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Worst Protags in Shonen
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>>288879095
Eren
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>>288879095
This dumb bastard for spawning all of them.
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Short list, huh?
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>>288879886
What'd he do?
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>>288879095
Haven't read/seen any of the others but deku seems hard to top. Hero academia in general is garbage from the get go tho
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>>288879315
He didn't spawn shit, the retarded writers took all the wrong lessons from him and the author
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>>288879095
Eren Yeiga
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>>288880023
>>288880040
People are still defending this writing years later
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>>288880040
No, Part 2 Denji is irredeemable shit.
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>>288879958
>Haven't read/seen any of the others
Good.
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top 3:
1. Eren
2. Deku
3. the jjk guy
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>>288879095
Meliodas impregnated a Baddie, the other 3 are virgin cucks
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>>288880310
*Meliodas impregnated a Baby
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>>288880040
Based Luffy, Tanjiro and Ichigoat
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>>288879095
Tanjiro, Asta and Tsuna.
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>>288880008
Still trash in his own right.
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>>288880781
Tanjiro hate is the biggest red flag a human can have
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>>288879902
Lost his status as an MC because he couldn't follow basic instructions.
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>>288879095
Worst one was Natsu. It's like Mashima didn't even want to try. He just knew dumb muscle headed battle loving hero directly copying from everything before him is a instant cash cow.
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>>288880781
>Asta
>born to poverty
>worked hard and donated his earnings to the church that raised him
>became King by his own hand
Be gone, peasant.
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>>288881401
>you forgot had his hand held by everyone like a special Ed kid on a make a wish foundation and got the most broken plot armor ability to break the plots magic system. And didn't score in the end.

Even Deku is more based than midget knight Naruto.
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>>288881432
Keep crying, Dekuck
>didn't score
Noelle and/or Mimosa will fix that.
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>>288879095
The Wistoria/Bell Cranel type of Character writing is the Worst one.
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>>288879095
Why is Meliodas on this list? He's not that great but I'd hardly consider him on the list of worst protags - he's cool, powerful, gets the girl, and doesn't have any "pathetic" moments. Kind of basic but his worst crime would be being a bit boring which is not a very unique thing as far as anime protags go. Strange inclusion, his adaptation sucking doesn't really effect his character
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>>288881614
Are you even familiar with the scene his frame in OP is from?
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>>288881642
It's been a while since I read the series but looks like he's holding baby elizabeth, refresh my memory?
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>>288881716
>he's holding baby elizabeth
and declaring her his woman, that's correct. And remember, dude is 3000+ holding a newborn.
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>>288881767
And that newborn is the reincarnation of his waifu who keeps dying over and over, and he keeps finding her just to watch her die over and over in his quest to break her reincarnation loop, so what's the problem here exactly
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>>288881819
>But, your honor, she loved me in a past life!
Well, in this life, she's a baby, my nigga. GIVE 'EM THE CHAIR!
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>>288881889
Oh so you just blew in from stupid town, I understand this thread now.
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>>288881938
At least I didn't fly in from the island.
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>>288879095
i like that natsu is a bad protag because its intentional and the rest of the cast can have time to shine without being drowned out by a gary stu.
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>>288882171
>its intentional
I fail to see how that makes it better.
>the rest of the cast can have time to shine without being drowned out by a gary stu
Hades' defeat should've belonged to Laxus, none of that "LEND ME YOUR POWER" bs.
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>>288880040
Natsu be like
>DID YOU LAUGH AT MY GUILD? I'LL CURBSTOMP YOU MYSELF!
>Enemy: “Yourself”? How hypocritical. *curbstomps instead*
>*flashback ensues, followed by an asspull*
>HERE'S FOR LAUGHING AT MY FRIENDS!
>Enemy: Impossible! How did you get this power?
>I DON'T FUCKING KNOW NOR DO I FUCKING CARE! GET REKT!
dokkan.
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>>288881372
was he the mc or lucy?
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>>288882348
Lucy's the bimbo damsel who falls for him just because.
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>>288881819
Kek
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>>288881401
Asta is a screaming annoying retard who wants to become Pirate King Hokage. Nothing about his character is engaging, likable or original.
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>>288881487
> Noelle and/or Mimosa will fix that.
> Left them both and never was shown a hint impregnating them so he's a self made cuck

At least there was a fucking hint of deku plowing ochako in the future
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>>288880997
>super
Tried using the canon og next time.
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>>288881614
Have you forget that he's a nasty perv?
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>>288882635
>a fucking hint of deku plowing toga's sloppy seconds after 8 years of her doing god knows what with god knows who
Also, no such thing as a "self-made cuck."
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>>288882909
They're the HEROES. They're supposed to be POSITIVE influences on their target demographic.
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>>288882955
>>288882973
I did not say that. You CAN be attracted to the the opposite sex WITHOUT being rapey.
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>>288883017
Because I don't wanna root for a sex offender?
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>>288882909
p2 denji's problem isn't really being a perv. it's the fact that he's just a genuine loser. absolutely pathetic
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>>288883106
>You think a male teenager character being horny is enough to make him ''one of the worst protags of all time''
Again, THAT IS NOT WHAT I SAID.
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>>288883106
>Meliodas
>teenager
Heh, shows how much YOU know him.
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>>288882258
because its not supposed to be a serious series, most characters are joke characters
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>>288879095
Posting in a thread made by a subhuman Latinx goblino gordo who loves KnY & JJK and probably Frieren too.

Denji is the greatest battle shonen MC since Jolyne (or technically Johnny)
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>>288883217
I know that, I'm just pointing out how you referring to Meliodas as a teenager is humorous and clear sign of how little to not at all you know about him.
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>>288883221
>its not supposed to be a serious series
Then it shouldn't pretend to be either. Half of the regular threads prefer when it's more of a quirky office sitcom rather than feigning high stakes and character depth/growth.
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>>288883106
>i don't even know Meliodas
Then maybe you shouldn't be speaking on his behalf. Just saying.
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>>288881432
You just described Deku though
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>>288879095
Natsu and Denji are very good. Yuji from JJK and Asta from BC should absolutely be there in their place.
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>>288883826
t.
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>>288879095
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>>288882332
Post a time this happened. Just one time.
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>>288879095
Wait. Are those...shonen boys?
Goku? Cute
Luffy? Cute
Gon? Cute
Naruto? Cute
Ichigo? Cute
Yugi? Cute
Tanjiro? Cute
Deku? Cute
Asta? Cute
Melodias? Cute
Natsu? Cute
Denji? Cute
Yuji? Cute
Senku? Cute
Okarun? Cute
Chihiro? Cute
Ichi? Cute
Kiyoshi? Cute
Kinato? Cute

Shounen boys are cute. CUTE!
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>>288879095
How could you not include Haru from the timeflop Rave? He was canonically cucked.
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>>288883903
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>be me
>rereading Fairy Tail for the first time since the manga ended
>it's glorious
>this is what battle shounen is supposed to be
>am happy
The manga has no shortage of flaws, but having a fucking awesome cast of characters is not one of them. Fairy Tail is hype made manifest. It's fun as fuck.
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If you can't have fun with Natsu as your protagonist, you just don't like fightan manga.
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>>288883982
>He was canonically cucked
So were Kenshiro and Guts, and both were FAR better protags than the clowns in OP, and are still held in reverence here and in the greater anime community to this day.
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>>288883262
>horny subhuman who literally doesn't develop and falls for the same exact manipulation for 200+ chapters
>greatest shonen MC
lol
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>>288884029
>>288884056
That's my FUARKING hero...
>>288884065
No one holds Haru in reverance thoughbeit, he and his series was usurped completely and utterly by CHADtsu and his series.
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>>288883982
He also killed his cucker and married/impregnated his girl. Your point?
>>288884029
>>288884056
>>288884163
Nobody gives a shit about Temu Naruffy either.
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>>288884236
Let's just say he was very close friends with a certain powerful individual.
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>>288884227
I didn't say he was better than Haru. Rave is the best thing Mashima has ever written. But he's fun and brings the hype, and that's all you really need from the protagonist in a battle shounen manga.
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>>288884227
>Nobody gives a shit
I do.
>Temu Naruffy
KEK. Pic related.
Ravefags really have a chip on their shoulder over anything FT, huh? It's been 20 years, time to get over it.
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>>288884125
>subhuman spic cannot handle a tiny bit of realism and good writing in his shonen
I would crush your skull with my bear hands and instead of pink brain matter, stinky beaner shit would cone out.

Not even angry btw, just stating facts. You are genuinely less human than an ant is.
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>>288884236
some tourist and/or dbspic made this thread don't bother trying to understand
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>>288880040
>Denji is based, only redditors dislike him because he dared to be a straight man
At least 4 of the characters in your image canonically had sex with a woman, and Denji is not one of them.
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Poor OP went after our heroes and is getting thoroughly dismantled...
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>>288884452
>y-you don't understand! it's realistic to be the same retard you were at the beginning! why are you entertained?
I'm glad this shithole manga is a laughing stock now. nice threat though. really rustled my jimmies
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>>288884029
>this is what battle shounen is supposed to be
Umm, no. Battle shonen is not supposed to put more effort into the fanservice than the BATTLE.
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>>288883409
yup i agree, it was best as short jobs/adventures where all the high stakes were for the people dumb enough to hire them to help
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>CTRL+F "Tsuna"
>one result

You guys are babies
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>>288884320
>Ravefags really have a chip on their shoulder over anything FT, huh? It's been 20 years, time to get over it.
It's really just one fag, the OP. He's been having a mother of all meltys for a good few months now, he's been absolutely assblasted by the anons in FT threads on repeat. Most Rave fans understand and are fine with being Mashima's #2.
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>>288879095
Meliodas is a beloved king who has fallen in love with his own archnemesis and ended up impregnating her, he doesn't belong to this list.
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>>288884654
Proof? How do you know it's not just some other anon who happens to dislike Natsu? Every idiot protag has as many haters as they do fans.
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>>288883826
> Natsu and Denji are very good

Bull fucking shit, ones a provocative violent man child savage whos hypocritical about not allowing anyone but himself to face threats and the other is Japanese Venom + Deadpool hybrid but twice as cringe.
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>>288884029
>>288884056
>>288884163
>>288884227
>>288884320
>Calls this peak Shonen
>Fraud ripoff token Shonen man baby stealing lines from Naruto, Luffy, Tsuna, Edward, Yusuke etc

Please don't reproduce.
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>>288880040
Dennis was at least serviceable for part 1, if not good. Sadly part 2 exists.
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>>288884889
>provocative violent man child savage
I will now read your manga.
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>>288881531
Based
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>>288883095
The Most funny antihero of all.
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>>288884299
Who invited that brat?
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>>288884967
This one is better
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>>288884996
>Denji the cuckfraud
>Pic related
You people got no taste.
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>>288884299
>>288884320
The Duality of Fan
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>>288884937
>Please don't reproduce.
I've always used protection. I also have an incredibly low sperm count. :(
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by the third season I just wanted deku to die
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>>288884625
That's because he was cool, except for all the times he wasn't.
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>>288879095
Can't speak for Deku because I haven't read his series but the others are not even close to the worst. Also Natsu is hilarious, he's one of my favorites. He's like the 'man literally too angry to die' meme and canonically his magic gets stronger and his fire burns hotter the angrier he gets. I can't help but love a guy who weaponizes his tard-rage.
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>>288885381
Don't tell us about your gay sex fantasy
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>>288885564
Natsu is just The Hulk/Luffy but more a man baby friendship faggot, and he's a spotlight hogging Marty stu
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>>288885851
>he's a spotlight hogging Marty stu
This >>288882258
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>>288885851
>>288885947
Good for me that I love him so more Natsu is always welcome. I know the JJK guy rocks pink hair too but he always looked like a faggy temu Natsu so I didn't bother with his series.
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>>288880781
>Tanjiro
He might be bland but he's not outrageous in any way.
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>>288884889
>>288886156
Venom I can see the similarity, but don't EVER compare him to The Pool.
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>>288881432
Correct.
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>>288885564
>man literally too angry to die
He already died once and decided that was enough.
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>>288882258
>Hades' defeat should've belonged to Laxus, none of that "LEND ME YOUR POWER" bs.
I just read that arc last night and Hades was beaten by consecutive attacks from Lucy, Wendy, Gray, Erza, and Natsu. It's quite possibly the least "Natsu stole all the glory" fight in the entire manga up to that point. Also, as great as Laxus showing up when he did was, him beating Hades alone wouldn't have been anywhere near as cool as him casually 1v5ing Raven Tail.
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>>288886149
And Natsu himself is a faggy temu Naruffy. Your point?
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>>288886248
But Natsu doesn't want to be Ninja/Wizard Wagie or Pirate/Wizard King. I love talking about Natsu so let's discuss the similarities outside of all the tropes 90% of the Goku clones share.
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>>288886215
SNAP BACK TO REALITY

Also, bonding with a rabid creature to survive doesn't sound like Venom to you?
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>>288886149
> faggy temu Natsu
> the biggest faggy Temu Natsu is Natsu him

At least Yuji is smart and acts like a beliable young adult.
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>>288886283
Natsu wants to be the strongest whatever Shonen wizard retarded master or whatever the same principle applies to him as Naruto and Luffy but more lazily written
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>>288886297
Like I said I haven't read JJK because the MC looks like a faggy Temu Natsu. But Natsu's not supposed to be a believable young adult, the other anon above who tried disparaging my hero Natsu by calling him a 'violent savage' isn't far off the mark. He was literally raised by a dragon, were you expecting him to be some refined gentleman?
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>>288884125
You misunderstand Denji's problem, it's not that he doesn't change, it that he actively regresses as a character. The worst part is that Fujimoto was aware of what he's writing and was actively laughing at the reader
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>>288886362
>Natsu wants to be the strongest whatever Shonen wizard retarded master or whatever
Where does he say this? I might've missed that chapter somehow but now I'm curious to learn more about my hero Natsu. Of course he loves fighting, but so do the majority of MCs in a battle series.
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>>288886441
>>288886486
Eww Natsu wankers, thought they were a myth. Anyways fucking Pic related was way better than the rip off he was inspired by
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>>288886610
That was a quick concession. Always happy to talk about my hero Natsu though. I've pinned the thread so I'll keep an eye on it if you want to pick up where we left off.
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>>288886486
>but so do the majority of MCs in a battle series.
It's mostly older battle shounen that have wakuwaku brainless mcs.
Yuji, Deku, Tanjiro, even Ichigo are not fightards, and I'm only mentioning the biggest ones.
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>>288881531
Yeah
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>>288879095
Naruto/Bort are worse than all of those by a mile.
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>>288880781
Tanjiro is fine
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>>288879315
Japanese version Goku is the worst out of all of them.
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>>288879095
Lucy is the protag of Fairy Tail tho
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>>288887563
Nope, that'd be Dubku. Superku is a close second, though.
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>>288880040
FAX
A
X
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>>288879095
Natsu is more of a mascot than a protagonist. He's basically a non-character so I can't even criticize him.
Denji is like an attempt to make Natsu a complex and multilayered person but I don't think it worked
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>>288880781
Tanjiro spent ONE night away from his home, only to return and find his family slaughtered brutally, with only his sister barely having a pulse.
So he holds on to that small hope and carries Nezuko down the mountain; from then on, he embarks on a mission to murder the demon who took away his family, cursed his sisters, and has caused so much pain to humanity, and he achieves it.

So fuck off, Deku fag, I know it's you.
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>>288881889
>>288881974
Kek, get your ass back to r*ddit, bitch.
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>>288884029
the one thing fairy tail did right was giving all its characters cool moments. even the fanservice characters like lucy and erza get cool moments.
that being said, it lacked a consistent direction for its story and each arc felt disjointed. probably just more like a random adventure series which isn't necessarily bad but it feels like the story is pointless/nonexistent.
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>>288882944
>heroes
They are protagonists. Even if they were heroes, have you seen what the og heroes like Heracles, Theseus, Jason etc did? They were not exactly always a morality role model.
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>>288887563
Give examples and use the canon og, none of that super shit.
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>>288888612
>it lacked a consistent direction for its story and each arc felt disjointed
agreed, the only time it felt like arcs were connected is when it went from the Lyon Arc, to Phantom Lord, the Loke mini-arc connecting it to Tower of Heaven, to Battle for Fairy Tail
those sort of felt like they flowed into one after the other at least to a small extent, the ones that came after sort of felt like they just appeared because Mashima needed the story to continue without setting them up much, I still like the majority of the story arcs as self-contained arcs, but they seem to be a bit random in the grand scheme
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>>288879095
Genuinely sad that Deku ended up the best of these 4
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>>288886610
>Phoneposter
>Fled the moment his HEADCANON was debunked
KWAB!
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>>288881531
Theres something about Bell that just annoys me. Which is weird because I don't mind good natured characters (like Tanjiro for example).

Maybe its just his cronic oneitis that bugs me.
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>>288884889
>and the other is Japanese Venom + Deadpool hybrid
Are you trying to make Denji look good or bad? I honestly can't tell.
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thread about shounen protagonists
everyone in the thread is a brown millennial
many such cases
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>>288889400
I like Jonathan from JJBA, but Shippuden Naruto and other good natured protags annoy me
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>>288879095
the correct answer is Meliodas
anyone still reading Nakaba slop in 2026 needs to be hanged and flayed
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Nothing wrong with Natsu or FT at all.
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>>288889444
well, all shippuden naruto does is whine about sasuke so...
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>>288889459
Natsu is boring and basic but hes harmless
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>>288884889
So what you're saying is Natsu and Denji are based?
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>>288881401
Hail to the king baby
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Why are so many shounen protags fight brained retards who don't feel like they can function if they're not going YEAAAAAAAAAAJ I LIKE FIGHTING!
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nanatsu bros we are just happy being mentioned
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>>288881642
You are obviously not really familiar ignoring the whole context
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>>288887585
I think you can group Natsu and Lucy together, Natsu's more what you'd expect the MC to look and act like while Lucy is the audience surrogate. The interesting thing with Natsu is none of the early arcs are really 'his' despite being the face of the franchise. The first real arc is the Eisenwald arc and that's more about setting up how jobs work, dark guilds and whatnot, and the formation of the main team ie Natsu, Lucy, Gray & Erza.

Then you have the Galuna Island arc which is all about Gray's backstory, his regrets with Ur, relationship with Lyon, Deliora etc. Phantom Lord delves into Lucy's past, her family troubles and everything surrounding that, and then Tower of Heaven is Erza's turn and her past trauma. Even further ahead with the Oracion Seis arc Wendy to an extent gets an arc. Natsu's backstory stays vague with just little tidbits like the barrier he couldn't exit in the Battle of Fairy Tail, his stuff with Igneel and Zeref doesn't really get explored until the end of Tartaros and Alvarez nearly some 50 volumes in.
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>>288879315
*he solos all of them
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>>288889517
worst shonen manga in existence, Nakaba should kill himself
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>>288889517
Him going full Dragonball mode was tge worst decision he has made
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>>288889517
Worst main cast in shonen
>but what abo-
Yes, including Redditscanor
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>>288889501
Those kinds of characters are easy to write and emotionally connect with. Shonen writers are too dumb to write more complex than that (and also they're locked in a basement, forced to draw 20 hours a day to finish a chapter every week, so it's hard to conceptualize more complex writing).
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>none of these manga are the ones I properly read
Feels good to be dropchad. Bring back axed endings.
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>>288889697
>Worst main cast in shonen
low test anons could never understand
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>>288880040
Eren doesn’t count since he got reduced like that and character assasinated last minute.
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>>288889781
>character assasinated last minute.
He doesn't. have you actually read AoT. i don't know if you are confusing the real thing with memes.
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>>288881614
>Why is Meliodas on this list?
Meliodas elevates the manga too much for common weebs to comprehend
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>>288889851
If he elevates anything why did King get the superior girl?
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>>288889756
Yes we get it. You and the other three disasters in the op all pull the 2 smart 4 u routine whenever these threads happen
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>>288889975
>2 smart 4 u
>low test
are you retarded by any chance?
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>>288881531
WHAT ? BELL IS MY HERO
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manga author
>i will now create an exaggerated expression for comedic relief
weebs on the internet
>this is what represents the manga and we will never stop posting it

you guys are living your best lives
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I came to defend the honor of my beloved Natsu-kun but others have already done the job more than adequately. Well done my friends.
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>>288888385
>Tanjiro spent ONE night away from his home, only to return and find his family slaughtered brutally, with only his sister barely having a pulse.
Too bad he has so little character because the author doesn't have the talent to do anything interesting about that and instead turns him into a generic cheery nice guy (which also makes him more unlikeable)
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>>288887585
>>288882375
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>>288884065
Don't forget Jonathan Joestar, Best JoJo.
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>>288889829
>yeah, this moment of character growth and development was always fake
>eren was always pathetic all along and was never meant to grow up
>self defense and not wanting to be genocided..lol he was just coping
>he really wanted to destroy the world and plap mikasa, nothing else mattered and he was always le monodimensional retard all along

Kill yourself you fucking secondary
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>hbeit
I knew it was a mentally ill retarded sharteen
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>>288890157
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>>288879095
Denji is a crude, dumb, loser but actually cries about being unloved, and it's sad young people of today think that's something to sympathize with. Throw one pity party and people will put you on the pedestal.
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>>288881122
Eh he already achieved a life goal, that's more than most people get.
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>>288890434
>>288883986
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>>288880781
All 3 are fine. Tanjiro is a bit soft but not against demons, which is really all that matters. Chadsta doesn't even need defending, you either never really read Black Clover or are an anime only that watched 1 episode. Tsuna? I barely remember shit about Katekyo Hitman but I really don't remember the MC being anything but generic and fine. I do remember his character progressing heavily from being a little bitch over the course of the series.
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>Chadsta
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>>288890519
"He cried, he lost his friends, he deserves it!" Bullshit, get some character development and improve yourself and you can get a girlfriend, friends, and save the world.
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>>288886149
>JJK guy rocks pink hair too but he always looked like a faggy temu Natsu
It's the awful haircut I think.
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>>288887922
>Natsu is more of a mascot than a protagonist.
good point, he gets pulled into the spotlight once in a while to give traditional hotblooded MC energy and doesnt get forced into going out of his role really
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Yuji is barely a protagonist. Gaygay is such a hack.
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>>288890703
Both are faggy temu Naruto, down to having their own off brand Sasuke (cool, black-haired frienemy) and Sakura (useless, naggy bitch).
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>>288890584
>Tanjiro is a bit soft but not against demons, which is really all that matters
He wasnt soft against his superiors either
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>>288890939
Your argument has already been dismantled here >>288886283 and >>288886486. This anon here >>288886610 already threw in the towel, unless...
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>>288890939
lol Mashima was literally saying, "Hmm, how can I make my characters more unique? *swaps Naruto and Sakura's hair colors* PERFECT!"
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>>288882332
>>288891269
Why do you type like that?
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>>288883982
KEK did he pop a boner? Why do authors humiliate their MCs like this?
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>>288891269
Don't forget, it was also nice of him to give his Sakura a much needed boobjob.
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>>288890663
Why bother when you can get character regression, degenerate, and lose your friends, girlfriend and fuck the world over instead?
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>>288879095
Natsu isn't protagonist of Fairy Tail, Lucy is.
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>>288891545
Chainsawman is about an incel?
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>>288891582
Is that why she keeps jobbing and needing Natsu to save her sorry (and fine) ass?
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>>288891723
World ended just before he got the sexo. Fujimoto has a sick sense of humor
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>>288891723
ye
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>>288880040
Gabimaru was a good protagonist
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>>288891789
Asa was a stand in for the entire CSM fanbase that chapter
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>>288880040
Denji is alright. However, part 2 really fucked up the stakes and just reset the world so it all feels meaningless.
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>>288891813
My man when he goes to a sushi restaurant
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>>288891835
Imagine playing defense for Denji even outside the schizo csm general
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>>288880040
How big is Tanjiros dick to be that much of a chad
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>>288891894
Sure, we believe you
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>Open thread
>Half the posts are are seething about fucking Natsu

Fucking how? He's quite possibly the most inoffensive character I can think of. And it seems like it's all the same guy, the fuck did Natsu do to him?
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>>288880997
>Alien doesnt act exactly like a human
Wow
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>>288891918
Vegeta is from the same alien species, and he knows what a kiss is.
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>>288891915
Intimidated by his girth
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>>288891915
Long story short OP has been seething about Natsu for a few months now in every FT thread because Gray loves Juvia but OP self-inserts as Gray and wants him to be with Lucy. Problem is Natsu's love interest is Lucy so you see his dilemma? Yes it's fucking nuts but that's what we're dealing with at the minute.
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>>288880366
That's a crime. How can a baby raise another baby?
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>>288891947
Goku hitting his head as a kid is a more viable explanation for his strange behavior.
He's clearly not all there
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>>288879902
Threw everything to shit for a dumb rage moment to avenge a retard he has know for less than one week.
>acshually in the first pages
>y-you missed the first part...!
I don't care what niggerxniggerfags say, that was dumb as fuck, Gon has gone full retard to the point to say to Killua to go fuck himself, his best and super gay friend who's literally risked his ass for him multiple times, while Kaito was just the background of a background character.
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>>288891915
>>288891983
>ONLY ONE GUY HATES MUH FAURKIN DUMBASS HERO!
>>288884721
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>>288892032
Zero (0) people hate my FUARKIN HEROOOO, not even you OP. You're just a cute little tsundere.
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>>288892022
Nigger he saved his life like 3 or 4 times on top of telling him his dad was alive and a hunter, it was a pretty reasonable crashout
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>>288892022
Kaito meant more to Gon than Killua because he's associated with his quest to find his dad.
I'm the end Killua is just one of many, many friends that Gon has made, there's nothing special about him to Gon, which causes their dilemma and Killua ultimately choosing his family over Gon
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>>288879095
Why are Natsu and Melodias supposed to be bad?
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>>288880040
>Ichigo
FUCKING BASED
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>>288891983
>annoying dumb muscle headed man baby friendship faggot lands 11/10 baddie
I'm not into shipping, but that sounds like a legit reason to hate a character to me.
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>>288892273
Lucy's a very, very lucky girl.
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>>288892360
Oh yeah, I'm SOOOOO jealous of her.
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>>288886643
>>288887922
>>288888612
>>288889133
>>288889382
>>288889459
>>288889480
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>>288890068
Cope, Natsu sucks and is lame and gay.
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>>288892167
>Nigger he saved his life like 3 or 4 times on top of telling him his dad was alive and a hunter, it was a pretty reasonable crashout
And? He's still a fuckin npc, it's not like he had a strong bond or something with him.
>Kaito meant more to Gon than Killua because he's associated with his quest to find his dad.
Hahaha pitiful as fuck, can't you just be honest and admit once and for all that the crashout was only an excuse to make a cool rage moment?
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>>288891201
>>288891380
>>288891582
>>288891752
>>288891915
>>288891983
>>288892235
>>288892273
>>288892360
>Natsu is a the best protagonist
> Pic related is superior as a protagonist, and strength wise.

A copy paste punch to win ripoff Shonen factory produced hero is as gay as his pink hair.
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>>288892518
>>288892617
>gay
Ain't that the truth.
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>>288891959
>Huge dragon
>He be smaller than this fucking kid.
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>>288892546
>saves Gon's life when he was ~7
>tells him about hunters and his dad being alive, setting him on his quest
>meets him years later while on said quest
>saves him again
>gives his life saving him (and his best friend) once more, hours after the previous time
>hurrr why was Gon griefing?
Don't be retarded
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>>288887585
>>288882375
>>288891582
>>288891752
Shit, maybe Lucy should be in OP then.
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>>288891959
>his girth
https://files.catbox.moe/gjh9g4.jpeg
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>>288883095
Denji is the goat
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>>288891780
>Fujimoto has a sick sense of humor
More that he is a retard
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>WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH WHY DOES THIS THREAD HATE OUR HEROES?!
Ask Google AI. Hell, just read the posts here.
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>>288888888
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>>288889851
>trannies really think like this
Xis.....
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>>288891915
>take the worst traits of Naruto and Luffy and add them to an ugly gremlin character design and btw he’s also teh bestest evar
Gee I wonder
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>>288893845
>topic of thread
If only that were true.
>>288893104
>>288891752
>>288882375
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>>288893984
Also to add, Natsu ain't all that strong without his flame magic. Luffy is raw demi God of strength and does near toon force level of power with his base levels.
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>>288893959
Wait, now trannies LIKE 7DS? What's the narrative here again?
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>>288879095
Natsu being Natsu is part of why I always felt his series would be better with Erza in the lead role. And just as with Christ and the Elders, his fanbois hated me for telling the truth.
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>>288879095
>no tsunayoshi from hitman reborn
fundamentally wrong
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>>288879095
What was the impetus behind this thread?
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>>288892032
Isn't it weird how every time someone says it's literally just one guy doing this there's always exactly one reply to that asking for proof? You'd think there would be several, especially when it's not the FT thread, but even here it's still one person.
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>>288895458
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>>288895378
Where's chapter one of your fanfic, you lazy piece of shit? You can't even write ONE chapter of a Fairy Tail-based story? At least Mashima does something, you're just an ideas guy, and even those suck.
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>>288879095
We could have had a million Hokuto no Ken clones if not for this flaming faggot ruining everything and diverting the timeline.
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>>288895512
What did he do?
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>>288895553
He actually came BEFORE Kenshiro. >>288895512 was most likely talking about >>288879315.
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>>288895553
>Jobbed to monsters
>Jobbed to Choujin
>Jobbed to a pig
>Flies by farting
>Tells Dad jokes
>Got old and gristled
>Son is less of a jobber somehow

Comedy fucking ruined shonen manga.
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>>288879315
You’re overestimating his influence imo. But if influence is culpability then the real worst of all would be journey to the west and Superman. Because Goku was just a combination of the two. Dragon Ball is honorary capeshit.
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>>288895059
Only retarded troons could like that dreck
Since they are mentally ill and a statistical defect
Just like 7DS
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NnTZ defense force has arrived.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxlysqrFjHo
best characters
best fights
best romances
best manga art style
best anime (first season)
best video games
most wholesome
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>>288896235
2015 bros were we at. 7DS was the next big thing. in my heart it still is.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YdYWuwgSBg
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>>288889483
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i mean you are all hating but guess who just got a huge genshin clone open world rpg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0KpSVLOaNs
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>>288879095
How dafuq has this lil turd not been posted till now? Should've been FPBP!
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>>288896296
>>288896639
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>>288880040
Naruto is pretty fucking bad with ''Forgive your enemies'' bs. Remember when the sand people attempted a coup and aided Orochimaru in killing the Hokage? Fuck it, they're best friends now. You know what, just blame it all on Danzo. Fuck that guy!
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>>288895512
Don't insult my nigga Suguru like that
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>>288897011
i feel like most here just don't acknowledge boruto's existence or completely forgot about him or just never bothered to watch/read boruto.
but yes, i agree with you. idk if boruto ever got better but i found it stupid how all the characters had to become incompetent whenever boruto was around just so boruto could do something.
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>>288883903
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>>288897431
Nobody here mentioned Geto.
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>>288897330
Nakama fags, this is your legacy.
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>>288891918
Goku has been living as a human in the Earth for 40 years, his retardation in Super has no justification.
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>>288883903
>JJK lost
Meanwhile . . . >>288898200
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>>288896635
BASED! Natsu deserves it.
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>>288898164
What do you mean?
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>>288897644
>Black Dragon is a wet fart
That's referring to Acnologia?
>NaJu are insufferable tards
Is that a typo for NaLu?
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It's so rare to find a Kaneki in shounen, a MC where you actually care about and it's written in a good way with a good ending
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>>288898754
>it's written in a good way with a good ending
Wish we could say the same for the anime.
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>>288889400
He's not like this in the anime, is a pain in the ass to see him on screem at the point i really wanted the Juggernaut to turn him into mush.
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>>288883948
faggot
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>>288892770
Again, he's still a fuckin npc no matter how you force the "hero who saved my life once" and "he set my journey" themes, he was completely obliterated from his story for years, trying to turning Kaito like some kind of older brother is even more retarded. And again, he wasn't so important to make Gon go even against Killua who he developed a strong bond and had all his adventures with.
I like hunterxhunter, but ffs don't come to me to say that Gon actions in chimera ant were justified, even if you try to make it pass like the retarded rant of an agry kid, it still remains a pathetic plot and character development
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>>288898690
>That's referring to Acnologia?
Yep
>Is that a typo for NaLu?
Actually supposed to be short for Natsu and Juvia.
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>>288890006
Like Wistoria's protagonist, is a pain in the ass.
There's nothing special about him; all the girls are crazy about him, including that crazy goddess. He has no common sense and is willing to help those who want him to let them die. He literally turns red when a girl is even half a meter away from him and always runs away. He's pretty flat, idiotic, cheesy, and charisma-free, like 97% of all the idiots in his anime.

Literally, the only good things about this anime are the dungeon, the monster designs, the Xeno family, and that elf Ryuu.
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>>288895498
Chaoter 1, Erza destroys a monster and saves children and a girl her age and convinces them to join Fairy Tail.
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We need Characters like Sunraku and Hallow from Versus.
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>>288879095
There's only one real answer.
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>>288899212
Anon, time doesn’t represent how close you are to someone. People can care for someone they only know for a day or two more than someone they spent ten years with.
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>>288899638
I love how, unlike all the other characters in this thread, Hallow, even with his noble and heroic spirit, sees before his very eyes that no human being can defeat their natural enemy, no matter how powerful the protagonists become.
He does so in the most painful and overwhelming way possible, enough to make him tremble in horror before the Demon King Jachi.
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>>288889851
Literally what i said, he's the worst.
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>>288900034
I agree, even a common weeb should be able to understand a protagonist's story, and Meliodas preventing that makes him terrible.
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>>288899856
Sounds like a kwab
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>>288899834
>People can care for someone they only know for a day or two more than someone they spent ten years with.
That's when you talk about love, are you implying that Gon was turbogay for Kaito now??? Look, I just give up, I can't fight against sheer autism and low standards. Let me just tell you that this way of thinking isn't any better of a snkfag or a one piecefag, you're exactly on their same level.
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>>288899856
on hindsight we know he was kind of unlucky because jachi is just insanely powerful even by demon lord standards.
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>>288900353
kek
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>>288900511
Kinda like the idea of Versus, Humans can't defeat their NEs, but these NEs can kill each other.

Furthermore, if Jachi had fought against the King of the Giants, Ginbak, he would surely have died.
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>>288899555
Lmao and accurate.
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>>288899691
Based Mc because he's paired with most iconic female tsundere on earth
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>>288900974
I just love how this is like 13 Shounens put together into one.

Think about it: A shonen manga is essentially a threat that has plagued humanity for centuries, and then some kind-hearted person gains an overpowered ability that allows them to fight against that threat.

In Versus, there are 13 different threats and 13 different humanities that merge simultaneously in a chaotic world. Since humans can't defeat their threats, they come up with the idea of making these threats kill each other.

And yes, there are some incredibly overpowered "mc" in each of these worlds, but they aren't our 2 protagonists; they belong to a special battle line that appears later in the manga.
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>>288883982
Dio also cucked Jonathan
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>>288891723
He could have fucked Himeno and Fumiko whenever he felt like it. So he's more like a volcel
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>>288879315
I'll say it again because it's the truth; Goku being a dumbass only worked when he was just a kid living in the wild.
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>>288891380
What's exactly the biggest threat im fairy tail?

This versus thing was interesting, also never see the anime because is to cheesy.
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>>288901653
>the biggest threat im fairy tail
Acnologia, The Black Dragon who wiped out his own kind and ultimately jobbed like a wittle bitch to Power of Friendship because Mashima is that much of a hackfraud.
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>>288900974
Some humans can deal with NEs though. Initially it seemed they couldn't even deal with the base level fodder, but Hallow, Gigatila and his crew, and Bastz have turned out to be pretty damn strong.
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>>288901738
Anon, that was already said:
>>288901271
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>>288901703
No match for the 13 factions then?
The Power of Friendship thank god doesn't work in this manga.
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>>288886643
Yep, Natsu won.
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>>288901761
tldr
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>>288901823
...the award for Worst Protagonist in Shonen.
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Power of Friendship is based and I will not pretend otherwise
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>>288881531
>>288901271
>>288901781
Apparently, the greatest threat in Danmachi is the Dungeon and the Monsters it generates, some of which are literally colossal beasts capable of unleashing disasters of biblical proportions.
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>>288901904
...in opposite world.
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>>288901969
...on opposite day.
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>>288901703
>>288901937
The main characters in these anime/manga are so bad that the threats they face are much more interesting than they, their stories and friends are.
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>>288902086
...in the opposite universe.
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>>288901926
Depends on how it's used.
If you have said friends watching each other's backs and helping each other out to overcome the odds, yes, it's based.
If you just give your doofy mc a random asspull power boost simply from saying "I HECKIN LOVE FRIENDSHIP!" then please turn in your writing license.
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>>288901926
>>288902260
Here's your Power of Friendship
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>>288902295
Even though they were very loyal allies and friends, they fell to the Aliens.
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>>288902260
>If you have said friends watching each other's backs and helping each other out to overcome the odds, yes, it's based.
And that's why we all love our hero Natsu!

https://litter.catbox.moe/gdyqth.webm
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>>288901703
Is Natsu really a human?
In many places I saw it transform into a colossal Dragon Bahamut.
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>>288902322
Kaiju saved the day
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>>288879315
He himself said that he had killed him several times already.
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>>288880286
"Die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain."
I mean...?
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>>288902260
>If you have said friends watching each other's backs and helping each other out to overcome the odds, yes, it's based.
I am a big fan of Kinnikuman style friendship power as well, yeah
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>>288902569
Well, the Demons still lost to the Aliens anyway.
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>>288902625
?
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subaru
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>>288902927
Jachi used the power of friendship to beat the shit out of an alien
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>>288902099
Like Yeah.
Natsu have some kind of stupid Dragon-like... God... human things?
(Don't know if they are Demons or Mad God, but Ragna Crimson did this better)

Eren have misshapen giant hominids
(Basically The Giants but magical)

Deku Humans who have been mutated by the Quirk into horrendous monsters who are the Villains
(Neo-humans with eldritch superpowers)

Bell Cranel and The 4-eyes of Wistoria have a Dungeon full of Antibody-like DND Monsters
(Could be the Demons but aren't like)

Naruto mighty yokai gods
(Close to the Demons and their Lords)

Subaru all kind of Eldritch freaky witches and monsters
(Close to the Demons and their Lords... with some of Mad God)

Melodias have Demons, beasts, angels, and some wacky God-like freaks
(Close to the Demons and their Lords... with a lot of Mad God)

Ikari Shinji have Alien Angels of giant size and Eldritch nature
(Aliens with some of Mad God)

Goku deal mostly with Aliens and Foregin Gods

Denji have Demons more releated to human fears
(Unlike the Demons of Sorcerion who are more Dragonquest-like)
Honestly i like Denji more then the others up here.

And i don't know the NE of One Piece.
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>>288890412
>Eren was my based role model who wanted to genocide the planet to protect his people just like how I want to kill all non-white people
>He was obviously going to marry qt3.14 Aryan waifu Historia
>but instead the JEWS made Isayama make Eren pathetic and Historia get FARMED!
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>>288879095
surprised that they let the author finish the story
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>>288883948
>>288903427
Yuji has demons that look like yokai and have powers more akin to ghosts.
(Basically, these demons would truly embody the spiritual fear that this faction is supposed to represent)

Gon... i really don't know what these things really are.

Ichigo have Demon Yokais... Again... why this much hate to Yokai if most of them aren't even demons?

Tanjiro have the most Retarded Vampire-yokai-humans i ever seen.

Asta i suppose they are Magical creatures like the Demons

Senku have a much weaker version of Gaia's Wrath

Okarun is already ghost-like demons vs Aliens

Chihiro... why is she here, she just want to go back with her oversized Pig-turned parents, Spirited Away is not a Shonen.

Ichi, i don't know who this is.

Kiyoshi is the Same ghost-like demons as before.

Kinato i think are Undead army of Dark beings that control Necromancy?
(Demons also have something like this)
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>>288903609
And This Guy is a Mix of Aliens and Kaiju factions.
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>>288899592
Bait aside, it's funny because we both know that you literally can't actually write anything. There are literal kids who can smoke you just because they actually write something. Embarrassing, but not surprising.
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>>288903609
>Tanjiro have the most Retarded Vampire-yokai-humans i ever seen.
Lmao, but the Girls are cute, ngl
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>>288903744
Hey, I can't help it if I'm lazy at home and busy at work.
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>>288892418
Yeah, This guy is not a human in the least.
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>>288892418
We all are. She gets our hero Natsu after all.
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>>288904486
I laughed
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>>288903210
His best disciple was killed by aliens, and even knowing he would die, he decided to fight against enemies who were above him. Damn, this is better than anything from MCs here.
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>>288899638
Sunraku is also a pretty fun Character, no wonder Shangri-la frontier is know as the Better SOW.
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>>288897011
Nobody even cares about him, lol.
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>>288904751
Is SAO... ups.
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>>288903975
>I'm lazy
And talentless. And uncreative.
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>>288901926
It was good in FMAB
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>>288888612
This right here is an actual fact. If it weren't for the fact that the characters were handled so well, even when multiple fights are happening at once something Oda could REALLY learn from Fairytail would be absolute trash. But the characters being so vibrant allow me to ignore most of the other flaws the series has.
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>>288879095
everytime you make this shitty thread and ignore this >>288895431 only proves me right each time
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>>288903609
>Chihiro...why is she here
Kagurabachi not Spirited Away
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>>288899212
You make it sound like he stabbed Killua or something, he just lashed out and told him "you don't care as much as I do" which was true. You're a fucking retard or a sociopath if you don't understand how someone saving your life would make you feel indebted to them forever, let alone doing it on 3 separate occasions and getting killed in the process.
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>>288905058
No YOU are
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>>288902141
Which means Natsu sucks in the real and opposite world.
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>>288904486
This Bitch is a slut, Natsu might well die alone.
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>>288899638
She's cuter than Erza.
So sad she was roasted by Robots
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>>288905125
In the real world Natsu won all positive awards and lost all negative awards. He did the opposite in opposite world. I was at the award ceremony for all of them.
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>Chainsaw Man #12 (324,220) // 13 days
>Chainsaw Man #13 (403,488) // 12 days
>Chainsaw Man #14 (347,773) // 13 days
>Chainsaw Man #15 (259,504) // 10 days
>Chainsaw Man #16 (232,720) // 14 days
>Chainsaw Man #17 (198,804) // 11 days
>Chainsaw Man #18 (150,107) // 10 days
>Chainsaw Man #19 (146,153) // 12 days
>Chainsaw Man #20 (110,488) // 10 days
>Chainsaw Man #21 (101,082) // 10 days
>Chainsaw Man #22 (97,568) // 11 days
>Chainsaw Man #23 (120,096) // 12 days
Chainsaw Man #24 (123,843) // 11 days
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>>288905289
Wrong thread
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>>288905289
Smartest doomnigger on /a/
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>>288905442
I knew a Shart Poofag would be in this thread. Just giving you a little reminder
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>>288902322
Is it just me, or is this a reference to the final scene of 300?
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>>288904486
how's gonna melt he?
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>>288895753
A lot of Toriyama's writing was a tribute to Tezuka's. He intentionally made a much more amoral and action focused story to stack up against Tezuka's son goku.
.
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>>288893104
Isn't it kind of true that anime overuses this?
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>>288895753
>Dragon Ball is honorary capeshit.

I don't see what's so capeshit about an alien who came to earth from a doomed planet and became it's greatest protector.
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>>288903609
Okay, the name "Gaia's Wrath" suits this faction perfectly, and it sounds great too.
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>>288880060
The payoff is watching Hitler Jr being humiliated.
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>>288884511
Yoshida died btw
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>>288886471
>makes fun of the reader
>subverts expectations
>deconstructs tropes
Master Fuji is too based for this world.
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>>288890663
>just BEE yourself and get character development bro
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>>288889434
Ichigo really stands out as a good MC at the end of the day, at least relative to other shonen manga.
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>>288903451
>using strawman arguments instead of actual arguments
>use words and things i never said so he can fell “superior”

Pathetic.
Just as expected by someone who genuinely defend the final arc.
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>>288880040
Redditfaggots absolutely loved Denji because he's the epitome of the safe horny "DOMMY MOMMY UGUUUU" retards that comprise those ironic weeb retards.
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>>288899638
These Aren't bad MCs.
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>>288889829
I think it's funny how Eren being cucked caused more outrage than him becoming Hitler.
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>>288906557
>le based genocider was literally me
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>>288906578
Zoomers are into post-irony. Uncs will never understand.
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>>288905776
Lmao
https://youtu.be/ilknNpmqNoI?si=5b4Dpsm2F93O70QD
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>>288879095
Part 1 Denji is the best shonen protagonist since Gon
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>>288902295
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>>288907084
>The series was tragically left unfinished due to the passing of creator Ken Ishikawa.

Damn, this is why you must save your ideas...
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>>288883948
Mad God?
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>>288899638
>>288904751
Do Battle Mangas have good MCs?
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>>288907391
Ragna seems pretty decent to me
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>>288906661
It was just the icying cherry on the top. The whole final arc was bad.
Eren’s whole character getting reduced into a bumbling retard is just the last straw.
>>288906679
>if you continue calling him with buzzwards and strawmens i will surely win the discussion
Go back where you belong
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>>288906118
I love this artstyle, more in Metropolis 2001
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>>288907790
The Manga is actually good because they actually risk and break most of the most annoying tropes in these stories.

Like the "Happy victory"
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>>288908351
You really don't see it coming, and the whole cheesy happy atmosphere is destroyed in seconds amd turned into tragedy.
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>>288908367
I genuinely liked that this happened.
It was like a breath of fresh air.
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>>288879315
But shonen protags are so different from Z Goku it's an entirely dofferent archetype
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>>288908382
Yeah
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>>288905177
Yeah, Erza can be such a whore sometimes.
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>>288905136
This.
https://files.catbox.moe/vepoqd.jpeg
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>>288909202
>Cuck blacked porn
You've had a shocker here OP, an absolute shocker. Come back to the FT thread, we miss our resident idiot.

>>288901195
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>>288909236
Your temu Naruffy is NOT the Chad his author makes you think he is.
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>>288909357
You SCAMPERED off here. You know who wouldn't flee? MY hero Natsu!
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>>288907790
>>288908351
>>288908367
>>288908382
>>288908555
Impressive. I'll check it out if/when I get the chance.
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>>288909421
Not. Special. At all.
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>>288882873
Nigger, where do you think you are?
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>>288908382
Oh fuck, now I get why he did that By "killing" her for a split second he made it so she stopped being a target to the teleportation magic (you can see she stopped glowing) so if he failed to kill Ragna in those 10 seconds he could still use her as bait to lure him out later and make her make the silver comet. He only conceded to the poison thing later on because the fag dragon was furious
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>>288909504
Of course he's not the special legendary chosen one, he's just a boy who wants to laugh with his friends. But that's what makes him so heroic.
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>>288879095
Meliodas is one of the most based shounen protagonists in the medium. SEETHE faggot.
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>>288909556
I mean, technically, he falls within the "Dark Chosen One" category, being a world ending demon conjured by his long lost "brother" centuries ago.
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For all of you Meliodas and 7DS in general fans
>https://youtu.be/pkie-Nx9o8Q?t=524
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>>288905058
>You're a fucking retard or a sociopath if you don't understand how someone saving your life would make you feel indebted to them forever,
Yeah, I'm totally sure that if someone saves your life, you would go full psycho like Gon if something happens to them. Please, spare me these shitty excuses
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>>288905288
>tdlr
>Pic related discribes Natpoo
Natsu can't even beat Gildarts, no he's a failure. He's just t another bog standard low rate slop Shonen hero meant to be forgettable.
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>>288910128
Gon was a psycho before that though
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>>288909236
>>288909357
>>288909421
>>288909556
>>288909706
>tdlr
>Pic related is better and less a fraud
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>>288910150
Sorry friend but we already established Natsu won everything there was to win.
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>>288909236
>tdlr
>showing out of character shit between a literal retard fight bot and some ditzy useless whore
We all know that bitch ain't loyal and gets dicked down by her many male friends.
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>>288910214
He won the most irrelevant and forgettable copy paste Shonen hero award and lamest Temu naruffy clone award too.
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>>288889517
This looks like if you asked ai to make a generic looking shonen manga
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>>288892022
>Threw everything to shit for a dumb rage moment to avenge a retard he has know for less than one week.
That literally never happened. All he had to throw away was half a minute of life he had left before Pitou kills him. In case you haven't noticed, he decided to bargain with a hated enemy, and disregard what looked his only chance to kill her, just out of the goodness of his heart, only to get deceived and backstabbed.
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>>288910284
>>288910372
>those file names
Yes yes, that's why you got so assblasted by him and made this thread and are now pissing and shitting all over the place. KWAB!
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>>288910618
>Natsu is a shit protagonist and a sitter unoriginal Shonen hero concept
>let me post more Natsu pics on why that is compared to other Shonen heroes

Yeah real self own there
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>>288910626
who?
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>>288910674
Imagine having this big of a melty because your thread didn't turn out the way you wanted it. Couldn't be me.
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>>288911297
What's there to cope about? I love talking about my hero Natsu with you.
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>>288911159
>Everyone but me hates Natsu

Cope
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>>288911324
Bu nobody cares, this is the worst main character threadm. Natsuck is one of the worst.
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>>288911349
You deleted your comment after I quoted it my ESL friend.
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>>288911159
>having this big of a melty because your thread didn't turn out the way you wanted it
What are you talking about?
The point of threads like this is to give examples of the best or worst of a certain topic and discuss whether or not they deserve to be classified as such.
Am I wrong? Seems like this thread has been a success.
>>288911362
Because he forgot his Luffy pic the first time. Get off his dick.
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>>288911394
>Because he forgot his Luffy pic the first time. Get off his dick.
Funny and wrong!
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>>288911451
Ah, my mistake. My first replay still stands.
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>>288910626
Bart Simpson?
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>>288904811
>And talentless. And uncreative.
Hey, just like Mashima!
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>>288899691
Pretty sure that's considered Mecha, not Shonen.
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>>288879095
At least Deji had self-aware writing to him, unlike the other three.
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>>288879095
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>>288884065
When was Kenshiro cucked?
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>>288911722
>my first replay
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>>288912696
I think he means when Shin kidnapped Yuria. Not sure if this counts, but Guts and Jonathan certainly do.
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>>288905534
Pathetic schizo
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>>288909441
Good
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>>288912681
This is a shoujo manga
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>>288910674
So, which YGO protags do you feel fall under this topic?
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>>288909535
I think that was the Darklord dragon's idea.
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>>288913274
>shoujo
>with that cockroach of a protagonist
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>>288912681
>canonically can’t get a stiffy
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>>288903609
>Gon... i really don't know what these things really are.
Aren't they just Monsters?
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>>288900353
Kwab?
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>>288902501
I don't think he is.
But Gaia's Wrath and Kaiju sure beat his ass
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>>288913803
Monsters fleeing from even worse monsters
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>>288914236
So is kinda like Gaia's Wrath and demons?
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>>288913172
Butthurt shit clinger
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>>288879095
SHITji is with no doubt the top1 worst MC of all shonen. He is not only a piece of shit, he is boring. Its a character that has nothing interesting to say.
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>>288914436
I think that's the idea of his characters, he is a selfish, good-for-nothing, openly perv loser meant to be an antihero.
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>>288914478
>I think that's the idea of his characters, he is a selfish, good-for-nothing, openly perv loser
Of course he is all of this, and he is also the proof that this type of character can single handedly RUIN what was considered a great story (part1) if you give them too much focus. (part2)
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>>288913986
KWAB = Kek what a bitch
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>>288906301
Retconned.
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>>288915029
He got better unlike this dude, pretty much Gaia's Wrath beats him even in his dragon form.
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>>288913295
Yuma, feels like this character pandered to kids that wanted childish heroes doing childish things like them
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>>288911362
>Still posting pics that make the guy gayer and lamer
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>>288912217
At least Mashima writes.
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>>288907391
I think Asagaki Togo is pretty good
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>>288915504
>when Faye calls you a good boy
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>>288915504
Western media is so dead, this is why anime/manga is better.
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>>288915564
Kratos and Faye would rip the Fairy Tail verse apart with their bare hands. And make Natsu behave.
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>>288915182
>He got better unlike this dude

I doubt it, he's still the same character.
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>>288915707
It's so funny seeing Kratos like this because he wanted nothing more than to kill himself because muh nightmares.
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>>288879095
Let the hunger games decide that
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>>288915830
And they're off
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>>288915765
I'm referring to Hallow, not Natsu.
Hallow knows his place in the power scale, he knows he's getting stronger, but he also knows that even with all that power, he can't defeat the 13 Factions.

Natsu will use the "Power of Friendship" to defeat the NEs... dying horribly in the process.
(The Factions are no plot armor)
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>>288915830
>>288915880
How about their Threats vs the 13 Natural enemies?

MC vs MC is kinda unoriginal.
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>>288880781
>Asta
Dekuck, you have dishes to wash at your working place.
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>>288907790
>>288915956
Some guy in the Ragna thread actually made an scenario where the dragons have to fight the 13 factions.

In this case, What if the Demons of Demon slayer fight the Aliens, the Monsters of Monster x Monster fight Gaia's Wrath or what happens if The Dragon god of Fairy Tail have to deal with the 13 factions at once?
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>>288882635
>At least there was a fucking hint of deku plowing ochako in the future
Dekucks still believe this.
Come on, Ocbako's holes were already plowed by CHADkugou and IIDAlpha's chad thindercocks.
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>>288915815
Yeah but his series was meant to end in GoW 3
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>>288893397
CVCKji is an incel and a danger to wverybody around when having the freedom to make decisions by his own.
He got a well deserved end by becoming the dog of the people he took for granted and disowned as women.
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>>288916070
Basically was like this:
>Dragons vs Demons
More information is needed about Demons, but lesser and mature dragons can beat basic demons and may rival demon generals but sure a Demon lord may kill a Superior Dragon or twice, in this case will be a Draw.

>Dragons vs Robots
Dragons win
Robots are overwhelming, but so are the large swarms of lesser and mature dragons.

>Dragons vs Aliens.
More information is needed about Aliens, but lesser and mature dragons would lost against Aliens, may a Dragon Monarch can face and defeat the Aliens

>Dragons vs Gaia's Wrath
Gaia's Wrath win
Lesser and mature Dragons are nothing but food for the colossal flora&fauna of the grove
Superior dragons will have to go absolute wild to survive against these Giant animals

>Dragons vs Giants
Lesser Dragons may overcome a single Giant but they will lost against a whole group of them, Mature dragon could actually give them a good fight.
Lower-rank Superior dragons are no Match against Ginbak, King of Giants.

>Dragons vs Parasites
Parasites win over lesser and even mature dragons.
Lower-rank Superior dragons probably also fall under the control of the parasites.

>Dragons vs Lawless
Dragons win
Is Mad max vs dragons, they are still humans.
but maybe a single lesser dragon gets beaten by the Lawless and even used as a Guard dog.

>Dragons vs Neo-humans
Dragons win but in small groups they can be defeated and captured by the Neo-humans.

>Dragons vs The Curse
Dragons win but this victory will depend on The Curse Machine model.

>Dragons vs World Tree
World tree wins

>Dragons vs Mad God
Mad God wins
a Dragon Monarch maybe stand for a litte before being defeated by a literal Angry God, just maybe.

>Dragons vs Kaiju
Kaiju Wins
Some Superior dragons are literal natural disasters, but they are so small compared to Daikokuzan, there's no match, not even a Dragon monarch could beat the Kaiju.
(Maybe the Dragon God)

>Dragons vs The Videogame
More information is needed about The Videogame
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>>288895642
>Son is less of a jobber somehow
Dad won 2 choujin olympics and a choujin tag and proved himself his qorth to become the king. Son lost the choujin olympics, got exiled and only could win a tag tournament by bejng forced to cooperate with the same guy who humilliated him. Not to forget Nisei was decanonized.
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>>288915956
Alright then. Throw some suggestions out
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>>288916253
Attack of Titan vs The 13 factions
Fairy Tail vs the 13 factions
You know the rest, Every MC's enemy vs the 13 factions.
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>>288903547
At lrast Asta got what he wanted.

What about decuck?
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>>288905289
>Chainsaw Man #24 (123,843) // 11 days
Literal final volume boost. Nothing special.
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>>288906301
Retconned, HEROfumi YoshidALPHA is the pne who's gonna tap Asa's ass.

While INCELji will be SCATwer's dog 'till he dies.
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>>288916301
Does each slot get a villain name or their whole group?
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>>288916486
I think they should, the MCs call them differently.
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>>288910626
Man......


You're 100% correct.
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>>288916486
In addition, one must also know how each of the 13 factions works

Demons:
Evil beings of pure magic, their very existence is an anomaly that breaks all the laws of reality.
They each have 47 lord generals ruled and guided by one Demon Lord, making them a variated apocalypse in miniature.
currently however, 6 of them lie dead.

Aliens:
An exterminator race of primordial, highly-intelligent beings, their bodies are a kind of biomachinery so advanced that its beyond comprehension, but they are apparently weak against Mana/magic.

Giants:
Hominid colossi that are the epitome of physical power and brute strength.
Their bodies are walls, their gait makes the earth tremble, and their blows destroy mountains.
Their greatest weakness however is their limited intelligence.
Very Social beings with a very Short temper and when enraged, their roar thunders the battlefield.

Robots:
Self-sufficient machines with a deep contempt for humanity.
Intelligent and strategic, their numbers grow daily; their greatest weapon is their sheer numbers.
Highly adaptable and with an overwhelming learning capacity, they adapt to their opponents with each defeat.

Neo-humans:
A superhuman but arrogant evolved subspecies of humanity with great strength, agility, dexterity, intelligence, and cunning, as well as a nauseating indifference.
They would be the equivalent of the Heroes from My Hero Academia, but without the "Quirk."

Parasites: An extremely aggressive, eldritch parasitic lifeform, capable of mutating any living being into aberrant and unpredictable forms.
their power of mutation depends in their Host's power.

Gaia's Wrath:
Mother Nature demonstrating her stubborn and omnipotent power, an ecosystem of mythical beasts, monstrous flora, and giant animals whose colossal grove swallow continents everyday.
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Kaiju: A beast whose size reaches the clouds, its back a constantly erupting volcanic continent, and its gaze piercing the soul of every flea at its feet.
Its gait is slow but relentless, a natural disaster in physical form that molds the world in its wake.

The Curse: A plague of contaminants, a product of the humans of this world who developed machines capable of polluting both body and soul.
Physically, it appears as a black, acidic, and bubbling lake; nothing in this substance ever grows or lives.

Mad God: A supreme divine deity with the power to mold reality at will. Humanity is enslaved by faith in him, but through prayers, he is able to aid his devotees.
He really hates Nilihists and his wrath is something to fear.

World Tree: A parasitic tree of colossal proportions that absorbs the life from the Planet that sustains it.
All who see it faint at its beauty and magnitude.

Lawless: An apocalyptic world where humanity is its own worst enemy. Morality and fear are lost in many, and these deranged, Mad Max-like barbarians are capable of fighting any threat from other factions, such as giants.
Stealers of other factions and the Worst Backstabbers ever.

The Videogame:
IHNMAIMS/Sword Art Online/Tadc?
Not much is known about it, but it's likely an artificial version of Mad God where some kind of AM enslaved humanity through addiction to the game.
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>>288916342
Deku still got a top tier career and a girl on dial if she wants to go further into a life of the former number 1 hero.
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>>288916910
Natsu can't beat any of this, none of the Fairy tail heroes nor villains can beat these Natural enemies.
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>>288910626
Shameful punching bag.
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>>288917803
He ended up,becoming the scapegoat bc Mikey ends killing Takemichi. Everyrhing regarding that fairytale happy end is actually Takemichi's dying hallucination.
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>>288917566
Perfect reaction face to the 13 factions.
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It warms my heart that people are rightfully shitting on Fairy Tail

No one should ever be allowed to read this living torture, not only does this series lack depth, it literally lacks an identity. This piece of crap tries so hard to be something, and fails miserably at that. In its lack of identity, it gradually turns into a softcore fanservice manga taking advantage of the magazine it's published in so it doesn't gets canceled

And you want to know what the fuck Mashima did with the fanservice scenes? NOTHING. Want to know why?

BECAUSE THE FANSERVICE IN THIS PIECE OF SHIT IS SHALLOWER THAN A GLASS OF WATER, NO NIPPLES, NO AREOLA, NOT EVEN A HARD NIPPLE UNDER A DRESS

I will NEVER fucking understand how anyone can even get a hard on on one of the softest, dullest and MOST castrated fanservice in the history of entertainment

"Oh look at me, I will reuse the designs of Rave Master because I haven't had a single original idea in the past 20 years, I will trace and steal every single original idea for characters from One Piece, and at the last page of the manga, I will draw a fairy with a tail hehe I'm so funny and will use the same designs for my next cashgrab because the putrid fanbase I have will eat every drop of shit put on paper! Dude, I'm so fucking smart!"

FUCK Mashima
FUCK Natsu
FUCK Erza
And FUCK anyone in this godforsaken African chalkboard who praises it when it's one of the worst things to ever happen to the manga industry
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>>288918407
Lmao
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>>288916910
And yes, all the factions hate each other and will not hesitate to kill each other if they meet while hunting the humans.
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>>288892770
it wouldn't be this contentious of a topic if it was as straight forward as you pretend.
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>>288917566
"The Giants were here..."
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>>288916910
Sounds too complicated. Ill stick to boring MC vs MC. This is a worst shounen protag thread after all. Starting over because I lost the last session
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>>288919344
Next time we should make a Thread about the Best Shonen Threats/Natural Enemies for all these awful MCs, don't you think?
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>>288903451
yes.
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>>288919401
I still dont know what you mean by natural enemies and honestly you're starting to scare me.
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>>288919513
anon
>>288916201
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>>288889517
what a bunch of idiots...
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>>288919513
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>>288920056
>Naruto, Luffy and Yuji die
>Nutsack and Dekuck live
wtf
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>>288879095
this faggot ass cornball luffy is easily the worst, not even a contest. one piece fans are sub human mongoloids
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>>288916910
The Lawless are trash so far. weaker than the regular humans
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>>288909556
I think a big issue with modern writing is how much faggots like you are so adverse to the very idea of a "chosen one." You got out of the way to say he's not some special destiny baby but he does all the same shit anyways and this is all without the potential burden that comes with destiny. You don't want to realize that being a chosen one isn't always a great thing because you can't handle the idea that you're not and you have a perpetual need to self insert.
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>>288920601
They are actually just humans, but can steal items and technology from other Factions and even "tame" some of the beasts of the factions.
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>>288890107
I find him quite interesting compared to the average shonen MC. He's incredibly balanced. Him a relatively static character doesn't change that
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>>288920667
And they are Heartless
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>>288920667
they kind of suck ass though. no magic or science, they're just using what they've stolen from others with no particular expertise in using those items.
hallow, bastz or gigalita and his group would crush them.
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>>288920793
Kinda funny is that their weakness, they just take but don't learn about what they stole.
Literally they stole a weapon but they don't know how to use it.
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>>288918407
Amen, you win the thread
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>>288920752
I think this one could be Lucy if she meet the Lawless.
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>>288920470
I think the idea was making him a complete dumbumb with a good heart.
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>>288906704
I'm an unc and I prefer post irony. I'm tired of depressed millennials
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>>288920601
They are the weakest faction so far. Their immorality, like casually sacrificing 50 prisoners for the soul gun, gives them an edge over our heroes but they are still only human. They can't overcome any powerful Natural Enemies without exploiting known weaknesses or relying on otherworld tech and equipment for power.

Still love their inclusion, they provide such an interesting dynamic to the story. And with Rinri scheming how to use Yaotsu to his advantage, there's always potential for them to become more powerful threats. Very interested in seeing the 6 other Lawless groups as well, especially their theming. Wonder if they all will be Mad Max desert raiders or some more unique variations.

Natsu and literally all of the Stupid MCs in this thread can take them down.
As long they don't use the Curse Weapon
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>>288897644
>literal virgin
>whore
/a/nons are so retarded
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>>288921179
only way i see them becoming relevant is if the lawless humans basically mix with other natural enemies, like rinri becoming a humanoid parasite monster, or yaotsu granting them powers in exchange for their faith
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>>288921253
Yeah. That if Yaotsu don't get his ass kicked by Daikokuzan, The World Tree or The Demon Emperor.
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How do people distinguish mc being good/bad vs the author being good or bad at writing.
Any mc can be good if you gave it to different author who writes a different world, plot, supporting cast etc.
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>>288921316
Writing affect the story.
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>>288921058
Lmao
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This was a good Thread anons, the Versus thing was fun, good job.
We should make another thread like this soon.
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>>288921214
She offers herself to lower the price of a Celestial Key in the first chapter/episode.
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>>288921567
A gag btw
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>>288921430
There's one up right now. >>288916977
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>>288921598
Thanks bud.
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>>288921615
No problem.
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>>288915880
Saitama wins it all and still stays clueless what is happening since he destroyed everything in one punch.
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Yuri is the best protag a true sexi rapist a true gemini
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Do you think hinata wouldve left naruto if she met someone vastly taller than him? Like, usa phenotype taller?
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Yeah I'm thinking CHADtsu won.
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>>288924283
>>288901904



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