Okay this is why I do not watch too much idol anime. I cannot understand this series. It seems to operate in a world where the Internet fame is far less powerful and notable than operating in the traditional entertainment industry that it loves to constantly boast about all the while vtubers and Song cover YouTubers would be more well known than anyone in the cast.
>>288875447The vtuber phenomenon has moved faster than the generational rollover, it will be a few years more before the sort of people who 'get' vtubers will be the ones writing manga and getting anime made. Anime has always been full of outdated tropes inherited from previous eras that people like in animation but have functionally no real world counterpart. Idol tropes and Idol stories will continue in anime as a flandarized version of themselves long after the reality of the situation has changed, in the same way that anime still pretends that gyaru exist despite that having been a temporary fad ages ago.
>>288875588Gyaru still exist and have always existed. Fashion trends change.
>>288875447It operates in a world that views JPop as far bigger than it actually is even in Japan. (Ai Hoshino is basically treated on the same level as something like Lady Gaga). Idols very rarely get mainstream attention because they get tossed aside before they hit 30.>>288875588There is Needy Girl Overdose which came out this year which does handle this concept better.
>>288875447I highly recommend reading this, it will answer most of your doubts.https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiction
>>288875588The author of the manga is in his late 30s, but I expected him to have a better idea of how entertainment fame exists than this.
>>288875709Anan did you think that I thought that getting reborn into another body with all your memories intact was a normal thing that happens?
>>288875447Let's be real. If it was actually "Authentic" all the girls would have a ton of sex scenes with Japanese Oji-san's.
>>288875787Kana did.
>>288875588>it will be a few years more before the sort of people who 'get' vtubers will be the ones writing manga and getting anime made.Akasaka Aka understands (translation: simps for) vtubers and he's nearing his 40s. We even had at least one vtuber anime already.
>>288875827Which is bizarre then because his understanding of Internet fame is completely whack. memcho is considered a massive success on YouTube despite not even hitting 500K subs, and then he has Pieyon be managed by an agency when YouTubers rarely do that anymore because it was stupid.His entire concept of efame feels stuck in 2012.
Akasaka writing YouTubers like they're junior talents waiting to graduate into "real" showbiz is the giveaway that he sees traditional entertainment as the actual ladder and digital fame as a feeder system, which is exactly backwards from how the attention economy actually works now.
I think the thing that gets me the most is that on a large level the whole reincarnation plot would meaningless in a few years once the Ai's kids remembered she was actually a person and idols get abandoned and also rarely get that far in the first place. the manga has to invent a different world where Idols are way bigger than they are to sell the wishfulfillment aspect.I wish the series kept the mom alive and focused on the sheer awkwardness of the situation Also more incest.
I imagine that Ruby will kill herself the second her idol career ends. Even if her brother was not a retard she would have gone into depression because these two had nothing to live for beyond revenge for their mother.
>>288876413Why were people surprised when the ending was garbage?
>>288875915Maybe shit works differently in Japan.
>>288876876YouTube does not magically pay you better depending on where you live. You are not supporting a family anywhere near a city on that income.Memcho was doing that.
Was this show ever popular here?
Akane
Kana
This is neopotism the series.
AkaniggersKaniggers
>>288877413No
>>288875588While this is broadly true, its also the case that entertainment execs will support a tried and true method to make money (traditional Idols) over experimental methods that might crash and burn (vtubers), so in this respect many of these shows still reflect reality.
>>288878903Then they are stupid because vtubers are having actual appeal beyond Japan.Jpop idols rarely have that
>>288876989>Memcho was doing that.memcho was working different jobs tho
>>288876535It was an idol show. People who like that stuff are braindead.
>>288875447>vtubers and Song cover YouTubers would be more well known than anyone in the cast.lol, cry more zoomer
>>288880198It is absolutely true with raw numbers.
>>288875588>it will be a few years more before the sort of people who 'get' vtubers will be the ones writing manga and getting anime made.No it won't. This is already happening.
>>288875915It also got her added to the idol group.
>>288875915It depends on the audience, in the case of an e-girl she could be making a ton of money from donations from simps, at least if she does livestreaming.
>>288880353What manga is this?
>>288880571mayonaka heart tune
>>288880739I looked up the premise it seems to be about a radio show?
>>288880843it's a romcom where the MC is looking for a girl that had a radio show that he used to listen when he was little and the only clue he has is her voicethe premise is that all the girls in the bowl have a dream to do something with their voices (singer, vtuber, announcer, voice actor) and somehow they all have a similar voice to the girl the MC is looking for
>>288880885Oh cool okay
Have you watched anime before?
>>288881364Yes and I fall victim to a lot of wishfulfillment stuff on the surface then get disappointed because it often fails to do anything with it.
I feel like Ruby would get her pussy wet for any man who just said that they liked her for her and not resembling her mom.
KanaratsAkaneschizosRubyputasMemchoGODS
>>288882999She is the only character people care about and she is dead after the first episode.
>>288875588As an aside, you can see the evolution of the idol industry through macrossWith the original story being the classical idol, moving into F being in the diva era and Delta being more modernI seriously believe that whenever the next series happens it will be about vtubers in some way primarily
>>288876413That won't happen because she will retire at the peak of her fame to marry me and have 6 kids
>>288883093She will just lie to you all the time and never show real emotion.
>>288883053Truly a generational fumble by the genius mangaka
I hate people who are born attractive and with a network of people in the industry who think they have talent, so it was really hard to relate to anyone.
>>288883224She also is a reincarnation of a dead hospitalized girl who was a fan of her own mom.She struggles throughout most of the series then suddenly becomes really good at singing and acts in the lead of a movie that wins critical acclaim.The thing is though all her success she is probably just not that well off.
>>288883224Even Akane and Kana are basically considered to be the best actresses ever but Ruby still has to swoop in and play the leading role in the bio pic about her mom ,I guess because she needed an excuse proudly display the love for her brother
Remember this shit?
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Ruby is so tight
Does Ruby even have a drive in life that is not trying to be a copy of her mom?
>>288875447the author give me worst ending (bcs lost on apex legend) and i traumatized asf
>>288884629Translate this into English please.
>>288883224I also hate attractive and "talented" people but the show looked too good to pass up. So the feeling of disgust and "I can't relate to how good you leeches have it" eventually subsided. It might be one of the best looking anime of the 2020s. Also Memcho's antics and voice are really cute and funny.
>>288883675ruby only played the role because of gotandayou can say that's just plot armor or whatever but ruby didn't even know what the movie was about until gotanda got her in
>>288884869Didn't she also insist she HAD to be the one to play her mom, no one else could do it?>>288884717What about it looked great from every other idol show?
>>288883224It is okay both of the two leads are consumed with revenge and one ends up dead and the other likely will kill themselves soon enough.
>>288884903>Didn't she also insist she HAD to be the one to play her mom, no one else could do it?only after she got in by gotanda and by this point, shiranui was already gonna give up the role for her. She only needed to convince Akane to give it up
>>288885135Yeah she is an ass.
>>288885217and you also forget that she had a fallout with aqua and she was convinced that she was the only one who could take revenge for Ai so she needed to do thisshe was always gonna be the one to play Ai on the movie no matter what so there's no point in complaining about itthis was the story about ruby and aqua, not about kana and akane
>>288885264Ruby is a Mary sue
>>288885346both twins were born as mary sue, anonboth twins had talent, looks and connections
>>288885352Yeah but at least Aqua was gonna probably retire the second he got his mom's killer locked up.
>>288885537nobody knows what would happen. Ruby wasn't really a mary sue, she was just someone that had overprotective people around hershe suffered the same loss as Aqua, had a shitty life before reincarnating, struggled to live a double life trying to take revenge and had a mental breakdown, etc etcshe wasn't perfect, she just had people protecting her at all times
>>288885572She is a top idol and got to star in the biggest bio piece in Japan in the year.
>>288885605thanks to the people around her, not because of her efforts alonea mary sue is someone that never fails, does everything perfectly, she's better than everybody else and never suffers any consequencesruby failed a lot
Is there a translation of Asgykk's doujin yet?
>>288885721The show already pushed on the incest. Is this anything different?
>>288885800it's just incest but explicit, sex and everything
>>288885800Ruby gets pregnant with Aqua's baby and gets an abortion
>>288885963kys akanepig
>>288885991I'm a kanigger
>>288886001
>>288886034oh yes baby
Anime original ending and my favorite girl will win
>>288886210The ending broke me and I felt like shit for a few days
>>288886220really? we were just laughing about it here
>>288886231Yeah I don't know why I got so into this series, I really shouldn't do that, it's always a recipe for disaster if you don't detach yourself.
>>288886245I was attach to the series but thanks to Ai so I felt like shit after watching episode 1I guess to Ai being dead already made me not care too much about the ending. I like the idea of Aqua dying too, it was just a bad execution
>>288886263>died an incel twice>not gonna reincarnate againrough
>>288886302Actually disregard that>died an incel>reincarnate as the most handsome man on earth>die a volcelbased as fuck
>>288886302>died an incel twiceJust once. He was basically a volcel the second time around.
>>288875447I don't understand what you are even complaining about.So you want the main cast to be vtuber idols instead of real life idols because according to you they are more famous?
>>288886302>>288886320>>288886327he actually fucked some girls when he was a doctor tho. He was always fooling around before he met Sarina
>>288886359That is just fact anon.
>>288886220Like 2 months for me>>288886231Stfu fucking liar
>>288886595>Stfu fucking liarI was literally here every week after season 1 endedeveryone were having a blast with the ending and only akanefags were celebrating
>>288886359They should get seiyuu roles in a popular anime or Japanese dub a mega hit show like the amazing digital circus
>>288886605well your memory is poor because that's not what happened, the prevailing sentiment was anger towards Aka for writing a thoughtless and flippant ending and frustration that we'd gotten invested in it.>only akanefags were celebratingbecause the last 3 akanefags who still came to the general at that point were literal mentally ill freaks who just interpreted whatever happened as their victory
>>288886756well, we also hated the ending and hacka but we also laughed because of how retarded it was
memcho won btw
>>288886500Well that's just a dumb complaint, like reading One Piece and getting annoyed that they aren't ninjas instead because you like ninjas more over pirates.
>>288886595>Like 2 months for meIt made me start drawing oshi no ko fan art and upload it to twitter and to this day I still do that. I'm absolutely mentally ill.
>>288886995post one of your drawings
>>288887003okay but don't laugh
>>288887035that wasn't as bad as I thoughtstill, fuck kanashit
>>288886908The show is all about pirates though. Oshi No Ko opened itself up by having efame be important at all.
>>288886995I spent so much time daydreaming about an alternate ending that I started writing it down out of necessity to keep track of everything, and I have nearly a complete manuscript for like 10 manga chaptersI was thinking about drawing it but I kind of don't care enough anymore
>>288887118>I was thinking about drawing it but I kind of don't care enough anymorejust ask chatgpt to do it
>>288887143
>>288887118Share me your alternate ending ideas.
>>288887118You can just post an abbreviated outline here and let someone else finish it.
>>288887168>>288887174iiaaa da hazukashii
>>288875447I dont get idol culture in general.
>>288887236さっさと貼ってやれ最近OCなんて見なくなっちゃてさ
>>288887236Don't be a fag I posted my drawing
>>288875447Tbf Ai is the ONLY famous idol in-universe. Even the other B-Komachi hoes are all nobodies, and Ruby's entire subplot is trying to catch up to her mom. Ai really was her.
>>288888548>and Ruby's entire subplot is trying to catch up to her mominstead of trying to surpass whoever came next to fill the void (seemingly nobody did). Shame, we could've had some idol rivalry kino.
>>288888555there was an idol rivalrybut Ruby mogged the fuck out of her "rival" lmao
>>288875676NGO is not a vtuber, which shows that the creattor doesn't understand anything.All the mentally ill people have been using virtual models for half a decade and yet the story still talks about makeup and wigs.
>>288888564Who, Kana?
>>288888595yeah
>>288875915>memcho is considered a massive success on YouTube despite not even hitting 500K subsWhat, you want her to be motherfucking pewdiepie?>and then he has Pieyon be managed by an agency when YouTubers rarely do that anymore because it was stupidLmao. They make you THINK they're not managed by an agency.
>>288888601Kana had her own gig not related to idoling so it doesn't count. There could've been a real Ai/B-Komachi killer for Ruby to defeat, but there never was.
>>288888644>Kana had her own gig not related to idoling so it doesn't countand she got mogged hard in that as well lmao
>>288888610>What, you want her to be motherfucking pewdiepie? Maybe AVGN would be nice.
>>288888862Or even someone like Vannamelon
>>288888651Yeah but at least her competition deserved it
In my opinion, Aqua and Ruby are the best relationship in this anime. (Oshi No Ko)
>>288890861It is pretty much the closest to canon. I mean they played their parents they basically want to be seen as it but Japan probably has some anti-incest laws
>>288890861She is the first anime girl who I think would fuck me so that makes me feel awkward.
>>288888651Kana made it to hollywood at the end
>>288891980Yeah it is this constant bipolar glorification and condemnation of traditional media industries that made this manga a hard sell.
>>288892255It's painted as the best thing in the world you could possible do but it has le dark side!!! It honestly just made me jealous of them being rich, good looking and having the most fun job there is at the same time, so what if the older dudes want to fuck them
>>288892293It feels very confusing because it still seems like it is setting up Ruby to have a substance abuse problem, but this manga feels less concerned about exploring anything resembling real human emotion and just wanting to be a wish fulfillment manga with some tragedy to justify it.I mean Aqua is barely a character. He is just a revenge plot in the shape of a person.
>>288875447I really enjoyed all the incest porn of the twins from this show. Should I actually give it a watch?
>>288892396Do you like wishfulfillment slop and idol anime?
>>288892354Ruby is gonna kill herself to join her brother and her mother
>>288892433It would have been beautifully ironic to have Ruby hang herself at the end.
What pissed me off is that the conflict was resolved at the end, Hikaru was gonna turn himself in, but suddenly he became bad again just to have Aqua kill himself. I didn't even need for him to end up with anyone, just not an ending where everyone ends up worse.
>>288892396Eh. The actual thing is just suffering porn. Don't bother unless you like watching everyone be miserable.
>>288892490It is also lots of wishfulfillment though. It is just both constantly
>>288892481>just not an ending where everyone ends up worse.But their careers skyrocket as a result.
>>288892605>careers are more important than loveWhat did Akasaka mean by this?
>>288892621That is what Ruby tells herself at the end yeah
>>288892680Is it me or at some point Ruby realized that the idol world is awful and the ending made it seem like she will be miserable having to pretend to put on a smile while suffering and enduring the shit work? And now she has no family left, everyone is dead and her previous family doesn't love her.Maybe the message was revenge bad or something?
>>288892779Ruby and Aqua do not feel like real people desu.Do you think they can hold a conversation that does not inevitably tie back to their mom?
>>288892965Aqua is both a caring person supposedly and also an edgy Light Yagami wannabe, I liked that Ruby at least was in love with her doctor.
bump
>>288875787I was disappointed with the actors who played Aqua and Ruby.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oP2ankDgCbU
There's just Kana lovers and Kana haters, the other characters are irrelevant.
>>288895692Oh they made B-Komachi a real thingAlso how is the live action series I heard it cut out nearly everything.
>>288896024I assume this is something for the live action show
>>288895692This proves OP right this is the highest view count and it is only 5 million views. The other vidoes cannot even break the million mark.
>>288892965Tbf their mom is what brought them together in both lives.
>>288896947Ironically, just like in the original work, many people watched it because she—who was already a celebrity—was starring in it.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMHJuzTfPn4And Japanese people know that 90% of live-action adaptations fail.
>>288897121What is this MV about? Also why do they keep making them then?The only thing I am confused about is why they rushed the live action series to only be 8 episodes long.
>>288897312>Takopi's Original Sin
>>288896947She worked to be less notable than a Minecraft YouTuber.Sad!
>>288887035Very cute Kana, keep at it anon!
>>288883064Good observation. Macross pulls from popular and up-and-coming talent when they start production so it'll be interesting to see how current culture affects the new series.
>>288898695Thank you anon, that means a lot
>>288900116You did a great job.
