Ame and Michica bonding over being mentally ill was really cute.
It's AOTS without question
i like watching girls having fun and be miserable
>>288851262>the screenshot I posted it made it to the opLook mom I'm famous now!>>288847564>I don't agree with the idea that otaku need to be miserable people seeking joy from fantasy. Seems to be a foreign concept these days to many people but you can indulge in escapism and not be mentally ill.You gotta see through the lens of people like nyalra and other japanese folk who are essentially labed failures, what you just said IS a foreign concept and anathema to the japanese (hell it is everywhere), they are meant to hold a miserable office job, get married and have children long ago, anything less than that and they are failures to society, to feel joy with escapism and not being concerned with nagging women or children and instead doing your own things is meant to be shamed, not accepted.In this scenario many of these folk who indulge in escapism were already miserable and the little joy they have from the internet won't be enough, they need friends they can relate to, and mudane shit like a controlled intake of meds, the anime is meant very specifically meant for these people that are in the deep end like nyalra is, depressed and barely coping by using whatever they can (the internet in this case) as their balm for the soul
>>288848617I only presented the data. Your interpretation is not necessarily the same as mine.I wanted to prove that people saw it, called it "pretentious" and didn't give it a chance.There are of course two definitions of pretentious here I cannot conflate. First is that it's claiming a merit it hasn't earned, this comes down to the framework one uses to critique it with reasoned arguments. This is valid, but only if the critic is acting in good faith. The natural, dwindling use of the word before I brought it up proves more to me than any score or reaction given to the first couple episodes. Second is pretentiousness in ambition, that is, reaching past your own grasp in earnest.Take the Super Mario Galaxy movie, for example, also a very loose animated Japanese game adaptation that came out 3 days prior to the first episode of NGO.It's unpretentious to the maximum, and while unpretentiousness can be good too, in this case it made it one of the most cynical, hyperprocessed consumer products I have ever seen.Then there's NGO, an anime that compares an internet streamer to Jesus and another to Judas. It's an anime, often considered a very "lowbrow" medium. It's obvious that people will call it pretentious in the first sense outright. But if every time an anime tries to push the envelope just a bit it gets mauled, anime being a "lowbrow" medium just becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy because of the audience.As for me personally, I would call it pretentious in the second sense. It has achieved more than I thought it would, and I would say it is actually grasping for less than people say.
>>288843869>You just know Ohisashiburi has drawn official porn in private but can't share it.In Ohisashiburi's hands NGO would be ecchi KINO
>>288851262i need to catch up ep 11 and 12 still. i read there was an ‘uncensored’ version out, is it on nyaa?
>You don't understand, if the characters don't turn to the camera and deliver a five minutes dissertation on the work they're referencing it's not enough. Just pretend the classics themselves weren't just as "superficial" with their references to previous ones (Dante never actually read Homer and he still put him and Ulysses in Inferno).>That's the opposite of how reality works. Kindly kill yourselfThe entire point was that it was pretentious because of all the superficial references. I argued why the references are superficial. You completely refuse to engage with the arguments, in all likelihood because you are just stupid. Perhaps you consider criticism of your precious anime a personal insult, which doesn't make sense unless one of you is nyalra himself.Can't say I'm surprised, but I am disappointed that you cannot even take 5 minutes to form a coherent response based on a simple line of thinking. Instead you get agitated and think quickly typing an insult counts as "winning". Truly sad.Go ahead and post your base little reply now.
>>288852120>Go ahead and post your base little reply now.Kek you are so mad right now. It's 10am on a Sunday, anon. Relax
When is the blu-ray coming out?
>>288852120Aww, is the little offboarder retard too stupid to know how to reply across threads? Unplug your PC and stick a fork in the socket.
I love going on the catalog and typing "sneed" to find this thread.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JsVYFeyFNlwThis song reminds me of this show now.
>>288851354>picThat was the best mid episode bit.
So the next episode will be the end not only of the anime, but of NGO as a whole, right?
>>288853092Next week is the final conclusion of Anime as a concept
>>288851262WAOTS, I don't even give a fuck what happens in the last episode at this point.
>>288853169>WAOTSNot when Ghost Concert exists.
>>288853400And Mata Korosarete and Reincarnation no Kaben
>>288853461Those are at least fun bad. GC is just disappointing and annoying.
Kache's pubes.
>>288854349Kache shaves like a proper beauty-obsessed whore.
>>288854349Did she also dyed half of them?
Dropped this after 4 episodes. Did it get better?
>>288855024it somehow only managed to get worse.
>>288855024Why did you drop peak to begin with?
EZ DO DANCE EZ DO DANCEEZ DO DANCE E E E
calling something pretentious is just an illogical means of venting your dislike of something.>thing attempts a>i like>deep!>thing attempts b>i dislike>saying it is not deep would not be scathing enough>make up bullshit about it being pretentiousneedy girl overdose is not deep, but the intent in its references is clearly the author loving those things. people are enslaved to a moral need to consider works they don't like as immoral and arrogant through rhetoric and bullshit
https://hazedenki.net/api/Post/Details/needy-anime-episode-12-internet-yamero
>>288856694>There were times people misunderstood and thought I hated Ame-chan or enjoyed tormenting her, but I hope they’ll believe it came from parental love.Nyalra...
>>288853550>GC is just disappointing and annoying.This right here.But I dropped Kaben on episode 3, is it really mindlessly fun? Like I watched Mata Korosarete and I find it fun enough to watch it all the way to completion and the threads were pretty entertaining.
>>288856694>The success of this song brought both blessings and curses. Because of it, Aiobahn and I got tossed around relentlessly.>So much happened that I’m honestly amazed we never ended up fighting. But perhaps because even worse things happened afterward, we’ll probably stay together from now on.Wh-What happened?
>>288856694>This was also the moment when Ohisashiburi-san drew a slightly sexy picture.>Poor Kache-chan was always unlucky.which one is he talking about
>>288857143>is it really mindlessly fun?Not really. I mean, it's okayish. I'm gonna watch the whole thing. But I honestly could not tell you why
>>288855267I invited my uncle to a Ramen Shop last Friday as a pre-Father's Day celebration. He didn't understand all those Kung-fu Letters all over the walls nor the weeb songs on the background, so I took my time to read him the menu until he chose something he liked. We had a great time while chatting about work and wahtnot. I didn't tell him I consider him like a father figure, even when my father (his little brother)was still alive. He enjoyed the meal and then we went window shopping around the anime stores (he knows I am full blown weeb for over 25 years now). Today he and my aunts left to visit my grandfather's and my father's grave. I just didn't feel like getting out of bed. Thanks for reading my blog ;_;
>>288856261>but the intent in its references is clearly the author loving those thingsThat's the key point. Something that's genuine cannot be pretentious.
>>288855697MR. ADVERTISER GET DOWN!
>>288851847>an anime that compares an internet streamer to Jesus and another to JudasThat's precisely why it's pretentious, because it bites more than it can chew and ends up being and embarrassing thing to see. Art shouldn't be judged by what it tries to achieve, but by truly accomplishes. Just because something has religious references and parrots classical novels doesn't make it worth praising.
>>288855024Episode 11 is the best the show has to offer by far. You can skip the rest
>convince a JK sell you her pussy for an astronomical amount>before you can seal the deal her dyke girlfriend snatches her awayThat must suck, I honestly feel bad for the ojiisan. I hope they at least reimbursed him
Kache is the mama, Nechika is the papa and everyone else is their adorable children.
>>288858658If biblical times where to happen on 202X, it would be very much go like NGO. Nyarla noticed it way before everyone else.
>>288858658There are deep parts in the Bible but in large part the gospels aren't among them. Lollipop's relationship with Ame is an order of magnitude more complex than the one between Jesus and Judas in the actual Bible. Don't conflate the mythos and cultural exploration people have built around them with the actual text and its rather simplistic nature.
>>288858658>it bites more than it can chewI'd bet my life you don't actually know what NGO attempted to do with the Bible allegory
>bible speak>literary references>kafkaesque dialoguePretentious anime. Pretentious fanbase.
I need to marry this anime somehow
So this just became boring fluff?
>>288859480When have I've said that the gospels were complex literature? I'm saying that there's no reason to reference them other than to try to score intellectual points among pseuds
Realistically speaking, how hard would it be for someone like Ame, who canonically is cute as a button, to find a REAL P-chan that puts up with her bullshit?
Someone post the webm of Ame-chan shitting.
>another show that ignores the flaws of the characters for another cute "yuriii" ending
>>288860153What a retarded take. Culturally known things are referenced because it informs the narrative. Next you'll start to complain about metaphors.
>>288859866>>bible speakIt wasn't actually anything from the bible, it was some Japanese guy's fanfiction tier take on what the gospel is about.
>>288860372When superficial references take so much screen time that could be spent on actually developing the characters I'll complain about them. I don't have to clap every time someone makes a bible analogy in a anime
>>288860458Fanfiction about the Bible is generally better than the Bible.
>>288860481You're not an original creation. You are the generative accumulation of your experiences. You are the traces other things have left on your shell. Exploring the things that shape the characters is exploring the characters. The references in NGO are diegetic. You are learning about the characters through them. To a degree greater than the average anime, even.
>>288858658>Just because something has religious references and parrots classical novels doesn't make it worth praising.Correct me if I'm wrong, but you're laser focusing on "it has references" here. I don't see people praising it because it cited the Bible, Dostoevsky, Miyazawa, etc. but due to the contents of the anime itself.Which brings me to another point of yours, >Art shouldn't be judged by what it tries to achieve, but by truly accomplishes. Why not? Accomplishes what, when and according to whom? And what do you mean by what it "truly" accomplishes? If you mean its contents, whether it accomplishes something is up for debate, not a fact.The problem here I think, which I partake in also, is that people are defending and attacking things based just on broad meta-principles instead of discussing specific points of the show, e.g. the end of episode 2, the first half of episode 10, etc.
>>288860563>The references in NGO are diegeticThat doesn't make them any less embarrassing, and the anime endorses them instead of pointing out how delusional they are.
>>288860563References need to mean something instead of existing just for the sake of references.
>>288860686>I don't see people praising it because it cited the Bible, Dostoevsky, Miyazawa, etc. but due to the contents of the anime itself.I don't see many people praising it for anything at all>Why not? Accomplishes what, when and according to whom? And what do you mean by what it "truly" accomplishes? If you mean its contents, whether it accomplishes something is up for debate, not a fact.Yes, art is subjective, definite and absolute judgements don't exist, and everyone judges art according to their own parameters. For me, trying to achieve something profound isn't meritorious if you fail to convey the fundamental aspects of a story. You mentioned before how the Super Mario Galaxy movie was a cynical commercial product, and I'll take your word for it because I haven't seen that movie, but I don't think trying to avoid being like that is an achievement in itself. Maybe pretentious is a controversial word, so if you wish I'll just call NGO a bad anime.
>>288860201There are no shortage of fools in the world. I bet many would jump to the chance of being with Ame. Wether they lose their sanity in the process is another thing entirely.
If you think the Bible references were unnecessary you unironically did not get it at all
>>288861259>I bet many would jump to the chance of being with AmeHow bad can it actually be?
>>288861069The references all mean something.
>>288861081>I don't see many people praising it for anything at allBecause you're blind and a faggot
>>288857461
>>288861657GUHid drink her moloko straight from the source
>>288861452No, because only a handful of retards like (you) praise this piece of shit anime in this God forsaken website. In 2 months nobody will remember this anime even existed
>>288861081You have a fair point about what I thought of the movie, and to be fair, I brought up the word up again after no one used it for a while, so let's just stop this.
Sex with Nechika in her grieving gown
>>288860458My two favorite sequences in the anime so far, were the green door and the substitution of Matthew 6’s hypocrites to loneliness. To come to the threads both times to find out they were basically ctrl c ctrl v was so disappointing. At least they do make sense in regard to the story.>>288860686>discussing specific points of the showYeah… wish people didn’t get so caught up with the p-word. And I also wish those arguing for it being that could bring up examples of a good work using religious references like The Ballad of Reading Gaol,or now thinking about it really any book in the English literary canon, to try and compare how they differ and why one works and the other doesn’t, but it is a what it is I guess.
>>288851354It's my favorite of the 2020s so far
>>288861872I'm glad we were able to finish this debate in good terms. I'll now go watch the WC, I wish you a good Sunday.
>>288861909>a good work using religious references like [...] any book in the English literary canonExcept Narnia
>>288855697kek I wishThe split hair look was way better
>In this anime, only Kache has earned the right to embody “motherhood.” As long as they’re a streamer running away from reality, they can’t become one. You might not even be capable of love. Terrible news for Fauna's husband
>>288861657After I've been milked for so long I can no longer stand
Let's discuss serious matters instead: is either Nyalra or the director a BSfag?
>>288862295I doubt it's an inspiration for NGO but I wouldn't be surprised if he's played it.
