokuto.
>>288873061If there is one thing that hasn't changed in the series from chapter 1 to now is that Nico was never going to add a male character that's not her brother or someone to bully her brother.
>>288850845Actually reading it helps a lot.
>>288868973Give me powers and put Nisio in front of me.I will show him how much of a retard I am.
>>288866670Berserk was a shoujo.
>>288857243yeah was thinking of this too. the author chickened out of letting the girl (I actually forgot the name) meeting a boyfriend or some shit. >>288859232I stopped reading after the four-handed sword-holding demon mini arc, what happened next?
Sakamoto days also comes to mind
>>288856107Frieren was once pitched to me as "like if YKK had a tournament arc!" which is just about the most unappealing thing someone's ever tried to sell me on.
>>288863860Isn't that what Baki did? More sol than comedy but whatever
>>288849999Can't believe nobody has mentioned Deadman Wonderland yet>oh shit a hellhole prison where the convicts have to play dangerous games to stave off execution, how will the MC get enough candy to survive?>suddenly turns into a powerscaling battle royal all about blood magic
>>288849999SNK’s premise changed so starkly after the basement that I’d argue it was a genre shift. Maybe even earlier with the shifter reveal
>>288849999Hitman reborn started out as an unfunny comedy and ended up as a battle shonen slop of the highest order
why are nips utterly unable to keep a straight face
>>288849999I distinctly remember air gear starting out as a roll blade racing manga whatever the fuck it ended up being I can even begin to articulate
>>288860501Comfy
>>288849999Given enough time, most manga eventual turn into DBZ
>>288849999Jagaaan maybe. Or the ball girls or whatever?
Chichi Chichi went from a weird, sexual slice of life to some weird "Stop the Boob Cultist" plot that completely destroyed the slice of life aspect.
Terraformars. How could I forget that horseshit. Started as an interesting, but a little goofy horror and soon devolved into battle shounen between nations and trying to slip in patriotism. Also, Pumpkin Night.
>>288849999I've learned to accept the silliness with these genre shifts and now every time it happens I see it as kino
>>288856886This was good though.
Shokugeki no Soma is probably the one that bothered me the most, though it didn't necessarily change genres, so much as the stakes changed so much that it felt like a different genre. After they introduced Erina's Dad it went from a nice mix of SoL and low stakes food competitions to no room for comfy SoL since they have to heckin save the (food) world from the heckin evil bad guys
>>288879838>they have to heckin save the (food) world from the heckin evil bad guysthe food world today is under attack by evil bad guys
>>288879992Even if that is somehow true, it's not like you can defeat them with a food battle. The food battles only made sense in the context of a school setting, so when they started using them outside of a school setting it just felt retarded. Then there was the dumpsterfire of a final arc with an opponent who has literal magic powers, which also felt like a genre shift to fucking urban fantasy.
>>288866914That pivot happened way before the card game when Shadi was introduced and it became a fully fledged battle manga about games with yami taking a more heroic role. By the time the focus shifted to duel monsters the series identity had already solidified and the card game focus wasnt a very jarring shift in that context, not to mention that the manga has the full DDM arc which the shitty anime gutted
>>288861519medaka box falls into exactly the same tropes as any other battle manga and plays it completely straight most of the time, its just that medaka is a kenshiro type protagonist (but infinitely less cool or interesting) instead of a naruto type underdogall the meta shit is just winking and nudging instead of actual subversion
>>288880523I dunno, it stops being a battle manga pretty much immediately after the tournament arc.
>>288872952i got tired when they had a huge massive flashback arc for the mom character all for the sake of establishing her extremely shallow character, this series wastes too much time on the wrong things and the art doesnt make up for it
>>288880578it pretends like its yugioh for a bit but yugioh is still a battle manga
>>288874922A big steaming pile of nothing
