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Chapter 189: You Haven't Changed

Locked Room Mystery! Have a drink!

Archive:
https://desuarchive.org/a/search/subject/daily%20kengan/start/2025-12-14/order/asc/
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I just got home, your ''timing'' proves we are in sync, ''me''.
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I am taking a "dump". In a way, "we" are in "sync" too.
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>TWO AIR RENDINGS?
>ITS ALWAYS SUPPOSED TO BE AIR TENDING INTO EARTH CROUCHING DRAGON
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>>288941296
Koga culo...
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Based autistga
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dragon king bros...are we fucking frauds?
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Chapter 190: Last-Ditch Effort
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>(NA) in filenames
OP.......
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Forgot to toggle a layer.
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>the spin CAN'T do that
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comedy manga
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>>288941438
wait....im trying to kill....my best friend????
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>>288941219
>Is he using the Gaoh Style?!
I thought the kazzy character assassination was overblown but this re-read is a real eye opener.
They straight up lobotomized him.
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>>288941276
That top panel is pretty cathartic after all this woe-is-me murder hobo bullshit.
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>>288941238
Devs pls nerf. You can't just have a rush that can be switched 50/50 midway. Only Alisa can do that.
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Kaolan Widesawat
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EVERY

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>>288941504
I thought the liver kicks were our signature moves, Kogabros...
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Chapter 191: You Were There
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>>288941504
>INTENSE EXCHANGE
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>>288941296
Gaoh style is a joke.
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>>288941492
Top panel is really funny.
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>>288941593
really need a collage or count of every panel of kazzy mouth agape exclaiming "he did THIIIS??" so far
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>>288941652
>Two retards fighting
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>>288941254
>OH MY GOD IS HE COMBINING MOVES FROM THE TWO FIGHTING STYLES WE ESTABLISHED HE KNOWS AND USES?!
...How exactly to people in the Kenganverse think a fighting style works / what do they think it is? They're martial art moves, not some kind of magic spells you can't mix to- wait a minute...
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>>288941627
>Ohma seething that Koga is making use of "his" Niko Style
Lole
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I feel like I’m reading Naruto with rasengan vs chidori. Holy fuck just go back to normal martial arts without this signature move bullshit
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>>288941678
Monkey'd
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>>288941678
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
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DONE
>dump eet
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>>288941678
Post ch.50 Omega has a mountain of problems but this moment was peak.
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>>288941392
That has been there for a while
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>>288941719
>Le murderous intent
I mean I guess he's mad this time
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>>288941276
POW HAHA!
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>>288941627
Where are his thumbs.
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>>288941360
The rare non jobber SHYEEEAAAHHH
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>>288941678
SEE RYUKI YOU FUCKING RETARD, THAT'S HOW YOU USE IT
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>>288941678
I've talked to the other skeletons and we've decided to roll with Koga now
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>>288941447
boyfriend*
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>>288941729
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>>288941650
FUCK
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>>288941817
>/a/non literally every second page
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>>288941492
If I was a better editor I'd have that top panel be them jerking each other off (for comedy).
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>>288941492
>>288941652
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>>288941567
>I finally got the "timing" right, Ohma...
>you were awesome Ryuki
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>>288941219
A ENEMY STAND!?
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>>288941788
>>288941794
Hehe
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>>288941678
>Raw super
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>>288941733
It would land better if they didn't have everyone shit on Yumigahama for copying techniques while having Koga be everyone's pal that they teach to copy. It really should have ben that Yumigahama is lazy and sloppy with his technique grabbing, only learning the basics and just throwing them out without actually learning the right way to use them, while Koga actually learns the right way to use them and the right "timing" for using them to make the two of them into foils for one another so we wouldn't have to think back to everyone shitting on copying when a legit good moment like this comes up.
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>>288941492
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>>288941593
I'm starting to think Sandro really just wanted to write some videogame-rules fantasy isekai slop the way everything in Omega converges towards feeling like arbitrary RPG nonsense.
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>>288941635
So Ryuki's discount indestructible lets him tank two flashing steel's to the chest and he can still get up but a single flashing steel took out the guy with a 400 undefeated streak?
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>>288941678
After years of dealing with his bullshit that's a really satisfying hit
Ryuki got really annoying post Naidan
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>>288941937
I don't think it's fair to compare Koga and Ohma
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>>288941658
Those are daro's hands after doing 12 hour days of prompting.
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>>288941729
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>>288941678
Well that was pretty kino
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>>288941315
Koga "The Fist Brain" Narushima
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>>288941650
He is alive?
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>>288941773
Ai isnt good with hands
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>>288941733
The problem with Omega is that all the moments that are cool in isolation are insanely retarded in the context of what happens before and after them. It's not just less than the sum of its parts, it's like the parts are constantly actively fighting with each other.
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>>288941658
IS THAT NIKO STYLE: IRON KATA, PUPPETEER?
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>>288941329
This is such a cathartic page.
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>>288942101
he's not, that's just gas escaping
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>>288941329
Isn't Rakshasha and Blink kinda new though...?
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>>288941678
THATS HOW YOU USE A LOW START UP MEATY, NOT AS A STRING START BUT AS A PUNISH WHEN YOUR OPP IS AT MINUS

FUCKING RETARD
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>>288941244
He just keeps innovating!
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>>288942108
The more I look at it the less sense it makes
Does he have 6 fingers?
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>>288941729
looking back on it is this the very moment shen decideds to kill grandpa gaoh?
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>>288941287
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>>288941329
I mean he's right I guess
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>>288941678
W-what? A good moment? In MY Kengan Omega?!
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>>288941238
Holy shit he used Air Rending first!
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>>288942077
lol it's so dumb but I love it
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>>288941729
But he is pretty chill
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>>288941254
Okay stop.
Blink is just you moving while the opponent is blinking.
In that time you slip into a blind spot.
In the air, right on front of the opponent is the exact opposite of a blind spot.
Not only that, but the whole point of Air Rending is that it's already a 50/50 mix-up between it and Earth-Crouching.
This is like, the worst use of Blink imaginable.
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>>288941678
This move has worked twice.
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>>288941329
He is right, why was he even invited against purgatory.
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>>288941296
>I've seen Gaoh Style before
>You put your own spin on them
The only person you've seen use them is Ryuki. The base is Ryuki. You're fighting Ryuki. You're fighting the base. You've seen Ryuki before.
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>>288941773
>>288942171
His thumbs are the noticeably larger fingers that are behind the other four.
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>>288941329
>Your neutral sucks
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Wait, so now it's going to be discount Kuroki vs discount Ohma?
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>>288942240
We're past pretending techniques have any rhyme or reason and fairly firmly into techniques are specialised magic bullshit that does stuff because it just does.
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>>288941372
Oh he learned the footjob too.
Why did we pretend that Kiryu taught him the base Koei too, when his own innovations are supposedly better?
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>>288942286
His "thumb" is in line with the rest of his fingers though like he's a raccoon or something
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>>288942323
I think you're looking at the wrong finger, and either way they're supposed to be all twisted weird.
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>>288941678
Actually pretty cool ending I just don't love all the steps to get here.
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>>288941172
Any new readers still here, or have they all bounced?
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>>288941650
Fcuknugget Adam.
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>>288941445
>>288941452
Fucking hell. Not only does shit like this make Omega worse it's even actively undermining Asura too.
All of a sudden flexing really hard is enough to counteract Rakshasa's Palm.
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>>288941729
Me reading 130 to the tragedy just waste after waste.
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AIshit compilation of some we've seen the past few days.
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>>288941627
No look his thumbs are here
The thumbs shouldn't be at the end of the palm like that even if his hands are all fucked up, they should be lower
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>>288941329
I get the point but he didn't have koei style two years ago
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>>288941729
You know this feels like a surprise intro to him, and not... the 15th time his name pops up.
You know what I mean, right? The guy was hanging around at the tournament, having a good time, you get some alcoholic characterization to him, he leaves, and the reveal drops? Classic stuff.
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>>288941937
Ohma is leagues apart from Koga.
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>>288942444
Only one of the two you circled is his thumb.
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>>288941697
"Me" too, "Me".
"Me" too.
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>>288942444
>anon doesn't understand perspective
It is a bit of a tangent error on the artist's part but for his left hand (on our right) that's the base of his index, not the start of his thumb. It's just that they're aligned so it looks like it. It's consistent with how the other fingers are bulging out from where they're supposed to attach.
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>>288941937
Tbf as shown with Ohma and Fei they all have various levels of proficiency with the Niko style. So they just do better ig
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>>288941678
KWAB
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>>288942455
100%
This should have been the name drop reveal.
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>>288942383
I'm still here, "me".
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>>288942557
But then you'd have to cut some femboy ryona.
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>>288942383
I've not read this part up until Five Night's.
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>>288942174
That was self defense
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>>288941329
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>>288942077
>I've been doing a lot of thinking lately.
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>>288941254
This is physically hurting me.
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>>288942577
Not if you reorder scenes.
Because it's all a mess anyways.
Koga vs. Xia Ji should be after BB.
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>>288941267
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vL8RODWfuAQ
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>>288941686
Koga looked pretty good with that bandage. He should've started wearing headbands
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>>288942639
You can go limp to disperse the damage
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>>288941329
Uhh...............EARTH CROUCHING DRAGON!!!
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>>288942629
Good shit
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>>288942629
He was so real for this
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>>288942629
>mods, get this nigga banned
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>>288941219
I was gonna comment about the stand but
>is he using the gaoh style?!
Completely threw me out of it. What the FUCK is wrong with you Kazzy?
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>>288941219
>Is he using his <one move>???
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>>288941244
>he realized the error of his ways and will be spamming air rending from now on
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>>288941863
It really does look like he's summoning a punch ghost instead of crouching down.
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>>288941678
Not gonna lie, got a bit of a pop from me
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>>288942639
Don't listen to that faggot, use indestructible instead
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>>288941219
>Koga, I...
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>>288942283
He's referring to Ryuki mixing them with the koei style somehow
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>>288941678
is this what running simulations over and over achieves?
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>>288941296
Didn't THE LEGEND Himuro Ryo explain this to you?
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>>288942077
Now he looks like that guy from how I met your mother
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>>288941219
>is my nephew really best friends with a violent gay schizophrenic
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>>288942629
Koga, the Frame Data Eye
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>>288941329
I mean on one hand he is still spamming the same two techniques, but on the other he has actually learned a new style (that coincidentally also only has two techniques)
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>>288941650
Adam always has such insightful commentary.
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>>288941348
Alisa's bloodthirst has been awakened
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>>288941678
Poetry
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>>288941329
>People being confused by Koga's comments about Ryuki using the same moves when he learned Blink and Rakshasa's Palm
I think what he means is Ryuki's fighting style is still the same regardless of incorporating the Koei style into his moveset. Gaoh Style is all about surprise finisher moves and the Koei style only has the two techniques that lend to it, so at best Ryuki's just a bit trickier now than before but once you get past the trick Ryuki has nothing to work with again

>>288941678
I'd be red in the face with embarrassment if the dude I perceived as weaker than me K.O'D me with my own trademark technique
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>>288942322
Would have been a good time to show the evolution of the koei style over the past several years, maybe even have a moment where Kuroki feels conflicted because the style comes from his friend's murderer but at the same time said murderer has advanced it further, which is what his master would have wanted.
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>>288941445
So indestructible just makes you immune to the swirlies if you can keep it up?
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>>288941719
>Some people the unfortunate luck of spotting anon out and about.
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>>288941492
>two metapods fighting
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>>288941537
Don't worry Ryuki, Koga will never go limp for you
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>>288941579
>>288941593
Would be incredibly funny if this killed him
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>>288941219
>immediately laughs once he sees Ryuki use the Lmaoh style AGAIN

>>288942240
Blink is /described/ as moving in the blind spot, but it's basically treated as just teleportation.

>>288941276
Seeing him get punched is very satisfying.

>>288941329
Local man seething at how incredibly btfo he got. On the other hand, not everyone is as mysteriously well-liked as Koga, with teachers coming left and right out of the bushwork to teach him their techniques to add to his repertoire. If Yumi had this aura, he wouldn't have needed to do what he did.

>>288941348
Alise is so over this gay conversation.
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>>288942077
/fitlit/
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>>288941794
Lmao
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>>288941678
Is this NTR?
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>>288942383
I'm planning on staying until I at least see that one Shen page.
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>>288941729
Thanks OP
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>>288941400
Niko style users really all keep saying "it's the same type of stand!" like shit like indestructible isn't an incredibly basic technique that apparently anyone can figure out by themselves.

>>288941405
Insane aura loss posture. Ryuki looks so butthurt here.

>>288941438
If he actually killed Koga here, Kazzy would do some hemming and hawing again how inviting Ryuki to this tournament was a mistake, but he still wouldn't disqualify him.

>>288941445
>lol didn't hurt
>lol didn't hurt
>lol didn't hurt

>>288941492
>lol didn't hurt vs lol didn't hurt
What a high level exchange!
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>>288942383
Still holding on
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>>288942663
>>288942790
Isn't that how you shit yourself?
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>>288942455
Yeah this would have been way better than his original intro.
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>>288941593
Koga leveled up mid-fight and learned an armor-piercing skill.

>>288941627
>Ryuki's armorclad is equivalent to the niko style's indestructible
Wow, thank you Sandro, I really didn't notice this until now.

>>288941650
>>288941658
Oh my god, Koga even learned the power of friendship now.

>>288941678
Alright, I'll admit it, this is a fucking hilarious way to end the fight. Good decision by Sandro.
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>>288942383
Still reading. The quality drop has been very noticable, but it still has its good moments, like the ending to this fight just now.
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>>288942383
I'm seeing this all the way through to the end. There are still Omega memes I don't have context for.
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>>288941678
Ok, Omega can have this moment.
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>>288941276
>ecd is punishable on hit
what was Sandro thinking with this nerf
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>>288941678
>ryuki isnt even the best crouching dragon user anymore
This is beyond a humiliation ritual
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>doesn't open with Earth Crouching Dragon
>lose
See? Do you see? Do you FUCKING see?
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>>288941678
Honestly still the most kino part of this arc, ryuki getting styled on with his own move getting its proper use case done by someone else
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>>288941348
>Alisa wants BLOOD
>she wanta some GUTS and GORE
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>>288941438
Everything else aside, this is a good page.
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>>288942917
It let's you tank a x52 power punch multiple times, so yeah.
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>>288941238
>>288941244
>>288941254
THE FLOWCHART EVOLVED!!!
>use air rending
>did it work?
>yes
>use it again
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>>288941438
He killed the protagonist!
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>>288941244
>Kazzy flabbergasted Ryuki didn't use the same flowchart for the 876th time
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>>288941452
I HATE THE NIKO STYLE
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>>288941627
>You generated hands far too soon Koga!
>You don't have my Niko database of hands to make them realistic!
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>>288941678
>dying to Robo-Ky stealing your move
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>>288942383
I am a new reader. I planned to drop the series after Asura but its so fun reading along with you guys I stuck with it
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>>288941658
Even though Omega is a turd I still like this page
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If he just spammed earth crouching dragon he would have won btw.
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>>288942860
I'm starting to think the "trauma induced violence fetish" thing is real.
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>>288942455
That would've been much better desu
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Alisa went from regular woman to thousand dollar per session domme.
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>>288942411
To be fair, wasnt there a chapter extra where it shows that Ryuki's Rakshasha's Palm spins way less than Setsuna's?
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>>288943569
Somehow more character development during the timeskip than 90% of the characters.
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>>288942240
>Okay stop.
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>>288941627
>B-but how do I jack off now?
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>>288941348
>BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD
Alisa... calm down...
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>>288941348
>I remember you, you fuck
>You jammed your finger and showered yourself in the blood of that Mongolian
>That was so fucking hot
>Do that again or I'm disqualifying you!
Woah, where did that come from?
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>>288943614
Whats that one doujin about that guy with two broken hands who has to ask his friend to jack him off?
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>>288942639
Those two haven't climbed any walls, the only true way is to parry each page as you read.
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>>288941678
I completely forgot about this, this is good. Sandro can do good when he tries.
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>>288943670
She's gonna cum to the memories of this fight at least three times before she even leaves the building.
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>>288941678
Wait thats a fucking DP. Why was Ryuki using it on neutral
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>>288941329
I'm gonna disagree with all my other halves, but Koga sounds like an absolute faggot here. He got handed an absurd power-up directly from the author, and then acts mighty because Ryuki couldn't follow that rate of growth.
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Volume 19 extra
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>>288943529
Alisa can only get off to men beating each other to death now...
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>>288943801
That's more of a meta thing but it's undeniable that Ryuki's been largely doing the same moveset that he's had ages ago. Then again, Koga had absolute top tiers training him so this is more of a nepobaby mocking a hobo. Which tracks for Koga.
The lesson here is get more friends I guess.
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>>288943789
Ryuki is a flow chart neutral spammer scrub that needs to get that ass BANNED
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>>288941372
>a normal pivot is Koei Style now
This fucking manga
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>>288943813
It's hilarious how flexing your muscles a lot or flexing them a bit less is this crazy good technique that for some reason isn't used by every single fighter in the world.
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>>288943813
What a useless distinction, this just means if you power down indestructible, you get armorclad and vice versa.
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>>288943837
It only works if you say the magic words and get the "timing" right.
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>>288943859
Except no, because you can just have it turned on for long periods of time, you just get a bit less flexibility. The Kengan setting is just magical.
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>>288941729
Why is he mad?
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>>288941678
This would have been such a satisfying payoff if he fucking built up to it proper instead of skipping all development post ch. 50
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>>288943867
Yeah, "timing" may as well be somatic components in spellcasting.
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>>288943879
Pet project he's been throwing subordinates at is still a jobber.
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Hassad soon.
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>>288943789
Because you never expect the wake up DP in a top 8 tournament setting
It's like the throw loops
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>>288943813
Sandro is like Gege but dumber, a shit ton of headcanons in his head
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>>288942174
its funny how watching himself lose got him so mad he decided to kill a 100 year old out of pure spite
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>>288943904
I once throw someone from wakeup and got called a clown. I dont disagree but it worked.
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>>288943789
>>288943904
What's a DP?
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>>288941719
>>288941729
This was the perfect moment for Shen to just go full murder around him and remind us that he's actually an active threat but instead he goes back to wholesome chungus and you keep wondering what this manga wants to achieve at the end of the day
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Kengan is just Baki 2.0 but the people in-setting don't realize it and thus only Shen is blatantly using imagination magic. Other fighters are only able to use parts of the magic system. Any anon put into Kengan would become the strongest quickly because they would know that it's not about martial arts, it's about spellcasting and bullshido.
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>>288943848
In the hands of a good writer (not Sandro), I can see some cool potential.
>Koga vs Ryuki rematch where they whittle each other down
>Ryuki's weaker Armorclad causes him to tire out faster between exchanging blows, as his Armorclad isn't hard enough
>Koga tries to ECD finish again as a mirror callback to this fight
>Ryuki tanks it with Indestructible's increased defense and delivers a counterattack, showing that he can learn from his previous mistakes
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The other "me's" are having a Gu Ritual in the other thread. May they make good "nutrients" for each other.
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>>288943848
No you don't understand, Kengan is an RPG setting and Armorclad and Indestructible are different skills, you can't just flex your muscles more or less to switch from one or another.
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>>288943941
Is this how Jurota is "scaling" the "wall"?
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>>288943935
Universal expression for the Shoryuken a fighter might have
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>>288943973
Jurota is unironically abusing the physics engine, so yes.
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>>288943973
Yeah Jurota is blatantly minmaxing and gaming the system.
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>>288943935
Dead Pool
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>>288942629
based
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>>288943789
You wouldn't get it.
https://youtu.be/LfEVcZ3anG0
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Why did all these fights with Koga and Ryuki in this tournament not happen 100+ chapters ago?
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>>288943950
this sounds like World Trigger where the whole power system is mostly built on power/flexibility tradeoffs
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>>288944069
¬‿¬
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>>288943837
In Asura it was still bullshit but you could rationalise it as something you had to train a bunch with to get your muscles and tendons able to flex enough or in the right way, plus there's "getting the timing right" of course. It's bullshit but it's believable bullshit. The entire style just shouldn't have made the jump to Omega, leave it as Ohma's thing that died with him.
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>>288944089
>In Asura it was still bullshit but you could rationalise it. It's bullshit but it's believable bullshit.
No, sorry it was cancer back then and it's cancer now.
>The entire style just shouldn't have made the jump to Omega, leave it as Ohma's thing that died with him.
Because Nikoshit was one of the worst parts of Ashura. It should've never been written.
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>>288942922
How did you know how women react when I walk by?
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>>288941329
Ryuki is stunned that using two choreographed techniques is not enough to beat someone whose known him for years.
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>>288942629
based
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>>288944167
Well you're "me" after all, right?
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>>288943801
>>288943819
Ryuki's whole issue is that he's basically never trained since he left the Inside. He's still the same as he was years ago because he doesn't have an interest in improving. All he cares about is being strong enough to murder random Worm fodder.
The most he's gotten was a short lesson in using a few Koei techniques.
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>>288944217
>Ryuki's whole issue is that he's never trained
Sure, but on the other hand Koga's an absolute shitter who SOMEHOW became ten times stronger after what would be a career-ending shanking in a better manga. And he got that power-up exclusively through in-fight flashbacks, making him look like the Kengan equivalent of Israel. So yeah, the schizoid murderhobo somehow feels like an underdog compared to this knockoff-Ohma.
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>>288941438
>local schizo is now too schizo for even himself
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>>288944217
I mean, you can't say that. He learned Kiryu's shit that is supposed to take like 6 years to learn in 2 years. He just doesn't have Koga's reality warping aura that allows him to gather all of the teachers and learn all of their techniques. He's just a normal guy who has 1 teacher.
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>>288944296
He could train with Koga and get the same teachers
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>>288944318
Theoretically, I suppose, anyone could do it. But the way the story is written and set up, only Koga does it and is able to do it.
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>>288944296
He avoids everything except for Koga (who he's growing apart from) and a two schizophrenic psychopaths.
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>>288944355
Oh, I don't disagree that he's retarded, but the guy saying he doesn't train was just wrong. You could say he's training wrong, but then again, when compared to Koga not a single person in the Kenganverse is training correctly.
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>>288941276
LETS GO KOGIGGERS
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>>288941329
TRVKE
KOGA'S TRVKLEAR MELTDOWM ATTACK
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>>288941614
necessary kazzy basedface reaction panel
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>>288941773
>>288942108
>>288942171
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>>288941678
YEEEEEAAAAHHH fuck yeah koga
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>>288944121
Calm down, Waka
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>>288941635
Ryuki does have some cool panels.
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>>288941360
They should have really given kazzy a new secretary so they can do all the naive everyman reactions.
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>>288941614
>>288941627
I like this little moment with Koga screwing himself over and Ohma being agitated over it.
Koga becoming a Nikofag sucks but I also think Ohma becoming a mentor was a good development for him.
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>>288941678
A move that only works once really needs to get the timing right
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>>288941678
Ryuki really should just kill himself after this.
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>>288941635
That top panel is really nice tbdesu
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>>288941678
This was the semis right? So Rihito gets the bersekerb owl?
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>>288944563
That's what the W*rms do...
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>>288943879
Ryuki is a stunted flower that is too insane to even function properly.
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>>288944578
I meant for >>288944558
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>>288941888
Yuigahama is a crappy copier. He can't even do mixups and telegraphs his stance.
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>>288942629
Your life is WORTHLESS... You serve ZERO PURPOSE... You should kill yourself NOW
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>>288943892
Ohma eating all the scene
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>>288941428
after 150 chapters of stoic Ohma it's actually weird to see him shocked
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>>288944069
Every major conflict in Berserker Bowl existed before KvP, Sandro just didn't think about it I guess so their like reversed. Only thing you'd need to show is the actual progression Koga had to this point and boom you've got it made.
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>>288941567
I HATE THE NIKO STYLE
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>>288941888
Sandro pretty much said this when he had Yumi apparently still living rent free in Metsudo's brain
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I still don't get what Motobe meant by saying he'd protect me.
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>>288943814
Well, wouldn't you get off to women beating each other?
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>>288941348
ESLki...
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>>288944824
It really was be like that
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>>288944082
Pattern recognition is a curse set upon the human mind
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>>288941219
>Is he using his one (1) move?!
Kazzy...
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>>288944977
:-P
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>>288941888
>>288944779
Funnily enough, can't Agito said to have been doing exactly that in a sense with his Formless in Asura? His switch to Martial Arts was a way to improve his reaction time from having access to so many techniques.
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>>288941678
I think this is the best moment in omega so far
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>>288944996
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>288941267
Good ol reliable.
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I joined the storytime when "the real Carlos Medel" showed up and I think it's finally time I go back and read from the beginning.
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>>288944082
>>288944996
lmao
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>>288942629
Guilty Gearbros how the FUCK do we respond to this???
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>>288945102
B-O
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>>288944824
I think it's supposed to be "before" being cut off
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>>288941729
Why does he hate the gaoh flowchart so much?
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>>288943879
Ryuki is literally him and hes a gigantic weakling.
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Do you guys think Lolong found it weird when his premonition suddenly switched to Spanish for a bit?
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>>288941678
>BTFO by your favorite move
Humiliation ritual.
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>>288941678
This is a good moment.
Wish the buildup was better, but it's good.
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>>288941719
Samdro, you need an entire chapter for strong guys walking, otherwise it doesnt work
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>>288941650
FUCK
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>>288941729
Never elaborated on btw. No idea what specifically set him off. Ryuki being weak? Ryuki being mentally ill? Ryuki trying to hurt a friend because Shen really values friendship? Never specified what the problem is
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>>288944450
koga plays trimp?
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>>288941729
The "charcoal"...
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>>288941296
>>288941303
GAY
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>>288945117
No Strive subhuman would come to Keng/a/n
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>>288945404
I'm sure "we" are all TFH players here.
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>>288945444
"we" are actually all GBFRV players
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>>288941678
KINOOOOOOO
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>>288943259
Clearly the Koga player used a move that had superarmor.
Koga clearly needed a buff, but I don't know if giving superarmor to a bunch of his moves randomly was the correct decision though.
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>>288941686
gay
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>>288945154
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>>288942439
Fuck me I didn't realize daro started this shit that early
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>>288945305
It is obviously that Ryuki was trained poorly given that this leads into the Inside Arc where Gaoh Mukaku explicitly says, "lol, lmao, I trained Ryuki wrong as a joke".
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>>288945476
Holy BASED grubber.
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>>288945538
I'm pretty sure the Ryuki player just dropped the combo and didn't follow up with anything. Maybe he was expecting to trigger a dizzy with that last hit.
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>>288942439
honestly the Alisa one is the stupidest
was it really fucking necessary?
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>>288945627
GBVS is dogshit and ArcSys hasn't put out a truly great game since BBCF.
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>>288945586
What's even funnier is that he's not just his son. He's his clone with his personality implanted onto him, meaning he named the person he was intending to be the direct continuation of himself after his death that.
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>>288945662
>BBCF
superb taste anon, did you see they announced a new character DLC?
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>>288945662
ArcSys only makes the models retard.
Blue slop is all Cygames.

Have fun with nu-arcsys ruining your favorite game soon btw ;)
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>>288945476
"I" saw another "me" hosting BBCF lobbies yesterday
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>>288945722
would that "me" be >>288945662?
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>>288942411
>>288942917
>>288943572
I vaguely remember there was a page in Ashura where Kiryuu used his technique on Ohma and Ohma used indestructible to weaken it and there was some babble about how even if it can't negate it, it can at least cut the damage by half. So there was already an Indestructible can defend against Rakshasha's Palm precedent.
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>>288945476
"I" am the only "clone" this thread needs.
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>>288945722
>>288945722
>The BBC lobbies
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>>288943404
Someone update
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>>288945662
There's no such thing as a good traditional fighting game.
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>>288945675
What the fuck? I thought you were trolling but they actually did.
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>>288941244
Goddamn, I cackled at Kazzy's reaction. Stupid fucking garbage.
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>>288945620
Ryuki isn't really trained wrong though, the Gaoh style works just not in the ring.
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>>288941557
Kazzy is no longer a character. He exists purely for Sandro to fill up empty page spaces with slackjawed reactions.
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>>288941296
Gay.
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>>288941931
>arbitrary
He just wants to write whatever the fuck he feels like while also still pretending there's an iron logic and consistency in all of it.
In other words, he wants to have his cake and eat it too.
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>>288945989
My "interpretation" is that Mukaku grew to care about Ryuki as family but also knew just killing him would end Shen's memorial lineage, so he compromised by training Ryuki in really lethal ways that make him too crazy for Shen to huisheng
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>>288941400
How the fuck do they even know if it's even a different technique?
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Wait, so does Lihito win the Berserker Bowl for free now that Koga's hands are so fucked up?
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>>288944374
>when compared to Koga not a single person in the Kenganverse is training correctly
Correct. Everyone should learn the Niko style.
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>>288941678
People being satisfied by this baffle me.
Ryuki being stagnant as a one-dimensional character and a one-dimensional fighter is entirely a shortcoming of Sandro as a writer.
Sandro could have easily written Ryuki so that he developed as a fighter who didn't just rely on ECD all the fucking time.
Sandro also just couldn't figure out what the fuck to do with Ryuki as a character. Ohma's return was just the first nail in the coffin that killed Ryuki's dynamic of being a hybrid protag with Koga.
Sandro was just so out of ideas that he had Koga spend like half the KVP tournament in some hallway moping.
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>>288941627
>Ryuki's Armorclad is equivalent to the Niko Style's Indestructible
NO FUCKING SHIT YOU NIGGER, YOU'RE PISSING ME OFF SANDRO YOU FAGGOT
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>>288946087
Koga may still use
>Niko Style, Flame and Adamantine kata: Consecutive Kicks
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>>288941678
OH MY FUCKING GOD, HE USED KURE FAMILY'S COPY!??!?!?!?!
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>>288946091
As other anons pointed out, this is nepobaby Koga bullying Ryuki for his stagnancy when neither he nor Kazuo have been caring about or even aware of what Ryuki has been up to for all those years.
We have King Crimsoned over too much of their journeys for this to really have the emotional impact it should warrant.
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>>288946089
With how he picked up boxing Gaolang should be the first person to ask Ohma to teach him Niko style
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>>288945989
He was intentionally handicapped by being taught a mediocre martial art with the additional limiter put on his psyche that he can't show too much of it off in a fight.
Mukaku could have taught him the objectively strong Niko style if he actually cared about Ryuki being strong. But Mukaku didn't want Ryuki to be strong, he wanted Ryuki to be pliable and survive long enough for Shen to notice.
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>>288942383
What the fuck, there are still a lot of new "me"s.
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>>288941696
BIG SPOILER AHEAD
Reminder that Koga was unable to damage or budge Mukaku
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>>288946091
The point is entirely that Ryuki was stagnant as a fighter.
That is why he lost. He stayed still pubstomping wimpy Worms with a pair of degenerate psychos that didn't care about him while Koga trained with everyone that would give him the time of day.
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>>288942954
>Lmaoh Style
Kek
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>>288942629
kek
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>>288946091
The moment is cool on paper, and it's a great way to conclude the rivalry since Koga got pointers from Ryuki in the beginning, always looking up to Ryuki despite how much Ryuki angered him.
Everything leading up to it is bad and Ryuki's character is straight up in tatters right now because somehow Ryuki's entire support group failed to notice him getting groomed by Setsuna and Setsuna's great advice is to kill in a tournament that banned killing, but it really speaks to how strong the page is that people are willing to look past those problems.
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>>288941276
>POW! Right in the kisser.
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>>288945444
>>288945476
Surely one of "me" plays King of Fighters.
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>>288946148
>when neither he nor Kazuo have been caring about or even aware of what Ryuki has been up to for all those years.
It's genuinely pathetic that at the end of KVP when Ryuki finally showed up after being gone for half the tournament, the only person who noticed any kind of a change in Ryuki was Misasa.
For some reason, it didn't register any red flags in Koga's head when he heard Ryuki talking about how he "found God" in combination with how jovial and unbothered Ryuki was looking despite being completely broken and traumatized the last time Koga saw Ryuki.
2 in universe years pass.
No hints that Koga ever talked to Ryuki about how he managed to overcome his post-Naidan depression.
Despite living together, Koga never notices anything off about Ryuki this entire timeskip.
Despite living together, Koga never confronts Ryuki about his one-dimensional fighting as a way to help him grow as a friend. Not once does Koga ever call him out on this. A good writer would have had Koga pushing Ryuki to develop and learn new fighting techniques.
It's just trash writing.
What we're seeing here is no different than Sandro doing rule patching or characters addressing plot holes. It's a different form of damage control. "Oh, I just realized that I had written Ryuki to do boring ECDs all the time without thinking about the element of surprise. How shall I solve this conundrum? I'll have Koga bully Ryuki for behaving exactly the way I wrote him, and half the suckers reading this will love it! I'm such a genius!"
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>>288942180
Kek
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>>288942639
You gotta mix it up, go hard to soft, then soft to hard, and then hard to hard to soft, and so on.
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>>288946297
Did the Gaoh Style techniques Ryuki pulled out during his fight with Naidan ever matter again? It's obvious that Ryuki was being forced to hold back his moves. The problem was never that the Gaoh Style was overly restrictive to begin with.
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>>288945476
Sorry bro, I only play casual soku
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>>288946297
The difference for me is that Sandro used something bad to create something good for this fight while nowadays it's bad for bad.
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>>288946296
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>>288946087
I'll spoil it for you Koga asks Saw to teach him the Hammer of Bruma, which he uses in combination with Niko Style. Who wins?you'll see
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>>288941678
Getting completely blown out by your own signature move is utter humiliation. Even when Agito was mirroring other styles in Asura I don't think he ever finished someone with their own attack.
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>>288946359
>a game I can't buy on Steam
Unfathomable...
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>>288941360
Why do we need these Kazzy reactions again?
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>>288943044
Yeah, this was a terrible fight, especially the "lol didn't hurt" spam that just sucks all the tension out of the fight.
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>>288946403
Sandro is too lazy to figure out ways to write Kazzy as a relevant character, so he just has Kazzy serving as page filler.
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>>288944296
Ryuki's problem is that he already believes he's hotshit by the time we're introduced to him, he doesn't think he's going to lose in any of the fights he's in other than Naidan's. Whenever he came into trouble it was met with a "Huh, that's weird" before that.
We'll never know what Setsuna said to Ryuki to ever so successfully groom him but whatever he said gave Ryuki his spirit back and 2 years of camping and exp farming Worms in sewers gave him the confidence to start believing that he's totally "That guy" again. When he flat out loses to so "Who" guy he doesn't think "Maybe I suck at fighting with this style", no he just starts trying to kill people with a kill move to compensate and acts like he got stronger
Ryuki's a big fish in the local parks pond
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>>288946248
>but it really speaks to how strong the page is that people are willing to look past those problems.
I think it more accurately really speaks to how so many readers here continue to look at things superficially.
You said it yourself. "Everything leading up to it is bad". I agree. There is no good setup here. You can't have a satisfying payoff if you don't have a strong setup.

It's a shame, because the whole idea of using your own friend's overused signature technique as a way of slapping sense into that person could have been satisfying to see in the hands of an actual writer who cared about his characters enough to set up good foundations for a character to be lost and stagnant. But Sandro hasn't cared about Ryuki at all. He literally spent half the KVP tournament moping in a hallway.
Agito literally showed more care for Ryuki than Koga at the time. Agito asked where Ryuki was. Koga had no clue because he had devolved into being written as a waterboy cheerleader, much like how Kazzy has also been written to devolve into being a cowardly everyman reaction face page filler.
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what on earth happened to sandro between 49 and 50
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>>288946358
The problem for Ryuki is that Koga imprinted on him a reticence to kill that crops up at the most inopportune times.
It happened against Akoya and nearly killed him, as an example.
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>>288946709
We'll never know. Everyone talks about Ohma's return as being dogshit and I agree it is, but what's baffling to me the most is how Sandro very abruptly turns against Koga. That hospital chapter with the NTR vibes continues to kill my brain cells every time I think about it.
How did you spend 40+ chapters developing him as a character only to humiliate him like this?
Then the humiliation continued with that "why are you here?" moment from Kazzy when Koga asks if he could sit with the other Kengan fighters and when Kazzy simply refers to Koga as an employee, all while the other Kengan fighters are going "who is this dude?". Cold blooded and degrading as fuck.
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>>288946709
I think current Sandro must be a Worm.
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>>288946866
>Current Sandro is actually just a clone made by Hayami that he decided to make deranged in hopes to produce an even better writer
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>>288946553
He looks like he's wearing a vault suit
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>>288946912
Good god, how the fuck did Sandro think this was a good idea?
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>>288941678
Newfag here. I had a feeling this was coming but this is a super sick moment.
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>>288942383
I'm still here. I understand why the barrage of chapters at the end of the Purg tourney made so many people quit, but Berserker Bowl has been an alright chaser so far.
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>>288941504
>ironbreaker is koga's signature move now
Grim.
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>>288946709
Chapter 50+ Omega is the "real" story Sandro wanted to write, 1-49 is the bait and hook Sandro had to put up with, only for some unfathomable reason 1-49 is the decent material and 50+ is garbage, the former feeling like it was planned out more than the latter. The editor must have seen Ohma's return and some of Sandro's future plans and mentally checked out, knowing it was over.
I think Sandro's head is full of hype moments and all his focus is about getting them to paper without worrying about how he gets there. The concept of Koga using ECD might have existed the second he came up with Koga and Ryuki, Sandro never really worried himself with planning it out very much, all he knew was that at some point he would have to make Ryuki bad and Koga the hero who endorses using techniques from other people.
This >>288947029 is Sandro allowing multiple hype moments to contradict each other. "It would be cool if there was a sane Meguro!" "It would be cool if Hayami made Meguro crazy!""It would be cool if Hayami made the sane Meguro crazy!" "It would be cool if the sane crazy Meguro killed Hayami because Hayami misunderstood him!"
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>>288941267
>smirks and reassures himself the ONE time the fucking move hits out of the last 500 attempts
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>>288941658
Nitpick I guess, but Leonardo being the final guy here/focus feels unearned with how lame and irrelevant the supernovas all are, even if Koga beat him recently.
Should have been Kokuro especially considering he's fought them both, but I realize that ship has sailed.
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>>288947191
Yeah that was one of the worst stretches of the manga so far.
IMHO, without spoiling anything, the next arc is ok. There will be some slight buildup but it's not too bad.
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>>288943683
>Whats that one doujin about that guy with two broken hands who has to ask his friend to jack him off?
https://e-hentai.org/g/944439/0e6401deec/
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>>288946296
Half of this thread is a flavor of spic so its definitely way more than just one of "me"
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>>288941678
>Using your rivals moves
cliché so insanely kino not even sandrologic can make me groan at it
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>>288943879
Image of a smug frenchman looking at the reader
There is no actual canon stated explanation, anybody offering one is based on their guesses to make Sandro's stream of consciousness writing make sense. He never confronts Mukaku about training Ryuki wrong or anything.
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>>288947411
>The editor must have seen Ohma's return and some of Sandro's future plans and mentally checked out, knowing it was over.
I don't think this is the case. Anons have spent years doing "what if" scenarios for Omega that attempt to correct some of it and have done an admirable job making some fun takes on the story. An editor COULD have saved a post-50 Ohma return Omega. I don't think Omega was an unsalvageable story which makes it all the most frustrating. The editor ether does not exist or he's just as bad as Sandro is.
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>>288947652
>He never confronts Mukaku about training Ryuki wrong or anything.
Yet there are people above you who rolled with this explanation.
It amazes me just how much of the heavy lifting retards here are willing to do for Sandro no matter how many times he screws the story up.
It doesn't matter. Some people will continue to hope that there's actual foresight in this writing, instead of the infinitely simpler and more obvious Occam's Razor explanation of Sandro needing yet another cheap cliffhanger mystery moment to get people talking for the next week to maintain engagement metrics while he figures out the next chapter.
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>>288945305
He got bitched by fucking Koga, that's Xia Ji levels of incompetence. Even L*ohan wouldn't do this badly.
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>>288941678
It's legitimately a good moment and would hit really hard if Koga and Ryuki were still likeable.
90% of the problems with this arc are inherited from the previous arcs (lobotomized Kazzy, hypocritical nepo baby Koga, excessive peanut gallery reactions, fuck the Niko style, Sandro sucking in general). The Berserker bowl does a lot of things right, it just cpuldn't save or carry the rest of Omega.
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>>288943935
It's when a chick has two guys in her ass and pussy at the same time
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>>288947651
DMC3 is probably where mankind storytelling peaked
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>>288947698
Honestly just have Ohma and Raian go to china to investigate the worm
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>>288945793
Lol haven't seen this one before
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>>288943569
elaborate..
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>>288946953
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>>288941172
>Locked room mystery
We're finally gonna slay Sandro?
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>>288948414
>melee weapons
Truth is, the game was rigged from the start
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>>288943825
Somehow he spent space to tell us the ages of some other losers, but omitted that for Leo himself.
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>>288946091
Even the worst handjob is redeemed somewhat the moment you cum.
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>>288946709
Sales must have been dropping and they brought back Ohma to try and correct course
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>>288946091
I think it's a good climax that fits the surrounding buildup well, with Ryuki's accusations being turned on him to demonstrate how Koga's mindset is a strength
But a good climax doesn't make the rest of the fight automatically good, and the circumstances that even allowed the fight to happen are extremely shaky
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>>288946297
>I'll have Koga bully Ryuki for behaving exactly the way I wrote him
Ryuki's reliance on ECD and its waning efficiency was being overtly mentioned the first 50 chapters, it wasn't some accidental character flaw that Sandro realized he had to patch posthaste
The circumstances around Ryuki's flaws might be poorly written, but the flaw itself was deliberate and it paying off in this tournament made sense
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>>288941678
this is the last time i unironically enjoyed this manga
the "tragedy" is about to unfold...
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>>288941678
Kino
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>>288942411
This was already established in Kiryu and Ohma's last fight in Ashura do you people even read this manga
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>>288949598
You don't get it, I have to make up reasons to complain about a manga that is already so graciously giving me legitimate reasons to complain about it every chapter!
"Scale the wall" or something I don't fucking know, fucking greenie
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>>288949621
I think the only thing that annoys me about this fight is that Koga doesn't use his karate basically at all (they don't even mention he should be better at inside work because of it when they explicitly compare the brawling section to it). Niko style just dominates his moveset here.

Everything else is brilliant, so brilliant it almost feels like it comes from a better manga that didn't sideline these guys post chapter 50. Koga trying to keep up with Ryuki's stronger moveset that Ryuki isn't using as intelligently is a really fun dynamic, there's plenty of shifts in momentum and it might have the most satisfying ending in any Kengan fight period.

So yeah, the manga has sucked for a while and is going to get even worse from here on in but even in a perfect world this fight wouldn't change much.
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>>288946091
>Sandro could have easily written Ryuki so that he developed as a fighter who didn't just rely on ECD all the fucking time.

But he didn't, he intentionally wrote Ryuki as someone who relied on using strong moves poorly and as gimmick attacks. Nothing about Ryuki's stagnation is unintentional Koga actively calls him out on it.

That's the whole point of the fight, it wasn't a mistake or anything.

Now there's a legitimate case to be made that Ryuki's escapades with Kiryu and Akoya should have been justified better since it feels like Koga just abandoned him, if it was made clear that Koga was looking for him or whatever it would make more sense, and it's unclear why Ryuki even joined this tournament. But the fight itself has very strong dynamics.
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>>288941678
GOD DAMNIT SANDRO WHY CAN'T YOU WRITE THIS WELL CONSISTENTLY?
WHY IS IT ALWAYS OSCILLATING BETWEEN KINO AND THE WORST SLOP POSSIBLE?
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>>288950069
Well "I" got "good" "news" for "you"
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>>288950069
>this
>kino
Why the fuck would the editor even need to lift a single finger if the readership's a bunch of blind retards?
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>>288949755
>it's unclear why Ryuki even joined this tournament. But the fight itself has very strong dynamics
There was this little subplot with Ryuki not seeing Koga as an equal or someone that could reach his level that plays into Ryuki's stagnation and Koga's growth
Ryuki doesn't see Koga as this guy who's a decent fighter, more like this hapless asshat worth protecting and when he see's Koga's progress he either gets confused, like seeing him beat Xia Ji when Ji gave Ryuki and Akoya trouble or completely brushing it off as nothing too serious. He does consider training more after helping Koga with his training at Seki's gym but that was more because Koga managed to surpass his expectations and Ryuki didn't like that I guess
It's this side of Ryuki that doesn't want Koga to be stronger than him for one reason or another and I think Ryuki participates in the tournament either to see how Koga's progressed or to beat him up and confirm the status quo. It's this fuckin' weird bit of Ryuki's personality and mindset that views Koga as a perma-weakling who'll always be beneath him that gets dropped after this fight and nothing about it ever gets brought up again because Koga EARTH CROUCHING DRAGON'D Ryuki's personality right out of him
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>>288941678
Is this the most brutal mogging in the manga so far?
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>>288950162
So why did he get mad when Ohma says Koga's out of KvP if he considered Koga an eternal shitter?
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>>288950176
Cuz who the fuck is this Ohma guy and why is he calling the shots all of a sudden. Koga just can't be stronger than Ryuki, that's it.
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>>288941678
this fight feels like a much better version of ohma vs lolong
it has a lot of parallels, but the biggest upgrade is in the ending. both how it's executed thematically and the reflection on it by the character
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My issue with the Ryuki plot here is that it does have some well executed emotional beats in a vacuum, there's still so much in the greater context that's nonsensical or just unanswered(and will continue to be).
Ryuki managing to wind up in this situation in the first place makes no sense. It relies on EVERYONE around him simply abandoning him to his own devices. He was still living in Kazuo's house WITH Koga even, and nobody ever noticed him sneaking out at night to kill people? Coming back with unexplained injuries or bloodstains? Nobody noticed him act differently at all? It's handwaved off by Yamashita being down on himself for not noticing, and... yes, you fucking retard, it IS your fault, and Koga's too. Nobody ever asked him to even elaborate on what "finding God" meant?
Then on the other hand, it begs the question of... why? Why did Kiryu do this? He wants to be "God", so he wants to be someone else's object of worship and stuff? But it doesn't even seem like he tried to force that dynamic on Ryuki, they speak like equals, he didn't try to groom Ryuki into worshiping him, just become more of a killer(which also begs the question of how two years with Kiryu and Akoya are SO much more psychologically damaging than decades in the Inside, but whatever).
But beyond that, why did Kiryu specifically train him in this way, in a way that stagnated his actual fighting abilities? This can't have helped him in any way for the schizo justice squad's purposes either, there are strong Worms too after all.
>well he was uhhh, trying to sabotage him somehow!
Okay, why? Because that's an interesting idea, but it will never be considered by the narrative. Furthermore, it goes against Kiryu's own thoughts of making Ryuki stronger than him, and the one who will defeat "the old god", whatever the fuck you think that means. You might as well decide the meaning for yourself, because it's open to interpretation.
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>>288950344
Forgot to also mention the last issue with it: the way it leaves Ryuki in utter shambles as a character. His role was to be the "already strong" protagonist to contrast Koga, and now Koga has surpassed him. Obviously you would expect this to happen eventually, and it's not bad in itself, but... you would think that would happen much later in the story. Not a chapter at least 200+ away from the ending(conservatively, because even now, nobody can guess how long this shit will go for, including Sandro most likely).
Ryuki was already rapidly losing relevance with the return of Ohma, and now he isn't even a real goal/rival for Koga anymore. He'll just be left even further in the dust as we go if nothing is done about it. Sure, there's ways you can develop him both as a character and a fighter, for the latter he could have an arc about revamping the Gaoh Style like Rei did with his martial art, and tapping into the talent he's been letting go to waste, but will Sandro do anything with him, or just leave him in this state indefinitely? The answer is lol, lmao.
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>>288941650
Let’s go Justin!
>>288941678
OOOOHHHHHHHH
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>>288950399
>revamping the Gaoh Style like Rei did with his martial art, and tapping into the talent he's been letting go to waste
Crazy that Sandro thought giving Ryuki Mukaku's hand-me-down Long Clan techniques and then not letting Ryuki look good using them until some Worm jobber showed up was a good use of character
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>>288942383
Still here. This fight was good, mostly.
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>>288942629
True… true
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>>288943789
Ryuki is literally a flowchart Ken.
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>>288950502
I don't even hate the idea of Ryuki inheriting Mukaku's clan style as a way of sort of "legitimizing" him as his heir, but then the issue becomes that we're far past Sandro being able to invent actual techniques. So instead of Ryuki getting a cool new style that feels comparable to the Niko Style or Kure stuff, instead he just gets shit like discount Lionsbite. Oh, and the "touch of death" that he used on Raian, only for it to do literally nothing. Zero elaboration on what it was meant to do even, it just does nothing and that's all we get.
And then there's the OTHER issue with the Long Clan stuff being Ryuki's long awaited powerup: THAT FUCKING KOGA GETS IT TOO, which only continues the issue of Ryuki now being overshadowed by him, and Koga seeming to know how to use Ryuki's own moves better than him.
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>>288946709
Metrics are the only possible explanation.
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Bet what would Shen call his "Removal" when he inevitably uses it
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>>288950344
He is living with his Kiryu wife
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>>288950926
Lmfao
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>>288950926
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>>288950926
1000/10
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>>288950926
bit weird mix of hexes and buffs
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>>288951162
It is to "spoof" the "system". If you hex or buff too much of either one, "it" will catch "on" to your "plan" and be "punished". By balancing them "just right" you get to "bypass" all of "that" and still get your "effects".
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>>288950502
Wow. It's almost like the Long Clan and Gaoh Mukuku originally being from it and all that was just something Sandro made up on the spot, and not something he planned years in advance.
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>>288950344
>in a vacuum
The whole sequence of events from Ryuki being traumatised by Naidan and picked up by Kiryu to this SPECIFIC moment of Koga beating Ryuki by just being a better fighter feels like something Sandro thought up in advance, then gave up on because he got self-indulgent about the Worm nonsense, and then belatedly tried to write the ending with zero payoff. So Koga just offscreen does Yumi's shtick but better, and you're seriously supposed to believe Kiryu is just such a genuinely shitty teacher he spent 2 years teaching Ryuki 2 moves and thought that was good enough to use him to become God or get revenge on Tigger or whatever.

There is a throughline you can kinda infer, in terms of the theme being Kiryu (supposedly) being talented but stagnant and Koga training with everyone to get stronger all the time. But because the setup is just skipped as if Sandro used King Crimson on his own manga, it comes off as completely unearned and Koga and Ryuki just end up spouting complete nonsense at each other as their thesis about why they're right and their opponent is wrong.

The fact that Kiryu just fucking LEAVES the plot after this embarrassment of a loss while apologising to the empty night as if it were Ryuki makes the whole thing's conclusion even more baffling
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>>288945476
This game was fun when my friends spent a while getting into it. Unfortunately my dogshit third world tier internet makes online play untenable.
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>>288945586
Has anyone got the edit that ended with Lolong saying "My predictions are starting to diverge, but I've seen enough" and waking up from the premonition? I'm suprised I haven't seen it posted by now.
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>>288952564
>"My predictions are starting to diverge, but I've seen enough" and waking up from the premonition
I don't know but in a vacuum that line sounds fire.
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>>288952564
I really like the idea that Lolong just has insane precognition and he just threw the match because the timeline where he wins is way worse than what we have.
It's also why he's always sitting deep in thought, viewing precognitions..
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>>288952722
Silly anon, fire can't burn in a vacuum.
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>>288953119
You just need to get the timing right
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>>288951162
Fine adjustment of power level to hit the 'sweet spot' where he can comfortably react to any buff and a 'surprise' hex can't make him 'too strong' to win.
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>>288953119
But are there sounds in a vacuum?
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>>288947652
>He never confronts Mukaku about training Ryuki wrong or anything.
Mukaku isn't confronted, but that he trained Ryuki wrong on purpose is made clear given that he used Ryuki as a mere tool to bait Shen. And we know the Gaoh style is inherently flawed.
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>>288949598
A lot of people react to Sandrovich's obviously hacky writing by mentally shutting down totally.
Like yeah, Omega is a mess. But not everything that makes you unhappy (like the Niko style having a counter to the Koei style) is a sin that just appeared right now in the story.
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>>288953575
It's just that the story is so bad when it's bad it burns away any goodwill to engage with it.
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>>288950344
Kiryu basically relied on his innate prodigal talent and spamming 2 moves.
I doubt he had a lot of pointers to give Ryuki about not being one-dimensional.
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>>288949598
I didn't "read" Kengan
I sat my white ass down and I "listened"
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>>288953664
I "see"
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>>288943825
>Ricardo with H
What the fuck
Look, I've worked in the government for a bit, I've seen all sorts of weird names, I've seen a dude be named "Pacifico Pacato Cordeiro Manso" (roughly translates to Pacific Chill Meek Lamb), I've seen people absolutely MURDER names like Walt Disney (Valdisnei) and Mephibosheth (Mefibofete), but not once did I ever see a dude be named Ricardo but with an H
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>>288953575
>not everything that makes you unhappy is a sin that just appeared right now in the story
I think a lot of anons are perfectly aware that a lot of bullshit was inherited from Ashura.
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>>288950926
Nonono, it explicitly needs to be 100% Guihun instead of removal
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>>288953693
The name Cedric exists only because Walter Scott misspelled "Cerdic" in Ivanhoe
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>>288953725
Is Indestructible being able to counter RP a sin? RP is strong enough without being able to armour pierce the most common defensive technique in the series.

>>288953595
maybe but I wish people wouldn't pretend it's worse than it is especially when they're verifiably, provably wrong

>>288953608
Kiryu knows a bunch of Niko moves on top of the Koei style and can even combine them, yes he's got a bit of tunnel vision but RP is a legitimately very strong attack.
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>>288953693
in Portuguese, Rs that start the word are delivered with the H sound (hence Royce, Rickson and Renzo Gracie whose names are pronounced Hoyce, Hickson and Henzo). So Ricardo would be pronounced Hicardo, and for whatever reason the translation into english elected to use the phonetic rendering instead of how a Brazilian would actually write it down
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>>288954020
>Is Indestructible a sin?
Yes.
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>time to relax with a nice comfy ga-
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>>288947441
As the latest victim of Nikoshit Leonardo knows best that Koga can bullshit a victory here
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>>288954415
Oh hey I just bought this one too
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>>288954358
EVERYTHING I'VE EVER FLEXED
EVERYONE I'VE EVER HEXED
EVERY PLACE I HAVE "ARRIVED"
EVERY STRIKE I HAVE SURVIVED
IT'S A SIN
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>>288942629
The fucking groomed by a discord schizophrenic line is so good
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>>288954898
Scaling Cathay's walls...
THE worm himself...
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>>288943879
we'll never know because a few chapters later he's not even mad anymore
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>>288942954
>On the other hand, not everyone is as mysteriously well-liked as Koga, with teachers coming left and right out of the bushwork to teach him their techniques to add to his repertoire.

The only techniques Koga has added to his skillset post ch.50 are a few Niko style moves from Ohma and getting taught the idea of what foresight is from Agito -and the latter one is one you don't even really need a teacher for and doesn't have a style. Everything else Koga does is his Karate/MMA stuff he learned originally.
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>>288954415
Recettear is not quite what I'd call comfy though
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>>288955891
>Few
Koga doesn't really have anything pre-training aside from liver kicks and it's clear he's learned a fair bit of Nikoshit to the point he's even synthesising attacks himself. It's basically the majority of his kit now. Niko Jr.
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>>288955891
All of his training has obviously increased his power level by a lot though, regardless of if he actually has new monves.
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>>288943412
Kek
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>>288954415
This manga is a memetic hazard.
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>>288956147
He knows three niko moves and is bad enough at them that he broke his hands on the Flashing Steel. His karate moves don't get names, so it's more obvious when it's Niko.

>>288956563
Yeah but that's the result of having Kureishi/Seki/Joji as his teaching squad (and we even see a flashback of him training with Seki this arc), which were established way back in the day.
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>>288942383
i actually kept up with omega but a lot of these chapters were like a blur to me, they were memory-holed
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>>288956042
It is to me, might be jewish genes or something
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>>288958122
Jews don't have a monopoly on being tight arses
The Scots and the Swiss are well known for that too



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