Fate/Zero is still the best Fate>Just wait for Hevens feel and its going to be better and darker than Zero>Shirou is better than Kiritsugu>Kirei vs Shirou>>>>> kirei vs kerryYou VN shitters lied to me , just finished the whole HF trilogy and yes while good its not on the level Zero, Shirou is still a shit MC just less annoying and that final fight was shit.
>>288889548>You VN shitters lied to me , just finished the whole HF trilogyNot one VN reader is going to tell you that the HF trilogy of movies is goodJust a retarded secondary as always
>>288889548UBW is the best fate. Best girl. Best partZero is a close second but oh god fucking damn, please stop talking, its so fucking expository.
>>288889548Are you an anime-only?Fate stay/night doesn't have a single good anime adaptation.Also, anything by urobutcher is bad by default.
People introduced to Fate by F/Z are the worst fans of any fandom. There aren't words to describe what that anime did to Fate.
>>288889548kys dumb secondary, even in japan tmchads shit on zero
>>288889933It's a really interesting phenomenon. People introduced to Fate by F/Z almost always prefer F/Z. The opposite is true for people who watch F/Z after anything else.
hf movies are garbage. zero is better than the vn though
>>288889548>VN shittersHere lies your problem. VN is a laughable medium for pathetic manchildren with no life experience or media literacy. Their takes are mental illness.On the other hand, Fate/Zero is written by an adult who deliberately set out to take a franchise for manchildren and salvage it into actual drama for functioning adults.It's similar to how Nolan took the Batman comics and made them a premise of actual films with The Dark Knight.The point is, Fate/Zero isn't really a part of the Fate franchise.
>>288889933I feel like I'm the outlier who got into Fate with F/Z but ended up preferring F/SN over time. Shirou is just a far more compelling character than Kiritsugu when reading the VN and majority of the characters were more interesting as a whole.
>>288890373F/SN was always better. F/Z is essentially just backstory. It was originally supposed to only cover Kiritsugu vs Kirei and the finale, but Urobuchi wanted to tell the entirety of the 4th Holy Grail War. Urobuchi himself even stated he wrote it for Fate fans who wanted to see Kiritsugu's story. He also apologized for any inconsistencies when final Fate/Zero episode aired in 2012. The F/Z anime was also pitched by Nasu >>288889933>Iwakami: It started off with Aniplex working with Type-Moon to bring Fate to anime form with Fate/Zero. And not just the Fate series. In 2007, we did The Garden of Sinners movies. After we were done with Fate/Zero, we were talking with Takeshi Takeuchi of Type-Moon about a new way to develop Fate, and a smartphone game was one of the ideas that we came up with. So Type-Moon started working on Fate/Grand Order as one of the official numbered titles in the Fate series.>Nasu: Many anime fans want there to be a lot of cute bishoujo characters in the work, and while they work hard to meet those needs, Iwakami, an important producer at Aniplex, wasn't satisfied just by doing that. I suggested that he tackle Fate/Zero, a dark and serious story full of raw emotion. He had the resolve, and that's how they ended up adapting Fate/Zero.
