It's time they make a chess anime
already existsnext thread please
>>289290546no it doesn't
>>289290571yes it doesnext thread please
>>289290516Japan doesn't care about chess
>>289290516An anime about people playing chess or an anime about the anthropomorphic chess pieces?
>>289290546FPBP
>>289290824something like Queens Gambit meets Young Ladies don't play Fighting Games
>>289290516URUSAI, TIME TO WATCH CODE GREASS
>>289290824>an anime about the anthropomorphic chess piecesThe latter could work.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Checkmate_(ballet)>but that's balletIf Gonzo could make a shitty seinen anime that fails to understand Romeo & Juliet but somehow still preserve the title, they can make an anime about ballet.
>>289290516Queen's gambit accepted, very brave
>>289290516sounds boring
>>289290516Games like chess and it's variants are not good as the focus of a story, at high level there's no such thing as surprising your opponent or coming back from certain defeat, if something like that happens is because your opponent fucked up, most of the time both sides are mostly equal until one side gets a minor advantage and buils on it, it's even worse when you consider how chess engines can tell the player exactly where they fucked up and the best move in each position, ant chess anime would end up the same as any shogi anime, focusing on everything other than the game itself
>>289292314>chess engines can tell the player exactly where they fucked up and the best move in each positionIt's easy to think along those lines when no human is a position to criticize what a powerful engine says is the best move, but engines don't play perfect chess. The best move according to an engine isn't always the best move there is, but if the engine can't see a better line, then no human player can either, so the difference is academic. A godlike being, or an alien with a planet for a brain, could dumpster stockfish.
>>289290516Close enough and nothing can beat it
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Quibbles aside, I agree with >>289292314 that a game with more chance and opportunity would make for a better anime. Something with a good balance of randomness and skill like mahjong (many examples) or backgammon (would be neat).
>>289292412>A godlike being, or an alien with a planet for a brain, could dumpster stockfishGood luck writing that into a story without people shitting on how retarded your god gamer is
>>289292521That wasn't the point, but if you wanted to have such a being in a story, you could just make the gameplay engine vs. engine and give one engine less time to think. Nobody would be in a position to criticize.
>>289290516https://youtu.be/2XtccnUNHKA NGNL was close enough, I guess?
>>289292426This is what happiness looks like.
>>289292508You can take NGNL direction and fantasy-up chess more or less. Maybe twist the rules a bit?
>>289292426Four lolis on your back will weigh like120 kilo, that would be very painful
I like anime based on games, but unless it's a familiar game to the Japanese audience, you end up exposition dumping the rules. Then, unless the game is really simple, you run the risk of boring everyone to tears. Houkago Saikoro Club did modern games, but focused on simpler ones, probably for that reason. Yugioh was supposed to be about a variety of games, but ended up focusing on just one.
Terror in Resonance sucked
>>289292602I love NGNL for its visual style, but it's more about cheating than it is about playing games.
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>>289292314There's some fun variants out there. A drawback chess story would be really cool.>Regular chess, but both players have a unique randomized restriction they have to follow while trying to take the opponent's king or else they instantly loseThere's potential for a lot of creative drawback matchups as well as clever tricks like deliberately faking a easier drawback to lure the other guy into a feint.
>>289290516no thanks
They should make a whole anime like that K-on doujin where they play Magic the Gathering
>>289292426The LN's (at least until Vol 12, haven't read the rest) are unironically really good at depicting shogi and the competitive flow. Reads like a sports novel with random lolicon shit in between
>>289290516Shōgi*
>>289292426giwtwm
>>289293418Hasbro would then have creative input, which is a disaster. Otherwise it would be fun.
>>289290516You can make like 3 "compelling" chess matches. One with a surprise castling turn-around "woah, he castled at this late stage? I am used to castling happening much earlier, it caught me off-guard", the second with "tricking the enemy who is in a much more favorable position into a stalemate for a draw" and the last being "huh?! en-passant?! Oh yeah, such a rule existed, damn it! I would have won against you, MC-san, if it wasn't for that fucking rule!" After that the audience would lose interest because you can't make it exciting for the audience any more.
High school Japan plays Shogi or Mahjong
It's about time they make a Warhammer 40k anime.
>>289293836As in cute girls playing tabletop?
>>289293867>>289293836
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>>289292314>at high level there's no such thing as surprising your opponent or coming back from certain defeat, if something like that happens is because your opponent fucked up,At a high level people just start to play the metagame, they force errors by abusing things like the total amount of time alloted for the game, the overal tournament standings, they leverage their reputation or elo to instill apprehension or carelessness in their opposition. If you or I were to learn some 40 moves of the best computer theory and lines in a position we could theoretically match even the current world champion, but then he'd notice, cede some advantage to shift lines a little and there goes 10 hours of study down the drain. Chihayafuru is one of the best storts anime in my reckoning, but the sport they play is Japanese poetry slapping, a game that is ultimately much less intricate than chess.
>>289292412>>289292521>the plot of ngnl
>CGDCT series where they play 40k>The nerdy girl plays necrons>The sporty tomboy plays orks>The creepy one plays chaos >The kind hearted big sister one plays tyranids >The MC plays space marines >Smug rival girl from another school plays tau
>>289292636For you
>>289292671if you can play and cheat to win, why not? your life (sometimes your entire race) is at stake.
>>2892923143-gatsu is great
>>289292426God, ai ai Ai!
>>289290516Chess is a Jewish game, it's unfit for Japan
>>289292426Loli paradise !!
Just Caro-Kann every game.
>>289298190Worse, it's Indian.
>>289292426we love Ginko here
>>289290754Then why do they have so many scenes where the villain is moving pieces on a chess board as his keikaku unfolds?
>>289298470It's low IQ subtext for conveying the strategic, predictive style of the villain. It's also a statement about how autists that think chess makes them smarter are stupid, because all of these villains end up getting f'd in the a. So it's mocking chess if anything.
>>289290516Go works better because it's more unpredictable.
>>289298498The sad thing is that you could use a forced mate in x moves as a metaphor for the villain setting things up so no matter what the hero does they still lose, but instead of that they ar best show the villain getting a mate in 1 which usually means the hero is a retard who fucked up
>>289290516the 9295829749285th one?
>>289290571Moniker’s anime is a chesu anime
>>289298426Yes but historically it's been favored by Jews. Only recently chinks and poos got interested in it. And the chess variant invented in India is not technically chess (Chaturanga)
>muh juice
>>289296509And it's not really about shogi at all, you could replace it with any similar game and get the same story
>>289290546>next thread pleaseI'll make an anime about the endless depth of Tic-tac-toe.
>>289290516there should be an anime about all kinds of board and card games, id really like one where there is a combination of poker and tarot cards involving divination. like if you were playing texas holdem and your hand can give you different divination effects depending on the combination, and the combination on the flop would have its own effects on the game
>>289290516Anime where guy gets transported to the past or a different world or something where they play chess but they don't have chess computers but MC does so he cheats his way to the top
>>289290516Is there an anime about TTRPGs?I would watch that. Just strap a bunch of cute girls playing DnD, Vampire or whatever japan likes to play, a dorky male DM and you have cash in the waiting.
>>289299002>I got transported to a parallel world but I have stockfish in my phone so I'll just chess my way into a comfortable life starting form zero
>>289296499>I keep knocking the chess pieces over with my boner
>>289290516Opening theme will be "One Night in Bangkok".
>>289292314>at high level there's no such thing as surprising your opponentWrong. Saccing major pieces in knife's edge positions is always surprising, even at high levels. All it takes is for you to see something that your opponent overlooked.>coming back from certain defeatAlso wrong. Lots of tournaments and individual games have featured surprise comebacks. What makes chess so demanding is that it demands near-perfect play. You can be completely winning the whole game and one mistake is enough to create a draw or even turn it into your loss.>if something like that happens is because your opponent fucked upYou could say that about any competition. Any win means one person fucked up and played sub-optimally while the other person played better, that's where the tension comes from. There's no drama to losing a coin flip.>most of the time both sides are mostly equal until one side gets a minor advantage and builds on it"They were equal until they weren't" is a meaningless statement. >it's even worse when you consider how chess engines can tell the player exactly where they fucked up and the best move in each positionChess engines are much better than human players, but they aren't perfect and they haven't solved chess. You can still "surprise" an engine by playing a move that is good at a depth greater than the search tree it uses to find moves.
>>289292314every time i surprised my opponents playing chess its because i used the same strategy i used to beat msDOS chessmaster 3000's bullshit, set up a trap where he gets sucked into decisions where he chases taking pieces that you want him to take until you just checkmate them out of nowhere
>>289290935Spinzaku is sooo yesterday. These days Spinryde is all the rage.
>>289290516They have shogi, it's better, more exciting.
You think you'd see such dramatic moves like this in chess? Forget it.
>>289290935https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AdDpP7NM-M8
>>289293418There's an actual manga
>>289298470Japs fetishize what they perceive to be sophisticated Western stuff, but that doesn't mean they actually know how to play chess. These supposed big brain geniuses played at like 1000 ELO level: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AB7P0-Qe1Ic
>>289304742Yes
>>289290697They told me I only had to come up with one thread today though
>>289306263This is sorta how duelist kingdom worked.
>>289305826It's true
I'd kill for a chess anime that treats it like YuGiOh treats Duel Monsters.
>>289306263Okay, true. I forgot about that. I will accept a chess anime provided it is chess girls doing cute things or alternatively cute girls doing chess things.Otherwise, I'm afraid we'll have to shut it down and only play a combined game of go and soccer.
>>289290516It`s ranked 25 on MAL
>>289296499Always wondered, based on the art style and thematic overlap, to what extent DxD was inspired by Code Geass...
>>289307558That hack probably wasn't inspired by anything.
>>289298721That's all sports anime.
>>289308040I want to disagree with you, so I will.
>>289292426Several like this:Hikaru no GoMarch comes in like a lionChihayafuruShion no OuLots of mahjong seriesProblem is that Japan has many other games that fill the same niche as chess in the west.I also wish for "local boy beats GMs at their own game" chess manga. Maybe produced by one of the western companies like Netflix.
>>289304697>>289304742This segment was hilarious! A perfect parody of TV shogi presenters.>>289306263I was there for this thread. It was glorious.
>>289292671Cheating and doing BS asspulls of random plans that work not because the plan is smart but because the writing wants to make it seem like the retarded plan is smart.Like the writing can't even make a coin flip not retarded, so of course it also will include bullshit like "I will be able to perfectly predict every word said in a game of Shiritori because I'm just so smart."
>>289290546code geass
>>289311910Code Geass has even less to do with chess than NGNL
>>289293697seconded, its a shame how poor of an adaptation it received
>>289313694Not true, all the battles in season 1 were themed after the flow of a chess game. The last mech battle of season 1 is a Queen trade, C2 for Orange Boy. Jeremiah's new unstoppable mech was moving in bizarre ways all over the battlefield, it was clearly supposed to represent the enemy's Queen piece or perhaps a pawn promoted to Queen. After that trade, the black King gets checkmated by the white knight. Charles won.
I want a fucking anime about a group of nerds playing a table top RPG and not a faggy isekai animelike actually sitting around the table and rolling dice and maybe MAYBE we get a sequence of their characters that dont resemble them doing the action
>>289315264TTRPG requires social interaction. Japanese don't play them.
>>289315299That's patently false. A metric fuckload of their fantasy tropes tropes come from Sword World, and the whole reason they love Lovecraft so much is Call of Cthullu.
>>289293788you could make episodes based on tacticsAbsolute PinAdvanced PawnAlekhine’s GunAttractionBatteryCapture the DefenderClearanceCounter ThreatCross-checkCross-pinDecoyDeflectionDemolition of Pawn StructureDesperadoDiscovered AttackDominationDouble AttackDouble CheckDraw TacticsEndgame Tacticsf2 (or f7) weaknessForkHit-and-runGreek Gift SacrificeIndirect DefenseInterferenceOppositionOverload the DefenderPawn-ForkPawn TacticsPawn BreakthroughPerpetual AttackPerpetual CheckPinsPositional TacticQueen and Bishop BatteryRelative PinRemove the DefenderSacrificeSimplificationSituational PinSkewerStalemate TacticsTempo TacticsTrapped PieceTriangulationTwo Rooks BatteryTwo Rooks on 7th RankUnder-promotionWeak Back-RankWindmillX-RayX-Ray AttackX-Ray DefenseZugzwangZwischenzug
>>289315762This reads like an iceberg meme with just pure bullshit terms thrown in at the lower levels.
I had an idea for a story that used chess as a backdrop, the MC joins the chess club in a join-our-club-or-it-will-be disbanded premise, and they don't really play competitively because there's too few people to play, they just play games and have conversations over them, starting with talking about the game but then going on all kinds of tangentsNow that I'm writing this it really reminds me of Satou's literature club flashback from Welcome to the NHKAnd recently I started reading Gengaku Shijuu Soudan and it's pretty close in structure to what I had in mind
>>289315227Cute chess theming doesn't mean shit when it's clear the writers don't know how to play chess and don't care. The Japanese simply don't give a shit about chess beyond an easy way to represent strategy/intelligence.
>>289290516cheating with vibrating buttplug is not kid friendly anon
>>289315929Sadly chess is a bullshit game based on memorization, if you don't memorize a whole chess manual worth of openings and counters for openings you can't even play online. Beginners will rape you 90% of the time and you won't really improve by 'vibe playing'.
>>289316477You can play just fine at 400 elo
>>289290516You're more likely to get an anime that does autistic deep dives into soccer formations using chess pieces than an actual chess anime.Maybe a hybrid of this would work, football managers playing real time chess using real players, it'd be a great sequel to Blue Lock.
>>289316516If you enjoy losing 90% of the time.
>>289316636I play at 400 elo and no one ever uses any openings. Games are mostly decided by who hangs their pieces first
>>289315762You really think all of these could make people excited with today's non-existent attention-span?
>>289318180Why not? There's a huge market for anime with no plot, like romcom and slice of life. You could have a cute 2nd year girl joining her school's chess club, learning the rules and then eventually there's a whole arc where she preps for a tournament with another school, then in her final year right before graduation she enters a real local chess tournament...etc. When they're not playing chess they're drinking tea or whatever happens in slice of life. Idk.
>>289318180Just look at how many people watch chess streamers, most of whom are beyond one note or lack any charisma whatsoever.
>>289316477You're a retard, you can easily reach 1000elo without bothering to learn any openings, after that you only really need to know one opening really well and a defense for 1e4 and 1d4 and you're good until like 1800elo at least
>>289290516its called classroom of the elite and i'm literally ayanokoji
Is there an anime about checkers though?
>>289319688Easy, gundam
