Volume 58Naruto Vs.ItachiChapter 549: Itachi's Question!https://desuarchive.org/a/thread/274143504Previous thread:>>288955949
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>>288976382This is when the war arc finally stops being worthless filler fights, right? It's Nagato vs Itachi, Naruto and Bee, Kabuto, Kages, Madara, Obito, etc. now right?
>>288976446Why are you still calling him Madara
>>288976479>summons madara to bfo obito months ago>still calls him madara in his headKishi is an awful writersometimes I wonder if even if kept going back and forth on tobi being obito or madara right up until reveal
>>288976467>This is when the war arc finally stops being worthless filler fights, right? It's Nagato vs Itachi, Naruto and Bee, Kabuto, Kages, Madara, Obito, etc. now right?Yeah, it goes up a notch or two.
>>288976502>>288976509>Itachi swapping hands with KCM1 NarutoJiraiya could never. Jiraiyafags will always downplay this and seethe
>>288976537I'm pretty sure the Uchiha name is tarnished enough as is.
B&W
>>288976631Here it is >O MY RUBBER CROW
>>288976631>Naruto looks into Itachi's eye while warning Bee not toThis always annoyed me. Also, Itachi would have won here if he hadn't given Shisui's eye to Naruto
>>288976631As an Itachitard, I was super hyped when this came out. I had had the crazy theory that the crow would somehow help Itachi break free of control from the moment his Edo Tensei form was first shown, and now it might actually be happening. I never expected Shisui's eye, though.
>>288976714Naruto doesn't have control the same way Itachi does. He just switched from using art of the doppelganger to copying Jiraya's tactics without being original.
Done!
>>288976816>As an ItachitardYou're the lowest of the low.
>>288976816Uchihas have everything to counter the ninjutsu of the second lord.
>>288976816>ItachitardYou're the best of the best
>>288976485>strongest eyes in the game>he didn't notice samehada immediately
>>288976620Love how at the start of the chapter they complimented Naruto for being strongeronly to focus on a detailed exchange of blow between Itachi and Bwhile Naruto is wasting chakra against a Hydra-dog
>>288976608oh that's cool. i thought he got rid of those.
>>288976583Naruto isn't going all out. He's matching Itachi in order to talk to him.
>>288976408Oh, so the "cm" in KCM stands for chakra mode? Now I feel stupid for not getting it.
>>288976426Nagato, Jiraiya did jack shit for Naruto's control over kurama and you killed him way before Naruto got this form.Don't give that bum any credit.
>>288976461JOBBER STYLE.
>>288976502>He would turn his back on the village?Did you forget he willingly went with Orochimaru for power (due to your actions)?
>>288977497Itachi isn't going all out either. He's not even using MS
>>288976461This is an interesting page because it appears to show Samehada eating the chakra from a Katon and thereby canceling a large part of it, although Samehada really hated the taste of the hot chakra. On the other hand, Bee might have just split the fireball with pure force and Samehada is mad at getting burned.
>>288976524I don't think Itachi suffered that much from all that bloodshed he spilled.
>>288977843Itachi isn't really surprised. He's just confirming his worst fears.
>>288977497Yeah, I'm pretty sure that Kakashi could match Itachi's performance here.
>>288977868Doesn't make Itachi swapping hands with Naruto impressive.
>>288977915His expression makes him look surprised. Also if I'm not wrong the actual translation for >>288976502 is "Why isn't Sasuke going back to the village", not "He would turn his back on the village". I'm not 100% sure tough, but the translation in these scans has been really shit so far.
>>288976631Vore
>>288976842>>288976831>>288976639>>288976631Arigatou, OP!
>>288977915But his worst fear already happened.
>>288977212Fuck off samefag
>>288976408How much time has actually passed between the Pain arc and now?
>>288976509>casually evading both without tryingPowerscalers, this Itachi guy seems pretty good
>>288976608kek why did he bring back that silly fighting style
>>288978165Can't be more than a month.
>>288976660even itachi is impressed, sasuga naruto-kun!
>>288978261Yeah evading a casual slash from a dude who is barely accustomed to using a heavy sword is impressive
>>288976631
>>288978261Sharingan precog
>>288976842damn, actually a good chapter. thanks op.
>>288978590Sasukebros...Hinatasisters...Naruto prefers black men?
>>288978590Killer Bee is not a milkman, confirmed
>>288976408>For you it's been a while since we last met, hasn't it? But for me it's only been momentsthen why the fuck did you feel nostalgic last chapterr>>288956192
>>288978590This is the least cute SnJ Naruto pulled no wonder why B didn't like it.
>>288976631so I guess this confirms perfect jinchuriki are not immune to tsukuyomi? Although this could just be Naruto being stupid again. Killer Bee has more experience at dealing with Amaterasu than he does after all
>>288976426>He and I are students of the same mentor...>the same mentor who could not have anything to do with this improvement since... you know... I killed him and all.
I thought edo tensei revived the person at their best? why is Nagato still sickly and skin and bones here
>>288979127Hiruzen was revived old.
>>288978982It's not total confirmation but it definitely supports Bee not being able to handle Tsukuyomi with the Hachibi's help. We also saw that the Hachibi didn't break Itachi's genjutsu instantly earlier in the chapter; that delay would have been fatal with Tsukuyomi.
>>288976485>So Kisame is deadThat's it? your partner in crime is dead and that's your reaction?
>>288979127The revival is inconsistent. Kabuto probably has to use more chakra to bring them back at a younger, healthier age.
>>288979254Finding out someone is dead hits less hard when you're dead too.
Outside of Madara the edos are revived in the same state they died in. Kabuto specifically modified Madara to be in his prime with his original eyes
>>288976426look at naruto, he's so happy pain taught him hate by blowing up his whole village and almost killing hinata in front of him, also he killed his master and he is just so delighted and thankful for it. Nagato is the 2nd coolest guy.
>>288976485>So Kisame is deadWhy assuming the worst? Perhaps he stole it. Perhaps they imprisoned Kisame. Perhaps Kisame is infiltrating the enemy right now and pretended for Samehada to switch sides. And the worst part? He's right! Damn I hate this Itachi-wank.
>>288976551how nice of itachi to approves of naruto's and sasuke Gay relationship
>>288976620Damn this dog is even above KCM Naruto. So also above KCM2 and perhaps even his BSM. Heck, what would the 10-tails even do about it? Or even Madara?
>>288976537>The Uchiha clan was exterminated by order of the village elders>If the truth comes out, it's the Uchiha's name that's going to get tarnishedfI hate this narrative.I KNOW the Uchiha wanted to take over the village, but they were all exterminated before they could do anything.If anything, it should be the elders' and the Third Hokage's reputation who should be tarnished for taking this extreme measure
>>288977626What did you think it meant? Centimeters?
>>288976461Look at the absolute size of that monster of a fireball. Sasuke could never produce something so powerful and beautiful.
>>288979636Would it really? Everyone who finds out about what the Uchiha intended to do ends up thinking they deserved to be wiped out.
>>288977943Itachi got Naruto to look at his MS. Naruto would have been toast if Itachi hadn't given him Shisui's MS.
>>288976502>>288976524It's really frustrating to show Nagato's really interesting reaction to this only to never bring it up ever again. Especially since his view of war and hatred should have some massive implication on Itachi's true character.
>>288976502
>>288977404Well, at least Itachi put two and two together once he noticed itShikamaru would have needed three more pages just to that the Samehada belonged to Kisame
>>288976551>Nice move, Naruto!>Behind you.>Got it!Everything about these Edo Tensei fights is so fucking gay. Suddenly everyone is best buddies with each other because they have to band together to defeat the common enemy Madara The Coolest Guy!
>>288977890He didn't seem to give that much of a fuck all things considered. I mean he cried a bit when he killed his dad but otherwise he seemed to just get over it and no one really blamed him for murdering all those people
>>288976597hehe
Thank you daily ramen
>>288976537Am I the only one that feels annoyed at him not wanting Uchiha name to be tarnished when not only he was the one that killed them, the Uchiha as a clan is gone. And if its ever gonna somehow ome back it will be like a few generations from now where nobody is gonna give a fuck about this event.
>>288976479>>288976508What if I told you he doesn't call him by name in that scene?
>>288976502Wtf did Nagato even do in the Akatsuki for him to be this clueless?>>288976524Isn't out of character for Naruto to sing Itachi's praises here? Or does no one care about the Uchiha clan?>>288976537The name was tarnished when you slaughtered your own clan for Danzo you glowie. No character will call him out on this.
>>288979351What about Sasori, he has his full teenage body back when he's supposed to be like 50 and his "real" body was supposed to just be a meatloaf when he died.
>>288979636No, they were an evil clan cursed with hatred. They deserve to die, all of them, women, children, elderly, they were all in on the conspiracy you see.
>>288978982>>288979232It's because it's not an immunity, it's just an in-built support.Normally, you either cancel it before it takes hold, have the ability to break genjutsu on your own somehow (Shikamaru vs. Tayuya for example, probably highly dependent on the type of genjutsu and your ability to see through it) or you have someone else break if by pushing their chakra in you or whatever.The third one is basically what jinchuuriki does, and yeah, it's not instant.The issue with Tsukuyomi is that it's instant, not just in working, but doing everything it does, so that won't be good enough
>>288980614>Isn't out of character for Naruto to sing Itachi's praises here?yeah uh you better get used to that
Why dafuq is Itachi worried about Uchiha's clan legacy primarily? Wasn't the point of this character that he chose the village over his own clan?
>>288979669Honestly, I just never really thought about it.
>>288980775If Itachi were to tsukuyomi a shadow clone would the damage transfer to the main body?
>>288980898He did but he also doesn't want his family and clan to be remembered poorly. He wanted to take all of their sins onto himself.
>>288980959>If Itachi were to tsukuyomi a shadow clone would the damage transfer to the main body?Logically it should, since the memories and mental fatigue transfer. People point out that Itachi's genjutsu on Kakashi that turned him flat wasn't effective, but that was just a short term psychological torture on a clone that knew it wasn't real and so wouldn't be horrified. Also Itachi wasn't even trying to win seriously.
>>288976842Ty for dump
>>288980537It's a stretch but maybe he's still thinking in Sasuke terms? like he still thinks he can be saved and redeemed in the village's eye or something
>>288976502MOSHIMOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>288976426>itachi sipping on sake
This chapter worth reading?
>>288981259As a huge Tenten fag I'd give it 4/10
>>288981308Well, she's called Tenten, not Fourten, so I wont read.
>>288981552That's not actually genjutsu. There is literally a real crow crawling out of Naruto's throat.
>>288977980you're right.
>>288976551>I was right to believe you could finish this. You proved that you could handle Sasuke when you deep-throated that crow. You'll need that skill for his Uchiha girth.
Reminder alive Itachi got hit by Sasuke's first shuriken.
>>288981595It's been sasuke, itachi, and zetsu for multiple volumes now
it's pretty ironic that temari thought sasuke was attractive because she carries a big fan and uchiha sounds similar to uchiwa, which means fan, and a fan is the uchiha clan symbol.but it's probably just because nearly every girl thought sasuke was attractive with no deeper meaning behind it.
>>288981552Kek I remember how shit the Sasuke vs Itachi "fight" was.
Hiashi won.
>>288981552Who is the most honest Sharingan user in the series?
>>288981949Out of the relevant ones?Sasuke, Sarada if you want to go beyond chp 700.Including the others?That one guy on Tobirama's team.
>>288981756it was fucking awesome and you're a tranny
>>288981949Danzo
>>288982007>Orochimaru out of nowhere
>>288976485I hate it when manga/anime characters immediately jump to the right conclusion from half-assed information like this.What if Kisame was imprisoned? What if he was at large and Bee just stole the sword? What if Kisame were hiding inside samehada right now?Not even an issue specific to Naruto, I think a lot of series do this.
>>288979254At least he noticed
>>288976583Itachi ran while he was in a 2v1 against Jiraiya
>>288982320Double agent shit
>>288977890It is funny looking back that itachi slaughtered the entire clan to "save" konoha when the only characters he seemed to care about at the time were other uchiha. Like he didn't have any friends from outside the clan whom he wanted to protect from the coup he just killed everyone because of some vague feeling of patriotism to a bunch of people he couldn't give two shits about.
>>288982528...yeah that's what patriotism isdoes a soldier who dies for what he believes is the benefit of the united states of america do it because he personally knows 300 million americans
>>288982501And Kisame played along?
>>288982595>does a soldier who dies for what he believes is the benefit of the united states of america do it because he personally knows 300 million americansI'd say he would at least have to have some connections to the people of the nation that made him want to defend it.
>>288982619Yes, he is Itachi's lover after all.
>>288982619Kisame plays along, that's his thing
>>288982656any good rule34 of this?
>>288982501Cope, downplay and seethe
>>288976608>>288978333Yeah, more than 2 swords is always fucking retarded
>>288982619Kisame would definitely lose to Jiraiya so I understand him running away.
>>288976608>the virgin do retarded pose to hold 8 blades>the stacy turn your nails into 20 blades
>>288976631You wonder if Gerotora chilled with the crow inside Naruto's stomach for all that time.
>>288982619Kisame would lose to both Itachi and Jiraiya (supposedly), what exactly is he going to do if Itachi says something he doesn't agree with? Fight back? Lol.
>>288982595...no, but he would do it for his family and friends from his nation. Itachi didn't have any of that to make it worth it to sacrifice his whole clan.
>>288983216Itachi was a good person (a rare thing in the Narutoverse) who cared about the lives of the many over the few, especially since he experienced war as a kid and a civil war in Konoha would leave the village vulnerableit's not rocket science
>>288983474Itachi may or may not have been a good person, but he was for sure a retarded person(a common thing in the Narutoverse)
>>288983474>Itachi was a good person
>>288982528The entire massacre ends up being a little retarded once you know the whole story. The concept of being torn between love of your family and duty to your country is great, the actual details of Itachi's entire life basically are dumb and full of holes.
>>288980639Could be that him turning into an ageless sentient wad of deli flesh didn't count as "alive" by edo standards
>>288979127>>288979139Chiyo was also revied as an old lady. Standard Edo I guess just revives a person at their last appearance before they died.
>>288976842thanks, OP!
>>288983474>Itachi was a good personFucking lmaoItachifags really are this delusional
>>288981552So once we hit 700, will we continue the daily from this chapter again since the genjutsu will then have come to an end? Or perhaps it's just going to start another loop? Maybe the daily is the infinite Tsukuyomi.
>>288983753it saved nothing in the end, useless endeavor
>>288983474>especially since he experienced war as a kid and a civil war in Konoha would leave the village vulnerableyes, this is actually good context that explains itachi's motivations, unlike whatever tf rasa/yashamaru had going on and it's just a worse version of itachi's story. itachi is an actual decent morally gray character unlike rasa/yashamaru who were just retards. though i'm not fond of the uchiha wank in general and how their powers evolve into whatever they need to counter anything. but that's a separate issue tied to powerscaling.
>>288976502itachi is retarded
>>288984996Christ you're a pretentious retard.
>>288976631i remember back when this chapter came out people thought naruto would get the rinnegan here.
maybe in another life
>>288984996>morally grayHe really isn't. The story is constantly trying to beat you over the head with how he's actually a completely good and noble guy who never did anything morally wrong, and everything that went bad is only Danzo's fault. Tobidara also literally goes "no one can judge Itachi for what he chose".
>>288980614>Wtf did Nagato even do in the Akatsuki for him to be this clueless?He just wanted them to gather the Tailed Beasts. He didn't care about why they joined or their past as long as they did the job
>>288985310Yeah, the actions and the reasons behind them are gray, but everything surrounding Itachi and his past just undermine all that.
>>288985212>SHITrin and CuckbitoNo
I would gladly raise Naruto's child over my own.
>>288978333He wants to flex on the uchigger again.
>>288978590>this is the fourth's son
>>288986095>uchiggerYou're using that word again.
>>288985198whatever, faggot.also itachi was a kid when he went through with the massacre unlike rasa/yashamaru who were adults and still went through with their retardation.and itachi admits he could've done differently at some point. his actions weren't perfect.i'm not saying i think itachi is a perfect character. i just think his story makes much more sense than rasa's/yashamaru's, whose motivations are just a worse version.itachi gets more context to explain his actions. itachi was a kid being forced to take on the burdens of people in power like the uchiha arranging the coup and danzo.>>288985310picrel. though i do dislike how danzo became a scapegoat to explain away most of konoha'a evil.
>>288986150Yes.
>>288986181>also itachi was a kid when he went through with the massacreWhich only makes him more of a pathetic gary stu
>>288985310If they wanted him to be good/gray they should've just retconned it so he didn't do the massacre at all. It's just such a stupidly evil action you can't really justify or move past that
>>288986181Yeah, that page is also really retarded and forced. >If only I had told you the truth from the start, then maybe you could have changed mother and father... Nigger, he was like 5 years old when the massacre happened. What do you think he could've told Fugaku that would've called off the coup and made Danzo not want you to genocide your clan anymore?
>>288986181>picrelThat's only in regards to his stupid brother drama with Sasuke. It doesn't address the fact that he murdered his entire clan, which is what the other post was talking about.
>>288986643Child sauce would've stood before the whole clan and shouted "Will....of fire!" and everyone claps
>>288986643it might've made fugaku reconsider if he thought more about how his kids' lives would be on the line. seeing his young crying child beg him not to have a civil war with konoha might've unironically done something. or at the very least it would've been something itachi could've tried even if unsuccessful, and it certainly would've led to a lot less drama with sasuke if he had known the truth from the start.>>288986744i meant more about how itachi expresses his actions weren't perfect.but you are right about how other characters don't judge itachi.
>>288981949kakashihe actually copies jutsu
I'm gonna shoot straight from the hip and say the truth. I think Itachi never drew a dime. He was a jobber.
>>288976408>...whatI like how Itachi is completely lost on the context
yashamaru would've been cooler to me if he simply harbored both love and hate for gaara and was more torn between choosing gaara or the safety of his village, with him ultimately succumbing to his hatred of gaara and choosing love of his village over gaara.instead, he's just a retard.having him as an edo would've allowed him to voice his own opinion as well instead of rasa speaking for him like he even knows how yashamaru felt about gaara.but that's just what i would've preferred.but above all, i would've preferred no zombie war.
>>288976537>You must not tarnish the reputation of the Uchiha The clan of what, two people? Both of which are the world's most wanted criminals? Horse has bolted there, Itachi
>>288987050Sometimes I forget the Sharingan does that. It's funny that feels more like a Kakashi exclusive thing than a Sharingan in general thing.
>>288956099>>288972675The only good women in Naruto are those that become breeding factories.
>>288988210None of the non-mother kunoichi became better upon marrying and giving birth.
>>288988210It disgusts me that Tsunade never passed on her top tier titty genes
>>288976631>Naruto got to eat crow that fight
It's sad that the Uchiha massacre is kept off the record in the future, per Itachi's sole request. Uchihas are forever remembered as victims of betrayal. I forget when, but there is a chapter where you see the civilians talking about it.
>>288988798>sad that the Uchiha massacre is kept off the recordThe truth of it I mean
>>288987050Did he ever do that after the Zabuza fight?
>>288976537It's geniunely very disturbing how Kishi doesn't seem to think that there's anything really wrong with how the village treated the Uchihas, even after a genocide.
>>288976620>hit the dog with a rasenshuriken>each chakra needle counts as a hit>dog gets a trillion heads
>>288989349Nah man, they deserved it, they had like hatred in their eyeballs or something. It was for the best.
>>288989349He generally doesn't seem to think people dying is bad unless it's one of his favorites.
>>288987050Kakashi quit doing that after the Zabuza arc. Now he's Kamui man.
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>>288977843Not what he says in Japanese.
>>288977943Of course it's not impressive, KCM1 Naruto is still a finger genjtusu victim.
>>288990569What does he say in Japanese?
>>288978982Perfect jinchuuriki have no immunity to any genjutsu. Bijuu just use partner method, which is useless against Tsukuyomi as Kakashi said earlier.
>>288979127It revives them weaker than they were when they were alive. They're slower and have less chakra according to the Founders.Kabuto just put his Kabussy into making Madara as close to his "prime" as he could. Madara's the only one who's arguably stronger bc he didn't have Rinnegan when he was a young man.
>>288979254Meh.
>>288979396Funnily enough the two hate masters here were the strongest shinobi before JJs came along. So I guess they had a point after all.
>>288980775It does seem the Biju breaks him out from inside his head, where time passes more slowly, so if it works, the speed might not be an issue.>>288990625I mean there is zero established method to do anything about Tsukuyomi other than having "stronger eyes", so I guess solo king oneshots the universe.
>>288979636The clan's honor is kind of in dire straits at the moment. They got killed by a 13 year old boy, Itachi was a mass murderer, Sasuke ran off to Orochimaru, tried to kidnap Bee, attacked the Kage Summit, and said he was going to destroy the village, and Obito just said he was Madara and started a world war.Add to that the Uchiha tried to take over the village and it only clears Itachi's name (and in part Sasuke's) while making the Uchiha seem even more unhinged as a whole. The Hokage's actions were 100% worse, but that wouldn't make the coup seen in a good light.So Itachi's statement made sense at the time. But things changed after the war because Sasuke was publicly crucial to saving the world.If Naruto and Kakashi had used Sasuke's reputation to release the truth with the revelation that Tobirama and his students had oppressed the clan for decades, I think it would have evened things out. So I think keeping it a secret was wrong, Kakashi only did it to protect the Hokage name in the end.
>>288980537Uchiha clan was started by one guy anon, and the Sharingan is a dominant gene because Sarada gets it.Sasuke could have single-handedly revived the whole clan, it's too bad he was gay.
>>288980614>Wtf did Nagato even do in the Akatsuki for him to be this clueless?Why the hell would Nagato even know about Itachi being a spy when Obito was the only one who was involved? Obito and Nagato were enemies, of course he wouldn't tell him.>Isn't out of character for Naruto to sing Itachi's praises here? Or does no one care about the Uchiha clan?Naruto never gave a shit about the Uchiha clan, a few chapters ago he was telling Sasuke he'd kill him so he wouldn't be an Uchiha in the afterlife.>The name was tarnished when you slaughtered your own clan for Danzo you glowie. No character will call him out on this.It made them look like jobbers and made him look evil, revealing they were trying to take over the village and failed would just make them look like warhungry jobbers.
>>288980898No that's a low IQ reading, he killed the clan to protect Sasuke. He threatened to destroy the village if Danzo hurt him.
>>288980996Kakashi likely knew Itachi would use genjutsu, so he sent a clone with the mission to just grab him and hold on while it suffered through the torture. It would still get KOd and probably KO Kakashi when it passed out, but it would buy the time to let Naruto attack Itachi.
>>288982320Orochimaru ran from Kakashi. :)
>>288990787Did they actually oppress the clan though, I mean what kinda discrimination did they get? I never got how being in charge of the police was an insult or whatever, seems like it would give you a lot of power and influence actually. They didn't get to be Hokage but is that it, is that all the oppression was?
>>288979461>>288982230It's not a huge reach to be fair, they probably wouldn't be able to take Kisame alive.But I agree it's better when characters can make wrong conclusions. Toriyama was good at this.
>>288982528See: >>288990858>>288982619Kisame just obeys Itachi.
>>288979755I mean yeah would you side with the guy puppeteering you as a zombie or the guy you allied with?
Any characters from other series that are like Minato and Itachi?What would you call them?
>>288976558Comedy fight
>>288991032>What would you call them?Gary Stus.
>>288986095>And failed.>>288986897I think if he cared about his kids he wouldn't have made a 4 year old go stand in a bloody warzone. Even Obito knew that shit wasn't something a child that age could process, and the whole reason the village was created was to stop clans from doing that shit to their kids. Never seen someone bring up the possibility, but I think there's a real chance that Itachi slaughtered the clan in part because he saw things in the field (~4-13 y/o) that were worse than death. Look at what samurai women used to do and the footage of Ukraine. If he thought for sure they would lose, maybe he thought killing them himself was better than the chance of something like that happening to the women and children after.The blackmail he used against Danzo could only work for one survivor because it was threatening to go scorched earth. If there were 2+ Uchiha kids left and Danzo hurt one he couldn't carry it out without dooming the other.Just my 2c though.
>>288990592See: >>288977980>>288981641>"Why isn't Sasuke going back to the village"
>>288990683Itachi did say it required the Sharingan but that probably wasn't true.
>>288990962I don't know, that could have just been a lie from Obito. Like the Nine Tails incident not being his fault.There is evidence in the form of Tobirama's attitude. They couldn't be publicly discriminatory, but it could have been an upper echelons thing.
>>288980608What does he call him?
>>288979254surprised the anime didn't add a filler arc where Kisame and Konan got a belated resurrection as well and they're going on their own secret tag-team-mission to reflect what Nagato and Itachi are doing right now
>>288990808Sarada getting it doesn't prove it's dominant, Naruto genetics are just moon wizard bullshit.But yeah Sasuke had one job and somehow did worse than Fugaku. Last pure Uchiha on earth and his clan restoration plan was making one kid then fucking off to wander dimensions like a homeless divorcee. Itachi really killed all those people for nothing.
>>288976620Isn't that move on the third panel the one that left Sasuke half dead? How come it didn't work this time, the eyes didn't seem to make any difference back then.
>>288991348"He"Usual vagueposting shit.
>>288991804Yeah, and it's even weirder that the anime instead went with reanimating the Sound 4 of all people.
>>288991804Oh, so that's why they weren't resurrected. So Itachi and Nagato could chill together.
>>288986095That's our word senju boy
>>288991804>Ino-Shika-Cho victims
>>288992354>Ino-Shika-Cho victimizers
>>288992354The sound 4 are more popular than Konan or Kisame
>>288990858Then he should worry about Sasuke and not "Oh my the Uchiha name is tarnished". Genuinely, why would he give a fuck about the Uchiha name after genociding the whole clan, leaving alive only 3 people, 2 of which are supermassive terrorists and the other is little kid that we wanted to "seek revenge". Yeah I bet that's not gonna tarnish the Uchina name. It just seems like this characters motivations are all over the place
>>288991815I think the Byakugan shows codominance so the Sharingan is probably dominant. Either way though Sasuke should have had way more kids.If he doesn't like the village just move somewhere else like Temari did. It was a waste.
>>288993097Based if true
>This ninja world.. Is hell..>The mist children are forced to kill each other in a ritual, a ritual I created and forced them into...>The world is consumed in war, which I started...>The akatsuki organization that was founded for peace was corrupted and turned into a terrorist organization... By me...>The fourth hokage and his wife were brutally murdered by me, and the nine tailed fox I personally released and controlled destroyed half the village...>If only I could save everyone from this evil, cruel world, I am such a good guy...
>>288993117He is worried about Sasuke, speedreader. That's why he opens with asking about Sasuke.He didn't genocide the whole clan, he killed all of them except Sasuke because ANBU would kill them all if he didn't.Revenge was a virtuous action in ancient Japanese culture, it's called katakiuchi.>Basically, Katakiuchi was permitted only to those of the samurai hierarchy, although it was occasionally performed by those of other social standings; such cases were overlooked as deeds by dutiful children, as with the Katakiuchi by those of the samurai hierarchy who did not go through the above-described procedures; and in some cases these deeds were praised. Furthermore, the custom in which, if the head of a samurai family was killed, his legitimate child had to get his revenge or wouldn't be allowed to succeed the family name, was widespread.
>>288993249The Byakugan also survived multiple generations of dilution before any descendants of Hamura could potentially practice incest.It's just that Namikaze genes are Hella dominant.
>>288993405>He didn't genocide the whole clan, he killed all of themLMAO>because ANBU would kill them all if he didn't.The solution to stopping a genocide is to commit one myself, but I'm worried about tarnishing my family name trust me.His dialogue this chapter is just weird. The Uchiha name was already tarnished before he died. Sasuke was a pupil of a super terrorist. Itachi was a super terrorist. And he knew soon it would be revealed Madara/Obito was the master of all super terrorists.
>>288991804>Konan hates Madara to the bone>Kisame is like the only character who actually fully believes in Madara's vision>they're both disillusioned by the ninja-world per their backstoriesI kind of dig it, this idea's got potential
>>288993284Sakon is just that cool.
>>288991196Yeah if that't true it's just retarded and Uchiha clan would've been unbeatable. (though I guess there's 5x as many powerful Sharingan users after the entire clan was massacred compared to their entire history before or something)
>>288979669I thought it was cloak mode
>>288976537>the name of the clan I genocided must not be tarnished!
>>288993425>The Byakugan also survived multiple generations of dilutionProof? And proof the Uchiha didn't?
>>288993574>except Sasuke>Revenge was a virtuous action in ancient Japanese cultureSasuke wasn't considered Orochimaru's pupil speedreader, he was considered his captive until he killed him. Once he killed Itachi he was considered a hero, the villagers were literally talking about how he would be awarded massive awards and riches for doing so.It was only tarnished when Sasuke joined up with Obito and tried to kidnap Killer Bee. And that could have been hushed up since Bee survived and Sasuke's actions at the Kage Summit could have been explained as the effects of genjutsu (Mei literally connected Danzo's genjutsu to Obito's).
>>288994901Anon there was nobody with the byakugan gene before Hamura and Kaguya.>And proof the Uchiha didn't?I didn't claim the Uchiha didn't survive multiple generations of dilutions.
>>288995086Sasuke was only considered Orochimaru's captive retroactively after he killed him.He intentionally betrayed the leaf and was even registered on a bingo book with a kill order because of it.
>>288995029Why is he bottomless?
>>288995231He's wearing shorts
>>288995326Those are the most skin colored shorts i've ever seen
>>288995473The anime likes to be misleading and make you think you're seeing Tayuya butt and then zooms out to see you're looking at Sakon butt
>>288995604>Tayuya butthmmmm
>>288995720The sound 4s biggest sin is allowing the guys to wear spats, ofcourse Orochimaru would make it that way
>>288995086>Sasuke wasn't considered Orochimaru's pupil speedreader, he was considered his captive until he killed him. Once he killed Itachi he was considered a hero, the villagers were literally talking about how he would be awarded massive awards and riches for doing so.Damn where did you read that fanfic?
>>288995835spats are hot tho
>>288995123>Anon there was nobody with the byakugan gene before Hamura and Kaguya.And there was nobody with the Sharingan before Kaguya got the Rinne-Sharingan...>I didn't claim the Uchiha didn't survive multiple generations of dilutions.So there is no point.
>>288995176No, Team 7 went to save him. Not kill him. They tried to kidnap Itachi to lure Sasuke back to the village. Naruto would not do that if he was going to be executed.
>>288995876It's in the manga. The flashback when Itachi and Sasuke are fighting Kabuto.
>>288996331I don't think you properly read this reply chain.
>>288996370Sai was sent to kill him and in that very arc we see Sasuke on a bingo book.He is considered a criminal officially, Tsunade babying Naruto and Sakura's whims does not mean Sasuke isn't an outlaw on paper.
>>288996457I think you just don't understand genetics.
>>288996512How exactly does me saying genetic traits surviving multiple generations of dilution are considered dominant implies i don't know shit about genetics?
>>288996506Danzo was not acting under the Hokage's orders, the book of targets that Sai had was not a standard issue bingo book.He wasn't declared a rogue shinobi until Tsunade went into a coma.
Chapter 550: The KotoAmatsukami
A little early today, I know.
>>288996450You conveniently ignored the other two super terrorists with the Uchiha name.If I'm criticising the author for changing a character's motives in today's chapter, you can't bring a later chapter to prove your point. That just proves my point that the author deliberately changed the characters to fit his new retcon.
I love Naruto
What the hell does Naruto even mean to Itachi? He met him like twice, once when he visited Konoha and once when Naruto ran around and ate the crow, so why does he jerk him off so much?
>>288996839You would think be would use Shisui's eye to prevent the coupe/Uchiha massacre...
>>288996566Alleles are only dominant or recessive in relation to one another. It seemed like you were saying the Byakugan expressed codominance because the Hyuuga ancestors had dilution. I can't think of a mechanism for that because the concentration of an allele in the gene pool won't affect its expression. But even if it could there's nothing showing the Uchiha experienced less dilution.
>>288996839
How many world breaking abilities can you shove into one character to make them seem like a genius?
>>288996851>>288997398>takes 10 years to reactivate Well that explains that. Awfully convenient. Also>my plan was to brain wash my little brother one last time for Konoha's elders
>>288997485What's funny is Itachi intended to use Shisui's eye to fix how he fucked up his little brother. Turns out telling your brother to seek power after murdering his parents right in front of him, and then forcing him to relive it for several days, twice, did wonders for his psyche. His only solution? Give Sasuke the Shisui lobotomy.
>>288996679>>288997251arigatou op
>>288996764>instantly takes out the undefeatable summonsAnd people say Amaterasu is useless.
>>288996679
>>288996781>Uchiha Itachi is clearly different!!sigh...
>>288996781>Itachi's one flaw: cruelty to animals
>>288996904Holy shit Nagato TANKED that
>>288996839>The backup plan was mindraping Sauce again
>>288998180Remember when Ninja had human bodies that could be killed by a Kunai? (I know edos regenerate, but he's not even doing that here)
Nagato is too op, imagine him healthy
>>288996851So this piece of shit would have brainwashed Sasuke immediately after murdering his whole clan if he wasn't cucked by the 10 year long cooldown? I can't tell if this is better or worse than the mental torture with Tsukuyomi because all it takes is one Byakugan user seeing he's under genjutsu and releasing him for Sasuke to get completely mind broken.
>>288998180He is an Edo Tensei zombie. This is actually very similar to how Kisame handled a V2 lariat, but the chakra absorption and regeneration is even more efficient due to the Rinnegan and Edo Tensei. The real Nagato would probably have died from this.
>>288996930Healed Nagato jumped forward to grab Naruto here. He can use his legs now.
>>288996904>they keep sucking black ninja's chakra
>>288998324>Healed Nagato jumped forward to grab Naruto here. He can use his legs now.I think he's just using Shunshin like when he's catching up to Bee here >>288996888I remember that he loses this fight because he couldn't move his legs.
>>288997109Itachi is impressed that Naruto cares so much for his brother despite Sasuke defecting from Konoha. Also, although Itachi was never serious about it, he had a personal interest in Naruto as his capture target and being the legacy of the Fourth Hokage, whom Itachi probably admired.
>>288998059>Uchiha Itachi is clearly different!!>sigh...
>>288996851Ah, the beautifully constructed world of Narutowhere eyes are like magical artifacts that store power for 10 years and can be programmed to automatically trigger
>>288998211>Remember when Ninja had human bodies that could be killed by a Kunai?Was that before chapter 1?
>>288998524Only when Itachi does it though.
>>288998180Paraplegic Nagato vs Raikage when
>>288998063Humans are animals so that checks out
>>288978800he is. he was gawking at tsunade. naruto just didn't have enough milk
>>288996851>>288996839Greatest brother in the world
>>288998253Itachi is a die hard glowie.
>>288997460GODzo.
nagato OP
>>288999247you ain't see nothin' yet
>>288996792Wouldn't Kabuto be able to overule this genjutsu by stripping Itachi of his character? The Genjutsu is a mind manipulation order on Itachi. But Itachi can just be a puppet if Kabuto wishes it?Am I wrong?
>>288996679adorable
>>288999368>what if Itachi had a weakness and weren't the perfect shinobi>am I wrong?Yes.
>>288996878Nigga just absorb it with the preta path
>>288999368I think you're right. The only explanation I can think is by stripping their personality, Kabuto is placing their minds under his own genjutsu so they don't resist. However Shisui's genjutsu overrules Kabuto's.
>>288996878>>288996888Why is Nagato suddenly so locked in? Last few chapters he was pretty shit
>>288999368>Wouldn't Kabuto be able to overule this genjutsu by stripping Itachi of his character? The Genjutsu is a mind manipulation order on Itachi. But Itachi can just be a puppet if Kabuto wishes it?The genjutsu is too powerful and Kabuto's control through the summoning contract and even the tag in Itachi's head is completely overriden. However, putting another tag into Itachi's head would likely restore Kabuto's control.
>>288996711I was thinking yeah whatever even Sasuke was able to dodge Amaterasu in their fight, so Naruto should be able to dodge it easily.. But then I remembered Itachi was holding back like crazy to not actually kill Sasuke. I wonder how strong Itachi's Amaterasu is with intent to kill.
>>288999467Kabuto assumed direct control, as shown by Nagato's eyes going dark.
>>288999493Sasuke was not able to dodge it. Sasuke started running at top speed and Itachi was still able to catch him, despite being very drained already and also trying not to hit Sasuke in the face or other vital area. KCM Naruto is faster and has sensing so he could likely be able to dodge if Itachi targeted him directly. Here, however, Itachi did not target him and also wasn't acting with hostile intent so Naruto got surprised that Itachi seemed to just miss him.
>>288996727You fucked up big time, snakeboi. Imagine the fear of knowing that an immortal Itachi is now your enemy.
>>288999600>Kabuto can't just cancel Itachi's summons to send him back to the afterlife without also canceling all the other zombiesOops lol, looks like there's a flaw.
>>288996851>o my Hashirama cells
>>288996623Which means that if not for Tsunade babying team 7, Sasuke would've been considered a criminal.
>>288999600Couldn't he refresh his edo's? Just deactivate them all and re summon them. It's justified if I was him.
>>288996851WAIT WAIT WAIT WAIT.Last chapter>Itachi: Sasuke turned his back to the village? Why? How?This chapter:>Itachi: I expected Sasuke to turn against the village, that's why I made a backup plan with Shisui's eyeMAKE IT MAKE SENSE
>>288999684Kishi thought it was kind of lame something was outside of Itachi's expectations.
>>288996781The Solo King took one look at immortal Pain and immediately won.
>>288999894Where's magnet man?
>>288999958dead
>>288996792>Itachi's one personality trait is protecting Konoha
>>288999958Where should magneto go? Does he have more stuff going on in filler?
>>288996866Behold, one of the most egregious panels in the whole manga!
>>289000105Jonin.>Does he have more stuff going on in filler?No.
>>288996930>>288996946>>288997234>>288997251Arigatou, OP!>>288997420The one who claimed it was codominant was another anon.>>288997856That's my line!
>>288999684To be fair I think I remember Itachi asking Naruto what he would do if Sasuke attacked the village. I think he wanted to see if Sasuke knew the truth without eluding to it.
>>289000135
>>289000295Thank you!
>>288998536This should have put Iruka in a wheelchair, it would have made his protection of Naruto into a sacrifice and way more significant than just protecting him without any cost.
>>289000295Why Lee and Neji in jonin? They didn't do anything yet?
>>288996866Itachi is the COOLEST guy
>>289000295Holy shit, Sakura finally has some company in not impressed tier
>>288996866Plot needs to move on, I get it, but this should have been the perfect time to make Naruto vent his indignation at the unfairness of the Uchiha situation. I mean-Itachi killed his family-Itachi mindraped Sasuke-Itachi wanted to turn Sasuke into a loyal lapdog without a mind on his ownSurely Naruto would have had an opinion on at least one of the three points above, wouldn't he?But nooo, the one time Naruto should have acted like the loudmouth emotional brat he is, instead he just smiles and thanks Itachi.
>>288999894>Jobraiya still that highshit chart
>>289000295Skill level? If you're get to Jonin then you're Jonin, someone please explain "sub Jonin" to me. Like barely passable? I can see that for a lot of them there.
>>289000408Orochimaru...
>>289000351Lee was Jonin tier with the gates in part 1, and Naji is literally a jonin by rank I guess. Is Neji wearing a choker in that image? He looks like a slut
>>289000416Chunin and below
>>289000351They did fight a Kisame clone at the beginning of Shippuden and did alright.
>>288996866Itachi and Naruto lowkey have a better friendship and deeper bond than Sasuke and Naruuto
>>288996711How is Itachi bleeding?
How many chapters until Rin appears again? I wanna see her...
>>289000490There are like 10-15 characters that Naruto have a better established friendship with than he does with Sasuke.
>gives jinchuriki rinnegan>doesn't give itachi oneis kabuto retarded?
>>288996866>My little brother is so lucky to have a friend that basically forced some creepy stalker suicide pact on to him when they last met
>>289000562Itachi is closer to Naruto than his own brother whom he allegedly sacrificed everything for
>>289000397there's a very real case to be made that turning sasuke into a mindcontrolled lapdog is all Naruto ever wanted out of life
>>288996851This is insane
>>289000521Why is Rin always giving off 'that' look?
>>288997251Cheers
>>288996851Sasuke is so abused by his brother and best friend I can't even blame him for going crazy and evil for a while there.
>>289000723yk why
Reminder kishi is itachi fag
>>288996851God this is so retarded on so many levels. First off, Sasuke didn't even get his eyes when he actually tried to crush Konoha. If he actually went through with it, then he would have either succeeded in destroying everyone there or would have gotten himself killed. And he also clashed with Naruto before this, which makes the fact that he didn't get EMS then stupidly convenient. Second of all, does this mean that Itachi actually cared about Konoha more than he cared for Sasuke, since he was willing to brainwash him to protect the village, even if that went against his wishes? And lastly, why the hell was he acting surprised in the last chapter when he learned Sasuke wanted to destroy the leaf if he was already aware this was a possibility and he prepared a backup plan for it? There are retards out there who genuinely think Itachi is a well written character btw.
>>289001435>Second of all, does this mean that Itachi actually cared about Konoha more than he cared for SasukeYes. Sasuke has been nothing but a tool for the majority of the story.
>>288996824>>288996839>>288996851>I put the eye of my friend into one of my summon crows, and then implanted a genjutsu into said eye, and then put that crow inside of someone else for the sole purpose of reacting to my own eye powers to my own brother under a subtle mind control to force him to protect the village. But not immediately or against others because this ultimate genjutsu has a decade long cooldown.Nothing can be simple with Uchiha, can it.
>>289001435>And lastly, why the hell was he acting surprised in the last chapter when he learned Sasuke wanted to destroy the leaf if he was already aware this was a possibility and he prepared a backup plan for it?this is a weak point in an otherwise valid listplanning for something with a 0.1% chance doesn't mean you can't be surprised it happens
>>288996781>>288996792SOLO KING
>>289000818Sasuke is treated as an edgy teenager by most of the fandom. But, considering his two closest rivals are a retard stalker and his family genociding older bro, a lot of his actions are pretty reasonable.
>>289000397Itachi is a Konoha lapdog, of course he loves him. This is perfectly IN character for Naruto, despite what others say
>>289000397Itachis talk no jutsu is just on another level.
>>289002097>Sasuke is treated as an edgy teenager by most of the fandomIs he really, though? Most people think he's unironically cool, and most people also defend him and his reaction, that thinking that everything he did was justified because he was hecking traumatized.I personally cringe whenever I hear a retard go "as a kid I thought Sasuke was a cringy emo, now I've matured and think he's cool".
>>289000397It is kind of fucked up to think that, if Naruto had access to Kotoamatsukami, he would have used it to brainwash Sasuke into coming back to Konoha with 0 hesitation, and everyone else inuniverse would have considered him a messiah for it.
Itachi is so busted he makes a Christian man use the blasphemous term 'God tier'https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzuZFFQ_z0Q
>>289000472Alright? They basically pushed him around and had to let Gai do all the work.
>>288999664>Couldn't he refresh his edo's? Just deactivate them all and re summon them. It's justified if I was him.It would screw up the war. He'd need to find a lot of sacrifices to restore them, and one of them is more special than Itachi.
>>288999684Itachi was shocked but not surprised. It was his worst fear that he thought wasn't too likely but possible.
>>289002820But he casually summoned all of them against Obito + Madara. You telling me he has to sacrifice someone every time he re summons them?
>>289002858His reaction was pretty surprised.
>>289000397>>289000644>>289002184>>289002380This is another huge difference between part 1 and part 2 Naruto that people don't usually talk about, in land of waves Naruto is completely against the idea of shinobi and people being used as mere tools for the goverment or for the sole benefit of someone else, but here it seems like Naruto drank the konoha cool-aid and thinks everything that benefits konoha is good.
>>289000599Tobi was the one who gave the jinchuuriki Rinnegan and Sharingan.
>>289002919>But he casually summoned all of them against Obito + Madara. You telling me he has to sacrifice someone every time he re summons them?He had already prepared them; that was just summoning the coffins. Kabuto can summon the coffins anytime he wants. But canceling Edo Tensei would cause all the souls to go free and Kabuto would have to start from scratch.
Reminder that everything would've turned out well for Sasuke if Itachi just let himself be defeated (like he supposedly intended) instead of being a prideful fuck and making sure Sasuke knew he couldn't win from the get go at the very end.
>>288996851kek, I completely forgot that Itachi's original plan with the crow was that he was going to mindrape Sasuke into being a good guy, somehow in my mind it was always just a backup plan for himself to escape the edo tensei.
>>288996824Shisui>Itachi
>>289003940Imagine being the guy whose actual eye ability can only be used once every 10 years, instead of that being a bonus on top of all the other shit.
>>289004017Yeah but it's an ability that can turn Madara into your sex slave
>>288999600He tried to chew more than he could bite.
>>289004064Yeah, I guess you only need to make the most powerful person in the world your slave and then you'll be the most powerful even without any abilities.
>>289000397If Naruto were to do that, Itachi would likely respond with something like>If Sasuke were to end up doing something like that, brainwashing him would be the only way left to "save" him. If that were the case, would you be willing to kill him instead of making him an ally to the village again? Then, Naruto would either have to give another generic "I WILL RESCUE SAUCEGAY NO MATTER WHAT!!!!" speech or he would have to have his views be actually challenged, something which part 2 is vehemently allergic against.
>>289004074>>288999600He's legitimately stronger than Itachi by a comfortable margin, it's fine
>>288996851>I couldn't use Shisui's eyes like 3 months prior because 10 years haven't past>But now 10 years have indeed pastWow what a (lame) coincidence.
Who is more intelligent?Itachi or Minato?
>>289004263Both of them are on a level that is incomprehensible to us mortals, so we can never know.
>>288996851>Unless you pssess Senju Hashirama chakraI have a theory and until proven otherwise I consider it canon.Itachi toyed with the idea to implement Hashirama cells into himself to reawaken Shisui's eyes sooner to save Sasuke sooner. But it backfired and he died from those cells (aka ninja aids).
>>289004171H-haha so true. Don't worry, Kabutobros.. Itachi isn't even really that strong, intelligent, powerful, handsome, or all around amazing. We got this..!
>>289004064>Yeah but it's an ability that can turn Madara into your sex slaveImpossible. Only one thing can do that.
New news next WSJ issue
>>289004557The thumbnail made me think Yugito was next to Naruto
>>289004191>Wow what a (lame) coincidence.Yes, just imagine a period of nine years for a power to become unsealed ending at the most convenient moment.
>>289004456Yield to Senju cock, you damn female..!!
>>289004584Sounds like I've successfully Kotoamatsukami'd you into loving Yugito!
>>288996679>blond teen takes BBC (Big Black Crow) down his throat
>>288996851Why not something like>Because I wanted to give Sasuke the benefit of the doubt and use this genjutsu only as a last resort to protect the village. If he took my eyes and turned them against the village and his friends, only then would they activate
>>289004595To be fair, Yhwach probably planned this invasion with this exact date in mind.
>>289004667damn
>>289004829Fu is such a good design, what a waste
>>289004829Why is Yugito beat up?
>>289004847Kishi is good at making good looking characters. Shame about the writing.
>>289004899itachi... onee-chan...?
>>289004898Character design is by far this manga's strongest point.
>>289004829>>289004667I don't know why but Yugito has the air about her that just screams she is fucking crazy passionate in bed
>>289004968>I don't know whyI could think of a couple of reasons why:>cat themed and lean, agile build>wild mane of hair that's normally strictly bound together>those eyes
>>289004847>Fu is such a good design, what a wasteI was astonished that Fu was actually a girl.
>>289004899Itachi already looks feminine as well, so it's hard to make a female variant of him look distinct.
Itachi would willingly sell his body if it meant the greater good of the village.
>>289005104Long nails that leave your back bleeding
>>289005401Danzo already had his way with him
>>289005462In the genjutsu Itachi cast on Danzo. In reality, Danzo was having all his holes filled (by Itachi and clones)
>>289005513Honestly? With the amount of humiliation Orochimaru got put through, he might as well have been a female villain in Kishi's story
>>288976404He's so fucking fast wtf>>288978165Like a fucking month. Kishi goes out of his way to shit on Nagato so goddamn much here. Fuck I hate this arc. It does get better here now though... But Jesus fucking christ its like Kishi sought out to piss all over his ebst characters. Thank God jiraiya wasn't revived until boruto.
>>289005487Wake up, Sasuke.
>>288996839holy naruto glazing. Easy there Itachi
>>289005401That's my hero.
>>289005513I thought that was you-know-who until I opened the image
>>288997042>Amaterasu is a close range jutsu only
>>288997139this is such a retarded asspull.
>>288997251thanks op.
>>289006607Why do you keep thanking yourself to bump your dead general?
>>289005633i have a schizo theory that orochimaru got sidelined because he was unpopular.
>>289006996My man Shino beat out by a tadpole, tragic
>>289007030the tadpole beat out several characters.meanwhile, look at how popular hayate is... it's gotta be the damn eyebags, right?eyebag theory bros?
>>289006996>The original kurama designMan I hate how badly they fucked him up trying to turn him into some cuddly mascot sidekick for naruto, giving him that bizarre quasi-humanoid figure with a cutesy furry face."the literal manifestation of hate" my ass
>>289007207>picrelfucking awful, what were they thinking?
>>288978590this bitch has got a long ass back
>>289007222OG kurama had real presence, he felt scary, not some overgrown plushie toy
>>289007222i know. man fox kurama is the ugliest tailed beast. og kurama was one of my favorites right under matatabi.
>>289006996>ChojiAnd he remains unpopular.
>>289006996>dosu at 38thno wonder he randomly decided to job to gaara.>ninja turtle at 48thwait, ninja turtles were in naruto!?i know they probably mean guy's turtle but still kek
>>289006996I wish Anko and Kurenai were more popular, they were so cool looking.
>>289006996Kurenai being that unpopular feels wrong even considering the amount of fujoshi within the fansom at the time.
>>288996764that's a raven...is there no difference in japanese between crow and raven? do they use karasu for both?
>>289000599proof?
>>289006996>masashi kishimoto at 21stkek>kishimoto sensei's impressions>while i'm proud that naruto took 1st place, at the same time, i feel that everyone who lost to a tadpole should sit down and think about what they did! thank you to everyone who voted!holy kek.btw, seiza/正座 sitting is sitting up straight and proper in the traditional way where jp people sit on their heels. it's a normal sitting posture but i guess here it's used in the way teachers/parents give their kids a time out and tell them to seiza sit.so i put "sit down and think about what they did".
>>289007396Barring her eyes, she has no interesting or noteworthy qualities. The most she had done in the story at the time of the poll was call Shino creepy and say Shikamaru was smart.
>>289007397yes they use karasu for both. sometimes you might see dai karasu/big karasu for ravens though.
>>288996764>>288996781i kind of feel bad for the summons honestly. they were just doing what they pacted to do. they weren't obvious assholes like the snake boss
>>289007531Yeah, but she looks really good though
>>289007531Her being worried about Hinata in that flashback with Hiashi didn't do her any favors compared to Asuma who didn't even beat the sound fodder yet?
>>288996811>>288996824>>288996839yeah yeah yeah, shisui was so smart and strong and handsome ad is dick was bigger than tobirma's hate for every uchiha and e was so good at genjutsu even men conceived his kids because illusions convinced them they could. what else you got?
>>289007180i guess gaara being the more popular villain that arc is why kishi kept making foil villains
>>289007656Probably not. Asuma had a cigarette, which meant the audience knew he was cool.
>>288996839>high integrity like shisuinaruto probably has the least integrity of any of the konoha kidz save sakura, what are you talking about?
Imagine how cool Itachi would be if he smoked cigarettes
>>289004595bleachposting is not the great support you think it is. the whole story is a guessing toddler's dive into every trope you can grab
>>289006996>Itachi at number 33 when he only appeared in a minor flashback and his design wasn't even decided on yet>>289007180>Minato at number 12 when he hasn't appeared at allNaruto fans are so retarded, man.
>>289002924unfortunately many idealistic people are changed by being enmeshed in the society they wish to change. it's a common tactic of militant governments to control the vectors of socialization in a culture, and if they only people you can identify with are fellow pawns, you're often hesitant to fight the system itself even if it's for their benefit
>>289007180>>289006996>Sakura at 14th>"Dang, guess I will never really use her character">Choji at 50th>"YOU WILL LIKE CHOJI YOU WILL LIKE CHOJI YOU WILL LIKE CHOJI YOU WILL LIKE CHOJI!!!"Why is Kishi like this?
>>288996851>10 year cooldownJesus... Even a 1 year cooldown would feel excessive, honestly.
>>289008435Maybe the cooldown is much bigger due to the eye being inside a crow.
>>289008274he just can't write women, he kinda hates them, might be gay. And his plan worked in the end, I do like Choji.
>>288997251thanks, OP!
>>289008540Shikamaru...
>>289007180It does make you wonder why Kishimoto killed him off for no real reason considering how popular he was.
Temmy
>>289008134we got to see a picture of minato at least. a lot of people must've liked his design.>>289008944yeah, but i guess popularity isn't everything.lee was really popular but kishi still sidelined him.
>>28900894413th with 396 votes is not that popular. If Kishimoto actually cared about the popularity polls, Iruka would have gotten a much bigger role.
>>289008982neji is 13th. hayate is 8th, right under gaara at 7th. eyebags have powers. i'm telling you...
>>289008982I would've expected Hayate to stick around as one of those recurring background ninja that hang around Konoha all the time. Iruka is probably the strangest one though, like arguably the most important person in Naruto's life maybe, almost doesn't matter at all after the first chapter.
>>289009067The poll came out in chapter 107, and Hayate was already dead by then.
>>289009105so... what does this mean? eyebags have power?
>>289008274choji is shikamaru's best friend.