>tries defies god>backfires>tries to defy god again>backfires>tries to defy god again>backfiresAt least we got 3 minutes of monologue lecturing the us how war is an endless cycle of hatred and how, paradoxically, the desire for peace fuels war.
>>289004170I haven't read the LN's but isn't Tanya's point that Being X isn't actually God? It's more that she doesn't want to bend the knee as a social Darwinist rather than being proven right.She could've avoided all that suffering if she didn't try to argument with a being capable of stopping time.
>>289004240nah its god, but he tipped his fedora and declared to be too enlightened to believe in god, therefore he isn't, such is the nip edgelord.
>>289004170God is clearly the loser here if they can't get 1 guy to cave.
>>289004676tanya's just gods pet project
>>289004742whatever lets good sleep at night.
>>289004170>finally gives in to coercion and worships god>wins at the cost of integrityIs this a good lesson? It feels bad, man.
>>289004626>nah its godHow would you know?
Being X should have made Tanya incontinent and have to wear diapers, that would have really punished and tormented her
>>289007221He briefly did, then she grew up.
>>289004240Being X is confirmed to not just be God, but every single divine figure. The idea that he "isn't God" has no basis, he fits every definition of one with control over afterlives, the physical world, and people's thoughts all being among his powers.The only argument you could make is that he didn't create the universe(s), but that still puts him on a level more powerful than Zeus and most other Gods.
>>289004914I think it's a symptom of modernity and the worship of self that we think there's something intrinsically wrong, even immoral, and humiliating about bending the knee to someone superior to ourselves. This is an inversion of truth. It is actually correct, moral, and encouraging to acknowledge and respect someone as our better. This can be tricky when it's a matter between humans, but it should be a no-brainer between a human and God. That's why Pride is the most destructive sin. It convinces you that there's any merit in rebelling against something when there's really not.
I watched it recently and didn't really get what Sonzai X's whole deal was. Why is god obsessed with bullying this one atheist in particular?
>>289004170Tanya is a transsexual fedora tipping atheist and people watch this isekai slop?
>>289007471OK then make her incontinent as a little girl, and also make Serb have bigger boobs and maternal instinct, and she's the one who has to clean her bottom, and also she has a mighty need to breastfeed her. God that would be so hot.
>>289008845>>289007221
>>289007851sonzai ekkusu is just bored. bored gods make good tools to explain why something is happening despite it being impossible to happen. A god/wizard/fairy/ninja did it.
>>289009053Seems pretty petty and not worthy of praise regardless of how powerful he is honestly.
>>289007865How can xe be an atheist when xe has literally seen G-d?
>>289009073we don't even know if being x is actually god
>>289009083it is definitely a god, even if it might not be the jewish god yahwe that westoids worship.
>>289009083Actually we know that being x is NOT actually god because god isn't real
>>289004170Tanya's judgement doesn't make senseAs far as God's judgement is concerned, he/she ought to be in hell right nowNot because she is an atheistBut because she is "lukewarm"This is something made completely blatant in the show and LN. Tanya is a complete bootlicker. She regularly makes compromises for the sake of the system and has no qualms with lying just for the sake of obtaining a result that she prefersTwisting the truth is a problem that everyone has, but what damns the lukewarm is their inability to feel guilt about it. In fact, they actually view this "twisting of truth" as "cleverness"Being lukewarm is the sin that horrifies heaven the most as it is like candle that just wouldn't light upA candle that wouldn't light up is useless.It does nothing but consume space and must be thrown away
>>289009238You're falling for Sonzai X's lie about being God.
>>289007808Well-articulated, anon.
X is Yaldabaoth the Demiurge.
we can argue all about whether sonzai x is god or not, but he is very clearly not the christian god. not omniscient, not omnibenevolent, doesnt send people to hell and heaven but uses reincarnation instead, operates in multiple alternate realities/timelines...
Tanya in kindergarten uniforn
>>289004626To be fair misotheism is pretty cool. Real Emperor Of Mankind shit
>>289010773true
>everyone says how great this show it>give it a try>"muh god">close mpv>delete the folder
>>289004240Being X not being God is the dumbest shit ever.He is>Petty>Powerful>Spiteful>Wrathful >Omnipotent.Seriously he has all the attributes of the conventional god.Tanya is basically the book of job on steroids.>I'm siding with the devil to kill your family so you worship me.>I'm transporting you to an eternal warworld and give you powers when you pretend to worship me, so you worship me.If you told me this was in the Bible I'll believe it.
>>289011115Imagine hypnotizing her to become kindergarten-brained while she's in the uniform haha
>>289010834Cameltoe isnt tight enough for a strike witch.
>>289011270petty and spiteful are not exactly the same but similar enough to be redundant, and omnipotent literally overwrites powerful. you should reread your post before hitting submit
not to mention he isn't omnipotent...
>>289004170Imagine taking the social commentary and story of AGP crap like this seriously
>>289011363He is he can communicate without even being there, and stop time.
>>289011394he can't even understand how humans think, he says he is tired from doing his work, etcidk why i'm replying when you've proven yourself retarded...
>>289011427Understanding humans isn't a requirement for omnipotence. Omnipotence refers to the power.
>>289004626Did that author actually confirm that? Also I wouldn't consider not believing sonzai x to be the creator of the universe just because he seems to be able to pause time/isekai people to be edgy. It's a hell of a claim and one he can't prove. That said edge is one of the main reasons why the show is fun.
>>289007808Bending the knee to someone and acknowledging that some one may be better are not the same thing. Also the Abrahamic God is an immoral peice of shit. If he really existed then many people would be better than him in that regard.
>>289012312im (culturally) orthodox. yes the main problem are the anglo protestants and puritans.
>>289007808This is bullshit to get obedient little slaves with as little resistance as possible and has nothing to do with morality.
>>289011270>spiteful>wrathful I disagree. If X really was that he would have put Tanya into an absolutely unlivable horror show scenario where she would have no possibilty of achieving anything while living in constant pain and misery.X is just shocked at the absolute state of this autist rejecting the divine at every possible opportunity and trying to beat some faith into her. Honestly, I would put her in much worse situations since she is a major cunt.
>>289004170His story is just book of Job if Job was showing the middle finger to God, Job lost his family, friends, money, health and was still supposed to suck off God because reasons >>289007808Why would you bend the knee to someone who’s making your life a living nightmare fag ?
>>289012584You bend the knee to Mother Nature, don't you, little Earthcuck
>>289011490hot
>>289011490
>>289011604In the LNs there are shown to be more than one Being X type creature but it's been a while since I read them and I'm behind now
>>289013429was there? i was hesitant to mention whether he is monotheistic or not
>>289004240>>289009238>>289013429The LNs are one of the most difficult things to read in Japanese. I unironically think you'll be reading an entirely different thing if you read them in English.
Yes, God is brown. Why wouldn't he be?
>>289014160I mean, unironically, yeah? It's probably the most accurate representation i seen of yahweh.
>>289004170did the first episode come out already or what?
>>289014160there was that one episode where he tortured a guy and runined his life over a bet with the devilor when he mindraped the pharao into being stubborn, than punished all of egypt for the pharao being stubbornSeeing god as the ultimate moral being when he's fine with everything from planetary scale genocide to torture is kinda insane
>>289014361>when he mindraped the pharao into being stubborn, than punished all of egypt for the pharao being stubbornyeah, what the hell was this aboutI can totally see why some sects were bending over backwards to not equate Jesus with yhwh
>>289014160>time has stopped a second before my death?>some being is talking through the mouths of men, women, babies and animals?>he knows everything about me and is asking me why I don't believe in god?>let me be a smartass real quick and insult him multiple times>there is surely a rational explanation as to why the time stopped for me>surely, this won't backfireHe isn't petty, he was right to knock that arrogant shit down a peg.>fails miserably Does he? To me it seems like he wants to see if it's possible to reform this absolute psychopath without fucking with his mind.
>>289012312Christniggers are the spitting definition of message going over your head memeJesus: worship in my church, not the whore church of manFaggot: oh obviously hes talking about my speshul man led chyrch as the real one
>>289014568I'm pretty sure the standard christian doctrine for when you hear voices talking to you claiming to be god or an angel, you should assume its a demon trying to fuck with you.She unironically did nothing wrong.
>>289004240X is obviously the demiurge and anyone saying saying he is God is as much of a fedora tipping nigger as Tanya herself.
>>289014802Isn't the demiurge still a god? It's a bad god but still a god.
>>289011270>Omnipotent.If he were omnipotent then there'd be no purpose to the exercise in the first place. He's not omniscient because he doesn't understand why he can't maintain faith and needs it explaining to him. He's not omnicogniscient because he can't appreciate Tanya's perspective. And he's not omnipotent, otherwise faith would be meaningless to him and he'd be able to break Tanya's will without having to go through the reincarnation process. Sonzai X is a textbook case of a demiurge, he claims to be almighty yet everything he does demonstrates that's he's merely more powerful than humans, but otherwise no less fallible.
>>289014847The demiurge is a pretender. In a sense it's no less wicked than the devil for falsely declaring itself the true God.
>>289014847Which is why i didn't say "a god" but THE God with a capital G. I was implying he is not the christian God but some gnostic demon. He calls himself the wheel in the second episode so maybe the chakravartin? Who knows
>>289004170
>>289015229
>>289004170>no you don't get it tanya is wicked intelligent and nihilistic (like me)>does not do a single smart thing in the series
>>289014636Being X wasn't offended when Tanya said this must be the work of the devil or the possibility that he was the devil, but specifically when the possibility of divine intervention was discarded entirely, and then being called Being X. And with the powers we have seen X use he could have easily made Tanya's world a Subaru-esque living hell if he was some vindictive being pretending to be God.That leads me to believe he is THE God or someone similar, thus the offence due to lack of faith. That's why Tanya has useful powers and prospects to succeed in life albeit with a lot of struggle instead of ending up as Subaru in a never ending loop of suffering. Given the shit we have seen him do he just get into some guy's head and say "God ordered you to draw and quarter this orphan".
>>289015229>>289015240The mangaka is dangerously based.
>>289015229Sexo
>>289015229This is a grown man
>>289014802>complains about the demiurge while capitalizing god lmao
being attracted to girls with vaginas isnt gay
>>289015475I'm giving a "reincarnation without wiping memory first" case a pass but it's still pretty gross
>>289015475i would argue the male personality makes it less gay. you don't have to endure shit tests and emasculate yourself to stoop to a woman's level for her.
>>289014847The demiurge is a god, but one devoid of true divinity. By achieving Gnosis one can ignite their divine spark and cast off the shackles of physical existence.
>>289015544>less gaylike, 120% straight
>>289015291>That's why Tanya has useful powers and prospects to succeed in life albeit with a lot of struggle instead of ending up as Subaru in a never ending loop of suffering.The point is that X wants to trick Tanya into acknowledging him and he finds it amusing to make her seem like a religious lunatic.X is a petty, lowly creature, far beneath YHWH at his worst.
>>289015553Sounds to me like demiurge is convient scapegoat to blame everything bad god does on
was AC invented in the empire?
>>289015578Anon, the very creation of the universe was a bad thing.By creating the universe, the demiurge destroyed the true, untainted divine. By breaking it into pieces and assembling them into the shape we know as the world today, it has already caused unimaginable evil and destruction. The demiurge is the gaoler of the pure untainted souls, trapping them forever in a false existence, instead of their true and free divine form.It's similar, but distinct from Indian religions in that there Samsara is seen as a truth of existence itself, rather than the work of a powerful demon.
>>289015556you could probably complain about women with her. if she was real other girls would call her a pick-me.
>>289015229>She cumming
i could've sworn i have a meduka tanya. apparently not
harsh but fair
>>289017614
>>289009066Pettiness is a form of greatness
>>289018689sonzai x did this
>>289018689Not sure why half-naked Tanya and theology are an issue either.
>>289017614>Judaism was originally polytheisticOnly in the sense that it acknowledged that the Gods of other faiths and cultures existed and that their powerlevel was lower than YHWH's.
>>289004170Except that in the LN Tanya makes more or less a "truce" with Being X because Tanya and Being X both agree that communism needs to cleansed in the flames of purgatory. And this "truce" has been active for more volumes than it hasn't, basically ever since the Eastern Front became the main focus. But since the anime already took some liberties regarding Being X (e.g. in the LN there are multiple "Being X"s while in the anime so far it's just a single one) it's entirely possible that they'll just make the "truce" not happen for a few more "damn you, Being X!" meme-templates.
>>289011394Ainz can use his communication spell or that crystal ball spell to communicate and/or observe stuff without being present and he can also stop time. So Ainz is therefore omnipotent as well, right? SASUGA, AINZ-SAMA!
>>289020854earlier i was thinking what would tanya's victory over sonzai x even look like, and i was thinking perhaps she can orchestrate events so that communism wins and makes the world atheist, losing being x a lot of faithfuls other than just herself. it would've required tanya to make a hard choice considering how much she hates communists. it seems the opposite happens, though if i'm not mistaken its more one-sided than you're describing it. does sonzai x actually tell tanya that they have a truce or does he just stop fucking with her of his own accord?
>>289011363I say this and I look like this.
>>289020980you wish
>>289020999don't we all?
>>289015229>>289015313Cute
>>289020950I don't recall because I read that part in like 2018/2019 IIRC, so I don't really remember the exact details anymore and new volumes release at a snails pace. Anyway, all that changed is that Tanya no longer runs into constant misfortunes anymore and that the special magic casting device no longer erodes Tanya's mind as much as it did previously, when it was so bad that Tanya was sleepwalking to church on Sundays and only regained control after leaving the church building. But a Being X-like being that is a different one from Tanya's (call it Being Y if you prefer) actually tries to convert Lovia into a believer. But Tanya doesn't actually know about the different Being X, Being Y, Being Z, etc. IIRC in the LN it was also yet another one who "blessed" Mary Sue, so I am not sure how the anime will later handle these discrepancies.
>>289015527What if everyone or at least most people are reincarnators (perhaps even multiple times already) but without memory?
>>289021245duh. sonzai x says he is the wheel of reincarnation, the implication is everyone reincarnates in this universe and tanya just retained her memories. this is my main argument for why she is female and liking her isn't gay.
Isekai is a lame gimmick and I can't wait for it to fucking go away already. It adds nothing to the story other than giving the author an easy excuse to asspull stupid shit on a regular basis.
if we proceed with the demiurge + reincarnation theory, sonzai x might be preventing souls from going to the after life, keeping them to farm faith.
>>289020999X will grant my wish in my next life.
>>289021711cute feet
>>289013429I think they were just angels, they specifically give Mary Sue her blessings. Being X is a lot more hands off in the LN.
>>289004170Only the struggle is real
>>289011490They've barely even fought in the novels, so we'll see how the anime proceeds this season.
>>289011604Say it in red!
>>289021245The retaining memory is the part that mattersSouls are genderless, but memory shapes the particular personI am not sure if you fucking Tanya is gay but Tanya getting fucked defiently has to be at least somewhat gay
I just wanna look at Tanya in girly clothing, especially if she looks embarrassed in them
>>289004170I was planning on rewatching S1 before S2 airs, do I also need to watch the movie? I never watched it. Or is it filler?
>>289024072Yes.
Khorne nodiffs "x" btw
>>289007851One STUBBORN retarded atheist. That's the main point, dude literally comes in direct contact with God, gets 100% certified evidence that he exists - via Isekai and time stop shenanigans, and REFUSES to accept reality that God exists. It's not a question of faith at this point. You know, for a fact, God exists when He talks directly to you. To not cave & revise your position in the face of evidence (repeated evidence at that) is non-scientific. Now of course modern atheists are the "I Love Science" types who accept political dogma over science, so this perfectly fits with Tanya's disposition. She essentially believes a dogma that God CANNOT exist, and he's just fucking with her to get her to accept a reality that he does, and he's using a war-Hell to brutalize her until she does. Hence all the catechism chants and other crap.
>>289025116Anon, why do you believe that X is God just because it says so? In the first place, why would God even talk to you or anyone else? You are not a prophet of the Lord. If a disembodied voice spoke to you claiming to be God, would you believe it, as the good Christian like you are pretending to be? Of course not. God does not speak to the people, Christ is the last prophet.Therefore whatever X is, it cannot not be God.
>>289012759Yep, it's like meeting Morgan Freeman as God and going - nah, you don't exist - RIGHT TO HIS FACE. While he proves he's god in all the critical ways. And still not accepting reality. Mind boggling position, one no RATIONAL person would take. A rational person would immediately abandon Pascals wager upon meeting with an actual Deity. It's is only absent the presence of any Deity that Pascal's wager holds water.
>>289011270That's not what the book of Job is about at all.
>>289025202Because TIME is stopped. No one with a time stop watch exists IRL. We don't have mortals running around time stopping shit fucking women. Not a thing - it's from fiction. If time stops and a voice from nowhere talks to me - it's a god of some sort. Sure it might be a 4D or 5D being that happens to be mortal, but from our 3D perspective, that person is a "greater" being, worthy of at least treating as a god like figure. Also it doesn't have to be the Christian god. Can be any other deity from other religions. And the Christian god DID speak directly to various mortals in the bible, just not all of them.
>>289011444I'll waste 1 reply on you.He doesn't have the power of understanding.Srsly ppl like you who just say wrong shit to waste other people's time should just kill yourselves.
>>289025253If I met God and He wanted to convince me that He really is God, He would be able to do so. He also has no need for nonsense games to find out whether I will or will not acknowledge Him, because he already knows everything.X is unable to convince anyone slightly critical and is unable to see whether it can win or not, therefore it cannot possibly be God, but something else.This is theology 101 stuff.>Pascals wagerWhen faced with an actual deity, acting in accordance Pascal's wager is pure nonsense.
>>289013429you are confusing it with the manga, that has multiple gods. LN has angels
>>289015313yes, she is
>>289025333>Also it doesn't have to be the Christian godBut it declared itself to be the Christian explicitly and all references to X are references to the Christian God, that is what X says it is, which is why X clearly comes up lacking in every respect but being a petty bitch.>that person is a "greater" being, worthy of at least treating as a god like figure. Why?X is blatantly lying about being God, so the question is, what else is it lying about?>And the Christian god DID speak directly to various mortals in the bible, just not all of them.Not a single one after Christ, no. That's my point, Christ is the last prophet.
>>289025383I thought I remember in the LN there was a meeting between them about something. It's been a couple years though.
>>289025468it is a scene from the manga
>>289025333Or you just took a pretty heavy dose of LSD and you're conversing with the archetypes. Wherever happens, happens to YOUR perception. You think it's more likely God is talking directly to you, and he also stopped time, or something crucial but physical broke in your brain and you're experiencing time dilation and delusions?Not even gonna start with DMT, Ayahuasca and shit you "see".
>>289010834>Japanese salaryman
>>289010834Where is the kuma-chan
>>289025202>Christ is the last prophetChrist is God, so I'm not exactly sure this fits exactly.>God does not speak to the people Not nearly as solid a claim as you think it is. Jesus' sacrifice and the imbuement of everyone who believes with the Holy Spirit allows all to have direct communication with God.
Is the second season worth watching? I finished the first years ago. Thanks
>>289004240>>289014847Tanya is arguing that her definition of God is Lambda, while Being X is the Demiurge.I'm fully with Tanya, God has loose definitions but a God I would worship is definitely not an almighty brat.Imagine worshiping a so-called "omnipotent God" that actually bothers to argue with you, that's no God in my eyes.
>>289025733>Christ is God, so I'm not exactly sure this fits exactly.Christ is a man and Christ is the last prophet.>Jesus' sacrifice and the imbuement of everyone who believes with the Holy Spirit allows all to have direct communication with God.I think you may be misunderstanding some very fundamental things.
>>289025487I swear there was an LN scene like that where they where talking about a world axis or something but it's been a couple years and I need to reread them even if they are trash yen press translations
>>289025905>Christ is a man and Christ is the last prophet.Tread carefully Arbiter. What you say is heresy.
>>289007502Except the omnipotent and omnicient part.
>>289026897You have it backwards.Based on Trient, which defined what it means to be Christian, denying Christ's nature as a man is heresy.Please study the texts and the early church.
>>289026990Christ is both God and Man. You can't deny either. Him being a prophet implies he isn't also god himself, which is heresy.
>>289026990>>289026897My mistake, I was thinking of Nicea, of course.
>>289027006>Him being a prophet implies he isn't also god himselfNo, it doesn't imply that at all.
>>289025771Might wanna try asking again in about three months
That's my girl
>>289027165yeah
>>289028705fitting that a schizophrenic tranny would blame Communism
>>289028779
What's even the point of waging a war if you aren't going to battalions of guys swooping from the heavens and blowing the shit out of enemy rear lines?
>>289015229>>289015240>>289015313Is the manga a good way of experiencing the story? I've seen a lot of LN adaptions where the LN is good, and the anime is good, but the manga is a shitty middle ground that cuts a lot and is half assed. (Looking at you, Mushoko Tensei)
>>289025116No certified evidence. Even if you force it to count it provides no inherent and absolute reason to worship.
>>289030252You are under the assumption that God "needs" your worshipHe doesn'tYou doThe reason why Jesus demands absolute worship is because, to worship is to put it in charge of your lifeTo worship Christ is to let him lead your life and his will is for you to grow and be worthy of the crown that he inteads to give youTo refuse worshiping Christ is to instead worship your self, your possessions, and your feelingsAll 3 are finite, does not have your best self-interest in mind, and will ultimately lead to the destruction of both yourself and the ones around youGod is perfect. He has no skin in this gameAll he wants is for his creations to be in the glory that he intends for
>>289028779If you woke up as a biological female one day, would it be more transsexual to pretend to be your original sex or to embrace the transformation?
>All these anons insisting Being X is godIs this a reactionary compulsion brought on by the idea that Tanya is an atheist?She says from the start that she doesn't believe Being X is God because he is incompetent and bitching about the difficultly in reincarnating billions of humans which the real God would not have any trouble with at all.
>>289030816do you get paid per bait post?
>>289030497neither, it would be a strange situation that would warrant strange behavior. i lean towards acting more like your original sex though.>>289030816i think it has to do with the mental toolkits people have. to a hammer everything looks like a nail, and to people equipped to worship or disprove gods sonzai x is more likely to be believed or disproven.
>>289030816When I was an anime-only like 7 years ago I was super convinced Being X was the demiurge and I thought I was clever for coming up with it lolI don't really know though
Being X is not acting like an abrahamic God. That implies that he isn't, that Christianity misunderstood him heavily, or that He is who he says He is but is not being truthful for some unknown reason>>289025361God's motive is also not understandable by mortalsBible rather clearly shows that God can behave like a human>>289027006No it doesn'tChrist has two natures-God and HumanDenying that makes you a heretic>>289025845I don't think the original Tanya, the salaryman, has deep understanding of Gnosticism and theology in general and thus the more likely reason is that he's a stubborn bitch
>>289025343you would not survive my sloppiest kiss, brat
>>289015553Some sects didn't view demiurge this way but we dont know a lot about them, thus this being the most popular view enjoyed by schizos today.
>>289028779>He says while the venn diagram of schizophrenic trannies and modern communists just looks like a circle
How useful would modern military knowledge of a relative layman be in that world?If I draw how a T-34, Panther, T-54 or an Abrams would local engineers be able to make use of that? What about aircraft, something in teh general shape of a Mustang got to be better that interwar things they've got flying around.Assault rifles are clearly doable, the concept is simple, select fire intermediate cartridge, first ones appeared back in Russo-Japanese war but haven't become popular till end of WW2.I guess the knowledge taht carriers would suplant traditional naval power for the forseeable future would come in useful, but they take a while to build.Higher caliber anti-air would be more useful against mages, say 40mm autocannonsIrregular warfare shown seems to be pretty primitive and Republic could have really damaged their war fighting capacity, since Imperial strategy relies and constantly redploying it's army around by rails to crush oponent while lineholder buys time.
>>289030497Your biology determines what you are
>>289032163I think tactics and industrial capability matter more than specific designs. The US and USSR decision to just maximize output overcomes superior German design. Making the switch to combined arms is clearly the superior tactic over German wonder weapons. Simply not being genocidal against slavic people and having the specific goal of defeating the Soviet Union could have greatly turned the eastern front in favor of the Germans. Specific engineering knowledge seems less important if the economy cannot support it. No WWII power could make an Abrams at scale, and it would have been a waste to try. No amount of technical knowledge would have helped the Chinese avoid their losses. The swap to assault rifles however, might have had a decent effect early on before copy-cats join the fray.
>>289009238That's Tanya's entire point. Being X isn't actually God and he gives it away the instant he bemoans a lack of faith in the world and again when he indulges Tanya's bullshit.Tanya knows that and refuses to live her life dedicated to some charlatan who makes up new rules whenever the game isn't going in their favor.It's atheist vs false god. If the actual Abrahamic God does exist in that universe, he's fucking laughing as Tanya is essentially more pious than any of the people who are worshiping the false idol.
>>289030497>If you woke up as a biological female one day, would it be more transsexual to pretend to be your original sex or to embrace the transformation?Hormones mostly dictate a lot of the underlying things we do as human beings, as such your new body likely dictates a lot of your behavior.
>>289032163they showed off panzer 3's in the series which isnt really comparable to the assfucking power of the panther but it means they arent far behind it, jet engines would be cool but quite difficult seeing as they are sorta still in the biplane era. mage agility and accurate firepower with no need for landing strips is just retardedly strong. abrams would only benefit from the composite armor because most of its power comes from computery stuff they physically cant recreate. a battleship that can deploy mages would be extremely strong and capable of destroying shipping entirely without the difficulty of using U-boatsreal improvements would lie in showing the strength of intermediate cartridges and getting something like the STG into the hands of every man as quick as possible, mages are strong but they cant hold down a city. the american proximity fuse was op as shit and probably your best bet for anti-mage firepower but they can shield themselves if fast enough.
>>289015681The concept of a pick-me is so fucking insane to me as a male. Women hold absurd amounts of social power and yet they act like the only validation that matters is a mans and demean other women as if they only care about that vapid validation from males.I suspect there's an element of political brainwashing in there too like; "If you don't subscribe to our tribe then you're just a whore who wants men's validations"
>>289032217>The US and USSR decision to just maximize output overcomes superior German designGermany couldn't really outproduce eitherI guess ahead of time knowledge on middle eastern oil might help.In our timeline maybe closer cooperation with USSR would work but not in Tanya's world>Making the switch to combined arms is clearly the superior tactic over German wonder weaponsGermany did use combined arms. I was at first thinking of introducing combined arms tactic but looking at episode 12 they clearly do use them>simply not being genocidal against slavic people and having the specific goal of defeating the Soviet Union could have greatly turned the eastern front in favor of the Germans.Not really. It's not gonna have that much effect on partisan warfare, and once it starts youi have no choice other tahn to retaliate> No WWII power could make an Abrams at scale, and it would have been a waste to tryAbrams maybe, and engine technology is behind, but would attempting early cold war-late ww2 designs work? Empire is using panzer 3sOh, and the last thing I forgot is nukes. Mayeb knowing the general principle would help scientist develop it earlier
>>289025116>>289025333The point is that X explicitly claims to be God (with the capital G) and that Tanya has personally experienced the irrationality of the world.If God truly existed, he would not have allowed the world to continue to its current state, so while Tanya recognizes that the being stopping time IS powerful and maybe CAN do all these things, it's a matter of principle and core to Tanya's belief that such a being who would be so irrational and so hypocritical, cannot be God and can only be something else by the very definitions of the words.
>>289032349the sea north of germany is absolutely packed with oil, bad luck finding that one out afterwards but they would have had to scuffle with the UK for it nonstop
>>289032184yes but it takes longer than a day to adapt. eventually the hormones from the inside and societal response from the outside would mold you
>>289027007
>>289020194All religion related posts get deleted 99% of the time even when they are on-topic. I once got a week long ban due to talking about one characters religious roots. At the same time obvious troll threads are left alone, i just dont get it.
>>289032396ur gay and rartedin that universe god is depicted as an omnipotent being who wants to extract MAXIMUM FAITH from everyonehe's just taking the piss on tanya because hes a literal reddit fedoratipper autist
>>289032427Oh and the bans are always for ''off-topic'' discussions, so watch your asses.
>>289032404Offshore drilling there is beyond their technologyIf oil is needed joint deal with Ottomans or Soviets for resource rights to Arabian/Capian oil might work since you have ahead of time knowledge on the depositsHowever, if war with USSR does occur, you just helped them get even more oilAs for Ottomans, unless you deal with British navy you can't really use taht oil>>289032291Aircraft are faster then mages, as those mostly top off at 300 kphThey are small, manuevrable and tanky due to shieldsJets are not realistic for the time, but the development has lots of dual purpose movesI was thinking of trying to ape late war superprops
>>289032427>>289032437idk if its fine to talk about it, hopefully intent matters and i'm trying to steer the conversation more on topic, but it was mostly my posts that were deleted, i was only warned and i think it was fair. it was off topic because we were arguing about our personal religious beliefs not that of the anime. people doing that in the first place was what baited me into doing it too, and janny was fair enough in deleting both sides of the argument. i'd really rather we focus on what tanya thinks and sonzai x.so yeah i don't want you to defend me, i admit fault and it was just deleted and warning.
>>289032427For some reason off topic discussion is much more intelligent and civil on boards not meant for itI've had great disussion on Russian early 90s politics on /vst/, weapon disussions on /pol/ and science disussions on /tg/If religion in this thread was disussed on lit or pol it would be a shitflinging fest with genuine schizophrenics
>>289032427>>289032437It happens because there are jannies that will escalate posts to mods who have minimal context of the discussion and will pass judgement summarily based on the reply chain or a short skimming thereof. There simply aren't enough mods to understand the current state of conversation in every (or even most) threads at any given time. Couple that with the behavior of schizos, mods can't dedicate a lot of time to understanding whats going on and a 3-day ban isn't that harsh so they can be handed out more liberally.Kind of like how Tanya can be isekai'd for shits and giggles because the benefits of Being X doing that far outweigh the negatives, even if from Tanya's perspective it's a shit deal.
>>289032514Yeah i have noticed the same
>>289025116>>289025333>>289032428>if it's supernatural, it's Godcool argument, it could also be the Devil, the being known for constantly fucking with humans and testing their faithit actually, literally, doesn't matter because Tanya puts her faith on a logical being, the very moment X appeared in front of her and talked she knew it wasn't her God because that's not logical
>>289032564you lack media literacy
>>289032514It definitely has to do with a lack of irony poisoning and people being uninterested in shitposting something off-topic. The potential shitposting in a Naruto thread is basically everyone who enters the thread since everyone has the minimum required knowledge on the topic to get snarky. If you don't understand something and are genuine in wanting to know or learn more, you're not going to shitpost and derail the conversation. It allows both sides to have an unironic rapport without constantly suspecting well-poisoning or intentional retardation like as if on queue, this post right here >>289032574
>>289032587Very well explained, i agree with your points
>devil wants faith>replied to himself agreeing with himselfholy pseud
>>289012858>>289007808I respect nature and animals, and bend the knee to animals stronger than me that could kill me, but that doesn't make them arbiters of morality or in any way good leadersa god's specialty is in their strength and access to knowledge, but no god in anime is ever shown to be smart or wise
what my most honest analysis is, is that sonzai x is the actual god of this universe, but from that it does not follow that you should worship or obey him. it was reasonable in the moment to suspect his divinity as well, though tanya was too much of a dick about it and should've exercised more self-preservation.sonzai x has proven himself powerful but he has not proven himself good. the only things we learn about his intent is that he wants more power (faith) and less work to get it, at no point did he say he was providing any benefits in return. he does the opposite, he is willing to make the lives of people worse to obtain his objective.
>>289032574you lack japanese media literacy if you think a god is presumed good.
>>289032920who's talking about them being good? retard
Gender-bending is gay as fuck. Change my mind (you can't, because I' m right)
Take your pick.
>>289032966>>289015544>>289015556tanya is just like a tomboy. you get to act like you want to act around her.
>>289032966Only if you're into men.
knowing it's the soul of a man makes it hotter tbqh, you know he's getting fagged up while you smash his pussy and cum inside, hopefully impregnating himCONQUERED
>>289032966From the point of view of a normal person, Tanya isn't gender-bending, she was born a girl. To acknowledge her past life as a male is to buy into her delusions and view her as a tranny, which is gay as fuck.
>>289032409Sure, but Tanya started out as a baby, and more than a decade has elapsed by the point when most of the story's events start taking place.
>>289033152well you replied to the post stating>If you woke up as a biological female one daytanya is still prepubescent or just entered puberty. she was ~40 as a man so to fully overwrite that i think she'd need to be a ~20 year old woman
>>289033191but estrogens
>>289033016
>>289033200At what point did she act like estrogen had any influence over her through
>>289033337she's a moody bitch
she is experiencing some female/child privilege. i don't think she ever beat up fools as a disciplinary method while she worked in HR
>>289033110It isn't delusion throughHer world is mind over matter
>>289033323is the gray one wn?
>>289033403LN, iirc the double-v one is restaurant.
>>289033100tsmt
>>289011270Sonzai X violates divine simplicity and isn't really God.>Tanya is basically the book of job on steroids.It's an inversion of Job.Job is about Satan telling God that Job only worships Him because he has wealth. Youjo Senki is Job telling "God" He doesn't believe in him because he has wealth.
>>289029533The manga is pretty good, it covers more LN stuff than the anime by quite a wide margin and even has some original stuff IIRC. It's also by far the cutest depiction of Tanya, though you could probably already tell from the previous pics.
>>289033100Hot
>>289021711Delicious.
>backfiresShe's winning so hard the LN isn't even funny anynore.
>>289004170>>289004626>nah its god>Source; my brown ass
>>289033932I've read the manga, but it's clear that 'not germany' lost, while she became an 'anonymous' legend of the battlefield.she probably got smashed hard by riegel and had like 5 sons.I hope this retarded journalist doesnt find her
>>289010834>>289011320How good would the Strike Witches girls be in Tanya's world? Or rather, how good would Tanya be in the Strike Witches world? I think Tanya would be the Supreme Commander of the Witches in about a year, but I bet the Witches would have a really bad time in Tanya's world because they'd be used as pawns by world powers against each other.
>>289011490D-damn, poor Tanya...
>>289011490this is not canon btw. in the manga they didnt even get to fight yet
>>289034276Yeah, I know not!germany lost but as far as I remember (I read it slowly inbetween other shit because of the sheer length) it's all but implied it was not an omegastomp like 1918 or 1945 like Zettour keeps crying and fearing about. Which is the best you can ask for ngl.
>>289015229>>289015240>>289015313ToT
>>289034335tanya von degurechaff you damn brat!!!! needs correction!!!!
>>289034324They have fought already in the LN a few times. She is no match yet.
>>289004170>tries defies godAt least you got it right on the second try
>>289033016>>289033323For me its the Duck!!
>>289033016>>289033323How many are there now?
>>289034502does this one also count?
>>289032291>panzer 3's in the series which isnt really comparable to the assfucking power of the panther>assfucking power of the pantherlol, lmao even, I don't want to be that guy who says; actually... but the Panther was so bad that even the French didn't want it after the end of the war, because the Panther was riden with mechaniccal problems fron the very fundation.
>>289034288the strike witches would enter a state of despair and probably desert if they were forced to shoot at people, tanya would otherwise thrive with more advanced tech
>>289004170>>tries defies god>>backfires>>tries to defy god again>>backfires>>tries to defy god again>>backfires>At least we got 3 minutes of monologue lecturing the us how war is an endless cycle of hatred and how, paradoxically, the desire for peace fuels war.
>>289034288As said on the last thread, Tanya solos the SW universe. Her magical shell can repulse anything the neuroi have been show to deploy, let alone the witches, she's an ace at flying into a danmaku hell and go out unscratched, and her Type 95 is an instant OHKO.
>>289034720couldnt deflect this lol, lmao>>289011490
>>289034760It's already defected as it's not canon. LN Tanya has fought Mary already and completely won with no difficulty.
We do not pray to the demiurge in this house.Also is she a hebe now.
>>289034760That girl was endowed with power by God (The Devil)
>>289034760Anon real canon Mary is the weakest of all Sonzai X's puppets.
>>289034579it had well designed sloped armor which was a massive gain over the panzer 4's and a fuckoff high velocity gun with great sights. its mechanical issues were pretty readily solved by well maintained supply lines and service stations, problem is when the retreats happened these stations stopped existing. tiger reused a ton of parts intended for tanks a fraction of its weight so they snapped way more shit in that one, also of course the french wouldnt care for a tank that got utterly powercrept by the end.compared overall it made the panzer 3's look like armored cars
>>289034806She's so flat ahahahhaa what a washboard
>>289034882>pretty readily solved by well maintained supply lines and service stationsDunno, Win More tech that turns into Lose More tech as soon as you stop Winning soesn't sound too useful.
>>289034916yeah if they had time to design a bigger drive shaft and gearbox then it would have been a wunderwaffle but chose to lean on logistics which were somewhat reliable, silly mistakes
>>289034946Even spearchuckers understand that the only thing you can rely on war is yourself and your own weapon.
>>289032163>How useful would modern military knowledge of a relative layman be in that world?Most of it is useless, but the broad strokes of urban warfare and naval combat apply greatly here.The most obvious thing you realize if you have mage is that open field combat is a complete waste of your resources and you should focus most of your efforts on engineering CQB situations and guerilla warfare, which is where mages excel most, because a mage can only be defeated by another mage or heavy armament. Flight is useful, but ultimately a waste.
>>289034996No, you cannot, because most people in war until extremely recently died of preventable infections and starvation.You cannot rely on yourself or your weapon, because you are not able to feed yourself and you will run out of spears to chuck.
>>289032163In that world specifically? Zero. They have experts already. It's not a late dark age isekai setting.Yeah you might be able to make one of their experts to have an eureka moment if you are able to get and talk to them about the wonders of the modern world, but for everything you know about a WW2 tank you are still missing 20 minutias that are just as important.
>>289034859>the weakest of all Sonzai X's puppetsWait, there are more!?
>>289033768>>289029533Well I did check it out a little. It seems different from the anime by a lot even in the first chapter. The way Being X/God is depicted in the Manga, it looks a *lot* more like he is intended to actually be God, and our protagonist is just an asshole. Nothing in here is *proof* just the way its presented looks like authorial intent. In the anime it comes across more like Q from Star Trek using godlike powers to fuck with people, so Tanya comes across as more rational rather than just hubristic. The manga also made him look like Max Stirner which feels like it might mean... Something.
>>289035098I am far more knowledgeable in my field than the experts of 100 years ago, all of the sciences are fairly young and there is a lot of potential for innovation. While I couldn't come up with any actionable plan like "do exactly this", I could easily write tens of research proposals with enough detail in them that they would change the world massively.
>>289035144Stirner was, as I understand, hyper-individualist and saw Christianity (and most forms of government) as unacceptable authority. I'm not sure I can picture him bullying someone into resigning or being fired just so they can be laid off without benefits though.
>>289035107Yeah. Not!Stalin didn't want to fight this dumb war until X whispered to him, then he started doing very overt moves and kicked out a Not!Barbarossa noone truly wanted to fight. Mary and him are most extreme examples.Then you have him fucking with fate here and there with other minor characters. I'm pretty sure I remember him whispering to Not!Churchill too which caused the trigger for the Not!BritishEmpire to join in. For all her bullshit (which still isn't enough to rattle Tanya), she is in no way comparable to the Red Army and the RAF.Not to say the start of this dumb war was Not!Denmark doing something so dumb I would be shocked X isn't behind it.
>>289035209Well, if you are truly an engineer from 100 years in the future then yeah, but the post said "a relative layman" which for me means someone who watches 20 minute YT documentaries about a WW2 tonk or plen every now and then and can kinda name the key moments of WW1 and WW2 in a somewhat chronological order.
>>289035228All these because Tanya refuse to worship him? Why is he so petty?
>>289034882>of course the french wouldnt care for a tank that got utterly powercrept by the end.Mid 1943 tank that got utterly powercrept by late 1944 and early 1945 tanks lmao.>well designed sloped armor which was a massive gain over the panzer 4'sThe Panzer IV was a useful tank even in the 50s despite being tank that entered service in 1939, places like Spain liked the Panzer IV so much that even one of his kings drived one, The Panther, on the other hand, was turned into scrap the moment the war ended.
>>289035313This entire thing is just Tanya's personal limbo/purgatory anon. It's effectively just a simulation meant to break her.
>>289035333If being X is so powerful, why he don't brainwash Tanya and call it a day?
>>289035333that's not how the story is presented. all the characters are real or at least tanya never doubt they are. the world would have had to exist before tanya reincarnated into it. sure you could say sonzai x is treating this world as her limbo/purgatory (his playground to test tanya's theory), but it isn't inherently that.
>>289035392I'm not going to reread Vol1 but I'm pretty sure X says that it was a world made specifically for her.And in any case, the world being or not real doesn't change anything. It's still Tanya vs S.X petty argument whether they are in matrix or universe #8473242.>>289035390For the same reason the Abrahamic God doesn't brainwash humanity. Free will and all that song and dance.
>ITTBeing X propaganda
>>289035390If sonzai x is so Inteligent why did he make the salaryman a loli, that's retarded.
>>289035460he did it for me
>>289035460manga sales, his power transcends realities
>>289035455>Free will>But You have to worship me or else!!Also why are (You) so fixated saying "Abrahamic God"? There are tens of thousands more religions in the world, try reading some books from time to time.>>289035460>why did he make the salaryman a loliBeing X was triying to make Tanya the suxual toy of some ugly old man with money, that is why he made her a loli.
>>289011270 Iunno man, the negative shit about Being X also applies to the biblical God. I won't admit to reading the Bible recently but the Bible was something we were required to read as kids and, well, some shit I vaguely remember were>Petty"For I the Lord your God am a jealous God...">PowerfulI don't even need to elaborate do I?>SpitefulSomething about a fucking tree being set on fire for bearing the wrong fruit and genociding Egyptians and Canaanites.>WrathfulI feel like that's synonymous with the above>OmnipotentDo I even need to elaborate?Actually reading the Bible and thinking about it is one of the more effective ways to make someone think that God actually a cruel cunt
>>289035871my tool
>>289035871Don't know if its in the LN or mangaka made it the fuck up, but manga makes it very clear this is supposed to be the Abrahamic god.
>>289035871Because it's clearly based on the abrahamic god? A supposedly omnipotent and omnisapient being, yet petty and short fused, who could easily make the world unite to him in worship if he did absolutely anything at all yet doesn't, which is the main objection Tanya and the real world have against him, and whose religion(s) have a (more or less accepted in the larger and well known specific branches of mainly christianity which Carlo would be more familiar with) concept of purgatory not unlike the one Tanya is experiencing?Well, not to say that most of the other tens of thousands of religions you mention are politheistic while Tanya's being is clearly the FAR more rare monotheistic.I admit that as a westerner I am very biased to see the this god as the clear inspiration but to my knowledge there are no other major monotheistic religions. Hell I believe not even Buddha is considered a god by buddhists and in any case X is clearly not a Buddha expy anyway.
>>289036041Even if the mangaka made it up Carlo had to OK it.
>>289036041Lmao
>>289036041>>289035144What's interesting is that the manga also features other deities and entities such as buddhas. This does add credibility that Sonzai X is technically who it claims to be but it also gives something of an SMT feel, where it's merely the strongest among its deity peers rather than a true absolute being.
>>289036052>Tanya's being is clearly the FAR more rare monotheistic>monotheisticSo, (You) haven't read the LN, got it.>clearly not a Buddha expy anyway.buddhism is about reincarnation and the world being a endless cycle of suffering, a purgatory, by the way I'm not saying that Youjo Senki it's a metaphor for buddhism, Im just saying that (You) need to pick a book from time to time, try to read the LN for example, its pretty gud.>>289036041The Manga even have furry shiet, I like the manga but I wouldn't put it like a source of what the LN is trying to convey.
>>289036298I did read the LN, but with X being a less present character every book, and me losing a bit of interest with all the Zettour wank in the later ones where Tanya is relegated to a secondary character I admit I might have missed mentions of other gods. I imagine you remember at least one such case and can at least point me to the right LN volume? I know it might as well be in the Volume 1 initial loredump but I read that at least 6 years ago.
>>289036041>>289036052well that implies he is an amalgamation of all religions because it mentions nirvana from hinduism/taoism or whatever, and he uses reincarnation. anime sonzai x referring to himself as the wheel of reincarnation or something.it looks like he's asking for faith of any kind.
>>289036298>furry shirtAre you telling me these dudes are just gonna be walking around like it's early Dragonball? I assumed the anthro characters were like, a "political cartoon" depiction of the countries, like how Russia is a bear or whatever.
>>289036452Or maybe he's all of them lmao. Clone type shit
I am just going through the movie and I have to ask: is Tanya retarded? She really hoped the Federation command wouldn't be able to read the map and conclude that Tigenhof is an extremely important city for the logistics and that having a pocket with port access isn't a good idea?She should be fully fucking aware of the threat that notSoviets pose and what they are capable of. I get that she hates communists beyond all reason and thus thinks they are retarded beyond all reason. But you know, WW2? Stalingrad? Uranus? Bagration? Is her hubris really that pronounced the discards all of this?
i was thinking of rewatching the movie for the tanya ryona
>>289036584>>289036452Wouldn't be surprised. One of the main issues the first missionaires encountered in Japan is that the average person brought up on gods being all around and not omnipotent, sometimes even weaker than a baby child, was unable to grasp strict monotheism and omnipotency. It took a lot of effort and it never really clicked for them, as seen by their complete misunderstanding of God's mercy and understanding when they made people step on a cross to test their true religion when Christianity was being prosecuted.
>>289036653love that artist
>>289036602Nah, she's quite aware of how dangerous they could be, but also knows how weak they were without Not!US support.And she isn't entirely wrong to be fair. Without WW1, Tanya's world Not!US isn't WW2 ready at all. Zettour and Tanya have already dabbed on them several times and drove them to a logistical and PR nightmare by tricking them to liberate Not!Rome.
we all watched the desert pasta ova right?
>>289036879yeh, saved a lot
did we get a proper date on the first episode or not just yet
>>289004240>I haven't read the LN's but isn't Tanya's point that Being X isn't actually God?No, He is literally God, Tanya is just an asshole.But to be fair, God is also being an asshole to Tanya.
>>289004676>God is clearly the loser here if they can't get 1 guy to cave.Have you read the bible? God does this shit all the time.
>>289037022yarp, though my nigga Romel got cut
>>289037117>>289037168truly we are made in his imageor vice versa
>>289036602>is Tanya retarded?yes, it's literally the point
>>289036602>is Tanya retarded?Gee dunno, it the asshole Ex-HR dude who is so deep into theoretical terminal capitalism that he cannot fathom the obvious truth that the being that reincarnated him into his own worst nightmare might just be a god, and truly believes from the bottom of his heart that he will one day be able to shoot said being that can act on the world without ever materializing into it a retard?
>>289035455>Free willNo such thing, if X already knows how it all ends.
>>289037587>No such thing, if X already knows how it all ends.Being X knows every way it can end, but it's up to Tanya because she has Free will.
>>289037587he literally doesn't which is why he is testing tanya's theory, which also means he isnt omniscient
>>289037587Yeah, that's the main thorn in the side every atheist has against most religions with an all powerful and all knowing being. Welcome to Theology 101.
>>289037653>Being X knows every way it can end, but it's up to Tanya because she has Free will.So it also knows THE way it ends. Therefore the will is not free.>>289037666yes and that's why X is not God.>>289037687And yet, no religion has solved the issue except pr*testants and their solution is horrible.
>>289037741i vaguely remember calvinists have the worst solution
>>289037666>which also means he isnt omniscientlmao. Abrahamics have to wrangle with that shit too and theirs is still explicitly all knowing. It means shit.
>>289036602Tbf tanya isn't a general, tanya is that guy that knows a lot of book and history, but put it into an actual conflict and they will struggle. Reading tgat shit is completely different from actually being there.
>>289037741>So it also knows THE way it ends. Therefore the will is not free.You are retarded, God can make predictions, if a crackhead gets some crack they will likely do the crack, but there is still free will, they can choose not to.Free will is not removed because people can accurately predict things retard.
>>289037741>and their solution is horrible.>>289037741calvinists have the worst solutionQRD?
>>289037818tl;dr whatever you do it doesn't matter you're either saved or not.
>>289037818"God is a clockmaker" meaning once everything is set it motion at the creation of the universe, all events are predetermined.
>>289037813Anon, an omniscient and omnisapient God by definition knows what the crackhead will do and can do something about it but doesn't, which again loops into knowing what the crackhead will do.The religions claiming people have free will despite that being incompatible with the 2 most basic and agreed on characteristics of the abrahamic god is the strongest argument atheists have against it, and it just ends up on some "part of god's plan" pet phrase bull, like an all powerful being needs a plan at all.
>>289037906>>289037916Might just be me that neither of those sounds like a solution to the free will paradox.
Noooooo they fucking conscripted Thomas!
>>289038008anon i called it the worst solution, as in it solves nothing and creates new problems
>>289037961>can do something about it but doesn'tBecause he gave humans free will.>The religions claiming people have free will despite that being incompatible with the 2 most basic and agreed on characteristics of the abrahamic god is the strongest argument atheists have against it, and it just ends up on some "part of god's plan" pet phrase bull, like an all powerful being needs a plan at all.No, God knows everything you can do (therefore the thing you actually will end up doing.) this has no impact on what you will do.God can do everything about what you will do, but won't because he gave people free will (outside of the advice he has given to humanity, that does count as influence God has over humans, so we can't claim God has done nothing) but this does not restrict your free will any more than someone telling you drugs are bad impacts your free will on the crack issue.There is no incompatibility here, you are just retarded.
>>289038008Well it's *a* solution, but not a very satisfying one. Which is why people argue about it to this day.I do find it funny that Max Stirner or whatever he's called before he becomes Tanya, pretty much takes ten seconds to declare "God cannot be real because there is suffering in the world!" As if people haven't debated back and forth about this for thousands of years.
>>289038076I mean true but it's still a good point. Also it's ironic because sonzai x reincanating him proves his (tanya's) suffering point. If he can reincarnate people he can stop it. He just doesn't want it.
>>289038059The free will paradox assumes total omniscience and thus determinism or in other words that God doesn't just know all possible things, but the one way that things actually go down.It's not that God knowing everything violates free will, just that determinism which allows for the most complete form of omniscience violates free will.Omniscience stipulates determinism, determinism stipulates no free will.If God only knows possibilities but not what will actually happen, he is not omniscient. You're arguing for a God who isn't omniscient but just knows a lot of stuff.
>>289038059Put that way it almost sounds reasonable, but the fact remains that it he 1000% knows what I will do before I do it, it means that it was somehow either preordained.>He beat temptation? I already long knew he would.>He fell to temptation? I already long knew he would.I guess I do understand your overall point that in the end, I made the choice wih my own knowlegde, even if the level of freedom is debatable, as the fact that religions are still shitfling after 2000 years over this, in arguments I probably am indeed too retarded to put into words.
>>289038276this is accurate, and if i might add free will makes no sense. if you follow it to its logical conclusion the only options are determinism and randomness. you actually want your choices to be determined based on the content of your experiences and personality.
>>289037906>me believing in God is proof that I am God's beloved and chosen, and I can never do any wrong or fall from grace>anyone not believing in God or faltering from faith is sub-human trash, hated by God and can never amount to anything>I am simply born better than you and this cannot be changed. How convenient for Me.Absolute Narcissism. What is there to even debate?
>>289038674and you can keep believing it no matter how many hookers you strangle
>>289038674>surprised by a glorified sect cutting all ability to debate from the getgo
>>289038767for me? it's francescansbenedettini also get a pass
>>289036602>she hates communists beyond all reason and thus thinks they are retarded beyond all reason.they are retarded beyond all reason., just look at the Winter War or Soviet Afghanistan.
>>289040009What about things in between Winter War and Afghanistan?
>>289040276>What about things in between Winter War and Afghanistan?Very mixed results, The Cold War was an issue that had to be addressed on a case-by-case basis because it was primarily a war of logistics and political influence, anyway it ended bad for them.
>>289041546why did sonzai x give tanya buttfangs?
>>289037906Calvinism is basically the cosmic gacha system.>roll savedeternal bliss, all your suffering was character development>roll damnedlol enjoy being a prop in God's glory cutsceneAt least Tanya's hate for Being X makes sense if this is the ruleset. Who the fuck would worship a guy who made most of the server as furnace fuel just to prove a point?
>>289037587Being coterminous (experiencing all of time simultaneously) doesn't mean your decisions aren't being freely made though, it just means God is witnessing all of your decisions be made at the exact same time.>>289038674>What is there to even debate?Unironically, that God isn't evil. That is almost every calvinist vs non-calvinist debate nowadays.>>289037916Yeah, this is why deism collapses into pantheism/atheism. Absolute divine simplicity fails for this reason too.Tanya should just be able to debunk Being X's claims by saying that if he shows passions/emotional change or asserts that convincing Tanya of the existence of God is an unfulfilled potentiality, he violates divine simplicity.
>armchair theologians: the threadyou lack faith
>>289020999>be post the world war journalist looking in to this almost mythical super child soldier "angel" that people keep claiming is not even real and just war propaganda>manage to track down footage of her from some very questionable source>it's just some loli on a tape in some pedo's porn collection>think to yourself, this is the final death end, she must not be real at all.
>>289015240https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanford_prison_experimentTIL
>>289042882Theology is only possible without faith.Diligent and critical study of scripture can only happen through a lens of irreverence.
its sonzai x that lacks faith and is trying to get some more. anyway instead of complaining that prosperity has made a religion made for the poor and downtrodden less popular, why doesn't sonzai x create a religion for the prosperous? like scientology or something.
>>289042995>Theology is only possible without faith.what the fuck are you talking about you stupid retard? debating faith was one of the main ways of proselytizing people, why do you think there are 543674837786435 sects of christianity?unironically go read a book
>>289043059>pr*testants
>>289043175im an ora et labora guy
>>289032427I'm starting to understand why mods delete religious discussion. Some of the posters here are so stupid that nobody would believe they're 18. It's probably a legal liability to the site.
>>289004170>Defies God>Wins by finding happiness
>>289043059the only thing theology is good for is shitposting
>>289029533>the anime is goodThe anime art is horrendous and carlos zen should kill himself right now alongside the director for being turbofaggots, Shinobu Shinotsuki's art was fine as it was, they just had to follow it exactly like that and ignore literally everything else carlos wanted and his shitty ass eleven opinions, I hate light novel authors so much, allowing them an single inch into the anime industry was a mistake
*carlo zen
>>289043549get ducked and frogged idiot
theology is just really, really old morality powerscalingwhy do you think latinos are so obsessed with Jesus AND Goku, they're the same thing just one fights physically and the other spiritually
I hope it's revealed that Tanya married Serebryakov after the war ended
>>289043868i can see that, i do like both
>>289043907they actually both marry me and have 4 kids each
>>289032696>I bend the knee to animals stronger than me that could kill melmfao what a pussy. my wife ran off a bear this morning that was trying to eat our chickens, and she was pantsless at the time. you're pathetic.
>>289011734>>289012826You guys actually don't understand or even know what you're talking about, just saying. If you make a habit of doing that kind of thing, you're probably pieces of shit.
>>289044095ok, now do the same to a hippo
>>289032696>I respect nature and animals, and bend the knee to animals stronger than me that could kill meJust fucking kill them. You are a human, THE apex predator.If there is a God, he should be afraid.
>>289044111>you're wrong and also a bad personyep, now that's a solid argument
>>289029533>Is the manga a good way of experiencing the story?I would say so. All three versions of the series offers something different. Anime is more action oriented, the LN is more "Let's read about logistics and theories about war planning", while the manga is a mix of both. >>289043907I'm pretty sure it's going to be revealed that she's infertile due to being malnourished during her time at the orphanage as well as all of the shit that she went through during the war
Anons, be sincere:If you where turned magically in or reincarnated as a woman?Would you have sex with a man?
>>289044365no, that would be gay, is my answer whilst having a male mind and body. some things can change with experience, like how fat people that never exercised don't know how exercise can feel good. perhaps eventually i would feel differently if i lived as a woman long enough.
>>289044436and i should add this wouldn't be a good gotcha argument because it doesn't matter whether tanya thinks its gay to fuck me, what matters is its not gay for me to want to fuck tanya.
>>289044365I somewhat believe I am too prideful and attached to my manhood to ever do so, but I also kinda believe that humans adapt really easily and I would maybe corrupt myself by masturbatingI mean, that's what internet trannies are, men so sexually frustrated that they experiment to the point of wanting to become a girl because that's easier than going outside and getting a girl
>>289004170The only path to success is to revolt against the upper echelon and become Stalin herself however doing so would make everyone else pray to god and power up being X. Plus can a salary man really go against management?
>>289044365Probably not. At first, at least.Having your brain constantly exposed to a female mix of hormones and stuff will feminize your thinking to at least some degree.Then again, lesbians exist. You might just drop in a body with the right bio-chemicals for that instead.
>>289035144>>289033768manga also has a lot of manga original staff that is pretty good, especially other Aces from the Empire appearing
>>289036602movie is basically several battles condensed in to one, Tanya fought Mary Sue for the first time in England for example
See this face.Wat do?
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>>289044365No, but I would rape Serebryakov at the slightest chance.
>>289042936In the next scene, being X reveals to Tanya that it was a shitty experimen and doesn't hold water anymore.
>all these christards in this threadPlease do this world a favor and crucify yourselves, you are a blight that should have disappeared thousands of years ago.
>>289046821Ok but first post hands with time stamp.
>>289046323swap those tshirts, keep the rest
>>289026937Being X is omnipotent and omniscient, this is proven multiple times throughout the plot.And those aren't requirements of "God" anyway. Zeus certainly was neither.
>>289047101they should swap panties too haha
>>289047144>Being X is omnipotent and omniscientno>And those aren't requirements of "God" anywayyes
>>289004676>theyYWNBAW
Since Being X is a nutcracker doll maybe we'll get an artsy scene or montage of Tanya as an elegant ballerina
>>289047987it's an amorphous beingbut tell me, is Being X male or female?it's definitely insufferable enough to be a bitchy woman, but it also portrays itself as a long-beared man sometimes
>>289048267think anon just meant using they is a tell, most people default to "he"
>>289048267>amorphous beingMan was created in the image and likeness of God, so he is not a formless being, he looks like a man.
>>289048462except that's just one of the stories Being X is known forif you believe he is God then you also believe all religions are based on Being X and all of them have contradicting details that are invented by humans and not realBeing X doesn't even show himself as a human-like being, if "he looks like a man" then why does he not look like a man?
>>289015229>>289015240>>289015313>>289021711>>289034335Sexy
Saga of Tanya the Cutie Pie
>>289025333Is Dio god?
