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Ch. 94 - Life in Gehenna
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If he's fully a robot, why did his creators even bother to turn humans into dragons instead of making more of him
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She didn't know that the impact against the water at that height would be fatal, the poor thing...
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>>288926879
That's all, folks.
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>>288926624
We'll need to learn more about the world's lore to understand how the heck Dragons are created in the first place, and not the humans who were transformed into dragons, but the originals.
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>>288926293
I wonder if more emotional dragons (unlike Kiryu) are more vulnerable to the dragon god's influence. Maybe Kiryu was always like this or he started acting more robotic to avoid the influence.
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>>288926879
Okay taking bets on what fucked everything up
1. She catches one of the dragons eating human meat
2. She accidentally kills her friend with silver aura after he transforms
3. An open war with the sun cult breaks out and they're forced to trade her off to secure some kind of agreement
4. Some combination of the above
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>>288926438
I wonder if Sigmalio cares about Kiryu doing this or not.
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>>288926565
>When someone gives you that dragon stare
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>>288927018
(Not)Light feels like the kind of guy who would act like he didn't care, but if given the chance, would obsessively focus all of his energy into killing her for violating the "rules" of whatever kind of fucked shyguy9 inspired vore fetish he has going on.
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>>288926758
I assumed that becoming part of a bloodline halts your aging, but I guess it's one of those things where your aging doesn't stop until you're 20ish or something.
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>it took two days for the latest Ragna Crimson chapter to be dumped here
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>>288926804
Does he just keep an image of himself above all gates to his labyrinth.
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>>288926879
The tragedy begins.
>>288926902
Thanks for the dump OP.
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I have two important questions. I already asked one in the previous thread, and now I have another: If these are good dragons, how do the lesser and mature dragons behave toward the humans in their care? Aren't they mindless beasts that only act on instinct and are used as disposable pawns by the superior dragons who summon them with their blood in the most Lovecraftian way possible?
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The second question was: What would happen in a hypothetical scenario where the Superior Dragons face off against something (Ginbak) using their ability to summon small dragons from their blood, but the enemy has such an intimidating gaze that the newborn dragons, upon emerging, are so frightened they turn away?
Would they attack their parent or simply scatter?
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>>288927566
Wasn't this already answered in the last thread?
I don't really feel like talking about VERSUS in the Ragna Crimson thread. The last one archived before hitting 200 posts and almost none of it was actually about discussion over the latest chapter.
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>>288927634
I know, but it's just to pass the time. I mean, it's a flashback chapter, so there won't be much of interest and the thread won't last to hit the 500
(And no it wasn't really awnsered)

Or you can awnser things like these?
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>>288927469
Lesser dragons are definitely mindless beasts, but mature dragons seem pretty smart so they might follow orders from whoever created them.
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>>288927751
So, if a child encounters a lesser dragon or one of these enters in the streets, will the Other Superior Dragons calm it down or will it simply go wild?
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>>288927204
Lol
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>>288927469
>Humans get turned into Dragons to gain power for whatever motivations good or bad
>if you're incompatible you get turned into a mindless dragon beast
>they mentioned a test done to find compatible people so I assume if you fit the criteria you transform into a dragon that keeps their mind and acts completely human
>Dragon god installs madness into dragons, no matter how sane they are or how good they are they will all go mad over time and eat humans and think of them as nothing but worthless food

That's what i'm getting so far.
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>>288926293
I am glad I am not the only fag who believes high speed travellers need to provide protection for their normie riders.
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>>288926493
I don't need to know if cute girls clog their toilets with big shits.

Power was bad enough
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>>288927801
I'm honestly not sure. After being created they seem to just attack any humans they see or just wander around until they find humans to attack. They might be somewhat directed by their creator at the moment of their creation, but I don't know if they have complete control over them or not. Maybe the relationship is somewhat like the relationship between a lower seat and the head of the bloodline where it seems like those under the head are influenced/mind controlled to be loyal to and serve under the head (unless you're cool like Kamui) or maybe it's even stronger because lesser dragons are literally made from their creator's blood/magic.
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I wonder if we will have Versus refugees in this thread too.
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>>288928244
Are the Versus threads active/fun? I've read a bit of it, but I've never kept up to date with discussion.
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>>288928253
Yeah, like, It's essentially 13 different shonens fused into one, where the threats tormenting each of these 13 humanities clash with one another.

It's quite fun to discuss and simulate potential scenarios of what would happen if a certain encounter occurred.

(Besides, it's much more original to have the threats from the shonen anime destroy each other than a fight between MCs)

Also next month will have chapter 35, so let's do it.
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>>288927199
It took like 1 the chapter hasn't been translated that long and the raws already got dumped
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>>288928512
Yeah
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>>288926379
According to the TL in the raw thread, Shiguma Aria means something like
>the 18th Aria
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Tina is so damn fine
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>>288927173
Nephilim grew to adult form when he evolved.
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>>288929196
Oh yeah.
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>>288928118
>>if you're incompatible you get turned into a mindless dragon beast
I think you just die, if you're incompatible.
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>>288926983
Kobayashi NO!!!
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Who is Kasim?
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>>288926379
La creatura...
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>>288930348
we love little girls suffering here

>>288930511
never showed up so he is probably dead

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>>288927469
I'm telling you this fuckery is entirely doing of the dragon god and if it wanted the dragons would never had to eat humans to begin wtih or go mad either, the dragons will just be a new sacrifice for when it gets born
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>>288927566
fuck off, Ranjesh
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How am I supposed to hate the Roar again? The Sun Cult is a theocratic-fascist regime with 100% conscription rate and frequently uses its troops as fodders. On the other hand, Aysel military is voluntary and has about 10 people. Why would anyone defect to the Sun Cult from Aysel?
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>>288931155
Roar bloodlines are dr*gons. Sun Cult are people. No further explanation needed.
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>>288931469
dragons are better than people
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>>288929128
I mean, Sigmalio goes by Shiguma Rio
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>>288930511
Pretty clearly the Mist dragon.
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>>288926597
So this is loli eski and the illusion dragon Ruoxi killed right?
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>>288931155
>How am I supposed to hate the Roar again?
They're probably set-up as to how the Dragon God will eventually fuck you up and why you should never side with dragons.
>>288931543
While the average dragon with a seat would fuck up an average human. On higher tiers, what's even the point on becoming a dragon? Immortality and insane regen? Shit which the Sun Cult already solved.
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>>288931155
to repeat the hypocrisy that Jizerka said to Bagram, once he is dead it's all over and since they didn't train humans to fight they decided to fight themselves to "protect them"
it's just an issue of ideology, the ultra utilitarianism of the Sun Cult and the idealism of the Bloodline of Roars
the Sun Cult is run by retards who spawned two new bloodlines and is most likely run by yours truly Cure Crimson so go figure, even if they won it was by a hairs length
it's impossible really to hate the Roars if you look at the big picture, they were deal the poorest hand of them all
beaten by the Sun Cult or fried by a Tenran beam they're just pawns in the chessboard
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>>288931700
being named a dragon which is cool
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>>288926379
I know Bagram is about to go mad back in real time so this is probably off the table, but I just realized, couldn't he simply go "Come back to life, bloodline of roars" and revive every one of his wagies?
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>>288932637
Mana cost
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>>288930348
Lmao
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>>288926682
She's small. Children can survive falling at terminal velocity.
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>>288933377
I don't really think so
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>>288928512
I remember the results went like this:
>Dragons vs Demons
More info is needed about Demons, but lesser and mature dragons can beat basic demons and may rival demon generals but sure a Demon lord may kill a Superior Dragon or twice, in this case will be a Draw.

>Dragons vs Robots
Dragons win
Robots are overwhelming, but so are the large swarms of lesser and mature dragons.

>Dragons vs Aliens.
More info is needed about Aliens, but lesser and mature dragons would lost against Aliens, may a Dragon Monarch can face and defeat the Aliens

>Dragons vs Gaia's Wrath
Gaia's Wrath win
Lesser and mature Dragons are nothing but food for the colossal flora&fauna of the grove
Superior dragons will have to go absolute wild to survive against these Giant animals

>Dragons vs Giants
Lesser Dragons may overcome a single Giant but they will lost against a whole group of them, Mature dragon could actually give them a good fight.
Lower-rank Superior dragons are no Match against Ginbak, King of Giants.

>Dragons vs Parasites
Parasites win over lesser and even mature dragons.
Lower-rank Superior dragons probably also fall under the control of the parasites.

>Dragons vs Lawless
Dragons win
Is Mad max vs dragons, they are still humans.
but maybe a single lesser dragon gets beaten by the Lawless and even used as a Guard dog.

>Dragons vs Neo-humans
Dragons win but in small groups they can be defeated and captured by the Neo-humans.

>Dragons vs The Curse
Dragons win but this victory will depend on The Curse Machine model.

>Dragons vs World Tree
World tree wins

>Dragons vs Mad God
Mad God wins
a Dragon Monarch maybe stand for a litte before being defeated by a literal Angry God, just maybe.

>Dragons vs Kaiju
Kaiju Wins
Some Superior dragons are literal natural disasters, but they are so small compared to Daikokuzan, there's no match, not even a Dragon monarch could beat the Kaiju.
(Maybe the Dragon God)

>Dragons vs The Videogame
More information is needed about The Videogame
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>>288931155
Is Truly a Tragedy that Crimson lied to Ragna to exterminate all of the Dragons, even the Good ones.
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>>288926983
I'm betting that Kasim being Mist Dragon means he probably had low affinity hence he was never able to fully look human again and seeing him constantly always looking like a dragon was the catalyst of what sets her off.
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>>288926983
It won'e be Aria getting handed off. The Roars saw her as a traitor and Kiryu told her next time he sees her she's dead. You wouldn't say that to someone you went to the trouble of saving unless that person did something *real* drastic. My bet is Aria sees (misunderstands) something real bad, somehow gets into contact with the Solar Cult and gives them a (temporary) road thru the labyrinth to Aysel.
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>>288931543
Not all, only the Roars faction
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>>288931155
>How am I supposed to hate the Roar again?
You are not supposed to hate them.
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>>288933456
I still find kinda funny how Gaia's Wrath and Kaiju can defeat all of the dragons, especially knowing most of their power are releated to earth or nature
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>>288926833
I wanna see Kou eat someone so badly bros
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>>288926983
>1. She catches one of the dragons eating human meat
This one is the most likely. We know that the roars crew eats people, even if they likely stick to cadavers and sun cult soldiers. Seeing that would be more than enough to drive her over the deep end, especially if it's Kasim doing it.
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i don't remember wha happened when dragon god told ultimatia to go mad
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>>288926288
Other than looking for threads here, how am I supposed to keep up with the updates of series that upload on cubari?
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>>288934153
The dragon god never told ultimatia or pre-ultimatia to “go mad” per se. Ultimatia largely hallucinated a scenario for why the dragon god asked for the destruction of Ragna’s country (the cafe never existed) but the order to destroy was real. It’s also relatively vague how ultimatia ascended to the wing bloodline since the dragon god is still unconfirmed to actually have a presence (at least temporally, we know it’s some kind of ethereal magic entity that does exist) and didn’t particularly give her any instruction other than that she would have power to resist the sun saint’s wrath.
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>>288933588
We’ve seen that some Superior Dragons become more humanoid over time, like the ones from the Bloodline of Wings we saw from the other future, so it could just be a case of him being slower to improve.
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>>288934153
Is kinda weird that the Dragon God is Literally nothing but a Litte girl that kinda looks like ultimatia
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>>288934402
That's just what she interpreted its presence as. Same way Bagram likely sees it as his dead waifu.
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>>288934619
Crimson said that the Dragon God is a Little girl, literally the reason why the Winged faction started to attack humanity is because a Baker shop burned down.
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>>288934402
>Dragon God is Literally nothing but a Litte girl
dragon god doesnt have a form, crimson saw it as an omnipotent being and bagram sees it as whatever that girl was
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>>288932671
This is dragon abuse
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>>288934851
And what about the motivation of exterminate all of humanity just because a Baker shop?
Doesn't seems a little weird all of this?
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>>288935155
people believe that the destruction of the cities were instructions of the dragon god but the way she sees/receives orders is thru that child cause she is fucked in the head
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>>288935408
was it even a order she saw a little girl playing with blocks and they falling and went "THE CITIES MUST BE PURGED THEY ARE NO T IN GOD MIND"
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>she saw a little girl playing with blocks and they falling and went "THE CITIES MUST BE PURGED THEY ARE NO T IN GOD MIND"
is that in the anime?
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>>288935712
chapter 8, also the god destroying a country because it went out bussiness makes no sense it literally doesn't exist yet, it was probably the favorite baker of ultimatia. It didn't even know what Lese was
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>>288935764
i see now, but thats after she received the instructions, anyways it doesnt matter, all monarchs see their own version of the dragon god
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>>288935814
yeah,it makes me wonder if the orders they get could also vary based on how they perceive the dragon god
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>>288935764
Oh so the Baker shop didn't burn?
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>>288936258
he said it was robbed and they had to close >288935712
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>>288931155
Probably the next chapter explains why you're supposed to hate them. My guess is the transformation usually results in some people being eaten.
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>>288936289
Oh i see.
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>>288926537
Oh wait thats the arab dragon?
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>>288937062
its the scaly one that have dragon head even in human form
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>>288926597
>that was Eski
I miss her
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>>288937062
no, that was skyrim
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>>288933456
>Dragons vs Aliens.
>More info is needed about Aliens, but lesser and mature dragons would lost against Aliens, may a Dragon Monarch can face and defeat the Aliens
I mean, The King of Roars could summon a Black hole, no other faction than the Aliens can summon Space-things like that.
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>>288934158
You can get pinged for new chapters on the RC discord
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>>288935961
So... this God ordered the Roars to Protect their humans?
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>>288937427
And the fact that a mere human was able to cut it in two like an apple is simply surreal.
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>>288927260
>tragedy
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>>288937062
Imagine a Indiana Jones Reference here.
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>>288937768
Ageless' power was pretty much fine crafted to cut it conceptually. Cutting things that can't be cut is really broken.
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>>288934046
Borgius have no chance against World tree but does he have some kind of Counter against Gaia's Wrath in his Godly form?

Does Gaia's Wrath have also some kind of guardian spirits of the forest?
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>>288926493
Gargantina's gargantuan shits. >>288926662
I find it funny that this place is a literal "multicultural paradise".
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>Arc 2
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>>288939743
Is funny how slime is the Punching bag of this manga.
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>>288926293
The way she pounts... so sad.
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>>288926788
>The only reason Ruoxi is still a human is because she did not want to become a hideous monster for probably mere days with her potential
Good girl
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>>288939759
It really is hehe
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>>288931155
The Roars are repeatedly humanized so you're not supposed to hate them. Ragna hates the Cult too and the only reason he's working with them is because them crashing leads to a fuck ton of people dying. Way more people live in the cult or are connected to it than a single underground city and they will all die if the Roars win against the Cult. That's not even to mention that the Roars would get their asses kicked by the other bloodlines when they attack in the near future which would lead to Aysel being destroyed anyways. The Roars are up to this point still working (begrudgingly or not) towards that whole world magic shit too. Also, the whole point of this part of the story is for Ragna to become the new leader so you can expect that he (or someone close to him) will reform the Cult once TOTAL DRAGON DEATH is achieved.
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>>288940024
She'd have probably only been minutes tier like Barrier Cuck was
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>>288938893
Borgius recovers through human blood; imagine what he would be like if he were to depend on the blood of the Beasts of Gaia's Wrath, or worse, the Parasite-Infected variants?
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>>288939759
Slime is literally made for correction.
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>>288939256
Yeah, also i have to be because dragons can force them to live in peace
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>>288938893
This guy artstyle reminds me a lot to The Dragon Summum's
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what do they feed 22 million dragons?
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>>288941277
Magical creatures i guess?
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>>288931023
No
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>>288926704
She still sleeps on the couch
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>>288942268
Oh fug, now I feel slightly more sorry for her and wish her a slightly swifter death
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>>288934851
>>288935408
The idea of the Almighty Dragon God being a little girl is actually quite funny but interesting, given the implications it can have.

I mean, dragons are strong, dragon kings and dragon monarchs can do things that defy all logic, these fairytale beasts are so powerful, simply because a child's mind wanted them to be that way.
(You know, the knight who has to save the princess from the dragon; a child would imagine the dragon as a powerful being)

I mean, a child's imagination knows no bounds.
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>>288942518
>wasting a good pair of tiddies
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>>288942545
If you think the dragon god as an elder god type being, and every dragon on earth is a part of its body, simultaneously being each one a neuron, and the higher tiers being the embodiment of different aspects of its being, it makes sense that it's little more than an adolescent. Its birth was likely during the event which beget dragons on earth to begin with, it had nothing to parent or guide it. And as a nigh-omnipotent being that can control any part of its body at will to destroy anything it doesn't like, there's probably little that could openly influence it to begin with.
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>>288942518
She will either die trying to protect the people of Aysel from the king madness, or join him in his madness and kills herself once she realizes the terrible things they did to the people they wanted to protect.
Like Crimson said only pure suffering awaits her from now on.
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>>288942545
that scene si interesting the dragon god had no form until ultimatia looked and saw it holding the head and then it transformed
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I wonder if the faceless Rex in Crimson's flashback was the actual thing, or if it was the dragon god pulling his strings when the things initially went down the shitter.
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>>288943009
I think crimson cuts his strings long ago already
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>>288942669
Kino
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Bump
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I wonder if im the only one who doesn't feel anything when they humanize enemies like the dragons or Meruem. Dangerous threats to humanity that operate on a different morality system fails to move me
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>>288943954
i simply don't see their morality as much different so i don't really have that problem
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>>288943954
If anything it makes me angry because one way or another they're going to have to be killed eventually.
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>>288944025
I get the point the sun cult and dragons are similar and both bad, but I just don't care. Yes dragons were once human but they still get magically brainwashed and are a threat to humanity
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>>288943954
Winged Dragons were evil.
(Expect for one at the very end)
Roars seemed to be good until all of the Roars King's thugs were slain by Ragna and Crimson.
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>>288944240
i dont really care about the threat of humanity either, humanity is too self-destructive so i'm kinda numb unless they are more mindless or indians
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>>288944258
They still are brainwashed when they are turned into dragons and lose all hatred towards dragons even the ones that wronged them. I imagine that peace would truly be impossible if it would hinder the dragon god's goals
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>>288943954
Well, you have them:
>>288933456
Pure Evilness killing each other, this is why a lot of people love Versus.
The Natural enemies aren't that much "humanized"
(And why they should if they are meant to be humanity's natural predators)
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>>288944332
True but they were protecting humans, why they were protecting their "natural prey" will be shown next month.
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I think I would be more sympathetic towards dragons if there wasn't a dragon god and the brainwashing part of the transformation.
It is easier to be sympathetic also to something that either wants to coexist or be left alone rather than be in complete control
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>>288944458
Let's see how it goes.
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>>288928253
>Are the Versus threads active/fun?
Yes but these don't last long... especially due this month's hiatus
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>>288926879
the "tragedy"
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>>288926879
I can't wait to see the "tragedy" of that Fateful day.
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>More dragon propaganda
I'm tired boss.
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>>288933456
I would say that conceptually, Dragons are the Demons of Ragna's world; it would definitely be a tie if the s
Superior Dragons faced the Demon Lords.
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>>288935087
Dragons are horrifying creatures that will inevitably destroy humanity. They deserve to be broomed
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>>288946525
Lol
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>>288946462
Dragons have the variety of Demons, the numbers of Robots, the Fierce nature of Gaia's Wrath, some have the Power of the Aliens, and even their own Mad God.
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>>288946201
Kek
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>>288939210
the backstory of the half-dragon twins was the funniest in the way it was shown; it's brief and only serves to show how they put firecrackers up Slime's butt.
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>>288947564
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>>288931155
1. their presence does nothing to stop the world magic which rapes the world so hard crimson has to timeloop
2. they are dragons so no matter how good they are as time goes on their sanity/inhibitions will erode like the original 5
3. they are weak sissies who are at the mercy of the other bloodlines/dragon god
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>>288927745
>so there won't be much of interest and the thread won't last to hit the 500
Sad, don't let this thread sink.
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>>288926493
Massive dragon shits bigger than your leg
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>>288947923
To be fair their little micro Kingdom feels more like a a last ditch, desperate attempt, to ensure at least some humans survive the coming dragon apocalypse, rather than a well thought out long term plan.
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>>288931155

You aren't, their purpose in the story is to show that there are sympathetic dragons. And the fact that it's not going to work in the long run due to the dragon god
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>>288942518
I can see some scenario where ruoxi tries to protect Tina from being killed by ragna.
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>>288947923
> they are dragons so no matter how good they are as time goes on their sanity/inhibitions will erode like the original 5
all the brainwashing is only mentioned by winged bloodline, who is not very reliable. Crimson wasn't brainwashed and it is unclear if Rex ever was. Gilzea never cares and Banko went mad because of Rex, not the Dragon God. And Sigmlaio seems to have ulterior motive. Only Ultimatia and Tenran really had a personality change. The sample size is about 8 total and only 2 are definitely confirmed, 1 definitely resisted and the others are unclear.

I think Bagram can resist it, like Crimson did. The "eventually all dragons are corrupted" gimmick is overemphasized. This isn't like 40k Chaos.
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>>288933456
Dragons should win against everyone but God. What's Kaiju gonna do against a time freeze or causality inversal? Dragons only struggle in RC because there are magic nullifiers but without silver, they sweep most Versus match up
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>>288933588
This is probably the answer, I'd also add that the low affinity is caused by Kasim having already inherited dragon traits that clash with the ones of Bagram.

Low affinity = bigger personality change + inability to revert back to human + stronger dragon instincts. The latter will cause Aria to find him eating Sun cultists' corpses.
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We need more leo
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>>288933588
He almost definetly is
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>>288950428
Moon bitch having a breakdown pretty much confirms there's some kind of inevitable mental manipulation going on when you become a dragon. It can be inferred that Wings was especially batshit insane because they were mostly random people and former dragon hunters who had to cope with the insane cognitive dissonance. Meanwhile Roars is more well put together because they all respected Bagram and his mission to begin with and were willing to take on the risks. Crimson isn't a good measuring stick for this since he's long since given up his power and we don't know if the dragon mental manipulation specifically makes you love the god, or simply opens you up to their fuckery.
>>288950289
Tina is 100% going to be the one to actually take Bagram down.
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>>288953544
Oh and crimsons sociopathic behavior may be a direct result of his time as a dragon.
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>>288942545
There is a chance the dragon god will turn out to be a little girl but it's because kobayashi can torture a new loli and see everyone cheer on it
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>>288953999
Oh
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>>288950455
>Dragons should win against everyone
That if you give them the plot armor
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>>288953592

Even if his personality wasn't affected by the dragonification, you are bound to become jaded after doing god knows how many time loops where you see everything falling apart.
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>>288951748
She is, for now, like a jumbled puzzle in an apocalyptic territory prone to natural disasters, which, according to Crimson, is New York.
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I wonder if the dragon god is even real, as in something that existed since the dragons became a thing. Or just something like a hypnosis placed on the less reliable bloodline leaders to ensure they work on the completion of world magic.
Crimson knew what it was and Bagram and Altimecia experienced it firsthand, but did the other kings ever mention the god?
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>>288944458
Good. Dragons are evil. Total dragon death.
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>>288952957
So he is that large Cobra with eyes?
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>>288954418
I believe sigmalio mentioned the dragon god in one of his short moments, interesting theory though. I think at the current moment though it’s very likely the dragon god is real (even if not “real” in the sense of existence) and related to “world magic”. As far as brainwashing goes I’m fine with accepting shonen-tier “it’s a willpower thing” given that most of the kings shown have exhorbitantly high constitution (Gilzea is a battle nut, Crimson a hateful murder hobo, Sigmalio murder hobo, Glest is a robot larper, Roars are Heroes of Justice™) or some combination with the original dragons are special and retained their personalities. Carla being easy to brainwash checks out though, she didn’t have enough constitution to stay in the sun cult and didn’t have enough constitution to handle her magic getting beaten by one random dude. Hopefully after this arc we get more gilzea & an old world expo dump on why New York is a nuclear crater.
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>>288953592
Could be, but Crimson also feels like the kind of guy who was probably always a freak and dragonification just sanded off whatever tiny bit of empathy was left. You don't become "I'll genocide my own species and also use everyone as disposable tools" purely from a bad lizard phase. The time loops probably did more damage than the scales.
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>>288952957
Nice catch
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>>288954589
He is
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>>288954763
i doon' think transforming into dragon change the person mentality much at least when they keep reason, so yeah crimson was probably always a freak
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>>288954673

I think it's convenient that the two kings we saw witnessing the dragon god happened to be the second generation ones. But it does raise the question about how Crimson knew the god's true nature. Was he also compelled when he was a dragon, or was it something the original six developed? Like it might be that the world magic is just Sigmalio's project and he is essentially hypnotizing the rest by dragon god telling kings to complete world magic and the bloodlines being controlled by their respective king.
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>>288950455
Demons and robots are as numerous as dragons, yet they were still crushed by aliens, giants, and the kaiju.
Even with these traits:
>>288946989
The results don't lie; it's simply a matter of power scaling.
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>>288954916
if you think about it the older generation dragon king don't really give a shit about the dragon god or dislike it

>>288955026
doesnt stop time stop and other bullshit
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>>288955142
To clarify, the Dragons are the Demons of Ragna's world.
Their warfare is similar: Lesser Dragons are standard troops/cannon fodder that appear in massive numbers; Mature Dragons are shock troops/artillery/especial units of various types that are not as numerous; Lower-ranking Superior Dragons are like Commanders; Superior Dragons are Generals; and above them are the Dragon King and the Dragon Monarch.

For example, if the Aliens intervened in the Sun Cult's war against the Roars Dragons, five of these aliens would have been enough to exterminate the whole first, second and third enemy waves.
Some might defeat the Superior Dragons, but the King of Roars could defeat them with his magic that creates black holes... unless the Aliens could counter that attack.
(again, is a space thing)

>doesnt stop time stop and other bullshit
This is why we need more info about the Aliens, being space things, maybe, just maybe they can also control time.
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>>288955245
Yeah but then we would need to wait to see more info in the other dragon kings and see what they are capable about too
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>>288941152
What an underrated game...
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>>288954197
It's quite interesting how, when Crimson arrives in the United States where the Statue of Liberty stands looking for Leo, finds himself is a barren wasteland ravaged by lightning storms and teeming with powerful dragons, the only thing remaining of the Statue its her head.
It truly seems to be the country that suffered the worst punishment, whatever happened in the past with the Old World and the dragons.
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Who was Kasim again
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>>288956299
The Dumb boy here.
>>288926627
>>288926645
For now we don't know what became of him, but we do see some of the Superior dragons in their youth, one before being eaten by Slime and the other before having her skull kicked into pieces by Ragna.
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bump again
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>>288955245
kino
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>>288956103
Interesting.
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>>288958724
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>>288958779
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>>288958779
>>288958748
Was it mentioned if the second seat survived agaisnt the king or he was made an exception?
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>>288958821
No idea
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>>288929111
Kek, hell being a white empty space
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>>288947575
The poster is funny to, a great gaslight for what's next page
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>>288933456
>Dragons vs Gaia's Wrath
>Gaia's Wrath win
>Lesser and mature Dragons are nothing but food for the colossal flora&fauna of the grove
>Superior dragons will have to go absolute wild to survive against these Giant animals

Honestly, it would be fun to see the Dragons seeing their element turned against them, mother nature reminding them their place.

I can imagine a group of small dragons fighting against giant ants.
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>>288930683
So tiny...
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>>288952957
Makes sense.
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>>288931155
>How am I supposed to hate the Roar again?
They're dr*gons and they aren't actively contributing to TDD like Crimson, they can go fuck themselves for all I care
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>>288946989
Even so, they still have a long way to go... and ironically, Ragna is their natural enemy.
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Ahem.

Total Dragon Death.
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>>288958724
I forgot, do we know what happened to the previous king of roars?
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>>288960630
I don't think so. I'd assume it's what turned Crimson rogue though.
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>>288959570
>giant ants
gi-ants.
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>>288960445
Ragna, at the point he's at now, shouldn't even be considered "human" anymore; any human would have died trying to do what he's capable of.
It's as if he doesn't realize he's beyond being a superhuman.
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>>288954418

I'm guessing given the Guilty Gear/Blazblue influence on the series Crimson and the other 1st gen monarchs were scientists researching infinite energy (magic) to avert WW3, but they failed to save the world and summoned the Dragon God as well.
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>>288960807
Won't last, neither the smaller dragons.
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>>288961114
It would be equally curious, I mean, a dragon like Olto Zora, after the dimensional chaos, proceeds to explore the area where he had unleashed his small dragons, but realizes that he cannot sense them, so he goes to where the human village is supposed to be, but what he finds in his place is a mountain of ground-up corpses. He realizes that something killed all his dragons, but also wiped out all the humans in that area that make up the mountains, in addition to seeing huge human footprints and X-shaped marks on the buildings.
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>>288926526
She deserved better...
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Ragna crimson x Versus Collab will be legendary.
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>>288933377
Really?
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>>288961114
>>288961253
The most interesting matchup for me would be Temruogtaf, the Glutton Dragon, vs. Gaia's Wrath.

Without realizing what he was eating a human chef, his walking forest had reached its destination, and he decided to investigate.
He discovered that where there should have been a human city, there was now a vast jungle. The Verdant Forest had spread, assimilating the entire human settlement. He also sensed something was wrong: his dragons were being attacked by giant ants. So he sent out his mature dragons (a species of enormous, agile Komodo dragons that could turn invisible). They managed to crush and devour the ants, but all the noise attracted other predators.
Temruogtaf decided to turn his forest around, but unbeknownst to him, a giant python had managed to enter his forest. Since this animal could sense Temruogtaf's mature dragons with its tongue, it detected them and defeated them. He realized this and thought it was a rival dragon, and the two began to fight.
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>>288961253
I find it curious that there were giants here who use spears; perhaps only the weaker giants use them since they can take down anything on their own without using weapons.
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>>288961419
She deserved the same fate as every other dragon.
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>>288962653
Well she have it, glad not being eaten by slime.
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>>288962653
The "great" Kasim
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>>288948478
At this rate, the thread won't last until tomorrow.
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>>288944452
Humans protect cows from coyotes too. Some even grow attached. Doesn't stop people from butchering them by the million. After all, a docile food source is much easier to deal with.
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>>288948478
its ok not like there was much going on in this chapter desu
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>>288963299
Shame.
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>>288931155
Because they are dragons, duh.
This is a TDD thread.
Dragon sympathizers are NOT welcomed.
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>>288933377
This is true
I once threw myself from the 4th floor of my building when I was 6 to see if I could survive it.
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>>288955245
>Alien
Bagram can just tell them to die and they will. You forget the entire reason the Sun Cult doesn't roll over and die because they hide behind silver wall with massive solar aura protecting them.
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>>288965121
Didn't he call the Earth for that?
The aliens aren't exactly from Earth.
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>>288965597
Like the Demons, the Aliens will underestimate the power of the Dragons just because they are earthly beings.
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>>288965775
As they did to the other factions
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>>288965791
If something on Earth can summon a black hole just by calling Earth, that's something aliens should be wary of.
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>>288965811
Honestly, the Dragon Kings, even Dylesleif, the Flow Control Dragon, could defeat the Aliens; that's the power scale. Being high-ranking Superior Dragons, they can defeat one alien at a time.
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It's funny that the Roar dragons are such massive shitters compared to the Wing dragons, even if Ulti herself was a complete shitter her other seats completely stomp these idiots.
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>>288965849
Well, it is later revealed that the alien's greatest weakness is magic, and dragons, being magical beings, have great advantages against them, especially the higher-ranking Superior dragons.
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>>288966093
Also showing us what happens when an alien is killed.
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>>288966161
Is just hilarious.
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>>288965121
>>288965775
I can image the Sun Cult and Ragna's faction doing this with the other 13 humanities.
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>>288966283
Lmao
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>>288950428
Yeah
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>>288939210
>>288939235
>>288939258
>>288939423
kek
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>>288933456
>Dragons vs Giants
>Lesser Dragons may overcome a single Giant but they will lost against a whole group of them, Mature dragon could actually give them a good fight.
>Lower-rank Superior dragons are no Match against Ginbak, King of Giants.

I can genuinely imagine a giant being cornered by dragons, and then a medium dragon appears and they both start fighting.
It would be a fair fight; a regular giant is on the same level as a medium dragon.
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Ragna owes Ruoxi sex btw
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>>288967595
Slime-sama...
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Told you fags this is a “not all dragon” arc
Ragna will realize his mistake for being a racist and a hypocrisy (already working with Crimson) and we’ll have more humans teaming up with dragons soon
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>>288967761
Anon, there is a 90% chance that Tina will be forced to help Ragna kill a rampaging Bagram, which will inevitably lead to her own death. After that there are no """"good"""" dragons left.
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>>288966020
I guess that's partly because the Wings have more than an entire kingdom to find talented people where as the Roars have one small city.
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>>288967761
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>>288926293
He was created? Does that mean he was never a human but is rather a robot turned flesh via dragonization...? Interesting...
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>>288966283
Does the Cult of the Sun truly fear Dragons enough to argue with other humanities that their natural enemy is stronger, or do they believe themselves superior, while the saints comically arrogantly call the other 13 humanities a bunch of crybabies?
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>>288968400
Feels like
>>288958779
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>>288965811
>Meu and Uho, 2 aliens were investigating 2 of the great areas of Gaia's wrath
>Communication have ceased

This could only imply that the strongest animals in Gaia's Wrath were able to wipe out the alien explorers in the same way a demon lord like Jachi could.
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>>288931155
They operate a literal fucking death valley with millions of dragons that eats people in the region and they are complicit in the schemes of the other dragons wiping out humanity whenever they please. Who cares if they protect a small city, the dragon niggers are the entire reason that the Sun Cult has to exist in such a drastic state and they protect much more people.
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>>288968400
Maybe he was a cyborg or some other experiment before becoming a dragon?
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>>288963299
These threads should last a little bit long...
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>>288951748
OxO
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>>288951748
>>288954197
>>288956103
>Ragna doesn't know that Leo was taken as an apprentice by the Dragoness of Claws.
>Crimson went to find her in the United States, where there is only destruction caused by dragons.
>Leo is just a disarmed corpse in a huge magic circle, and the Dragoness of Claws is going to hand her over to Crimson.
>Crimson will surely revive her somehow, but he will use her to subdue Ragna so that he can do whatever he wants.

Crimson you Bastard.
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>>288969306
No...
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I bet the undead saint diddling with the shard of Banko ends up either property resurrecting him. Or the saint becoming the king of bones.
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>>288967449
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>>288969760
How, exactly?
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>>288962999
Hope it does
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>One of the Coolest Dragon designs ever.
>He appears briefly, only to be killed by Ragna in order to gain Crimson's trust.
>He is omitted from the anime.
>(The anime is very unfaithful btw)

What's up with that?
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>>288926379
>suddenly Ruoxi has a Japanese name
What, did Daiki's editor tell him the only Asian good guy can't be Chinese? This seem like a weird retcon to throw in a flashback
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>>288970046
Have you forgotten she just fled from Japan? Aria is her original name, same as all of Sigmalio's other daughters, we've known this for ages.
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>>288969778

idk magic and shit
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>>288967860
How many delicious brown women will have to die before this is over?



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