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Welcome back fellow Nakanons

We're having another thread and maybe more in the future

Don't tell anyone

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>it's not like __ or anything, I just wanted to __ baka!

fill the gaps nonnies

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new y2k themed merch dropped

>>288910007
Of course, we need to pass the time until S2.

>>288910265
Hirose is straight guys we swear

>>288910265
I.. don't like it. The style seem mismatched and all over-the-place

The whole OST is available now, go listen to it! It's so good.

I finally read the manga. It's crazy how much changing the order of the chapters changes the overall tone and way the story progresses. The most obvious of course is saving Hana until the end and Hirose exchanging contact info right after. Makes for a more dramatic and romantic build up and payoff. But there's also things like pushing up the introduction of Takeuchi and Mukai and introducing Tamura before the play that overall changes the atmosphere and makes the class and Nakamura's and Hirose's places in it feel more fleshed out.
And seeing Syundei's author comments makes me think this had less to do with her and this manga specifically and more to do with the medium as a whole. I was already aware of how the fear of the axe can affect manga writing and pacing, often for the worse. But even beyond that, this anime's liberal rearrangement of the source material has made me realize that there's just inherent constraints and considerations to writing a manga that don't apply to anime. And that more anime could probably benefit from keeping this in mind and adjusting things accordingly.
The main thing I preferred in the manga is that both Nakamura and Hirose are more naughty. Nakamura is hornier (not just the tentacle scene) and more judgemental, especially towards Ohmori. And Hirose is more mischevious and even shows a bit of a mean streak with Hana. It's not a huge difference, which is why I like it. I wouldn't want Nakamura to be an actual pervert or jerk. But that little bit of roughness around the edges makes them feel more real and human. And it's cute.

>>288909954
Where's the Gold Roger edit?

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>>288910265
Otogiri did nothing all season and he still gets merch.
Give Hifumi and Matsumura something please

>>288910697
I always viewed the series as Syundei's digestif from her primary work as a short-form horror BL mangaka. Nakamura never really felt like it was supposed to be a real series but just a place she could return to in between projects when the mood struck. The fact that it ultimately blew up and became her most recognized work possibly rubbed her the wrong way and complicated her long-term relationship with it. I am glad that the anime found a way to make these characters and scenarios work in a cohesive narrative, but it definitely was never the intent by Syundei.

>>288910697
I prefer the anime as a story but one thing it couldn't do, or chose not to is adhere to her style.
Nakamura looks so cool in the manga and he just doesn't in the anime.

>>288910773
>you want to be a provocative psychological horror author dealing with taboos and stuff
>your most celebrated work is a fluffy romcom
I'd be pissed off too.

>>288910866
Would that really be that surprising? A fluffy romcom would clearly have a larger potential audience. To me, the best way to think about it would be as an advertisement. Something like Nakamura is going to reach more people, who may also have an interest in her other works.
>>288910819
Hirose is also different. In the anime he is simultaneously more pretty and handsome. In the manga he's cuter. I think an anon in one of the episode threads said he looks more shota. And I'd agree with that.

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>>288910541
It's already up on Spotify too, nice.

What kills me is that even if the manga continues it's definitely not following the anime. Nakamura and Hirose are at such a different stage of their relationship in the manga that it's going to take like two more volumes until they can have a movie date.

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>感動の中村
That was a nice track... I wish there was another episode today.

>>288910866
And unfortunately, with how many prudes she got from her fluffy romcom, I doubt she'll return to horror or taboo fiction anytime soon.

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>>288910697
>think this had less to do with her and this manga specifically and more to do with the medium as a whole. I was already aware of how the fear of the axe can affect manga writing and pacing, often for the worse
Nakamura came out between 2015 and 2016 on Opera. It was in a pretty risky place back then since BL wasn't as popular as it is now already and Nakamura itself was an atypical BL that focused on the comedy more than on romance and fanservice aiming to reach a larger audience perhaps. It's incredible how far it went with the Japanese audience and then worldwide
>there's just inherent constraints and considerations to writing a manga that don't apply to anime. And that more anime could probably benefit from keeping this in mind and adjusting things accordingly
I'd say that anime has its own constraints too, and way worse than manga. Budget money is the first coming to mind, but also appealing to a more mainstream audience, story restraints...unfortunately a anime often cannot exist without a manga and that's the worst one
>more judgemental, especially towards Ohmori
was he? I do remember him judging him in the anime too, but I like it more this way because it shows Nakamura maturing and makes me care more about him because he's not mean spirited, just jealous
>>288910773
I might sound schmultzy but I think Nakamura is indeed her best work, even the manga has such a genuine energy that people can't help but love, while some other mangas of hers while daring and raw feel a little too tryhard sometimes, it's dark BL but still with all the toxic tropes associated with it. Often what you like more isn't what you're better at, however Nakamura and Hirose are among the first characters ever made by Syundei. You can find a few pictures about them dating back to 2014

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>>288911127
Manga-Nakamura would be jealous of anime-Nakamura.

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>>288910340
Both Nakamura and Hirose would never ever wear something like this I feel but it's promotional artwork so it's fine.

>>288910819
Really? the anime is more cutesy and makes them look chubbier, but for me it's near to imperceptible. I like it more to be honest, huge contrast to most other BL animes, they look like normal young teens
>Nakamura looks so cool in the manga and he just doesn't in the anime
share some panels of this if you want, I wanna see what you mean

>>288911250
I think I mostly hate the shirt and tie with ripped jeans

>>288910541
>>288911131
I got emotional listening to the OST. Started with a smile with a cute track but then I got teary eyed when Hirose's theme came up

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>>288911175
I think he just calls him plain in the anime but here he gets all smug about how better he is than him.

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>>288911175
>>more judgemental, especially towards Ohmori
>was he?
Yeah, at the beginning, he was definitely more internally rude towards Ohmori. It gave Nakamura depth, but this rudeness specifically to Ohmori did seem to come out of nowhere. For instance, picrel predates the chapter in which Nakamura found out that Hirose walks to school with Ohmori, so it's not like he knew their closeness.

>>288911380
>>288911402
Same thinking lmao.

>>288911127
the manga doesn't really have a story, the first volume did but the second one was more random. Now that the show got crazy popular and it's established fans want to see Nakamura and Hirose becoming a thing, I think Syundei can just restart from wherever she left and make some more random chapters but with a little bit of progression this time and end it with a big development, like volume 1 did. The editors would probably push her to get Nakamura and Hirose closer too

>>288911380
>>288911402
I think that's what the manga translator went for, the "he's plain, so he'd definitely hang around someone cooler like me" thing he said back in class was basically this one line

>>288911380
And he keeps doing it. I'm phone posting so I don't have the page. But when he's going off into one of his fantasies idealizing things when the three of them are going to eat together, he imagines Ohmori as a little monkey off to the side. It's so mean and funny. I get why the anime downplayed it. But I would have rather seen it as something he grew out of rather than almost entirely getting rid of it.

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He wanted to smell Hirose's shorts in the manga.

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>>288911478
>>288911402
>>288911380
I love Nakamura but I love Ohmori too because he's just that cute and sweet so I'm glad they removed this stuff because he never gets payback for being so jerky compared to other stuff he does, and if you consider that Ohmori himself helps him in China town in the manga it makes things worse. Was heartwarming seeing Naka greeting him in class. If they ever make a season 2 Ohmori deserves some additional spotlight

I see we all read the manga after the anime ended lmao.
I was thrown off by the pacing a bit but I overall liked it. It's not as mean as anons made it out to be, mostly just meandering.

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this one made me feel extra emotional
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ChhiVXMete0
encapsulates all the feelings of the last episode. Sad but also hopeful

>>288911648
They should have kept that one. His other big horndog moment (other than the tentacles) is getting jealous during the nurse's office misunderstanding about Hirosensei. But that was way less lewd in the anime. So the shorts would have been a good way of sneaking in a little bit of his horniness in a scene where he was already being weird anyway.
>>288911649
That's why I would have liked it to have been treated as something he grows out of. Similar to how he grows to respect that Matsumura, despite being a crazy stalker, is a nice guy. That's anime original. So inventing a scene where Nakamura has a little moment with Ohmori and regrets how he had been thinking about him would have worked.

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>>288911649
>If they ever make a season 2 Ohmori deserves some additional spotlight
I'd like to imagine that the AU that Syundei drew in which Nakamura befriended Ohmori and Tamura in adulthood came from the additional characterization down the line that Syundei had in mind. So an additional spotlight for S2 doesn't seem so far-fetched (that is, if the sequel does happen).

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I don't know how to feel about these designs.

>>288910697
Apparently the staff wanted the anime to also work as an introduction of being gay to kids as young as elementary students so it makes sense they made it less horny

>>288912181
>the staff wanted the anime to also work as an introduction of being gay to kids as young as elementary students
Do you have a link detailing this?

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>>288912258
I remember reading it here
https://www.animatetimes.com/news/details.php?id=1781864250

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>>288911738
the manga is a different medium, it’s normal for the tone to lean more toward humor and people greatly appreciated it for that very reason. But while I found myself laughing at the cringey, pervy scenes too I never really liked some of its mean streak and Hana’s chapter was the worst offender. Episode 12 would have never been so well-received if it had played out like it did in the source material, honestly, I think there would've been some understandable backlash.

What I appreciate and downright love about the anime it's how it takes Nakamura's feelings more seriously and passionately, almost as if it truly cares about him going for it.

In the manga
his love is still real and perhaps even more realistic for a teenager, but story wise it feels more like an awkward high school crush, along with all the drawbacks that come with it, the stories in the manga are the same of the anime but the focus is Nakamura getting into uncomfortable situations and that what's entertaining about it

As for The anime
likely with Syundei’s own approval, chooses to highlight how genuine and deep his feelings really are, showing him grow as a person with his crush slowly transforming into profound Love and the show starts to be less comical and more sentimental as it progresses


It's subtle, but I feel a different energy from the anime. You laugh less, but feel more

>>288912311
>but rather we wanted to convey that it's a wonderful thing for one person to love another
well they did a better job than any other western children media ever did honestly, at least among the ones I know about

>>288912311
Do you mean the quote about taking an approach to reach as many people as possible for the show?

>>288912559
Nevermind, found what you meant

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More merch.

>>288912622
there are too adorable

>>288912181
>>288912311
I think that's more reason to include the shorts. The tentacles and getting jealous about (assuming) sensei and Hirose have had sex would be too mature for that. But wanting to sniff your crush's shorts is exactly the sort of gross, primal, simple minded urge that even an elementary schooler could relate to. They're not eunuchs. Nakamura's near total lack of sexuality in the anime does bring it more in line with the sort of saccharine het romcoms it is emulating. But it does make it less realistic and relatable.
>>288912320
I actually like how much of a shit Hirose is to Hana in the manga. Not out of hate for her, but because it makes Hirose more interesting. That said, I think it wouldn't work for what the anime was going for and that what they did was more than worth the tradeoff. Just adding the matching pens completely changes that interaction for all three of them. The manga also didn't have Hana crying during the breakup. And it's not like Hirose's bad attitude was totally scrubbed. But he's more aloof than outright dismissive. The end result is that there's a little less depth to Hirose's personality, but more to Hana's, and lot more to Hirose's feelings towards Nakamura.
Also, related to this. I love how the manga did Nakamura asking Hifumi for the second manga chapter. It's one of the few cases where the manga elaborates on the scene more. But just that implication of Nakamura's eyes being red and Hifumi's quiet understanding is so good, especially for Hifumi's arc of acceptance of Nakamura's feelings for Hirose. It's such a little thing, but it helped solidify her as my next favorite character after the the two boys.

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>>288912820
Nta but I still feel so bad for Hifumi at the end of episode 3 yet that part is easily one of the best in the season for me and shows how much they cared about the characters in the anime. The moment she stares heartbroken and confused at Nakamura longing for Hirose has something so beautiful to it I can't really explain, it's a more poetic form of heartbreak and the music just complements it so well. Does anybody here have a webm of it?

Nakamura needs to get jacked so he can give Hirose the full nelson he deserves

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>>288913285
Imagine...

>>288913475
This is cursed.

>>288913475
I wonder what their dick sizes are...

Reminder Hirose,
>is a bad brother to Saho, his sweet and supporting sister
>is a bad friend to Matsumura
>was a terrible boyfriend and seemed to actively dislike Hana in the manga
>is late to everything
>doesn't answer his friend's messages (episode 1)
He is a little shit.

>>288913637
Friendly NPC types like Hirose can get away with murder and people will still love them

>>288912820
>I actually like how much of a shit Hirose is to Hana in the manga
I think not much changes in the anime besides them showing that Hana healed and has friends she's happy with later on. Hana is one of those characters that needed some additional characterization in my opinion, unless the octopus pen scene was indeed her figuring out something was fishy about her boyfriend
>The end result is that there's a little less depth to Hirose's personality
>and lot more to Hirose's feelings towards Nakamura.
I'd argue the overall characterization for Hirose is more in the anime. While it's true it is more related to his feelings for Nakamura compared to the manga, we still get to know him more and beyond Nakamura's view of him. The way he dresses casually, the restaurant episode, the repeated pattern of him laughing at/with Nakamura compared to others, the way he reacted to Nakamura appreciating his gift. The anime makes him more feel more vulnerable and reachable and it's a good thing to watch, and of course him getting voiced and animated helps understanding his character more
>I love how the manga did Nakamura asking Hifumi for the second manga chapter. It's one of the few cases where the manga elaborates on the scene more
the manga joking about Nakamura's pain was exactly why I was referring to when I criticized the Hana chapter. The manga elaborates on it more because it serves as a comical scene, just like when he cries his eyes out at night. As I wrote in my earlier post, it makes sense for the manga to be like that, but I can't help but prefer how the anime handled everything

>>288912820
>Hifumi's quiet understanding is so good, especially for Hifumi's arc of acceptance of Nakamura's feelings for Hirose
true, I'm still salty she didn't get more in episode 13 but that was a good closure for her character, if you think about it, the quote about "loving someone not because they love you back but just because you love them just how they are" could be what Hifumi thought about Nakamura

>>288913637
I do dislike how mean he is to Matsumura, and he doesn't seem to suspect he's the creepy obsessive stalker kind since he was so affectionate when he met him so I wonder if he does that because he's forgetful or Matsumura is just a tad too rigid about things and Hirose doesn't like to be controlled, which is extremely likely due to how bratty and confrontational he can be

>>288913823
>unless the octopus pen scene was indeed her figuring out something was fishy about her boyfriend
The anime can be a bit vague sometimes. The Hana octopus pen scene could easily be a nothingburger but it did linger a second too long so people speculate about it.

>>288913475
>swole but embarrassed about it
Peak

It's wild Japan is the last place to get the anime finale.

>>288914225
it's free tv, while the rest of the world paid to see it on platforms

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>>288913637
this is why it's going to be interesting once him and Okuto get into an actual relationship. While I think that Okuto wouldn't mind most of those things and would just let him do whatever he wants because the main point is that Hirose can stop the people pleasing around him and be himself, everyone has a limit and they might get in a fight over something Hirose does, or doesn't. Will Okuto still love his bf after realizing he's a flawed human being like everybody else? (Of course he will)

That would be the series finale for me, and Hirose makes up to Okuto by telling he loves him in front of everyone

>>288913475
Nakamura get the fuck out of the way I want to see Hirose.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2jQYUbDy-w
;_;

>>288914225
Korea had theirs delayed too. But they had it worse because they didn't have a program to air it a week prior like Japanese Hulu did.

>>288914420
falling in love so young must be so beautiful. I forgot how it feels like but Nakamura helped me remember some of those feels. This is a gay love anime that's going to become history

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>>288914420
>mfw

>another screening for all 13 episodes at july has been announced
I wanna be in japan so bad... I want to become friends other irls who are nakamura fans and watch all the episodes together at the cinema...

>>288913579
I saw post pointing out that Nakamura fits the "quiet guy who secretly has a huge cock" type perfectly

>>288914760
I started sobbing watching this. I hate goodbyes

>>288914809
them milking it so much makes me think we aren't getting more...but is this usual for a BL? All these screenings? I don't remember Hikaru getting any

>>288913823
His expressions with Hana in the manga make him come across as outright irritated towards her. And for the octopus pen, it's not only her reaction but Hirose's. When he seems to go out of his way to omit connecting the pen to Nakamura.
>I'd argue the overall characterization for Hirose is more in the anime.
I would agree with that. I meant in regards to that specific part. Outside of that, the anime takes what Hirose says to Nakamura in the aquarium and really expands on it through the diner, that suspicious valentine's day interaction, and the movie date. It creates a much stronger sense that a lot of Hirose's outward behavior is a mask. We get to see what Nakamura feels in private and what his internal monologue is. But he's really hiding quite a lot. The anime makes it seem as though Hirose might not be so different and that he's more than just a genki normalfag.
>>288913637
He is a perfectly normal brother. And he usually had reasons for being late. Manga Hirose is a little bit of an inconsiderate brat. In addition to his Hana rudeness, he didn't hesitate to record over something potentially important with Takeuchi. But anime Hirose is mostly just scatterbrained and oblivious. Even the Matsumura thing, as bad is it seems, is really just him not responding to most of his texts. Which, considering how many he sends him, is not that rude. It would be exhausting and tedious to constantly go back and forth like that forever. He probably just checks intermittently and responds all at once to anything he's gotten since the last time he checked.

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How likely is him to be right here? I did find it weird that the gf was crying

>>288915157
Hirose seemed way too upset about it for it to have been a lie.
Hana crying could just be a girl getting emotional and finding out her firt boyfriend is a fag.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UD_L3TCHKtI
god the transition from "His Happiness is My..." to "I love you" is making me cry, the performance with the video in the background is so good

>>288914420
Stop puting that after credits scene in things, it's giving me hope.

Watched a couple dubbed episodes.
I do not recommend doing that.

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I want to hear this goober make machine gun sounds.
Also, why is that one of your talents, Hirose?

So will you guys be watching the live-action adaption when it inevitably comes out?

>>288914359
I mean, that's the obvious next conflict right? You can't do Hana again so just make them fight for that sweet, delicious drama.

>>288915797
out of desperation for lack of content? Maybe

>>288915797
of course if it does come out, I'm taking anything at this point really

>>288916014
There's a high chance it will. Even low-mid level popularity BLs get live-action adaptions

>>288915797
Fuck that.

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I am really happy you guys showed up for this thread. I didn't have much faith because I thought most of you would've moved on by now because it was just an anime, but it turns out I'm not the only one here still craving for more and still wanting to connect with people here over this show. Hopefully the community stays alive waiting for a season 2

>>288915797
No but if it puts more money in Syundei's pockets then good.

>>288916107
I started watching it because of the twitter drama and stayed lmao

>>288915459
The dubbed episodes are silly. Reminds me a bit of older dubbed anime. I like Hirose and Reiko’s English voice

>>288915624
>5'4"
>less than 100 lbs
I'm going to pick him up.

>>288916584
110lbs*

>>288916584
takeuchi...

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I still don't know how to feel about the senseis not being a pair

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oh what the fuck this thread's been up for 6 hours? i tried looking for it in the catalog twice earlier today and i swear it wasn't there. jesus i'm blind

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I feel so bad thinking about Syundei
>be rando fujoshi with art skills in the early 2010s
>create your own personal BL couple
>get to greenlight your own manga depicting their story a few years later
>manga gets so worldwide popular is memified to oblivion
>your unknown characters are literally meme template
>get asked to produce even more
>exactly 10 years later from when it all started, your niche manga is getting adapted into an anime
>the studio makes it extra special too
>you finally made it
>somehow you cannot enjoy any of this because prudes made a huge drama out of it
>your work getting animated and airing on tv is forever linked to people harassing you out of social media, the place where everything started

>>288916852
She also has health issues, like most mangaka.

Sad to say but I don't think Nakamura's family would support him if he ever comes out of the closet.

>>288916753
I think Otogiri is a mirror for Nakamura. I think he knows that Naks is gay because he's gay as well and did like Niou, but Niou had someone else in his Heart. While Otogiri accepted he wasn't loved back like a young adult would and moved on, Naks is still a kid and he suffered for it. We can get a glimpse of Otogiri's adolescence through Nakamura, and since he eventually overcame it and grew up to be a seemingly well adjusted adult so will Naks, even if Naks' personality is more like Niou

>>288916852
To be fair the manga with the boy having sex with his brainwashed little brother she made got uploaded in English a week after the anime started airing. I think that contributed heavily to all the backlash and was where the pitchforks started with woke normalfags.

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>I hope that in a few years it will remain in your memories as "there was a work like that. Maybe I'll watch it again"
yeah we're not getting another season...
https://x.com/thetvjp/status/2069816324377993645

>>288916996
Kana knows 100% and doesn't care, straight or gay she's going to act bitchy either way
I think the mom would be shocked but she would eventually learn to support him, she's an average anime mom we don't really know a lot about her

>>288916852
It probably doesn't help that she got criticized badly for edgier content while other popular fujo authors get away with it on account of their artstyle not being as meme-ish.

>>288917032
as for now, they're definitely not planning anytging judging by this statement. But I remember someone saying a part of the staff wanted to keep going if they could

>>288916996
His sister would just be like "whatever, who cares?" We don't see enough of his mom or any of his dad to know how they would react. But, realistically, they already know. There is no way they wouldn't have found some of his BL. And he wasn't exactly quiet with his crying about a boy.

>>288916996
One anon wrote that the fact that they gifted him a octopus pet was a sign they cared about him. Octopus aren't exactly common as pets

>>288917032
Give confession movie! Surely Syundei's got some storyboards lying around they could work with.

>>288917015
but that was hot

>>288917032
I don't want to get anybody's hopes up, but this is standard japanese anime crew talking I guess. They rarely tease sequels, they mostly focus on the finished product so fans can do so as well. If there are any Japanese anons here, maybe they know more about this kind of formalities than I do

>>288917015
>To be fair the manga with the boy having sex with his brainwashed little brother
Syundei is unhinged wtf lmao

btw Otogiri is just 25

>>288917015
How the fuck do I not know about that?
Which one is it?

>>288917752
https://myreadingmanga.info/syundei-tamekou-peach-eng/

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Hana - Heater https://youtu.be/GPUg7n8-M6o
Hirose - Harvey https://youtu.be/gaA7RAy5rYg
Nakamura - (Hey) Jude https://youtu.be/mQER0A0ej0M

>>288917839
>Syundei collab with the author of Kakko no yume and deichuu no hasu
wtf peak, thank you

It's okay, we just have to wait...

>>288917839
>diabetes fetish
WHAT

>>288918052
I like to think this way: authors gifted us an open ending teasing for more, but never specifying about what that more was about, so everyone can continue the story from where it was left with their own imagination and passion. There was this one character that said they didn't want to write a sequel for their story so everyone could figure out their own way to continue it and make it theirs, it stuck with me because Nakamura is a gem of gay media made to be relatable and sweet and there's a lot of ways it could progress

>>288915102
>But he's really hiding quite a lot. The anime makes it seem as though Hirose might not be so different and that he's more than just a genki normalfag.
I honestly hope they do continue this series because there's so much potential for the dynamics between Hirose and Nakamura as Hirose reveals more of himself to him. I agree with you that he's quite interesting to dissect as a love interest character
>>288914050
she did take a very close look to it

Well, looking at japanese twitter it's comfrting to see we are not the only ones thinking that ending scene reeks of sequel bait.

>>288918399
many of them want a season 2 just like us, but unlike us they aren't so vocal about it and prefer to celebrate and cherish the current work

>>288916683
No way! If I held Hirose's hand, it would be for real!
>>288916753
If only one of them was going to be gay, I'd have rather it have been Niou. Since he's more aware of and mentoring Nakamura.

>>288918435
not saying I'm not one of the vocal ones, I craved more before it was over but I do envy how the japanese can focus on the present more compared to myself

>>288918498
There was no Niou training Nakamura in the anime and I think that was a missed opportunity. It'd be cool if Niou and Nakamura could be like Hirose and Otogiri.

>>288916852
To be fair, I do think people need to be a little bit more Stirnerian when it comes to drama like this.

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is everyone here a Hirosefag (literal or not)? No Nakafags? :(

I fucking love nakamura that’s my gay son I want him to experience sex with Hirose as a treat, where are the r18 doujins

>>288915797
is JP live action stuff usually worth watching? I had it in my head that it gets really campy

>>288918581
I love them both. They are both lucky to have the other.

>>288918581
Nakamura is too relatable. Hirose is eye candy.

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>>288918612
Nakamura doesn't want sex that much. He wants love first and foremost, he's pure

>>288918581
I'm in a very weird spot where my favorite is Nakamura, I find him adorable and lewd, but I also identify myself with him...
I love him but at the same time I feel weird about it

>>288918660
I’m impure i want the r18 doujins

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>>288918634
they make a great couple
>>288918655
>Hirose is eye candy
true, Nakamura is an acquired taste, but the sweetest one if you learn to understand him
>>288918679
I relate an awful lot to him but I'd also have been the kind of guy to take him under my wing if we were in the same class because I'm less introverted than he is. Not nearly as popular as Hirose or as seemingly perfect as Matsumura, but I see myself in them in the way they look at him. He tries and loves with all his heart in the most dorky way in the anime and that gets me

>>288918713
listen Kou-chan, do you really want to get cucked that bad?

>>288918626
BL live-action adaptions are ok if you can stomach some of the cringe with the slow motion segments. Also when a character is meant to be attractive for the story but their actor isn't it can take you out of it

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Maybe this will be our last thread for a while. However, if anyone feels like creating another one in the future if the fandom is still alive and thriving, it might be a wonderful idea to make it on Wednesdays to celebrate the day we used to watch the show here. That way people will know exactly when to look for a Nakamura thread in the catalogue

Of course, if news comes up then feel free to make a thread whenever that happens, however I feel like that if we have an established to talk about the show, more people will come for it

>>288919322
>Also when a character is meant to be attractive for the story but their actor isn't it can take you out of
I'd love a BL with an unattractive or not attractive main. I hope they won't cast some ikemen as Nakamura

>Hirose takes out his dick
>it's above average, fairly impressive size
>Nakamura takes out his dick
>it's uncharacteristically huge, to the point Hirose is actually kind of scared to put it in

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Wtf is going on in the Syundei drawing?

>>288919635
>it's uncharacteristically huge, to the point Hirose is actually kind of scared to put it in
I hate this headcanoning. Justice for tops with small penises

>>288919685
Is that Otogiri?

>>288919712
A quiet, nervous loser like Nakamura being hung is peak gap moe
Give Matsumura the tiny pecker
>>288919722
Matsumura

>>288919685
Rape.

When are these doofuses refer to each other by their first names?

>>288919905
in 2036

>>288917839
I knew Syundei had a back catalog with darker themes, but I didn’t know she was this based. I should’ve investigated sooner

>>288919685
MATSUMURA WHAT DID YOU DO

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>>288912311
They want to turn the kids gay by having them listen to hirose sleeping asmr...

>>288917839
>Zombie shota BL
Damn.

>>288920220
This is also a reference to that one Hirose ASMR tape chapter they didn't adapt.

>>288920361
>re-record it digitally
>edit out the Takeuchi parts on his copy
>record over their goofing off on the original so they don't get in trouble
>return it
That's what Matsumura would have done. Nakamura has much to learn.

It would be funny if everyone knew Nakamura is gay because he sucks at hiding it

>>288920633
Nakamura kept asking Kawamura to draw yaoi of them and she still didn't get the hint. Everyone in this world is brain dead.

>>288920777
I'd say she did take the hint lol, she literally talks about how she has seen Nakamura reading yaoi in class in ep 10

>>288920777
it’s implied that she eventually figured it out after seeing him sniff Hirose, but it’s really funny how none of the three fujoshis mentioned that he might be gay when he interrupted them in the middle of their shipping to request BL of himself

>>288920804
>>288920914
They are very open minded and think Nakamura is a straight fudanshi.

>>288921019
>Good
>Peak
>eh
>Great
Is how I felt about each segment of the anime in that order

>>288921019
>crab and octopus checkpoints
Too cute. The game board aesthetic was great artistic direction, and it seems like there's more after the octopus

I'm gonna say it. I don't care for Matsumura. He's the worst character along with Nakamura's sister. Those two should hook up.

>>288921557
you ain't subtle about this Okuto. Don't worry, Hirose isn't going anywhere...for now

>>288920633
Hifumi, Niou, and Kou know for sure. His sister almost certainly strongly suspects if not outright knows. There's a good chance Otogiri, Reiko, Mukai, and Hana either know or at least suspect. Takeuchi has never thought about it but wouldn't be surprised (field trip camera). And the other girls barely know he exists, so they wouldn't care anyway.
Only Ohmori and Tamura would be totally surprised.

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>>288921019
Gotta milk that episode 6 scene for all it's worth huh?

>>288921557
I skipped the two Matsumura segments on rewatch because they’re pure filler and tonally off. like, who invited this man? he never interacts with another character besides the main two or affects the main plot. it’s so bizarre and contrived

something I noticed is that some of the tracks in >>288921648 do play more than one time while every track from >>288921019 is a one-off, but there are some one offs in the Sound collection too. Could this mean they are planning to use >>288921648 OST again for something else?

>>288921692
Deep lore: Matsumura is a figment of Nakamura's imagination he invented to reinforce his own more worthwhile feelings for Hirose

>>288921692
Thanks to him existing we know Hirose tends to ghost people on line and yet was glued to Nakamura's chat and replied him in 1 seconds

>>288921706
It's absurd you have to buy the blu rays to get arguably the best music tracks of the show (the piano parts in eps. 12 and 13) in physical form. Just include them on the regular OST release for gods sake.

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>>288921692
wayta? Christmas episode was extra comfy and gave both a little depth outside Hirose

>>288921692
>who invited this man?
Hirose, at least the first time.

Episode 8 is fun, you get to see Nakamura being more of a weirdo which is always nice but I agree episode 11 is on of the weaker ones even if it does have the octopen scene which is pretty important for the finale.

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>>288921850
The worst part of episode 11 is no shaggy Hirose.

>>288921918
It kept Otogiri away from Hirose so I don't mind the trade.

Matsumura is a cute character and a nice addition, it's just that Syundei introduced him as a one off joke and then the anime choosed to include him in another episode but that wasn't enough to met his full potential as a rival. I find his apparently kind personality hiding a temperamental persona endearing. He's a creep, but also a lonely boy that can see through people

>>288921850
11 was slower because it was 80% anime original, but that part where they team up to help that child is easily one of the most wholesome moments of the show and serves to show Nakamura is a good kid outside of his love for Hirose too, and humanizes Matsumura. I guess it was nice seeing Nakamura during christmas time too

>>288921945
I wonder if matsumura even has any friends...
In the ep he was introduced he said he was shy and hirose helped him out in middle school, but now Hirose is ignoring him and when he shows his schedule his only plans are studying.
It makes me think he's alone now and he always brings with him old photos of hirose to feel less lonely, on ep 11 he probably wanted to get the best present for Hirose hoping he'd become more eager to hang out with him again that way

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>>288922176
I think much like Nakamura he is so laser focused on Hirose he doesn't care about getting any friends, but unlike Nakamura Hirose isn't there in his new elite school to support him. I'm sure Kosei comes from those strict asian households that want the best grades and the best son, he's an overachiever himself but with lot of pent up frustration for it and chances are his sexuality is repressed too. He gets completely hysterical when he fights with Nakamura and he's a control freak, probably much like his parents are, but he isn't ultimately a bad guy, just twisted.

His characterization is all meant for comedy purposes but I can't help but think about his potential as a character in the future

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>>288921850
fr episode 8 has some of the funniest moments in the entire show.

>>288922444
Nakamura commissioned a whole ass manga to Kaamura and i'm sure he didn't even pay her.

>>288922444
cutest sex offender

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we all agree the cute fujo is the purest character in the show, right?

>>288922712
She and Ohmori are still vying for the title.

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>>288918166
On that note, what is the headcanon here? What did he just see?
I'm going with him and Hirose not being in the same class this year. So he can't just passively exist around him to maintain their relationship. He'll have to step up and start actively pursuing him.

>>288923377
A lot of people want Matsumura to transfer to the school for cute and fun shenanigans but I feel like that would get old really fast. Plus, unlike Nakamura, I feel like he wouldn't hide his gayness.

>>288923377
Being separated wuold be a nice hook for a continuation but it sure would be a downer, they worked so hard on their friendship please keep them together.

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>>288922400
My theory is that I think both Matsumura and Nakamura had their formative years ruined due to being deep in the closet. Both were so wary of others discovering their sexuality that they threw off their social tempo and development early on.
Meanwhile, Hirose was able to develop into a social butterfly because he genuinely didn't know about his sexuality early on, which meant he never truly hid away from interacting and being wary of others as much.
As a result, both Matsumura and Nakamura got attached to Hirose, because even if they're wary of others, they still yearn for a connection. Especially with someone who has the ability to connect to them, in more ways than one (while also being cute).

>>288923445
I'd considered that too. But, in addition to what you said, I also just don't think Kou would be a convincing rival to Nakamura. He already lost. We know Hirose ghosts him while he snatches up his phone the second Nakamura texts. If he's going to date a boy, it will be Nakamura long before it's Kou. I think if he were to have any continued relevance it would be as a begrudging confidant for Nakamura, since he's the only person that truly knows how obsessed he is with Hirose.
I'd also like to add to my headcanon that Nakamura is in the same class as Ohmori and Hifumi. That way he can make good on his plan to use Ohmori to learn more about and get closer to Hirose. And Hifumi, having accepted that her crush is gay, can go full fujo wingman. And in the process Nakamura can make two real, non-romantic friends.

It feels like an end of season drama arc but I would love Hirose to find out about Nakamura's manga.

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>>288915624
>favorite food: octopus
What the fuck, Nakamura?!

>>288924834
>favorite movies: chaplin films
This fucking guy

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Zukkyun

It's a shame anime doesn't do character songs anymore.

>>288926295
Nakamura and Hirose singing a duet would be dangerously cute.
>>288923913
One of the few plausible things that would damage Hirose's opinion of Nakamura. He's pretty easy going and non-judgemental. But there's no way to spin that as anything other than weird and obsessive.

>>288926295
Yeah the closest thing to it is this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8dI0IBs_hQ

where do I find my own Hirose, bros?

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>>288927059
A high school, presumably.

R18 doujins where Hirose is a power bottom

>>288928227
I think they would both switch. Hirose doesn't seem like the type who would want to bottom all the time. And Nakamura would do whatever Hirose wants.

while impossible, I feel like 2 more seasons for Nakamura would fit. One for the second year, and last one for the third and last year, and maybe a movie. The anime was intended as a standalone to depict young love for a gay boy and served its purpose, but there's so much you can do with all the characters in it it would be a wasted opportunity to not continue it in some way

>>288924834
>>288915624

>Nakamura is a Scorpio
>Hirose is a Pisces
they should switch because how in the world could Nakamura be a mean scorpio?

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>>288923584
yes they are similar because they're both shy and gay, their surnames too that was intentional but I think Nakamura was more emotionally affected by it, that scene of him yapping about octopuses as a kid serves as a metaphor for it, he clammed up. In Matsumura's case I think he was always sly enough to never let his likings slip since HS and wore a better social mask unlike Nakamura, that doesn't even bother, but whatever is under his social mask is a lot more unstable because it's more repressed. He was a stalker since he was like 7 if the pictures he took of kid Hirose were his.

TL;DR Nakamura was bad at masking, Matsumura was too good at it for its own good. When he's with Nakamura it seems like he can finally be himself much like Hirose does, that's what makes Nakamura so special to both

>>288928952
since elementary school*

>>288923445
Matsumura is exactly the kind of japanese guy that would hide his gayness because he's supposed to be some perfect guy that's going to get in the best university, have a perfect family with a perfect wife etc. gay is still taboo in Japan, that's what makes his character interesting and sort of tragic in a way.

Doubt he will change schools because Nakamura and Hirose attend a normal high school while he's going to a shingakkou judging by his uniform and his busy schedule including cram school. He would've never left Hirose's side so the choice of his school wasn't up to him and still isn't

>>288929141
Matsumura will eventually have a meltdown after he meets a cute guy at work after Nakamura marries Hirose when he feels like shit.

>>288929156
I'd like him to overcome his obsession with Hirose. Imagine being apart every day from the only person who befriended you and that doesn't even bother answering your texts. Nakamura crushes on Hirose while Matsumura is fixated on Hirose for some reason and it's clear his feelings come from an unhealthier place

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I want to go to the Nakahiro aquarium.

>>288929282
nta but I can agree that it's better for Matsumura to stop pursuing someone who doesn't care about him, but at the same time I think being obsessive is a personality trait and to get over him he'd need to find someone else to take hirose's place that can hopefully accept that part of him
this might also just be me projecting on Matsumura as a guy who liked stalking his childhood friend crush, I tried moving on by getting obsessed over a vtuber instead, I still think about him now and haven't had any other crush but I'm not as fixated about it

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>>288929592
Reminds me I saw a guy on twitter who found the cliff where Nakamura was suicidal and went there by bike

Help I can't stop rewatching episodes 12 and 13.

>>288929657
oh anon I get you, It’s hard to move on from someone that was special to you. That’s why I took a liking to Matsumura, the way he cried to Nakamura about his sadness for parting ways with Hirose to the point he keept his photos for comfort really hit me, I felt so bad for him because Hirose was a light for him just like he was for Nakamura. Normies call it creepy, which I get, but it’s also deeply human.
Though with Matsumura, I'm still not sure if he genuinely loves Hirose or is just obsessed with his figure.

Eventually, people grow out of these obsessions as they mature emotionally but if that's how your mind works, there's always a lingering feeling of longing when you're lonely, you just learn to long for something more accessible

>>288929810
I'm saving those for the end of a weekly rewatch. I will pretend the series is still ongoing

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>>288929592
real life NakaHiro went there. I hope they're very good friends, there is no way Hirose's VA is a straight guy, and why is Kobayashi always voicing gay dudes?

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I want
>volume 3
>season 2 half volume 3 half anime original
>an original movie
>cutie Tamura and Reiko short spin off
>season 3
>finale movie
>celebration movie for the 20th anniversary of the manga

I get
>nothing aside some random sketches and manga extras pushed by the editors

>>288930090
Man, why did she have to make them third years? Even if the story continues Tamura and Reiko won't be in it anymore...

>>288930113
I think they're second years in the manga, Hana chapter happened during summer and so did the last chapter Syundei wrote. We will still get to see them

>>288924834
Octopus is really tasty so I can't blame him.

I like that Hirose started as a generic pretty boy and as the show went on he got revealed to be just as much of a mess as Nakamura only with better social skills.

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>>288930240
Hirose is just a dude, your friendly boy next door that makes excuses not to marry your daughter because he not so secretly wants the Okuto-pussy

>>288930289
>>288930090
>>288929592
>>288929491
>>288927565
>>288926168
>>288923570
>>288923283

Being a young boy in love with another young boy is pure bliss, I will never experience such feelings again. No, it's not the same when you aren't a teen anymore

Wild how we got Hirose's inner thoughts for one chapter in the manga and then never again. I guess Syundei realized it'd be better if the audience doesn't know what's in this dude's mind.

>>288930090
>volume 3
I think the mangaka is mentally done with this series after she's been bullied on social media.

>>288930325
Hey, don't say that.
>>288930347
She was done with the manga way before that whole debacle let's be honest here.

>>288930357
what did I say wrong?

>>288930344
what chapter was that? The aquarium one?
>>288930347
>>288930357
I don't think things are as serious as people think. Syundei panicked and isolated herself to let things cool down for some months. She isn't going to give up on everything she worked for because some prudes that didn't even buy her mangas criticized her. Her continuing the series has more to do with her health issues and writer's block, but judging by how she ended volume 2 and the extras that came out like one year ago, I don't think she was planning to abandon Nakamura

>ew but she drew-
shut the fuck up I don't care. Shut the fuck up I don't care. That's my reaction

>>288930186
>icchan, looking like a snack today!
it's hilarious how dissonant japs can be. I think it's a cultural thing, veganism craze isn't as common there as it's here. They honor the animal they eat if I'm not wrong, Beastars has something like that

>>288922400
>>288923584
>>288928952
These are cute and all but it needs more angst. Imagine the angst of their first involuntary gay experience with each other while trying to compete over Hirose yet again. The projection and self-loathing. That shit would be epochal.

>>288930880
Syundei-sensei... write it NOW

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Well, the director just confirmed hirose likes Nakamura back in EP 13
https://x.com/i/status/2070099857562636386

>>288930992
what arrows is she talking about?

>>288931061
Paraphrasing a bit it's like
>If at first Nakamura's feelings were one-sided, I'd say at the end of the anime it's fine to say that Hirose also reciprocates a little bit by then

>>288930992
God, he keeps saying how the manga is unfinished and that's why the anime is open ended but dude, the manga is never gonna be finished.

Also, first time director apparently. That is insane.

>>288931111
I would never suspect a boy that dresses like >>288910265 to not be gay.

>>288930992
the way they're talking about this makes me think we aren't getting anything anytime soon...

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>>288931205
who are you calling gay, uh?? Wanna fight mate?

Happy this thread thrived. I don't know if I'm gonna bake more, but feel free to make another one next wed if there aren't any, if you want to