Why is everyone freaking out about this chapter bro just got some rest and now is fully charged
>>288989681Guts used the Force and just flexed his arms to break his shackles....
>>288989681WASPs think anything less than pulling yourself up by your bootstraps is the same as cheating
>>288989681Because he's reached a new level
>>288989681Guts breaking some chains is not even in the top 5 when it comes to his displays of strength in the series.
>>288989681Berserk ended in 2021
>>288989681>everyone>only like 6 people gave a shit and the rest were shitposters
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>reading fanfictionfor what purpose?
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>>288989681Guts looks like he's about to pull this scene the next time he fights.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mhadN-8oZE
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>>288991374"That's my secret... I am always Berserk"
>>288991386"Berserk... Guts Berserk"
>>288991484"Thank you, Berserk"
>>288991380h-hot
>>288991347https://youtu.be/NkYYYew8CUI
Coming out of the “chamber” and destroying his “shackle” is clearly meant to be an alogy for accepting his bisexual nature.
>>288991347>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxkezvGwI20YOU WA SHOCK!
>>288991365masochism.
>>288989681How did he get from the elf island to the kushans?
When will Hokuto no Guts finally unlock his Muso Tensei?
The dialouge is vague, so it's difficult to understand what exactly happened to Guts. Did he just learn he was always in an interstice? Did he become an interstical being due to sheer will by surviving his birth or by the weird way he was born? Is something else or just a shonen power-up? I have no fucking idea
>>288991899I guess we'll have to wait and see in the next chapter. This feels like something Miura would've handled a lot better.
This feels like something Miura would never write or even consider.
>>288991963I agree but if this was something he told the new guy leading the series now, I imagine it was quite different in his mind compared to what we got
Guts' actual powerup twas achieved through numerous instances of astral sex with Schierke.In this episode, he just pressed the skill unlock button—he had already accumulated the skill points by the time he arrived on the island.Once you understand this, the story becomes much clearer.
>>288992085>please care about my sex fetish
>>288991899He bridged the connection with the half of him that exists in the spirit realm due to his corpse birth, basically unblocking his chakras
>>288991899>Did he become an interstical being due to sheer will by surviving his birth or by the weird way he was born?It's not one or the other. Since Guts was not meant to exist then the only reason he survived even his first moments outside his mother's womb was through his will to live. Guts reaffirmed that will to live through regressing to that moment. Since Guts has had to fight to exist his entire life he was never preordained to the predefined, mundane lives at the mercy of greater cosmic forces.Of course mages exist who are people who are attuned to the interstice and they are also constrained by the tide of fate because greater forces use them too. Guts' nature is adrift further than that since he hasn't bumped up against hard defined limits. He can go as far as he dares, albeit he's needed huge amounts of assistance to survive even until now from how much damage he's accumulated from physical and spiritual wounds. Guts is appreciating the miracle of him being able to push on from here via Flora's benevolent intervention.
>>288989681Guts has no dick.
>>288991725>>288991837We’re back, boyos.https://youtu.be/4jcVPRKILEk?si=gjc28tjYE3yOC29X
>>288989681funny how they still suck at drawing guts
>>288991728>>288993017That's why he has yaoi seme proportions now.
>>288991347They're drawing puck in his cute plump Femboy body, it means this shit is serious
I just realized that it's not that his vision is no longer blurry, he can now see in a total darkness>>288991899If I remember correctly the "stuff" that other half of Guts was suspended in and connected to was what all the souls of the dead morph into and what flows at blood through the heart that is the Idea of Evil. Now this half has descended into his body and importantly it seems that it still has a string of connection to the soul soup, so now guts has a line to all that power. I don't remember if the attributes of that power were explored but it's connected to how Griffith became Femto before obtaining a body.
What's the black goo
I have a feeling some very crazy shit is about to go down. Mori said Miura thought this volume and the next one are super important
>>288989681HIs anatomy looks way off.
>>288993703Thematically this is impregnation imagery specific to Guts own conception. The black goo being the masculine input joining with the mother role that Flora fulfills, as we see Guts cradled before her own womb. The black goo is from a source we do not see, just as Guts' own paternity remains mysterious. Presumably the ritual did require two Daimons, or greater spirits, while we only saw Flora.
>>288991918>I guess we'll have to wait and see in the next chapter.same shit was said last chapter
>>288991347I can break these cuffs
Do women this Guts is hot?
>>288991347>No Beast of Darkness>No Reflection on his past besides a basic Slideshow of his most important moments>Vague posting from Flora>No exploration of his mind like we did with Casca>just ONE CHAPTER for "healing"How can anyone say this is in any way satisfying?This is worse than fan-fiction, Guts was at his lowest and NOTHING was done with it, he essentially off-screened his healing process.
>>288989681This chapter went against everything Berserk stands for. No, I won't elaborate on that.
>>288994265If anything at all was done with it, people would still be complaining about fanfiction. There's nothing that will satisfy.
>>288991365So far it’s still better than no ending
>>288994265Guts' whole journey has been enduring the misery of existence and childhood trauma. He's literally journeyed through Hell and back. There's no important revelations from when he was 10 that would provide further insight.Now he realizes the superhuman strength he's always had within him, enough to resist the great Devils of the world and wield the unwieldable.You were never going to be satisfied. You don't want to be satisfied. You want to wallow in misery forever."Wah, wah, why isn't Muira alive to stretch the tomb arc into 12 chapters over 6 years, with numerous asides to see how the lolis are doing".
>>288994320This. I'm still chuffed about Vagabond.
>yfw this is going to be the ending
Muira lost the thread of his own fucking narrative, we were lucky to get 3 chapters a year, and one of them would be Isidro flipping loli skirts.He's missed, but his Loli Addiction really left him unfit to bring this whole grand saga to a close.
>>288994430I actually hope it is just to watch the seethe.
>>288994453You ought to be 18 to post here.
>>288994265The beast is still tied to Guts' will and he had given up on even fighting. It will get its chance when the empowered Guts comes up short again despite his increased capacities.People who don't understand that Guts' sad sack state wasn't the place to face the beast of darkness are mad for no reason that it didn't come up here.
Now we get 3 chapters a year that advance the plot a bit and guys like >>288994265 are "Woah, WHOAH, this pace is too breakneck, it's like we are in an out of control wagon racing towards the endpoint!"Seriously.This thing needs to progress towards and ending, go enjoy Wan Piss if you want something to follow til you a 60 yrs old.
>>288994553Strange thing to say considering Berserk is almost 10 years older than One Piece lol
>>288994364>Now he realizes the superhuman strength he's always had within himThis type of shit alone, supernatural or not, would set someone free. It broke me out of hating myself as a child. That and learning I was disabled.>Now he realizes the superhuman strength he's always had within him, enough to resist the great Devils of the world and wield the unwieldable.Realizing you can do anything about your problems would set you free too.
>>288994450>Isidro flipping loli skirtsand that's a good thing
>>288994553Lmao, I don't want a 10 chapter Healing journey i simply wanted something more substantial than NOTHING, Guts was simply shown bits of his past, told he was special and Viola, he's good as new>>288994504It's still strange that at his lowest and in his mind, the one thing that was built up as his actual inner demon didn't even show up, let alone say or do anything.>>288994309Perhaps, i even understand that Mori is afraid to change or do anything new, but this is just pathetic.>>288994364Lmao have you read my post, my issue is not the fact that Guts a power-up right now, that was obviously the point of the Tomb, but there was no Journey to getting that strength, Regardless of how much IRL time this would take they still should've made this more interesting than just doing nothing
>>288994450U talk as if miura never had that inclination in him since before the fck Lost Childrens arc, he wasn't addicted to loli moron nor was that the reason this series suffered a decline, no manga series can go on for 30+ years and not have a negative impact somewhere, be that his art, focus, writing, the worst characters in the later arcs or even Miura's health
>>288994877I do wonder if people would still love Berserk if the art got significantly worse, but the Schedule became more frequent and the writing was still on the same level?
>>288994992Real fans would.
I want to live for myself because of these chapters.
>>288994364>Now he realizes the superhuman strength he's always had within himAnd you are trying to suggest he wasn't using it because he just didn't know? Is this your actual defence? Lmao>You were never going to be satisfiedI would to be more than satisfied, if the original creator didn't die and finished the work in the same superb quality he always produced. I would also be mildly satisfied, if someone talented took over the work and delivered a quality continuation. But this continuation is an abomination that taints the legacy of one of my favourite manga. And you were always gonna defend it no matter how shit it is. You want to consume any slop thrown at you under popular brands and not ask any questions, ever
>>288994430Just before the eclipse Griffith faced the prospect of being an invalid orbiting the romantically charged couple of Guts and Casca (the cuck chair) and he found killing everyone preferable to living that humiliation. So the ideal ending for Griffith is for him to have locked-in syndrome unable to do anything but live that exact life and prefer to give up everything to Moonchild to exist full time than experience that.
>>288995076NTA. I think his powers were always active to a degree and he didn't realize it.
>>288989681It's kino
>>288990899>He's still postingYo meme ain't getting over lil bro
Gaga have been drawing Griffith, Farnese and Puck better than Miura has since chapter 280
>>288994265>just ONE CHAPTER for "healing"It's not just the lack of chapters that is the problem. It's the total lack of content in them. Each chapter could be losslessly compressed into 3-4 pages or 2 simple sentences
>>288995227This is my favorite Moriserk/Gagaserk Farnese
>>288995163Then why has nobody told him that until now, if he could become so much more powerful with no consequences just by "realizing" the fact that's always been known?
>>288989681Imagine wasting an entire fucking chapter with Guts just standing there aura farming while a bunch of randoms yap "Oh my god, he...! He did this! And that?! This Guy...!! Is THAT guy?!". Mori is shitting in Miura's face.
>>288995249Also this one
I can only assume that Floras spirit had healed the astral scar Slan gave him
Wait, was he entombed and supposed to die/be dead?
>>288995318She's finally drawn right
>>288995318For me? It's
>>288995340Love my waifu
>>288995218>He's still seething at himIt's doing it's purpose
>>288995340Of all the characters, the one Studio Gaga has the best handle on has to be Daiba>>288995332No. Daiba is freaking out at the start because he's worried Guts may have died.
>>288995382>>288995364>>288995340>>288995318I think it's the eyes. They're drawer softer and more delicate, which gives a sexy look
>>288995393They did a great Beast of Darkness as well
So we're posting waifus now
>>288995544Miss "Won't Be Appearing in This Story Anymore"
I miss her bros...
>>288991360Wonder what Puck means or knows about Guts power up?
>>288994320not really
>>288991306>>288991315>>288991334>>288991356Is the Superman body supposed to be part of his power up, or is the Studio Gaga just bad at anatomy? Guts has been a beefcake before but holy shit his head is tiny and his arms and shoulders are huge. It looks weird.Also they’re consistently drawing his pupil too small. For reference, here’s the style of Guts I think they were aiming for
>>288995544that's a fish
>>288995658>Is the Superman body supposed to be part of his power up, or is the Studio Gaga just bad at anatomyHe's be drawn yoked before, even in his defeated state>Here's that defeated and malnourished guy I was telling you about
>>288995704The prettiest fish in the sea
>>288991323He's doing the Jesus move, next he will destroy death or something.
>>288991365The ending is going to be the canon ending, just with a different lead in.
>>288995773>>288995658He's definitely a bit more yoked in the continuation
>>288991356He's going to remove his shirt in the next chapter and reveal the astral scar is gone.
>>288995305>Guts just standing there aura farming while a bunch of randoms yap "Oh my god, he...! He did this! And that?! This Guy...!! Is THAT guy?!".Yeah.....let's go ahead and pretend that Muira didn't do this EXACT THING like a hundred fucking times.
>>288994450Miura should have gone full on Army of Darkness. At least he had the right idea with a happy ending for the story.Mori doesn't have what it takes.
>>288995950Yeah but I was able to binge read the series then so I didn't notice, therefore it doesn't count and this sucks ass
>>288994450Flipping loli skirts is a celebration of life, very fitting to the themes.
>>288995305Aura farming and Guts glazing is a keen part of Berserk
>>288995305There's also another I CBA finding in GA that's basically just "Uwahh??" from the BotH when they see Guts in action lmao
>>288989681Retards think he got stronger while its the stupa who just let him outside
>>288994992The art was kinda the main thing Berserk had so I'd say no
>>288995950>Muira didn't do this EXACT THING like a hundred fucking times.No he didn't. He's not some hack who needs to deliberately waste pages on nothing meaningful. You could complain about "filler" arcs and characters, but that still counts as something rather than pages of Guts standing from different angles or of generic stock reactions to him
>>288991899>due to sheer will by surviving his birth or by the weird way he was bornBoth because the weird way he was born was only possible because his will was stronger than the will of the collective consciousness. Sloan said humans do that from time to time and thats why the future the god hand sees isn't set in stone and I think its implied a "main timeline" had him dead but that didnt come to pass
>>288994265Hey newfag. You clearly are new to Berserk.>>No Reflection on his past besides a basic Slideshow of his most important momentsBased. Just proves Miura told the new Mangaka about the story and the new guy is trying to do what Miura told him and adding as little as possible as to not deviate>>Vague posting from FloraThats Berserk 101 since chapter 1>>No exploration of his mind like we did with CascaWe already know everything there is to know about Guts and how he sees the world. The only thing left was for him to see himself>>just ONE CHAPTER for "healing"Based. No more boat arcs, no more shitshows like Elf Island. No fillers, just what is important to end the story
>>288996328>>288996354That's two pages from two seperate chapters (even sperate arcs) where there's an actual interaction between the characters and something even happens like the squad deciding to head to the church. Now count the pages from the new chapter>>288991323>>288991334>>288991340>>288991347>>288991356>>288991360>>288991368That's 13 pages wasted on pure glazing
>>288994824>told he was special and Viola, he's good as newCrongrats, you just learned how Psychology works. As retarded as it is, it works. People are retarded and need to be told they are retarded but good retards. You are retarded anon. Now give me $300 for the appointment>his actual inner demon didn't even show upBecause his inner demon had nothing to do with what is going on. Actually it was in the opposite spectrum of the situations warranting the summoning of the beast.
>>288994877There is a difference between smoking a joint now and then and just leaving school and fucking up on your job to chase weed and highs
>>288995658His most muscular was right after fighting Slann, right here you can see his neck being massive, thick, bigger than his head. This chapter just draws his shoulders and bicep weird, which is funny because the very first drawing of Guts being tortured in the first chapter, Miura also drew his biceps and shoulders weird
Berserk armor "powerup" is just forcing Guts to use 100% of what his body is already cappable of doing. My guess is his new powerup is being able to do it without the armor. Kinda of going back to this page >>288995861
>>288997075Guts neck being thicker than his head.
>>288997075One of the first drawing of Guts published, in which his anatomy is weird just like the new chapter.
>>288990852Of confidence and power
>>288996788>pages wasted You can't seriously compare page wasting between Mori and Miura. Make your fucking mind. Is it going too fast or is it wasting too many pages?Besides, it has to waste pages this chapter. Its thematically appropriate because of whats going on. John Berserk was literally reborn
>Berserk was never good
>>288996890>Crongrats, you just learned how Psychology works.Your understanding of psychology is on the same level as your understanding of the manga and your reading comprehension in general. And that is the level of an 8 year old>People are retarded and need to be told they are retardedGuts has always been magically special but needed to be told that in order for the magic to work? It could have been done hundreds of times before this chapter, if it was actually so>Because his inner demon had nothing to do with what is going onSuprisingly so. Despite him consistently taking over Guts in much less desperate situations than his fight with Griffith and talking to Guts in much less solitary moments of self-reflection than in the fucking stupa. Almost like Gaga/Mori have no idea what to do with him
>>288989681Berserk has gone wrong the moment he stopped being a lonewolf and had a team of women and loli
>>288995588Just like Jill and Theresia.
>>288996890>Everything is a therapy sessionAhh a millennial writer.
>>288991894This had already ended when Berserk first started in 1989. From 1983 to 1988 I might say, 5 years, 5!
>>288997223>You can't seriously compare page wasting between Mori and Miura.Why? If he's decided to continue the work in the same format so what's wrong with comparing them?>Is it going too fast or is it wasting too many pagesIt skips/speedruns the events which require more detail and elaboration, while wasting pages on literal filler. That's why the chapters feel so barren. Is this such hard of a concept to understand? Talented authors focus on hard to produce engaging elements, shitty hacks focus on easy to produce pointless filler>it has to waste pages this chapterWhat about every chapter before that?
>>288996942and how does this comparison apply to Berserk exactly?
>>288990896The way he did break them makes it so, it's not muscular strength to shatter metal on your wrists, it's telekinesis.
>>288996788You seem upset
>>288994237There are probably some women who do but he's a very male-gazey character
>>288997408For sure, the story works better if he's only followed around by Casca and Puck and meets a lot of friends along the way who don't follow him around. Somehow the video games understand this concept but the manga doesn't. I guess what Miura was going for is a "new Band of the Hawk"... but that could have been revealed at the end of the story. Like they all could have coincidentally ended up at the same place at the ending in time for Griffith's surprise arrival instead of following him around the whole story.
>>288997897>male-gazeyShut the fuck up
>>288994265you have to understand, people will accept slop. just how it is.
>>288994237I know several women who only started reading Berserk because they thought Guts was hot
>>288996890>Because his inner demon had nothing to do with what is going on. Actually it was in the opposite spectrum of the situations warranting the summoning of the beast.Yet it appeared when he was in a hilarious suicidal depression in the ship's hold. Faggots can't even stay consistent within their own shitty fan fiction.
I don’t care for any more psychologizing. Miura did that plenty well. I would just like an explanation of what, with in-universe terms, happened. He “was connected” with a vague astral half. Okay, what does that mean? Do normal humans not have an astral half aside from their ethereal bodies? Why is Guts special?With Griffith, we got some more explanation. Yes, ultimately he was special because the author said so, but in terms of an in-universe explanation, we learned that he was chosen by a cabal of demons and transformed by the power of negative feelings and severed attachments into a demon himself, and then later reincarnated into a pseudo-human by another similar sacrifice. We learned all this at the time each event occurred, and then later we learned that this was tied into the world’s metaphysical paradigm of idealism in which the physical world is connected to and can be shaped by the intersecting astral and ideal realms. Though it was partially retconned, there was even the part about the Idea of Evil being the simultaneous cause and consequence of all this evil through humanity’s collective consciousness. All of this ran parallel with the psychological explanations of why Griffith did what he did.Has something similar happened with Guts? Is there some Zoroastrian dualism here where the Form of the Good chose him to counteract Griffith? Or is it something else entirely? You can say all you want that Guts overcame his Jungian shadow or any other manner of things, but how does this shit work in-universe? So far, we don’t know.There’s still another chapter in this trilogy and however many after the hiatus to prove me wrong, but I’m not very confident we’ll actually get a sensible explanation. The lack of substantial dialogue besides “wow Guts is so cool he’s special” in these chapters reminds me of the similar handwaving when all the inhabitants of elf island just disappeared after Griffith showed up.
>>288992501yo, i didnt know riki oh was based on a manga. reading it right know, shit is great
>>288998270>Why is Guts special?Because his mum died with him still in the womb, so he came to life out of death, the reverse of how things should go.
>>288994430>a meme with steven trannyverse here on /a/For fuck sake mods
>>288997092The berserker armor stabs into your bones as scaffolding to perform physical feats far beyond what human physiology can muster. It isn't just a mental amp, it's more like an exoskeleton that pumps you full of drugs while you tear yourself apart. It almost seems kind of pointless to compare Guts now to Berserker armor then because either he has an entirely different way of fighting now or he's going to use the berserker armor in a different configuration, as the elf island smiths believed it was a large difference between wearing the armor and mastering it. So Guts could conceivably be stacking everything available to him now, both berserker armor and indwelling barytes to fight in a way he hasn't yet.
>>288998428Why would that give him a huge power up now?
>>288998599Because Mori said so?
>>288994450I liked how the first post-Miura death decision was to write Isma out. Isma was indeed a symptom of Miura’s being slowly corrupted by lolifaggotry.
>>288998599Because Guts was always denying what he was up until that realization. He wanted the mundane while being far from it, like a fish wanting to walk on land instead of swimming on the ocean. Now he's no longer dying of asphyxiation. Just my guess.
>>288991340ZAP MUTHAFUCKA
The fucking dialogue is so fucking badlmao how
>>288998929Guts thought he had nothing to do with magic so he mentally blocked off the possibility of learning and applying anything but what he was taught at age 2. Now he realizes he's immersed in that world. It's the same principle applied with how pre-Fantasia humans could either see elves or not, depending on how closed minded they are. Guts closed his mind off from possibilities, but no longer.
>>288998599Cause his willpower to live from birth defied fate and add that to everything else he's been through and now he's aware of his ability to act more or something.
>>288998929Okay, so who is the astral being that Guts has reunited with through self-realization? How does that being fit into the established cosmology of Berserk? What is the source of its power? Is it an oppositional force to the Godhand? Does it have an identity at all, or is it some higher principle about the collective potential of humanity to overcome evil, realized in one person?I’m willing to give this narrative direction a shot, but it needs substantiated in a way that makes sense with what we already know. If they just try to handwave it as some “well Guts was never supposed to be born so now that he’s realized that he can do whatever he wants”, that’s gonna be boring.
>>288998270There are being vague deliberately, so the redditors can fill up the gasps with their schizo headcanons. It's funny to see how their explanations contradict each other and the manga's established lore, while they continue to circlejerk themselves. But what the new chapter states clearly is that Guts was born into the interstice and therefore is a being of the interstice just like current Griffith (all 3 statements are fundamentally wrong as can be easily proven by the original manga). And here come moricuck's copes like>that's not what it means, he was not always in the interstice just "connected" to itThere's no proof the conсept of such connection even exists let alone Guts having one since birth. And yes, Chitch is not a proofof your point, many ordinary people can see elves and did so throughout the entire manga>he was seperated from his "astral half", but now reconnected to it and therefore became strongerThat's based on nothing in the actual chapter, except for the artistic imagery of Guts and his babyself being blended. Yes, they are taking it literally. A person can't function without his "astral half" as can be seen from Schierke's astral projections sessions. We've also seen Guts astral self several times and he's there in his full selfAnd that's the most sensible ones. There are far more schizo copes
>>288989681Miura´s work really changed....It´s almost like a different person is drawing it now.
>>288989681IKUZO!
>>288998270>There’s still another chapter in this trilogy and however many after the hiatus to prove me wrongThey'll probably come back to it when Schierke rejoins the party.The next chapter is a Falconia update
This latest chapter well and truly pissed off the SK fags huh
>>288989681The funny thing is, Studio Gaga has been drawing the manga more or less since they went digital. Sure, Miura would do the outlines and specific splash panels, but Gaga are the digital guys he got to help him do the grunt with anyway
>>289000050But why though? All the revelations were in the last one, this is just a transition of taking Guts from the clam to whatever he does next time.
>>288989681The moment this chapter was released I think I seen, not speaking in hyperbole here, at least 50 "What a full night's sleep does to a mf" memes and comments.
>>288999199>he mentally blocked off the possibility of learning and applying anything but what he was taught at age 2What about the berserker armor? Doesn't that count as applying magic? Guts isn't some avid hater of magic. He compliments Schierke on her abilities. He just relies on his sword (also magical due to astral creature's blood) over any weapon>Now he realizes he's immersed in that world.He realized it clearly after the eclipse, while being haunted by fucking ghosts 24/7. Skull Knight explained to him that he now lives in the interstice. How is it diffetent from Flora telling him the same shit? That he's like that from birth makes all the difference?>pre-Fantasia humans could either see elves or not, depending on how closed minded they are. Guts closed his mind off from possibilitiesYet he could see elves since childhood. He was never closed minded or hated supernatural. He hated demons that's it
>>289000050Pics?
>>289000141He knew he was a part of it, he didn't know he was partially in it.
>>288989681he would look kino smoking a cigar here
>>288998740Isma barely even counts as a loli. Too stacked, bigger than Farnese and Casca with the way they were being drawn.Schierke yes
>>288994265kinda strange now that you mention it... the beast didn't try anything on Guts all this time?
I think a better power up would be if Flora suppresses the Beat of Darkness and forms a bond with Guts because when are we going to see Flora again in the story? Not to mention Flora was Skull Knight's Schierke essentially making her somewhat a powerful being in the Astral Realm, this would be also a great time to include some backstory on the Skull Knight.
>>289000238Guts is the beast of darkness, you retard, always has been. He was pretty much accepting his own death in the stupa, so he wasn't thinking about fucking shit up. The beast will return as his will to fight returns.
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>>289000050Pretending to enjoy slop to own the chuds
>>289000092The post I seen they were talking about how it's unrealistic that the shackle around his arm shattered instead of breaking at a single point like Miura would have done (?)
>>289000308Puck is smoking that za
>>289000377It makes sense when you consider that the shackles were jeet quality
>>289000141>How is it diffetent from Flora telling him the same shit? That he's like that from birth makes all the difference?He's been a human struggler that at several points in the manga proudly states he's human, so there's obviously been some kind of rejection of any hints of his astral side. The few times we've seen his astral form (even just 12 chapters or so ago) he doesn't seem to understand it and needs Schierkes guidance to bring him back to the real world.
>>289000374>It's slop if I say soGo back to your hugstation, cuck
>>289000417>>289000141I suppose the other way of looking at it is the Stupa removed all outside influence and he was forced to accept it. The Stupa is also pitch black when he enters it but he's able to see clearly when he wakes up from his dream. We'll probably get an explanation/exposition dump when Schierke gets a word with him.
/ourguy/ is back and needs to reject the Berserker Armour-schlop, going back to fighting as the Black Swordsman. Surely just because he's in a better headspace the armour still won't be fully controllable.
>>2890001411. Guts never had even a formal education, let alone any kind of occult instruction or sense that he had any aptitude outside martial arts. As far as he understood he only had one tool in this world and that was his sword. When his sword failed he couldn't comprehend anything else he could turn to. He just stared at it on the ground like it had betrayed him. 2. By immersed I mean 'of it' not just being inflicted by it. Through Shierke's expertise he comes to learn of elementals as this fundamental concept although he couldn't envision himself doing anything with that knowledge. Farnese became a competent mage in a few months while Guts did not try his hand at it, content that the party was divvied into their specialties. He used the enchanted berserker armor but failed to master it, had no way to go about it and has simply relied on Schierke to make it work even though they're using it wrong. Now he can start to tackle that problem along with Schierke and not just lean entirely on her. 3. I'm talking about a principle of willful ignorance here. If you can't consider something then you are blind to it. Guts is only just beginning to engage with an aspect of his reality that he previously only knew in terms of fight or flight, kill or be killed.
I’m fine with this - obviously they will delve more into what happened for all you fags hung up on “Muh explanation”.Everyone in the chapter is going “what the fuck is up with him - something is different.” That’s you; that’s the audience. But you’re too stupid to realize it.Later on someone will obviously take Guts aside and say “hey, what the hell happened?” And he’ll give you an exposition dump that you can tear apart and critique as well.Love that we’re getting new chapters.
>>288998222All the rape chapters are to get the female readership up.
>>289001588rape horse was designed with the female audience in mind
>>289001688also based mori
>>289000205People will label anything that isn't a hag loli now, that's why we can't even have some nice fanservice
>>289000417>proudly states he's human, so there's obviously been some kind of rejection of any hints of his astral sideThe one time he says this he opposes himsef against the demons who he loathes. Ganishka was impressed he survived his attack and started to question his humanity, then he looks at his brand and finds the answer to his survivability. And there's no rejection of the "astral side" as it's inherent to every living creature >he doesn't seem to understand it and needs Schierkes guidance to bring him back to the real world.What? You are completely misinterpreting the events. Guts was never "lost" as in detached his astral self and traveled the astral world like Schierke. He was consumed by the armor and Schierke helped him to regain control. His astral self was always there unseparated from him
>>289000050It pissed off any actual fan of Berserk with reading comprehension
what happened to guts' hand?
>>289001791miura obviously had isma take over the role of fanservice girl because it no longer fit casca's or farnese's characters
>HERE IS UR GUN ARM AND SWORD GUTS>heh>G-GUTS>I do not need such things anymore>B-BUT>watch
>>289000655>1.Guts isn't a retard the continuation makes him to be. Not being able to hit a god capable of bending reality to his will wouldn't send him into catatonic state. That completely assassinates his entire character. It's not the first time he encouters an enemy far beyond his reach. Hell, it's not even the first time his attacks Griffith and fails>he couldn't comprehend anything else he could turn toThe whole island of magic gurus, who were written out of the story, but who could explain how to counter Griffith abilities>By immersed I mean 'of it' not just being inflicted by itThere's some load of bullshit. You're not making any sense and being vague on purpose jsut like the continuation.>Guts did not try his hand at it, content that the party was divvied into their specialtiesThen what's the purpose of introducing all these specialist characters if Guts is supposed to be master of all trades himself? There's nothing wrong with Guts relying on his comrades it fits thematically, has already happened and is a natural progression of his character. Guts isn't a battle mage and never will be>He used the enchanted berserker armor but failed to master it, had no way to go about it and has simply relied on Schierke to make it work even though they're using it wrong. Now he can start to tackle that problem along with Schierke and not just lean entirely on her.And it was an obvious setup for his powerup, which the continuation completely ignored and instead made him "special" since birth. And needing magical abilities to master the armor is a completely baseless assumption. Every upgrade Guts receives is about his slight physical and mental inflation as Miura has put it himself. And the inborn superpower bullshit is the opposite of what he'd have done>If you can't consider something then you are blind to it. That's not how it works. Guts didn't consider elves existed before seing one. He didn't believe his eyes at first
all I wanted was a good anime adaptation of the whole thing
BRO JUST GOT A FULL 8 HOURS OF SLEEP
>>289001495> obviously they will delve more into what happened for all you fags hung up on “Muh explanation”.Yeah, just like the explanation we got for why all the magical inhabitants of Elfhelm (and Isthma, who wasn’t even from there) disappeared into the Astral Realm when the island was destroyed (even though the whole point of the Fantasia arc was that Griffith merged the Physical and Astral Realms such that magical and physical beings/places coexist on the same plane)? I really loved it when the Elf Queen took the party aside and explained in detail why that happened and why she couldn’t do anything about it. Great exposition dump from Mori and the team
>>288994992Berserk has always been about art. Its writing level is of a mediocre edgy shonenshit.
>>289001688Based Mori.
>>289003429for the first time since the eclipsegriffith is so fucked
So I was reading Golden Age as a refresh (Got all the deluxe books and re-reading Berserk for the first time). I'm not going to get into my whole speal about a certain character but I will wonder where the head canon came from. When THAT character transforms into Femto and rapes Casca, he's completely emotionless. People say it's out of jealousy, it's out of rage, but a scene before that you clearly see "HIM" sorta "lose" his humanity as he feels all his comrades deaths passing by him then he sees God and revives. Like if it's out of jealousy and rage for Guts why even have that scene, shouldn't his "last" moments be of anger on Guts? Why would Miura draw Femto just completely stone faced as he fucks the shit outta Casca. It just confuses the fuck outta me because it sounds like people make shit outta thin air.
>>289000050Not to defend SkullKnight autists, but...>>289002664This Anon is right. Berserk's writing has been shit for the last two decades, but this chapter reached a new low quality point.
>>289002477>Guts was never "lost"Like 6 chapters ago
>>289002704Guts was born without it.
>>289003391>completely assassinates his entire character.Not at all?
>>289002704He lost it prior to the Black Swordsman arc and it's never explained. He loses it again after he regenerates from a foetus in the Golden Age arc during the Eclipse.
>>289003701Like now that I do a second re-read it reads more like primal urges rather than a full "FUCK YOU GUTS". Did I just misinterpret something?
>>289003701griffith's rage is cold, he's not really the type to let out his emotions. he wouldn't want to give guts the satisfaction of knowing that he cares that deeply about him.also it's "pre-destined" for him to rape casca and create a demon baby in order to re-enter the physical world. in a sense he's just fulfilling his demonic duty.
>>289003701When he rapes Charlotte he's emotionless too, and that was actual foreshadowing. The equivalent of clutching and holding himself after = Griffith sparing Guts and Casca and letting them live.
>>289003885>rapes Charlotte>rapesPlebbit sissy detected.
>>289003946If I was plebbit I'd be telling people to "give the new chapters a chance"
>>289003885>>289003842>he wouldn't want to give guts the satisfaction of knowing that he cares that deeply about him.this feels like head canon unless it's something revealed later. I feel like you're going to say something like letting Casca see him showering in the lake was "part of his keikaku" (that means plan in japanese). I just read Femto raping Casca now as more just primal like if any other woman was there he'd probably rape her too. Maybe I gotta read Black Swordsman again to see his interactions with Guts (but tbf not a big fan of using past "canon" to make sense of future events because you know how much these mangakas love to retcon....)
>>289004083>Maybe I gotta read Black Swordsman again to see his interactions with GutsHe's basically a different character to later Femto/Griffith, I take it as a canonical pinch of salt 2bh.
>>289003797Yes. It does>BOO HOOO I COULDN'T DEFEAT MOZGUS WITH MY RAW STRENGTH >DRAGAONSLAYER HOW COULD YOU FAIL ME??!!>GONNA BECOME A SUICIDAL VEGETABLE I GUESS>CASCA? WHO?This is the type of writing you are defending
>>289004153Did you ignore the symbiotic relationship with his sword, how he'd stop chasing Griffith for revenge, in the chapters right before Casca is healed where he's resigned himself to a quiet life, when he's happy Casca is back (literally his purpose after dropping his revenge quest against the Godhand), and his journey is at an end? What about where he outright says he's never going to let Casca be taken again and it forms a huge part of his arc? And the fact that he was powerless to stop all this happening? All well within the story.
>>288989681art is ugly
>>288995305Berserk is slowly transforming into One Piece.>>288995950>let's go ahead and pretend that Muira didn't do this EXACT THINGBut he didn't.
>>289004243Yer ma is ugly lad
>>2890037011. Technically the last thing Griffith saw before he was enclosed was Guts trying to save him. He then says “you’re the only one who made me forget my dream). He does have an experience of “seeing” his comrade’s deaths, but I’d say this was more of a vision while transforming.2. By the time he is transformed, everyone is dead except Casca and Guts, and Casca has nearly lost consciousness. If Femto has any rage to take out, it will be on these two. These are also the two that have most wrested themselves away from him (more below).3. Just because Femto doesn’t show it on his face doesn’t mean he is emtionless. Likewise, my understanding is that becoming a demon rids one of emotions like guilt and doubt - but not necessarily fury and hatred, maybe even jealously.4. Griffith is about control. When Guts leaves the party, he escapes Griffith’s control. This causes Griffith’s emotional collapse which leads to his dream falling apart. As Femto, he will probably want to reassert control in the most damaging way possible.5. Shortly before the eclipse, Griffith sees how Guts and Casca clearly now have a romantic bond. Even though he didn’t really want Casca romantically, he sees this as another thing Guts stole from his control. It is this loss of control again that makes him envious.By raping Casca, he reasserts his own control over them both while vindictively hurting each of them immensely and setting the stage for his own demonic rebirth. Ironically, this allows him to discard both of them to chase his dream without restraint.
>>289004265Okay, but the art is ugly too.
>>289003701He started to feel bad for sacrificing his hunk of man meat so he started delaying their deaths as sacrifices until Skull Knight could rescue Guts from the other Godhand members. Femto already accepted them as sacrifices and the other Godhand were watching so he did what he could to save them. Then he checked up on them later to make sure they were doing okay. He's a good friend.
>>289004148Yeah. It's funny reading Prototype Berserk (kinda weird how they put it in the middle of the conviction arc instead of at the end of Vol 5 as a bonus but w/e) and seeing Guts then compared to Black Swordsman is funny. Prototype Guts was more DMC Dante like lmfao.>>289004267>1. I still consider the little bit while he's in the cocoon part Griffith.>2. Why would he even be mad at the Hawks? Guts and Casca sure but I don't even think he was more angry but just more shameful. >3/4. Yeah fair, I can sorta see it that way. >5. Eh.... I put it more of feeling even more like shit that he has to be babysat by Casca. I mean he did try to kill himself before the behelit. Even him dreaming a life with Casca felt okay. (I don't know why people say that it's GRIFFITH NIGHTMARE that he would spend his life with Casca. Like wtf he never said that)It just feels like there's so much fucking head canon that's completely opposite on what's happening and it's driving me fucking nutty.
>>289004083it's early griffith but as femto he kind of allows himself to be dictated by his worst impulses
>>289004267>By raping Casca, he reasserts his own control over them bothMy take has always been that he can see the flow of causality and knew that doing this would somehow raise the Godhands profile in the real world, allow the child to be corrupted, allow the moonlight boy to be his vessel, and subsequently lead him to Spirit Trees and Elfhelm, which subsequently allows him to weaken magic. I find it a bit suspicious that he could have manifested and taken Casca in any full moon night, ensuring he's not unaccounted for every 4 weeks, and yet he waited until he got everything from Guts party that he could before kidnapping Casca.
The "Black Swordsman is OOC" take is kinda boring. Guts and Griffith are really not that different from their Conviction/Lost Children iterations there. Griffith is just as cold at the Hill of Swords as he is here >>289004427 . Guts reaches lower lows than "cheating on Casca" (with the Apostle... when they were broken up) when he kills a bunch of ghost kids in LC.
>>289004208>Did you ignore the symbiotic relationship with his swordDid you ignore the part where the sword and brute strength wasn't always a solution to achieving victory and that fact couldn't completely break Guts before?>how he'd stop chasing Griffith for revenge, in the chapters right before Casca is healed where he's resigned himself to a quiet life, when he's happy Casca is back (literally his purpose after dropping his revenge quest against the Godhand), and his journey is at an end? What about where he outright says he's never going to let Casca be taken again and it forms a huge part of his arc? No, I didn't ignore it. It's not the part of the continuation we're discussing, so why did you even bring it up? Casca is barely lingering in his mind in the continuation, it's all about his self pitying and powerlessness, which have never stopped him before. That's the entire point of Guts as a character to fight against all odds against enemies far more powerful than him
>>289004520>Nuh uh because I said soYeah okay lad I accept your concession
>>289004518Griffith goes through a big character change as Femto. His interactions with Guts in BS are very different to future interactions. He's outright taunting Guts in BS. Clearly Miura didn't have the whole thing worked out yet.
>>289004380It’s a story about complex emotions and relationships. There’s going to be head canon unless the characters flat out state “this is exactly how I’m feeling and why I am doing this” constantly in every scene.
>>289004544Weird way to say you are out of arguments and want to make a concession. But I'll accept it nonetheless
>>289004591I don't see any incongruence between Femto in later chapters and Femto in Black Swordsman. Or Guts in later chapters and Guts in Black Swordsman.
>>289004623You've just completely refused to engage with the context around the character moment you're describing. There's no simpler way to say "I don't want to debate, I just want to say things" than that. Good day, and accept your defeat with grace.
>>288991380Kingshidro soloes bumts and grifbitch combined
>>289004647Femto in BS is sanctimonious and taunting Femto in the rest of the manga is collected and cold Do you have autism?
>>289001495>I’m fine with this - obviously they will delve more into what happened for all you fags hung up on “Muh explanation”.
>>289004596But there's clearly scenes where it explains you have to sacrifice what matters most to you and people STILL think Griffith is a fucking sociopath that never cared for anyone except Guts.
>>289004518I just take it as Griffith allowing himself to be his worst self when among the Godhand. When he takes a physical form, he tries to be the kind of man he aspired to be, "kingly" and not held back by emotional attachments to others.Even so, he's still intentionally saying the kind of things that he knows will cause Guts to fly into rage, but it's more sophisticated than when he confronted Guts as Femto.Miura also said that he wanted Guts and Griffith to "grow into adults" and have a different kind of relationship as the story goes on.You can see that Guts by the end was able to talk about Griffith as the man he was, instead of just immediately losing his mind over thinking about him.
Jesus fucking christ I forgot about ADULT ATTACK. shit almost made me fall off my bean bag laughing....
>>289004762It's interesting I suppose but the thing to remember is rebirth Griffith is still Femto, it's all an act. He doesn't have any humanity and it's all fake.
>>289004779>fall off my bean bagHope you're not too poor bro
>>289004786evidence?
>>289004804Chapter 83
>>289004800reading on a office chair is awkward because the hand stands get in the way. reading in bed is annoying since the book is pretty big and I'll have to sit up anyways to get a good viewreading on my bean bag chair is mad comfy since I get back support while sitting up but it's still a lean back like sitting.
>>289004823Couch like any other functional adult?
>>289004687>Femto in BS is sanctimonious and tauntingFemto was famously not being sanctimonious or taunting Guts when he raped Casca in front of him and then after his rebirth showed up just to taunt Guts and saved Casca from a rockfall, both times giving Guts the false illusion that he could save her. The only difference is that Femto is more wordy in Black Swordsman and he says some stereotypical villain things. It's called establishing a villain.
>>289004855same exact scenario with the bed unless you have a lazy chair....
>>289004810Chapter 83 is confirmation of Griffith's humanity, not the opposite.
>>289004858>Femto was famously not being sanctimoniousYup he was being>collected and coldAgain, do you understand the difference? Do you have autism lad?
>>288991356https://youtu.be/bSupYK20_Cs?is=EQ-5gs9juylf1972SO PUT YOUR GLASSES ON!NOTHING WILL GO WRONG!
>>289004891Did you miss the end of the chapter or what the entire point of it was? Griffith becoming Femto stripped all that.
>>289004887Interesting.
>>288991306>>288991315>>288991323>>288991334>Glasses have been put >on
>>289004858I thought this was actually worse than anything he said to Guts as Femto.Straight-up just telling Guts, as he stands atop the graves of the men whose souls he sacrificed, that he's "free" of them.If he wasn't a petty piece of trash, he would've simply never shown his face to Guts again after the Eclipse since he already got what he wanted. But being Griffith, he needs to have the last word.
>>289004647NTA but Femto seems more talkative and outwardly smug in Black Swordsman. He doesn’t say anything during the Eclipse and only has a few lines to Skull Knight later. It’s more a difference in expression than substance. Not sure if you are counting post-reincarnation human Griffith as Femto, but even so, his “your petty existence is beneath our notice” line in Black Swordsman is probably the most explicitly smug he ever gets.>>289004746Yes, there are people in every fan community who are retarded and do not understand stories. In most fan communities there are also children under 12 who have trouble understanding and forming nuanced opinions because their brains haven’t developed enough yet. And in every community there are people who write bandwagon comments just because it’s the popular thing to say, often without even reading the work. Don’t let it get to you. The only opinion you can truly control is your own.
>>289004665>You've just completely refused to engage with the context around the characterMy argument was completly taking the context into account. I don't know I've you've brought up the events everyone knows have happened and pretended that you are making a point just by listing them. If anything the said context only reaffirms that the real Guts would focus on returning Casca instead of wallowing in self-pity like a worm, which is uncharacteristic of him
>>289004947>Straight-up just telling Guts, as he stands atop the graves of the men whose souls he sacrificed, that he's "free" of themHe says he came there to see if he felt anything, he's referring to his feelings in general. It's why he's surprised when he feels an urge to save Casca.
>>289004962>My argument was completly taking the context into accountThen your argument makes no sense and you're just saying things. In the context of the story, Guts being defeated makes every bit of sense.
>>289004895>Sanctimonious is an adjective describing someone who acts or speaks as if they are morally superior to others. It typically implies a smug, insincere, or "holier-than-thou" attitude, where a person makes a public display of virtue or piety, often while failing to live up to those same standards themselvesRetard, shut the actual fuck up. That's literally Griffith's ENTIRE post-rebirth character. That is not even a contradictory trait with being "collected and cold". In what world is post-rebirth Griffith not sanctimonious or taunting?
>>288999826KOI!
>>289004976Yes indeed he came there to meet Guts and taunt him about not feeling one bit of remorse for the sacrifices he made. Your point?He also knows it's because of Moon Boy
>>289005007>Doesn't understand at all the difference between sanctimonious and cold/collected Anon for fuck sake stop embarrassing yourself and stop pretending there's a difference between a guy lording it over another one and actively taunting him, and the same guy later just spitting facts. You're a fucking embarrassment given you clearly thought you had a gotcha there and you just made yourself look like an actual fucking room temp IQ.
>>289004919Nope, Griffith becoming Femto was, as the IoE said, "taking the power of the feelings of his inner human world" and "transforming his physical body." Griffith says "I want wings," so that's the shape he takes. >>289004518 No words about demons in the IoE chapter.
>>289004994>In the context of the story, Guts being defeated makes every bit of senseNo, it doesn't, if we're reading the same manga>Then your argument makes no sense and you're just saying things>No, you!Ok, I've got it. You lost. Don't need to reply any further
>>289005064>the difference between sanctimonious and cold/collectedOkay so you're the one with actual autism because you think in black and white and actually believe someone can't be holier than thou and taunting and cold and collected at the same time. God I hate retards.
>>289005064You are embarrassing yourself to a far greater degree by not considering you could be wrong.
>>289004954miura also intentionally wanted their interactions to become more emotionally mature as the story goes on. but he's never exactly "denounced" the beginning parts of the story, it's just the part where both guts and griffith are still immature.
>>289005132>>289005161If you don't know the difference, unironically read more
>>289005113At this point I can only assume you're trolling. You're either doing one of two things>It doesn't make sense because I stopped reading at Lost Children and you must be wrong>It does make sense but I choose to ignore everything in the story because I live in cognitive dissonance Which way, young ESL?
>>289005007Naw you're the retard bro >Sanctimonious and tauntingSmug aura (as in his first words to Guts in BS), taunts to express dominance, enjoys the power outworldly (homie is smiling smugly)>Cold and collectedLacks outward emoting, collected and potentially rehearsed speech, doesn't give away any emotional tells in the eyesBS Femto - sanctimonious and tauntingPost BS Femto - cold and collected
>Guts is now a generic Dragonball character going into the Hyperbolic Time Chamber to increase his power levelThis is such garbage. Should have just left this story forever incomplete. It's better than raping it like this.
The smuggest
>>289005413Did you really think it was going to end without some kind of power boost
>>288989681PUT YOUR GLASSES ON
>>289005227>>289005381If you meant smug then you should have said smug, not sanctimonious and taunting, because no one besides you would argue that post-rebirth Griffith is easily both of those things. It's even sadder that you're just clinging to your wrong definitions of the words now. Plus Griffith was smug AND smiling at the Hill of Swords too.
Another hot take -Berserk "fans" that got in to it via the Anime (which itself is a poor adaptation) have rose tinted glasses towards GA.
>>289005480NOTTING WIRR BE WRONG
>>289005496>Doesn't know the difference between smug and sanctimonious and how one informs the otherJust put the fries in the bag bro.
>>289005519THERE'S NO CHANGE THERE'S NO FAMEIT'S UP TO YOU
>>289005504The original GA anime > the manga.
>>289005538Griffith was and is both you mouthbreathing illiterate retard.
>>289005545>Misses out key plot details that become wildly relevant just a few volumes later and causes further issues as an adaptation with every passing volume.Come on. Man
>>289005556Bro if you're having a melty over being wrong, just say so. I get you're trying to latch on to something here but you're unequivocally wrong, just get the fuck over it
>>289005563Like which one? Wyald the Unnecessary, or Bakiraka out of nowhere?
>>289005643>Puck (who is the main reason Guts softens emotionally after Black Swordsman)>Skull Knight (who warns Guts about the Eclipse and rescues them)>Wyald (who literally costs Guts his sword leaving him essentially defenseless in the Eclipse)>Bakiraka/Silat (who are literally about to start the endgame war with Falconia)
>>289005643>BakirakaKeep them in, they also forgot the biggest jobber in Berserkland
>>289000238his journey in this and previous chapters wasn't to face the beast, it was to face his own origins and walk back through his story to the beginning, and derive new strength from understand who he is really is as a person: a struggler. You got faked out, ya fell for it, idiooooot
>>289005685Puck could be added in a sequel anime in a form of flashbacksor shit. Same with Skull Knight and Silat. Getting rid of Wyald was a good decision. Same with those Bakiraka mutants.
>>289005563>>289005643>>289005685>>289005696>>289005759That's why Berserk from 2016 MOGS the old anime.
>>288989681VIOLENCE JACK HAS ARRIVED TO THE LAND OF KUSHANS
>Guts isn't a human anymore!I don't get this complaint, he IS a literal human being, his birth wasn't special except that he forced his way out of the womb after his mother died and doing so caused half his spirit to be left in the underworld. It was his act of struggling that made him special, just like Dragonslayer was an ordinary hunk of iron until, by fighting monsters, it became special. Guts is the ultimate antithesis to someone like Griffith who was born with a special destiny to become Godhand, and his ascension to godlike power was pre-ordained by fate. Nothing Guts does is set in destiny, because he's been defying destiny since minute zero of his life.
>>289005852>Guts is... KIND OF LIKE GOKUKEK
>>289005892based and truthpilled
>>289004734You’re assuming that just because they haven’t given you more explanation, there is none to come.
>>289005852>>289005892>>289005944>Goku is now a special alien! I don't get this complaint, he IS a literal low-class Saiyan survivor. His birth wasn't special at all; in fact, he was sent to Earth because his power level was so embarrassingly low that he was considered trash by his own race. It was his constant drive to train, struggle, and break his limits that made him special, just like the Power Pole was just a simple staff until it became iconic through his journeys. Goku is the ultimate antithesis to someone like Vegeta who was born as royalty with elite genius status, or Frieza whose universe-conquering power was handed to him by birthright. Nothing Goku achieves is handed to him by fate, because he has been defying the limits of his own bloodline since minute zero of his life.
>>289005450>>289005413After their last encounter where Guys could only cut a single hair from his head, it was obvious that something had to give.Otherwise the ending was just going to be “lol Griffith wins”. Maybe that’s what some people want, but they are retards
>>289006086They can't end it with GriffithWinslol. If the series ended 15 years ago maybe but at this point you have to have Guts get his payback or it will just be a spit in the face to the people who waited so long especially after the Boat and Miura dying.
Berserk fell off so hard
>>289006033>he was sent to Earth because his power level was so embarrassingly low that he was considered trash by his own raceakshewlly now we now his momma and dadda were trying to keep him safe while they already suspicions of freezer-man being very very bad
>>288989681Not only did I live long enough to see Berserk have not one but multiple bad anime adaptations. I also lived to see the creator die, and then his predecessors turn Berserk into a fucking Marvel movie.and you fuckers thought if Tite Kubo took over it would be slop, ha...fuck you.
the new drops prompted me to start a reread and it's been hitting so much harder the future seemed so simple for them ;_;
>>289009415fuck forgot image
>>289009422CRIES
>>289009356>Tite Kubo took over it would be slop, ha...fuck you.he wanted to take over it? Source?
>>289009422The day I censor Berserk for faggot ass jannies is the day I neck myself.
>>289010273Mori made this happen
>>288991347OUR HERO
>>289010273I miss lewd Farnese
>>289009356Marvel movie is a new one, where are the quips?
Someone edit this to make it look like guts punching griffith after his recent powerup
>>288992450Yes, it's true. This man has no dick.
I haven't followed Berserk in a long time. Does Guts still have the Berserker armor to complement his magical strenght now?
>>289012441Yeah it's still around.
>>288991360He's been "connected"
>>288997357Not that anon, but yes.. it makes sense he could not fully use his powers.Life literally (and i mean LITERALLY) Assraped him since birth. He was forced to survive in a starving dog world as a mercenary soldier.He always felt to be just like a very strong leaf that could barely catch up with the wind, and never realized he could be the one changing the direction of said wind.All he could do was to imagine himself to become a stronger warrior, efford after effordc kill after kill. That was what he could imagine of himself without someone teaching him more.Now it makes even more sense how he lost in his first game encounter with Zodd. He was facing for the first time someone out worthy from human comprension, a literal monster… and he felt truly scared for the first time facing him (and so his will and morale lacked in that very encounter).Now guts is actually discovering the meaning of himself and his innate powers.How that Will is not just SDONK! HARDER or surviving more injuries. He is realizing he can impose his will over reality instead of just striving against it.And from just empowering passively himself beyond human limits, now he has the chance to actually change things (like the berserk armor and the inner beast, with this knowledge he has the change to harness these power and make them his, instead of being a slave under them in order to get stronger)For a fun comparison: it is basically like if a medieval farmer got gifted a bayonet riffle without getting taught how to use it , how to reload and shoot.He will use it just as a mere fancy spear at best.But if you teach the farmer how to use it properly, he can actually do more with it.
>>289012455Is this BERSERK OMEGA?
>>289012441It'd be interesting to see if he can use it in a new way now.
>>289005759Then it's not a good adaptation.
>>289006086>Guys could only cut a single hair from his head>OnlyBeing able to make contact at all with what is essentially a God is a feat in itself. It's a mentality thing.
>>289010460Miura definitely lost his fire after going digital.
Reread chapter 376 and got a gut punch. Guts at his lowest dreaming that he's helplessly adrift in the astral current and that Schierke swoops in to save and reassure him. The strongest guy in the world seeing this little girl as an anchor of strength but wakes up to her absence. They're so goddamn cute. I hate that we've gone years with them separated.
>>289013844So Rickert is a literal demigod. Bravo, Miura-sense!
>>289015392It's SENSEI, baaaka.
>>289015392And Rickert could see fairies before the Eclipse, thus proving he was also born dead
>>289016225And he managed to have enough luck to not be butchered by eldritch monsters emerging out of nowhere. Maybe Rickert has always been the real Berserk?
>>289016225the bandits who killed the fortune teller and threw knives at Puck were also as good as dead.
>>289015392>Guts needed to be special and probably a bit godlike himself to pull a hair>Rickert can pimp slap a demigod because he's build different
>>288992450Yes, reborn Guts had to sacrifice his dick for godlike powers. This is the spin of the wheels of Causality or something.
How do you go many years of your life not realizing your spiritual side when you very are obviously a bit different and everyone calls you a monster? Including actual monsters.
>>289016225Even serpico can see puck. Its not a requirement. But only guts able to see citch as she was THAT weak. Unlike puck and other fairies.
>>289016615He wasn't "connected" yet.
>>289016615He's not even the strongest human in the series. Boscogne is stronger and so is silat's bodyguards. Guts is a simple man, he simply chalk it out to it being the result of his hardwork.
>>288997357>It could have been done hundreds of times before this chapterHe has though. He could literally be a life long mage. He just got even stronger. And I think the puppy was scared of much stronger spirits and was possibly just blocked too. Just telling my opinion.
>>289016791Makes sense to me.
>>289016615Guts has always been sort of a... boor. It's not until Schierke that he came to accept magic and spirits as being of aid to him rather than the enemy.The interstice to him just represented all the asshole demons he had to fight constantly.Miura would've probably pulled it off with more care to avoid this "chosen one" label but Guts connecting himself with the Astral world was always coming.It just doesn't require a person to be special as we see even Farnese of all people do it despite having zero aptitude for it (she couldn't even see elves).
>>288991360>connectedOMG Guts is connected to the Paths and can now turn into a Titan
>>288996788>That's 13 pages wasted on pure glazingI hope there's more when Griffith realizes Guts was always a threat and he should've killed him.
Nice discussion for a dead series, faggots
The Beast of Darkness can turn big and it's part of Guts...
>>289016791>Silat's bodyguards>stronger than GutsNot anymore. He easily fucked the shit up out of that stone door. The same that needed two Tapasa struggling to close it.
>>289016791Yes silat's bodyguards are peak humans, look how they strained to open the stupa over several moments. When Guts leaves he doesn't just slowly pry it like they did, he gives one good shove and the force dislodges and topples it entirely. Guts can put far more force into one hand than someone with way more muscle mass can muster.
>>289017882I love this brilliant symbolism in Berserk. Strong men were proven to be weak when compared to the chosen one protag. It reminds me of how I struggled through school despite being a bitch. That's why I love Berserk. RIP Kentaro Moira
>>289017075Aww did your hate thread die?
Did Guts ever pull off a feat like the stone door before even if he had to try a lot harder, because that would be sick.
>>289017986>chosen one protagChosen by who?
>>289018005Read the series to find out.
>>289015392Yes, Rickert unironically accomplished more in Berserk than Guts.
>>2890166153 hours of sleep a night + "Nah, I'd win" mentality.
>>289018479This is what Michelangelo would be drawing if he were alive today.
>>289018479He'll fuckin do it again.
>>288997208Based Pantera appreciation
>>288991360Would Miura approve this bullshit? I think not
>>289018030BY THE ACTUAL REAL GOD OF THE SERIESTHE AUTHORE YOU DUMB FUCKING BITCH ASSS N WODR
>>289019469Tourist freaking out. It's okay to say slurs here. Just be more careful on blue boards.
>>289019469Why are you appealing to some meta aspect? In-universe the collective unconscious is a singular deity that decides who is chosen and who is swept along with them and Guts isn't a part of that. Bitch ass nigger.
>>289012414At this point I wouldn't be surprised if Bill Murray made a cameo in Berserk
>>289021785God I miss old cel animation
>>288991380
>>288991380Jar-Jar Puck is the most cursed thing Miura gave us.
>>289020432>umm actually Guts isn't technically chosen by anyone he's just a very special magical being by birthNot the gotcha you think it is moritard
Mori was chad irl I will not forget this
>>289021814>He gets offended nobody is discussing slop like he wanted and starts to spam the "lolicon cringe compilation"LOL literally every thread
>>289021905This has gotta be the biggest midwit trap because protagonists having a niche in the narrative is nothing worth frothing at the mouth over.
>>289015392Nope, but the Godhand are based on perception and Rickert obviously sees through Griffiths "story"
>>289018030By the author?
>>288997841doesn't seem difficult to me. do you even lift? Go to the gym.
>>289021935he's the inspiration for both guts and griffith
>>289023545>author spends 30+ years hammering that Guts is treated indifferently by higher powers, the universe doesn't care whether he lives or dies, the only reason he persists is due to his will-to-liveRetards now: "Could this be chosen one?"
>>289018479Rickert (base form) scales above Guts (full power).
>>289023751>treated indifferently by higher powersSlan's ladyboner for him isn't indifference...
>>289023751And let me guess - your source isn't Berserk, but a thread from Pleddit, maybe a tweet made by a Moricuck, or a video made by one, am I right?
>>289023751>Zodd and Slan don't care for Guts' existenceIlliterate reader you are.
>>289023845My source:
I don't like that Berserk dad on TikTok, he's fake as fuck
>>289024011Nice collection. While I disagree with you, I acknowledge you as a true fan of Kentaro Miura's Berserk.
>>289023897Zodd does not constitute a higher power and I said that higher powers are indifferent to Guts. The Godhand members do not fear Guts. They aren't worried about what he's doing or feel the need to oppose him. Slan's interest goes as far as hoping on his downfall for her corruption fetish but not ensuring it.
>>289024099Which one? The bald dude?
>>289004786Every apostle that Miura delved into has shown humanity.
>>289024393https://youtube.com/shorts/VWBjbKmnLuQ
>>289024434Even if Femto killed his humanity, Griffith regained it due to Moon Boy.
>>289024481Eew.
>>289024099I don't like brown and black people but here we are
>>288989681Impressive tits.
>>288989681These guys really fell off a cliff after Miura died, how the fuck do you forget to draw a guy's arm
>>289025095The line of the cut is different in most of nu-Berk chapters. Fuck, it differs among chapters that were released one after another (excluding hiatus shit).
>>288991899I interpret it as Guts was supposed to die given the circumstances of his birth but either due to luck or happenstance managed to survive. Causality isn't perfect, even though the God hand manage to sway it they're not omniscient.Due to this, Guts exists in an interstice. He should've of died but didn't so he can defy his own fate which he has affirmed throughout the story. Personally the idea has always been there but I'm not fond of the execution since it's far too heavy handed without letting readers naturally draw this conclusion. You could say 'vagueposting', but this was already subtextual within the story, I just prefer it being explained in a way that isn't just 'YOU ARE SPECIAL BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T DIE, MUH INTERSTICE'.
>>289025396Yeah, that's what the most of people I talked with see it. Not as a bad plot element, because there have been sparks of foreshadowing visible throughout the whole story. It's just the execution of this element. It was lame to the point that I'm not surprised that there are many fans who are upset.
>>289025444Personally would've made more sense to drop the idea of evil as canon in this chapter as it vague posts about Guts being similar to a drop in the ocean. Even a drop not spun by fate can create ripples and is intended the same was causality exists and one can be propelled to greatness those ignored by it can equally shape their own destiny.Or something like that. I think it could've been alluded to in a way Guts realizes something deeper and relates to his prior introspective self.
>>289000238He was in a place where he was free from external forces.
>>289025396Isn't that the story of the Egg apostle?
>>289025504griffith took this body away from us
>>289025556Yeah actually, it's similar. The only difference being the Egg apostle never really had a chance where as Guts was fortunate enough to have enough of a chance to etch a life out for himself.
>>289025396God hand don’t control causality, the IoE does. And it wouldn’t miss that shit. God Hand effectively only have their hand on the pulse of fate.
>>289025700You're right, I suppose it's their ability to perceive causality instead. I mean, the IOE may shape people but it's a chicken and egg scenario. It was brought into this world by people desiring reasons for suffering, but even causality isn't perfect. For as much as a it shapes people's destinies their are plenty of people who are probably fated to die but not every cause and effect scenario is in it's control. Guts is just a one of those scenarios where as much as he should of died even a single instance of cause and effect not predicted managed to save him.
>>289025582So Guts is an egg/tranny?
>>289025517Agreed. Adding that removed chapter to one of the last volumes, and thus improving its status as a part of the story, would've been a good way to fix the current situation. Not perfect, but more nuanced than ch. 384 and 385.
>>289025787To be fair, the eggs suffering might've been ordained for the resurrection ceremony as a pawn of causality where as Guts was just supposed to die but got lucky. Causality isn't perfect.The only thing really regarding causality is if Guts died how would Griffiths downfall be spelled? Probably the King wanting to fuck Charlotte I imagine, so it would've happened regardless.
>>289012455Connected to what? To the internet?
>>289025997To his inner child.
>>289017882I love the Bakiraka's design so much
>>289017882it's actually one of those magic doors that can easily be opened with spiritual power.bakiraka are peak in physical prowess but they've neglected the spirit
>>289026388Arguably the best faction designs in berk.
>>289023701Nigga, those were real shackles. Not like the ones you stole from your mom's drawer.
>>289023701>Where's my iconic slave roll.warp speed don't rainbow read me nigga!https://youtu.be/w5urkfdMUXo?t=72
>>289019469I hate the fucking summer
>>289019469Are you underage?
I hope we get more chapters soon after the next.
>>289025829> Probably the King wanting to fuck Charlotte I imagine, so it would've happened regardless.Either that, or he become grand general or some shit just to see his soon to be kingdom getting stolen by the kushan invasion and pulling a Kratos
>>289024434Femto isn't an Apostle
>>289004520>Casca is barely lingering in his mind in the continuation, it's all about his self pitying and powerlessness, which have never stopped him before.Just rereading through this thread and I realized you're right. It made me sad, not for the story but for what they're doing to Berserk's mummified legacy and characters
>>289030746Mori likes depressed, cucked, characters too much to be able to write Guts right.
>>289021798There is something almost ethereal looking when it comes to good cel animation.
>>289006033the very fact there doesn't seem to be no power ceeling and everyone can improve forever, with no consequences for pushing onsef too hard, makes the whole "born strong" irrelevant.Moral lesson fall flat when they come from an universe where death is a joke.
>>289032418It's not a moral lesson you churlish oaf it's an aesthetic choice
See you guys next week for the newest batch of salty tears from skullknighters!
>>289032418Don't forget that irremovable Brand of Sacrifice may be proven to be actually removable for Guts and Casca. With the current state of Berserk I can easily imagine such shit happening.
It really does feel like the current artists don't respect Miura's work at all
>>289033533They are his apprentices, Anon. Trained under Miura and all. The sequel chapters are supervised aka directed by Miura's best friend. You will like them, Anon. You will totally be grateful and love the newest chapter.
>>289033369It'll probably just fade off when Griffith dies
>>289033533I don't think there was ever going to be any scenario where a continuation of a dead author's work would feel respectful.At best you could hope to service the hardcore fanbases enough that they won't be at your throat. But even then you're taking a dead man's franchise and putting your fingerprints all over it.
>>289033791Lame, given how the Brand was meant to be connected to the force higher than any Apostle or Godhand.
>>289023751>treated indifferently by higher powers, the universe doesn't care whether he lives or diesHe had the single most important role in bringing about Femto all according to the prophecy>"Could this be chosen one?"Everyone is a "chosen one" according to your logic as their fate has been predetermined. In the story context what makes Guts a chosen one is that he's supposedly existed outside of fate because of his birth, has special powers because of it and is unlike any other human, all of which is a retcon>>289024011Nice dust collectors. Try actually reading it for once though
>>289033684I believe Miura would unironically kill them had he known what they're going to turn Berserk into>>289033826>But even then you're taking a dead man's franchise and putting your fingerprints all over it.Those aren't fingerprints. Those are buckets of shit smeared over the work of his life
>>288989681>implying post-Miura Berserk matters
>>289034188>>289034275>>289034421Why do you keep reading it and talking about it?
How was Guts able to kill Femto as a normie?
>>288991291Me resting on my own foreskin after the circumcision.
>>288996788nigga you are retarded>288991323Shows guts now has super strength - stronger than the 2 giant bald niggas who had a hard time closing those doors>288991334Guts has a serious face, having reached enlightenmentHe is probably not a ragetard anymore>288991340shows that guts brand has been neutralized, jeets fear him>288991347shows guts is so fucking strong that he can break chains by flexing his muscles. Probably magic.>288991356>288991360Puck, a fairy, recognizes that guts now has spiritual power shit>288991368Jeet wizards dont know what the fuck is going on - they dont control himReading those pages, one can imply that Guts can probably kill Zodd with his bare hands and is now a real threat to the God Hand
>>288991368Oh I get it, he had his "veins of gold" moment.
>>289012717>He always felt to be just like a very strong leaf that could barely catch up with the windHe never actually thought much about it. The fate was all but esoteric bullshit to him. He never doubted his abilities and time and time again went against the enemies far more powerful than him. And won numerious times>All he could do was to imagine himself to become a stronger warriorHe didn't imagine, he trained all his life. There was no magical power of imagination involved in him becoming the strongest warrior. The brand might gave him a subtle upgrade as was speculated by the characters>Now guts is actually discovering the meaning of himself and his innate powers.And those powers and "meaning" are bullshit retcons pulled out of ass at the last moment. As I've said there were many chances to awaken those innate powers much earlier would they have actually been Miura's plan all along. But his birth has been treated as nothing improtant all along>He is realizing he can impose his will over reality instead of just striving against it.>And from just empowering passively himself beyond human limits, now he has the chance to actually change thingsImagine believing Miura would have written Guts to become basically Jesus-tier chosen hero, while writing the walls of gibberish pretending this somehow makes sense. If you think the only way Guts should be able to fight overwhelming forces is to elevate himself to the level of gods, you haven't got the point of the manga at all>it is basically like if a medieval farmer got gifted a bayonet riffleIt's basically like if a medieval farmer learned he was Neo from the Matrix all alongBeing gifted a bayonet might be an analogy to getting the berserker armor, not being a special born savior of the world
>>289034824And that's what baffles me the most: nu-Berk fans claiming to get the point of the manga, but not really. They would consume any kind of shit appearing in the newest chapter. Fuck, it looks like me and other people, maybe Miura himself, didn't get that Berserk was a power fantasy shonenshit all along, lek.
>>289034902Miura definitely started it off with the idea of writing a power fantasy since according to interviews he started with the idea of a guy with a big sword and built everything else around that core concept. And why did he want a guy with a big sword? Becuase he liked Fist of the North Star and wanted to do a spin on it. Kenshiro is 100% a power fantasy character, and that's what Miura's starting point was.I will not comment on Mori's mopey version of Guts and how limp-wristed he is.
>>289034433People are allowed to express their opinions and it doesn’t just have to be sucking something off, reddit-fag.
>>289034957Okay but what I don't get is why, after 5 years of Miura being dead, you're still reading it and talking about it is all
>>289034950Yes, it started off as a gore, edgy slasher, but quickly became more nuanced and complex story. The shift happened relatively fast and stayed for over 300 chapters.
>>289034793>shows *the simplest points some of which would be conveyed by Miura in a single panel instead of multiple pages*>Guts can probably kill Zodd with his bare hands and is now a real threat to the God HandOMG THAT'S SO FUCKING HYYYYPEEEE. I don't get how anyone could complain
>>288989681Moricucks kept on saying "TRUST THE PLAN BRO" like dumb Zoomers most of them are after that shitty thing that happened with Elf Island's destruction. Now we have Guts the superhero, kek. I can't wait to see the Godhand members losing to the power of friendship.
>>289035022And there were retards complaining that Miura delivered several pages showing beautiful sceneries of Elf Island... I hope the same people are happy now to see shit eligible to be covered in max 4 pages, but taking the whole ass chapter.
>>289034987Probably because it’s a long running, highly-rated series with fanboys. Even newbies will read the series and get to this point and go “wtf”.
>>289035146But you don't claim to be newbies, you claim to be long time fans who understand the series intimately. Very curious.
>>289034950>Miura definitely started it off with the idea of writing a power fantasy A specific power fantasy about a mere human defying something far greater than him. Struggling, barely surviving, but going forward despite all odds. This point was obvious from very early on and consistent throughout the story
>>289035197> about a mere human defying something far greater than himMere humans can't wield swords bigger than their own bodies. Physically impossible. Sorry, but that just doesn't work.
>>289034824>He didn't imagine, he trained all his life. There was no magical power of imagination involved in him becoming the strongest warrior. The brand might gave him a subtle upgrade as was speculated by the charactersEven this upgrade wasn't necessary, as his ability to wield the dragonslayer is perfectly explained by his history. It's more that Schierke couldn't believe her eyes when a mere human was as strong as Guts, which is the whole point of his character - the indomitable strength of the human spirit.It's astounding that brown anons still suck Mori's cock after he does a 180 on the whole underlying message of the manga.
>>289035254Why does no other human have an indomitable spirit like Guts though? He's the only one able to do all this shit
>>289035242That’s why Miura had him swinging large swords since he was 6 and getting progressively bigger. They didn’t have any baby-sized swords for kids.But, if you want you could note that Guts only used the Dragonslayer after being marked, so one could theorize he’s been using astral enhancements all along.
>>289035272Most humans aren’t raised like guts. No factories raising babies in military camps, butt-raping them with BBC and throwing them into war at 8 years old.
>>289035349>>289035327>Guts is literally the only person in the history of the world to be given the upbringing required to give him the power to do this thing no one else can doWow! That sounds kind of special to me. Almost like he'd been... chosen for it.
>>289035372So like every other human?You could argue the IoE molds everyone to orchestrate its fate. The theory may be that the elves kept Guts alive when he should’ve died. Basically, he’s not super-human (just his upbringing makes him particularly adapted and bred for certain skills), but that he’s an extra, and that in itself may have ramifications, especially if he can reign in his darker side (the beast, which should be the IoE, as it is apparently the dark side in every human).
>>289035511>Idea of EvilBut it's not canon. It hasn't been for decades. I will accept shit related to it once that chapter scrapped years ago actually gets added to the new volume.
>>289035558It’s mentioned outside of the removed chapter. Flora and Void hint at it. It’s shown at the end of chapter 82. The IoE is already canon. Miura’s complaint was that it “gave away too much, too soon”.
>>289035805I referred to IoE as described in the scrapped chapter, but you're right. Do you think that chapter 82 will be added at some point to one of last volumes?
>>28903599183 is the chapter that wasn't collected, 82 is in the volumes and you see the Idea of Evil in it though you don't find out anything about it
>>289036114Fuck, I messed up the number.Anyway, so do you think it will be compiled eventually?
>>289036396I don't know man, I'm just correcting people on minor factual mistakes as this is the limit of my ability
>>289036423Understood.
>>289035182>Why do you guys still keep reading it if you don't like it?>You never even read it so you don't get to criticize it!Classic dickrider move, GTFO.
>>289036741No but why do you keep reading it though?
When did Guts "awaken" anyway?
>>289036947Last chapter.
>>289036867To criticize it
>>289037111Fair enough
>>289035272Because he is the main character, are you niggers just baiting or is actually retarded?
>>289019433Unfortunately he can't be reached for comments
>>288989681In the end, will Griffith say sorry and be the coolest guy?
>>288995797Why the hell did she disappear? It's not like Puck or the other one was forcibly yeeted off the corporeal plane.
>>288989681Retards magically forget that this character can casually carry 400 pounds in one hand (impossible for any actual human), has been able to dodge lightning, fought well beyond human limitations, casually wrestles 1000 pounds demons but this magic bullshit is just one step too far.
>>289038805She's gonna come back in someway, but it wont be the same thing
>>289039624Yes Human Freak Guts better than Magic Guts
>>289039624And the bakiraka can destroy an armored knight with their barehands. Pure physical power is always more engaging than magic.
>>289036741If you want to be a cuck, go for it lad
>>289035991I think they'll have to add it at one point as it's clearly playing in to the ending and Flora herself directly references it
>>289035022>which would be conveyed by Miura in a single panelLmao that ain't Miura bro
>>289040194So guts magically pushed the door foward no physicality whatsoever? His muscles straining was just an aesthetic choice?
>>289039624People just want Guts to suffer, for some not even the Berserk armor is a good power-up
>>289040326He pushed a bit, the door simply opened by itself as guts already achieved self reflection. Do you forget that it's a magic chamber?
>>289040326So what’s stopping any witch from handling Gut’s sword or being as strong as him, can someone tell me?
>>289000263>Beat of DarknessThey should change Guts to a Bard now and then he makes a song of Light and Darkness and Femto and his goons leave Falconia forever
>>288989681I don't get it why it's so hard for people to understand. You speed readers are insane. He's not a normal human. Because he was born of a dead mother he's basically not fully alive and not bound by causality. This sense deprivation allowed himself to actually anchor his spirit into the world while also basically integrating his "shadow". If he puts on the armor and it goes well you can basically expect him to teleport to Griffith and melt his bones. Actually in reality he's probably going to save Griffith and kill the god of evil causality or at least reset it some way to break the cycle of god hands.
>>289042750>This sense deprivation allowed himself to actually anchor his spirit into the world while also basically integrating his "shadow".I dont think people are mad about this I think what most of us are complaining about is the unexplained Jedi like powers, also wht cured Guts state of Depression for all he know Casca has been added to a sacrifce, I think before we got any nirvana moment for Guts he should of learn that Casca was a prisoner. Also it would be cool if Skull Knight stopped acting all mysterious and helped Guts since we are getting closer to end game and we know some about his past, Idk why that Jobber acts so mysterious for.
>>289040461Maybe for retards or tourists. The Berserker Armor is great in how it fits the lore, main themes, and mixes everything with a power-up that comes with a huge price to pay.
>>289042750>Because he was born of a dead mother he's basically not fully aliveAnd where was it ever suggested, "not speedreader"? Being not fully alive is a pretty big deal whatever that means. You certainly can provide an evidence to back that up, right?>This sense deprivation allowed himself to actually anchor his spirit into the world while also basically integrating his "shadow"."Shadow"? "Anchering the spirit"? What the fuck are you talking about, schizo? What manga are you even reading?>If he puts on the armor and it goes well you can basically expect him to teleport to Griffith and melt his bones.What? Do you unironically think Guts going gear 5 is peak writing?>Actually in reality he's probably going to save Griffith and kill the god of evil causalityOh, you are a fucking underage shonenshiter. Typical Moriserk fan
>>289043498That "man" you are discussing with sounds like a typical Moricuck who can't even go outside his headcanon and actually read the story. Fuck, so people who had massive complications at birth should be on a similar level to Guts from ch. 385, according to this logic. Even mediocre shonenshit wouldn't go that far to shit on its own plot.
>>289043644>Even mediocre shonenshit wouldn't go that far to shit on its own plot.Agreed. At least if a hero is a chosen or special one it's usually established pretty early on. This shit is far worse than the worst popular shonen asspulls I can think of, especially considering it's happening to the great manga against the will of it's deceased author
Pic rel was Guts before he was "connected" We're gonna see some crazy shit.
>>288991380What the fuck is even happening
>>289045225Miurafags will tell you it's peak Berserk.
>>289045225Elf island didn't have a large amount of baryte elementals so movement is less restricted than other places. Isidro abused this buff to do gymnastics around the witches, exposing all their pantaloons and belly buttons. Isidro panting them all in one panel could be considered a speed feat.
Still no naked lolos
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>>289045425Morda is sexy. I'd also be distracted by her curvy tits.
>>288991380>schierke's naked ass>for what purpose>lolis underwear>for what purpose>Morda's tits>for what purposeto make my DICK HARD, anti-miura gaylord
>>289003999is this Loss
>>288998599Even early on as a child he was strong enough to be killing grown men casually. He was always a freak but since the eclipse he just got even worse.
>>289000205Isma was the best berserk girl until she got yeeted
>>289003575Mediocre edgy shounen have better writting.
>>289004762>>289004786Deep down Guts still loves the friend Griffith he had. That's why he gets super angry and rages because the betrayal is so deep. You could say it made him... BERSERK.
>>289046546and just when guts was getting over him, griffith does it again
>>289046637Look at those cock-sucking lips of Guts!
>>289035372Chitsh was manipulated by the Idea of Evil? No... poor plant spirit.
Autism = Superpowers in Fantasia
>>289041748It's like why a witch wouldn't pick just some random, brittle twig to be their spell-casting catalyst. Dude's been building his muscle his entire life, so he's got far more capacity for being buffed without snapping apart.
>>289047681To think that some people here actually believe that life is a video game and that petite witch can be as strong as tall powerlifter, because "why not".
