New trailer for Madoka Magica: Walpurgis no Kaiten just droppedhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HD6vwmNvcXo
>>288995572finally
>>288995572>2028Why do they keep changing the date!?
>>288996087It’s still 2026, just August 28th
>>288997005This series' obsession with always repeating the same scenes makes sense over the amount of time it took for them to happen irl but not over the amount of content they actually happen across. This is like the fifth time they do the girls walking to school scene in not twice as many hours.
Still looks cool. Gonna have to filter all these threads when it comes out to stop from being spoiled.
>>288997085The universe has been reset, that's why they're going to classes as if nothing's wrong.
as a homura fan i hated this trailer, it's going to be trash
>>288995572Sayaka a cute.
Does it say that Homura in this universe is supposed to be Sayaka's childhood friend? Pretty sure I heard that. >>288997085They're not the same scene even if they're the same type of scene. Madoka has used repetition before to draw comparisons and contrasts between things in the past and it's the same thing here.
>>288997225Thank god they didn't nerf her tits
KAITEN synopsis on the Japanese websiteTranslated
>>288997327>homura hatefuck this movie
>>288997371By the sounds of it, those girls will be the antagonists alongside WalpHomura needs a good enemy to btfo
>>288995572I hope I can see the movie on threaters here in south america
Homura should grow a pair and rape Madoka.
>>288997610but she wants Madoka to rape her instead
Homura did nothing wrong.
>>288997699>reco discount girlsIT'S OVER
>>288997246Yeah, I know that's what they're doing, my point is that if you were to watch all of Madoka in a row this included that callbacks happen way more frequently and quickly than you realise.
>>288997805LMAO get btfo loser
>>288997246>Does it say that Homura in this universe is supposed to be Sayaka's childhood friend?they're talking about the transfer student. After Homura remade the universe, Madoka became the transfer student, not Homura
>>288995572I'm intrigued and interested nigga.Butcher writing this? or just in name only.
>>288997987It's his script. Obviously has been changed since it's been so long
>>288997987this is Butcher unfiltered kino
>>288997518It would be cool.
>>288997987Yeah he wrote the script of this movie back in 2014-15. I don't exactly now why the sequel got delayed for many years.
>>288997987Butcher kino from 2014ish12 years in waiting
>>288997426There isn't much time to develop these girls, so I'm guessing they'll be the witches we saw in the series and they'll serve to show the collateral damage of Homura or something like that. I think her enemies will be Sayaka and Mami/Bebe/Madoka. What I don't know is what will happen in the end, I imagine something like Devilman, although it's too dark for this franchise.
>>288998016>>288998029>>288998062>>288998072My body is ready. We eating good.
>>288997518>>288998058Depends on the country I guessChile, Peru and maybe Brazil have huge anime fanbases. Other countries really don't care that much. Sadly
>>288998016>>288998062Kizu also took many years, I hope it's just Shaft working slowly and not a script change due to the producers
>>288998141good thing I'm from Chilewe got the chainsaw man movie so I hope we get this one as well
>>288997518I hope for the same in Europe. Reze arrived quickly, and there are re-releases of some Ghibli films, but I'm still waiting for the Gintama movie. Hopefully, it will arrive in 2027.
>>288998106I honestly don't think I'd hate it if Madoka and Homura died together. Something similar to Devilman would probably be kino if done rightI don't think that will happen though
>>288998278mystery milkers
>>288998278So who do we think this could be?I don't think this is anyone we know
Will Madoka finally get to spank Homura for her dumb shenanigans? Find out soon!
>>288998331it's one of the homuras. she makes all the other ones uncomfortable so they stuck her in a church
>>288998278why is the bitrate so bad in your screenshots, anon?I have a QHD screen and it doesn't look this bad
>>288998396What video source? I'm just dumping all the I-frames.
>>288998458>What video source?youtubeI have premium tho so I get the special 1080p version
>>288998491OK, so the non-premium is just crap. As expected of YouTube.
So how will this end and will Homura ever be happy?
>>288998537I want Homura to be happy too but I expect a tragic endingit would be sad and I would cry like a faggot but it would so kino at the same time
>>288998537neither me nor homura will be happy until we are married. alas
>>288998278Just use dlp
>>288998579my fuarking hero
>>288998579Who's Madoka supposed to be flexing to here ?
>>288998606That doesn't get you the Premium version unless you have Premium cookies.
>>288998639the most logical answer would be Homura
>>288998639HomuraThis is just the first time (on-screen, since it wasn't technically the first time because of CD1) Madoka and Homura meet
>>288997610She pretty much did in Rebellion.
>>288997805>Homura is finally based>Jobs to Madoka and the power of friendshipThis new PV actually lowered my hype
>>288998200And what could happen? Homura can no longer exist if Madoka becomes a goddess again, and a happy ending with them together in space is too happy for something written by Urobutcher.
I only watched the original series. Are those movies worth watching?
>>288998713No
>>288998713rebellion is the best movie ever made and I'm not kidding
FIN
>>288998615>The devil praying to GodFvaaark
>>288998749Too bad this movie is probably going to undo all of Rebellion
>>288998537I honestly don't believe Homura is psychologically capable of being happy. More importantly I don't want some shallow forced feel-good ending that gets worse the more you think about it (ie Eva Rebuilds). I'm hoping for yet another bittersweet ending but I'll accept tragedy if it's well written.
>>288998815this movie could end up being more kino than rebellion tho
Well whatever Madoka decides to do, Homura's going to accept it eventually
Kyubey is revealed to be a slave to a personification of entropy that is above everything else in power, his mistress gets pissed that he let the Universe be ruled by idiot girls and wipes his species out to make new incubators. Entropy turns Madoka and Homura into witches to be together forever in madness for defying her and reboots the Universe to a stable state where shody hope wannabes get horribly broken.
Friendly reminder that the Rebellion previews almost exclusively showed the first 20 minutes of the film. What do we think they're hiding this time?
>>288998878>What do we think they're hiding this time?futa sex of madoka and homura
>>288998712I don't know, but Madoka is pretty light compared to a lot of Uro's other works. To the point where a dark ending like that would be incredibly hard to pull off right>>288998713Rebellion is kino of the highest order and is better than the original series
>>288998815I'm not a total Homura simp and admit she does <spoiler>many</spoiler> things wrong. I fully expect Kaiten to agree with me but it will depend how things are handled specifically.
>>288998927anon, this is not HTML...
>>288998912Girls can't love girls
>>288998878>What do we think they're hiding this time?A ton but I'm sure we have seen a bunch of stuff from every act. Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if the shot with Madoka and the glowing girl was from the last 15 minutes of the movie.
>>288998954if Homura doesn't love Madoka, then I don't know what the fuck love is
>>288998955still crazy that this dork turned into what we have now. Damn (well she's still a bit of a dork)
Do Gen Z know about Madoka?
>>288998712I think it will be an analysis of Homura and Madoka's characters that will end with Homura crying and being "defeated" by Madoka's words, thus giving them their "happy ending" for the universe (infinite yuri!). It's not exactly happy because they still end up disappearing. It's an ending that would make sense for the series; it allows for a lot of spectacle and works on the theme of the consequences of actions :) It's safe in every sense without being shallow. If this isn't the ending, I don't know what could be.
Do you think we’ll get pure suffering kino like the early 00s or will Urobuchi deliver a straightforward happy ending to all of this?He’s changed to the point where he says that people want more healing feel-good works over the exciting dark works that he likes to work on. I don’t fully agree with hid take since there’s plenty of edgy dark works that are extremely popular nowadays, but to each their own. This movie will either be more controversial than Rebellion or completely recontextualize it.
>>288999032madoka is gen Z now, she likes tiktok dances and fortnite
>>288999035Suffering kino for Homura. She definitely won't get a happy ending. But Madoka will soften the hurt I guess.
>>288999033It feels like the safest ending but I honestly don't doubt it being what happens.Madoka and Homura fuck off together while everyone forgets that they ever existed. It's just the original series ending but Homura isn't alone. Would probably still be good
>>288998878I have a feeling Homura losing her wings is going to happen relatively early in the movie and most of it will have her struggling with the universe she created slipping from her control, possibly creating the Walpurgisnacht that effectively created her.>>288999035Butcher has mellowed a lot since writing Madoka (being successful will do that) so I don't know where he's going to take thus. Didn't Kamen Rider Ryuki have a somewhat similar plot?
>>288999035I honestly think that it will have a "happy" ending (compared to what Uro is known for). Madoka won't get to live a normal life, but Homura will be there or something. And that will make everything okay kinda.Madoka and Homura dying in each others arms would be edgekino, but I doubt that he will pull that. >>288999136I haven't seen it but I'm pretty sure the Kamen Rider series Urobuchi wrote ended very similarly to how Madoka did. It was also the last thing he wrote before Kaiten, so who knows what that could mean.
Anons, there are no happy endings.Homura and Madoka are just the last link of an endless chain of dying universes that get consumed by entropy.Madoka is turning to Kriemhild Gretchen and Homura is turning into Homulilly Fausut (a.k.a. Walpurgisnacht) which when fused become Kriemhild Fausut the ultimate witch embodying the record of their dead universe preserved for eternity.Everything happens because entropy is a bored Goddess that likes drama.
What's the point of adding more girls into the series if I only care about the og five.
>>288995572does anyone actually care about this?
>>288999249The film needs antagonists
>>288999211>universes that get consumed by entropyEntropy can decrease in our universe if the multiverse theory is correct>the total entropy (a measure of disorder) of an isolated system—like the universe—always increases over time
No matter what happens, I think that it is pretty clear that Homura and Madoka won't be separated again.I think the ending song of Rebellion - with its last shot being Madoka and Homura running forwards together - shows that in the end they will reunite and stay reunited.Or maybe Madoka will abandon Homura again, and we can get a Rebellion 2 in a few years from now
>>288999211Urobutcher and Nips in general never do nihilistic endings. All these entropy posts are setting themselves up for disappointment.
Who was the most popular meguca before chapter 10 dropped? Mami, right?
>>288999401Probably kyouko for le edgy background and behavior
>>288999398Care to show proof of that hypothesis?
I just want them to be happy
>>288997327>rumorYachiyo cameo confirmed.
>Look up Madoka since it was on my list for some time now>12 episodes >3 moviesI expected more desu, but I guess that means I don't have to sit through weeks of it. It's good right? I also see that Beginnings and Eternal have TV version does it add anything new or no?
I think Sayaka will team up with HomuraThey can hate each other, but if Madoka in in danger than Homura will put her life on the line for over a decade to make sure Madoka is safe, and Sayaka knows this
>>288999755>3 moviesthe first 2 movies are just the 12 episodes of the animeyou should watch the 12 episodes and the movie rebellion
>>288999755beginnings and eternal are recaps of the tv series
>>288999401You mean episode 10? Mami had the most fanart because of the shock of episode 3's ending. But Sayaka quickly climbed up there since she basically played the protagonist role until she died. The first big boom of art and love fo r her came when she went full edge with how she killed Elsa Maria at the end of episode 7. From the beginning to the end of the series the "attention" from the fans went from Mami > Sayaka > Homura > Homura/Madoka. People liked Kyouko but she was always more of an accessory to Sayaka's arc and her big standout moment was shared with Sayaka.
>>288999714Gretchen and Homulilly will be happy forever as a Universe ending Eldritch abomination, there is no pain, there is no fear only love and madness under entropy.
>>288999755>Beginnings and Eternal have TV version does it add anything new or no?Nah, you can skip it since they are basically a summary of the original anime, with better graphicsYou have to watch the anime first, it's more impactful. Then watch the 3rd movie
>>288997805>Now that I've successfully usurped the Law of Cycles I'll rule the universe with my beloved madok-AAAAAAAAAAAAA SAVE ME INCUBATOR-SAMA!
>>288999755>It's good right?It's kino of the highest order >I also see that Beginnings and Eternal have TV version does it add anything new or no?No. Both of those movies are just recaps of the main series anyway (with a few scenes removed or added). You don't need to watch them
>>288999755They are the same as the series but shorter. Just new music, new transformation scenes and improved visuals for certain scenes.The main series is a good enough conclusion, but if you want more just watch the third movie. There's a spin-off show based on the mobile gacha game but that sentence alone should be a redflag for you.
>>288999755Be sure to watch the bluray version of the TV series and then Rebellion
>>288999811I'd be fine with this as the ending of Kaiten, honestly.
Alright, got it, why is there like a Beginnings/Eternal TV version with 11 episodes then, I guess it's just a slightly modernized version?I'll watch the original BD 12 episodes though+Rebellion tomorrow or in a few days, thanks anons.flagged as spam because of too many (You)s lol
>>288999755You just need to see the main series and RebellionI'd say of the community considers the Different Story Manga and Wraith Arc Manga to both be pseudo-canon, same with Oriko Magica albeit probably less so. all 3 are only 3 volumes long if I remember right. You don't need to read any but I'd recommend the Different Story since it's genuinely good
>>288999974>why is there like a Beginnings/Eternal TV version with 11 episodes then, I guess it's just a slightly modernized version?It was just advertising for the new movie since it aired a few months before February, which was when the new movie was meant to come out before it got delayed for the final time
>>288999974>Alright, got it, why is there like a Beginnings/Eternal TV version with 11 episodes thenThat's just the movie spliced into tv episodes. It has less content than the original run.
>>288999981I'm not big on manga, well, it's not even that, I'm just lazy and procrastinator, but if I like the series enough and feel like it wasn't enough I'll remember that.>>289000025>delayedRight, I remember that.>>289000063Got it.
nice
Reminder:Sayaka did nothing wrong.Homura did nothing wrong.Madoka did nothing wrong.Mami did nothing wrong (coping).Kyouko did some stuff wrong and her karmic burden will be having to prostitute herself for money.
>>289000261sad Kalafina is not longer a thing but fictionjunction is just Kalafina without Hikaru and Wakana at the end of the daythe girl that replaced Wakana has a great voice too
>>288995572After watching this trailer, what are your expectations for Kaiten?
>>289000355I'm hyped
>>289000355Homura will finally be happy by the end
>>288995572Finally a proper look at Walpurgis-chan, voiced by Maaya Sakamoto.
>>289000355I have no real expectations, hoping for it to be good though of course.
>>289000355I'm sure the music and visuals will be great. I have no idea what the story's going to be or whether it will deliver. The series and Rebellion being as good as they were is like lightning striking twice and a third time seems unlikely.
>>289000478I don't really remember the last time since I had an erection for someone while watching a pv.
>>289000636>Mami with megane and smaller boobsHmmmm... I'll take it.
>>289000478>>289000636>THIS is Homura's greatest enemy In another life, they could've been friends
>>289000355>Homura rules over the world and enjoys her life with Madoka and the others>The orange and green girls show up vowing vengeance on Homu because she destroyed LoC>They resurrect Walpurgis from the Mound at the Root of the Depths>Walpurgis is reincarnated as a magical girl without a soul gem, her appearance is a combination of the Holy Quintet, especially Mami, Homura and Madoka>Homura jobs to Walpurgis, until Madoka somehow figures everything out and returns in her old costume and saws the day>Or does she?I'm expecting this movie to end on a cliffhanger as well, no way this is a definitive conclusion with the amount of back story they are adding.
She committed no sin
cute
I'm surprised more people aren't talking about the synopsis. That is way more important imo than the new trailer since it actually confirms stuff for us
>>289001097Cheese knife
>>288998878The plot twist in rebellion happened in the last 5 minutes, no reason it can't be the same way here. They'll make you think the script is headed one way for the entirety of the movie and then pull some bullshit swerve at the very last minute just like Rebellion did.Unless he really went for some kind of "wrap everything up neatly" super-final-ending which I doubt.
>>289001097Fat fuck, stop eating cheese
Homura's costume in the throne scene has changed.
Has any character ever kidnapped their whole franchise to be the center of everything as much as Homura did?I'm sure there are some but it's still wild to think Homura could be considered both main protagonist and main antagonist of the original show, rebellion and now the new movie just by sheer popularity.
>>289001865this is the power of flatties
>Homura, even with all of her demoness AI YO powers gets done in by a bunch of literally whos.>Brazilian night comes back, and is defeated the same way as the original show.>Madokami comes back and the status quo is back again pre rebellion.>Rebellion becomes meaninglessI know its butcher, but so far I am not feeling it bros, I am not feeling it at all.
>>289002116killing witches in their barriers is like the core thing magical girls do, i dont know why you think homura would be an exception
WAIT.... guys, I think Homura might be gay.
>>288998008Homura has a lot of fans here.
THIS SHOW IS GONNA BE MAGIA RECORD TIER FLOP
>>289002154Sayaka couldn't so much as touch her at the end of rebellion even with Oktavia, and I am expected to believe some bums can?
>>288997805She literally has god powers, if she loses then hopefully the movie is the final Madoka production.
>>289002312sayaka is urobuchi's designated bullying target so she doesn't count
>>289000478>Maaya SakamotoIt's fun watching Shaft series and having the same VAs play characters in everything. So far though (mostly from Hidamari Sketch since that's one of my favorite anime) we're missing>Ryouko Shintani (Sae)>Yuuko Gotou (Hiro)>Misato Fukuen (Natsume)>Miyuki Sawashiro (The Landlady and Kanbaru from Monogatari)>Rie Kugimiya (Chika)
>>289002487Oh way, I forgot Yuuko Gotou plays Madoka's mom. And Ryouko Shintani plays Hitomi. So we're in better shape than I remembered.
Homura deserves a happy ending with Madoka after the hell they've gone through.
>>289000478Can't believe this ugly nerd is the final boss
...so while all these little girls are fighting among themselves, what is our favorite incubator going to do?
So they're really going all Evangelion mode for this film it seems.
NIGGA PICK UP THE PHONE
>>289002990How is any of this Evangelion?
>>289002990Nah, Eva is just "curing your depression and other psychological traumas"Madoka is "overcoming everything with the power of love"
>>289003105Just the imagery and overall presentation depicted.
>>288999136>Didn't Kamen Rider Ryuki have a somewhat similar plot?If you're talking about the ending, then it is 100% the textbook definition of a bittersweet ending. No real suffering/edginess to be found, but certainly not what you, the viewer, would ever consider a perfectly nice and happy ending.
>>289003587KRR is about a guy time looping over and over to save his sisterThe similarities are hard to ignore
>>288997814Imagine w/a/tching all of Madoka in a rowwho would do something like that
>>289003802Me every January.
>>288999755Watch Fancutfags (combined TV series and recap movies) and Rebellion
>>289003802I did it this week
>>289000315These days it's also without Keiko, unless this song was recorded before the Kalafina reunion.
>>289004022really?I didn't know that... I can live without Wakana or Hikaru but I can't live without my Keiko...
>>289004054Keiko and Hikaru were doing a Yuki Kajiura live tour while the Kalafina reunion was announced, they finished that tour business-as-usual and then immediately the two of them unfollowed all of Kajiura's social media accounts and vice versa and they haven't publicly interacted or even mentioned each other at all since then. The next Yuki Kajiura live tour didn't have them on and nobody explained or addressed this at all, they just weren't there as though this was the normal state of affairs now, and none of the Kalafina vocalists have been credited on any newly released FictionJunction tracks since then.
>come into thread expecting Madoka fanbase or at least Magia fanbase>get Precure fanbaseIt's like everyone left for /pmmm/. Where are all the OGs at?
>>289004309
>>289004294that's really bad...I knew about the "scandal" of the kalafina reunion and the singers not telling anything to Kajiura and all that but I didn't think it was this bad...I wonder what really happened between them
>>289002487How the fuck can you forget that Mizuhashi Kaori, her whole career is being on the Shaft paycheck.Miyako, Mami and Ougi, so fucking in personality as well.
>>289004468wasn't that anon naming the VAs that aren't already in the main cast?
>>289004382Before the reunion happened, there was speculation that Wakana and Kajiura/the other Kalafina vocalists were on good terms behind the scenes and their complete lack of public interaction was just a thing they were doing because Wakana's label didn't like Kajiura. I don't know if this speculation was ever based on anything more solid than copium but something like this could still explain the current situation. Alternatively, they're not on such good terms and they were only pretending for a while in order to finish their tour professionally.
>>289000478Wait, how do we know it's Maaya Sakamoto or is this just speculah?
>>289004468I was listing recurring Shaft VAs that we still needed in this series. Obviously Mami, Sayaka, Homura, and Nagisa are big Shaft VAs.
WnK will end with Madoka kissing Homura passionately as Homura lies dying
>>289005433Nah, Homura is the only character in the original who hasn't died yet, and it should stay that way.
>>289004054The girl that replaced Keiko is pretty good.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3iK51giqSv0
>>289001832>changedThey can be two different Homus for all we know.
>>289004664>he doesn't have the mental audio of seiyuu recorded in his brainNGMI
>>289005592yeah, she's good but she's not Keiko...that song was made for Keiko and Keiko alone...
>>288995572AAAAHHHHHHH!!!! it looks so gooooooddddd!!!
>>289005878
>>289005433There will never be any yuricoal in this series and that's a good thing
>>289000355No expectations at all. Like, we can speculate all we want and enjoy the discussions, but at the end, I prefer to have nothing in my mind as expectations. I choose to get surprised.
As long as the ending just doesn't erase Rebellion out of existence, I will be happy
I'm just wondering how Kaiten will matter at all thematically in context of Rebellion. If it just outright reverses it and rejects everything from it, it will be shit, but what else could it even do at this point?
>>289005433Having it be the opposite would be more interestingAlso, I want Homura to live forever so she can't die
>>288999851Be sure to Actually ready Comireco >>288997737Cannot wait to roll gonna be fun
what is rebellion saying anyway
>>289006650fanfiction sucks
>>289006650It is good to end the torment of those who have made sacrifices so that you could still be alive today
>>288995572Looks different, too bright or something.I guess they went with the heaven theme after all.
Chances Kriemhild gretchen shows up?
It's a movie, so screen time is already limited. Why are they wasting time on the MagiReco OC Donut Steel nonsense?
>>289006827That sounds amazing. I cannot wait to roll them all.
>>289006650That Homura would rather suffer herself than watch Madoka suffer.
>>289006827those aren't magireco characters
>>289006878The point stands either way. What good is cast bloat in what is likely the final movie of the franchise?
>>289006900It is the start of a new chapter most likely continued in Exedra.
>>289006921So all the characters that we have come to like over the years are going to get shafted, get less screen time in their last movie, so random OCs can get developed and marketed?
>>289006900they already said it's not the end of the franchise
>>289006827>>289006900Antagonists are necessary
>>289006943Sounds like a plan
So WHO is SHE anyway?
>>289006949Then my hopes for the movie just hit rock bottom.>>289006954>Antagonists are necessaryEntropy, witches and Kyuubey already had that covered.
>>289006997Explain how you would write a sequel to Rebellion where the main antagonist was entropy
>>289006970The hottest girl from this whole franchise. That's what she is.
>>289006997kyubey being the antagonist again would be retarded, he already got gaped
At this point I think outside of Homura and Madoka, finding out whoever the fuck this is, is easily what I'm most excited forAlso, I think we probably are going to see a minimum of 4 new girls, 3 of which we've already seen. The 3 we have will be important, but the others probably won't be, and will only exist to show that Homura has been turning girls into Meguca's without soulgems. I guess she could be one but her design fucking screams that there is more going on with her
>>289007015Something like Homura's witch version of the universe can't create enough energy to sustain the universe itself and everything is gradually dying. The only way to fix it would be to have Madoka's Law of Cycles take over again, but obviously Homura doesn't want that. The main goal of the story would be to race against the clock and have Homura find a way to make more energy for the universe without sacrificing Madoka. >>289007034You do realize that Kyuubey himself isn't the actual enemy, right? It was his entire race of beings, and entropy itself. The Incubators were just cold and heartless about trying to get energy for the universe any way they could.
>>289006970(You)
>>289003104I don't want to become meguca
I don't want Homura to die
https://youtu.be/Ykl__t3F1hM
>>289007073Nips are fast are drawing I see
>>289007292>open video>just watch it because I know JapaneseAnother win for non-retardGODS.
>Kaiten gives us another controversial open ending with teases of a sequel How would you react, /a/? I'd be furious. I don't want to wait 20 years for a proper conclusion to Rebellion.
>>289007379>Vegeta and Nappa falls from the sky and procs to one shot Homura - the plot. >>289007379You know they said it's a start of a new story right? The chance of it being a triology is very high.
>>289007379I'd rather we get a 'end of original EVA' style phycological mindfuck non-ending focused on Homura, Sayaka and MadokaIt would be more kino
>>289007073She dont look bad but the fact that she looks too much like a fusion of Moemura with Mami ruin for me her menacing or villain "feel" she should have. I can't see her as villian if seeing her instantly make come to my mind 2 of the most endearing good girls.
>>289007379wouldn't really care, rebellion was already a fine ending
lol
>>289007507We noticed this back in the teaser trailers. I wonder if it actually means something. Did Ume-sensei do the new girls and costume designs?
>>289007473Is there any reason to even believe she will be an antagonist? If she is just one of the girls Homura contracted, than she is clearly on the good (Homu) side.
Gretchen and Homucifer should destroy the universe together
So this movie is going to have a bunch of crap from the Gacha shit game in it? A load of garbage from the spin-off games, LNs, and manga?
>>289007596no?
>>289007596No
>>289007565>Is there any reason to even believe she will be an antagonist?Movie still have surprises we can't be sure of anything yet. I hope that with her aspect she is in the good side actually.I was thinking of those theories that she could be kyubey or walpurgis. I hope is not true.
>>289007596The Wraiths seemed to have been redesigned to be more similar to Uwasas aesthetically, plus the Rumor of Lizard Phone seeming to be very inspired too. But it's only that from what I could see so far. So, just Doroinu taking what he liked and putting it on the movie. Nothing to worry much about.
ClariS are making the ED, right?
>>289007666>plus the Rumor of Lizard Phone seeming to be very inspired tooIt's probably the other way around with how long the script for Kaiten has been in done forHonestly, I wonder when Kaiten actually started production anyway considering the fact that the script has been done for 12 years at this point.
>>289007645>I hope is not true.I think Kyubey is pretty likely at this point
Why are the translations of Kaiten so ass?I've seen shit like Tide of Walpurgisnacht (did they shorten turning the tide) or Walpurgisnacht: Rising.Isn't the best way to translate 廻天 something like Revolution instead?From the kanji it literally means turn heaven, or changing the world.
>>289007715I remember chiwa saito talking about getting into practice for the different homura voices at an event like ten years ago
>>289007743they should've stuck with walpurgisnacht rising revengeance
>>289007715Could be. Urobucchi said he wrote the script between Kamen Rider Gaim and Thunderbolt Fantasy (around the time Concept movie came out). And Magireco was made with the intend of filling the gap between the movie release, according Iwakami. Still. Doroinu changed the Wraiths designs to be more like Uwasas, probably due to his experience with Magireco itself. >>289007755Huh. Didn't know that.
Homura must die
I want more than Homura just being taken away by Madoka. That ending feels so hollow. It needs more
>>289007743I still can't understand why they didnt show this trailer with eng translation at the same time. In the gacha is different. In Exedra new content and stories they leave very few parts without english translation. Almost all dialogs are translated to english at the same time they release the JP version.
Madoka will forgive and purify Homura for her gay crimes. Killing her in the process.
>>289007743'Walpurgisnacht: Requiem' would've somehow been more descriptive and inline with the Kanji. I find that funny
>>289007755Interesting. I definitely feel like Kaiten's production was put on hold for a number of years at one or another.Maybe in the better timeline we would be getting the 6th movie by now, or maybe that would be the worse timeline
>>289007854Oriko...
>>288995572Reminder the devil is the good guy in this movie.
What is Homura trying to say here?
>>289008005i am beginning to suspect that homura may not think very highly of herself
>>288997518I wish, but I'm not holding out any hope...
>>289007884Because it has the release date in it and it's not releasing on that date in the US. They will probably use this same trailer to hype up the movie for the international release whenever that is, and then we'll get official subs.
>>289007743I mean Rising is fine, a Rising is a Revolution after all
>>288997518I'm hoping anons will go to see the movie together like they did for the recaps and Rebellion.
How much copium do you need to think Homerun will end alive?
>>288998713You should watch Rebellion before Kaiten comes out. You'll never be able to experience Rebellion being the last movie in the franchise ever again, you know?>>289000355I have no idea what's gonna happen and I can't wait to find out 5 years from now when it comes out
>>289008155Too much jaded old men in madoka threads lately. If some anons do it i hope they have good time and find nice anons.
why do some people hate rebellion?
>>289007596Damn that sounds amazing. Can't wait to see Iroha.
>>289008316low IQ
>>289007596We need all that and more. More gacha
>>289008272I think it's hard to organize unless it's made as retard friendly as possible.
>>289007854
So why is Nagisa giving Mami and I think Sayaka and Kyouko a pole strip show in that other trailer?
>>289008449mami is a terrible influence on her
Walpurgis = Homura confirmed>>289000478Anon they showed Kyuubey in those same glasses seconds later
>>289008449Mami made her do that in exchange for cheese.(She won’t feed her anything else, it’s not because she likes it.)
>>289008626Mami feeds anons her milk.
>>288998713Rebellion is the best part of the series but it'll take you 3+ viewings to realize it.
>>288997327I thought law of cycles was still around, unless law of cycles without madoka becomes walpurgisnacht or something
>>288997403Is Homu wearing thighhighs with her school uniform now?
>>288998077More Nagisa!
>>289008885
>>289009118ruined ruined RUINED
>>289009118Slut!
>>289000478Cutie!
>>289009260>Countdown begins It's real, no more delay.
>Find suspicious looking phone>For no reason at all you feel like spilling your guts to that phone>Rant to the phone for hours>Finally say the magic words>I WISH TO BE A SHE-DEVIL'S PET AND SLAVE UOOOOOOOOOHHHHH!>Click>You are never seen again
>>289000478>>289000636>Moemura with a non-flat chestSo this is the one that Homuhomu has a 0-10 matchup with?>Homu beats Madoka>Madoka beats Walmart Night>Walmart absolutely destroys HomuAn interesting game of janken they have there.
>>289009260>60 days until they release the sequel I've waited 13 years forMy body can never be ready. How long can we expect to wait for a camrip, based on other recent big releases?
>>289008272>>289008409The guy who does the rewatch could probably set it up
>>289008795It was at the end of Rebellion.Seems to have been retconned
>>289009743>How long can we expect to wait for a camrip, based on other recent big releases?1 week absolute max for us to have the film rip'd and subbed into English2 weeks to have a non-dogshit sub
>>289009916Rebellion was pretty damn unclear how Homu's new universe works. There seems to be a LoC but it also seems to be unstable without Madoka to support it. We also don't know what the end fate of megucas is in the new world.
>>289009260YAy
She deserves happiness
Doing a group watch of Kaiten could be fun
Homura is the most human character in this showI hope we see her smiling at the end
>>289010189I mean, sure, she could use a break after 12 years of suffering. But she is now a 26 year old lesbian lolicon trying to keep the girl she's obsessed with "safe" in her basement.
>>289010344And that's why we love her
It almost doesn't feel realHaving this film so close to releaseFuck, what if it isn't the ending?
>>289010364Indeed.
Sayaka is the most human character in this show.I hope we see her smiling at the end.
>>289010386Group suicide meet-up.
What if it ends with a 'real' meguca heaven being created by Homura and Madoka? Wouldn't that be nice?
I watched the anime and really liked the ending, it was solid and tied everything together, should I watch the movies?
>>289010595Rebellion is very good, though I recommend waiting a bit to let the series settle before watching it. It's very different from the series theme and storytelling-wise.
>>288995572>>288997518>>289009455No info on international release
>>289009470The lizard does not care for males, only Madoka
>>289010595You should read all of the core side story material first
>>289010595Rebellion is a masterpiece you need to watch at least twice
>>288999398>Urobutcher and Nips in general never do nihilistic endings>the dude who made Saya no uta doesnt do nihilistic endings...>Rebellion is not a nihilistic ending.are you high?
>>289010762All of Madoka should be watched at least twice honestlyit's incredibly rewarding on the second or even third watch. Like, your first viewing is child's play compared to the others in terms of what you pick up on.
>>289010789>Rebellion is not a nihilistic ending.This is true though. Uro has been nice with Madoka, relatively speaking
>>289010754This is her now, feel old yet.
>>289002487Miyuki Sawashiro was hired to play Princess Eliza from Tart.Kugyuu is the Nazi Loli in MagiReco.>>289002271MagiTeco tier kino
>>289010789Only the bad end of Saya is nihilistic though
>>289009904Set it up how? Movie isn't on Blu-Ray for at least a year after being shown in theaters.
>>289010789Both Saya(true ending) and Rebellion ended with their MCs finding world changing meaning in their lives, a nihilistic ending is something like Texhnolyze or certain depression era Tomino; Urobutcher's noteriety comes from so many of his characters having meaningful deaths.
>>289011120Camrip
Kinda sick of this story. I've only seen the TV anime but it felt like a self contained story. I'm not sure why there are so many entries in the series.
>>289011162Go watch it in person instead.
I wonder how salvation can be achieved for both Madoka and Homura
>>289011177>I'm not sure why there are so many entries in the series.It's popular, and even then there really isn't.There's 1 cour of TV anime and 1 movie worth of meguca that actually exists.
>>289011177Because retards eat it up.
>>289011197The show was about God. The movie was about the Devil. This movie will be about Man. They will both fuck off into the unknown while the megucas stop relying on alien bullshit and take their destiny into their own hands.
I honestly don't the screen format choice. Shaft should've used the usual 16:9 format.
>>288995572Just two months left!
>>289010344Just imagine the sex
She is fucking beautiful
So which of the new girls is the best? Selma, Lilac or the one without a name?
>>289011383Lilac is very likely Chinese so that means...
>>289011371I miss her good old design.
>>289011355Very clingy sex
>>288995572>that shot of Homu flipping upside downKino.
Her eyes are beautiful
>>289011833She literally looks like Utena in this frame. I'm not the only one who is seeing this right?
I want to rewatch this with my gf. How do the 1st 2 movies compare to the series. Any major differences?
>>289011921It has better visuals but also has a few parts cut out. Personally I think the series is the ideal way to watch the story. There's also the fancutfags version that combines the series and movie visuals together, if your gf doesn't mind "fancutfags" showing up as a logo in the start and the kind of spoilerish movie OP showing at the beginning too.
>My predictionWalpurgis is the leftover part of the law of cycles. After Homura split Madokami into two the law of cycles was supposed to still exist. But it doesn't because the other two new characters turned it into a human girl just like Homura did with Madoka. Thus the very thing that was supposed to be the salvation of magical girls is now their greatest curse.I'm positive this is what the movie will be about.Gretchen is the witch form of Madoka.Walpurgis is the witch form of the Law of Cycles.
>>289000355I just want a conclusive end to this to finish my decade long sufferingand a happy ending to Mami if possible
>>289011701Same>>289011715As it should be
>>289011861Yeah, I guess I can see it
If the trailers are hiding most everything from the later parts of the movie, I wonder if that means MadoKami will show up midway through.It's weird that we have seen her, and Madoka's old design, but not her new one in any of the actual trailers
I want to avoid as much spoilers as possible but I don't want to leave this site. What I am supposed to do after the release?
>>289011177whatever godevil unleashed the gacha curse unto the world a decade ago
>>289010595rebellion unmakes the ending
>>289012316Love it. Thanks to Rebellion we got MagiReco.
>>289002135>>288997775>>288997924This would be retarded because madoka is already meant to be foil to\ look like kyuubei
>>289012262>What I am supposed to do after the release?Either go into hiding for multiple months or refuse to read anything you see here until you see a camrip getting linked
who am I supposed to curse if it goes wrong, Uro?With eva it was easy. I remember the "I'm flying to japan to stab Anno on the balls" posts
>>289012448>who am I supposed to curse if it goes wrong, Uro?If the movie's plot is bad than yes, who else could you blame?
>>289012465random shaft executives committee
>>289010344>lesbianThat’s you though.
>>289007916Why does this faggot love to project on pmmm characters so much lmao
What if she's both Walpurgisnacht AND Kyuubey?
>>289012549Why would she be kyubey
>>289012567Because we see Kyubey where she is with her glasses and bow
What do we call her?
>>289012611Tomoe the Grey
Save her, Madoka
>>289012611Walpurgis-chan.
Yes, yes, meganekko, very important... https://youtu.be/ZvQpe78Npoc
I hope we will have a cam rip of it available within a week of it being out in Japan
>>289012611Doesn’t she already have a name?
I wonder what Madoka will think of everything that Homura did
>>288995572I haven't watched a single one of these and I'm never going to. It'll be out when/if it's out. Otherwise it ended with Rebellion, and I'm fine with that.
You now remember that ClariS made a new Madoka song last yearhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYw9uGN0ePI
>>289012923>Doesn’t she already have a name?Unless she's meant to be Walp, or even somehow Kyubey, no
Does anyone care about her? Selma and the other one both get way more love and fan art from what I've seen
>>289012953Same
>>289000636>New character introduced out of nowhere>Long delayed 4th film in the franchise>Red megane>Big boobs>Steals the main heroine's weapon>Voiced by Maaya SakamotoI-It can't be
>>289012611Nameless Meguca.Or Name/Namae.
>>289013281It's fucking happening! and I’m all for it
>>289013281Who's the Asuka and who's the Shinji out of Madoka and Homura?
>>289013281history repeats itself; once as a tragedy and twice as a comedy
>>288998713Only End of Evangelion, the rebuilds are shit.
Madoka will be forced to choose being the law of cycles or saving HomuraShe won't be able to save Homura
>>289013663Kyouko and Homura respectively
>>289013003She is obviously walp
>>289013843Sweet. Sayaka wins the Madobowl.
Shipping shitposting is painfully unfunny
God will let me live just a little bit before the screening of the real conclusion with the 6th movie in 2045 just to teach me a lesson
Then why don't you post your own discussion points instead of caring about what other people ship? It's the Internet you can't police what people posts, deal with it bro.
>>289013876>Final shot of Kaiten is adult Walp-chan and Homura running up the stairs together
>>289013755True, but we are in a Madoka thread btw
Walpurgis is Homura, they show her inverting
I still hope some crazy shit happens that no one will expect
its been like 14 years since the movie, I have lost interest a long long time ago.
>>289013999This is 100% going to happen considering the average level of speculah nowadays
>>289013941Walp kekking god. You know you love to see it.
>>289000355I honestly believe Sakuyas face is fucked up a la Harvey dent but she is focusing on being a hero. She probably has a witch powers
I don't want to see Homura alone by the end of thisIf she has to die, let Madoka die alongside her. If she has to live, let Madoka live too. If she must become a concept, let Madoka become a concept again as well.Whatever happens, please just don't let Homura go through it alone.
>>289014084Sayaka. Holy shit fuck autocorrect
>>289014085unlikely to have that ending she would like to without paying for her deeds
>>288998713No but may as well, Rebellion fucked everything up do not listen to anon saying otherwise.
>Sorry, but Madoka Magica the Movie -Walpurgisnacht: Rising- will be delayed until 2027, February.
Homura needs happiness
>>289014347I think they'll go through with it this time, but I wouldn't be surprised if we get a cliffhanger ending and a>to be continued in Madoka Magica Walpurgisnacht Rising Pt II - Coming Summer 2027 (actually summer 2030)
>>289014355Maybe she should stop wanting things that require the breaking of the universe, then.
>>289012120This is so much worse than homura being walmartnight. What trash did they throw into this thing that they needed a new set of girls to resolve this? >>289012611W*******night-chan
>>289014106>>289014449Everything homura did was something madoka also did.
>>289014490People hate acknowledging this, but it's completely true.I doubt Kaiten will mention it though, although if it does it will automatically be as good as Rebellion
I want Homura to go through a baptism by fire for her love.She can be happy with Madoka forever, but she first has to go through absolute hell during this film
>>289014524>>289014490When did Madoka attempt to murder another meguca, intentionally rewrite her friends' memories, and deny her best friend from fulfilling her deepest wish?
>>289014706She quite literally did the latter.
>>289014706>When did Madoka attempt to murder another megucaEpisode 10. Mami, timeline 3>Intentionally rewrite her friends' memoriesEpisode 12, when she became the LoC>and deny her best friend from fulfilling her deepest wish?Episode 12, when she became the LoC
>>289014706>>289014749She did 2/3 of those, actually.
YOUR FRANCHISE IS DEAD MADOTARD
>>289014820Still het though
>>289014769>>289014749The whole point in becoming the LoC was to respect the wishes of her felow megucas instead of taking choice away from them entirely. She straight up says as much to Sayaka during the Ave Maria scene. Madokami respects free will while Akuma Homura tries to turn everyone into puppets.
>>289000959>you have waited a decade for the ending of Meguca>www it's actually another cliffhanger which might be resolved in yet another decadeShaft is not mad enough to do this, right?
>>289012611I hope she's on Homura's side throughout the entire filmHomura needs someone who's always by her side
>>289014992>Homura: "I wish to protect Madoka from suffering">Madoka: "I wish to suffer eternal loneliness and make it impossible for Homura to protect me from that suffering. Respectfully of course"
only kyubei can save all the megucas from suffering now
Is there any point in trying to go through Scene 0? Is it at least so bad it's good, or is it just bad, bad?
>>289015068Yes. That's how free will works.
>>289015114It’s entertaining. You get to see how previous timelines went, more content with the canon characters.It’s long and kind of tedious to go through in its current form though. Anime when?
>>289015156Homura deciding to keep protecting Madoka despite that is also how free will works
>>289014769Mami killed Kyouko and was gonna kill HomuraOther people losing memory of her is a side effect of becoming the LoCHomura's wish was only for the sake of Madoka, forgoing the world.Comparing the moral "greyness" of Madoka vs Homura is such a fucking joke. Homura is clearly a morally grey character, Madoka is not. You don't have to put Madoka down to make Homura look good, she's already a legendary character in this medium.
who the fuck are these new bitches, do I have to watch that sidestory bullshit now?
>>289013936Autistic anons come here to get mad at things they dislike. They can't help themselves.
>>289015220Yes.
>>289015317motherfuckeroh well at least I'll have context for those mami futa mind control doujins now
>>289015219>Homura is clearly a morally grey character, Madoka is not.Both aren't>>289015220No
>>289015220>>289015342You don't actually have to watch the side story bullshit (I hope).
>>289015220>do I have to watch that sidestory bullshit now?No. They are new bitches.
>>289015219Madoka is actually morally much worse than homura though she overcame the lie she believed to some extent she still is nothing more than a martyr fighting over the role with her lover or friend depending on you own incorrect interpretations Homura on the other hand is a creature crafted like clay by homuras hands, even her mission is just a request madoka made to her, and when madoka asked she abandoned that mission and was left alone. Taking madokas hands was the only thing she ever did for herself and she immediately hated herself for it. I think loc sayaka and gold ribbon madoka are extremely out of character after homura rewrites the world. Sayaka should be able to understand homura since she called attention to that in the labyrinth, and i dont think madoka gave her real opinion in the hallway but ooc or at best the one she thinks shes supposed to give>>289014706She did all of those>>289015068I believe in madoka who really does respect that open window after episode 12s closed door but i suspect no one left on the team writing waluigi night rising gave a fuck
This zoomer phenomenon of pretending Madoka was wrong or not virtuous is getting irksome. You faggots are going too hard into the other direction just because Rebellion wanted to be a bit more subversive.
>>289015391she was wrong for leaving homura alive
I'm pretty sure some of the Kamihama crew is going to show up in this. With Magia Record and Exedra featuring them most fans of the series should be at least a little bit familiar with them.
>>289015380Anon, not even your suicidal femcel lesbian waifu believes this.
>>289015391>Madoka was wrongShe was but that isn't her fault. She couldn't have known how much Homura cared about her, and about what Kyubey would do in Rebellion
>>289015380>and gold ribbon madoka are extremely out of character after homura rewrites the world.Madoka has no fucking idea what's going on by this point. I don't think it's right to blame a version of her that knows nothing on anything. If Madoka remembered Homura she would've reacted to her differently
>>289015520>Anon, not even your suicidal femcel lesbian waifu believes this.Not a good argumentReal soldiers of Homura will defend her even when she refuses to defend herself
>>289015400>>289015552It was Homura's fault that Kyubey learned about the LoC anyways. Madoka's only wrongdoing was trusting that Homura had the mental fortitude to not fuck things up.
If this is the finale, it’ll be shit. Most jap finales are pure trash.
>>289015391Almost 40 and a huge madokafag. Do not bother keeping up this larp unless you have spent at least 500 hours imagining madoka centric stories. Most madoka magicafaggots are all gung ho about anyone but her. >>289015520I was going to post smugdoka but since you asked i will post her real opinion on herself
>>289015694>Most madoka magicafaggots are all gung ho about anyone but her.Sad but trueThere's barely any fics that focus on her that also recognize that she kinda hates herself.
>>289015694Madoka isn't the most popular character in this series, but the whole "Madoka was wrong" shit is a recent phenomenon. These are 2 different things anon.
>>289015694Madoka is just a shy girl with low self-esteem, totally different from Homura trying to kill herself multiple times. And as the flashbacks show, the reason Madoka is so unsure of herself is because Homura keeps stopping her from realizing her full potential as a meguca.t. Kyokochad who knows his girl is going to get screwed over in this movie but can offer an objective assessment
>>289015593>Madoka's only wrongdoing was trusting that Homura had the mental fortitude to not fuck things up.Why would she assume that considering that Homura had 100 FUCKING chances to save her and FAILED EVERY ONE OF THEM.Homura was going to fuck it up, Madoka should've understood that and planned accordingly
What is to be done with her? This creature of Kyubian flesh and Homurian spirit. What is to be done with her?
>>289015575I agree on paper but this is a stage play so it indicates the writer fucked up somewhere>>289015690This is another reason to be wary. Even the ending of madokas anime is flawed since it basically demands a narrative reset every time. Due to the lack of any inucurry art not any other reason>>289015748I didn't say shes wrong, I said shes morally worse than homura. Shes the one with the most agency and the entire anime is a crucible for her learning to understand and wield it instead of just grab it like a leaver. She then goes on to do to everyone what her family did to her.maybe more important than all of that is that she isn't capable of rejecting things, madoka is too accepting. Contracts, her friends anger, her families situation. Every time she rejects something she is overcoming herself correctly.>>289015755why are kyoukofags always this stupid?
>Madoka is morally worse than HomuraI'm out. Get the fuck back to trannycord / leldit or wherever the fuck your kind comes from
>>289015899>Madoka is morally worse than HomuraEither both are evil or both are good. Morally speaking they are not very different to each other, ultimately they both want to harm themselves so that those they care about can no longer suffer
>>289015944Madoka does it for more than just 1 person unlike Homura, even if Homura does care about others deep down.
Why is Madoka the only girl we refer to with her first name? No one does this for Homura or Sayaka
>>289015899Are you that tripple nigger that seethes at everything with llm spam? Or one of those retards in the archives who try to summon shit posters so they can make out with them?>>289015944But one didn't make the other. Madoka sent homura on her journey by valuing herself so little. She begged homura to keep going down that twisted path for her. But truthfully none of that pisses me off more than people who think of her as forthright and honest. Shes manipulative. Her character song is literally about social engineering her friends to think shes fine. >>289015983Its that cancerous empathy and self important martyrism that creates the most wicked witch the world has ever seen. It grows out of control and swallows the world as its merciless savior. This is the level of witch madokas desires create. i used to think homura was wataburger night but it turns out walla walla night isn't her witch after rebellion>>289016013Are you retarded?Homura sayaka madoka kyouko and mami are all given names not family names.
>>289016054>Shes manipulativeShe's 14 and is either way, way over her head, or passively suicidal, depending on the timeline.Cut her some slack, it's what Homura would want you to do
Both are morally good
>>289015391I’m not even doing that. I’m giving you Homura’s perspective.The morality in this show is all about perspectives. Even Kyubey isn’t an absolute evil. And even the most well-meaning meguca eventually turns into an evil witch.
>>289015520>suicidal femcel lesbianBut enough about you, larper
>>289016013Westerners are very, very stupid when it comes to Japanese names in general.
>>289016013What?
>>289016138I spend lots of time trying to imagine how she would behave for story theory crafting so no i am going to measure her correctly.If your hero doesn't have flaws they cannot be cool. It's why they don't write any fics with her They can't find her edge and don't know which direction of the window???? deer eye does the cutting.
Homura is basically Darth Vader at this point and whilst she might be redeemed, she will have to die for her sins. Infact in the original timeline she's already dead the LoC came for her so she's going to be dead at the end of Kaiten either way.
>>289016399I want to hear more about why you think of her as a manipulative person. I'm genuinely interestedI don't think I've ever seen someone go as far as calling her that. I've seen people say that she was manipulative when she asked Homura to save, but I doubt that she assumed that Homura would spend the next decade+ doing so
>>289016054>Its that cancerous empathyHow is her empathy cancerous? Everyone, even Homura, has benefited time and time again because of how much she cares for those around her. At most it's self destructive, but I don't think it's the main reason for Madoka's self destructive tendencies anyway.
>>289016582You can't reason with diehard Homurafags. They're literal Satan worshippers.>>289016545If any megucas are manipulative it's Mami and Kyoko. Madoka is too empathetic, Sayaka is too much of a moralfag and Homura is too autistic to read a room.
>>289016639>You can't reason with diehard HomurafagsI'm a diehard HomurafagI just recognize that blaming Madoka's self hatred on the fact she cares about people is stupid when it clearly comes from the fact she doesn't care about herself.
>>288995572Sayaka sexo
>>289016545Madoka is in a household that is similar to the magical girl system. Junko dies every night being a girlboss but pretends to like this life style even though we are given a very clear image of it negatively affecting her greatly and estranging her from her child, who she relies on to put herself together and keep going. Its mirrored in her own words which are a condemnation of herself. The more she tries to do things correctly: be a girlboss. Bring home bacon for her family, support her daughter in what little time she has left. But its not enough time. Thats the zero state of her family and the origin of madokas ending as madokami and image song. Shes someone who is floating in a sea of white lies. But as we continue into the story we see how even white lies arent so white in the end. You bring up guilting homura into the mission but i really dont think thats the best example even in that scene. Madoka basically lies to homuras face under extreme emotional distress, engineers homura to get her talking and distracted, and immediately pounces on her with the grief seed when she spots her opening. The scene opens with their arms already in that position but i don't doubt that she was primarily responsible for it.>>289016582You said it yourself, it's self destructive. Thats what cancer is. rampant growth that results in death. The more madoka learns the greater that desire becomes. Unless she can use her noggin before her emotions she cannot defeat kyuubei. Thats literally the entire through line of the anime you know?>>289016639Seething llm nigger that cant remember which megucafag I am it seems >>289016682Nobody is saying that
>>289015380>but i suspect no one left on the team writing waluigi night rising gave a fuckthe movie we're getting is the script written soon after Rebellion.
>>289016754>but i really dont think thats the best example even in that sceneSomewhat unrelated, but do you have any other good examples of Madoka being manipulative outside of episode 10?Also, how do you think Madoka's manipulative nature will be handled in Kaiten?
>>288995572I hope Homu dies
>>289016805Supposedly. the synopsis shows that the plan is to just shit on homura though>>289016826I doubt it will be addressed at all. >other than episode 10Basically any time madoka is on screen while something negative is happening she is trying to control through her empathy where possible. I don't see why you are asking me for even more. This is a 12 episode anime with 5 major characters and the examples i gave involving her family and homura are by far the most exemplary in how madoka uses her social skills and deciet to get her results. If you really want more then the scene with her mom is an easy one. She even complains about how withdrawn she is just before it, and engineers her mom into a situation of trust despite telling her nothing.this character is meant to be a foil for kyuubei by the way. Shes everything he is and isnt at the same time. Kyuubei himself is a representation of buddhist like apathy to contrast madokas powerful empathy. They both use similar methods though.
>withdrawn madoka isRather
>>289017001>the synopsis shows that the plan is to just shit on homura thoughIt seems pretty clear to me that Homura will be the main character again. She will suffer, as she should, but she will end the movie being happy with Madoka
>>289017142I want madoka to be the mc again. Anyway this seems more like sayaka and homura play punishment games while meduka burger may cry edition tries to solo the autists trying to kill her unfaithful cosmic wife. Presumably with no powers once again and an even worse dress.
Surprisingly good thread after the shit show that the last 2 were
>>289017225Sounds kino unironically
>>289017001>her mom is an easy one. She even complains about how withdrawn she is just before it, and engineers her mom into a situation of trust despite telling her nothing.Eeeh, I wouldn't consider that one to be valid. It's just a child being a child, their parasitic urges are normal and natural. Most, if not all kids demand as much from their parents as possible because that's what they're born to do; she'll grow out of it one day.I don't think she has much in common with QB before she ascends, but they are indeed opposites in a lot of ways. A good chunk of Madoka's decisions are made in search of relief from guilt and misery, such as when QB almost succeeded in getting her to contract for Sayaka's sake (before being promptly shot by Homu).Madoka decides what's right based on what "feels right", or by taking in information from someone she considers to be wiser than her. QB couldn't care less about even his own needs, and has no interest in what doesn't provide perceivable benefit from others. You could say their mutual search for benefit is something they have in common, but then again, nearly every other character does that sort of thing as well. It's far from exclusive to these two.Sayaka wants cock, Mami wanted to live (and friends), Kyouko wants food and papa, yada yada. No character except for one is fully selfless because absolute selflessness doesn't exist.Madoka only ends up becoming more "QB-like" post-Kamification; Madokami's wish was mostly practical and created a much healthier environment for the average magical girl, not to mention her now eternal existence's continuous efforts until the universe dies out.There's nothing to gain from this mess, and yet she does it either way, because she no longer considered her personal feelings to be a priority. The only example of absolute selflessness is the character that stops being human and becomes a concept, because no human is fully selfless.
>>289003978Does it make a big difference?
>>289011968>if your gf doesn't mind "fancutfags" showing up as a logo in the startThat's not in the files you get when you download it, it's just a stream thing.
>>289017926It's basically just higher budget visuals, unless you use the movie OST version where you also get some of the movie OST.
>>289018432I kinda like the old visuals though, but I guess fights are better right? Hmmm, not sure, whether I should go with "intended" for that 2011 look or with fancutfags one.
>>288995572I don't like this trailer because it doesn't have naked muscular men like the last one.
madokanon is my favorite lolcow
