the absolute state of anime romance.
that's just a problem with relations between the sexes in general, we want to be friends but humans are animals with certain instincts that are hard to overcomeI can't find my danjoru folder so please accept this alternate illustration instead
>stop cold approaching women on the street!>stop hitting on your coworkers!>stop going to hobby spaces just to try to score with girls!>stop trying to take girls home from the bar! >you should become friends first and have a relationship blossom out of that!>
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>>289299609Lmao
>>289299609wdym it's a common problem teenage girls deal with
This is why NTR is now starting to become mainstream
>>289299868I think tinder or going to a bar is more up your alley
>>289300105What the hell is this?
>>289300187nobody under the age of 50 is at the bar
>>289300105wtf
>>289300105I mean, she didn't lie about not getting assaulted. She clearly looked like she was consenting to it.
>>289299609>>289300105Anyone who enjoys either of these should die
>>289301666The anime in the OP is actually really good, the girl is a great character as well she's just having a woman moment as a part of her arc
>>289299609girls do not look good with short hair
Anon imagine this....you have a bro. And he's a lot of fun to hang around. You do fun shit. But occasionally bro gets kinda gay like invading your space and trying to force a romantic moment gay. Do you wanna abandon bro? Do you wanna give up the good times? Are you the asshole for not being equally gay with bro?
>>289301666>>289301732ah yes, it's the author who made pic rel btw.
>>289301732>actually really goodLarge portions of it are painful to sit through. Doesn't pass the "good" bar for me.
>>289301860You might have ADHD
>>289301895I mean the writing is painfully bad, but go off.
>>289301855bro you don't get it. i just want his bussy not his faggot ass bullshit.
>>289301856that's arrogant and purely selfish, i hate women
>>289299609gay ftm, based
>>289301932I mean we all have a past, anon, do you want her judging you for your old girlfriends and hookups?
>>289299609From the pictures it seems she is more into him than him
>>289300417pig isekai
>>289301732I do not believe as this >>289301856 plus you not even having enough confidence to say the name of the show>>289302021Hookup culture is bad and so is sleeping around for both genders. Sex should only be in relationships
>>289299609Context? Is she a troon or does she just want to friendzone the guy?
>>289302021by all means she can judge me till the cows comes home since i'm innocent.
>>289302138Well then how isn't she innocent too?
>>289302135Friendzone
>>289300417An actually unique series with a great worldbuilding, that had no budget and nobody even give it a chance, I hate Frieren so much.
>>289299609Is this a mtf tranny or a ftm tranny?
>>289302289>fat loser gets isekaied and becomes a pigYeah I don't give a fuck at all and crying about how deep and emotional it is or how popular show overshadowed it isn't going to make the premise any more interesting to people
>>289299609Boys and girls can't be friends realistically. And in the rare occasion they do from early childhood, one has to deal with the nonsense of being friendzoned.
>>289302021>I mean we all have a past, anon
>>289300105>>289302289Do you really want this shit to be the champion of people who seethe about Frieren out of nowhere?
>>289301855Honestly, it seems much more common that guys will cut off their friendships if they find out a pal of their's is a fag.
>>289302021nice bait kek
>>289299609We're good fampai. You just like to watch badly written slop.
>>289302021What if I say yes
>>289303135Then I guess you'll just have to accept her taking inventory on every woman you've been with.
>>289303166Deal
>>289303630I mean I guess, but most guys have a way uglier past than girls. Do you really want her going through any times you cheated or just used a girl?
>>289304021>I mean I guess, but most guys have a way uglier past than girlslmao
>>289302021There's nothing to judge me for, and if she's the kind of woman that wouldn't judge me for it if I did have a past, I wouldn't want her anyways.
>>289304197Then why can't you extend that kindness to her?
>>289304248I don't think you understood my post. I'm saying that if she would date a guy that's had hookups, I wouldn't date her. My standards for her include her having standards for me.
>>289299609This is a PSA.Women don't owe you sex.
>>289304389Dating guys that've only had committed relationships seems really strict.
>>289304453fact check: FALSE
>>289304021dude stop it kek
>>289304462Perhaps. But I need a woman that has the same mindset as me about relationships or it won't work out. I'm in it for the long haul, and I refuse to try it with a woman that isn't prepared to do everything in her power to make it last.
>>289304658>I need a woman that has the same mindset as me about relationships or it won't work out.ok but what can 2 pathetic losers accomplish?alsohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0r-palkBk5g
>>289304809What's pathetic about wanting to love someone the right way?
>>289300576Good
>>289305051my mom's best friend is about 60 and I want nothing more than to sleep with her. I want to have the smell of her perfume all over me.
>>289305191Where are the sexy anime grandmas? None of this "she's 60 but has the body of a 25 year old" bullshit
>>289305885Yeah there's a guy who believes in committed relationships.
>>289299609If you think men are interested in you solely because of your looks you're probably correct, because you have nothing else to offer
>>289301853Yes they do you raging faggot
>>289299609she says all this whilst clearly only valuing him for the specifically male energy he injects into her life.
>>289304453men don't owe you protection
>>289306411Protection from what?
>>289306411tasers and pepper spray exists dumb moid. you are useless. go and be target practice for a drone somewhere.
>>289306459Non-american spotted
>>289300105Wait, was the pig being NTR by the guy or girl?
>>289306447from extraterrestrial beings and eldritch horrors from the dark dimensions
>>289306559Just stay out of the hood and you'll be fine
>>289306447other men.>>289306459cute how you think that can stop a man on a mission. also invented by men btw
>>289306656>other menAnd the weatherAnd starvationAnd diseaseAnd wild animalsAnd povertyAnd the consequences of your own actions
>>289306559Those sound like they would be better romantic partners than women no wonder women want them gone
>>289306696I mean they seem to manage against those other five just fine. There's a reason women live longer than men.
>>289306792because men sacrifice to protect you
>>289306838*to daterape you
>>289299609>filenameSeems like the opposite to me and she wants to be more than just his friend.>>289301853There are exceptions and plenty of short feminine hairstyles.>>289306316That's good, though. The sexes need to compliment each other and not against one another because of retarded feminism.
Are anons ITT arguing that you shouldn't be friends with your girlfriend and actually like them as a person, or am I retarded?
>>289306898my point was she's being a massive hypocrite, questioning the motives of his friendship whilst doing the exact same thing to him. She's inventing a problem in her head and is going to ruin a friendship over it.
>>289306898>exceptionsIt's the rule you fucking retard
>>289306881not my problem. no sex, no work
>>289306753I mean, they don't exist IRL in the first place. And the horrors are, well, horrors that'd just kill or eat you.>>289306909A little of both. You like each other in the first place, but I think most men understand where the boundaries lie. Many women don't know what they want, even when they want to take the relationship to the next level.>>289302433>implying all childhood friendships need to lead to marriage
>>289306898She seems to pretty clearly be afraid that Yota is just chummy because he likes her romantically and that he'd never be her friend if he wasn't attracted to her.>>289306909More bitching that women don't like if you wouldn't be their friend if you they weren't their girlfriend.
>>289299609Is this being funded by some western homos? Absolute garbage.
>>289306969>>289307006Now that I've watched it again, that makes sense.>>289306972>what are bobs>what are pixie cuts>what are curtain bangs>what are good short haircuts that don't make you look like an insufferable libtard
>>289307047yes, see >>289301856
>>289306537The pig is an isekaid guy iirc
>>289304453Men don't owe you companionship
>>289299609tl;dw
>>289299609>would he treated me nice if I were a male friendNo bitch, I tell my dudes they are fucking retarded all the time. Then they tell me I'm fucking gay. Dudes are not nice to dudes. We break our balls. We kick freeloaders in the nuts when they don't volunteer to pay a round.
Speaking of retarded romance I recently came across the manga for that picture of "I don't have any firsts to give you" shit post and holy shit, what the fuck is that author smoking. I have no clue if they're being sincere in their writing, venting about lost years being a passive doormat or this is just the state of japanese dating but I never have hateread something so badly.
>>289299609>I like you as a friend.do people really still believe this bullshit when it's already been proved it doesn't work.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_lh5fR4DMA
>>289308443this is why you will be forever alone incel.
>>289302021you god damn SLUT
>>289308239it works the girl just has to be ugly
>>289299609It'd be a true bond if he would still love her if she were a worm
>>289308239>totally yeahHe said that cause they fucked already
>>289299868There's a big difference between only seeing someone as a friend and actively obstructing people from finding love and it's sad you think this is the latter
>>289308443For the best honestly you can't be normal friends after that
>>289308443 Guess she wasn't romantically ready. It's impossible to read women's minds, but like the other guy said, it was for the best.
>>289299868reminder, all of this doesn't matter if you're attractive
>>289309489What the fuck are you talking about
>>289301732The eternal conundrum with female characters is that realistic, well written female characters are annoying as fuck because they're accurate to life.
>>289299609I hate women.
>>289309914He's saying anon is a schizo for equating a girl being worried her friend sees their friendship as courtship with the vague idea that all forms of courtship have been villainized into not being allowed. Which of course is untrue, the issue is just they don't like it when guys they don't like are doing it.
>>289300105feelings are a hassle. feeling things is a curse
>>289309716Seems more like she didn't find anon attractive in that way and didn't want to hurt his feelings, but it backfired.
>>289310254Have you seen the anime? She's disappointed her friend is into her as if he did something wrong, but whenever men online ask >how the hell are we supposed to approach women if x, y, and z are seen as pushy and creepyand the answer is almost always>just get to know them as people first and move from friendship to a relationship i.e. the exact thing Miki is disappointed in Yota didn't even push it onto her, he just said he sees her romantically and can't keep it to himself anymore but is aware she doesn't see him that way from the way she acts, and she still got mad
>>289299609what's wrong with this?Seems reasonable
>>289310236Companionship doesnt necessarily have to be romantic, especially in childhood
>>289308443Subscribed.
>>289311146>>289311011They're half right the issue is positioning it as advice. They formed relationships out of friendships where there was mutual attraction, likely from the start. There's no friendzone because they were never into you, she didn't reject you because she just sees you as a friend she rejected you because she was never attracted. The good advice is befriend people in general and be open to whatever comes, however you can't actually expect shit to happen. It's just a passive way of looking for relationships but it does leave you in a position where you're probably doing stuff with your friends and meeting more people some of whom will be women.
>>289311356it's women not understanding male sociality or courtships expectations or what the word 'friend' means. she says "make friends first" because that's how women find relationships; they naturally are social creatures and like to build big social groups filled with men and women, and they consider all these casual acquaintances to be their 'friends'. eventually one of the men in that group will make a pass and if she's receptive they'll pair up. this isn't how men work. we don't naturally seek out social situations, we only go and interact with other people out of utility; when we NEED to. and we'd NEVER call a casual acquaintance a 'friend', that term is exclusively reserved for people we'd trust our lives and reputation to. so when a man tries to make friends with a woman he takes it far more seriously than she does. which is what, in her mind, moves him from "member of her social circle" to "bestie". in other words, the friendzone.
>>289311489That sounds like an issue on the men's part.
>>289311146>>289311356its bullshitif you start an honest friendship with a girl, but eventually you start falling in love for her, because she treated you nice, because you liked something from her, or even because she gave you "hints", the social verdict will depend SOLELY in the girl´s opinion:>if she accepts you: SEE CHUDS? a romance can emerge from a HEALTHY friendship>if she rejects you: YOU destroyed a nice friendship just because YOUR egoistical desires, and now the poor woman will be traumatized and afraid of looking for male friendships because YOUalso, if genuine friendships FREQUENTLY turn to romance, those jealous fuckers have a point: a woman cant have more male friend than her own father
>>289301853Truth nuke
>>289311514>men takes friendship more seriously than women, giving the term "friend" a real meaning far from "someone i know lmao">its men fault
>>289300105I have "reincarnated as weird shit" fatigue
>>289311593You're playing it like it's a perfect 100% strategy to form a relationship with any woman you want. The first greentext is true, a romance CAN emerge from a healthy relationship. Is it always going to? No but it can. The second greentext only happens if someone decides the friendship can't continue now which is on them, you can 100% just stay friends if it doesn't become a romance. But none of this is guaranteed, the same way cold approaching isn't guaranteed. There is no guaranteed way to have a woman want you romantically, which is is the issue with a lot of men. They're too afraid of the probability of failure on their way to success that they refuse to acknowledge it. Make friends, be social, be open, be accepting if something doesn't work out and move onto the next thing, don't be so fucking concerned what people who don't actually care about you fucking think.
>>289311784It's not about guaranteed or not, it's about acceptable avenues for men to shoot their shot without offending the woman, they'll say being friends first is the right way compared to hitting on them out of nowhere but they'll still complain if you do that but they don't like you romanticallyIn short there are essentially no ways for unattractive men to come forward to a woman without them being offended, they should know better and just stop existing
>>289311899Or just become more attractive.
>>289306447Being a broke fucking bitch.
>>289311923Women's attractiveness standards for men are all inborn>face bones>hair genetics>heightYou can get around them with money but they won't actually like you, just taking advantage of you
>>289311983I dunno man there's a lot of bald short ugly motherfuckers out there that do okay.
>>289312009There really aren't
>>289312022There absolutely are, try going outside.
>>289312075I do, there really aren't
>>289312122I don't think I've ever seen you out there. So which one of us is lying?
>>289300105Why would she do this to my pigga?
>>289302021tits or gtfo
>>289309741Yes the worlds unfair and no one like ugly people sorry
>>289302289Yes im sure the "guy turns into a pig and wants to fuck a human child and then gets cucked" show is actually really deep and meaningful
>>289312676I'm a dude.
>>289308210You wanna really pop a vein? read through "It's not Meguro-san's first time".
>>289301855Personally i would just tell my friend that my asshole is for large blackwomen only
>>289302289Good. That's what every isekai deserves.
>>289312805Whore.
>>289308799>incelGo back.
>>289302087>Hookup culture is bad and so is sleeping around for both genders. Sex should only be in relationshipst. virgin on 4chan.
>>289302676Literally everything is better than Frieren.
>>289299609This is so immature and selfish.
>>289299609>I'm sure he feels the same way>He should feel and behave the way I WANT.Do women really.
>>289312795While I reading that First Time shitty one, all I could think that this tryhard """"""""serious""""""" romcom was getting its romance shat on by an ecchi sexcom about the exact same couple dynamic, but done in a way that human beings could relate to.I have to assume this Meguro is another insanely retarded redemption story about how aliens found a book about human courting and relationships and the 5th generation of telephone is trying to make a manga about it
so as a sub/5 what the fuck do we do now?
>>289308210the author is a woman.Nuff said.
>>289313825did the guy in pic fall for her later?
>>289314407Yes, their relationship started with him relenting to her advances to date so she would realize he's a boring loser and that she'd move on after realizing that. However both of them actually start enjoying each other's company and hey help each other grow. It feels like a way more grounded and realistic interaction between an experienced girl and a virgin, especially compared to Keiken Zumi.>>289314386Yea that tracks. Nobody but one of those weirdo sexless femcels would write that garbage.
>>289299609Can any women here explain this phenomenon? Would you rather date and fuck a random dude you meet on a dating app, whose personality might just be made up to pick up girls (tells you what you want to hear), but ultimately only wants sex, instead of a guy you've been friends with for years? You already know his personality and know he's dependable (otherwise why are you even friends with him?). If the roles were reversed, any guy would wife up his female friend in a second. The problem is that women in those situations are never vocal, and the guy will never know until it's too late (happened to me)
>>289314777Male anon here. All the guys I've known who are friends with a chick for years ended up staying that way, or getting ghosted.Even in my home country, where there's basically no dating they've ended up marrying the stranger they don't even know over a long time friend, for whatever reason.Probably if they friend you, you're never truly attractive to them.
>>289314904But if it were a female friend of yours who just confessed her feelings to you vs a girl you just met on a dating app, who would you choose? Most men would choose the friend with no hesitation, but women on the other hand would choose the random guy and feel the "ick" that the make friend even confessed to her. That was the point I was trying to make.
>>289314904>Probably if they friend you, you're never truly attractive to them.My childhood friend and I.I don't think I have ever heard of a successful childhood romance in real life outside of internet stories which is rare by itself.
>>289314982It depends on her attraction level, honestly. I had a classmate in school who always spent time with me in breaks, library sessions and such. We shared many of the same hobbies. If she'd confessed to me, I still would've said no because she just wasn't attractive. From the first day I knew her she was fat, and by the time we finished college she was 5 ft 10 and somewhere between 80 and 90 kilos.
>>289299868This is the problem with men. They approach women and dating like it's a logic problem with a definitive solution. They put what they're told is the solution into practice and then it doesn't work because surprise, women are human beings and not math problems. Then they get angry because "how could the solution not solve the problem?"Instead of realizing that there's no right answer they see the solutions as being objectively correct, and decide that it's the women who are wrong for not complying with them. Then they shoot up a school or something.
>>289299609women are so retarded, bros...
>>289315301Hey... Can i see your female tits...?
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>>289299609This anime would be banned if Shinzo Abe was still alive.
>>289304021My guy, you have to be baiting.
>>289306000
>>289306656Based>>289306559coward
>>289315785Where's the bait? We've all had girlfriends, hookups, situationships, it's weird that you'd look down on women for doing the same.
>>289299609>best friend and love interest at once wife
>>289315862They can't relate, they never had that, so they think it's bait.Which is probably a big part of why this group is so intent on getting a ""pure"" girl too. It is not just the cause of nothing happening for them (unless they give money to child traffickers), it is also the consequence. They don't want to enter sex life as the inferior and the more ignorant one, even if it's just experience wise.
>>289315996How, everyone basically just falls into it during High School? Is it like a religion thing?
>>289306459It's actually so odd to think there's so many applications that levels the physical disparities between a woman and potential attacker, yet most of them just don't use any of those gadgets nor care about self defense in general.
>>289307006>More bitching that women don't like if you wouldn't be their friend if you they weren't their girlfriend.Why does this make women upset to begin with anyways?
>>289306000Not even basic life skills (which many people unfortunately lack nowadays)?
>>289316195It implies you don't actually like them as a person and that the friendship is going to end when the guy gives up
>>289312883What’s your body count?
>>289316266So women think if you like someone romantically that means you don't like them as a person. I suppose when dating is just a means for free food and gifts that's the conclusion you'll come to.
>>289315996>They don't want to enter sex life as the inferior and the more ignorant oneNo, that's exclusively what YOU think. In most cases, the worry is that girls with promiscuous pasts don't actually care to commit to long term relationships and only opts for one-night stands
>>289315996>>289316061Okay guys, we can stop the jokes. It's all getting a bit tiring.
>>289316266>It implies you don't actually like them as a person and that the friendship is going to end when the guy gives upBut if that's the case, why give a shit? Shouldn't you be happy to see a person gone from your life you perceive as never caring about you to begin with?
>>289315301It is a problem with a definitive solution you fucking retard.It's called being attractive and not being unattractive. It really isn't that complicated. Except that the solution is taking a hammer to your face and stretching your body to the required dimensions.
>>289316485It still kind of sucks losing a friend, especially if they reveal they never cared about you outside the idea of becoming romantic.>>289316325Not necessarily but the issue is just ditching the friendship after it becomes clear it won't develop past that.>>289316550Sounds like a recipe to turn yourself into a lolcow known for being gay and mid. Why not just become rich and/or funny?
>>289315301>prey explains to hunter how hunting actually works
>>289317081>Hunter who's never bagged anything Seriously though, use some fucking critical thinking and atleast try to get some insight on the people you're trying to attract even if you're aware you can't fully trust their bias perspective
>>289317117The insight is they are lying their tits off to weed out weak men dumb enough to listen to them. End of story.
>>289317155Literal retard mentality but okay.
>>289310084Realistic characters aren't good characters.
>>289317180Yeah, that's women for you.
>>289316982You're 4chins faggot, why aren't you neither rich or funny yet?On serious note, people want genuine physical attraction.Look at Bezos and his disgusting blowup doll or whatever billyg can pull.You can always pay to win, but it's just not the same.
>>289317117>>289317117You know, you're right. We shouldn't apply logic to women. Ack-tually, we should beat the living shit out of them so they both fear and are attracted to men once again because of primal instinct.
>>289315301>Then they shoot up a school or something.that was really a huge jump in logic to make for a pretty rare phenomenon, especially when in 90% of those cases the shooter was a victim of long-time bullying the authorities failed to do anything about. I'm not really sad when people who do that get what they deserved to be desu.
>>289302021Yes, I don't mind her judging me as a low inhib subhuman if I had past hookup and gfs I broke up with and yes this includes porn addiction and paying prostitutes.
>>289299609How is a potential love interest not a human being worthy of friendship? Was this bitch raped or something?
>>289317232>>289315301Most violence against women are done by people whom they've chosen to be with. Not this so called inkwel boogeyman. Most violent people are also fairly non virgin though it has less to do with woman's dumb decision and more to do with most of them coming from low income backgrounds where barries to sex is much lower.
Women bite the hand that feeds them.Women gush the had that beats them.
/fit/ told me getting fit would make me attractive enough to get girls, the girls show interest now but I shut down. Being autistic is I guess a permanent filter, a genetic deadend. The only girls who put up with me being shy are the fat/ugly ones which are below me.
>>289315301I don't think it's wrong to expect there to be a clear path laid out in society that leads to you being married and a father, since that's the foundation of society.
>>289317344Girls don't care about these super jacked roided out body types. That's something men want to be because it displays power to other men. It conveys nothing sexual to women. Women either want shredded final fantasy twinks or chubby dad bods.
>>289317321Epic fail
>>289317344I just can't hold conversations, I freeze up with cute girls. It's impossible. I don't know what to talk about. My workout routine? How much I love anime? This one giga Stacey kept smiling at me so I walked over and talked to her but I just froze and then I pretended I had to go. Autistic people should be culled at birth, literally torture to live like this. I'm not a steroid user either, just toned but none of this matters if I can't talk. I'd give anything to be a ugly retard with God tier rizz.
>>289317081I mean, cut down the typical foid speak and logic and its actual good advice. >Just don't bother, if you get one you'll get one lmao She's not asking you to do step 1, 2, 3 to get a gf, she's laying out out to you that most relationships have some level of mutual attraction to the other and men should stop bothering with approaching it like a math problem to solve and just hope some girl is attracted to you lmao. And if they don't, just lower your standards and/or look somewhere else. Most women instinctually knows this, they just hate admitting it because you know, women.
>>289317583??? You expect us to just tell guys we don't care for "go look somewhere else?"You need us to tell you this? You can't figure it out yourself? How retarded are you, jesus. Moreover women beat around the bush because men might chimp out on them at rejection. If you're a guy who can't take a hint there's a good chance you're one of those as well. Sorry they're not willing to take a risk so you can get free self help.
>>289317694>90% of assaults from men in relationships with those womenYou can't even properly choose a guy cause rape/abuse chad still wins.
>>289317694>You expect us to just tell guys we don't care for "go look somewhere else?"No? That was never my point, in fact my statement is in fact the opposite? I don't know where you're even chimping out lmao. >Moreover women beat around the bush because men might chimp out on them at rejection.Correct, that's why I said this"Most women instinctually knows this, they just hate admitting it because you know, women."
>>289315301This would make sense in a vacuum (except the last part), but the point feels kind of contradictory with the post you were replying to: if you really think that men shouldn't think of dating as a logical problems with definitive rules, then women should also not arrogantly make up fake "problems" and spew moot "rules" as those brought up and criticized by that anon.Otherwise everyone with a brain will assume that you're retarded and/or in bad faith, like aiming for something as >>289317155 states.Unless you know, you're saying that "no means yes" after all.Dating may not be logical problem-solving, but angrily shuffling cards out some sort of weird spite and making up rules on the spot because otherwise things would be too easy and enjoyable for the other side surely does not help.Regardless, men should not be forced to deal with this childish bullshit. But this is women and modern dating, so here we are: no choice but to learn the hard way to filter all the stupid lies that for some whatever reason women love to say.
>>289317322Nah you're just a pussy. Stop being a pussy. People find you attractive, you have shit you like right? Talk about shit you like, go in wanting to have the conversation you want to have. Stop going into interactions with the goal to impress others and go in with the goal to have fun.
>>289317846The only time im not a pussy is when im drunk, liquid courage is legit.
>>289311678get the over-exposure treatment from last season
>>289315301>They approach women and dating like it's a logic problem with a definitive solution.This is in fact the case. Unfortunately not everyone has the required capacities to apply the solution(s) in practice. Just like a cripple will never complete an ironman triathlon, despite that fact that it is perfectly well understood what an able-bodied man has to do to succeed at the task.Now the real issue is that the requirements for dating are rapidly approaching the same dimensions as those for entering an ironman contest. Men fail at dating not because there is no solution but because the effort required for successfully applying the solution is utterly insane. In the spirit of this anon's post >>289317351 I also don't believe keeping it this way is remotely sustainable. Shutting the entire bottom half of men out of dating is not healthy for society and can't work long term. Something's got to give.
>>289312712That's fine. Just be honest with that and accept the long term consequences of social upheaval, more extremist movements and all kinds of little things that are going to completely ruin your comfy, morally enlightened middle-class drone existence.
>>289300576that's because you're going to the bars your parents go to instead of hitting up a uni town
>>289317963If only it was just the bottom half, we're talking about ~80% of men that women would rather didn't exist
>>289318026You wont do shit
>>289315301You're on the right track, except your implicit conclusion is that this is the fault of men at large, when it is in fact the fault of an elite that has socially engineered women to be whores and men to be docile drones.
>>289317232>especially when in 90% of those cases the shooter was a victim of long-time bullyingThis has never been true, that has always been a forced narrative to distract from actual causes.School shooters are rarely the bullied. In some instances they might PERCEIVE social inferiority (like the nigpill shooter from the sharty, who also wasn't actually bullied), but more often than not they're just loose cannons, like the Columbine shooters.
>>289317384>>289317321>Women bite the hand that feeds them, because they "think" that It might be a trap, and that hand will hurt them in the future>Women gush the had that beats them. because they "think" that It's his "strong feelings/love" for her that's pushing him to do this, and the same hand used to beat her will protect her from harm in the futureThis is why women love "bad boys", because they "think" they know them, all while they think "good guys" have secret bad intentions. That's female intuition for you
>>289318062I don't have to, I'm just pointing out the way the wind is blowing.
So is this the moids vs foids thread? Anime?
>>289318109in your dreams maybe
>>289299609>>289315301Generally a lot of men don't really view women as people is the issue.For the example in the OP, which was written by a woman (and this isn't the first time that anime has been controversial for writing pretty grounded and realistic female views on real life romance), the "childhood friend to romantic partner" idea is an almost uniquely MALE ideal.Imagine if one day your guy friend (presuming any of you has friends), one you've known for decades, you've been babysat together, gone to school together, you've seen him do embarrassing and fucked up shit that every kid does, but everything you've ever done has been under the guise of 'friendship'.Now imagine that MALE friend (even if you're a guy) said he wanted to change your relationship. That he wanted to, in no uncertain terms, eventually have sex with you. Have a child with you. Sleep in the same bed as you for the rest of your life.There's that offputting factor there, but there's also the whole issue of yeah, you want your romantic partner to be your best friend in the abstract sense, but you don't want your whole life to literally revolve around this one person, from cradle to grave. And generally women are unlike men in the sense that every approach they get from the opposite sex, even if it is a family member, has to be construed as a sexual encounter in some way FOR that opposite sex. You could say that's absurd, but I'm also sure all of you have had fantasies about a particular cashier at a fucking grocery store. That's their whole lived experience.>inb4 some fag gets upset
>>289318131There's very few men who will just be friends with a girl with 0 intention of ever fucking her.
>>289301855>>289318131This comparison fundamentally doesn't work because you're asking straight guys to imagine being gay whereas women are just being asked to consider a man as a man while remaining straight Though it does reveal the fact that women don't see 90% of men as men which is the real issue
>>289299868You forgot the real reason for all those rules: "You are not attractive."You can do all those things and then some if you are attractive.
>>289318167Yeah that's what I said>Generally a lot of men don't really view women as people is the issue.>>289318172>This comparison fundamentally doesn't work because you're asking straight guys to imagine being gayThat's not what I said. I said imagine if someone you aren't attracted to (in this case, another man), who you have known and been best friends with for years if not decades, suddenly decided they wanted to have a romantic relationship with you.>whereas women are just being asked to consider a man as a man while remaining straightNo, you're asking to completely change the context of the relationship for them. To bring into question whether you were ever friends in the first place.The reason this is a concern is because there are many instances, probably a lot of you have done this, where a man will ask out their 'best (female) friend', get a rejection, and then slowly (or immediately) stop talking to them. To you that might be because of embarrassment, but to the girl that makes it seem like you spent years pursuing a romantic relationship.
I think the issue is for the past 2 decades society has sold men the idea that "equality is real" and being fat/ugly isnt a problem. The issue however is this is a lie. Women should all just start pushing and openly admitting that fat/ugly men are subhuman. Be honest.
>>289317890Get drunk on yourself, the dopamine is already in your brain.
>>289318172Nobody is asking you to be gay, just to understand not being attracted to someone who's attracted to you and you're friends with. You could also just imagine a really ugly chick if it helps you conceptualize.
>>289318131>Generally a lot of men don't really view women as people is the issue.And can you blame them? Dating was much less dysfunctional when women were treated as second class citizens lmao. Even women are jealous about their grandparents relationship.
>>289318257>Why do I have to live in a world where nice guys always finish last?
>>289318284I mean I agree, however fat women are pretty subhuman too unless you are one of those "high t" fatty chasers. The only thing thats good about fat girls is they will do literally anything for you because they also know they are low value.
>>289318131>a lot of men don't really view women as people is the issueWell, the sentiment is obviously mutual, so what are you trying to imply? Not like foids have any sympathy to spare for low status losers. "Incel" is their most vicious insult for a reason.
>>289318315What? That was not my point lmao.
>>289318213>That's not what I saidYou literally did, and you just repeated it, straight men are naturally repulsed by the idea of having sex with other men, while they're willing to consider sex with a wide variety of women, meanwhile women are naturally repulsed by the idea of having sex with 90% of men because they don't see them as men, that's what your comparison is exposing but you're trying to mask it as something fair and rational>No, you're asking to completely change the context of the relationship for them. To bring into question whether you were ever friends in the first place.Then why not set the premise with a female friend? Or two gay guys? Because you know it'd expose the hypocrisy and double standard >The reason this is a concern is because there are many instances, probably a lot of you have done this, where a man will ask out their 'best (female) friend', get a rejection, and then slowly (or immediately) stop talking to them.No it's because having unrequited feelings makes for an imbalanced and unsustainable toxic relationship/friendship, which are ideally between equals, once you find out you're not equals anymore you have no reason to hang around
>>289318327>But call him an Incel and you will be astonished at how he recoils, how injured he is, how he suddenly shrinks back: 'I've been found out'.
>>289318240Again with the imbalanced comparisons, you're basically admitting women see most men the same way men see really ugly chicks (a tiny minority of women)You are physically unable to face the truth
>>289318364>most menWell I didn't imply that but this is really more an issue with men's standards isn't it?
>>289318327>women don’t view men as people because they won’t spread their legs for meEven ignoring the fact that you probably approach women like a dead fish and they get zero signals from you, this is a retarded sentiment and illustrates a very common lack of empathy.By your logic, you don’t view men as people because you won’t give them brojobs.>>289318328I was saying you were like Elliot Rodger.>>289318342This is a spectacular wall of cope that is, again, reliant on ideas that again, show you view women as not being people, but simply automatons who were all preprogrammed to not want to fuck you.Really I think it’d be obvious that the issue is with you considering you’re here on an anonymous imageboard having a pity party with fellow losers who all have the same shared experiences, and coincidentally, the same personality types and views on women.
>>289318379That is implied given that the hypothetical is>woman experiences a male friend expressing feelings and your comparison being>man experiences a really ugly woman expressing feelingsSince the first one doesn't specify the attractiveness of either the man or the woman we can infer that we're talking about the averages, since your comparison felt the need to specify a tiny minority of ugly women, you're implying that women see most men as undesirable as men see a tiny minority of women
ITT anons projecting their past relationships.
>>289318417>This is a spectacular wall of cope that is, again, reliant on ideas Unable to face the truth again >that again, show you view women as not being peopleApex of projection
>>289318213>I said imagine if someone you aren't attracted to (in this case, another man), who you have known and been best friends with for years if not decades, suddenly decided they wanted to have a romantic relationship with you.Even if they were gay, I wouldn't attribute malice to his friendship till then and I wouldn't even blame him when he wants to be distant from me after rejection. I wouldn't reduce his friendship and his pursuit to 'just wanting to sleep with me'.But most woman are unable to see most men as even humans so this behaviour so this behaviour induces seethe in them.
>>289318417>I was saying you were like Elliot RodgerAnd I was saying you're pretty retarded
>>289318178You would be surprised that the average person is average in looks and those that get truly disqualified from finding a partner are quite literal ogres with deformities. Looks will make people notice you but the substance then decides whetever it turns into an actual, healthy, long-term relationship or a 2 week high which ends turning the women into angry feminists who hate men because they can't understand that they got tricked by guys who are looking for pumps and dumps.
Man you all are retarded faggots, once the economy shits the bed and a war starts you will see what your grandparents saw. The only people that will miss out are low t soiboy cucks and feminist queers.
>>289318437>relationshipsTheir feelings of rejection the first time their crush told them "no" at best, what the masculinist algo bubble told them at worst.
>>289318419The hypothetical is for YOU/other anons who'd try to bend over backwards to make the woman someone you're attracted to thus open to starting a romance with. I honestly started with a guy because I know you don't have any female friends. But at the point of this mental exercise is imagine someone you're not attracted to but enjoy spending time with as a friend, now imagine how shitty it would be that you might lose your friend because you don't reciprocate that attraction. Can you imagine? What if you didn't eat breakfast this morning? Imagine if women weren't the nigger of the world, it's easy if you think about it.
>>289299609Seems like this cartoon character will need to work on herself to accomplish her goals! I don't mean that as a rebuke or as any kind of moralism, it just is what it is. Friendship between people is (you already know this) born out of shared interests, shared outlooks, or different outlooks that complement each other well, etc. There are multiple kinds of glue but there's always something. You can't just pick two random points in personality-space and will them to become friends. Definitely not because you think it's "sad" or "shallow" for people to be mainly drawn together by romantic and sexual impulses.There has to be *something* to pull them together! She doesn't have to somehow masculinize herself into a bro-with-a-pussy or anything (conversely, he wouldn't have to feminize himself into "one of the girls," if he was the one who had a problem with their relationship). But. Common cause.
>>289318500dumb argument, just accept that men want your snatch and everything before is pretense, this will never change because if women didnt have tits and pussy to give they'd be literally worthless, most men do not enjoy just "hanging out" with a girl, they torture themselves because they wanna fuck you
>>289318500Wasn’t that just a song
>>289318500Changing the frame of reference to a gay guy friend doesn't refute his point, in fact makes his argument stronger. I don't know why you insist on shooting yourself in the foot with these retarded analogies.
>>289318131According to you, only women can decide when their feelings change towards a male friend and only women are permitted to act on these feelings and tell a man she wants to move him out of the friendzone and start dating. Because men who aren't chad looking, have 6 pack abs or make 6 figures aren't people thus they don't any right to have any feelings toward any woman or even act on It. If they do, they're creeps and worse than actual rapists and woman beaters
>>289317837Nobody's "angrily shuffling cards". While you're "spitting game" women are at worst minding their own business completely oblivious/uninterested and at best trying to determine if you're a good idea for them. If they decide you're not it's not that you're a bad person or that they flipped a coin and it landed wrong. Get over yourself. Think of yourself as a weird exotic fruit. Some women might look at you and be repulsed instantly, others will be interested by your colorful shiny appendages only to realize you stink and understandly dismiss you (this is a real thing by the way, people with bad genetic compatibility don't smell good to you), others will be interested and then be enticed enough to try a bite. It's the laws of attraction, taste, interest. You can't control that. All you can do is put yourself on display, generate interest withing as large a pool of potential clients as you can, and hope for the best.
>all the idiots in this thread falling for obvious bait.
>>289318257>second class citizensNot really. They just knew their place as someone who spends time managing the household, kid(s), and go shopping for the family
Incels arent real, stop being an obese loser. Get a job and work out. Femcels are of course a myth as well. If you live in muttmerica well luck you, 70% of the population are ugly AND fat so now you can stand out. The bar is in hell.
>>289318638Actually men can do this too, but the issue is none of you can recognize signals and think too much with your dicks.If you just want a women to have sex with, that’s what dating apps are for. The entire intent there is laid plain and there are women who are there for that.Though I suppose the far larger issue of one’s own personality would rear its head for much of you.
>>289318510...relatedly, it's fine if you guys want to do 'incel' discourse for the millionth time, but I don't think it has much to do with the content of the OP? How I read it was, more or less, two people in a burgeoning romantic relationship (or something visibly leading towards that), where the woman is frustrated this romance isn't being completed by an urge-towards-friendship on the guy's part. The woman is the one experiencing privation and insecurity, whereas the man seems basically content about the course of the relationship. She's, in some sense, the incel (but it's fine to have incel-style bitterness and we should be understanding).
>>289317805>you know, women Is a very strange and dishonest way to say "they don't say it because some men do not react well to blunt rejection".
>>289318500>>289318581Also you're mostly talking past each otherYou say it's inherently bad that 'men' try to romantically pursue while he says that women are angry that 'men they're not attracted to' romantically pursue them.You attribute malice to the very act men do, thinking men do it because they don't see women as people. As if only men engage in such behaviour. In your ideal world, none of them makes a move and people just pairs of naturally from mutual attraction while he calls this a dystopia because he's rightfully aware that such a world would most likely result in a place where majority of men would be written off of a relationship. You expect men to accept this predicament(or if you're a woman, most likely never even thought that far and thinks this would result in everyone pairing off with 1:1).Also your analogy breaks apart because most men unless they're homophobic can understand that gay guy friend and wouldn't dismiss his feelings as 'just wanting to sleep with him'. But then I know you would argue it's because men don't feel threatened but women do which again proves my point that most women don't even see most men as humans, more like monsters, hence why they prefer the bear lmao.
>>289318498regardless, it's just an issue of men having lack of figure that would teach them how to behave around a woman and women being too jaded to bother giving it straight to some misguided autist or having too big of an ego from getting all that low tier attention. It's a failure of development during teenage years, where girls mature faster than boys and get jaded way too quickly, while boys get no guidance what's so ever from anyone whilst also getting curb stomped further for acting like an ape sometimes due to hormones thus making them jaded and stupid as well.A honest conversation without any predisposition between each other could possibly fix this problem, but I guess that's asking a lot
>>289318738That's fucking retarded, many apps have an option for people who are looking for longterm. And even if they don't you can just specify in your bio. In fact I have friends who found themselves got married and had a kid within a year, all on tinder.
>>289318790The future is chads with harems of women on tinder while the rest of men get scraps or nothing. This wont change until people start taking away womens rights.
>>289318802>muh father figureYour great great grand father didn't bother with that shit when he was raping his 16 yo wife buddy.
>>289318811Did I say they didn’t have long term relationship options?But generally, dating apps exist for hookups, and most of you clearly don’t want a “romantic companion”, you want a sex doll and are too embarrassed to hire a prostitute.Go on tinder, fuck a girl who might have an STD, realize sex is honestly less fun than jerking off these days and that’s why zoomers aren’t having sex or going out, and then move on with your life.
>>289317321>>289318084That’s based though, see >>289317228
>receiving multiple friendzoned because you want a wife that is also a best friend.Some of the rejections go well, and you continue to talk.Other just straight up hate your guts kek.
>>289318878>But generally, dating apps exist for hookups, and most of you clearly don’t want a “romantic companion”, you want a sex doll and are too embarrassed to hire a prostitute.Go on tinder, fuck a girl who might have an STD, realize sexalready did this
>>289318802Why do you think women are some gay fairies who possess all the knowledge about dating and relationships and selfishly deprive you of it? Even if you asked them all they could tell you is just what they personally like or dislike, and even then they could be wrong because there's definitely a subsconscious, self knowledge element to it. Sure some have more experience than others but even they cannot tell you how it works for everyone. There might be rules to this, there might not be, it's like jazz. You make it up as you go with what you have and depending on who the audience is it's gonna work. Or not.
>>289318878>sex is honestly less fun than jerking off these daysHonestly yeah, this is why I never even bothered having one.
/a/ - Modern 3D Relationship Dynamics
>>2893189523DPD is taking over
>>289318952Most /a/ users are just /v/tards on vacation.That’s why 90% of the board is shounenshit generals and stuff from Twitter like this. Most people here haven’t even seen the anime in the OP and don’t remember that they got mad at this series last year.
>>289318829sure let's just continue going at each other's throats and slowly vanish>>289318934that's the point, because it's not a solid rule. Woman like to be indirect, while man likes to be straightforward. It would be best for everyone if they met each other at middle point, where man goes out of his way to learn woman's pace while woman giving some break to a man if he messes up
>>289318820This caused revolutions before because men had little to no other options but now we've plenty of solutions to this. The only issue is social ostracization due to gooner lifestyle which once gone will no longer be an issue.
>>289319046>sure let's just continue going at each other's throats and slowly vanishIn case you didn't get the point, we only started being at each other's throats and slowly vanish when we started caring about women's opinion.
>>289319098So humanity was all one big loveless marriage, i guess
>>289311660Women Most Effected
>>289319170Lol. Btw in case you didn't know, evenmost women used to didn't even care about women's opinion, voting rights was universally unpopular among women when it was introduced. Women were the majority of conservative voter base until the 90s.
>>289319215Yeah, and back in the good old days, a freak like you would’ve been bullied into suicide or smothered with a pillow.
>>289319265Lol whatever headcanon about me that helps you sleep at night I guess.In case you're still clueless, your father didn't birth you because his grand father was there to teach him 'how to talk to women'. It was just expected of most women and most of them desperately got in to one to not be seen as a spinster.
>>289319265>>289319305Back in the good old days anyone posting on this site would have had their face caved in if you even slightly deviated from the norm.
>>289319265>>289319305And I was talking about really young women here, not 25+ old wine aunts. Tolkien's wife considered herself too old in her early 20s lmao.
I don't know where exactly to join the flame, so I'll just speak into the void replying to a buch of different messages at once.Women should understand that while men like women a lot in many other different ways, most women are simply not that interesting as "friends" for males, and therefore it's kind of stupid and selfish to expect them to force themselves in a forced "friendship" that really doesn't give them as much as she's getting from it. Therefore befriending a girl is often for pursuing her romantically, which does not imply "hurrr, you dun see as person", because there are some traits (yes, even personality traits, i.e. your own PERSON) that may be attractive relationship-wise but not friendship-wise.I don't understand why women want to compete with men on this specific field. Yeah I guess in some relatively rare case it might happen, but overall it's a silly grudge to have given how many women seem to see most men as NPC grunts.Nature just didn't plan on making you interesting in that specific narrow sense most of the times clearly, but you'll still be liked in so many other ways that whining and making a fuss about that one specific thing is a bit ridiculous.Whenever he tries to be a friend first in order to get with you romantically, a man is not thinking>"female detected: downloading social programming... completed: humanity discarded, 'simple_friendship' permission denied, initiating stealth living-sex-object acquisition"The simpler answer is that you're just not that interesting in the male concept of "friend", even if you may be interesting as a "person" (romantically). Is it the way women enjoy/think/talk about things that is not really relatable for men in general? Who knows, but here it is. Nobody is denying you your humanity for simply not considering you all-around 100% interesting in 100% of your social angles: that's a dramatic and narcissist way of thinking.And/or, it hurts staying close to someone you were rejected by, clearly.
>>289319312Back in the good old ways, everything an average poster here posts would be considered common sense. It's only considered "mental illness" because we are convinced of our own hubris and wanted to pretend things were different lmao and had to relearn the lessons the hard way.
>>289299964Is she also fucked up?
>>289319366foids struggle to accept that chad, chad lite and kyle the betabux boy only talk to them to get laid
>>289318556There’s more to life with them than only having sex thoughbeit Look at the gosling posters in this board
>>289319488That's true but when it comes to women sex/companionship is the goal. If you survey 1000 men and ask "would you just be friends with a woman with zero chance of sex/companionship" the number of men that would say yes would be in the single/low double digits.
Btw I don't even want to go back to the le good old days. I just find it funny people think the recent problems didn't exist in the past because we lost some magical spark or way of doing things(Like the guy who started ranting about le mentor figures guiding young men we lost or the women talking about how their jealous of their grandparents relationship and how long it lasted) instead of the actual far more cynical reasons it worked.
>>289319305My dad birthed me because he was doing bar crawls into his late 20s and my mom thought he was 16 and tried to groom him.I am significantly older than you by the way.
>>289318820Probably, but we'll also see a regression in terms of wealth and quality of life for everyone. The men who get nothing therefore won't have any stakes in the continued success of society either. So rather than productive members they'll become dead weight in some form or another. NEET parasites at best, career criminals at worst.
>>289318131>childhood friend to romantic partner" idea is an almost uniquely MALE idealIt's really not, there are plenty of joseimuke and shojomuke shows that do that to the point where a few literally explain the appeal of CF love interests. The rest of it is true though
>>289319672>The men who get nothing therefore won't have any stakes in the continued success of society eitherAnd we don't need them either. Elites understand this hence why they are agressively all in on AI.There'll be no reduction in quality of life because the wastage will be given digital soma to numb their minds.
>>289318131>childhood friend to romantic partner" idea is an almost uniquely MALE ideal.Lol wut? The most popular shoujo manga of the 00s was the one where the two main dudes was one her childhood friend(and adopted brother) and other her literal brother and the childhood friend won
>>289318671This is not much related to what I've said.Once again, read these: >>289299868Common "rules" given by women (often in a bitchy "girlboss" attitude or whatever) which are fake and make no sense.My point is, don't blame men for following (fake) "rules" women themselves make up and then getting frustrated when they realize it's all just self-contraddicting lies. Women clearly care about romance, so logically a man (not knowing any better) will assume that women's loud opinions on it have some value.That was my point.Further on, you can't blame men for looking for a romantic relationship either, as everyone does since it's one of the basic needs of a human.>inb4 "nooo, you just have not to mind and let it happen naturally, enjoying interpersonal bonds for what they are, just put yourself in display and wait"Unfortunately, this is a biased female perspective: most women do not realize how they're socially "spoiled" by people around them in terms of socialization compared to most males, and let alone the massive impact this has. Being a special little princess that everyone automatically interacts with more kindly, rather than one of the swamp rats expected to fight for the scraps of cheese.To most women dating feels like a buffet table filled with plenty different things, in which you just need a bit of patience in order to get that one specific exotic fruit that you were fancying before.To most men if feels more akin to a fight against starvation in a warzone where rations are not enough for everyone.In reality we're split 50-50, so clearly both mindsets are flawed, but it's quite clear that:>one of the two take a bigger toll on you and will obviously turn you more "goal-oriented" due to survival instict>another will lull you into a false sense of abundance and fairness, blinding you to the problems in this (at least until you wait too much and reality kicks in as time starts running out).Your mindset is easy to apply only if you're a woman.
>>289319695Rest of what is true? That entire argument is build on the assumptions build off from that one argument because the entire argument is 'durr men don't see women as people because they romantically pursue them, just look at their disgusting fantasies'.
>>289319401That's not even what I've said, though.Manu do as you say, yes.But what I am saying is that even "pure" romantic interest doesn't automatically overlap with a regular male "friendship" in most cases, and frankly that doesn't seem to me like anything women have any reason to be dramatic or offended about.
>>289319215NTA, but I heard most women were unhappy when media started portraying women in supervising/CEO positionns.
>>289319725>And we don't need them either.Well, the jury is still out on that. The CCP for instance seems to think that Chinese men and women should hook up and make kids at greater rates again, even though they're all in on AI too. We'll see how it shakes out, but I suspect that the Machine God won't be coming to deliver us from our toil, so warm bodies with an interest in the maintenance of society will still be needed at least mid-term.
>>289299868>stop hitting on your coworkers!My mother keeps asking me why I don't hit on my coworkers and get a gf from there. God she's annoying.
>>289320173Have you explained to her that it isn't socially acceptable and often expressly forbidden? Have you explained to her that the same is true of hitting on women in general, because we live in an anti-natalist society?
>>289318367What are you talking about? The ideal woman loves to spend time with their loved ones and make them feel good the best way they can.
>>289319647Cool story but okay>I am significantly older than you by the way.I doubt it, I'm more than 3 decades old. Unless you're a man in his 50s, I doubt you're 'significantly' older than me.
>>289299609They end up together, also go back to twitter
>>289320214I've but she seems to not mentally understand it's not socially acceptable for some reason so I just say she's already married/taken if she sees a new girl in my photos.
The biggest plague on modern men is virgins thinking you have to be monogamous before marriage.It's completely normal to date several girls at once, and you'll never get anywhere without doing it.It's this strategy of complete investment/obsession with a single girl that drives guys insane trying to force the square peg into the round hole on the first girl who'll give them any tiny scraps of attention.What you should actually be doing is pursuing multiple girls at once, and even after you start getting somewhere with some of them don't stop! Until you reach the point of actually "going steady" or moving in with someone with the intent of marriage keep up with pursuing new girls and maintaining current relationships. Then if it all falls apart you've still got a network of backups. And if you say you can't do that because you're ugly, then do the basic math on the chances being a beta orbiter will work out for you, and then imagine orbitting 50 girls at once instead of one, that's a 50x multiplier minimum, probably higher since the more you interact with women the better you get at it and the less desperate you are(because you've got multiple options and can drop a bitch) the more women like you. Finally, you may say this takes too much time and effort, which means you're approaching it entirely wrong. It's a lifestyle change like diet of exercise, you're going to have to maintain this for a long time, maybe the rest of your life, so you have to make this process natural. Talking to women all the time just has to be a thing you do, find activities you enjoy that can be combined with that. This is actually the secret of japanese apex fuckboys, they alchemically combined playing videogames and dating so they can hit on girls 12 hours a day every day. How else do you think those twinks are fucking 50 girls? Cause they're hanging out with 500 of them!
>>289320270/thread
>>289320314the only good advice itt
>>289318131I'm starting to think some of you just don't understand the concept of love
>>289320314Are you a projecting woman or a manwhore who doesn't realize it?
>>289318131You're gay and retardedAlso the girl on OP ends up dating her friend
>>289320633He's a humble fisherman, baiting for his prey
>>289299868I agree, people should stop talking to 3DPD at all
>>289320633>have sex incel>NOOOO NOT LIKE THAT!If your definition of being a manwhore is actually being successful with women, then you should either give up on relationships or become a manwhore.I really don't see your issue. This is it, the totally rational dating method proven to work by both example and logical deduction. It's also not some sort of new fad, people have been doing this for most of human history, it's what courtship actually is.
I'm curious about how people on this thread took Blue Flag, where not only was the whole series centered around a childhood friend who had been yearning for the MC for years and how the friendship was affected, and also had a character arc with a girl who honestly had a guy she was platonic friends with but everyone is convinced romance will get in the way of any of her friendships
>>289318764because women do right
>>289320597UNDERSTAND UNDERSTAND
>>289318178or if you have money
>>289318172>Though it does reveal the fact that women don't see 90% of men as men which is the real issueIt was really late in the thread but it should have just ended here. Truth is, any given woman will have a threshold of what they consider a man and not a man, being attractive will put you in the man category, otherwise you might as well be a worker bee for them. Of course, there are cultural norms to this and slight variations, but women are hivemind like creatures so most traits still apply, such as being tall and having a chiseled face, and with todays cultural norms, having tattoos, listening to rap/trap and having a expensive car count as well, along with many other traits.Point is, one of the reasons I watch anime is to not deal with realistic bullshit, it is very upsetting seeing a woman behave realistically in a anime because I had the impression our artform was supposed to be free of bullshit, it was supposed to have interesting stories and aesthetics with people behaving in ways that are not quite realistic, but are likeable and interesting, now we have to deal with anime with despicable female behavior because it's "grounded", I know women in real life are despicable creatures, I don't want to deal with that.>t. autist
>>289318213>That's not what I said. I said imagine if someone you aren't attracted toSo like everyone said - the issue is not that they're your friend and trying to become lovers it's that they aren't attracted to them. Fucking disingenuous bitches lmfao
>>289321066>expecting foids to be honestdid you think rapechad was fake?
People act like this situation is always the guy having the crush and the girl not wanting a relationship, but it can go the other way around. That happened to me in high school. But I've been on the other side of it too. It sucks in both cases, but that's just the way life goes.
Women have never had to engage in courtship who gives a fuck what they think about how men try and get into a relationship. They literally have the privilege of just sitting on their ass like Corporate HR and screening for candidates
>>289302021Yes, I'll judge a woman by the number of her past partners.So far I have had sex with 16 women but i'ts okay when I do it
>>289321157Yeah true, but in that case the guy would not have insecurities about his self value as a person just because the girl wants to be more then friends.If anything, the guy will feel validated by the fact that the girl likes him. And then although of course he will feel bad for her and sad about the possible death of the friendship, he surely wouldn't think>is there nothing in me to like as 'just' a friend?I guess that's what prompted the bewildered reaction and misunderstandings.
So according to women, men should not expect pursue a romantic relationship and expect a girl to come to them from 'natural' social interactions?
fuck off /r9k/
>>289321569No, this is literally all just women not wanting to say reality out loud which is that if you are unattractive to them the most you can aspire to be is their simp who does boyfriend things for them without receiving the benefits of being their boyfriendIf they think you're hot it does not matter how you approach them or try to get into the relationship
>>289299868These same women them make TikTok’s/Instagram posts crying about no man approaching them at a bar or club.
>>289321569According to women, they deserve attention only from the chaddest of psychopaths and lower men should fuck off and work for women's comfort without compensation.
very third world coded thread
>>289321157>People act like this situation is always the guy having the crush and the girl not wanting a relationshipThat's overwhelmingly how it is. It's almost always the men who are desperate to get anything going. Women can pick and choose and are almost never rejected unless they are shooting for a guy WAY out of their league.
>>289321569Yes, because if a man is not attractive enough to instantly make a woman want to be him he is not a human being and deserves to die alone and unloved while being viciously insulted for daring to want love.
>>289302021>do you want her judging you for your old girlfriends and hookups?Where do you think you are?
>>289321865>unless they are shooting for a guy WAY out of their league.Which is what they all do
>>289321865Also from my experience women tend to react worse to rejections. My sister cried for a month and stopped going out for almost a month when a guy rejected her. Men on the other hand take it much better. I don't know where this meme that only men seethe and rage when they're rejected come from.
>>289321865Rejecting fat women is my hobby, they exist as slampigs when I have no other choice and im horny enough to fuck a hole in the wall.
>>289322165Tell a woman "no thank you, but I am flattered" and suddenly women turn into a xbox COD lobby
>>289322165Also another instance of a friend of my sister planning to I quote 'Beat up a guy with her friends and report him for SH' just because he didn't want a serious relationship from him and was dating casually.
>>289320270What's the name of the anime?
>>289322674Puella Magi Madoka Magica
>>289322165Women react worse to rejections precisely because it happens so rarely. Not being rejected but rather being pursued are the normal baseline of the female experience so it's especially shocking and enraging to them when a man has no interest in them for once.
>>289322727Boooo
>>289322165Did people everywhere just forgot about "hell hath no fury like a woman scorned" somehow?
>>289300009Real girls don't have that level of self awareness.
>>289302021I don't think people here had past partners, anon.
>>289322165Its literally why every villainess anime starts with a broken engagement.
>>289299609I hate women so much it's unreal
>>289299868dude you're supposed to like her for her personality
>>289302021>>289303166yeah nigga>>289315996>noooooo you need to betabux a sluti would rather never interact with 3dpd than this fate
>>289315862what the fuck is a situationship
>>289325411Zoomer way of describing friends with benefits
>>289323860lmao
>>289321066I mean, yeah. They can not be attracted to someone because of personality as well by the way, and even because they just don't view someone sexually. Do you view your male friends sexually? If you do, you're almost certainly gay or spend too much time on here.
>>289326633>Do you view your male friends sexually? If you do, you're almost certainly gaybig if true
>>289326730If you look at your male best friend and think about his dick and how he is in bed, how good his foreplay game is, if he'd be a good romantic partner, you're a faggot.If you took "viewing sexually" to mean you think about their dick size and how many stacies he has sex with, you're a cuckold.
>>289326633>male friends non-argument again>"as a fellow man..."I was not even part of this chain of replies, but enough with this deflection already.The problem is being unable to even see someone of the opposite sex sexually if they don't belong to the top 20%. Or the same but with personality. That's insane no matter how you look at it.Any man, with variable but generally little effort, would be able to see (almost) any woman sexually if the personality was alright.I do accept that men and women are difficult, but you can't deny that women standards are beyond ridiculous if you stand by this.
>>289326633>Do you view your male friends sexually?I'm not attracted to men so no, are you saying you're a lesbian?
>>289318131>everything you've ever done has been under the guise of 'friendship'.insane to refer to a long personal relationship as a "guise" but i guess that's just the humanizing way women see men as people. It's like a virgin/whore complex but with acquaintance/rapist.
>>289321066>she MUST fall in love with the first guy she sees!
>>289326950>The problem is being unable to even see someone of the opposite sex sexually if they don't belong to the top 20%.This is an idea you invented in your head because you're a fucking loser. Go outside and you'll inevitably see ugly fucks, fat fucks, mongloids, Indians, etc., all with some form of girlfriend. Because 4 billion women can't all be fucking the same couple hundred million guys.You're a deranged loser who never grew up.
>>289327015>long time friend>first guy she seemsIronically enogh women are more likely to be whores and fuck a guy they met for the first time over having a relationship with a friend
>>289318971That’s called life, Anon.
>>289327033This. It doesn’t even have to be for financial reasons.
>>289326633Do you view your female friends sexually?
>>289300105My favorite thing was a woman who told me "women only like ntr because they portray the sex as good." As if women never come in hentai normally.
>>289326633but somehow I'm evil if I dont think every trans woman is attractive
>>289299609Yuri doesn't have this problem
>>289327481fuck off yuricuck
>>289327033>deflecting againI was just quoting the 90% that was up in the chain of replies while misremembering as 80%, which was seemingly implicitly accepted since the answerto it was the usual deflection on the male friend. And also in my case it was a hyperbole, that's why I said>if you stand by thisBut anyway as I said at the beginning, you're deflecting again: the contraddicting fact that for you it's such a commonplace scenario for women to find so many men unattractive (even if not 90%) to the point of likening it to a same sex friend in the gay friend deflection, while clearly the opposite is so alien to the average male. So you have to chose whether you stand with such an alien concept (it's commonplace for women to find so many men as unattractive as a same sex person) or with the factoid in the last reply (so many women go with ugly men), because the two are in open contraddiction.
>>289328332You look at the things that conform to your biases instead of going outside.You spend too much focused on stupid internet shit that isn't real because you want to feel sorry for yourself.Just kill yourself if you genuinely believe anything you're saying.
>>289327033>ugly fucks, fat fucks, mongloids, Indians, etc., Eh... most of those types don't care about what women thinks, Indians in particular, just make a ton of money and just arrange marriage some girl back home desperate to leave that shithole so not really giving credence to your argument buddy.Also his point was completely, you keep repeating the male friend argument again and again like a broken llm bot when it's addressed by most other anons here already. The original argument was attributing malice to men for pursuing friendships in outdoor pursuit of relationships, some kind of inverse of madonna whore complex where men's pursuit is reframed as inherently disgusting and malicious in intent. Meanwhile most men unless they're homophobic wouldn't be particularly bothered by finding out one of their friends is gay and is attracted to him. Some might take it as a compliment even(I'm so good looking that even other men find me attractive or something).
>>289327033>>289328869Also we've deflected quite a bit from the original argument, the argument wasn't whether women find most attractive, but that are man are giving these arbitrary set of rules and moving goalposts to the point this is the conclusion for the ideal situation for women >>289321569Which even women know is bs, I dare you find a romantasy work where the guy doesn't aggressively pursue the woman and was just a casual colleague.
>>289328491At this point I'm not sure if you're deflecting, baiting or have trouble focusing on the topic at hand. Regardless, I'm done here. I don't care enough to continue.
>>289318131CF stories might the the third most popular in femoid targeted romantasy stories. Only 'fake dating' slop and 'enemies to lovers' trope is more popular. Technically monster smut is more popular than all of it but it could be considered a variation of the 'enemies to lovers' trope.
>>289328869Nobody attributed malice to OP, just that she wasn't happy he might see her as only a romantic option rather than a friend.
>>289329727I'm not talking about OP girl.
So what's new anon, did you successfully wast your afternoon arguing again, and now that the heat is finally lowering it's getting a bit awkward?
>>289330682I actually spent my day watching anime it was fun
WE LIVE IN A SOCIETY
>>289329795What post are you actually talking about then?
>>289318325Fat bitches usually have a functioning womb or, failing that, at the very least a warm wet hole between their legs. That's all it takes to bestow the least bit of value upon them in the eyes of men and society as a whole. Fat autistic men though? Unless they strike it rich, they're just utterly worthless and expandable. The true dregs of humanity nobody cares for. But to the extent that they might provide some labor it's worth it to lie to them that they got a chance to make it so that they don't kill themselves (deny their labor) too early.
>>289299868Anon discovers that women lie literally all the time and chad can disregard any of that "advice"
>>289299868This gets easier to understand once you realize that women do not consider, at large, ANY man below 8/10 to be a human being. I say this without any shred of irony.
>>289330843https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3Nt0iAu3qw
>>289330736Based fun-enjoying anon.
>>289318068Nonsense, the bullying was covered up to protect the school district's reputation and the police department, partially because athletics are a big deal and their response was poor. But why bother, anytime Columbine is brought up someone's gonna cite the cash grab books and low effort podcasts from a decade+ after the fact trying to debunk the bullying aspect.
>>289299609>this is considered as something controversial among incels
I don't understand why women want to be liked as if their vaginas and boobs never existed I think it's very selfish and narcissistic to think like "if you like me because I have a vagina then you don't like the real me"
Embarrassing thread
>>289330682I read half of Perfect World yesterday and finished it today.Nice counter-point to this thread, but I also know it's a fantasy of a woman actually choosing a cripple
>>289315301>>289318131woman hands wrote these posts
Imagine you were a woman, would you want to be in a relationship with yourself as you are now?And don't try to dodge the question by saying you're not a tranny.
>>289318131>ok but what about [completely different scenario]no matter how much you try to pretend, a gay relationship and a straight relationship are not the same thing.
>>289318131The issue here is that you have no idea of the mentality of a man in such a situation.In the OP, the girl is describing the man as someone to be comfortable with. Someone that she can be "more like herself" around. She feels safe with him.For the man, it's exactly the opposite. When she's near him, he tenses up. His heart beats faster, the signals in his brain shoot faster, he stands up straighter and is more conscious of his every movement, action, and word. Everything about him becomes oriented around her perception. Instead of "being comfortable being himself", every part of him wants to be better than he is, for her.Worst of all, he has to balance all these feelings against the knowledge that she might not feel the same way. So his own feelings also become dangerous to him, threatening to push her away and ruin what they have. Frankly just existing in those circumstances requires courage that a lot of people don't have - A lot of guys instead just retreat and distance themselves, and instead of ever becoming friends, he would just be an acquaintance she knew for a bit, while he faded from her life.To get so close, to show all your foibles and embarrassments and little quirks and thoughts to someone, especially in spite of your own nervousness, and even over a lifetime, that's the essence of what love is. When you really love your romantic partner, they become your best friend by default.The girl in the op wants the comfort of a long time romance, but doesn't want to accept the vulnerability of such a relationship. In other words, the comfort itself is just a facade - She was ignorant of his feelings, and doesn't want to acknowledge them for the sake of her own shallow comfort. In doing so, she's being both greedy and cowardly, while also belittling the depth of his feelings for her as though his romantic love for her is somehow insincere, because it disrupts her own conception of what she desires from him.
>>289318240>You could also just imagine a really ugly chick Anon, if I found a woman whose presence I enjoyed and was attracted to me, she'd have to be either morbidly obese or completely disfigured for me to not like her back. The difference between the male and female standard for ugly is very, very big.
>>289302021>your old girlfriends and hookups?
>>289299868Get off the internetLiterally it’s just easy as being able to talk to them as a human, reading the room, and seeing how they respond when you call them attractive. If they take it well, then you can be more blunt about your intentions. It helps a lot if you actually have hobbies rather than just “mindlessly consuming video games and anime”, take care of your health and hygiene, and be someone they can feel comfortable around. Women are just as horny and autistic as men, so it shouldn’t be too hard to find someone you’ll click with
>>289333237Regardless, you understand the perspective right?
>>289333413>it shouldn’t be too hard to find someone you’ll click withAt the risk of turning this into /r9k/, it's actually kinda hard to find people who also aren't into large / public social gatherings. The internet has made the world a lot smaller, but also a lot wider.
>>289330682>So what's new anonWatch some seasonal shows for the first time in years.
>>289333440No, because the scenario is completely different. If you're some 500 pound beachball, then expecting romance from normal people *is* wrong, because unless you have an extremely rare disease, then you chose to be that way.
>>289322674Koori no Jyouheki
>>289333536But if like you said most women have higher standards than men, men shouldn't expect every woman they're friendly with to reciprocate their intentions either.
>>289333632The difference is that those "higher standards" are completely and utterly delusional and insane.
>>289333702How so? They can't force attraction anymore than you can for some hambeast.
>>289333042A bit unrelated, but as a horny teen I wished I had a female clone of myself so we could have sex 24/7.Your question is very hard to answer anyway, not because I can't imagine how I would feel if I did not have breakfast, but because men and women value fundamentally different things.If I were a woman with 100% woman mind I have no idea, but if I still had insight on how easy it is to please a man and how to pull the right strings to make him improve himself, I suppose I it would be worth a shot since I'm not ugly. That said, if I really had that secrit knowledge and girl-me was not ugly, I could try indeed the secret technique with someone better, if that's what you want to hear.I think it's fair to assume that women irl do believe they have secrit weapons of some sort regardless (it's true, after all), so the reasoning wuould still apply.However, there's two glaring flaws with this reasoning.First, while they do have secrit weapons, women have bad judgement ond what kind of men is actually "better" or with "better potential", as homicides prove, but let's assume).Also, they are very bad at using it it would seem, since bad men don't change with them, they just abuse them (so clearly you validate the wrong weapons or you cannot really use them).But the next fault I think is some exquisite piece of game theory: even assuming that women were perfect logicians with perfect use of the right secrit weapon (anon...), it wouldn't change that this would make us incur in some sort of prisoners' dilemma, in which by logically choosing the best choice for yourself you would actually make the worst global outcome for everyone (you included) happen.Which brings us to the main point here: today everyone has been arguing in a men vs women fashion, while the obvious truth is that the actual problem here is in the flawed game setup, which is to say our sworn enemy again, modern society!In short, we fell for the war of the sexes once again.
>>289333784>Sorry anon, we're just gonna have to let society collapse because women decided they don't want anything less than a 7 foot tall chiseled marble statue with a seven figure salary
>>289299609The fact that so many people think this isn't normal for teens is alarming.Even if you're a wizard, you should have a level of empathy.
>>289333816>Society collapseI mean the issue of society collapse seems to be more on a cabal of billionaires stealing money from everyone and trying to create Skynet to replace everyone. But a lot of guys would rather worship them then learn to talk to a girl and pretend they all want a 7 foot chad then ignore when a literal Spongebob cosplayer cheated on his wife with one of the richest pop stars in the world.
>>289333870I bet you're woman! Empathy is for faggots, bad things only happen to ME AND NONE OF IT IS EVER MY FUCKING FAULT YOU FUCKING WHORE!
>>289333870The thread lost track of the scene in the original post in way less than two digits, transforming in something completely different.Very few posts actually discuss the anime itself.
>>289333920Anon, I really hate to tell you this, but society needs people to function, and that means making more people. The ultimate purpose of sexual attraction is, no matter how much you might want to pretend, having children.
>>289299609Thanks for reminding me to put this on the backlog OP
>>289329490I'll be honest, I'm a sucker for enemies to lovers, especially when it's evil woman x hero
>>289333920I>I mean the issue of society collapse seems to be more on a cabal of billionairesCorrect until here, but money is fake and women care much more about what celebrities say, also the cabal is to blame for making life hell for many males, destroyng social cohesion, ruining both sexes (yes, both), fueling gender wars and destroying cultures and communities in order to turn the masses into distracted homogeneous servants.Knowing all of this does not make trying to fix the mess it caused in your life on your sole strenghts any easier though.
>>289302135>>289306898It's standard teen issues. She's a tomboy who got bullied hard, there's more to it but she started growing a hatred for being a girl, since all of her problems in this show only happen because she's female.She doesn't want to be trans, she just wants to be a tomboy and for everyone to accept that she likes vidya and other boyish shit, and doesn't want to engage in standard female hobbies.Now a boy who she considers one of her best friends just told her she liked her. With her self-confidence on the subject, she's now doubting that his friendship is "real" or if it's motivated by lust.For her to accept his feelings, she must first accept she's a girl, she's currently incapable of any relationship. Throughout the season she grew to accept her tomboyism, now she must take the next step.It's not a hard bar to clear, considering he's known her since forever.
>>289334192>the cabal is to blame for making life hell for many males, destroyng social cohesion, ruining both sexes (yes, both), fueling gender wars and destroying cultures and communities in order to turn the masses into distracted homogeneous servants.Huh, so I'm not crazy. Or at least, not alone in being crazy.
>>289301853Thats where you're wrong
>>289299609so do women just misunderstand what relationships are? like you should primarily be friends with your romantic partner. like that's the state you exist in for 90%+ of your time together. a good friend IS a good romantic partner.
>>289334271Nah, he's right. Short hair is for men.
>>289334051And the real issue with having kids is sit's too expensive to have kids not "these whores are too picky and aren't impressed at how I have no job and my hobby of being a consoomer"
>>289334279Okay but what if you don't want to be romantic?
>>289334287If you say no to this because the hair is too short, you might actually be gay
Isn't it hilarious this mangaka made not one but two controversial scenes in 2 different manga that blew up in Twitter?
>>289334364>brown>short hair>generally boyish demeanorTits aren't all there is to a woman, anon.
>>289334313>it's too expensive to have childrenWhich is why, of course, first world countries with higher wealth have *far* more children than the poor countries, right?
>>289314777This is not that phenomenon, see >>289334235But to answer that specifically:Women aren't vocal because they seek a man with confidence. Even if she had a thing for you, since you didn't commit.. yeah.If you don't commit, you don't like her. That's how friendzoning happens.
>>289334401No, because first world countries are where it's more expensive to have children. You have to properly house feed and clothe them, properly take care of them, their medical needs, their education, their hobbies, their integration into expensive society.Low-intelligence fuckheads who don't care about any of that are the biggest source of new births.
>>289300105This is not NTR unless you mean to tell me the pig was in a relationship with this woman.
>>289333222That's exactly the same as women. They feel exactly the same.The girl in the OP doesn't want romance at all, she has a big trauma with being a girl, unrelated to the boy, it's a completely different issue.
>>289299609100% platonic and hetero btw
>>289334454>You have to properly house feed and clothe them, properly take care of them, their medical needs, their education, their hobbies, their integration into expensive society.But people in the first world had children even during financial hardship until not too long ago. It's not "too expensive", it's "too bothersome", people shrimply do not want to have the responsibility of children, and women, being the ones who "choose" whether to have a kid, are the ultimate judges on that.
>>289334384Nothing wrong with a boyish demeanor
>>289326950Yet women say the same thing about men, that if they're not a top 20% looking woman, you won't bat an eye at them. Porn only aggravates this issue.Things aren't so different between genders, you just need to stop being an incel.
>>289327224I'm a man and that's the reason I like NTR, the women are always drawn like they're having the best orgasm of their life and it's really hot
>>289334313That's only part of the problem: you're looking at already established couples, and it's not only a matter of it being expensive, but I will not go there right now.The problem is that you're missing the huge, unprecedented masses of unsocializez youths (especially males) in first world countries who believe they are destined to die alone and will never feel the touch of a woman. That's pretty fucking worrying if you ask me.This is not a thing that happens overnight for no reason at all.
>>289334601>muh pornBuddy porn wont change the fact that I like my women with a healthy body, wide hips, nice tits, and a toned ass
>>289333870>>289333949The point is that women are saying that male friends falling in love with them is a -BETRAYAL-
>>289334637And women like men with healthy built bodies too. Do you qualify?
>>289334646If you spend 10 years as a friend, to suddenly pivot to confessing is absolutely retarded, and is how most people fuck up getting out of the friendzone.You need to work on getting that spark back.
>>289334719>learning to love someone after seeing their highs and their lows and learning all of their flaws is a bad thing>but one night stands are good3DPD is a mistake
>>289334780A men who does one night stands regularly would also likely reject her homely fat girl in his orbiter group if she suddenly confessed.It's different personalities, you can't conflate the entire gender to that behavior, incel.
>>289334601>Yet women say the same thing about men, that if they're not a top 20% looking woman, you won't bat an eye at them.Except you can objectively see all the attractive men with bottom tier women while the only time you'll see the reverse is if the guy is rich and famous or it's a boomer couple where the guy is clearly a former chad who let himself go and the wife is probably cheating anyway. Women are just full of shit.
>>289334689NTA but I do.
Impossible to talk about romance shows in /a/ without incels shitting it up with their own personal grievances. There's like a total of 5 posts in this that actually talk about the proper context of the OP.
>>289316982>It still kind of sucks losing a friend, especially if they reveal they never cared about you outside the idea of becoming romantic.I guess, but if it was a friendship built on something false to begin with, there's no reason to dwell on it.
>>289334689YesI am 180cm and have 10% bodyfat>>289334824>A men who does one night stands regularly would also likely reject her homely fat girl in his orbiter group if she suddenly confessed.Notice how you created a completely imaginary boogeyman when we are discussing things that happened in this thread
>>289334899>I am 180cm and have 10% bodyfatThen your problem is in your personality. I'm afraid it's a much harder problem to fix.
>>289334689I dropped from 225 to my current weight of 185I think I'm good.>>289334858Well I'm interested in the anime now. I brushed it off last season but having gone back to Seihantai, I do want to check it out eventually
>>289334841It's harder to happen because a bottom tier man is unlikely to have the confidence to push through. Confident women who want a meek man are just rarer, it's part of the gender norms.If you just want to stand there and wait for one, maybe you should start doing HRT.
>>289334993>Then your problem is in your personalityNo, it's not. My problem is that i don't like going outBut why are you moving the goalpost so hard?
>>289333564>ShoujoDon't know why people expected anything different
ok but is the show in the OP actually good
>>289335107They end up together OP is just making twitter threads here and the retarded 3dpd keep proving how they are subhuman again>>289335126This
Before this thread dies please give me some reccos for some more relationship trainwreck romance kino like Rumbling Hearts
>>289299609IDK who wrote this, but it's amusingly naive. Maybe cynicism is losing in the end
>>289335126Silly, you're suppposed to pick a side on hypotetical dating scenarios and argue about it, the OP is just an excuse.
>>289301855most incels don't have irl male friends
>>289335126Yes it's fantastic
>>289301855As as long as he says no homo before we suck each other off.
>>289335364much like most women don't know what actual friendship is like
>>289334719>>289318131Why are women so repulsed by the idea of a man they know and trust falling in love with them? The dude knows you and decided none of your flaws are deal breakers, and now he wants to spend his life with you. Why is that a bad thing? How is that, in any sense, a betrayal? Very strange to view a romantic relationship as less meaningful and intimate than a casual friendship.
>>289335583The same reason that fat girl you play games with might one day suddenly confess. Then you'll understand.
>>289335632Again, the issue then is not that they are your friend or not it's solely that you are not physically attractive.Which women do not say because it would expose them as the vain cunts that they are
>>289335632If i knew a fat girl that play games with me i would be flattered if she confessed
>>289335583Women sort guys into "want to fuck" and "would never fuck" within 5 seconds of meeting them, rational things like relationship compatibility and sustainability never once cross their minds You know how due to evolution women don't need to orgasm in order for conception to happen? Likewise evolution never gave women a reason to make good relationship choices because it was simply never relevant, they never got to choose, they're attracted to guys who made the choices for them
>>289335632I'm not fat though, neither is the guy in the OP anime
>>289335674why lie
>>289335730I'm not lying. Also this >>289335653
>>289335730>>289335632Unless the dudes is really our of her league, even being fat isn't going to stop her from getting a man, assuming she is sharing space with nerdy guys.
>>289335653>not physically attractivebased natural selection
>>289335709This has nothing to do with the OP.OP is about a girl with traumas due to the societal differences between genders.
>>289299609On one hand, relationships and emotions are fluid and can’t always be compartmentalized, which especially hurts when you lose that friend forever for not liking them back because it turns out the actual rule is “you’re not a creep if I find you attractive.” On the other hand, the best kind of girlfriend/wife is where she you can talk, joke, and do just about everything while she has also your back. The tomboy enthusiasts are actually really onto something.
I've had crushes before when I was in school but I've never actually been in love with someone other than 2D
>>289300105>post flopped trashNtr garbage will remain non-mainstream for the mentally ill cucks
>>289318131Talk about being dramatic, lol. The vast majority of men and women don't have close friendships to begin with. There is no mutal understanding and shared life experience like how it it between two dudes or ladies, so there's no chance for any depth in the "friendship" to begin with. No, you are not like a sister to any guy, stop thinking like that. You're being just as whiny of those guys who thought they had something with a girl they were crushing on from afar. Things were always shallow and there is no shot that's ever going to change.
>>289318131This analogy falls flat in the circumstances of anime where the boy and girl are typically friends from before they would have sexual thoughts at allaka the relationship did not start with the pretext of eventually getting into her pants
>>289318802No father figure is going to fix this mess. They're from a different era, the dynamics have changed.
>>289336544>aka the relationship did not start with the pretext of eventually getting into her pantsIt's very easy to say that when you are a man.Keep in mind you share a board with literal pedophiles that are also men who think women become sexual at very young ages.
>>289336642>Think about the elementary school kids who will grow up to be pedophiles ""grooming"" other 6 year olds at age 6no I dont think I will
>>289336639My dad briefly dated a woman who was a few years younger than him, and he had no fucking idea what was going on. The dynamics really have completely changed.
>>289334188Man of culture.
>>289319046>sure let's just continue going at each other's throats and slowly vanishYes, let's do that. Fuck this gay life.
>Ask a man why he isn't interested in a girlA: They aren't physically attractive>Ask a woman why they aren't interested in a manA: 50000 reasons other than the one that is the actual reason, they aren't physically attractiveWomen just don't want to admit that they are just as shitty and vain as the men they denigrate. That is all it is.
>>289336680The point was that the opposite gender DOESN'T know that.Those pedophiles know as much about the opposite gender's sexual experiences and awakenings as you do about women, because you're not a woman. And for a woman, they don't know that much about men's sexual development beyond the fact that they get their major growth spurt as a teenager and they start growing more hair. That's it.A girl who has a male best friend, whose had them since they were six, if that friend were to ask them out, get rejected, and then stop talking to them, that'd come across as "Oh, he was only ever around because he wanted to be with me". It sounds fucking insane but people here believe insane shit all the time, in this very thread no less, because human beings are emotional and not rational.
>>289336699Exactly, the people who think some older role model is going to fix everything are delusional.
>>289301855Friendships end all the time for a multitude of reasons. It's odd women freak out in this specific case of a man not wanting to waste his time with somone he realizes doesn't have a connection with.
>>289301855>bro what if you were friends with a raging faggot loli can believe this low iq post was made by a woman
>>289337016You're saying you're not even friends with yourself, anon? Sad.
>>289315996>They don't want to enter sex life as the inferior and the more ignorant oneI had that with my ex gf, I was a virgin and she`s a 4/10 at best, probably a 3/10, that had sex with a lot of guys during HS and you know what`s the first thing she said when she saw my d1ck for the 1st time? That it`s not thick enough LMAOTo make matters worse, that b1tch was cheating on me with several guys while dating me and some other sucker in another city, I wish that`s a joke, made-up.I had another foid tell me that she`s not the exception but the rule a few months later, that Tinder changed their dating habits, that they have adventures like that all the time now, fml.ISTG Allah, Odin, Zeus and any other deity that I`m never dating any w*man again, I`m gonna have sex with hookers and focus on my goals and dreams, wish me luck, bye.
>>289336726this is why you should never tell the truth or open up to a foid.
Bump.
>>289339075kill yourself bumpcunt
>>289315301>then they shoot up a schoolyou missed the part where the FBI grooms them into doing it
>>289299609Why do women feel entitled to male friendship?
>>289318829What the fuck are you going on about?
>>289339594WHO'S GOING TO BUY THINGS FOR THEM? OTHER WOMEN?
>>289339594Because it boosts a women's self-esteem to have all loads or jesters orbiting her.
>>289334603weird way of coping and not just admitting you're an israeli demoralisation propagandist subhuman
>>289335632Again, please stop bringing this analogy again and again, it's been done many times above and people have addressed many times at this point, most men would be flattered in that situation, feel kind of bad for rejecting the girl. But no man would consider it a 'betrayal' of his trust and most men would understand if that girl moved apart after the initial confession but women in that situation will invent reasons in her head to make out that person to be a bad person because the alternative is to consider herself 'shallow' because >>289335653
>>289335583Isn't your thinking backwards? You're the one thinking a friendship (not a romantic relationship where they also happen to be best friends, just a normal friendship) can't be intimate and cherished as is
>>289335126It's a nice seishun story for what it is
Too many weirdos with relationship issues taking it out on randos onlineInfathomably unhealthy thread
>>289341170No? He was asking why women think a romantic relationship is shallow compared to a casual friendship, not that people can't be friends and cherish the friendship. Imagine yourself as a guy, who had a male best friend since 6, whom you played games with, whom you hanged with and all and at 16 he suddenly comes out as a faggot and tells you he's in love with you. Most men's first thought isn't going to be 'Wow, he was only ever with me since 6 so that he can fuck my butt'. Unless they're homophobic af, they'll just reject and understand if the guy moved apart after the rejection. However women invent reasons in their head to label the man in the situation as a horrible person. So much for the 'empathetic' gender lmao.
>>289336642>women become sexual at very young agesWomen do become sexual at a very young age, it's one of the main points talked about in girl child raising books for fathers, to not be surprised if they caught their girl child masturbating at a very young age and much earlier than boys, often 6-8. With that context in mind, it's understandable why women think like >>289336833
>>289341229>Too many weirdosPerhaps you should go back.
>>289333413>Get off the internetThis is such a stupid advice my god.99% of the people are on the internet nowadays. Even your boomer grandma spends more time on FB than she does talking to her friends. I suppose you're most likely already married or already have a strong social circle but 'getting off the internet' most likely isolates you even more. I say this as a man who once had a privacy fag phase and deleted all his socials and then had to make an ig, linked in, discord, etc... when I realised that my self imposed 'grass touching' experience isn't improving social and career prospects, worsening it in fact. Even if you assume women are perfectly non shallow creatures who only care about muh personality, imagine yourself courting a woman that you only meet and talk like once a week during weekends. You're competing for this girl with a guy who had hours long conversation every night in insta/fb messenger.
>>289333413>Just talk to women broNobody was suggesting women would fall for you without you talking to them so I don't understand why you're giving out basic common sense as something deep, profound and insightful. That wasn't the argument you're replying to was.>Women are just as horny and autistic as men,Not sure about the autism part, but no, they're not as 'horny' as men.
