Volume 58Naruto Vs.ItachiChapter 553: The Battlefield!!https://desuarchive.org/a/thread/274143504Previous thread:>>289038274
>>289058895as opposed to those soft, pleasant rasengan
B&W
>>289058978Fuck off Kumogger. This didn't happen. It can't....fuck
>>289058860Why bother making him faster than the Raikage when most of the time it doesn't feel like he is.
>>289059018
>>289059018Ninja's?
>>289058875>STOP HIM! HE'S USING GEOMETRY!
>>289058895Easily one of my favorite Rasengan variations. I love the visual effect.
>>289058914>Be careful, I'm...Nice going cutting him off like that, Gaara. I'm sure nothing bad will result from that.
>>289058903>tsuchikage teleports
Done!
>>289058860Ok, how did dodge mid-air?>>289058895And why wasn't he able to do that again?
>>289058957>We haven't inflicted any damage!>literal next panel shows him recovering from damageThey would have worn him down for sure if he was alive. His stamina combined with and boosted his Edo Tensei regeneration, making him way way harder to put down.
>>289058886Why is the mummy guy taunting him here? Shouldn't he still have his personality intact?
>>289058935>You are all incompetentThanks Clamkage.
>>289058922This is like the only time in part 2 Gaara has shown any emotions besides being stoic or crying over his mother.
>>289058978Tobiramabros...we were mogged again...
>>289058978>There isn't a stronger wind style user...Danzou would probably have been stronger. Possibly Orochimaru, although we haven't seen too much Fuuton from him despite it being his main element. Not Asuma though, that scrub.
>>289059338I think it's the translation, I've seen others where it's clearly more of a warning. But the Second Tsuchikage is also kind of a dick who's proud of his abilities, so who knows.
>>289059283>>289058854arigatou op
>>289059149Mecha soon after the dbz
>>289058995>Naruto lands near them only to jump againWeird sequence.
>>289058944Man it sure is convenient that no one in the entire army is mad at Naruto for being unable to stay still when they're all risking their lives trying to protect him, and apparently 40k people have already been killed for his sake.
>>289059007>>289059018>Sasuke first kill in the war arc is a zetsuKonoha girl tier feat, why is the manga acting like this is hype?
>>289059018>>289059028>>289059266>>289059283Arigatou, OP!>>289059405That's my schtick.
>>289059018Oh no, Sasuke is coming out! The Alliance is really screwed now!
>>289059371>This is like the only time in part 2 Gaara has shown any emotions besides being stoic or crying over his mother.He's gay for Naruto.
>>289059018Was Tobi planning to use Sasuke in this war? How would Sasuke have reacted to fighting alongside Kabuto and his edos? Actually, the fact that Sasuke is completely clueless to the fact that WW4 already started is really hilarious.
>>289059018We found him!
>>289059470It's so incredibly funny how anti-hype Kishi will make Sasuke's upcoming arc be. Swore he would destroy Konoha and kill Naruto only to get cockblocked and corrected by Itashit
>>289059522>Was Tobi planning to use Sasuke in this war?Originally, but I think he dropped the idea after Kabuto showed up with the zombies.
>>289059552Don't worry, he'll still want to kill Naruto and do bad stuff because of his devotion to the cause of Edginess.
>>289058886the translator didn't even try in the lower left
>>289058978Why is Kishi so obsessed with glazing the Cloud village? It has so many backstories for these literal who Kumo characters, it gives its Raikages so many broken abilities, Bee is the 2nd strongest jinchurikis and he replaces Gaara as Naruto's main jinchuriki friend.
>>289059338It sounds like a taunt but he's giving him a warning>>289059292>Ok, how did dodge mid-air?Tsuchikages can fly>And why wasn't he able to do that again?He didn't think he needed to
>>289059592Because it's Murrica.
>>289058922>you better be able to explain it well enough to persuade me!>nah i can't >then go back>noand just like that it's gone like, like an angel's kiss
What the fuck is Sasuke supposed to do exactly?
>>289058995Naruto has literally never used an actual wind style jutsu.
>>289058935He's too strong, but not too strong to win
>>289058860God, I hate the flying in this series. It's so fucking stupid. Does it count as an Earth Style technique? How does flying like a DBZ character relate to the element of earth? If it's supposed to be adjusting the weight of the user, then it should probably be a Yang technique like Choji's jutsu.
>>289059666The plot knocked on his door.Spoiler: It's Itachi
>>289059424Only Naruto being able to sense disguised zetsus is a very convenient excuse for nobody to question him
>>289059018I love this design
>>289059777Checked!
>>289058978Reminder all villages combined are fielding a total of 80,000 ninja in this whole war and somehow the raikage had to fight 1/8th of that in a single battle.
>>289059695Shouldn't it be something exclusive to wind users?
>>289059522He literally stopped giving a fuck about Sasuke and dropped any attempt to even appear like he cared about Sasuke as soon as Kabuto showed up and he realized he could/needed to change plans and had other opportunities. Sasuke literally stopped mattering once Kabuto came into the story.
>>289059552Another reason to hate Itachi
Is Itachi the wisest Naruto character? I had never thought about what it meant to be a hokage until these words
>>289059552>When Itachi says he won't tuck you in bed and kiss you goodnight after banging Sakura.
>>289058995STAND ASIDE, WOMAN. THE REAL BEST FUUTON USER IS HERE.
>>289059910>only those who are recognized and admired will become hokage>Kakashi>recognized>admired
>>289059007Is that the original White Zetsu? What a bitch way to go.
>>289059966Tsunade also cut most bridges after she left the village to become a gambling hag and she still became hokage.
>>289059957Funny thing is, Naruto's rasenshuriken did less to A senior than Temari's wind.
>>289060000everyone admires and recognizes the granddaughter of the firstwasted quads
>>289058895He really doesn't use this Rasengan as often as he should. It's really potent and cooler than just making it bigger.
>>289058995I hate this. Naruto is just powerlevel-mogging, his actual wind-style mastery is basic and just buffs rasengan. Temari is unironically the #1 fuuton user>>289059018oh right i forgot this asshole
>>289058978>>289058995>there's no better wind style user>HAHA TEMARI I'VE SHOWN UP JUST TO MOG YOU>wtf isn't that one of the guys we lost half our forces yesterday to protect?! gtfo of here?!>YOU'RE NOT MY PERFECT DAD YOU CAN'T TELL ME WHAT TO DO>does this rampaging tard at least know lot's of powerful wind techniques?>LOL NO WHY LEARN WHEN YOU HAVE BIG CHAKRA WATCH THIS
>>289060021That and Naruto calling himself a wind style user when his only wind jutsu is rasenshuriken
>>289058922>You're awesome, Gaara! One of the top 5 kages I've ever met
>>289059018Sasuke got another free power up since he literally didn't train. He just... got stonger because of eye surgery.
How did Kabuto have the dna of the previous kage to revive them
>>289058895what's that rasengan? why does it have orbiting mini rasengans? I'm too stupid for this children's manga
>>289058935fucking jobbersthey really let everyone become shinobi these days
>>289060223He's actually not significantly stronger. That's the version of Susano'o that he was awakening against Kakashi when his eyes shut down. His new eyes won't go blind and may drain less chakra, possibly.
>>289059007why is this random zetsu acting like a named character who just got mercilessly killed
>>289059371because "muh naruto"
>>289060629He's supposed to be the "main" White Zetsu. In fact, we never see the main White Zetsu again after this and the clones generated from his spores are treated as different characters even though they look the same. It's arbitrary, though, since the main White Zetsu was already killed by A at the Kage Summit.
>>289058969Does this guy have a secret Byakugan too?
>>289059592>and he replaces Gaara as Naruto's main jinchuriki friend.gaara is kazekage so he has to mostly stay in suna. he can't go on missions and directly join naruto. but maybe it was a missed opportunity to not have him lend any aid to konoha after pain's assault.the new peace between konoha and suna that they make such a big deal about in the kazekage retrieval arc goes nowhere. why should i care that naruto made peace between konoha and suna for as long as he and gaara live?maybe it was also a missed opportunity to just let gaara be a regular ninja who could go out...
and it was also a missed opportunity to not do much with naruto's and gaara's new friendship after the chuunin exams but i've already criticized this a lot.
>>289059592Kishi neglected to do much of any proper world building during part two, and I guess he felt the need to make at least one of the other villages be a near-peer to Konoha, but he left it until pretty much the last minute to establish WHY they'd be a near-peer. All the glazing and flashbacks are a cheap and lazy way to give the village and its characters feats to impress the reader, since Kishi couldn't be arsed to do so earlier and more naturally.
>>289058978>himAAAAAAAIIIIIIIEEEEE
I kind of REALLY like how stacked Hinata is.
>>289061106Neji...
>>289060629That's the Akatsuki White Zetsu
>>289059592Yet he failed to give anything on our favorite Kumo shinobi...
>>289061448C?
>>289061106Sakura... Just because she's shy doesn't mean you can grab her breasts in the onsen as a 'joke' and fondle them while complaining about how big they are, clearly angry about your own flatness while Hinata meekly protests
>>289061496Is he your favorite?
>>289061851I'm more of a J guy.
>>289061917He was an hero.
>>289059018will we see him job to a kumo ninja again?
>>289059283thanks, OP!
>>289058978Temari hasn't even summoned the kage-level weasel yet.
>>289059672he spams rasengan, that means he's using a wind style justu. what's that? you want him to learn other techniques? lmao no
>>289059592Maybe he just likes lightning.I wish the Mist village got that kind of glazing personally.
>>289059018>>289058995Whoa the parallelsSun God Nika uh- I mean, Naruto of Light vs. the sleeping princess cave goblin of Dark
>>289058944>"Just because you're kazekage already, don't treat me like a kid">In the last chapter, Naruto had a melty after Itachi dared to coordinate a team effort with him (after saving his life)>In this chapter, he jumps into a war zone and starts giving orders to two kages (who command the army trying to keep the enemy away from him)>>>289058995>Makes a flashy appearance out of no where just to show off>Even makes an off comment just to embarrass TemariI hate this guy. He was much more likable in part 1. But this is ridiculous. Childrens manga or not, Naruto is acting spastic just to be selfish.
>>289061106Me too!
>Sasuke is back>120 replieswhat killed the hype
>>289063083>what killed the hypeSasuke is back
>>289063083He is not the ENTER we are waiting for..
>>289063412whose ENTER are we waiting for
>>289063482Shhh
how many chapters until THAT chapter?
>>289058921It's not like he's ever seen it before.
>>289058914Ok that was a rare good dialogue quip
>>289063499THAT number....
>>289058921You know a nice low power rasengan would probably make for a great massage tool.
>>289058914>Be careful, I'm...what?you're what?why was that line cut mid sentence
Hiashi won.
>>289058978Really? Temari is already the strongest wind-style? Among what? 80.000 shinobi? At the age of what, 20? This is so stupid.
>>289063781She's just that good, you chud
>>289059427Not A white Zetsu, but THE white Zetsu was guarding him. He technically killed an Akatsuki member right there.
>>289059018I HATE THE SUSANOO I HATE THE SUSANOO
>>289058935>on the move>too strong
>>289063781i say just let her have this. let a woman in naruto be talented.
>>289059018Why is stabbing someone with Amaterasu better than just creating a flame where you look?
the word for love gaara uses, ai/愛 contains the radical for heart, so maybe you could say his scar represents his wounded heart.
Sasuke killing that Zetsu feels so random.
>>289064625As others have said, that Zetsu was supposed to be the main white Zetsu that we've been seeing throughout the series. The fact that the people didn't know that shows how much of impact that had,
>>289064987Sure, but it's still random when knowing that.
>>289064354Same reason it's better to stab someone with a sword set on fire. It's cooler.
>>289064625Zetsu also helped Sasuke in the 5KS.So that just adds another moment of ungratefulness from Sasuke to the pile.>>289065072Fire swords are actually less effective because they burn up the wound and don't cause much bleeding.Although i supposed it could make slicing something better.
>>289064354because regular amaterasu is wy too OP to be allowed to win. if it wins once, then you have to answer why it doesn't win every time. better to just soft retcon its existence and replace it with something that has actual drawbacks and is easier to write into a conflict without it being an instant "I win" move.
>>289064625He is still a villain btw.
>>289065679A potential villian, you might say.
can someone remind me why Tobi kept Sasuke alive and even gifted him Itachi's eyes when at that point he was already starting to look like an unstable schizo
>>289058978gulp..
>>289063781>>289064148Kishimoto wants a sense of scale but he also tends to undermine the world he wants to be seen as "big" by making sure that all the valueable people in the setting are people we already know with some rare exceptions.
I can't get over how dumb it is that over 40k people died just in the span of the fight with Ginkaku and Kinkaku, and literally none of them were named or important characters.
>>289059018MY HERO
>>289058886>sees naruto grow a 3rd arm>"heh im faster than u"?>>289058935the luigi strat>>289058995holy mogged>>289059018ENTER
>>289059018The soundtrack for the scene in the anime is greathttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xc7lUbWEbqY&list=RDXc7lUbWEbqY&start_radio=1
>>289058935How did these morons get to Jonin?
>>289058957Why not summon this thing?
>>289066747Died for nothing btw
>>289065884Ostensibly he had plans to hook him up to the Gedo statue for... something, possibly after he awakened the Rinnegan, but it's not clear how or why exactly. Supposedly he was pretty much meant to be a backup to Nagato in the remote case he ever got defeated or turned traitor because he ultimately wanted him to use Rinne Tensei, again, for reasons not exactly known because we later learn he was SUPPOSED to revive Madara, but he decides not to. The whole thing is really poorly written, as with so, so much in the post-Pain arcs.
>>289069898Tobi was also really stoked when he first got Sasuke, before Pain and Konan were lost to him.>And most importantly... I've won Sasuke over.
>>289059018Man it sure is convenient for the story that Sasuke is now rly rly evil and he's willing to kill anyone he fights, but he only kills nameless samurais whose faces we never even see or one of the literal thousands of white plant men, otherwise he might become too irredeemable.
>>289070886Yeah, I'm convinced Kishi kept waffling on what he wanted Sasuke to do as the story progressed. He went from being integral to Tobi's overall plan to a backup to some kind of manufactured foil to Naruto as the latest incarnation of the eternal Uchiha vs. Senju conflict for whatever fucking reason to Tobi not really giving a shit about him. It's frankly incoherent.
>>289071845Kishi decided that Sasuke won't be an antagonist anymore (for now) so he thought of him running into the solo king. Perhaps the whole solo king coming back was for this.If Sasuke was meant to still be "evil" logically Tobi would keep him close to his hip. Probably take him on Jinchuriki hunting. He'd tell him he can get his get back with Bee who humiliated him and fight Naruto again.Kishi's strings are so very obvious with Sasuke.
>>289058895what's the point of these overkill rasengan if a normal one is already fatal
>>289059018oh yeah, that character still exists
>>289058895>>289058914>>289073414It doesn't even obliterate edo Mu. Did Naruto's rasengans ever hurt anybody beyond what it did to Kabuto and Pain?
>>289058895Cool Rasengan
>>289063695He's not done yet, his clone is around
>>289059424Why would they be angry at their shot at surviving?
>>289058995Actual fun line, why do people hate Naruto showing personality beyond "I'll save everyone!!"?
>>289074869But this is literally "I'll save everyone!!".
>>289058935I love this guy.
>>289059018CRAAAAAAAAAAAAWLING IIIIIN MY SKIIIIIIN
>>289063836kuro my beloved
>>289070886there is nothing coherent about Tobi from the moment he does the "Uchiha Madara's power..." bit. especially the retcon that he tagteamed the uchiha massacre with itachi to do the real dirty work. if madara were alive and able bodied at that time, would he have done that? probably. but for Tobi it makes no sense whatsoever. that Hidden Mist/Rin shit had him fucked up enough to go kill his own family like the CIA asked him to do it?
>>289074896It's subtlebragging
>>289074869naruto has a much better version of this line/entrance at the start of the Pain fight when he breaks Asura path.
I know I tend to shit hard on this manga for every new chapter that gets posted in this daily, but there's genuinely nothing to praise or admire about the story in part 2. The concepts, the executions, the characters, they're all so pretentious, so preachy, so boring and so offensively bad. It's just all so incredibly shitty. I'm really struggling to find things that I can praise about this manga (part 2 specifically) but I just can't find anything. The closest thing that comes to mind would be that flashback with Hanzo holding Konan at knifepoint and telling Nagato to kill Pain. It's a pretty subtle and nice callback to Kakashi telling Sakura to kill Naruto or else he'll kill Sasuke, but that's about it. Is this how Kenganfags feel when they read Omega?
>>289075639The art and fights are pretty good. Not quite as good as they used to be though, but it's all that's left
>>289075639Part 1 was never good either.
>>289074869Those posts are bot reply or samefags
>>289075639why are you here if you hate everything about part 2
>>289075211>subtleFeels just like bragging to me.
>>289076474Same reason people stuck back then, sunk cost.
>>289074869What's the personality displayed here?
>>289065266>Oh no Sasuke killed a literal villain who only saved him to use him later onHe literally has done more for Konoha and the war effort that 99% of the bums participating.
https://files.catbox.moe/15mmrq.png
>>289075639It's not even Naruto anymore, it's Samurai 8.
>>289077445Except Sasuke didn't kill Zetsu or Danzo out of the goodness of his heart or even "for the greater good of the leaf", hell he even wanted to destroy the entire leaf village including civilians.Might as well give Danzo credit for making Naruto fight pain later even though that wasn't his intention.
Funny how everything would have been solved if he just didn't kill himself.
Chapter 554: The Rasen-Shuriken Limit...!!
>>289080450KCM slower than Temari confirmed
>>289080577So much for Naruto calling himself the strongest wind user
>>289080577So is the implication here that he tanked it just because he's strong, or because he's an edo?
>>289080663He is, but Fuuton just ain't enough.
>>289080638Here are dem nameless kage level guys.
>>289080725If he was alive, then it should have fucked him up on a cellular level like it did to Kakuza
>>289080725The implication is that it's because he's strong, but it seems unlikely that he could have jumped up so easily if he wasn't an Edo Tensei. The microscopic chakra pathway damage might be super effective against the living but weak against Edo Tensei regeneration.
>>289080738Why is everyone so fucking retarded
>>289080719PAPERWEIGHTruto>>289080739Temari slashing wind seemed to do more damage than Rasenshuriken
>>289080820>Temari slashing wind seemed to do more damage than RasenshurikenYeah, but that was superficial damage. Fuuton: Rasenshuriken is supposed to do internal damage.
>>289080719>>289080738>Watch a zombie raikage tank a mini nuke>"nah we'd win"Its a wonder the hidden villages function at all
>>289080767Kakuzu was also still alive after supposedly being destroyed on a cellular level though and if the same happened to Raikage here, he would've at least been unable to move for a while.
>>289080725Naruto is wondering how he even got damaged while alive so I'm thinking that Rasenshuriken just couldn't get past the armor
>>289080429Are you kidding me? The Edo tensei can still be blinded by Sun light?
>>289080668>>289080693So much for the stone barricade.
>>289081326It was an emergency speed bump more than anything
>>289080725>>289080739>>289080779>>289080820In the panels after he got hit, you can see he got a few extra cracks on his body than usual.This implies that the rasenshuriken DID go through the lightning cloak, but not enough.
>>289080541Cool sequence. Kishimoto actually drawing fights now?
>>289080719>>289080738They failed because that guy outmuscled them but their strategy was good, they just didn't have enough firepower
>>289081436It looks like that but this edo cracks are very inconsistent, Raikage had basically no cracks in the first few pages of this chapter but he does by the last pages. In other chapters his cracks also seem to appear and disappear depending on the page
>>289080778Naruto took the smart ball, let's see how long he will keep it
Good chapters once in a while huh. Some decent fights is better than dumb preaching.
Could regular Madara pierce through A3's lightning cloak?
>>289081697I think a direct hit from Perfect Susano'o would do it.
>Naruto shows up>suddenly the whole regiment jobs to AHe's dragging them down!Also the last time he tried to do a biju bomb he still failed, right?
>>289081676Yeah. The raikage's glazing is pretty obnoxious though.
>>289080429>>289081815arigatou² OP!
>>289081915Brace yourself, we haven't even reached Madara yet
>>289081915Felt like half this chapter is just saying how strong he is.
>>289081815>>289081777>>289080796Arigatou, OP!
>>289081915He's getting punked next chapter so I feel it's fine. Also he's clearly built different from anyone else
>>289081815Cheers
>>289082167That just retroactively turns it into Naruto glazing. Also for my research, he does get punked by the Biju Bomb?
>>289082300>he does get punked by the Biju Bomb?No. It's actually more interesting how it happens and it's one of Naruto's greatest feats, especially considering he has just a clone present.
>>289082395>considering he has just a clone presentWait did I miss that or is it only stated later?
>>289082461You'll see it in tomorrow's chapter. It's pretty interesting actually.
>>289082461It hasn't been 100% confirmed yet, but the original Naruto is the one with Bee and the one with Gaara's division is a clone. When the manga was coming out, we nicknamed him "Dat Clone" because of his longevity and achievements, which have still only begun.
>>289081915He is literally on the verge of jobbing..
>>289082662We moved to the point of Naruto's clones that he wasn't even supposed to be able to make, oneshotting kages that the entire rest of the alliance couldn't deal with pretty quickly, huh?
>>289082817To be fair he was already a potential Kage busting menace in sage mode and now he's supposedly even more OP (although not in every single way). His last sage mode showing was beating up nine tails
>>289082817I mean we always knew Naruto had giant chakra reserves. It all still makes perfect sense.
>>289082854>>289083036I mean in the pain fight he made hundreds of clones that got oneshot instantly, so it does seem a bit of a leap for every single clone to be kage level now.>His last sage mode showing was beating up nine tailsI'd interpret that as being more of a struggle of wills represented with that attack he never uses otherwise (at least as far as I've seen?), as it would be kinda retarded to gain the ability to transform into you biju by physically being stronger than your biju.
>>289083036I think anons point is that it just makes Itachi's statement to Naruto that he can't do everything rather awkward.
Man, i sure hope to see how all the other characters we've grown to love improved over the years!I'm sure Neji will be able to shoot gentle fist through energy beams Hokuto no Ken 2 style!
Why even bother having the other characters fight?Just have Naruto and the kages do all the work.
>>289083255Why the Kage, when a single clone of Naruto, which he can create hundreds of can do better?
>>289083312Someone needs to bail out Naruto time to time.
>>289083133Well, he's still getting help. He had an assist from Gaara against Mu. He tried to beat the Raikage by himself and it didn't work.
>>289083397Yeah, because those were a single Naruto/clone, if not for that restriction, Naruto would handle the issue by himself.
>>289059209IT TOOK 10K SHINOBI TO TAKE DOWN A SINGLE FOE?SURELY THIS FOE OF LEGEND WAS THE EQUAL OF UCHIHA MADARANAY PERHAPS HE WAS STRONGER AND FASTER
When does Sakura do something in the war?
>>289083499>When does Sakura do something in the war?Something of significance? Not until Kaguya.
>Sasuke just got a new powerup>Naruto became the "i do everything guy">Sakura has nothing but heal people, kill a single zetsu on screen and receive a love letter from someone 10 years older than herTeam 7 is looking hella lame.
>>289076796Kind of cocky?>>289076760It's like truthbragging
>>289083132Pain arc Naruto couldn't use more than 3 sage clones in combat because of the chakra batteries and I think everytime he made sage clones these were pretty effective, I'm not surprised to see that a single clone right now is fragile (and requires to be saved in the next chapter by rubber dude, because it can pop off) but can deliver one deadly attack that takes down a Kage
>>289080668so lava literally just means any semiliquid material, right? because it's so far not been fucking lava
>>289083669>kill a single zetsu on screenOk but that's still a Tenten tier feat (she also managed to take down a single Zetsu solo) so it's pretty badass
>>289084018>actual lava (Roshi)>acidic mud (what Mei spit out)>quicklime cement>rubberYup.
>>289080429>New Raesengan?She never saw one in action? There even was an anime original scene in Gaiden where she fought Konohamaru and didn't know what she was up against.
Short and simple fight but it's still one of my favorites in the War arc. >>289084018>>289084282Apparently there's some kind of differentiation with the kanji used for the styles but hell if I know.
>>289084410That Raikage is in the top 5 opponents Naruto ever faced
That pile of garbage in the middle of the series?....That was me!!
>>289084623Where is this top 5 meme from?
>>289080786Because they are not Itachi.
>>289075639i think there a handful of good moments in part 2, but i mostly agree with you that it's weaker than part 1 and loses the magic. part 2 just makes the world feel smaller and makes most things revolve around naruto and sasuke or maybe itachi and minato because they also get wanked a lot.any tying every bad thing that happened to danzo or the akatsuki is shitty worldbuilding. i don't think orochimaru needed to be tied to the akatsuki eithera lot of things brought up in part 1 go nowhere, like the hyuga subplot and didn't naruto say he'd change the hyuga clan?the daiymos get forgotten. the 7 swordsmen go nowhere besides getting relegated to a stupid war arc fight that feels like it could be filler. most the side characters go nowhere in part 2.it's weird they didn't do much with the friendship between naruto and gaara, which makes the kazekage retrieval arc feel really weird. they didn't do anything with the friendship that started developing between gaara and lee either, and lee just gets forgotten about completely.shino is completely forgotten even though he and his clan should be close in usefulness to samehada.they didn't do anything with sakura's and ino's new friendship when it seemed like they'd start mellowing out towards each other.kakashi loses his surrogate parent dynamic in part 2.naruto also generally has a problem of not following through with the consequences it sets up, which was a problem un part 1 as well, but i feel it's worse in part 2 because part 2 makes death feel like it has no stakes sometimes with the exception being jiraiya and i guess neji, but his death was also really stupid.gaara should've stayed dead and i'd say that pain's assault shouldn't have killed so many people. just have him kill jiraiya. the revival that happens afterwards is a huge rugpull.kankuro doesn't get to properly thank naruto for helping his brother. temari doesn't either. and it's like they exist in a bubble separate from gaara's friends.
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>>289084711Kengan Omega has tons of memes breaking the fanbase, this one is from a guy calling his hyped final boss opponent "awesome, truly in the top 5 he ever faced" before mid diffing him
>>289084791i was running out of text so... i wanted to elaborate that it feels like kankuro and temari never get acknowledged for being there for gaara. naruto complains that gaara had no one but he just saw kankuro nearly dead from trying to save gaara.gaara never really acknowledges them either even though he supposedly bonded with them.and the symbolism shown with kid naruto and gaara where naruto runs up to him also feels weird in this regard because it feels like it skips kankuro and temari. it's shown as gaara had no one -> gaara had naruto -> gaara has his village.i feel like there should've been an extra step showing he had kankuro/temari after naruto.
>>289080638This dude dragging kcm Naruto at the speed of light? Impressive
>>289080778>Oh, that's from before he learned the lightning cloak
>>289084791>the 7 swordsmen go nowhere besides getting relegated to a stupid war arc fight that feels like it could be filler.All of them get off-screened after Zabuza is defeated, i legit don't remember how any of them got sealed.
so, apparently there is a reason why gaara keeps his eyebags after losing shukaku in a q&a with kishimoto.>Q．我愛羅は”一尾”を抜かれたから、もう砂は使えないのですか？since gaara had the ichibi extracted, will he not be able to use sand anymore?>Ａ．砂も目のクマも、身に染み付いたものは取れないんです。the sand and eyemarks are things that have become deeply ingrained into his body; they can't be removed.the source given for this statement is hiden: sha no sho / 秘伝・者の書 at page 351, though i'm not able to personally verify this information.>>289085222they don't do much, and it's lame with how part 1 sets them up. it made me think they'd get an arc dedicated to them or something.
>>289080757>And he can handle it. He's impenetrable.What the fuck is this.This continues from the previous panel to talk about his body that can stop all attacks is the invincible shield.
edo 3rd is really high because his armor + edo regen is really op.There are two Nagato's. Crippled and controlled by Kabuto (white haired) and proper Edo Nagato.
>>289085703Edo Itachi too high imo, still below Pain.
>>289085743Nothing is too high for Itachi.
>>289085703War Temari should be in Kage.And Asuma should be lower.
>>289085703All those jinchurikis are gonna stay in the last tier aren't they
>>289085829They could join the not impressed tier.
>>289084472>Apparently there's some kind of differentiation with the kanji used for the styles but hell if I know.Yeah, I think that Roshi's Youton was introduced with a kanji that means fire while Mei's Youton was introduced with a kanji that means water, but I don't know if it was changed in the volume release or used consistently afterwards for Kurotsuchi and Dodai's Youton.
>>289085743I have to acknowledge how busted Itachi is. If you think Pain wins that's fine but it's still a tough fight for the paths.How do you see their fight play out?
>>289081815thanks op.>>289081676i disagree because the third raikage is an irrelevant character. no reader can believe naruto got even a tiny chance of losing here, with tobi and kabuto still around. we already got enough stupid useless stakeless fights, but that's the war arc for you. maybe the editors were too afraid to speak up to kishi for all this bullshit.
>>289085222>All of them get off-screened after Zabuza is defeated, i legit don't remember how any of them got sealed.I think Sai was shown yanking one of them into a scroll with his painting.
>>289085829I hope they get to be Kage's.
>>289085936I think this Itachi can definitely punch above his weight class now that he has unlimited Susano bullshit so he has a decent shot at beating someone stronger like Nagato but I don't think he's gotten a boost big enough to put him above everyone from the tier below because the rest of his stats remain the sameLower end of PAIN tier seems a bit more accurate to me but it can be debatedAlso 3rd Raikage should be higher in his tier imo, at least around Kisame, 10000 enemies is insane
>>289085829They are hard to define because they are being controlled by Tobi and Kabuto simultaneously as well as having their own minds.
>>289083669>Naruto became the "i do everything guy"kek
>>289085959I think that's a really bad way to see it. NARUTO, the manga, lasts 70 volumes. You know Naruto's not losing to Gaara and dying in volume 15. Whether you can tell the hero is dying or not here is irrelevant to a fight quality. Should Naruto only fight Madara and Sasuke and nobody else? Should we NEVER see any Kage or opponent that isn't like one of 4 main characters? Should we kill all worldbuilding?Hell, this Naruto is a clone. He could lose for all we know.
>>289085703GEDO is overrated. We will see later that it needs protection from Bee and Kakashi, separately. It has some good offensive power and a ton of chakra but it is only on the level of a bijuu.
>>289086009>Lower end of PAIN tier seems a bit more accurate to me but it can be debatedI can put him behind paths of pain. If nobody objects. Still I think he could take Nagato(Kabuto). He had to get help to break the chibaku tansei, but that doesn't mean he would put himself in that situation as easily. He had to save Naruto and Bee.>Also 3rd Raikage should be higher in his tier imo, at least around Kisame, 10000 enemies is insaneI'll wait till we get more of the fight. Again it's Kabuto who's controlling the edo. He makes 3rd act like a strong meathead.
>>289085703>Itachi wank making it even into the powerscale chart*pukes*
>>289086130Yeah I think he can beat Edo Nagato, he just has to land Totsuka so he has a decent shot. But can he beat, say, a Raikage? Maybe, but with ease? 10 times out of 10? Probably not imo
>>289085703why is gaara's dad in the bottom tierhis sand is golden
>>289086160Deidara...
I still can't believe someone as busted as healthy Nagato was one-shot by Itachi's chakra mech's special sword xD fucking disrespect
>>289085703Wait, why are the Tsuchikage so high? Have they done anything other than fighting each other with beams?
>>289086073in my opinion it was one of the worst ideas kishi had (one of the many in shippuden) to summon all these LEGENDARY KAGE THAT DEFEATED BILLIONS and then let them job in two chapters at best. i cant take them seriously, and 3rd raikage is just the last of the many. like, get in line nigga. no way naruto would have died against zabusa after 4 volumes (maybe less, i dont even remember) but you could tell the stakes were real, it was a fight to the death and the outcome wasnt predictable, not in the how anyway. here i find it hard, actually impossible to care. you had tenten defeat kakuzu in a single panel. let the final boss enter already because the whole lore is becoming a farce with this endless job parade.
>>289085877They're gonna do a lot better than these jerked off Kages against KCM Naruto and Bee though>>289086023Pretty sure they don't have their own minds at this point. And the ranking is only for the Edo versions, since the only one that appears alive is Yugito and the scaler anon REFUSED to place her correctly!
>>289086309Beams which can destroy just about anything. They can fly. Mu can be invisible. They are fast enough to combat kcm Naruto. They have qualities that would be very difficult to deal with by other characters.
it would be interesting to see a powerscale chart of "natty" shinobi, no special bloodline, no special eyes, no special fucked up golem experiment (Kabuto)though I guess it would be Might Guy at the top and and massive power gap so maybe boring
>>289086374>Beams which can destroy just about anythingNot demonstrated on any opponent so far.>They are fast enough to combat kcm NarutoOne of them just got blitzed and oneshot by a clone.
>>289086378No sharingan Kakashi who is below Asuma.
>>289086319This is a pretty uncharitable reading. This guy isn't Madara, he's still a legend and a monster, yes he dies in 3 chapters but he still had a shot at taking Naruto (although that was a clone, kek) and was a menace to this entire division. And he's fighting one of the strongest guys in the world right now, assisted by other strong people and getting intel.Are we going to blame Kishimoto for giving this big ass army some pretty nice fights and threats to handle? He's finally drawing some fights, let's be thankful for it. The fights are decent too, for once.
>>289086414>Not demonstrated on any opponent so far.isn't it implied it would have one shot Sasuke even under partial susanoo
>>289086378Gates are just as much a cheat as all the other things.
>>289086445Yeah, but Gai TRAINED for those.
>>289086439Yes it isThat guy isn't discussing in good faith
>>289086414>One of them just got blitzed and oneshot by a clone.A very high level clone, actually the most impressive single clone in the entire manga, and Mu was also facing two other Kages at the same time. And he's technically not defeated.
>>289086604if he's so great, how did he die? only losers die
All Temari did was hurt 3rd Raikage. No big deal.
>>289086620Hashirama was a loser?
>>289080466>>289080487>tracing goku vs freezasasuga kishi
>>289086620>if he's so great, how did he die? only losers dieHe double-killed against Second Mizukage, who is also quite powerful as you'll see.
>>289086649he died, so yes.
>>289086655Frieza was controlling them from a distance. I'd say the juke Goku gave Frieza was a bit better but I like this one
>>289086511Jinchuriki had to train as well!
>>289080466We have established last chapter that Naruto has no air mobility options. He's in free fall here.>>289080487He grabs the Rasenshuriken from BELOW>>289080514We see that before the Rasenshuriken reached him he has hit the ground.Conclusion. The sequence of 3rd dodging and Naruto re-throwing his Rasenshuriken was blatantly sub sonic in nature. If it was hypersonic, lightning or even light speed, Naruto would have been frozen in the air.Thank you for listening to my TEDTalk.
>>289086445Anyone can do get the gates though, it's like the generic free for everyone supermode
>>289086996So why doesn't Madara use the gates? Obito? Kabuto? Are they stupid?
>>289086996Except noone except for Guy, his father and Lee can learn them. And his father was literally Manabu Akado tier aside from the gates, so it's practically a bloodline skill that Lee also picked up.
>>289087065>>289087095Kakashi uses it, at least in the anime. The rest I guess don't bother because they'd rather focus on their unique skills like Sharingan or Orochimaru dick riding. And it's not a bloodline skill or even a hidden technique, Lee is unrelated to Guy and Guy just taught him it, could do it to anyone. Could've taught Neji might've helped him survive those killer sticks. It's a bit of a plot hole that at least a few of the Eight Gates isn't like standard among ninja like substitution or transformation but I guess Kishimoto didn't want everyone having the same powers. I'd like to see ninjutsu with the Eight Gates at some point, no reason you can't do that right
>>289087202It's not a bloodline skill, but it still can only be learned by those three people, when everyone would have a reason to want it.
>>289086414>Not demonstrated on any opponent so far.It is said that only Onoki can fight Mu because apparently having Particle Style is just THAT good.
>>289086996Anyone get it, although they are like natures, you need an affinity to it to be really worth spending your time trying to learn them.
>>289086824yes but have you considered that gravity in the Narutoverse is far far far stronger so free fall is a significant fraction of the speed of light?
>>289087558I mean, flying guy who can shoot lasers at you? Yeah unless you're a crazy top tier nobody else can take you. Gaara would have a shot and we know Tsuchikage managed to get the double kill, but both Oonoki and Mu are probably top 10-15 of the verse (not including Madara/Hashirama)
>>289088445>both Oonoki and Mu are probably top 10-15 of the verseHigher, I'd say. Above the Sannin and it's hard to say how Hiruzen or even Minato beats them.
I hope you genwunner bitches are happy with what you did. They are investing heavily in OG garbage, not even new content like those shitty 4 episodes. No. Theatrical release (yuck), TCG (no one gives a FUCK about these ponzi schemes) and a fucking PUBG crossover... fucking PUBG. Ladies and gentlemen, rock bottom.All because you won't read Boruto.
>>289088869Top 10 seems accurate, I don't think they have a free W against... Pain (Nagato), Itachi, Minato, Guy, Jiraiya, Tobi, Kisame, Bee, KCMruto, Gaara, Deidara... Even Danzo arguably. Not counting Narutos since we have many versions. Oro's big thing is being immortal but this would kill him. And of course new Kabuto is stronger than anyone above.
>>289088869Apparently old Hiruzen was stronger than all the other 4 kage and Orochimaru was on par with him so
>>289059018We've finally reached the point where the series is making a comeback—it's been a really long time
>>289087432the training for it is so insane that only the most dedicated of psychos would subject themselves to it.it was a missed opportunity for it to not have been related to those ninja monks, an allusion to how the ability is based on shaolin kung fu mysticism.
>>289087432you also have to consider how useful it is for actual NINJA work relative to the effort needed to learn it. the manga shifts towards standard battle shonen open fisticuffs, but in-universe it's supposed to be unusual for ninja on ninja open combat. the lion's share of their work is intel gathering, protecting VIPs, and assassination. covert stealth ops. lighting yourself on fire and levelling half a village with a giant peacock is incongruent with that. it's too specialised and niche for the vast majority of ninja, why spend all that time learning a technique you'll have minimal use for for your day to day work when you could spend less time learning an ability that plays into your natural talents instead and will actually help you do your job?
>>289088870wtf? really? pubg? all the characters look ugly in the pubg style... and they gave gaara pupils for some reason. very cursed...>genwunnersit's not my fault. i'm more of a part 1 fag but they're doing shippuden. so they're appealing to gen 2 fags, actually.
>>289089216>Apparently old Hiruzen was stronger than all the other 4 kageI’m calling bullshit on that. It was his reputation but only because Oonoki was too lazy to do anything. Flight plus disintegration plus weight control is way better than anything Hiruzen ever showed. The Raikages would also be very difficult for Hiruzen to beat, but at least they lack versatility.
>>289089340This is the start of what most consider the peak of the war arc, with the Second Mizukage’s fight and [REDACTED]’s big entry coming up.
>>289087065Because it's literally useless to him, Guy was only able to pose a threat to him after the move that will literally kill you, people seem to forget that when bringing the gate to wank Guy. It literally put you out of comission once it's over why would you bother with such a high risk low reward technique when you have a thousand other option that are more safe and consistent.
>>289089216That was in very early Naruto when something like mastering the 5 elements was supposed to be the peak of shinobi prowess, that has been retconned since and Hashirama stand above all now.
>>289085703>the guy who KWABED deidara lower than himI see you're one of those cretins.
>>289090078The Second Hokage’s big feat in Part 1 was making a water wall using just his own chakra and no preexisting water source. The ANBU and even Orochimaru were impressed. In Part 2, that exact same feat is done by Kakashi, Darui, and Mei, a bunch of random no-names, and of course Kisame barfs up entire lakes.
>>289090123Why are Sasuketards like this?
>>289090168Real answer: this is a children manga, a badly written one even, and you're dumb for "scaling". It's not even about part 1 and part 2, Tobirama was making puddles and getting praised for it while 12 year old Naruto's summon was spitting water bombs that made it rain all over the giant forest and were compared to tsunamis. IT DOES NOT MAKE SENSE
>>289090176why are YOU like this
>>289090168t-th-that's because Oro's edo tensei was imperfect
>>289081815thanks again, OP!
it's actually kind of surprising to me how often i see opinions that the pain assault and sasuke vs. itachi were the highest points of the series. i don't mean to be insulting or anything. just kinda makes me wonder, who am i to shit all over part 2 if it dealt with the kind of content the fans wanted?just makes me see kishimoto did do something right with part 2 even if i don't like it much. i can acknowledge that.but also, maybe naruto was never meant to appeal to me. it seemed to become focused more on "hype moments/aura farming" than well thought out story telling. but maybe that's also a gross oversimplification.
what kishimoto wanted to do early on with having more adventures with team 7 is unironically what i would've wanted, but then we might not have gotten the chuunin exams, conversely. i kinda wonder how much of kishimoto's story telling is based on what he thinks would be popular with fans vs. what he personally would've liked to do though since that's why we even got the chuunin exams in the first place.
>>289090168Man that water shit was unimpressive even way back then, first Hokage creates entire forests out of nothing but I'm supposed to be impressed by water boy? Plus you see Hiruzen spit mud which grows into 20+ foot tall rock wall, is that not equally as impressive as making water out of nothing?
>>289090586>it's actually kind of surprising to me how often i see opinions that the pain assault and sasuke vs. itachi were the highest points of the series. Are you sure you're not confusing it with people mostly referring to the highest point of part 2 exclusively. I've been around long enough to know when people want to talk about the "peak" of Naruto it's usually the chuunin exam or Sasuke retrieval arc that get brought up which i personally think is just mostly nostalgiafags of specifically the anime. Part 2 always get shitted mostly because of what happened near the very end but everything building up to the war arc was still consistent in term of writing to Part 1 as much as people like to pretend it's inferior.
>>289080638Oh my god, that's disgusting.
>>289090586Which part of Naruto is your favourite? Or do you not really like anything about it?
>>289090818The war arc and ending did irreparable damage to this series and to part 2's reputation in particular
>>289090818i mostly see either chuunin exams or pain's assault thrown out as the peak of naruto.lately, i've been seeing people say jiraiya's fight with pain followed by pain's assault followed by sasuke's fight with itachi is the highest point of naruto. it's because of all the big hype moments back to back i assume.and yes, i am a nostalgiafag for the chuunin exams and early naruto in general, but i think part 1 also genuinely holds up better than part 2 writing wise even if part 1 wasn't perfect either.i will fight you that part 2 had consistently good quality, same quality as part 1, up to the war arc.i agree that the war arc is the worst, but for me, part 2 is just generally worse than most of part 1.>>289090991i like most of part 1. chuunin exams were my favorite, ironically. i guess i just really enjoyed how all the characters had a lot of little moments making them feel full of personality and how it felt like anything could happen. my favorite part in part 2 is probably how they handled jiraiya's death.i don't completely hate part 2, i just don't enjoy much about it. there are a handful of parts i liked but the general direction just isn't enticing to me. i'm >>289084791but i also don't want to just sit and whine that naruto as a series wasn't what i wanted it to be.i still come to these threads because i care about naruto. idk. it's a weird feeling.
>>289090586I think that's shipudden only, I would still consider it the peak in a narrative sense, where the main antagonists up to that point take the center stage. The chunnin exams are the most iconic, culturally relevant part of naruto.
>>289091440>The chunnin exams are the most iconic, culturally relevant part of naruto.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQukhWfbe68
>>289091440>the peak in a narrative sense, where the main antagonists up to that point take the center stage.i guess i can see that, but i preferred orochimaru and gaara as antagonists. although, that's partially due to personal preference of enjoying the more individualistic nature of them over the "wanting to change society" nature of nagato (and eventually obito, madara, and sasuke...). i'm also a horrorfag so i enjoyed the off putting nature of gaara and orochimaru more (and sasori to some extent but kabuto does nothing for me in the war arc).
>>289091499i love old youtube.a classic:https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SbjXmBmHAdk&pp=ygUQbmluamEgaW5mbyBjYXJkcw%3D%3D
>>289058914Man he got seal faster than I rememberI know his clone, but still
>>289085743>literally no diff solo'd edo Nagato>h-he's too high!Itachihaters seething
>>289077573How come Sakura is much more popular here than Hinata
>>289080429the what?>>289080796bad end
Licking Tayuyas face
>>289080796These chapters don't even end, they just stop.
>>289080577someone tanking a rasen shuriken to the face is just ridiculous
the way mu and rasa jobbed is embarrassing when you see how much of a fight raikage and mizukage put up
>>289095558>RasaWeakened because emotional damage>MuFought two kages at once and got hit by a surprise Naruto assist blow
>>289063632Or an outboard motor
>>289080738What would the second Mizukage say to this?
>>289058854Back in the Zabuza fight, Kabuto could make all 7 swordsmen + Haku into mindless killing machines. Now he has to actually control one Edo to do that
>>289080693so why did kabuto order him to attack the mud wall? it's not like there was something he absolutely had to hit on the other sidewhy not just ignore it? the onus is still on the allied shinobi forces to find a way to approach and seal you, hell, as an immortal zombie who doesn't need to sleep you should be taking your time anyway
>>289082300No he got punked by his own attack.>>289062699>I hate this guy. He was much more likable in part 1.Same. But he wasn't more likeable in Part 1 beyond having the potential to change.Part 2 Naruto's at that point where his personality is pretty cemented as an unbearable asshole.>>289082854If you call "showing up after the heavy lifting against the Pains had been done, jobbing horribly to Deva Path and getting bailed out by the Nine Tails again" a Kage busting menace, sure.>>289084715Real.
>>289085703I demand my wife Samui be permanently moved back into "Not Enough Data"she literally has never cast a jutsu and got oneshot by an impossible to avoid sealing techniquefor all you know she could have a kekkai genkai that would oneshot Madara (it's between her legs)
>>289085743>Itachi's below an opponent who's weaker than one he literally no-diffed on panel.Itachi haters stay delusional.
>>289097166She had a full onscreen fight without using a siingle jutsu, while her chunin buddy and Darui used multiple. She had every reason to go all out and did nothing.
>>289097207Thanks for the drawing ref
>>289097222Post your work when you're done!
>>289097243Well, Im animating so itll be a whileTheyre gonna be bigger too
>>289097166Of course boss
>>289097568I'll patiently be waiting.
It looks like more Samui needs to be posted.
>>289098142My collection of her is kinda limited, so you'll have to do it.
Whenever the SOLO KING is not on the page, the reader must ask, "Where is the SOLO KING?"
>>289098921Stop.Just stop. Itachi is an abomination. It's everything you don't do when writting a compelling character. He acts as if he wasn't even human. How can you fuck up this badly in making a tragic figure?
>>289099294>Solo's youHeh
>>289099294He should've been a villian. And not the silent reserved one we saw in the anime but a violent pure psycho. He should've massacred the Uchiha clan in a 1vAll instead of murdering them in their sleep. He should've been one of the final villains who forces Sasuke and Naruto to join forces to take down. He should've killed Orochimaru instead of Sasuke. We can still have Danzo in the story but with a different dynamic. Itachi was an insane leaf fanatic and a complete lackey to Danzo, but deep down he just wanted to kill the strongest to prove his prowess. Also the Uchiha should've been more innocent than the ucchiggers we got on the show. The current Itachi is a mess. He is sensible, intelligent and reserved yet he kills Uchiha children and his own fucking parents for Danzo of all people.
>>289099672I would imagine Itachi would either one of these>Born with incredible abilities and power. Cannot exorcise his powers given his position. Itachi always yearned for more. He was supposed to assassinate only the members of the coup. He decided to let the Uchiha know there is a murderer on the lose that is killing them. Like you said, he took on the entire clan. He spared Sasuke for his potential. Leaves and is taken by Nagato.>Itachi snaps from the weight of responsibilities and leading a dual life of an Uchiha and Anbu agent. He was indoctrinated by Danzo, groomed to be his strongest agent. He deserts after the massacre and meets Nagato who takes him in. In this version Itachi is a lot on board with Nagato's vision of the world, and is one of his most loyal members. Itachi is still tragic, but not a messiah jesus figure like in canon.
What was the reason Obito helped in massacring the Uchihas again? I can't remember. Also it's really retarded how Sasuke never seems to hold him accountable for taking part in it.
>>289099672>>289099973The leaf already had genin capable of taking down the village because they're fed up with the establishment. Danzo is just a wagie who wants to work with the system for a promotion. Itachi and Danzo are too counterintuitive
>>289100387So he would get lots o Uchiha eyes.
>>289100448That he used exactly once?
I LOVE ITACHI!ITACHI PLEASE FUCK ME AND MY WIFE!
>>289102728you really dropped off my dude, hardly ever see you anymore
>>289102728
>>289102966>MY WIFE!You don't really love Itachi.
>>289104024Kishi has a wife and he loves Itachi more than anyone else.
>>289104024Are you saying Sasuke doesn't love his perfect older brother?
>>289104043>>289104202that's a different kind of love from a lover
>>289104243Kishimoto 100% loves Itachi more than his wife.
>>289100387>What was the reason Obito helped in massacring the Uchihas again? I can't remember.Same reason he used the Kyuubi to attack Konoha instead of just taking it away somewhere and sealing it or something.
>>289102966>I LOVE ITACHI!>ITACHI PLEASE FUCK ME AND MY WIFE!Sasuke pls
>>289104043>Kishi has a wife and he loves Itachi more than anyone else.Wrong. Itachi is #2 in Kishi's heart.
>>289105215Shika is his side chick.
>>289101853imagine if his teleporting and intangibility stuff wasn't his mangekyo ability but rather him constantly using Izanagi and then replacing the eye that used it
>>289105215Kishi is never beating the allegations
>>289108986Togashi wishes he could put something this gay into Jump.
>>289108986Are homoerotic rivals the key to good shonen?
>>289110216Nah. But good rivalries usually seem, or are, homoerotic.
