Rewatched the first two Nanoha seasons this week, then made the mistake of continuing into StrikerS. Need to vent.>I loved the first two seasons. They were perfect.>A cute magical girl show that knew when to shut up and let the characters breathe instead of padding the runtime.>I loved watching Nanoha and Fate grow from rivals into the kind of "best friends" that spawned an entire tag on every doujin site.>I loved the urban fantasy setting. Regular Earth, regular school, a hidden magical world that stayed small enough that Nanoha's actual friends and family got to stay part of her life.>I loved the TSAB as this low key, mostly benign org that showed up when it mattered and otherwise left the story alone.>I loved that the show respected my time and never dragged its feet.Then fucking StrikerS happened.>Yuuno? Chrono? The characters you actually cared about? Fuck you, benched. Say hello to a dozen interchangeable cadets and a small army of cyborgs the show can't even be bothered to make memorable, let alone develop.>That cozy Earth setting you liked? Fuck you, we're relocating the whole cast to Midchilda so we can spend a third of the season on chain of command and recruit training. I came here to watch magical girls beat up bad guys, not sit through onboarding for a space police force>The TSAB you liked because it stayed out of the way? Fuck you, now it's a bloated bureaucracy tangled up with the Church for no reason anyone can explain.[cont]
>Nanoha and Fate's whole relationship, the thing the first two seasons spent all their time earning? Fuck you, ten years just happened off screen. The accident that costs Nanoha her arm, the years of training, the actual formation of the family you cared about. You don't get one frame of it. It's already done by episode one, take it or leave it.>That tight pacing you liked? Fuck you, here's a training arc for characters you've known for fifteen minutes, while the girls you actually came for get benched and nerfed so the new kids look competent next to them.>Enjoy trying to keep the new villains straight while you're at it. Two dozen of them, most with a number instead of a personality, and the show still expects you to care when they start peeling off into their own arcs.>Oh, and one of the new recruits gets thoroughly destroyed for shock value about ten episodes in, and then the show grinds to a halt for the next ten trying to patch her back together.And here's the part that actually gets me. Any ONE of these changes on its own, I could've lived with. New setting, fine, if you actually show me the move instead of teleporting me there. Timeskip, fine, if I get to see even a little of what I missed. Military structure, sure, that could even work as its own spinoff. But StrikerS doesn't ease you into any of it. It dumps the entire retooled show on you in episode one and dares you to still care.Yeah, adult Nanoha and Fate finally getting to be happy together with Vivio is sweet, and the finale actually sticks the landing. Doesn't change the fact that they burned down everything I loved about this show to get there. And you KNOW the new series will just fuck things up even further with their parallel universe bullshit. I just wanted little girls fighting with sciency magic for goodness sake
I hate Nanohag!
>>289048952well nigger you got your way strikers is retconned and none of the characters exist anymore
>>289049015Which is good, but they're also making Nanoha and Fate side characters in their own story in favor of two more hags.
>>289048952RAPE VITA
>>289049073This
>>289049015>>289049038She lost her soul. I dunno who this bitch is but she’s #notmynanoha!!!
>>289049089Gently then roughly
so did the 3 of them ever… you know
>>289049310sloppy, wet and messy
>>289049310With me, yes.
>>289048976StrikerS may have sucked but the adult designs were pure fucking kino
I liked Strikers. I'm sure plenty of your complaints are valid, but it was still good imo. >>289049362Nanoha likes it messy.
>>289049540I got enjoyment out of StrikerS and didn't hate it myself but at the same time I acutely feel almost everything OP was talking about, at least some of the new characters did earn their keep IMO but for every one of those there were at least 3 others who really should have been skipped over in favor of the older cast
sex with Arf (wolf)
>>289049695
>>289048952I like StrikerS and it's because the new cadets are likeable enough to carry the whole show on their own. That said, they bungle their introductions by making their progress tied to training exercises. They should be kicking ass volume 1. Subaru is also one of the best magical girls ever created, ever. She was the template for so many sporty tomboys that came after her, while also being a homage to a dozen mecha series protagonists. Really, Teana drags her down in comparison, because Subaru is so obviously the hero of the story. It would have almost been better if it were her alone and Teana were a background character. >And here's the part that actually gets me. Any ONE of these changes on its own, I could've lived with. New setting, fine, if you actually show me the move instead of teleporting me there. Timeskip, fine, if I get to see even a little of what I missed. Military structure, sure, that could even work as its own spinoff. But StrikerS doesn't ease you into any of it. It dumps the entire retooled show on you in episode one and dares you to still care.Don't feel like you're alone here because this was also a big complaint while the show was airing.
>>289049639What OP is talking about is something everyone realizes deep down. Nanoha was probably the wrong kind of franchise to try transforming into interdimensional space police buddy cop crime drama.
>>289048976>The accident that costs Nanoha her armwhat was that again? It's been like 15 years since I watched it
>>289049151why does she look worse
I just realized Frieren ripped off Nanoha with the whole "OP MC with sidekick and two recruits" business>Nanoha --> Frieren>Fate --> Fern>Subaru & Teana --> Lawine & Kanne
I liked StrikerS because I have a soft spot for military majitek but>>289048952does make good points and I don't think he's outright wrong.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IcEbMCW-FUIt looks bad bros...
>>289051434Movie
>>289051839what
>>289051751Nanoha meets Girls Frontline, somehowI mean I'm a little scared now.
>>289051947There were two accidents.One was the movie Nanoha Detonation, came out in 2020 or so? Nanoha's arm got blown off and she's now cybernetic. The other one is in the flashback in StrikerS where one of Jail's gadget drones put an Anti-Magic field scythe through her chest, and she was in a coma for an unspecified amount of time (I think it was like a year). The latter was always seen as a cop-out because it would have been prime material to show IN StrikerS.Maybe as a prologue or as a nightmare. Instead, we only see it through Vita's flashbacks in the manga I don't remember if this is ever shown in the show. I just know they refer to it as Nanoha's 'injury'.
>>289052157It wouldn't be a Tsuzuki thing if it didn't shamelessly incorporate whatever elements of the thing he's currently obsessed with. In Dog Days it was Isekai, in StrikerS it was military manga, in ViviD it was sports manga, in Force it was 00's Grimedge. Trend chaser by heart.
>>289048952>>Yuuno? Chrono? The characters you actually cared about?You don't care about Yuuno and Chrono. Shut the fuck up. You're just made they're not little girls anymore.
>>289048952Every complaint about StrikerS on this site is just people sperging out about the franchise not being a ccs clone like early season 1. Strikers was Kino and you are all wrong
>>289052343also Yuuno Chrono and Arf got benched in A's. op has no fucking idea what he's talking about
>>289052303Also the other shit part about not showing it in the show is that this is one of the rare instances where Vita manages to excel but Nanoha jobs terribly.
Teana is best girl.
As of a few days ago (June 29) the Lyrical Nanoha VN is now 25 years old. Toraha is pretty much ignored at this point (except by Hokuto Minami, Nanoha's original voice actor, who continues to draw fanart of it to this day) but I wonder if the new series airing this close to the anniversary was intentional in some way.
>>289052431I love the idea of the twin pistols even if I think Cross Mirage looks kind of dinky and lame. Also even if Teana's best known for jobbing and getting her head cooled off.
>>289052466I don't know if Tsuzuki has much of a social media presence. There was nothing in terms of an announcement celebrating it.
>>289051751How so? Looks fun to me.
>>289051044nanoha was always magical gundam girls. the people who hated strikers didn't realize this. or they were pedophiles mad that the characters grew up.
>>289048976>and the finale actually sticks the landingFor better or worse this is my lasting memory of the series. Those kino final 6 or so episodes make the journey worth it, and part of me really hates that I feel that way because otherwise I agree with everything you wrote.
>>289052640You just wait till she lets her hair down and then even Nanoha will start regretting whom she made an enemy of.
i was just thinking about nanoha today and how i never watched the movies, are they good?>>289048952>>289048976agree with most of this but i still enjoyed strikers despite everything
>>289052831I liked the second half of strikers but the training arc and all that Teana angst fucking sucked. It suffers a bit from character bloat the same way Symphogear does where they feel the need to introduce new characters to the cast all the time
I am pro Strikers. And it's a damn shame Force didn't continue.
>>289048952I picked this up after seeing it recommended in Symphogear threads. Two episodes in and this is such a plain, ordinary magical girl show. Did I get tricked?
>>289052992Season 1 kind of sucks and is horrifying. Watch the movie version. It's way better. It picks up BIG in A's.
>>289052992first season is more like a typical magical girl show. in the sequels they realized their main audience is old otaku and not little girls the first season is still good though, keep watching
>>289052871Nanoha vs Fate is awesomeNanoha vs Vita is also awesome
>>289052992You can watch the Movie 1st and see if you like it, then continue with season 1 if you want or just skip it and go directly to A's
>>289048976So basically adulthood suxks....
>>289049639I remember trying to watch Vivid, after having not watched StrikerS for many years, and just immediately realising there were a bunch of the numbered characters in it that I was clearly supposed to remember and casually know the personalities and relationships of. I decided to drop it after the first episode, promising to return after I rewatched StrikerS. I have yet to do that, though.
>be 13 year old>Going around random worlds and blowing people up>What even is schoolPerhaps the author have no idea how to progress within the story logic which is why he skipped to strikers? Its probably hard to sell watching nanoha in military academy doing mundane training without anyone to blow up.
>>289052992It takes a few episodes to get going.Fate shows up at about episode 5.
Was this ever updated to include movies 4 & 5?Will also need to add the exceed stuff
>vita in the latest chapter of exceeds manga
>>289054265sexdid she.. get bigger somehow!?
>>289054294
>>289054294FORCEbros...
>LYRICAL Nanoha>she never sings once
>>289052992 Episodes 1-3 >Oh hey, this looks like some generic magical girl show. All they do is collect a bunch of jewels. Episode 4 >A rival? This looks pretty run of the mi-HOLY SHIT Episodes 5-8 >OH FUCK THIS IS GETTING AWESOME MOTHERFUCKING SPACE SHIPS Episodes 9-12 >FUCK YES I WANT TO BEFRIEND YOU JESUS CHRIST STARLIGHT FUCKING BREAKER CALL OUT MY NAME A's >OH GOD MY ASS THE BRICKS WON'T STOP THIS IS THE GREATEST SHOW EVER FUCK YES WOLKENRITTER WHITE DEVIL EXCELLION MODE FULL POWER NO REINFORCE DON'T GO Strikers >...
>>289049765>It would have almost been better if it were her alone and Teana were a background character.Fuck you for wanting to diminish Subaru's better half.
>>289048976It sucked but at least it gave us all that porn with their 11/10 adult designs.
>>289048952>Yuuno?>The characters you actually cared about?Good riddance to his pedo library.The only one I really miss is Arf. Yuuno can die off on the side.
>>289049310Einhart is lucky girl to have such a close friend like Vivio with such benefits.
>>289054294Haha Force "hiatus" got forced out from the franchise.
>>289056940
>>289048952>>289048976Didn't read any of that. Post Fate's ass.
>>289056982I'm more annoyed with the unironic Yunofags than Yuno himself.
>>289057629>Yunofags
>>289057677Should've known I was forgetting an extra u.
>>289048952I agree with most of your criticism and still liked StrikerS. Its not as good as the first two season, but the new girls are good enough additions and seeing Fate and Nanoha being the adults was great Also I want to lick Subaru's abs >Yuuno? Chrono? The characters you actually cared aboutI mean this in the kindest way possible, if you cared about them great for you. But very very few people missed either of them. Especially not Yuuno.
Why is he so universally hated?
>>289058873He's not hated. People are indifferent to him. He just also had people who tried to be contrarian pretending to really care about him a lot which makes it stand out, unlike Chrono.
>>289058873Effeminate design who turns into a small animal and is an inferior love interest compared with either Chrono or Fate despite being portrayed as the main one in the first series. Also his voice.just kidding about the voice, Kaori Mizuhashi is great of course
>>289058873>Why is he so universally hated?I blame few old rabid AnimeSukifags for that outcome.
>>289051751It looks good though
>>289059009>being portrayed as the main oneReally?I always thought of him as typical pet to magical girl combo dynamic than actual love interest, Chrono looked more interesting than him in that direction, but then Fate ass or red eyes came in view and everyone else was forgotten.
>>289052408Wolks should get more moments where they perform as well as the aces
>>289048952Yeah, strikers is garbage. I still think Vivio is cute. Could not care less about the rest of the cast. Anytime Nanoha, Fate, Hayate and the Wolkenritter were not on screen I just checked out mentally. Reflection and Detonation are better follow ups but still lean a bit too much into the new girls
>>289052357Yuno did get shafted but Arf and Chrono got a big enough slice of the pie considering a whole new group of girls and their dog
Yukari Tamura born in 1976, Mizuki Nana and Kana Ueda in 1980.Isn't it embarrassing to still voice them?
>>289059277Anything that pays the bills
I liked Yuuno in season 1 but after he was done being the mascot animal thingy his story was over. Still nice to see him show up though.Anyway, my hit take is Feito-chan is very overrated and also kinda done after S1.
>>289059277They'll be doing this 'til they're 90.
>Anyway, my hit take is Feito-chan is very overrated and also kinda done after S1.Not in the sex department (at least, pre StrikerS)
>>289059513and that’s only because she got replaced by this semen demon
>>289059437>Anyway, my hit take is Feito-chan is very overrated and also kinda done after S1.That's stupid. Fate has the best arc in S2 and is always a huge highlight whenever she appears
>>289048952S3 shoud be about Nanoha and friends on high school. Also they should stick to the shoujo roots with Chrono and Yuuno transfering to Nanoha's school because reasons and instantly getting their respective fan club. Also followed the love triangle established in S1 of Yuuno and Chrono compiting for Nanoha and Nanoha making a choice. Inb4 homophobe, she can choose Fate but make it canon instead of teasing for decades
>>289059704>shoujo roots>love triangleKill yourself
>>289059846Not my fault you hate women
>>289059678I really disliked Vivio when she showed up.
Super Robot Wars Mahou Shoujo
>>289048952tl;dr
the lezbot is my nibba
>>289059704Probably the gayest post in this thread, and this is a Nanoha thread. If you like cock instead of girls, Nanoha may not be for you.
>>289052303No, it's in Strikers too but only in a few too brief flashbacks.>>289056982Beside the training arc being too long (there had to have been a better way to introduce us to the new characters), they should've had a scene on Earth with Nanoha and her friends. And more Arf too, where the hell was she at?
>>289062830it kills me that they had 2 cours to introduce just the new characters who were actually worth giving a shit about and still have plenty of time for the characters we actually liked from before but instead they absolutely went overboard with jamming in a bunch of characters whose presence was just not justified at all. one example that comes to mind is that sniper guy with the helicopter device, it was painful seeing how the show kept being like "dude he has a dark heavy past and is totally important" and just waiting for the screentime wasted on him to be over, and the problem is that there were enough characters like this forced on the viewer to fill out an entire separate anime cast and then some
>>289059704>Chrono and Yuuno pursuit Nanoha the entire season>Nanoha chooses FateThat would cause a bigger shitstorm than GWitch among female fans. They'd still be complaining until today
Fate raped Chrono into irrelevancy
Chrono was never relevant to begin with tbfHe had big brother energy, not love interest energy
>>289048952I don't like StrikerS, but I like Subara and Teana. It's a complicated feeling.
>>289064930
>>289064823>That would cause a bigger shitstorm than GWitch among female fans. Not sure what you're talking about, the majority of people wanted Suletta and Miorine to end up together since episode one, specially the female fans.>Nanoha chooses FateShe has done so in every continuity so far, expecting that doing so again would cause a shitstorm sounds very naive and disconnected from the franchise. Fate literally binds Nanoha and Fate together, regardless of whatever crazy universe they get rebooted in. This is canonical metanarrative at this point.
>>289065015Fair
>>289065059>the majority of people wanted Suletta and Miorine to end up together since episode one, specially the female fans.Explain why Miorine was 2024 most hated female character among women. Also 2ch is full of nips still angry and confused over Sulemio and the official twitter account was suspended by women shitposting constantly>She has done so in every continuity so far, expecting that doing so again would cause a shitstorm sounds very naive and disconnected from the franchise.>Fate literally binds Nanoha and Fate together, regardless of whatever crazy universe they get rebooted in. This is canonical metanarrative at this point.We're discussing an AU where Nanoha stick to its shoujo roots rather than going full otaku. For starters, the Nanoha franchise doesn't have female fans in reality but assuming they included more romance and shoujo elements in S3, it could have
>>289065200>Nanoha stick to its shoujo rootsit's a spinoff from an eroge how does it have shoujo roots?
>>289065251Magical girls born from shoujo and Nanoha was very influenced by CCS at first
>>289065278Notice how season 1 started to get good the moment it stopped being a CCS parody
>>289065200>Explain why Miorine was 2024 most hated female character among women.If you read this somewhere, it's almost certainly some hyperniche poll desgined to fit a specific narrative. I'm certain that there is no wide-scale poll to back up your claim.>We're discussing an AU where Nanoha stick to its shoujo roots rather than going full otaku.Yeah, in that context I added that regardless of the situation, Nanoha and Fate and fated to get together. But I suppose in your hypothetical scenario we would retcon that too.
>>289065278>Nanoha was very influenced by CCS at firstit was only superficially copying it for a fake out setup.
Since this is a Strikers thread, why did the show never mention what they did to all the Scaglietti clones he impregnated the Numbers with? Did they all have to get an abortion?
>>289059702What is her arc in A's?
>>289064459These are the kinds of posts I'm here for
The numbers were sexy. So many great ass shots if them in those tight outfits
>>289062943Like who else? Vice has a couple of gratuitous scenes they should've given to literally anyone else. But he is the only character who gets those extra scenes. The only scene that doesn't have one of the actual main characters or main villains fighting are when the Wolkenritter fight (and Zafira and Shamal were done dirty) or the single scene when Schach and Acous check out the cave. And in that case they get no dramatic backstory drop and they are mostly plot devices as minor characters should be.
>>289065995tbf Shamal is strictly support so she really wouldn't have been able to do muchDog nigga got done dirty but he trained the second-best side character in Vivid, so it all works out in the end
>>289054045>5what movie 5th?
what are the best torrents on nyaa for detonation? [ron] seemed pretty good for reflection except for the fact that there were no song subs and my nip isn't good enough to catch the lyrics very well
>>289067120I have [ron] for both of them, but there's also Fete Rider. When I was looking for downloads recently though (for the remake movies) people were saying that for one of them Fete Rider used an inferior video source, but I don't know how their Reflection and Detonation encodes are.
>>289057628
>>289065934The strongest.
>>289067196reminds me of the ghey looks they give each other after the Subaru&Teana trial ends
>>289067275The cutest.
>>289067317Vita-chan!!
>>289067120The only other option are the bluray subs which is what the other releases use. I watched those before Ron's release. I could barely follow what was going on and later learned how much they got horribly wrong.I don't like song lyric subs since it's difficult to follow multiple lines on the screen at the same time. If I want to know what the lyrics are saying, there are tons of sites for that.
>>289048952Didn't read but grown-up nanoha is the best and the hottest.
>>289067354
>>289057629>>289056982what about Chronofags?
>>289067775they don't exist
>>289048952>and then..
>>289067775Chrono is happily married to his childhood friend
giant bed
>>289068839mmmm
Alisa is a shameless little slut that needs correction.
When will it be their time to shine?
>>289068837MADE for threesomes
>>289068839Hayate foreplay
>>289065567> why did the show never mention what they did to all the Scaglietti clones he impregnated the Numbers with? I think they wanted to get away from that. Or it was a bluff all along.
>>289065567why are those two nun sisters gay
>>289069405I don't remember if we ever got adult Alicia in StrikerS
>>289065995>Like who else? Remember Carim's investigator brother who is THE person who extracted all the info about the Cradle and its weakness? Yeah unless you really watched the show, you'd forget he existed too.
>>289059678>>289060184Belkan semen extractor (hands-free)
>>289065278Magical girls in the sense of Nanoha are from Cutie Honey, a shounen. And Nanoha is a eroge spin-off with mecha influences. It has zero shoujo roots, retarded tourist.
>strike gold with a cute, hard-hitting mahou shoujo about connection, love, family, a premise with a thousand directions you could take it>turn it into star trek buddy cop sitcomwhy. just why
>>289052431>>289052640
>>289066125She can drain life cores from anything that uses magic, even if it's kind of a gimmick attack as As showed. The movies do it well.>>289070359She and Suzuka appear for all of five seconds in a picture in Nanoha's room when they were in elementary school.
>>289070381Was that Inspector Acous, the green haired guy with the spirit dogs? He's exactly what I mean because he does exactly one thing and gets a cool fight scene so Fate can come in and handle the rest. He doesn't get a bunch of backstory (that I remember) crammed into a few scenes like Vice does.>>289070712It makes for an interesting alternate setting like someone's elaborate fanfic. I don't really think of it as canon to the original or As, just like I don't think of movies 3 and 4 as canon either. Especially since Detonation ends up with the same feel as Strikers in the end but half the enemies they fight feel like Symphogear rejects. And so do half the barrier jackets and weapons and shit for that matter.
>>289071575>Inspector AcousDude seemed to have something with Hayate.
>>289065899She comes to terms with her lingering regrets and doubts that come with her new life so she can embrace it
>>289067225Do Nanoha and Fate have "rematches" every night?
>>289067604which of them are canonically the strongest?
>>289067354I miss blue raspberry flavor Fate-chan
>>289067275I wish I had a little Rein hovering over my shoulder. I'm so lonely
two more days until the first episode
>>289059704no, don't skip middle school
>>289073578Signum was giving Fate a hard time but Nanoha was able to handle Vita after getting cartridges. Shamal is a support even though she FISTED Nanoha
>>289073726But Nanoha is stronger than Fate, no?Shamal is kind of a question mark since it's hard to gauge her power vs Vita and Singum's combat prowess. I would think Signum boosted by Agito is the strongest but barring Unison I think it's a tough call.
>>289073786Nanoha and Fate should be pretty similar. Fate actually managed to handle Vita in episode 2 (although with Arf's help), before powerups.I'd say Nanoha, Fate and Signum should all be pretty close in A's with Vita being a nudge below, and from this point it depends on matchups and choices made. Neither side had a really good time in A's and it could've gone either way so the cats helped the Wolks clutch this.Not sure how it goes during StrikerS or later though.
Power levels mean nothing in the Nanoha universe, it's all about fighting smart using strategy and experience, as was shown in one of the comics when their instructor took them down even though she had much lower power levels than nanoha and fate
>>289073892Said instructor was also noted to be a veteran ace, iirc.
>>289054045Isn't Gears of Destiny rather post-A's, basically what later ended up being Reflection/Detonation?
>>289073892>>289074476>>289073842There was also that chapter in the StrikerS manga with the kids researching the power levels of the adults
>>289070359We see Alisa and Shizuka for a page or two in the Exceeds manga. Like Nanoha they're supposed to be 13 but look more like 19.
>>289075032Crying shame.
bumparino
>>289048952>>289048976It had some good moments>Nanoha owning the orange haired girl was great and you see a glimpse of the white devil mixed with her sadness at having to put down old yeller>Subaru being exposed as a robot was good drama>cute family scenes with the Nanoha and Fate household>Vita breaking through with her hammer>Nanoha giving the most cathartic pink blast of doom to the smug girl as she screamed in terror
>>289048952>>289048976StrikerS is the best Nanoha, retard.
>>289079784Prove it schizo
>>289079784StrikerS and As, I'd say. StrikerS gets points for actually trying to expand and move the story/setting. Too bad the efforts stalled with Force hiatus and Vivid abandoning any attempts at story post volume 11-12.
>>289081200>Einhart's parents.jpgThat's bad, Anon, we wouldn't want Vivio marrying her cousin.
I both love and hate strikers. It’s a complicated feeling. It reminds me of how I felt about Legend of Korra when that shitshow happened
>>289067579I did not follow how the cats became Book of Darkness Materials, a fan wiki says the cats were told by Yuri to hide in the book during the Eltoria mass murder incident but I'm not sure I remember any scene in Detonation actually showing this
>>289081200God, I hate everyone's stupid hair poof. EVERY FUCKING CHARACTER HAS IT!
>>289084106It was mentioned in the same flashback that they called Stern their king. That was all that was really shown of it. >>289085917I love the hair poofs.
For me it's ishigaki takashi
>>289082729>I both love and hate strikers. It’s a complicated feeling.You could say it's a feeling that can't be understood. Maybe you're just turning gay after watching so much anime, Anon.
>>289087451Made for tomboy lesborgs
>>289087451Yeah I don't blame the lezbot, I'd squeeze those in her sleep, too
I want to hug Nanoha and pat her head until she smiles
>>289088247Anime already turned me into a lolicon, now it’s turning me gay too?
>>289089374
Episode 1 previewhttps://x.com/exgv_official/status/2072666732276445198
>>289091847>初回は60分放送でお届けします。Double length first episode, nice.
>>289091703god those nipples look so soft
>>289092174
Weird how there were no nipples then Vivid had nipples for a while and then not anymore.
Was Sieg the last nano to get em?
Or does the honor go to these scrubs
>>289052309what was it for Extreme Hearts
>>289092246You know who I envy the most? Erio.
She was great and I'm tired of pretending otherwise.Half the fanbase seemed to go into the movies wanting for the Materials being wanked despite them being pretty bad case of edgy clone character/metal remix syndrome with little substance, this bitch(dindu) stealing the show thoroughly and giving it actual legs to stand on was such a pleasant surprise. Detonation was quite above my expectations thanks to her.
>>289092456There was a doujin artist that devoted insine effort into making loads and loads of lewds of Erio and Caro as a shortstack
>>289092456>cut Early Access content
>>289049765>Subaru is also one of the best magical girls ever createdSubaru is not a Magical Girl. The only Magical Girls in this franchise are Nanoha and Fate.
>>289048952This is a pretty ancient topic, yeah the first 2 seasons specially the first one are really great and then it went to shit