Chapter 195: A Martial Art Called Pro WrestlingArchive:https://desuarchive.org/a/search/subject/daily%20kengan/start/2025-12-14/order/asc/
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"We" are "on time"
"I" have "arrived"~ ( 'з｀)ﾉ⌒
>>288981788>>288981806>>288981839>>288981847Look at all of this damage that is not being dealt to anyone at all.What is this, a genuine wrestling match? They rehearsed the fight before and are hitting each other enough to look nasty but not hurt like that?
>>288981774Retsudo will finally do something this volume!
>>288981907>>288981912>>288981926This is such an insane feat of strength
Chapter 196: Find for Yourself
>>288981886Okubo you were there in KAT to see how this works.
>>288981907>>288981912I think one aspect of the current fight "choreography" -if it can even be called that- is that the different grappling techniques always get completely put, and then Sandrobitch has to find a way for the opponent to undo them, resorting to bullshit like superfinger or this shit, instead of having the opponent mitigate the technique before it's completely locked. Among other things it really makes fights look Pokemon-like.
>>288981942To be honest it mainly makes Okubo look like a gigantic chump, for being overpowered by Seki's left arm alone.
>>288981886Koga please stop hexing from the sidelines
>>288981847Haruo just looks like a sphere with hair
>>288981995New meta, you "throw" the "timing" off by fucking up the move!
>>288981970How do guys like Seki get around the no-kill rule when he does stupid shit like this?>"I'm getting choked out? BODY SLAM THE BACK OF HIS HEAD ONTO THE GROUND"Just praying the other guy can tank it
>>288982024>face to fist style, how'd you like that
>>288982024>>288982031>Face to foot style, how do you like it?
Chapter 197: Golden Eight Seconds
>>288982109what.
>>288982109>he also stops thinkingSo that's actually a buff. Shen you bastard you didn't nerf yourself at all!
>>288981847>Alisa ahegao keeping her eyes as open as possible so she sees as much of it as she can
>>288981978Yes, it's annoying. There are instances of this happening in Ashura too, but I think this one is particularly egrigious beyond most examples because he hasn't got grip strength like Akoya, the devil lance like Kuroki or even Koga's creative use of ironbreaker he just sort of goes "lol didn't work" and gets out of it.
>using telepathy>to exchange garbage bullshido explanations
>>288982185>>288982195How the fuck does any of this work?!
>>288981970Okubo's head is MASSIVE
>>288982102>>288982109>>288982122>>288982133>>288982143>>288982147>>288982157This is quite possibly the worst "power up" technique you could give a guy who's whole thing is he's an MMA fighter who's really good at switching between stylesIt didn't even last Okubo enough time because he fucking gassed himself out. This is basically throwing away a win and gifting it to someone else
DONE
>>288981847Man Alissa needs to get a new job but I guess Kengan and Purgatory pays really fucking well for her to deal with this kind of shit
>>288982243She likes it
>>288982234Not only is it a stupid upgrade for Okubo but in particular it's a terrible idea to use it against Sekibayashi, who is gigantic and very durable and who's strategy relies on his opponents gassing out
>>288982243>Alissa needs to get a new jobthe fuck you on about
>>288981847AND IT'S SPHERICAL
>>288982243KvP trauma has locked her into this. There's no going back for her
>>288981886>pro wrestling only works if your opponent's also a pro wrestlerMaybe in terms of landing the moves, but in terms of taking them if someone is throwing one out for real and not in the as little harmful as possible way you'd do in a match I feel like someone who isn't a trained wrestler would get hit even worse if they don't know the proper way to not get hurt. And also like a pro wrestler is still fucking strong, they're still lifting and throwing each other even if it's for show. It may actually be the one sport where no one give a shit if you're juicing too since it's all presentation and not a real fight anyway. Wrestling being performance doesn't mean wrestlers aren't strong.But also wrestling is fairly big on holds and grapples and irl those just fuck 90% of other martial arts anyway because it turns out you can't do shit when you have no leverage.
>>288982109Me when wednesday
>>288981847Haruo looks like a Family Guy character.
>Questioned why Okubo wouldn't be a Seki victim during the Purg arc>He literally fucking is one hereLmao, rest in piss Bozo.
>>288981989Bizarrely off-model bottom right panel.
>>288981847hey lois
>>288982310I feel like it got the intent behind wrestling, but the purpose is completely inverted. It's as you said, but (in the way it's presented in the page) wrestling moves "work" on wrestlers and the whole bit about sync work in the sense that they're doing as little damage as possible (not going all out, bracing for it, etc), all of which I found extremely weird.
>>288981800Okubo Culo
>>288981854Imagine if he just took a massive lick here haha
>>288981989RIP OkuboYou had a good run
>>288982223>>288982237Has Okubo considered going limp to disperse the damage?
>>288981970KerplunkKerSPLAT
>>288982237I still hold the opinion that this fight isn't good and fully cements Okubo as a complete joke character. Giving Agito a hard time might as well have been a fluke at this pointThis fight also makes Seki's ability to tank everything overstay it's welcome a bit, that explanation for why Seki tanked Okubo's punches is essentially telling us he took no damage at all. The fight was decided before it even began
>>288982237rip bozo
>>288982223>>288982237I love this fuckin move
>>288982225After KvP is no time to be questioning the physics and biology of Kengan's writing. Accept it and move in, it makes more sense than at least half the stuff Ohma did against Lolong.
>>288982243No other job will make her this horny.
>>288981847Did the ai just go>fat guy with glasses=peter griffin
>>288982423Or tightening his muscles. Or tightening his muscles a slightly different way. Or slightly shifting his position. Or
>>288982109ahahaha what the fuck is this shit?
>>288982551Hardening the muscles of his face
>>288982333Did you get any responses back then?
>>288981989>It was imperfect. That's why it hurt.A less seen hex from the 'you're too strong' school, a bit less powerful since it doesn't instantly win the fight but still quite damaging.>>288982016>He was a striker>And he was going for grapples.Back to the classics.
>>288982109By the way don't real athletes do the opposite sometimes? Isn't hyperventilating to put as much oxygen in as you can a thing?
>>288982612Just one that was spoilered.
MORE VIOLENCECOME ON RIHITO KOGA CAN STILL BREATHE YOU HAVE TO USE RAZOR'S EDGE RIGHT NOWBREAK ALL OF OKUBO'S BONES SEKI THAT'S WHY YOU'RE BEING PAIDTHE "INSIDE"? THAT SOUNDS GREAT LET ME JOINTHAT BLOOD POOL DOESN'T LOOK BIG ENOUGH, I THINK YOU NEED TO DOUBLE TAP MARK MYERS
>>288982031Thorns build baby.
>>288981847I was going to edit haruo too but he already looks ridiculous.
>>288981854I wish Okubo was Xia and Seki was me right there.
>>288981818>Looks like weight's making all the difference here!I wish it did against misasa too.
>>288981961YESKILL OKUBO AND VAGUEPOST ABOUT CONNECTIONS AND NICOS
>>288982061>>288982083Isn't it supposed to be bad to punch the forehead?
It must really really suck being a normal Martial Artist and living in a world full of fucking magic>Niko Style being a magical bag of "Fuck You">Koei Style being SO MAGICAL it's only two techniques can take you far>Raishin Style is the primo "Get chin checked" technique>Inaba Style, fucking HAIR>Fuckin' formlessYou have to pray that you're gifted some genetic freak enhancement like Superman Syndrome, Removal, being one of the good guys, preferably the one's with special treatment or something unique to you like Razors Edge if you want a chance at not being total fodderOkubo tries in vain to become one of these things to compensate for being normal and he had the misfortune of going against a guy with special treatment
>>288981989NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO THEY'RE ALREADY DEAD
>>288982467I never met a single person before this fight who thought Seki was above Okubo. Though it was closer than I remember it's still a pretty stupid decision and Okubo has to fight like an absolute idiot to make it happen (not to mention Seki's escape from the RNC is ludicrous and purely out of Sandro's anti-grappling bias).
>>288982976Seki didn't have any of those things but he did have popularity power which proved even more decisive.
>>288982976Lolong is the real hero of Omega.A lone wolf trying desperately to defy fate and hang with the top tiers using normal martial arts.
>>288982060That top panel reminds me of earlier ashura's artstyle
>>288982797>>288982931>>288982995>bloodthirsty chick who loves men fighting>agito_neuron_activation.png
>>288982835A rare edit where the editor finally takes some of the heat.
>>288983043I think Seki might be Daro's favorite.He tends to get the best visuals.
>>288983095He seems to be, and that's a rare sensible observation from Sandro really.
>>288982797>>288982931It makes me very happy to see "me" post more of the meme "I" started during the KvP matches. I suppose we have truly become "connected" now.
>>288983158The various memes that have come up from this reread are pretty good."Green" ones aren't stuck in the metaphysical meme meta of Reader vs. Sandro for example.And then we see things like them recreating memes that already existed, which truly proves the "synchronicity of the strong"
>Then something just snapped, something inside of me>I didn't care anymore>I didn't care about being a referee >I didn't care about about Kenyan or Purgatory >I didn't care if I lived>I didn't care about anything>And then... "it" happened
>>288983158Psycho Alisa is weirdly hot
>>288981886>He's the worst kind of opponent because... he doesn't want to get hurtWow... really?
>>288983008When this fight was first coming out there were a lot of anons thinking Okubo had this. I think we were still in that phase of defending certain fights because a fan favorite won at the time>>288983039Lolong is faintly magical>Knows a school of Silat but it's unknown so someone like Misasa can't just tell you how to defend against it>Somehow at the top of Purgatory when the rest of his coworkers are supremely magical by nature, no explanation for how he does it other than "He just does"Lolong operates on aura and mystic, his magic isn't so blatant like Razors Edge or Removal. He convinces you that he's "Strong" through his "Character" and that completely messes up your game going in because you're focused on trying to not get clonked with some special attack and you instead get clonked by a simple elbow to the head. The thing that ties it all together his unknown school of Silat that is probably just him adding some flair, extra tech and whatever, it's not a real school but because it's "unknown" it helps give it mystic and aura, magic
>>288983158For me it's how often Ryuki's red/blue skeleton tulpas show up. It was probably around in the old times too, but this reread was the first time I saw them and it's hilarious.
>>288983705>nikker¿wah?
>>288981907>"Forget it, breaking out via brute force is impossible.">>288981912>*breaks out anyway>"Whoa!?"Kengan.
>>288983209They have "gone beyond Z".
>>288982210You could say he was amazing.
>>288981847She's looking through her fingers she loves it.
>>288982025>purposely fighting wrong as a joke is now viable
>>288981970That is not a good sound to hear
>>288981774>Two heavy weights battle it out>Only get 75% of a chapter for their fight>Two retarded nobodies no one cares about>Get 2-3 chapters for their fightwhy is it like this?
>>288981989Is this a TRAGEDY?
>>288983667I think they've got more traction now than before, they might've even been absent by the time Ryuki vs. Koga happened.
>>288983798Slur for users of the Niko style, pioneered by Waka the Niko killer
>>288981774Kengan Omega is kinda retarded. The entire Kengan association has fights to determine business deals and lots of scheming to get themselves ahead, but now it's just turning into a baki underground arena thing where everyone just wants to see strong guys fight.
>>288982016Does Okubo have brain damage now?
>>288982195>...I see that all makes sense... Wait, but does it!!?Kengan Omega
>>288984131Just a sexond personality to converse with.
>>288981893Okubo won here in my heart. The rest of the fight didn't happen.
elbow
>>288982089One more page after this. You missed a page from this chapter
>>288982423Wasn't he the first one to make anyone go limp? Maybe he hates going limp now.
How different is Ashura manga from the Anime? Aside from the hideous 3D.
I can't find translated volume 20 extras. Does anybody have them or do I just post google versions?
>>288984097Are you upset about Koga Vs. Lihito?
>>288981825Oh no, it's spreading.
>>288982109I feel smooth as a stone.After getting rid of my excess thinking and breathing, all I lost is my non retardation.I've lost the brainpower of a non retard, but that's no problem at all.Now that I've dropped to the lowest IQ possible, I can overtake my Kengan enjoyment speed from my non retard days with minimal effort.If I posted like I meant it, not even comikek paypigs could keep up with me.
>>288984097>retarded nobodies>Sekibayashi
>>288982109Foreshadowing~
>>288984492wasn't referring to this chapter, Sekibayashi is great>>288984358I can't find the chapter, but that fucking new black guy with the braids was the most boring shit ever
>>288981881Nah, tbf Seki being a tank that can take absurd levels of punishment is something that was set back when Daro's art was still unrecognizable from modern Kengan.
>>288981907I fucking hate how every series in existence makes fun of the sleeper hold, it's less than 7 seconds for your brain to shut down if you get into one, even less if you're in the middle of a fight and your heart is pounding like crazySame shit when someone gets a gorillion tons kick straight in their temple as if they wouldnt just die at the spot
>>288984492>>288984358This fight was a snoozefestand then in the later chapters Ryo fights Wakatsuki and it's not even a real fucking fight
>>288981942Is it even possible to leverage that?
>>288983039Lolong has elbows that can defy the course of fate and somehow counter precognition
>>288984644Kengan is getting DBZ symptom where everyone is just developing abnormally fast and outpowering everyone else and will just eventually jump the shark because it's blowing its load too soon
Hassad soon.
>>288984181He's just like "the Connector"...!!!!
Refresh my memory for a moment. Is there actual, undeniable, direct proof Fei was the "I'm the only tiger we need" cloak guy "on the move" or could Sandro still one day pull out of his ass that that one was another guy actually?
>>288984732I still can't even fucking figure out how 2 guys are stuck in the connector when he came from a single person.
>>288984020Genuinely looks like she's pulling her eyelids open so she doesn't "blink" and miss something
>>288982216This is not a bad fight.
Chapter 195 extra, google translated
>>288984732Eddie said that cloaked guy killed Long Min and that Long Min used to be his rival, and we later see the flashback where uncloaked Fei kills Long Min. Sandro is still 100% going to introduce one more lastest secretest Tiger Niko pupil to give Waka a lame limpdick runback that will still make some people basedjak though.
>>288981989Purgatory has wo-
>>288981781Am I the only one that thinks Okubo is one of the most generic and boring fighters in the series?
>>288982109fuck the naysayers this is cool
>>288984856thats kind of the point
>>288982109
>>288984467Kek
>>288984131>now
>>288982835lol nice
>>288984856His shtick was that he didn't really have a shtick. He just did MMA and MMA was his thing.Please take note of the tense used here.
>>288984845>Eddie said that cloaked guySo long as Eddie didn't see that for himself they can have been different guys and cloak guy was bullshitting. Good enough for me.
>>288982223>>288982237devastatinghow rare it is in Omega to just have 3 chs of raw choreography and no Worm shit no Niko shit
>>288984849No silly, Okubo is a Kengan fighter, if he dies Purgatory gets a loss.
>>288984953Too bad it's Okubo
>>288982109>>288984882It's not totally awful in concept, but it's literally just a bargain bin version of Spec's Apnea Rush from Baki. But Sandro doesn't fully lean into the sheer absurdity of Baki stuff, so instead of it lasting minutes, it he makes it a "realistic" eight seconds that just makes it feel gimmicky and ineffectual in comparison.It's also weird to see from Okubo whose whole thing was constant switchups, I think it'd work better for a pure striker guy. Maybe Medel?
>>288982042I think in the kengan-verse that's just not a killing move against any high-tier fighter. No-one's even worried about someone dying when Kiozan and Seki are flinging each other into the ground and it does 0 damage to either of them. It's consistent at least.
>>288985011Omega feels so less impactful than Ahsura, 350+ chapters into Omega and nothing has even come close to something like the sekibayashi vs muteba fight in Ashura.
>>288985009>it he makes it a "realistic" eight seconds that just makes it feel gimmicky and ineffectual in comparison.Problem is that fights are devoid of flow now. Some anon mentioned it above but they're literally pokemon fights. Fighting in kengan is conceptually indistinguishable from fights in a RPG and it will get much worse
>>288985085I keep saying this, the deeper we get into Omega the more it becomes like an RPG. It's really weird.
>>288981989>Okubo's deadImagine if that was true.
>>288985085He's introducing too many new chars too quickly so he has to think of a retarded gimmick for each.
>>288985131Neither of these guys is a new character.
>>288984259
>>288984856That's kinda what I like about him, when he's done well. He was done well one time.
Tons of spoilers in this thread
>>288982835Kek
>>288981912Oh come on
>>288981989>okubo is deadAstounding victory for okubo!
>>288984131He's had it ever since Agito bonked him
>>288982237"Green" anon here, I liked this fight just fine. That said, when these fights are happening outside of a tournament setting and there isn't really any stakes, it does lose something when these side-characters are beating the shit out of each other.
>>288982625I know divers do it but not to get more oxygen, it's to get rid of as much CO2 as they can.
>>288982237Thanks OP. What's the point of this fight again?
>>288982467>>288983008>I never met a single person before this fight who thought Seki was above OkuboI wouldn't say above, but I always thought that Seki was vastly underrated among the KAT fighters because of how his fighting style is literally the worst imaginable for a tournament. He beat one of the heaviest strikers in the roster, then had to go against Muteba whose entire gimmick was negating Seki's own gimmicks via lethal untankable attacks.In a randomized round 1 KAT match with no injuries, I think Seki solidly beats more people than he loses to, with obvious exceptions like Kuroki, Agito(but it would be hilarious to see if Agito would try to fight with pro wrestling), and other people you just can't face tank like Waka or Julius.Hottest KAT Seki takes:>Raian gasses out against him because he removal spammed too hard trying to LE DOMINATE, and gets humbled by him instead of Ohma this time>Rei wears himself down on his rushes and eventually slows down enough and gets grappled just like Saw, except that Seki isn't letting him go>Gaolang is a competitive match because he strikes hard enough to take Seki down, but his paper bones tendencies are a bad match against the wrecking defenseHowever, I wouldn't have said he was "above" Okubo, or at least that he outclassed him, because choking is one of the most reliable ways to put him down. And unlike Cosmo who I think he would have brute forced back then, I didn't think he would just magic himself out of a hold from someone Okubo's size like this.
>>288985274Might have been what I was thinking of.
>>288985303Furthering Alisa's moral degeneration arc.
>>288983008Don’t forget Seki's "escape" from the triangle choke. Sandro's laziness really shows during grapoling fights.
>>288985085>but they're literally pokemon fightsPokemon anime has far more strategy that is rewarded than this.
>>288982109>reading Omega
>>288985312Agreed. Seki was robbed by Muteba being magically capable kf no-selling his throws, mysteruiusly competent at ground defense thzn asspulling le deadly heart tzchnique.
>>288981907>>288981912Okubo should become drinking buddies with Leonardo
>>288985312>and other people you just can't face tank like Waka or Julius.I don't know about that. Not saying Seki would win, but seeing how well he tanked Kiozan, he could probably tank them for quite a while. Kiozan left him battered to shit but it was mostly Kiozan's heavier stuff that left him winded. I don't think even Raian could just shrug off Kiozan's kicks of raging vigour for example, or even Waka.
Everyone complimenting Sekibayashi but I still think Kiozan is really strong. He just lost because he was too angry.
>>288985312Seki is a bad matchup for Rei but Raian would just obliterate him. Seki's need to take attacks makes him extremely vulnerable to people who's attacks are too heavy to take. Gaolang would just beat him by attrition. Guys I would rank above Seki at the KAT:Ohma, Kuroki, Kanoh, Hatsumi (who has a win over him), Waka, Julius, Raian, Kiryu, Bando, Gaolang, Muteba (we saw that), Cosmo (would submit him), Saw - and yes, Okubo.
>>288983008>>288985312I'd say it would have been a close fight in KAT. Seki had hard fights and would have beat Muteba if he knew about the heart jab OHKO move. And I maintain my belief Kiozan is the #1 round 1 jobber tied with Okubo.>ReiNah, Kiozan kick knocked Seki out, Rei's bullshit punch to the chin would do the same. I like the other 2 takes though.>>288983350>think we were still in that phase of defending certain fightsThat reminds me, when did the brainrot and memes really start to take hold? I know people were still optimistic after chapter 50.>>288985507>Magically no-selling the throwsThrows have always been a jobber move in a setting where everyone can "disperse the damage" and "fall right". It took like 3 head-to-ground smashes to take out Kiozan.
>>288985507Muteba's heart jab isn't an asspull it fits with everything else we know about him. Did Seki asspull his counter to the eyepoke?
>>288986103>That reminds me, when did the brainrot and memes really start to take hold? I know people were still optimistic after chapter 50.KVP was a slow slide into meme territory but it was Eddie's death that marked the point where people started giving up on Kengan ever being good again.
>>288985312>because he removal spammed too hardFucked up how Sandro asserted through Omega that if Raian really wanted to, he could've just ripped Ohma in half
>>288986103>And I maintain my belief Kiozan is the #1 round 1 jobber tied with Okubo.I'd put Inaba (hair + footwork counters a huge number of people) and Mokichi above Kiozan but not by a lot.
>>288985959Kiozan lacked conviction, that was it and he ran into a guy who lived and breathed his fighting styleBut Kiozan did knock Seki out with a surprise kick to the face. He would have won had he not kept going after that. Kiozan is one of the few R1 losers who aren't R1 jobbers, like Mokichi he had the misfortune of fighting someone who could take it and give it back>>288986103>That reminds me, when did the brainrot and memes really start to take hold? I know people were still optimistic after chapter 50. I wanna say when Mukaku fought Shen but we still had people holding out for Willem just cuz he pointed out how weird the Worms were. After Willem died I noticed a decline in anyone trying to defend Kengan anymore
>>288986148Inaba is weird because his entire fighting style is geared around demolishing mook-level fighters but he's being made to fight in conditions utterly hostile to his training, so in that respect he did quite well to make Ohma bust out any Niko magic at all.Theoretically Inaba is the kind of man you'd want in your corner in a story like Omega where you're much more in danger of evil weirdos with knives jumping you in alleys. The problem is not only are knives a debuff in this story, but Worms keep killing themselves or going cuhrahzee in honor duels before Inaba even becomes relevant.>>288986174I think it's fair to say Omega became a "party" with Eddie's death, but also Willem stacking all those jobber flags on himself was the death knell for having ANY hope, ever. The arc we're coming up on is the midway point of Omega being a paid shitpost, but also arguably the most intense part
>>288981800Its kinda surprising that all the fighters still have perfect teeth after all the punches to the face.
>>288981970>slammed neck firstuh wouldnt this make a guy permanently paralyzed?
>>288986332He went limp in the neck
>>288982041I dont know a thing about fighting, but wouldnt palm strikes kinda makes your wrist prone to getting dislocated?
>>288984890I like how you didn't even need to edit the text on the left and it still fits.
>>288982109>kengan Wednesday reading technique
>>288981881Seki is probably the toughest guy in the manga, and Okubo is a world heavyweight champ that just got stat checked by one of the strongest people to ever live.
>>288981966Koga is the one thinking that.
>>288981907>>288981912Okubo got cheated here.
>>288986607The fuck is a Koga?!
>>288984856okubo is carried by his asura fight being a really good display of just being a really solid fighter in both power technique and adaptabilityhe was, as the unemployed south americans in their early 20s say, "beast"
>>288982096>>288982102>>288982109>>288982122This is basically Sandrovich just admitting that he doesn't like Okubo.
>>288985143Again, I'm talking about omega in general
>>288986103Kiozan and Okubo were head and shoulders above the other R1 losers, yeah.
>>288981847>chris griffin would later recall...
>>288981854i traced that from seki
>>288986607You might think so, but Sandro loves switching thinkers mid think. They just share the same thoughts.
>>288986135These guys canonically shatter concrete with their punches. They definitely could butcher one another if they really wanted to. Kuroki poked holes in steel plating, that he didn't just gut everyone that fought him was charity.
>>288986259The Kengan Association has a very generous dental plan
>>288981893>>288981907>>288981912Choke holds and Sleeper holds are actually another form of self-hexing, it makes the user think they've already won before the opponent officially goes down which in turn grants said opponent just enough stamina, oxygen and power to break out of the choke hold and suffer zero damage from itSeki messes up here >>288981989 by trying to put Okubo down using the powers gifted by the self-hex instead of trying to get out of triangle choke similar to how Koga used his imperfect indestructible to get out of Silva's sleeper hold, not trying to put Silva down in the process. Seki takes no damage from this but it prolongs the battle instead of allowing Seki to break free and bumrush Okubo with an automatic KO win combo
>>288982467He was fully cemented as a joke character when he came out dressed like a clown, this fight is a huge seriousness upscale for him.
>>288982109SHEN NO WAZA!
>>288982109>change your breathing to make yourself retardedgoda tier foreskinning
>>288986806I lost a tooth, it's funny how it doesn't hurt as much as getting you nose punched.
>>288986806he looks like a dracula villain
>>288986800I stil remember people coping Julius holding back a racecar was an outlier for dramatic effect
>>288983008I’ve always felt like Seki was near the top of the verse. He fights like an entertainer and still keeps up with top killers like Muteba. If Seki was fighting off stage in a life or death situation he would be a force of nature. Okubo in contrast always felt like he was meant to represent the wall between pro and underground fighting. He’s the strongest pro fighter but he does so with high difficulty and when he enters the underground scene he’s only just barely top class.
>>288982871Anon...
>>288984813Gotta drink big to get big.
>>288986998Xia bro, do you got a .zip of all your pics?
>>288986332Just like how wounds heal as quickly or as slowly as the plot (read: Sandro) demands, so too do injuries happen or don't happen as the plot demands.
>>288986995In a world where Naidan, Lu Tian, Eddie and Fei don't exist I would be open to that argument. I just can't entertain it for a character that Ohma defeated with only the Advance and little else. And that's not even counting who's going to finally "fight" near the end of the Inside saga
>>288981978There's no clever decision-making involved on the part of the fighter when trying to get out of a conundrum. It's basically no different than the usual "lol didn't hurt!!!" bullshit that plagues Sandro's writing, only this time it's "lol didn't work on me!".
>>288986332Being a righteous Kenganvenger gives you regeneration powers, and by "regeneration powers" I mean free consultations with Hanafusa which were denied to Yumi
>>288982016>striking versus grapplingOminous and unintentional foreshadowing of a terrible tournament to come.
>>288987030https://litter.catbox.moe/w2ojwvv1bunjz476.zip
>>288987181I'm gonna.. I'M GONNA TRHOOOOOOOW
>>288987193Sick
>>288986749I mean yeah but it just makes it worse when that tendency then slips into guys who don't need new gimmicks and have never had them before.
>>288982467>This fight also makes Seki's ability to tank everything overstay it's welcome a bit,It also introduces an absurd problem way, way later on when even Seki and his tankiness couldn't do anything against Fu Zhan in the Fortnite arc. Obviously, Sandro didn't think this through like with everything else he's done, and he only had Seki lose to hype up Fu Zhan as this terrifying monster who could get through Seki's tanky defenses. We all know Fu Zhan is just going to job to a powerful Kenganvenger anyway.
>>288987181>>288987215
>>288986375Not really, assuming you're doing it half competently and not flailing around with a floppy wrist, it's harder to injure yourself with a palm strike than it is your fist. Look at Bas Rutten for example.
>>288985839Don't worry. Wakatsuki isn't "dozens of times stronger" or "52x stronger" than the average male human, or anything.Strength doesn't matter.>*outpowers opponent anywayWHOA!?
>>288987647It really is all just numbers. "Yeah but the author established rules A, B and C pertaining to these numbers through dialogues in this page on that chapter," one might say.It doesn't matter. Our beloved genius of an author has the final say no matter what. He'll overturn these rules if he feels like doing so. Most of the time, he won't even bother trying to rationalize it. When he does try to rationalize it, his damage control explanation is so full of shit (while being so smug) that he might as well have said, "Because I said so!" and invoked the Word-of-God defense.
Glazing Seki this hard is wild remembering that again, a very early series Ohma just had to pull out the Advance to win.This is, indirectly, a Raian upscale.
>>288987731Ohma got Seki with a trick but walked away from that fight almost crippled while Seki was totally unharmed.
>>288987717Hey, appeal to author bias is cheating. R1 Ohma would have beaten Kuroki since the main character obviously cant lose that early under that logic.>>288987731Seki was tanking the Advance better than Raian was, he just got taken out with the neck thing. Rematch straight after or any time before the KAT and Seki takes it no problem.
>>288982096This is the dumbest power up in Omega until the last arc. Sandro doesn't know how to make everyone stronger.
>>288982195This is just gibberish
>>288987836I'm saying the only thing that matters is what the author feels like doing. He has no problem contradicting himself even after only one chapter has passed. >using an example from AsuraPlease. The Sandro we have in Omega (whether it's the latest Omega of chapter 359 or the Omega of today's 3 storytime chapters) is nothing like the Sandro of Asura. They might as well be two different people.
>>288987853Funny thing is, I doubt Sandro even remembers he gave Okubo this power up. Will we see Okubo using this and mastering it later in the Fortnite arc? Or will Sandro forget about this the way he forgot about Toa's semi-Niko style counter system and didn't use it at all for any of Toa's other fights?
>>288981818>>288981825>>288981830>>288981839>>288981847this is what i like about okubo because his style is so grounded and without gimmicks, the flow of his fights are always great
>almost 7 hours into the thread and we're not even at 300 posts yetThat bad, huh?
>>288988068Everyone is watching the Gu Rituals at Evo.
>>288988106I like to pretend I'm Lolong and monologue to an imaginary Terashi next to me while crossing my arms and occasionally shutting my eyes or shaking my head.
>>288988106Haven't watched FGC tourneys in years because of how sanitized and corporatized they've become, especially Evo, which is basically>nofunallowed.jpgin videogame tournament form these days.Anyway, Kengan Omega.
>>288981961>>288981970FUCK I LOVE SEKIBAYASHI
Blazblue just ended exactly how Berserker Bowl did lmao.
>>288988851>comparing the goat fenrich to whoga
>>288981847>it's fine, he failed to give me any help in getting fit and just uses me as a dancing freak for wrestling
>>288981854This is what footfags actually think would happen
>>288986375a straight fist is actually more prone to that. With a fist, at the wrong angle, your wrist could buckle (easy); while in an open palm, flexion is at max so you're only breaking because you've shredded your joints (hard).
>>288982089>>288984268
>>288984291Obviously way more plot points
>>288984291Rin and Medicine man do not exist in the anime for starters. Worms? Never heard of'em. "Evil is on the move"? What're you babblin' about? And Ohma stays dead
>>288981933>Move is called powerbomb>>288981945>Move is now called dooooosh???? Make it make sense
>>288981989EXIT OKUBO o7
>>288982050STRIKE! STRIKE! STRIKE! STRIKE! DEFEND! DEFEND! DEFEND! DEFEND!
>>288982069?koga is trying to huisheng me, the reader
>>288982102hunhgggggg *pisses*
>>288982109A beast like me never even started thinking
>>288982164>This is just a guess but it looked like okubo was trying to kill himself for the victory
>>288982185Alisa culo
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>>288981989
>>288982109>guy's strong point is fighting intelligently, swapping style to counter the enemy>power up is turning braindead
>>288989839Okubo shoukd have stuck to mixing up Seki. Maybe even try a different choke.
>>288990053The first choke literally worked and Okubo would have won if he'd landed slightly better, he really didn't need to use a meme technique lmao.
>>288988851>>288989001Poor Fenrich. He keeps getting 2nd place at Evo.
HELLOOOOO?WHERE IS EVERYBODY????IS NOBODY HERE?
the art feels ridiculously off in all panels of this fight, it feels like Daro's test run to see if he could fully AIgen a fight sequence
you were awesome, human being
>>288987773>>288987836Nothing either of you said was wrong, I'm just saying that Seki was facing a much rustier Ohma than Raian was. Also if we're comparing durability, Raian also slept off his KO no problem and Ohma certainly wasn't hurt badly enough not to compete in KAT.
>>288982223yeah thats cool. god damn it.
>>288984467bravo
>>288985303that ohma looks like it was drawn by jiro matsumoto
>8 posts in 2 hours
>>288990273Sitting next to Kazuo during these fights must be awful. Nothing but yelling over at the basic shit each fighter does like it's next level, foaming at the mouth and nearly fainting. An incredibly annoying hype-man It's just Kaneda and Sawada fighting each other, it's nothing especially entertaining man
>>288991384It's "over", we're just collating all the "combat data" until the "timing" is "right" for the next huisheng
>>288991384This is the first thread since the start I haven't posted in. This entire fight could have been offscreened.
>>288982102IVEHITMYBOILINGPOINT
>>288990273>all of those facesMan...
>>288982195>Okubo getting gaslighted by the manga itselfThe war rages on...
>>288984131This is secretly a prequel fight, right after this he decides to go to the KvP tournament dressed as a clown.
>>288986110>Did Seki asspull his counter to the eyepoke?No, because eye pokes are a thing in pro-wrestling. Just like that blood puke he did at the end of the fight is actually called an "asian mist".>Muteba's heart jab isn't an asspull it fits with everything else we know about him.A mercenary from the old french colonies knowing an ancient chinese bare-handed assassination technique is completely retarded.
>>288986800Total powerscaler death.
>>288982102Jack?>>288991384We routinely has multiple dumps in 1 thread during Ashura, threads being slow just means there isn't anything retarded/memeable enough to justify every anon wanting to get a reply in, and that there hasn't been any spergouts.
Just looking ahead, it's going to be a mixed bag. Obviously, don't click since this is all going to spoil a ton.198-200 is just a whole lot of empty fearmongering about the Inside from Sandro. Nothing happens here. A complete time waster, all made the worse thanks to the rampant AIslop used to draw the Inside. I might as well skip tomorrow's dump.201-203 is more hyping up and mystifying the Inside, alongside pointless jobber fights.204-206 has meme moments like "NOT HAPPENING I'M DYING NOW" and the art being so bad that a lot of us thought that there were two Gaoh Mukakus207-209 is good largely, thanks to fleshing out the Gaoh Mukaku backstory and tying together Real Niko and Tiger Niko's histories. But I'm a point where I've stopped caring about Kengan's overarching plot since Sandro's revisionism and improv makes it hard to care. But I do remember being engaged by these chapters back when they first came out.BTW, chapter 215 marks the start of the Shen v. Mukaku fight. And chapter 216 is THAT moment. Yes. THAT moment.
>>288990273Me when I see a high level exchange.
>>288981989Don't know bros. I think these techniques might be more dangerous than Ryuki's
>>288987962They're quite literally the same person.
>>288992532>204-206Pizza time?
>>288992532>the art being so bad that a lot of us thought that there were two Gaoh MukakusImagine explaining this to an entirely uninitiated person.>"yeah, so... the plot features an illuminati martial arts cult that kills and replaces people with expertly plastic surgeried imposters to infiltrate">"has this ever happened to a character? Umm, no. Well, there was the time we thought that the deuteragonist was the yandere stalker of the old MC who had mindbroken himself and gotten plastic surgery to look like his old dead crush and made up a martial art on vibes >"Well no, that wasn't the case... oh right, there was the time that the art got so bad because the artist had just started using AI for everything that people suspected that a character who showed up in the same overall area but looked slightly different and acted much different was a case of doppelgangers, but actually the art was just that bad."
>>288992663Every single actual Worm impostor has been a tiny side character.1. Nogi's secretary2. That creepy fighter who fought in Nitoku's debut3. That Kengan Association examiner who later fought Koga in the tunnels in chapter 49It's like Sandro is too afraid of actually having something consequential happen by having this shit affect actually important characters. Kiryuki would have been an AMAZING revelation for the reasons you explained.Anyway, trying to explain Kengan Omega to an uninitiated person should count as torture under the Geneva Conventions for how much it'll melt their brains.
>>288992769>It's like Sandro is too afraid of actually having something consequential happen by having this shit affect actually important characters.Remember that the targets of Worm impersonators always get killed before being replaced except somehow, for some fucking reason, that useless secretary. And then the hack had the gall to write some bullshit about it being safer, when it fact leaving her alive is precisely what lead to the discovery and alert, leading to the anti-Worm coalition.
>>288984890I'd say Ashura was more like a moderate intake of fame and money.
>>288992769He's so psychotically attached to his most irrelevant minor side characters that he couldn't bear to kill off literally anyone for stakes, even random CEOs or B-lister fighters from the boat in Ashura or something. EVERY case of a Worm imposter was a character where we never actually met the original, so nobody we knew technically died. Except as the other anon said, the secretary, which JUST SO HAPPENED to be the one single case where they didn't kill the person conveniently. More made up "good guys" have died in this series than real ones, when you place "the tragedy" up against Rikuto and Yasunaga. Him making up characters to claim died offscreen like that is even funnier for those cases, because Metsudo had ten million irrelevant yet named body guards and he couldn't even bring himself to have written down that Yumi had killed the bald guy who punched Hassad or something.
>>288981907>>288981912It's a cool scene, but honestly, grappling is so fucking dogshit in Kengan. Feels like it fails 90% of the time. Sleepers holds and chokes especially.>>288982096>oxygenMy brain just activated and started expecting a Dempsey Roll here.>>288982109Wow, so he is a legend on par with Shen. He can also turn his brain off.>>288982225It's just martial magic.>>288982237To be honest, Seki fundamentally just has another version of the "lol didn't hurt" technique, but he's a lot more expressive and fun than the retardedly stoic Niko users and Ryuki so I give him a pass.
>>288993001Don't spoil things for "green" readers, anon.
>>288988851Blazblue?
>>288993068I'm also "green". I don't think there's a single new person reading this that hasn't already seen the Shen turning himself retarded page.
>>288986375To clarify as well as the other two, you're not aiming to impact with the main palm despite the name. You want to strike with the bony part at the bottom.
>>288990273Guys...what if Kazzy is the worm imposter?It would explain his character regression.
>>288993231>all the worm impostor had to base his personality on was the darkweb footage from the first kengan tournament I can see it happening, when'd he get replaced, when Ohma came back?
>>288993068>>288993079Can you really "spoil" that "nothing will happen"?
>>288993345Yes.
>>288993250Probably because that's when he dropped Koga without a second thought and latched onto Ohma, ostensibly because they were so close but really because they're after Ohma.Luohan was behind this of course.
>>288981907>>288981912Are sleeper holds the knives of the grappler moveset?
>>288982096PUMP MORE OXYGEN INTO YOUR VEINS
>>288992874How the fuck did he even bring himself to kill the old man, one of his most beloved, surely? I know it was a tragedy like no other, but still.
GREENIES, DON'T CLICK!
>>288994995>unprompted Luohan postingFor what purpose
>>288995037I'm bored and want to have some fun with fellow wall scalers.
>>288995059Do you think that if he shaved his mustache, people would treat him nicely?
>>288995644>Luohan shaves his stache because facial hair is itchy for him>everyone accuses him of shameful behavior in trying to impersonate Ohma
>>288984770So are we just fucking done spoilering shit now? Fucking behave you apes.
>>288993069The fighting game. Talking about Evo.
>>288988851I saw it coming when the Jin that got completely washed by the Susanooh and looked completely clueless on how to deal with him in WF got into GFThe alternative would have been Carl vs Susanooh in GF but that would have been Cancer vs AIDS so frankly that was the better outcome
>>288997224>this was the better outcome*Also I want to add that for a second we almost had a game but the retard just completely threw the round for no reason at the end
>>288997224He was exhausted. He needed all his mental energies to survive Carl and in the end he was too tired for the gorilla Susanoo.
>>288997392At the end I'm just happy to see BB at a major again, I see those thirty second long combos and go "ah, the good old days"Also 10 years to add Trinity lmao
>>288997792Are there any good fighting games?
>>288997917No
>>288997956It would be nice if the FGC didn't keep self sabotaging like how they did with Project L.
>>288997917Uni2 is okay but it suffers from setplay and defense being god tier
>>288999898>20gb
>>288986682I am an unemployed south american in my mid 20s and I never used the slang "beast".
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>>288982237Thank you for posting!
>>289001344fuck off retard
>>289000096You reckon Akoya see Robocop as his own personal batman and is a superfan or would he try to waste him in second 2 cause hurr durr evil?
>>289001597
>>289001344fuck on genius
>>289001752you don't need to necrobump these threads
>>289001658The latter because Robocop shows mercy. Hell Akoya would probably hate 99% of the Punisher incarnations including MAX for being too soft. Dude is cracked
>>289001986gb2r
>>289002214It's not like Akoya himself is 100% in on the justice thing. A lot of the times when he goes "Muh justice, you're evil, I will kill you" it's just him stimming. He would probably watch/read all that stuff but whenever his CEO girl would walk into a room at moments when the characters on screen aren't blasting crooks into red paste he'd mutter >Foolish!or>Nonsense!or>I would've killed them on the spot!
>>288997917>good>fighting gamePick one
>>289001986
>>288993747He can kill off Erioh because killing him off set a chain reaction that killed off Eddie, Howard and HayamiIf one "Good guy" died than 10 more Villains have to follow right behind them
>>289003401I'm willing to be that if you got a candid conversation out of him he'd tell you that he massively regrets killing off Erioh
>>289003950>tfw no evil kengan women
I'm a legend
>>289004446I'm on par with the legends.
Mr Penis
when is she making a cameo?
>>289006199When does Blue Ursus take place in the Kenganverse anyhow
>>289006493Someone posted a chart a few threads ago I think.
>>289006493I only have this old one
>>289008510yeah that's the chart
>>288999898Seems like motionslop but I'll look more into the chargeslut
