Currently can't decide if this or the previous one where Guts gets a Dragon Ball power up is worse. There are just so many things that are wrong with this chapter. From the dialogue, which even 5 years from when they started the continuation, still feels extremely weird, like and AI was given a summary of Berserk and told to write more. The way characters interact with each other, like Mule telling Sonia to behave herserlf in fron of Griffith??? We literally saw Sonia act casual and talk with Griffith so many times before. Or the Godhand coming out of nowhere to diss Griffith, telling him he is a pussy ass nigga and leaving lmao. The art also suffers a lot from wonky proportions, which is really weird from the supposed studio that helped Miura draw Berserk.Kinda bummed rn we will never get the quality seen in Miura's chapters again
>>289282689Ofc not, miura croaking is the best thing that ever happened to this manga
Put a tampon on it already,I refuse to believe someone who follows berserk has such a vagina.
>>289282766kys nigger tranny. That page has more soul than all of moris slop combined
>>289282689>urrently can't decide if this or the previous one where Guts gets a Dragon Ball power up is worse
>>289282829>worst thing of nu-berserk ever>its... ITS SO GOOD! TRUST ME!! I'm not retarded I swear!!die
The last two chapters were kino actually.The FotNSiffication of the end of Berserk is probably the best thing that could happen if Miura died.
>>289282909take a rope and hang it around your neck tranny
>>289282945Yeah exactly. I don't know why these retards are so upset honestly. I mean Guts got on the boat in 2006. More has happened to progress the plot since he died than in those 15 years he was alive.
>>289282945>>289283031>dialogues are shit, plot development is shit>why are people MAD? are they retarded??
>>289282689>Griffith first time shitting his pants in 15 years>badTasteless faggot
I haven't paid attention since long before Miura bit the dust. What's the release pace like? Maybe I'll catch up and decide if new Berserk is dogshit or goated myself.
>>289283116truly indian take, congrats
>>289283126horrible. We got 3 chapters this year after a 9 months pause. The chapters are also extremely short, like 20 pages at most. The next chapter has not been announced so most likely we will have to wait at least 6 months
>>289283109The man is literally dead bruh of course it's not going to be perfect, and if he hadn't died they'd still be fucking around on Elf island.
>>289283178Then what was even the point? Let the series die with dignity.
>>289283218i cannot understand these arguments. what's the point? so berserk now cant be criticized because miura is dead?also, just to have an ending, even if its shit you dont care you just want AN ending, not a satisfactory ending?like i dont get it, truly. if inoue tomorrow starts again vagabond just to finish it and dumps out 50 terrible chapters with weird pacing, inconsistent dialogues, plot that sucks, then I hope he'll never write another chapter again
>>289283218>bruhGETTHEFUCKOUT
Don't say it gets bad, I just started reading it.
>>289282689Say what you want about Mori, I thought this chapter actually had some pretty cool art. Which is surprising given how awful some of the art has been up until this point.
>>289284198I'm sorry for you then lol
It's pretty much where I expected Miura to take it, although I don't think he would have been as in-Griffith's-face with the Godhand as the new writer isThe art and the pacing in previous chapters was much worse
>>289282945>>289283031>the story is jumping from one terrible poorly explained plot point that contradicts everything previously established to another with nothing notable or interesting happening inbetween just boring filler pages with barely any dialogue or meaning put into them, but at least the story is moving to inevitable dumpster fire>>289283447>also, just to have an ending, even if its shit you dont care you just want AN ending, not a satisfactory ending?Yes. They are that retarded, if you haven't got it already. They don't want a quality story, they want to fill out a checkbox that they've "finished" Berserk and larp as they were part of this "event"
>>289284234Is this supposed to be an example of cool art, lol? Gives me late Gantz flashbacks. They've had so many months to draw these awful 3 chapters and they're still cutting corners with such lazy shit
>Guts is le chosen one and got a powerup>Ackshually Griffith le goodUnironically still better than the boat
>godhand shows up and calls Griffshit the pathetic LARPing faggot that he isLMAOit's just perfect, he was given all this power and all he does is pathetic little man shit
>>289282689>Mori chapter with dialogue for once>it's goodWhodathunkit?
>>289282766>>289282829It is funny how there are people going full revisionist on Miura's last decade of Berserk when pretty much everything post-LC was pretty universally reviled for being boring and tonally dissonant filler.
>>289284198Just stop before they board the boat.
>>289284234>morifag defending this garbage 24/7Its the same in every single berserk thread. You have this insane morischizo who trashes Miura’s berserk while praising every page of Mori’s berserk.
>>289284507I like it because of the use of subtle value tones to illustrate the God Hand is a pretty cool way of showcasing them. Makes them feel more eerie and intimidating due to the silhouetted forms. It's not akin to Miura's best but as far as different ways of portraying the Manga currently I like it.
>>289284594What the fuck are you talking about schizo? Where did I trash Miura's berserk? You retards need to get of /a/ once in a while instead of thinking every anon on here is one person.
>>289282689Guts did not get powered up lmao. What’s up with people spreading this lie?
>>289282689
>>289283109>>dialogues are shit, plot development is shitwow just like everything after the eclipse
>>289284981If you can't recognize that Guts exploding his metal manacle by clenching his fist and easily pushing out the stone door, which took two superhuman hulks to open, with one hand is a massive powerup, then at least you sould be able read the text, right?
>>289282689It felt like Berserk was going somewhere for the first time in forever, it looks good and you're a bitch.
>>289286815It looks awful and you are a sub 80 IQ nigger with zero taste>going somewhere Into the quality abyss
This is a really good chapter really. Tells us a lot about the God Hand. Firstly they aren't on Griffith's side. They think what he's doing is stupid. This implies that every God Hand member has their own desires. I wonder what Slan in particular desires? It also shows that Griffith is willing to defend Casca from the God Hand, which is strange. She's branded, so I always assumed he had some big plan to sacrifice her in a special way. Good chapter.
>>289282766Miura desperately wanted to draw moeshit huh? Now that he is dead the manga is somehow finally focusing on its initial premise again kek
>>289284547He started doing way too much moeshit for no reason
>>289287157You're just a bitch, keep bitching.
>>289283178>We got 3 chapters this year after a 9 months pause. The chapters are also extremely short, like 20 pages at mostSo the last decade of Muira Berserk...
>>289287525>Miura desperately wanted to draw moeshit huh?He was distracted on a project about a post-apocalyptic wrestler who healed by having a loli pis in his mouth, and a hermaphroditic pre-adolescent's adventures in mythical quasi-Greece.Muira was totally checked out.
People who like the Mori chapters are unironically gay.
This was unironically the best chapter of Berserk in like 15 years
Yeah I don’t read Twitter and post it to 4chan. Reposting from other thread In the new post miura chapter I think the reason the Godhand showed up was to increase Griffiths capacity for evil but also reminding him that he’s not Skull Knight. Skull Knight was true King and Warlord who was so great he got punished by The Godhand or mainly Void. So seeing someone claiming to be great without it meaning anything is probably a joke to Void. Also Griffith is a new fag. The others don’t want to be King. They want to see evil and fun.Also OP this chapter was good and didn’t retcon anything unlike the last chapter. The Godhands entire purpose is to be evil and enter into the physical world. Did you really think Void the fucking mage and Griffith the wannabe be king have the same dream?
>OP read berserk thinking the “Godhand” want to be KingsBuddy these things are the most satanic things man could possibly come up with in one of the most brutal stories ever made. They literally worship evil.
>be unpotato'd Casca>run towards Griffith instead of away>get re-potato'd
>>289288894She's having a breakdown from her brand and the close proximity of the entire Godhand.
Is old Griffith coming back? This chapter is the most emotion he's shown in years.
>>289288914I'm having a break down from this manga not progressing worth a damn in years
>>289288931>YOU CANT CRITICIZE ME!!!!!!!!>Void : new fag just be ready for us to come into the physical
>>289285928That stuff is well within his existing feats>What strength has Guts wrought.That’s a good rhetorical question the chapter asks because we haven’t seen it yet! The strength he got was probably mental strength more than anything.
Did people really expect Guts to be able to fight the Godhand without a powerup? He could barely even touch the woman one and she's probably the weakest
>>289288931OG Griffith is literally dead. That's Femto wearing a Griffith skin.
>>289288894sexo
>>289289438There is no difference between griffith and femto
>>289289391Big series like Berserk get griftnigger OPs for interaction, people have speculated on Guts getting another powerup for years, but the nature of his restoration has yet to be seen. It's not unprecedented though, Miura has sometimes done stuff and added flashbacks explaining it later, hell that's how we got Golden Age.>>289288931At most he's more in-sync with the moonlight boy's since he's near Casca.
God Hand mocking Griffith has to be a red herring, right? He's literally doing what they wanted him to.
>>289282766is this the worst panel in Berserk?
>>289288914>She's having a breakdownThat's some "breakdown".
>>289289650it fits
>>289289650She wants the big white hawk
No, you are just a bunch of retards.
>>289282689You know, I'm actually wondering. Is the series basically going to go with "Now Guts has a powerup, it's a straightforward run to the final battle and last confrontation" or "This is actually a pretty bad thing and it's going to get real fucked-up soon."Because the first one is going to sort of be like the Wheel of Time when the original writer died: All the plots re-orientated around the final battle and bringing the epic to a close, with a lot of the sub-plots being pruned aside. It's like, they probably know they can't do justice to the full complexity of the work...So maybe it's the best, most respectful idea to go with a straightforward plot and conclusion instead of trying to get esoteric.
>>289282689I just realized that very few people are paying attention to HxH and Berserk new chapters. It's kind of weird.
>>289282689Guts' "restoration" was stupid and very anti-climatic, but this chapter was fine. Griffith is being a bitch ass nigga and they finally called him out on it.
>>289282689Well, I mean, consider what Griffith has been doing. He has godlike power, and he's playing at being the good guy, setting up dominoes in order to knock them down. It's a very circuitous way of conquering the world. Of course the Godhand is like "Dude, why are you fucking around like this? We know what you really are."
>>289287471This chapter drops several bombshells, or retcons as we used to call them. The first is that the Godhand is still separate from Griffith/Femto, and even though they still travel as four and think basically in tandem, they are in fact separate at least from him. We literally have not seen these cats since the Eclipse so I guess its hard to call this a retcon. I mean it runs completely counter to what we had seen before when Guts confronts Femto at the end of the Black Swordsman arc. The Godhand appear there as all five, and Femto appears content sitting at Void's side as an equal, and so the reader just naturally assumed that when we saw Griffith reborn and Slan encountered Guts that they were just all running around doing god knows what now. But this isn't the case? And despite Slan appearing in the real world at least once, the language of this chapter implies that the God hand just NOW figured out that Griffith has been orchestrating both sides of this grotesque puppet show? Did Slan even realize Falconia was forming when she appeared in the troll guts? Did she think it weird that trolls returned as a consequence of magical beings appearing after the second eclipse? Then theres the revelation when Griffith moves to shield Casca from the GH, does he still after all this see himself as human? Explains his current form. Apparently he didnt like looking like Birdman with no arms. Is Griffith canonically Trans? He seemed intent on protecting his old girlfriend from the big scary demons. What a retard. No Griffith, you ARE the demons! Her brand is practically gushing just being in the same room as you.Is this why Miura wanted to keep the Idea of Evil a secret? Maybe the God hand are going to sperg out, but this is all part of the IoE's plan.
>>289289650Casca craves to experience again that powerful orgasm that fried her brain during the Eclipse.
>>289282689Isn't the creator of this dead? What are we even doing here?
>>289290291/a/ is just dead these days
>>289288894>>289289467>>289289650>>289290532
>>289290291Berserk without Miura is basically fanfiction and Togashi will probably die before he even ends the current arc of HxH at this rate. So it's hard to give a shit about either of them
>>289285352But enough after Berserk after the Golden Age arc's end.
>>289287525He liked lolishit to the point that Berserk became a side-quest, so things like picrel could be created. This manga has a loli who heals her muscular friend with her piss. Disgusting element, unless you are a fan of scat.
>>289285928It baffles me that there are so many faggots implying that this obvious power-up isn't a power-up at all, and they even form schizo theories about this shit.
>>289290793
I don't quite remember the lore. What is the purpose of the demonic villains? To destroy humanity? And then what? Are they just going to jerk each other off for eternity after that happens?
>>289290532I don't care what people say, Miura was using doujin techniques. The power radiated right up into her skull. Lascivious woman...
>>289291023honestly there was not a single doujin that was anything as powerful as berserk's sex scenes at the time. you could say that Miura pioneered it.
>>289290147Sub plots in Berserk were honestly never interesting. It should've just focused on Guts and Griffith, does anyone honestly care about Fartnese Or Serpico or that shitty kid?
Bro it's a fan fic this isn't the actual series. You might as well be clicking through AO3.
>>289282766>>289282689>>289284234The story feels flat. The small but important charterer details are missing. Mori is unable to fill Miura's cups.
>>289283447>so berserk now cant be criticized because miura is dead?Worse. They only think the garbage since he died can't be criticized. They constantly shit on Miura's Berserk.
>>289282689Who cares? It's fanfic, not canon.
>>289290291I stopped reading Berserk when Miura died and stopped reading HxH when I had to reread the current arc a third time to remember who the fuck everyone is.
>casca is retarded again
>>289289534That's just it - we havent seen hide nor hair of those faggots since literally the fucking eclipseThe reader ASSUMED they approved of everything Griffith was doing but apparently thats not the caseApparently they actually had no idea? They seem surprised to discover Griffemto is summoning monsters so he can defeat them and be made a hero. So apparently these retards are so disconnected from reality they aren't even watching. They just assume causality will work everything out
Does anyone know the lore on this guy from the SK website? Every time I see his posts it’s just constant whining and belittling other people for years now and having full blown meltdowns and sperging out. He acts like he personally wrote Berserk and knows better than anyone.
>>289293793NYPA seething Morifag
>>289293694>The reader ASSUMED they approved of everything Griffith was doing but apparently thats not the caseIt's called a retcon and the Sloptinuation is chock full of them. These are not dynamic "revelations," these are retcons by a completely different author.
>retards will look at you with a straight face and say being stuck on a boat for 10 years with reddit tier humor was better than what we are getting not
>>289289534> He's literally doing what they wanted him to.BullshitThey want to bring more demons into the world to kill, eat and rape humans.
I just want closure. I don't care if it's shit, it's not like it would have been any good even if Miura was alive considering his most recent output. Maybe it could have been good if it ended in like 2010
>>289282766I recently read the last 5 or so volumes again and this stuff is much better than it felt like at the time. It's a short bit of reprieve after super heavy stuff with the SK's backstory, and it lasts less than a single chapter.Overall I was shocked by just how fucking awful the continuation is, I mean it was always bad but reading it in one go after reading a bunch of Miura chapters, just complete and utter fucking dogshit. Not even worth looking at ever again.
>>289290939They are God, they also determine the fates of everybody
>>289288931>BRRAPPPPwhy does griffith look like he just let out a huge fart? lmaoooooooooo
>>289288661Agreed, can't remember the last time a chapter made me genuinely intrigued. I pity the sour grapes faggots who aren't allowing themselves to enjoy it even a little bit.
>>289293942>retards will look at you with a straight face and say you should judge a story based on it's release schedule first and foremost>better than what we are getting notAnything is better at this point. This is the most shitty amauturish manga currently running made by drooling retards like yourself. It destroying the legacy of the great manga is the egregious part, otherwise no one would care
>>289288661>This was unironically the best chapter of Berserk in like 15 years>>289294667>can't remember the last time a chapter made me genuinely intriguedThis is like the most generic bot comments you'd see under some latest hollywood blockbuster youtube trailer. Maybe those weren't bots after all, but unironic NPCs just like you
>>289282766I wonder how much time he spent on that single page.
>>289294437but humans are almost extinct. What are they going to do once the humans are gone? What even is the point of all this?
Incoherent, flat and rushing the story. Dialogue feels very flat and inhumane. Most of the art is a mess, you can't even make out where they are
Too bad the majority of the fanbase are retarded goyim who will swallow any slop as long as its "berserk". I though the guys at SK forums where too harsh at first, but now I realise they are right. Youtubers and reddit are hellholes that will dogpile on you if you arent screaming about how good the continuation is. They really dont care about the quality of the story as long as they get an ending
>>289294879It's okay to just like something anon.
>>289295188Not the only thing that's flat. >>289293054
>>289294156I tried rereading elfheim, this whole arc puts me to sleep, you can feel miura wants to do other things and he's pushing himself to keep going despite having lost the drive years ago.
>>289295225So you admit you don't have consensus for hating on it. Guess that's why you have to astroturf.
>>289284519This.
>>289288661It's not like it has much competition.
>>289282689>The art also suffers a lot from wonky proportionsNigga, did you start reading berserk with the last chapter? It did have wonky proportions from day one. Specially before it moved to digital
>>289290532WHAT IS THIS ONE PIECE!? Calm down Berserk.
>>289293447BACK ON THE BOAT!!!!
>>289295188You ever notice whenever people talk about Berserk they only talk about Pre Boat stuff and the Falconia War.Berserk has been dead for a decade we're just having the funeral now.
Pretty wild that this is the last panel that Miura left us.
I think the igloo guts was stuck in was meant to be a 2nd boat. So Miura can spend more time doing moeshit shenanigans with Isidro for the next 2 years.
>>289297605From what they said about the last chapter, the chances Miura didn't even draw anything about this page beyond a quick sketch are very high. If you look closely at the last few pages, you'll notice some details are a bit off next to the rest.
>>289297605Ah, looks like I always have something bothering my eye when seeing this page.
>Villain's dream becomes real but suddenly he realizes that this is not what he really wantedSo Berserk was Megamind and Despicable me all along?
>>289299046the "muh castle" bit was him coping
>>289299046griffith did nothing wrong will be the final moral of the story
>>289299046We've known this for 30 years...
Did people really believe Griffith coping speech about having no feelings anymore when his heart goes doki doki.Or that the story would be Guts slaying the evil Griffith by himself along with soloing the Godhand?
wild fan fiction.
>>289299576>Did people really believe Griffith coping speechWhy would it he be coping, retard? There's no reason for him to perform theatrics before Guts, who's like an insect compared to him>his heart goes doki doki.It's not him having le good feelings when he touches his chest, retarded speedreader, it's the moonchild's feelings he's sensingThese past few chapters really exposed how bad reading comprehension of an average berserk "fan" actually is
>a guy who can kill a hundred men or swing a 400 pound sword with one hand needs a power-up to push over one of two stone doors that were pushed by a single tapasa eachpower-up fags' logic needs to be studied
>I'm going berserk against you, Griffith!Nice writing there, Mori.
>>289300569>It's not him having le good feelings when he touches his chest, retarded speedreader, it's the moonchild's feelings he's sensinggriffith is copinghe has the exact same personality and feelings as he always did, same as every other apostle
>>289295006i think they don't want to kill all the humans, they just want everyone to suffer
>>289300661>kill a hundred menThat's more about combat expertise than raw strength>b-but le swordThat's the one thing he trained all his life for. Exploding metal cuffs just by flexing is something he was never capable of doing. It's on a completely different level >push over one of two stone doors With one hand and not much effort. And after being severely malnourished for who knows how much time
>>289300713>griffith is copingYou're coping>he has the exact same personality and feelings as he always didHe doesn't>same as every other apostle1. Griffith is farther away from being human than an apostle2. Apostles change severely, become much more cruel and inhuman
>>289300661The tapasa struggled to get the doors opened, Guts sent it flying with one hand.
>>289301211>Griffith is farther away from being human than an apostleonly in power>Apostles change severely, become much more cruel and inhumanthey never become inhuman. There's plenty of extreme evil perpetrated by humans in berserk too. Apostles are all evil because if god made you immortal and said "do literally whatever you want I don't care", you would end up evil too. None of the apostles lose their humanity, they just think they do because they turn into monsters. But the slug count still loves his daughter, zodd still has honor, and griffith still cares about guts and is at least possessive if not that he cares about casca. griffith has literally always been like this, he pretends to be cold and emotionless, but he's really not, and he wasn't before being reborn either.
>>289284519And it clearly got to him too. He can't handle the bantz.
>>289301100No amount of combat experience or training will let kill a hundred men or proficiently wield a sword twice your body weight. >With one hand and not much effort. He clearly pushes the door with all his body. Pushing something over is much easier than moving it.>And after being severely malnourished for who knows how much timeHe just got a good night sleep for the first time in the series. Besides we rarely if ever see him eat anything.
>>289300661You basically need to ignore every single thing he’s ever done to think this is a powerup. People using the DOOR as a strength feat are so delusional. Guts was always much stronger than the tapasa. Powerup bros will unironically argue that this log training took less strength than pushing open a door. He blocked all these logs and shattered his existing sword in the process. Breaking a hardened sword made by Godot of all people is a massively superior strength feat than breaking a cuff or opening a door.
>>289299046No, because Megamind actually had the balls to admit he was empty after getting what he wanted. Griffith will just stare wistfully at Guts for 3 panels while Sonia and Charlotte clap like trained seals and then pretend it was all part of the dream.
This is so bad. It doesn't even make any sense, lol. Griffith isn't some lesser God Hand, they aren't his masters, they all also have their own desires. It makes no sense for them to mock Griffith's dream.
>>289291091True, but that was probably because you had the greatest buildup of all time. Miura was a odd pervy fucker at times.
>>289299576>Or that the story would be Guts slaying the evil Griffith by himself along with soloing the Godhand?Miura made the same mistake almost every shonen mangaka makes which is raising the stakes up to a point where there's no "realistic" way for the hero to win and it not feel like an asspull.
>>289301582That's not even the most impressive. Power-up fags fold when you ask them to explain all the bullshit he pulled in Lost Children arc, which includes killing two apostles 1v2 then fighting Rosine with an army of demon children, tanking a couple of explosions, smashing through a fucking forest with his body and falling from the sky. If you ask me the only reason he didn't turn Farnese's troops into a red mist is because he was exhausted.
>>289301672New guy always gets hazed no matter if it's sports, workplace, or dark fantasy
>>289301462>And it clearly got to him tooThis is the best part.
>>289291091>berserk's sex scenesUhh yeah, "sex scenes" is certainly a way to describe all the innocent village young girls being forcefully ravaged in every orifice, often by all sorts of strange and evil beasts rather than men, sometimes in front of their families too.
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>>289301477>No amount of combat experience or training will let kill a hundred men or proficiently wield a sword twice your body weight.Apparently it does according to the manga inunivese logic. And if it's not a combination of tremendous training and good genetics then what it is according to you?>He clearly pushes the door with all his bodyYes, to push a heavy object you use your body weight. Good for you to notice this. It's still much harder to push with one hand than two>Pushing something over is much easier than moving it.And yet the doors are extremely hard to even push as was shown with tapasa>He just got a good night sleep for the first time in the series.Nice xitter meme>Besides we rarely if ever see him eat anything.Because it would be a waste of pages. But it's highly unlikely he's eaten something offscreen inbetween wallowing in depression and considering suicide>>289301582>Breaking a hardened sword made by Godot of all people is a massively superior strength feat than breaking a cuff or opening a door.Oh, no! He broke a sword from THAT man during training. Now that's the real feat compared to shattering the cuff with his aura Hokuto no Ken style
>>289298119There's a clear stylistic difference between Bimboffith and Gagaffith so whatever I don't care if they cleaned up Miura's sketches, the point is that he at least sketched those chapters
>>289303560Meant for >>289297605
>>289303373The way you post is so embarrassing.But yes anon, defending against tens of thousands of pounds of falling logs safely and breaking a sword made by the best smith in the verse in the process, is in fact a much better show of strength than breaking a kushan slave cuff. I don’t even think you believe your own arguments anymore. Why do you want guts to get a power up so badly that you’ll waste so much time pushing nonsense arguments over and over again?
>>289303373You are literal retard grasping at straws trying to justify an imaginary power-up. Those doors also magically closed themselves magically behind Guts, how would you explain that?
>>289303699>The way you post is so embarrassing.The way you are ignoring the context is embarassing. He didn't just break the cuff. He fucking exploded it with his aura flex, while everyone was glazing at him like he's a god. And what else is embarassing is you treating a mere high quality sword made by a human like it's the true Excalibur, one and only>>289303730>justify an imaginary power-upI'm not the one justifying it. I'm just pointing out it happened for those who lack basic reading comprehension >>289285928
>>289304321>I'm just pointing out it happened for those who lack basic reading comprehension >>289285928Sounds like you are the one who lacks basic understanding of context if you are taking 'strength' literally
>>289301959>Miura made the same mistake almost every shonen mangaka makes which is raising the stakes up to a point where there's no "realistic" way for the hero to win and it not feel like an asspull.It wasn't a mistake, Guts was never meant to win by swinging his sword and Griffith was always meant to have a role in taking down the Godhand
>>289300569>Why would it he be coping, retard? There's no reason for him to perform theatrics before Guts, who's like an insect compared to himBecause he's lying to himself about how much he cares about other people.Even high school students cana manage to pick up subtext, seriously do better.
>>289307675>Why would it he be coping?>Because he's lying to himself>Even high school students cana manage to pick up subtext, seriously do better.The retard who thinks repeating the same words but without an interrogative connotation counts as answering the question is talking about picking up subtext he himself can't see, lolWhy are you lying to yourself that Griffith has any reason to lie to Guts about his indifference towards him? Even high school students can manage to pick up that what he's saying is truth and there's no reason for it to be otherwise
>>289308049Gee I wonder why would Griffith lie about how much he cares about Guts, surely that has NEVER HAPPENED BEFORE.
>>289304450I would agree, if we were talking about any other manga. But reading Nuserk up to this point and knowing the context of the chapters, you'd have to be delusional to assume the strength is anything other than a literal powerup
>>289308176It never happened. He never lied about his feelings for Guts as a mortal. And he definitely wouldn't lie about him as a god for whom Guts is like an insect
>>289301338Because he's the MC
>>289301582Why is Guts anatomy so weird there
>>289282689People really idealised berserk in their heads. In a 37 year old manga, it hasn't been good in over 20 years. It's been dogshit since the JRPG party and fantasia. We finally got some plot thickening in god knows how long.Guts always has been speculated to have some magical bs about him since the days of his pointy fucking ears. Him being interstitial from day 1 changes nothing about his grit and struggle. With this and his +10 divine greatword, we can finally see something substantial happen in the story.
>>289308593Miura's vibrator was in his ass when he drew that panel, please understand.
>>289308794Cvckserk was never good. I miss DONOGOD though; Guts needs his daily dose.
>>289308794>It's been dogshit since the JRPG party and fantasiaWhy does this get so much hate?
>>289282689The only person that can save this trannga is Adi Shankar
>>289282766I hate everything about this. At least nu-berserk is advancing the plot
>>289308841Because retards only care about Guts killing people with his sword and not the actual plot.
I don't think that Guts pushing over the door represents a "power up" in the same way that a Zenkai Boost from DBZ is a power up.It's not like he stepped into a room and stepped out with stronger muscles.He stepped into a room and was forced to comprehend something he never fully understood before: In the Astral Realm, "mind affects matter," meaning that your beliefs/thoughts affect what is possible. Because Guts exists partially in the real world and partially in the Astral Realm, he can change reality with his thoughts.Skull Knight and others already told him above this in the past, but it didn't mean anything to Guts until he spent time in that clamshell.Now that Guts is *consciously aware* that fate itself holds no power over him and that he can determine what is possible with the power of belief alone, he can push over a massive stone door simply thinking to himself that it's possible.Guts was using this ability all along. Wielding the Dragonslayer should be impossible, but it was possible for Guts, because he didn't see any reason why it wouldn't be possible. He's been wielding oversized swords since childhood, so his belief that "I should be able to lift this" allowed him to defy physics and wield it. His muscles or willpower didn't lift that sword.Guts was never "very strong man" but was always "man who is unconsciously warping reality with his thoughts."He's closer to Haruhi than Goku.*Realizing something* or *finally comprehending something* isn't the same thing as "he got a power up and now his muscles are stronger."So, yeah, I think the previous chapters were perfectly fine and in-line with everything that has been established in Berserk so far, and the current chapter was fucking fantastic, as well.I'm pretty convinced that if you dislike the recent chapters, you're either addicted to the sensation of bitching on the Internet, or you've forgotten a bunch of important plot details that were established decades ago.
>>289290839I really hope we get some nude scenes with her.
>>289304321It’s not just that he broke the sword, it’s that he did so while having ten thousand pounds of logs dropped on his head. This kinda thing would kill spider-man, he’d have to dodge it. But a young guts just blocks it and comes away with just a broken sword and some minor injuries. Guts’s strength feats are off the chain literally and so personally I don’t see the cuff shatter as a particularly large upscale. If he got any strength in the stupa it was the strength of will he had recently lost.
>>289309104If something doesn't exist, you just gotta make it exist.I've generated hundreds of images of Morda getting fucked by trolls. Thank god for AI.
>>289309144Got a mega link, fellow anon?
>>289308928So he's Neo
>>289308841Because Guts was the best when he operated solo. >>289308895>people care about a man slowly getting his revenge over some happy go lucky jrpg party with literal kidsyes
>>289309144Based.
Does Berserk have one of the worst fanbase in existence
>>289282689It feels like some aspects of the overall plot are based on high level notes, but Mori is having to fill in gaps. 386 feels rushed. My biggest issue with chapter 385 is the that the beast of darkness didn’t try something.I read recent Berserk kind of like fanfiction: nice to have but not what we would have gotten if Miura lived.
>>289290388If they know what he really is then they should fully understand why he wants to be the amazing king of the world loved by all, not fucking piccolo daimao blowing up a city every griffith day for shits and giggles
>>289309144Based. Could you share a fragment, please?
>>289309104Same.
>Miura's body wasn't even cold when they turned 180 degrees and made his moe topless hebe mermaid and all the silly JRPG characters literally vanish in to thin air and have Guts fight Griffith and Casca go insane again and have everything be filled with grimdark despairAre we seriously supposed to believe they're continuing the plot exactly the way he wanted it?
This chapter is so fucking shit.What they have done with Guts should have them killed on the spot.What do you mean Guts has awakened where even a member of the god hand acknowledges it.Are you fucking serious? Ever since Griffith became Femto, he ever only saw Guts as a bug.GO FUCK YOURSELF ALREADY FOR RUINING THIS FINE MANGA.Anyone in charge of this atrocity never ever read the manga and are raping the legacy of it.
>>289310890Yeah, Guts being a special baby is ruining it big time.Literally the most over used shounen slop trope.
>>289310890Berserk is my favorite shounen manga, bros...
>>289309144
>>289310890>he ever only saw Guts as a bug.that was literally Griffith coping
>>289309156>>289309710>>289309721>>289310699>>289311144Okay, I'll let you have a peek.
I don't know why but I get the feeling that some way or the other things are gonna go sideways for Griffith, and he will end up sacrificing(or at least trying to sacrifice) his kingdom and everyone in it.
>>289289622>is this the worst panel in Berserk?Second worst.
>>289311403FUUUUAAAAAARKMOAR
>>289311474Posting the third place runner-up.
>>289311546I wanna have sex with she
>>289311572That's enough pain. What's the best Berserk panel? Next to *that* one, of course.
>>289311598Too many to decide on a "best" one...Hell, there are shitload of candidates from the lost children arc alone.
>>289311474>>289311572Except these panels are amazing, better than anything miura drew.
>>289311698???
>>289311403Excellent. How many panels did you feed the model when training the LoRA for Morda and the troll? Also, checkpoint or diffusion model?
>>289290147>Because the first one is going to sort of be like the Wheel of Time when the original writer died: All the plots re-orientated around the final battle and bringing the epic to a close, with a lot of the sub-plots being pruned aside.Were there any sub-plots that were going anywhere besides the Last Battle? I can't recall.(I'm still on book 11 so I might just not know what I'm talking about yet.)
>>289311598I know I'm cheating because it's 4 panels and not 1, but this sequence. The moment Guts realizes that there might be something more important in his life than hate and revenge. Such good storytelling with just 4 panels. Individually, each panel is nothing but cool art. But all 4 together...pure kino.
>>289311748I've made LoRAs before, but in this case, I simply grabbed the Morda and Troll LoRAs from civitai.
>>289309144>>289311403upload it on the panda please
>>289311895Well shit. I know what I'm doing tomorrow. Thanks, anon.
>>289311698>Miura's chapter from the past isn't Miura's chapter from the past, actuallyHoly kek.
>>289311997No fucking way, a rare Golden Donny.
>>289308928Thanks for putting it like that. I've been saying that it's about guts' will to power not his physical strength, but never quite that way
>chapter has been set up for a good long while now and follows through on the obvious setup>"UGH WHAT THE FUCK THIS IS TOTAL BULLSHIT THIS WOULD'VE NEVER HAPPENED UNDER MIURA REEEEE"You people are retards.
>>289308928>>289309508HE'S BEGINNING TO BELIEVE
>>289282689>全てを、その手に—I fucking hate japspeak
>>289287471I don't think they were ever on Griffth's side
>>289312250Which nu-Berk fan told you this?
>>289290147I think its gonna be a mixture of both
>>289301672They mock Griffith's dream because its not their own dream or too small scale fir their tastes
>>289311423Griffith would probably try sacrificing his kingdom even if things don't go badly for him.
>>289301672>all the other Godhands have transcended their mortal failings and are able to live out their desires to the fullest>meanwhile Griffith is still fixated on his stupid little kingdom and still hung over GatsuThey have every right to laugh at him.
I do not understand people praising Miura and saying we would never have the real end when Miura literally abandonned his real story for doing nothing but huge turd during the Fantasia arc. He could have finished his story a decade ago and chosed to do shitty moe and fillers instead, completely betraying his own story and not used his many hiatus to do a real last arc who concluded it for good.Even before dying he has already abandonned the real Berserk so we would have never got the true end, because Fantasia arc exists.
>>289312843I think Miura was coursing on his laurels since he already had the end planned out and figured he could just enjoy the journey until then. By any metric, the Fantasia arc should've been something he could've blitzed through, but he had such a fixation on making every last panel as pixel perfect as possible he just ran out of time to actually finish his series. That said, though, the Fantasia arc still has some panels that really take the breath away.
>>289308928I genuflect.
>>289282689I like how Grifith mocked by godhand for playing pretend as king
>>289308928We don't even have to accept that level of abstraction for Guts' powerup because the Elfheim old wizard went out of his way to explain what baryte elementals are and they're obviously thematically entirely for Guts. Through his astral aspect he is attuned to the elementals that constrain the OTHER elementals, he's operating on some next level stuff. The weight of his depression = influence of condensed barytes in his body = utilizing them externally to afflict "weight"
>>289313175And his physical plane's weight is also fuaaaaarking impressive.
>>289313082Godhand kind of also mocked those soulslike retard gaymers who add stupid rules to their gameplay in order to "play the game differently and convince others that it's the proper way". Based Studio Gaga.
>>289311403Please give us a mega link!
>>289282829>more soul>literal goy wars referencesyou fucking disningenuous niggers
>>289301582even golden age guts basically punched through a massive metal door when he rescued griffith
>>289313175No one writing the continuation knows any of that stuff
>>289284547Conviction arc was cool.
What about the past godhand members shown in that one panel with Void?Are we ever getting an explanation or backstory on those guys and what happened to them?
>>289313411You will get the Kang of Midland's name first.
So should I rike this new chapter or not?
>>289313411They're the good Godhand and what mages call the four elemental kings. They'll ally with Femto against the fuckass Godhand. With great effort we'll get the deaths of Void, Slan, Conrad and Ubik only for the background Godhand members to come into prominence with Femto as their leader. Just like with politics humanity can choose left or right but it's the same shit at the end of the day.
>>289282689>We literally saw Sonia act casual and talk with Griffith so many times before.I genuinely wonder if someone has actually had this thought process. Like is this what autsim does to people?
>>289313592I don't get those people. Sonia acted like she did in the past, but they say she actually didn't.
I didn't care much for berserk after they got on the boat, but these new chapters are dogshit and should be refered to as BersuckBut I guess there are tons of people who just want to be part of the discussions and hYpE so these new chapters will have their unironic defendersWould've prefered they just gave us the cliffnotes on how Miura planned to wrap up the story
>>289313754ok
Chapters are fine for what they are. The big plot developments is what we can trust would have been roughly the same with Miura. The powerup is in-line with nu-Berserk, "born in death" having a spiritual significance is a retcon but a one that fits the magic elements that became a huge part of the story. Without a really bold decision to insert a new writer's voice into the story dialogue and character interactions were bound to suffer the most. The main art is stiff, Miura's friend isn't very good but stuff that is drawn by the studio is on par.
>>289282689i think you're feeling disgust, and misapplying it to a more recent experience, rather than correctly self-reflecting to find the core issue that first pissed you off, before it finally became so hard to ignore that you made this post.>>289308794>Guts always has been speculated to have some magical bs about him the same way he kept one eye closed because it was his secret sharingan, right?>Him being interstitial from day 1 changes nothing about his grit and struggle.i don't have to argue with just my words against this idiocy. this thread showcases it:>>289308928>so his belief that "I should be able to lift this" allowed him to defy physics and wield it. His muscles or willpower didn't lift that sword.or this one:>>289313175>The weight of his depression = influence of condensed barytes in his body = utilizing them externally to afflict "weight"you really want to keep arguing this shit is just fine? you really think that undermining the core meta narrative throughout all of the more popular arcs of berserk is worthy of appreciation?the moment guts' struggles stopped becoming relatable was the moment the manga began its downward trend objectively (berserk armor), even if subjectively these mistakes didn't catch up to (you) until later.you and i might not be able to fight monsters with a huge sword, but all of us could go to the gym and get fucking big.you and i might not have lost our tomboy gf and our emo captain friend, but we all have bad shit happen, and when guts, normally so stoic, finally emotes it provides an immeasurable degree of catharsis. his strength isn't the idiocy of goku or the childishness of naruto, he's just fucking tough, and when there's no magic that's doing it, its just his GUTS.everything else is just coping with a series dying, like star wars with midichlorians. 'oh disney killed starwars', 'oh miura dying killed berserk' nawww. you're accusing the symptoms of being the disease.
>>289313900>you really want to keep arguing this shit is just fine?Yeah it's fine, Guts isn't here to be a 'peak human' or whatever gymbros need him to be, those are Silat's bodyguards which Guts has surpassed with a smaller frame and less muscle mass. Guts can be superhuman if that's what he needs to be to achieve what he needs to, just like we took it in stride when he uses a 400 pound sword when an IRL huge sword like the zweihander is less than 7 pounds.
>>289282689>Berserk chapters feel like a weird, rushed cliff notes version of itselfAlmost like the creator died or something
>>289294156Those 5 volumes took 11 real life years. The fucking boat took nearly 8.5 years. It's not as funny in real time, and Miura would go on hiatus constantly, and then he would pace the story glacially on the rare times he came back, let's have those fucking pirates come back, let's focus on Puck's brothers. Here's another chestnut Puck, here's more comic relief. The parts that people loved about Berserk were getting farther and farther apart.This wouldn't have been a problem if Miura was somewhat regular, like a chapter a month, but he was doing fuck all. There's a reason people talk about Idolm@ster with him, and it's because he was putting out jackshit.If Miura was still alive, this point in the story would have taken until next decade to reach.
>>289282689i thought it was actually pretty good. I'm surprised how good the new Berserk is turning out
Lol, it's pretty obvious that this is a massive retcon. God Hand don't even talk like that. People who think this is fine deeply misunderstood the story.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krY14mQQx7I
>>289314168True. It's sad that he died but he wasn't gonna finish Berserk and he didn't want to. He ran out of steam with Berserk a long time ago and the steady decline in quality was noticeable.Everyone used to talk about how awful the chapters were and we'd go months without anything. Nothing we're getting now is worse than what Miura was doing out of pure obligation. Miura didn't care and didn't want to do Berserk anymore but people will nitpick and complain about anything they can since Mori took over simply to be contrarians.
>>289289622Thats a page, anon. Thems five panels there
>>289314331Not a retcon exactly. But gross mischaracterization. Yeah the dialogue doesnt feel natural. Very exposition heavy
>miura's actual best friend, umino doesn't know anything about berserk future plot>somehow we're supposed to believe mori one-sided larping as miura's best friend knew what miura had in mind
>>289283226>Let the series die with dignity.It.. it died long before miura. No dignity left when he passed
It's a fanfiction. I don't even think Mori lies, but he probably talked with Miura about the ending long time ago. Since then Miura changed his mind a hundred times. This is why nothing makes sense.
The only nice thing about the continuation is that they ditched chestnut puck
>>289311598either the one where guts and griffith are smiling at each other at the ball, or one of the panels of guts and rosine killing each other
>>289282689>Godhand coming out of nowhere to diss Griffith, telling him he is a pussy ass niggaHe is. He wants his cake and eat it too.
>>289313175>picAltered Beast 2nd powerup
Conviction arc the last good thing about Berserk. Dunno how you guys are this retarded to consider fanfic bullshit as legit.>B-BUT THE NOTES!!!These never existed and you know it.
Nope Griffith doesn't care about Guts at all, no sir.>>289308331Uh huh.
>>289315348Skull Knight would have won if he'd been riding atop Rape Horse.
Redpill me on FalconiaHow was Griffith 'resurrected' at the end of Conviction arc? Is he still Griffith or a camouflage?How did Griffith trigger the Great Wave of the Astral World and create his doll house?
>>289315037How do people think this is hot, all I feel is anger
>>289314331>>289314623>Anyhow, the God Hand are there to antagonize Griffith, basically establishing themselves as his enemies if not even his puppet masters. They mock what he's been doing and call Falconia a "stone prison". This is another huge retcon, seemingly born from yet another humongous misconception. The Continuation presents them as if they disapprove of what he does and look down on him, even though it was very obviously established by Miura to be part of their common plan. It's frankly farcical because it sounds like they're talking to a subordinate and not a peer.>After seeing this, I have absolutely no doubt remaining: the Continuation team has no idea what it's doing and whatever ending they cook up will be a complete aberration. At this point I would not be surprised to see Griffith rally Guts and die heroically to help him beat the rest of the God Hand, or vice versa.>I'm sure Miura knew how he wanted the story to end. I'm also sure Griffith would have not been antagonized by the other four members of the God Hand. Mori is out of his mind.> Funny thing is, that's how they presented the situation when the Continuation was announced: that they were basing it on tidbits gathered from casual conversations. But then Mori started making more and more outrageous claims... Personally, when I see what they're doing with this episode, I have a hard time believing anyone involved with the project has even read Berserk to begin with. So whatever talks they had with Miura, they must not have contained anything of substance.
>>289315026>>289315037>>289315059better than professional hentai
>>289284547People need to realize that the best part of berserk was the flower fairy in the jail cell with Guts and everything else wasn't actually that good.Griffith is childishly boring, Guts is a power fantasy MC who is just supposed to "be cool", etc. I haven't read in years but the only character I actually liked on their own merits besides the flower fairy from that one off was the knight lady
>Guts finally defeats Griffith by swinging extra hard>A giant glowing V appears above Griffith's corpse>"Struggler, he was the weakest of the five. You'll have to take them all down if you want to collect all five fragments of the Embodiment of Evil and become the Struggler King! Now hop on my horse it's time for your next training arc with Donovan-sensei.">"Truly I have gone Berserk™"It's in Miura's notes I checked.
>>289293694Griffith isn't even summoning the monsters; they're astral beings coming into existence because of the merging of the worlds ever since Ganishka got his head split open.Which is actually literally what the Godhand "wanted," there's literally panels of all of them coming into the world when it happens.Literally the Godhand only have one commandment and it's do whatever you want; they're chosen by fate BECAUSE their desires are already perfectly aligned with the IoE/God's will!Shit is so retarded.
>>289299576What cope? After his resurrection he literally says openly he has feelings, he just still has to put his dream first.He speculates on their origin but in a curious way more than anything, at no point does he seem actually concerned about it. Even when he's literally in the middle of transforming into the moon boy he's more so just like>oh so i guess it's happening again, interesting
The Idea of Evil is a fake god.
>>289315655Well yeah it's a demon created by humans.
>>289308841because the emotional stakes become nonexistant especially when shierke joins up. last good arc is still lost children
>>289315655Not really, it's a psychic godhead created by humanity's collective unconsciousness that's meant to save them from themselves.It basically fulfills the same purpose as a real God.
>>289315412>How was Griffith 'resurrected' at the end of Conviction arc?The Egg of the Perfect World apostle sacrificed the entire world as it was to create a new better world. Before he died he ate the astral demon baby (Guts and Casca's unborn child) so that it would become part of the new world.The boon granted for that sacrifice caused the Egg of the Perfect World to "hatch" into a reborn Griffith (the one who will change the world). The demon fetus became basically the core embryo inside the egg which grew into Griffith's new body. It's still Griffith but he now has a real physical body whereas Femto was basically a ghost stuck in the Astral World with the rest of the Godhand unless someone opened a tear into it by using a behelit or something.>How did Griffith trigger the Great Wave of the Astral World and create his doll house?He let Ganishka become a twice-baked apostle in his insane quest to defy the Godhand and then redirected skull knight's special sword into his brain. This broke reality so badly that the physical and astral worlds started to collapse into each other with Ganishka's giant mutant body become the tree that's slowly pulling the worlds together.He made Falconia with magic and humanity's dreams.
>>289289438Griffith and Femto has always been the same being. Griffith has always been a psychopath.
>>289315883Griffith is the single most empathetic, caring, and selfless character in the entire series and possibly in all of fiction.
>>289309144Baseado
>>289315477Sk net has been mental retardation central since Miura wrote them a letter. They have been shitting on Fantasia and Elfheim arc even before Miura's death. You can disagree with how the story is going now but their shitty headcanon and understanding of the story is genuinely troglodyte tier, even reddit can do better than that.
>>289316459How is it 'mental retardation central' when the only thing I see you continuously bitching about is them correctly saying Moriserk sucks?
>>289316459>They have been shitting on Fantasia and Elfheim arc even before Miura's deathExamples?
>>289316459>They have been shitting on Fantasia and Elfheim arc even before Miura's death.SK.net? They literally worshipped Miura. I don't think it was even allowed to criticize him, kek. I mean he's right. It's obviously a fanfic. I disliked many things about late Berserk, but plot wise pretty much everything made sense. Now you can easily question every new chapter and idea.
>>289316549>Now you can easily question every new chapter and idea.Such as?
>>289316602Almost everything. Kushan empire literally shouldn't exist anymore.
>>289289622Nope, it's this, the moment the series jumped the shark. The fact the eternal boat ride starts almost immediately after this is kind of telling.
>>289316673Isn't this the part that gave us the immortal "faggot-ass monsters" line?
>>289316673>can't enjoy the coolest moment in fiction
>>289316602You're insane if you think Miura would have written>Godhand poof up in black smoke around Griffith and chastize him out of fucking nowhere, speaking to him as if he's a human again, for... creating Fantasia which was the entire purpose of him becoming Femto and what Void literally explained was what he stood to gain by sacrificing in the first place>Like literally the entire point of Griffith reincarnating was so that Ganishka would dip himself into the artificial behelit and then end up becoming the tree that is connecting the astral and physical realms>They also imply that he is creating the astral monsters but this really isn't the case, they just exist now because the astral plane is leaking into physical reality>The literal prophecy about Griffith being the leader of the blind white sheep and sinful black sheep implied to be created ahead of time through causality/the Godhand to serve as a future prophecy of griffith's coming and rule over Falconia and the apostles? Never heard of it!Even worse>Griffith reacts like a normal human looking shocked to them showing up, not a godlike immortal being, a reaction he has literally never had since becoming FemtoLike imagine FEMTO in full costume reacting the same way Griffith did to the Godhand appearing while Miura was writing the story. Totally out of character. Miura's neo-Griffith was so calm and serene, like playfully detached from reality the way you might imagine a God incarnated in human flesh might beThis is just butchery of everything that has come before
>>289316701faggot ass monsters is basically the previous page
>>289316724it's pure shounen slock
>>289316752Just because Griffith has a dream doesn't mean the Godhand respect it. If he wasn't destined for the Godhand but as an apostle they would have given him a little retarded form like the snail apostle as a joke.>Like literally the entire point of Griffith reincarnating was so that Ganishka would dip himself into the artificial behelit and then end up becoming the tree that is connecting the astral and physical realmsFemto achieved this and now they no longer fuck with him except as far as he can also get them incarnated similarly. >They also imply that he is creating the astral monsters but this really isn't the case, they just exist now because the astral plane is leaking into physical realityFemto caused endless monsters to emerge due to him grooming Ganishka then using the blast of the astral world. He caused worldwide upheaval and now postures as the champion of humanity while being the source of their apocalypse, which is utterly shameless.
>>289316673One could argue it was when guts got his magic armor and jrpg party
>>289316908Fantasia is the world of man's desire - it is the world humans have dreamed of and is the ideal world in which they can self actualize. It is a fundamentally kinder and better world than the previous one, just like what the Egg of the PERFECT World wished for and sacrificed the entire old world for. The monsters are creations of man's own desires, Griffith didn't create them. Griffith is Salvation and Eden, not the apocalypse.
>>289316908Griffith was toying with Ganishka to demoralize the Kusan Empire. He was enjoying playing hero, and wanted to milk it for all its worth. He wasn't grooming anyone. Skull Knight made a mistake, and Femto capitalized on it.
It's kind of vague but I lean a bit towards the idea that Griffith probably didn't 100% know what was going to happen with Ganishka; like once it happened he had a preternatural understanding of it all as he clearly demonstrates but the Godhand don't really seem to be entirely omniscient when it comes to the future.I think it's just that since their desires are literally a 1:1 match for causality they basically don't second guess anything, they just completely go along with their whims in that moment because whatever that is, must inevitably be the "right" course of action.It's why I really hate how Griffith looks surprised in the newest chapter. Why the fuck should he seem surprised? Anything that happens should immediately make sense to him because it was something that was meant to happen within causality.Like Void probably had a million chances to kill SK just like how Griffith could have killed Guts and very nearly did as he was escaping during the Eclipse but consciously decided not to.If they felt like doing it, they'd do it because it was supposed to happen, but since it's not supposed to happen, they don't feel like doing it.
Still waiting on the Morda AI porn, anon. There is no more /r.
>>289317459Holy shit, /r/ is gone? When did that happen? Earlier this year? Why? Legal reasons?I guess I'll consider uploading my stuff to the sad panda website, but I'm worried I'll let you down. Some of the images have typical AI slop problems, such as instances where a troll has three arms, etc.(Well, I guess the extra limbs / missing fingers isn't illogical on a demonic monster...)
>didn't read a single chapter post Miura's deathWhat am I missing?
>>289308928Guts is part Quincy/Hollow/Fullbring
>>289317676Puck's Puck
>>289308928>I don't think that Guts pushing over the door represents a "power up"I think the power up itself we don't yet know the full scale of is not as improtant compared to the most retarded shonen-esque way it's been done, that is retroactively undermining his entire character and achievements up to this point>Because Guts exists partially in the real world and partially in the Astral Realm, Yes. But were you actually reading the manga you would know he existed in the interstice only after being branded. The continuation contradincts this directly. And if the powerup was as simple as that it would be completely redundant>he can change reality with his thoughts.Ever so slightly because interstice is the shallowest level of the astral realm and Miura is not a fan of a powercreep and was not a going to make Guts into superman as he himself said in the interviews>Skull Knight and others already told him above this in the past, but it didn't mean anything to Guts until he spent time in that clamshell.They had million chances to hammer it down, if that was so improtant. But the fact is it never was. And it's not like they weren't interested in making Guts stronger. They gave him the berseker armor using which includes great risks and major drawbacks. You can cope all you want, but this is a retcon that came out of nowhere is not supported by anything in the original manga>Guts was using this ability all along. Wielding the Dragonslayer should be impossibleGuts has not been using the dragonslayer "all along" (before being branded)>He's been wielding oversized swords since childhoodIf you had any reading comprehension, you'd know it's an obvious smooth transition to justify him being able to weild the dragonslayer. Which is not completely impossible in the manga internal logic, which is full of characters performing physical feats impossible in real life. Or have they all also been shaping the reality according to their will all along?
>>289308928>Guts was never "very strong man" but was always "man who is unconsciously warping reality with his thoughts."You were never a reader, you are retarded headcanon nigger who makes up things that never existed to justify the godawful fanfiction>*Realizing something* or *finally comprehending something* isn't the same thing as "he got a power up and now his muscles are stronger."It's the same, if the result is the same that is making him much stronger>I think the previous chapters were perfectly fine and in-line with everything that has been established in Berserk so far,Then you should read the manga before spewing any bullshit takes out of your ass>I'm pretty convinced that if you dislike the recent chapters, you're either addicted to the sensation of bitching on the InternetI'm pretty convinced that if you justify the fanfction drivel with another fanfiction that is your completely unsupported headcanon takes on the original manga only someone who never properly read it would make, then you were never an actual fan of Berserk and never appreciated it's story that has always been consistent on top of being great, which requires exceptional talent to write (the talent that is compeltely lacking from the team behind the fanfiction) and just a mindless consumer who is willing to eat up any slop as long as it has a popular title in the name>or you've forgotten a bunch of important plot details that were established decades agoThe only ones not getting the plot details are moricucks reading the manga through tiktoks and youtube essays
>>289317676Nothing of value. I would even say you missing something with a negative value
That's it, I'm convinced Moriserk sucks and Guts should have just done a billion pushups and fucked Griffith in the ass in front of all Falconia.
>>289309156>>289310699>>289311144>>289311546>>289311981>>289313248>>289317459Alright, by popular demand...Go to e-hentai and search "morda," you'll find 100 pics.
>>289301403>only in power>literal god-like beings overseeing the fate of humanity, who posses knowledge suprassing anyone's but god himself are mentallity the same as generic monsters made by them to sow chaos>they never become inhuman.They all sacrificed their humanity and are completely overtaken by the idea of evil that resides in everyone. That makes them inhuman. If there's is the smallest part of their beings still having any capacity for kindness and love like we saw with the Count, it's so out of ordinary even the God Hand wouldn't able to predict it>There's plenty of extreme evil perpetrated by humans in berserk too.Nothing compared to the cruelty of an average apostle>Apostles are all evil because if god made you immortal and said "do literally whatever you want I don't care", you would end up evil tooNice projection>None of the apostles lose their humanityLol. How do you expain all of them being cartoonishly evil? How do you explain the Count turning from a normal ruler into a sadist torturing his own people for fun?>zodd still has honorThat's unrelated to him being evil>and griffith still cares about guts Lmao>and is at least possessive if not that he cares about cascaThe only context he cares about Casca is the moonchild who forces him to protect her from immediate danger several times and to bring Casca to Falconia since his visits to Casca have become a nuisance for Griffith>griffith has literally always been like this, he pretends to be cold and emotionless,He's never pretended to be cold and emotionless as a human. You're talking out of your ass
>>289317676Lots of funny pajeet faces
>>289318506The literal point of Black Swordsman and Lost Children, like the very first parts of the story besides Golden Age, smash you in the head with a hammer that apostles are literally just normal people given power to do what they want to do. It's literally the entire purpose of those chapters' existence:>People given desperate circumstances and the power to change them will do extreme and often bad thingsDo you seriously think that you're meant to come to the conclusion that Rosine is an irredeemable inhuman monster after Lost Children?
>>289311981>>289309144>>289311144>>289310699>>289309721>>289309710>>289309156>>289316333Ewwww...
>>289313900>he's just fucking toughYou're mentally 12 lol
>Godhand making fun of Griffith's childlike behaviorthis was honestly a good chapter and I would not be surprised if this was something Miura had the intention of portraying, I mean come on Griffith is truly behaving like a child, he is unleashing hordes of monsters just to defeat them himself and be seen as the savior of humanity, this is the equivalent of a kid turning his day dreams into reality, it's so dumb and childish it actually fits his characterhis dream itself was that of a child, he wants to have his own kingdom, why? just because. basically a toy he wants that is part of his wishlist to Santa
>>289318910SHIEEEEEEEEET
>>289319860You're a retard for enjoying this slopGriffith isn't making the monsters, they're astral creatures that are entering the world because of physical and astral planes mergingWhich is LITERALLY what the Godhand was trying to accomplishThey're chastizing Griffith for doing exactly what he was supposed to doThem treating him like a human and not a godlike astral entity is also ridiculous, they literally just exist to follow their whims so that God's design comes to fruition
>>289308928Interesting .... He's basically kinda like the Plutonian from the irredeemable comic then.(The Plutonian was basically another "le evil Superman" but it turns out he was not super strong or anything, he was subconsciously manipulating reality with is mind or so)Makes sense to me, I guess.
>>289319860>his dream itself was that of a child, he wants to have his own kingdom, why? just because.The kingdom literally represents freedom and human agency and is the cornerstone of his entire ideology and worldviewWhen he saved a young Casca, he gave her a sword, rather than just killing the bad guy. He gave her a choice and the power to choose her own fate. That's the castle, the impossible dream that a street rat can rise to the highest point possible for a human despite being born in a hellish society that crushes you into the dust simply for the circumstances of your birth. If someone like Griffith can become a king, it means you have the freedom to do anything, fate doesn't rule you - which is then subverted and recontextualized by the eclipse. It's also why he loves Guts, the free man who lives outside of society and doesn't care for status or money.You know, was all the bird imagery lost on you?
Oh man,these threads are funny,the ending will absolutely destroy this board unlike anything seen before
>>289320022>astral creatures that are entering the world because of physical and astral planes mergingtriggered by Griffith joining the Godhand and ending Ganishka>They're chastizing Griffith for doing exactly what he was supposed to dothey are not chastizing him though, they are simply making fun of the contradictory nature of his actions, they recognize him as part of their ranksis it really that weird to you that someone is calling Griffith out on his shitty dollhouse?I enjoyed this chapter, it shows that Griffith's childish behavior is not lost on his peers>>289320148>The kingdom literally represents freedom and human agency and is the cornerstone of his entire ideology and worldviewIt does not though, all of what you wrote holds true except for this line, the kingdom is nothing more than a facade, throughout the entire manga the falcon imagery as a savior is shown to the characters as some sort of symbolism of Griffith representing salvation, freedom and resilience against the darkness.but you as the reader should know better, shouldn't you? Berserk is filled to the brim with juxtaposition yet you actually fell for Griffith's delusions as if you were not a reader but a Midland peasant
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>>289318335Based. Thanks for delivering on the dream.
>>289320254>triggered by Griffith joining the Godhand and ending GanishkaSo? Is Skull Knight being a LARPer or something if he kills astral creatures despite it being his sword that literally caused everything?Moreover Fantasia is the Perfect World for humanity, the old world was literally sacrificed so that humans could have the world they wanted. The monsters are created by their own collective desire for them to exist. Griffith is still protecting them and killing the monsters while giving them the world they needed and dreamed of.>they are simply making fun of the contradictory nature of his actionsWhich is? His goal was to be the king in a castle. If they were joking about him not marrying Charlotte I could potentially accept that as a contradictory action since Griffith hasn't actually been crowned yet and won't until he's formally married.>is it really that weird to you that someone is calling Griffith out on his shitty dollhouse?Yes? The Godhand literally just do whatever they feel like doing. Ubik is allowed to recreate gothic dutch paintings, Griffith can't have the castle that was literally what his entire motivation for becoming a god and what they all promised him and never poked fun at before this point?
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>>289320254>It does not though, all of what you wrote holds true except for this line, the kingdom is nothing more than a facadeI suppose that yes, the kingdom is ultimately a facade, at least for Griffith himself as he ultimately has to become a part of causality (or fate) to reach his goals, but his dream was founded in a need to believe that he was a free human being whose actions had value, that his life wasn't entirely bound by the fate dictated by his shit tier birth status.Even if Griffith's dream is ultimately hollow for him as it no longer represents his triumph over destiny, in the end it was still his choice to sacrifice or not. His freedom to choose mattered, where a half hour before that he couldn't even choose to end his own life - his wings were completely clipped.And to literally everyone else in the entire world, both the blind white sheep and the sinful black sheep, Griffith does come to represent salvation and freedom. This is the paradoxical nature of Griffith's role as an entity which ended up embodying fate and also one that gives humanity hope and the collective belief that their actions have meaning in the new world, and to the apostles that they aren't damned and also are free to choose.
>>289308928You absolute fucking retard.
>>289320793Classic 4chan, someone so angry from a post discussing the topic that they can only insult.
>>289315477I loathe SkullKnightfags, but I need to concede on this because my reaction was the same as theirs during that interaction. They are antagonizing Griffith, the fifth angel. who Void himself deemed "The Blessed King of Longing" -- for doing exactly as causality ordains, further confirmed in the Holy See's scriptures: >The angel is the Falcon of Darkness. The master of the sinful black sheep, the king of the blind white sheep. The one who shall call upon the world an age of darkness. He is literally doing exactly what they want him to do. Which is why this development makes no sense, as this is in accordance with their wishes. The only explanation I can think of to explain this retarded sequence of events is Mori being told by Miura: >So yeah, the Godhand and Griffith have a fallout and..."- and Mori has no idea how to organically create the schism between them, so he pulls this out of his ass. If I squint my eyes *really* hard, I may be able to gaslight myself into believing that somehow Griffith "playing the hero" is stalling "the age of darkness" the Godhand are striving towards. I've been a supporter of the continuation and have my share of problems with it. But this handling and mischaracterization of the Godhand is particularly egregious. I need to see their thought process because this is inconsistent with their portrayal and the philosophy of "Do as thou wilt."
>>289319213>It's literally the entire purpose of those chapters' existenceNice of you to simplify the entire arcs with complex characters and stories to a single point of third importance. That's probably why you feel like a fish in the water with the continuation>People given desperate circumstances and the power to change them will do extreme and often bad thingsThe desperate circumstances were used to force them to sacrifice their loved ones, thus abandoning their humanity and succumbing to the idea of evil. After becoming apostles there're no circumstances driving their heinous actions, it's all by their own will>Rosine is an irredeemable inhuman monster after Lost Children?Rosine is a special case because she's a child and might not quite understand of the gravity of what she's doing. But what she's done is still irredeemable and is no doubt was driven by the evil inside her heart. You are probably too accustomed to slop media saturated with the generic trope of "humans are the real monsters", but it's not quite the case with Berserk. You could argue that all the evil in the world including the Idea of Evil itself is inherently human in nature, and that would be a valid point, but that's not what we are arguing about. We're arguing if the monsters who once abandoned their humanity are only as evil as regular people or as themselves in the past which you'd have to be a total retard to assume after reading the manga
>>289315477>Their common planWhat common plan? Assuming the Idea of Evil is still the force that governs causality, the God Hand are simply 5 individuals who lived very specific lives that bore their personalities and goals, goals that would serve the Idea of Evil's agenda. Griffith is not someone who is scheming with them, who is working with them for a conscious common goal. The Idea of Evil said "Do whatever you want, be a king, just bee urself because urself is exactly what I'm looking for". The Idea of Evil has an end goal (I presume the mass extinction/eternal suffering of humanity in hell for its own pleasure because that is THE idea of evil for the collective unconsciousness). Griffith wanted to be king with all under his flag, and thus far he has gathered most nations under him. Most of humanity follows him, that's what the Idea of Evil wants. And the other God Hand are likely the same in that they're people who are just following their greatest specific compulsions as individuals, and those compulsions are part of what the Idea of Evil wants.I've been saying for years that the natural course of events is Griffith turning against the rest of the God Hand because their agendas will interfere with his own. Griffith doesn't want to sacrifice his kingdom, he wants to be the greatest king of all, the one at the top of all of humanity. The Idea of Evil (naturally through rest of the God Hand) will easily discard him once he's served his role, and the same goes for Slan, Void, Conrad, and Ubik when they stop being useful as individuals.Ultimately, Guts is the wildcard, the one born outside of causality, the only one that can affect the flow of fate without being bound by it. I think Guts and Griffith will have to share a common goal towards the final battle, and that's protecting humanity and preventing the Apoc-Eclipse.
>>289321120>He is literally doing exactly what they want him to do. Which is why this development makes no sense, as this is in accordance with their wishes. >The only explanation I can think of to explain this retarded sequence of events is Mori being told by Miura:May its because Griffith hasn't sacrificed Casca we will never know because Mori isn't filling in the details.
>We are a fan studio and will now spend 5 years animating an early part of Berk that has been animated X times beforeWhy does this keep happeningAt least make something that hasn't been done before like Lost Children
>>289321917Umm, that's actually really problematic...
>>289321917There's actually a Lost Children animation out there. It was made by one person but it's still very sick.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aB8N0kco2iA
>>289321347>What common plan?The prophecy about Griffith bringing forth the age of darkness>Griffith is not someone who is scheming with themAnd where did you get the idea they don't? They have their own interests or rather their own elements, but when it come to doing IoE's/causality bidding they've always worked together as a single entity. They are fucking God Hand, it's in the name. They participated in Griffith's incarnation ceremony, if you still can't believe it. Check it yourself>their agendas will interfere with his own>Griffith doesn't want to sacrifice his kingdomWhere the fuck do you get it from? Do you really think IoE's plan was to select Griffith with his particular dream of having a kingdom and not taking into account the fact that he may turn against the idea of sacrificing his kingdom? Do you really think fictional god-like characters weaving fates are as retarded as you?>will easily discard him once he's served his roleThat's not how it ever worked. They have precise cycles every 216 years where a new God Hand member is initiated replacing the oldest one. Were did you get the idea they are "easily discarded"? What manga are you even reading?>Guts is the wildcard, the one born outside of causality, That's not even funny at this point. You are just clinically retarded
>>289321180>Nice of you to simplify the entire arcs with complex characters and stories to a single point of third importance.>Accusing me of "simplifying complex characters" when literally the majority of the apostles depicted in the series have been shown to be morally complex individualsLocus, Irvine, Rosine, Slug Count, Gunbeld, even Zodd have far more depth than what you're describing - and it's literally repeated over and over and over to try to get across the message that humans like Donovan are capable of the same cruelty as apostles - that the violence that the apostles commit is actually proof of their humanity and shared nature with everyone elsethe fucking Egg of the Perfect World literally loved the world more than anything despite being shit on by everyone and only desired to sacrifice himself and all the ugliness in the world to create a paradise for everyone to live in>The desperate circumstances were used to force them to sacrifice their loved ones, thus abandoning their humanity and succumbing to the idea of evil.The Idea of Evil is literally trying to empower individual humans with the end goal of serving human needs. The Idea of Evil makes people strong enough to self-actualize, for better or for worse.>Rosine is a special case because she's a child and might not quite understand of the gravity of what she's doing.Literally read the chapter where Rosine is dying and tell me that she is irredeemably evil. She was a scared child, you are so fucking retarded it's unbelievable but I guess it explains why you think the continuation is anything besides bad fanfiction>We're arguing if the monsters who once abandoned their humanity are only as evil as regular people or as themselves in the past which you'd have to be a total retard to assume after reading the mangaSo Rosine, Irvine, and the Egg of the Perfect World are morally black and Donovan is morally complex in your warped braindead imagination of what you think Miura was trying to convey?
>>289321347>The Idea of Evil has an end goal (I presume the mass extinction/eternal suffering of humanity in hell for its own pleasure because that is THE idea of evil for the collective unconsciousness)The Idea of Evil literally states its own goal. It isn't malevolent or evil itself, it was not born from man's desire to do evil but rather man's desire to have a reason for things that happen. Man does not wish to bear the weight of responsibility for his own sins, so he assigned the reasons for all the suffering (AND things like love, as the IoE explicitly states) in the world to God and a greater destiny. It exists to save and serve mankind, not torment it. It literally is God.Ultimately since the Godhand members' individual desires are completely in line with that of the IoE, their actions will always bring about the end goal (Causality has an ending, it is spiraling towards something as openly stated)Getting into my personal opinion, I think it's relatively clear that the "end" of Causality is synonymous with the IoE destroying itself, or at least being transformed into something completely different. Griffith is obviously the key to all this and I think it more likely that he's going to be the one to end the rest of the Godhand and the IoE (as it is now) altogether.
>>289282689>the Godhand coming out of nowhere to diss Griffith, telling him he is a pussy ass niggaAnd what exactly is wrong about that? They never told him this to his face and it was long overdue. This also isn't a random moment for this to happen, Casca is there, a sacrifice they are owed and he keeps it from them just for the sake of playing pretend in the corporeal world.
>>289308928He can move shit... with his mind
>>289322604>This also isn't a random moment for this to happen, Casca is there, a sacrifice they are owedThis is such a retarded theory and I'm so tired of hearing itGuts and Casca have been in proximity to Griffith or the Godhand or both multiple times since the Eclipse.NOTHING is said by any character, not Griffith, not any of the rest of the Godhand, or any of the other characters learned in the Astral World that Guts meets EVER brings this up.The Godhand literally watch Griffith refuse to kill Guts twice and basically just go>interesting!they literally don't care and never have, the Sacrifice is meaningful because of the choice, it isn't a video game raid boss mechanic where all the soul orbs need to be collected before the boss gets his ultimate form or some retarded shit.
>>289322726And just because they haven't brought it up yet they never can? By now it's clear it's not going anywhere interesting and that he is only not killing them because he is afraid of losing control of his physical body, so they mock him for it
>>28932297230+ years and never mentioned.>he is only not killing them because he is afraid of losing control of his physical body, so they mock him for itHe isn't killing them because he doesn't want to, it literally doesn't matter what the reason is. Which has been the same for the entire series; at no point has Femto ever tried to directly kill either of them. And the rest of the Godhand STILL haven't brought up the brand or the sacrifice - they didn't even bring up him keeping Casca alive which even if Mori was being especially retarded and wanted to include this idea in his fanfic, now would have been the perfect time to do it! And he didn't!
>>289311403>>289309144Ai retard fuck off
>>289311403Ai bro, please stay.
>>289322371>the majority of the apostles depicted in the series have been shown to be morally complex individualsNo, the majority of apostles shown are one dimentional monsters who barely play any role. You are confusing a few actual characters, who have some screentime with majority of their kind, but that's understandable since you a total mongrel>Locus, Irvine, Rosine, Slug Count, Gunbeld, even Zodd have far more depthNone of them have that much depth. You are underestimaning the meaning of character depth too much>and it's literally repeated over and over and over to try to get across the message that humans like Donovan are capable of the same cruelty as apostlesYou might be unironically retarded, if you still can't get the fact that humans sometimes being evil does not automatically imply Miura wanted to tell that the monsters, who've done much worse in much larger quantities, who's entire purpose is to spread evil, are reedemable and are just as human as everyone else>and only desired to sacrifice himselfHe sacrificed the world not himself to become an apostle in the first place, speedreader. And only after that he sacrificed himself for the "paradise", which is not the actual paradise for humans, but quite the opposite>The Idea of Evil is literally trying to empower individual humans with the end goal of serving human needs. What do you mean serving human needs? It only "empowers" humans twisting them into monsters to spread evil and suffering across the world. That's it's entire purpose. Is that human needs according to you?>The Idea of Evil makes people strong enough to self-actualizeAgain nice of you to asume that most people would by themsleves become child eating vile mosters the second they get an ounce of power>tell me that she is irredeemably evilAgain she's a special case because she's a retarded child. But what she's done is irredeemably evil
>>289322371>So Rosine, Irvine, and the Egg of the Perfect World are morally black and Donovan is morally complexYou are comparing a noncharacter with a screentime of a few panels, whos only role in the story is to do a single evil deed, and saying he's more of a monster than apostles working towards creating hell on earth. Let it sink in for a second>what you think Miura was trying to convey?That humans are the actual monster obviously
>>289324230>No, the majority of apostles shown are one dimentional monstersYou know what I meant.>None of them have that much depth.It's not about the depth of their depiction, simply that they are shown as possessing the same moral complexity as humans. The Count is able to consciously choose to be good; how can you insist a character is INTRINSICALLY evil if they retain the capacity to do good? And this isn't even counting the apostles who are mostly or entirely selfless; the Count was an asshole! But not more than any human asshole empowered to follow his whims.>the monsters, who've done much worseThe monsters ARE humans. That is entirely his point. The apostles are to illustrate the paradoxical nature of free will and agency; they are empowered by God to follow their deepest desires and yet become subsumed to Causality and Fate by doing so.>who's entire purpose is to spread evilNot their purpose.>He sacrificed the world not himself to become an apostleWrong. You have it reversed. His first sacrifice was himself, his second was the World.>the "paradise", which is not the actual paradisePlainly incorrect. Fantasia is the world of man's desire. This is made true not only through exposition but through the Egg's own wish to God himself, that the world to come would be the perfect world for mankind.>It only "empowers" humans twisting them into monstersYou just don't understand the Idea of Evil's actual purpose then. It's goal is explicitly not to spread evil and suffering. Evil and suffering exist regardless, the Idea of Evil gives meaning to these things - both good and bad - because mankind is incapable of shouldering the responsibility of fate. It was created by mankind collectively because they *needed* it to exist.>most people would by themsleves become child eating vile mostersMissing the point>she's a special caseNever suggested, in fact the entire point of Lost Children is to show the humanity which apostles actually possess.
>>289324081Die airetard asslicker
>>289324707Mad as FUCK lmao
When is it dropping?
>>289324285>You are comparing a noncharacter with a screentime of a few panels, whos only role in the story is to do a single evil deed, and saying he's more of a monster than apostles working towards creating hell on earth.Was Rosine working to "create hell on earth?" Do you really believe that was her intention?>That humans are the actual monster obviouslyYou're just too dim-witted to understand his point. Miura isn't trying to say that humans are the real monsters either, just that humans can be capable of terrible cruelty and that being given the power to self-actualize *often* results in further cruelty as we intrinsically have impulses like jealousy, lust, anger, love - and that being empowered to follow these in their most pure sense *often* leads to terrible acts.But not always, just like in the cases of Rosine, the Count, the Egg of the Perfect World, and so on. While their desires caused destruction they were also capable of love and self-sacrifice, just like any other human.
>>289313900>you and i might not be able to fight monsters with a huge sword, but all of us could go to the gym and get fucking big.>you and i might not have lost our tomboy gf and our emo captain friend, but we all have bad shit happen, and when guts, normally so stoic, finally emotes it provides an immeasurable degree of catharsismy brother in christ you are idealizing and projecting onto a fictional character so bad you accuse others of coping when certain narrative elements don't align with what you wantthat's not very stoic of you
The Berserk "Continuation" is a massive fraud; Mori clearly had no inside knowledge, discussions, or even a hint of what Miura was planning for Berserk. Each of Mori's chapters has been full of uncharacteristic and incomprehensible shit, contradicting both the original work, as well as contradicting the garbage in his own new chapters. It reads worse than a teenage fanfic. What a monkey paw curse this was, wishing for an ending to Berserk. Sadly it ended with Miura's final chapter.
>>289325443List the contradictions, please
>>289295006They probably have done this stuff enough times and even if they do a genocidal run they could probably bring everyone back.I think at this point even they are puzzled on what to do with all the cosmic power they have and just take it out for shit n giggles while larping about causality
This is a total drisgrace. They killed Berserk, they destroyed everything that made the series good in a few chapters.
>>289318335The true Berserk sequel.
>>289323114It was just a good time to mention it now because his delulupilling is a stark contrast to Guts being truthpilled
>>289325912The point is that it's not a plot point and never will be.I think Mori is a moron for that entire scene but if he wanted to put in the "incomplete sacrifice" element against Miura's intention he would have done it right when Casca was literally right there.
>>289295351It's also ok to dislike something.
>>289321456>May its because Griffith hasn't sacrificed CascaCasca is already a marked sacrificial offering. The price is paid. No matter if is ripped apart and feasted upon by apostles or malevolent spirts or lives a full life and dies peacefully in her sleep: her fate is the vortex. >we will never know because Mori isn't filling in the details.I like Mori, but he is definitely full of shit here. He is "elaborating" when he wants to.. We already have confirmation from the Gamebiz interview he and Studio Gaga brainstorm and make shit up when they don't know how to fill in the blanks. And depending on who you ask, YMMV on the tracks they take,
>>289326072Idk man it still fits the moment and it's also possible that they are bringing it up now to manipulate Griffith into doing something because their goal is surely not watching Griffith play king forever
>>289282829It is a good example of the heart and soul Berserk had
>>289326894I don't think I'm understanding your point. Yes, it would have "fit" (would have still been retarded but it is Mori) but the Godhand didn't bring her up, only Griffith's kingdom. They don't mention the sacrifice at all.
>>289282689Its funny how it went from every person and hundreds of videos saying Berserk wont end with fight between Guts and Griffith to looking like that actually will be the ending.
Skullnight.net chads are not happy with the current direction nu-Berserk is taking.
uhhh, you know, maybe this is a question with an obvious answer but if humans are asked to sacrifice their most precious thing to become apostles, how come rosine wasn't asked to sacrifice jill?didn't she care about her more than her parents anyway?
>>289324633>You know what I meant.Yes, and I replied to what you meant>that they are shown as possessing the same moral complexity as humans.No they don't. There's no moral complexity. Most of the apostles in Falconia are just playing the part in the the God Hand's scheme and are barely holding in their UNHUMAN bloodlust>The Count is able to consciously choose to be goodThe Count had a tiny sliver of humanity left in him due to his daughter. Him not sacrificing his daughter does not redeem him even by 1% compared to the things he's done. To think that he was a once a normal human and then coming to the conclusion that him becoming an apostle didn't change anything about his nature... This retardation needs to be studied>The monsters ARE humansWar IS peace>The apostles are to illustrate the paradoxical nature of free will and agencyWhat? The apostles are there for being evil villains for Guts to slay>they are empowered by God to follow their deepest desiresTo follow their EVIL desires, there's no point for IoE to empower a person's deepest dream to build an orphanage>yet become subsumed to Causality and Fate by doing soEvery human is subjected to causality>Not their purposeYes, it is>His first sacrifice was himselfNo. He explicitly said the God Hand offered him a wish in exchange for the world the first and only time they appeared to him. What do you gain from lying on the internet?>Fantasia is the world of man's desireAs in the world of man's imagination both good and bad. And therefore Fantasia became an apocalyptic scenario for humans. Imagine taking those words so literally and out of context, holy shit>It's goal is explicitly not to spread evil and suffering. It is. And the main goal is to bring the age of darkness. The ultimate suffering
>>289324633>Evil and suffering exist regardless, the Idea of Evil gives meaning to these thingsIt's a basic paradox. The IoE exists because of evil and evil exists because of the IoE. Evil can only exist without the IoE if all humans become collectively retarded like you and stop questioning the reason evil and suffering exist>Never suggestedIt was never suggested she was a dumb kid? Because that's what I meant by the special case>the entire point of Lost Children is to show the humanity which apostles actually possessAgain oversimplifying entire arcs. Rosine is a monster with twisted morality which resembles child's desires. Rosine shows that even children can be corrupted by the evil, but obviously in their own way compared to adults>>289324849>Was Rosine working to "create hell on earth?"I replied to Rosine's case separately. Obviously I meant those apostles you consider to have "complex morality", who are currently helping Femto in his "morally complex" plan. Is this the only thing you could latch onto, lol?>given the power to self-actualize *often* results in further crueltyWith apostles it's always cruelty. The only ones who are "peaceful" I already mentioned above
>>289328364Is that the resetera of Berk fans?
>>289320188Nobody cares enough about what happens in this fanfic for that to happen. In reality there will be like one thread that doesn't even hit bump limit full of the same samefags half-heartedly arguing about it.
>>289295913Astroturfing actually sounds like this: "Wow! This is the best Berserk chapter since Golden Age!" and "Just trust the plan - tune in to next week's chapter for more!"
>>289328764It's the 4chan of Berserk fans.
>>289329283This chapter alone has had like 4 or 5 threads?
>>289329434this, for better or worse, they're the only ones with any set of standards while the rest of the internet wants to get lost in the hype and doesn't want anyone raining on their parade
>>289329698I've only seen 3 complaining about how bad it is. People are still reading it because of sunk cost fallacy.
>>289324081What can I gen for you, bro?
>>289330111Two fat bumpy troll cocks on her face.
>>289330398Hey now, I'm not tryin'a get banned from a blue board
>>289331119Just link it.
>>289289650>>289288931>>289289700Why does Casca struggles and fights back and cries out when it's Guts but when it gomes to Femto/Griffith she judt goes numb?
>>289330111Original anon you replied to. The Morda gallery was more than enough. I was just encouraging you to keep sharing if you had anything else you wanted to show off.
>>289324824Mad?Are you not smart enough to understand that AIshit is tasteless garbage?
>>289331521Guts' dick is bigger, it hurts
>>289331898>Mad?Literally (You) typing this post. kek
>>289332025Rent free dumb kid
>>289332160>Still replying
>>289332160>>289332359STOOOOOOOOOP FIGHTING, WE'RE ALL BERSERK FANS DON'T YOU UNDERSTAND
>>289282689I always thought the point of Guts was the fact that hes just a normal human fighting against hell itself. But now they gave him the Bleach special and now hes actually a dark souls protagonist or some shit
>>289289391I thought they were building up to the power of friendship
I hope this series doesn't end yet. It's a piece of history at this point for being published for over 30 yearsAlso do you think we'll see the god hand again or were they just a one time plot device?
>>289318335>suddenly /a/ loves aireally makes the ticker tock
>Has an entire city dedicated to worship his magnificence>Needs a princess to be crowned king>Makes his city the only safe haven for humans in a fantastical monster ridden worldWhat a laughing stock
>>289313175Berserk x Altered Beast when
>>289315477Based SK.net informer. Thanks for sharing those sissy comments.
>>289335717Baki Gaiden: Guts-dou
>>289313175>>289333836>>289335717POWER UP
>>289318335
>>289318335Based and friendly poster.Thanks.
>>289336438STOP COLLECTING THOSE POWER-UPS
>>289328542>No they don't. There's no moral complexity.If you are capable of choosing to do moral good then you have moral complexity and are not inherently evil. The most prominent apostles in the series are all like this for a reason. Do you think it was just a coincidence that Miura repeatedly features sympathetic apostles?>The Count had a tiny sliver of humanity left in him due to his daughter. Him not sacrificing his daughter does not redeem him even by 1% compared to the things he's done.Ok, so not irredeemably evil then, great that you're agreeing with me. Even if the Count is 0.001% good, then he isn't irredeemably and entirely evil.>What? The apostles are there for being evil villains for Guts to slayThen why make them sympathetic repeatedly? And what about the sympathetic ones Guts hasn't killed?>To follow their EVIL desires, there's no point for IoE to empower a person's deepest dream to build an orphanageThe IoE would absolutely empower a person's deepest dream to build an orphanage if they were that desperate.>Every human is subjected to causalityYes, because of the IoE, which influences reality through behelits and its agents, who are subsumed to fate entirely.>Yes, it isReread the manga.>He explicitly said the God Hand offered him a wish in exchange for the world the first and only time they appeared to him.He is branded. His brand is on his tongue. At the Tower of Conviction you can see the masses of humans form the brand on the earth when he uses "himself" as a behelit.>As in the world of man's imagination both good and bad.Yes, but it is explicitly the world they DESIRED and the PERFECT world where they will eventually be able to self-actualize.>And the main goal is to bring the age of darkness.Wrong.
>>289328561>It's a basic paradox. The IoE exists because of evil and evil exists because of the IoE.So you literally haven't just read the manga.The IoE explicitly states that it exists so that there are REASONS for the existence of evil; humanity cannot accept that the world exists in the way it does because of their own collective free will so instead they assign that agency to the IoE. It is literally God and Fate, it isn't malicious.>It was never suggested she was a dumb kid?It was never suggested that Rosine was somehow special because she was a child. She is the exact same as every other apostle - that is, human.>Rosine is a monster with twisted moralityOkay, "twisted" - is that evil then? The point is that Rosine was traumatized as a child which created her twisted morality - it had literally nothing to do with her becoming an apostle. She is the way she is because of her childhood, not the fact that she is an apostle. This is true for all the other apostles as well.>Obviously I meant those apostles you consider to have "complex morality", who are currently helping Femto in his "morally complex" plan.If apostles like Locus are entirely convinced that Griffith is working to give them redemption and salvation and to make the world a better place, then this shows a clear capacity for moral good. Even if you disagree with me and think that Griffith is up to no good, obviously there are apostles who are serving him for partially or entirely selfless reasons.>With apostles it's always cruelty.Always except for all the times it's not, and these examples just so happen to be the first handful of apostle antagonists and then essentially the majority of the major apostles associated with Griffith?You really think it was just a coincidence that Miura chose to write the Slug Count and Rosine and made their last moments showing the tender humanity underneath the monstrous exterior? It was just some kind of accident, that he kept making?
How would you feel if this were an apostle?
>>289332835Aren't Dark Souls protagonists just regular blokes though?
>>289337865Berkfags would call it "definitely not porn, but artsy and deep and mature thing, RIP Kentato Moira".
>>289335717Berserk fans will say Guts is still a normal human after this and swear he has no supernatural powers.
>>289338598Fag
what the fuck is Casca's problem
>>289309144>>289318335>100 pics>none with pubeswhat the fuck, man
>>289341444She's on drugs
>>289282689Sad
>>289314483Go shill your garbage elsewhere ranjeet
>>289322306>>289321917>Still very sickJust because it's made by one dude doesn't mean it shouldn't be exempt from criticism. The moment the guy pretends he is "adapting" official work you get compared by professional standards. And this guy's video fucking sucks really fucking bad.The 1997 show and movies were made by professionals with a lot of technical skills, and even then it doesn't live up to the manga's quality. Now these random retards with shitty /beg/ tier drawing skills, no experience whatsoever in animation think they can come and "animate" fucking berserk of all possible manga to choose from? Pure fucking retardation.
>>289332359>aicuck copeKeep eating and justifying pathetic AIcrap.
>>289345090>still replying
>>289345090>No argumentsRetarded lold
>>289287544I think it was the shift to jrpg party, core cast of kids weren't gunna just up and die. The lighter, fluffier phase.
>>289282766I agree. No more sidetracking, lolicon or pirate battles. I'd rather read the cringe that was this chapter than another boat trip.
>>289330111Can you gen some Farnese rape horse pics
>>289283109>>dialogues are shit, plot development is shitIs it tough? Or are your expectations twisted?
>>289346412>It stinks! It stinks!>Yes Mr. Skullknight.netter, everything stinks
>>289347696>everything stinksNo, just morijeets and their trash shonenspic fanfiction, who like to cope that anyone who has disagrees with them must be a part of a specific boogieman community of 10 people
>>289347970Since you clearly didn't get ithttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cR2KrJTvJgQ
>>289348004No, my reply is perfectly on point and adresses your cope delusions directly. It's you who didn't get my post
>>289348139Yup, this is going in my cringe compilation.
>>289316908>He caused worldwide upheaval and now postures as the champion of humanity while being the source of their apocalypse, which is utterly shameless.Why on earth would the godhand care about how "shameless" griffith is being? The sheer betrayal of orchestrating the apocalypse while pretending to be humanity's savior is like the exact kind of thing they should be celebrating.
>>289348848So you are making a cringe compilation of the times you've embarassed yourself? That's the kind of self-criticism I can only respect
>implying MOEserk post conviction was any good
>>289282829Fuck off
>>289309144I fucking kneel...
>>289350962better than what we're getting nowreleasing nothing would also be more preferable
>>289336141kek
>>289301965how can people who know so little talk so authoritatively >which includes killing two apostles 1v2please get it right those were pseudo apostles>If you ask meno one needs to because its obvious. guts is telling us as much during the fight
>>289330111penis_on_stomach pls
>>289320493>>289320328Yup yup, Lost Children was truly the best and last good Berserk arc. Than God the continuation is finally getting the plot moving.
