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Leave Rihan to me!
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Hunter x hunter sex with machi
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>>289309213
Everyone says this
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dump?
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This was a pretty terrible chapter even for Togashi’s low standards this arc. Will he ever recover ?
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>>289309394
Bro for real, the hype is back, Ben bros we are gonna be Gods
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>>289309394
I don't quite get why people think the chapter is bad
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>>289309213
you're just more than cringe at this point
kys or just die of embarrassment
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>>289309491
Just read the last two threads and you’ll get it . It’s a pretty bad chapter but I have hope for Togashi to redeem himself
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>>289309563
Hunter x hunter... no... sex with machi...?
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>>289309491
low reading compression. This chapter had like 3 sudden plot developments all crammed in one exchange, then the halkenburg arrow as well. It all was executed extremely well, but to enjoy it you have to fully understand what your reading, alot of anons struggle with that.
>>289309592
case and point.
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>>289309491
It's just one schizo anon don't take him seriously
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Do you think Chrollo violated the rules of Lovely Ghostwriter and causing the prophecy become a self-fulfilling prophecy?
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>>289309592
I think anons are judging the chapter too early, I want to see how it connects to the batch before criticizing it too much. I can see why some anons might take issue with certain things but those problems would be more "mid" for me and not too big of deal. Furykov did feel a little out of character though, offscreen shenanigans were also a little much, we really could have used a scene showing when&where Unma got to Furykov, something felt fake and out of nowhere about Furykovs explanation
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Re-reading the arc and that anon in the other thread was right: Without Balsack, Benjamin is just going to be an impulsive retard who's going to overextend himself.
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>>289309213
Based Machi sex haver
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>>289309787
There's so much fuckery going on in the boat arc that I don't really judge anything until I see the full picture.
Remember when people got all hyped about BonoSoka
Mind control, body swapping. backstabbing, lying, scheming, etc., it's all been on the table
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>>289309787
Togashi knows exactly what hes doing. The left hooks he threw out this chapter are exactly what make the SW so unpredictable and fun to read. He tends to start the batches really strong and these first 3 chapters are no exception.

>>289309859
exactly, people who are complaining about this chapter have no clue what they are even complaining about. Everything furykov did this chapter made perfect sense, but that will be more clear once we see more see more of uma. Togashi is extremely consistent, for example furykovs hatsu that was revealed this chapter was foreshadowed very strongly but you dont notice it on a first read. Same with kurapikas pronunciation, it was always there in japanese but such a little detail turned out to be so huge. Togashi really accounts for everything.
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>>289309787
Actually desiring artistry in the manga you're reading, ie the panels flowing well, story that is allowed to breathe, talking and action not overcrowding each other. Pacing and tempo, no weird compression and stilted sequences is apparently too far, too big an ask these days.

You gotta be on the TEAM and eat the slop. Else you're a fucking crazy person, unhinged.
Part of the reason I loved togashi is because he intuitively knew these things and put a lot of effort planning his shit to ensure it flowed well from page to page.
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>>289309956
>Actually desiring artistry in the manga you're reading, ie the panels flowing well, story that is allowed to breathe, talking and action not overcrowding each other. Pacing and tempo,
Embarrassing
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>>289309956
if this chapter really filtered you this hard then just stop reading. People enjoying something you didnt, dosent automatically mean they enjoy slop. If you struggle to recognize the artistry in the succession war why are you even reading it
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>>289309956
>story that is allowed to breathe
Its not that type of arc, way too many characters cramped into one place with high stakes and a lot on the line
If you want a breather go read the card game again
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>>289309956
They have to wear their enjoyment of slop like a badge. It’s pretty embarrassing.
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>>289309491
Cause people think there's too much irregularity and incoherence in Togashi's writing and pacing. The arguments are that Ben's attitude towards Furykov is weirdly merciful, the fact that he doesn't question him more about major informations that will completely change the Succession War events including Furykov's filiation with Beyond, Beyond's cursed children, Queen Unma's threat, the nature of the nen curse and the fact that he accepts his fate just like that all that in one chapter feels unnatural and rushed.
The fact that many things including the decipheration of the GSB's ability were done offscreen is another reason.
They're also unsatisfied with the fact that Ben's GSB's ability hasn't been revealed yet even tho there's enough evidence that it's some kind of post-mortem transcendental reincarnation ability.
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>>289309765
Machi's fortune says she will kill Hisoka
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>>289310114
>bu bu bu it’s Togashi so I have to eat it up
Thanks for giving s concise explanation as to why the chapter was a mess
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>>289310103
I hate this point we've reached where idiots just describe everything they dont like as slop. Thats never what the word meant. It gets distorted and misused by idiots just like every internet word that goes viral
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>>289310058
Its not one chapter. Its the entire arc. And apparently leveling critique is considered taboo.
no shit people like different things, I just explained why I liked hxh, a manga that is very far away from what we're getting right now.
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>>289310174
I already gave my reason. Quality of the actual product has plummeted. The artistry in making the story come to life, that's all gone.
Calling it slop makes sense given that there's an unthinking appreciation for the current chapters. Total unwillingness to discuss the current issues with the manga.

That's pretty much the goyslop mindset. Stop complaining, dig in you fucking pig.
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>>289310179
there's nothing wrong with critique, people critique togashi non stop in these threads and validly so. But idiots who read an entire arc they are incapable of engaging with and then proceeding to complain is so stupid. Why are you even here if you cant recognize the artistry of the SW? Are you so miserable that you read a manga you dont even understand just to hate on it for no reason. I guess you must be............

>no shit people like different things,
my point isnt just that people like different things you idiot. Its that disliking something doesn't automatically make it slop. Your too stupid to even fully understand the contents of a 4chan post no wonder you hate this arc
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>>289309177
Bisky after Rihan unleashed the predator
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Stop using the word "artistry". You sound like baboons.
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In the last chapter, Kurapika said that Nen capable of ruling a nation is created through a restriction that “puts all of one’s descendants at risk of death,” and that if more than one person survives, the royal family will be ended.

Then doesn’t announcing that Woble is not on the ship mean that the restriction has been not kept, or that it is now impossible to leave a single survivor? In other words, doesn’t that mean the Succession War is 99% certain to fail and the royal family will be ended?

It would not be surprising if King Nasubi had Oito executed as early as the next day. Why did Kurapika think revealing this was a good idea? It feels like Togashi did not consider how King Nasubi or other princes would react.
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>>289310226
>I already gave my reason. Quality of the actual product has plummeted. The artistry in making the story come to life, that's all gone.
Calling it slop makes sense given that there's an unthinking appreciation for the current chapters. Total unwillingness to discuss the current issues with the manga.


you being unable to recognize the quality of something does not make it slop idiot. You dont even use the words slop or goyslop properly
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>>289310114
>Furykov's filiation with Beyond, Beyond's cursed children, Queen Unma's threat, the nature of the nen curse and the fact that he accepts his fate just like that all that in one chapter feels unnatural and rushed.
Some of this can be handwaved by him knowing he has like 8 hours to live and its going to be a very shitty 8 hours. He accepts the idea that his mom betrayed the shit out of him which likely tips the scale in putting his faith in Furykov, but idk maybe his story was bogus, its grim being Benjamin right now. The way Togashi handled several princes GSBs feels kind of screwy though, like how Luzurus got that panel where narration straight up says everything that his GSB does - dunno why Benjamins GSB needed to be left a secret
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>MARTIAL LAW IN 1 SECOND
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>>289309954
>Everything furykov did this chapter made perfect sense
Why didn't he reveal anything about his link with Beyond, the nen curse, Unma's threat to Ben before ? Unma had given him a 48 hours ultimatum to use the poison. He then poisoned Ben in a suspiciously sneaky way. That doesn't make any sense.
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>>289310386
The restriction is only kept if the participant boards. Woble didn't board, so they aren't subject to it.

And if Kurapika keeps silent, which means that the child will still be targeted, or he comes clean, and the potential for princes to not bother wasting manpower and resources on an irrelevant target goes up. It's basically a move that Kurapika HAD to do to ensure the child's safety. The only one to worry about is the King and other princes who might think it's a lie, but the start of the arc had Kurapika assessing potential escape routes anyways.
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>>289310386
Basically, Kurapika said he thought everyone would believe him then leave Wovle alone but then that didn't happen and he admitted he made a mistake. Oito's plan was simply to bet for her life when it was inevitably discovered. Kurapika's timing was because he thought it would free him up to go after Sneedwich

But also, Woble is probably on the boat
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>>289310474
>dunno why Benjamins GSB needed to be left a secret
Probably cause it would have hinted that Ben was doomed and fated to die. If that hadn't been the case the GSB's ability wouldn't have been of any use before years and useless to the plot.
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>>289310745
>The restriction is only kept if the participant boards. Woble didn't board, so they aren't subject to it.
So you're saying princes could just decide to not participate the ritual and that doesn't affect the restriction at all?
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>>289310600
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>>289310785
>Kurapika said he thought everyone would believe him
If everyone believed him then it means the ritual's restriction has broken and Kakin royal family are fucked.
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>>289310827
As I understand it, yes. The more innocent ones were basically forced into it by their retarded mothers.
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What if Unma has nothing to do with anything and Benjamin has simply been led to believe she’s responsible? Or what if TSK-17 was stolen from her?
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>>289310884
If princes can choose not not participate the death game without weakening the ritual at all, then it will hardly work as a restriction.
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>>289310859
I personally agree with your interpretation of the ritual. But legally, Woble isn't part of their ritual because he wasn't there for the departure ceremony.

But realistically? Either the King or Queen Umna forced Woble on board. Once Woble took the seed germ, he was part of the ritual.

Unma had spies with Oito, there is no way they didn't notice the baby swap.
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>>289310943
Yeah, but then you're a disgrace to the family name and risk execution from the king. Basically peer pressure and fear for life to take part. Woble works because you can swap a baby and not really know the difference.
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>>289310971
>Woble isn't part of their ritual
The point how the ritual works if some of princes not participate the ritual at all. Shouldn't it not start at all, or at least severly weakened?
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>>289310994
>but then you're a disgrace to the family name and risk execution from the king
So Oito will be executed?
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>>289310386
>he thinks this entire succession war is run by the men not the mothers
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>>289311009
Yes, it shouldn't have even started if Woble wasn't on board. There wouldn't be 14 coffins if Woble wasn't on board.

Kurapika doesn't know about the coffins though.
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>>289311009
Why weaken? There's still participants and the ritual's only purpose is to choose one survivor, not that everybody has to participate.
>>289311027
It's a possibility that the king becomes displeased and wants her executed. We can't say for sure right now.
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>>289311062
There's only 14 coffins because the king THINKS it's Woble on board, not the other way around.
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Cummy's hairy kitten
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>>289311084
Remember to hold your Cammycoin
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>>289311063
>not that everybody has to participate.
Wow, so the Succession War is actually a very generous and merciful. Not all princes have to participate, they could just not come and the nen ritual will be absolutely fine with that. Hahaha.
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>>289311083
No way. Those coffins were conjured from the ritual. That whole room is a Greed Island nen room. Its some automatically programmed thing that made those coffins
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>>289311120
See:
>>289310994
Nobody gets to live an easy life for not taking part
>>289311132
It was literally made in advance before anybody boarded the ship, which is one of the qualifications to enter the contest
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Canon btw
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You guys should look at the condition where it states the contest is canceled when a prince dies BEFORE the ceremony. The ceremony has ended and the contest is still on it doesn’t matter if the original Woble is on the boat or not. Also the right of succession is NOT to be questioned even if the fake wins somehow.
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>>289311168
If not taking part will not weaken the ritual then Nasubi had no reason to execute them in the first place. It ironically proves that princes not participating will damage the nen.
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>>289309177
Yeah there is no way Rihan could do something in a room with both Hanzo and Bisky.
BUT
Isn't the guardian spirit beast technically alone?
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>>289311184
Turns out the original user of the skill was a perv and had added a condition where footage acquired by the ability can be rewinded if you successfully peep on a naked girl for a prolonged period
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>>289311237
Yes, some of maids are in room 1014 with nen beast but they can't stop Rihan. If Rihan deciphers Marayam's GSB's power then GSB will be eaten by predator.
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>>289311194
>You guys should look at the condition where it states the contest is canceled when a prince dies BEFORE the ceremony.
But this basically proves Woble was/is part of the ritual.
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>>289311261
Rihan can't even enter the room with the nen beast in it
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>>289311291
Rihan can observe the nen beast from distance and use Predator.
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>>289311303
Kek if Rihan awkwardly stood outside the door and autisticly observed the dragon he would be solidified as the GOAT
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>>289311198
Ask yourself this: If one prince chooses to drop out, then what happens to his "survival of the fittest' ideology for the tournament? Everybody can choose not take part and the "fittest king" pool is weakened, and that's exactly what he doesn't want. Ritual not being weakened =/= Nasubi having "no reason" to not do something in making sure people enter it.
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>>289311322
No, he can enter the room. If Rihan enters the gate of room 1013 then he can't enter the room where Marayam and Bisky are, but he'll enter an empty room where Marayam's nen beast is.
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>>289311337
>that's exactly what he doesn't want.
Then shouldn't Nasubi execute Oito as an example of what will happen if someone breaks the rule of the king?
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>>289311265
How do you prove a transgender prince baby isn’t affected by transgender nen in the world of hxh?
You can’t. You can’t even prove Oito’s account is the truth or not. For all intent and purposes the male Woble is the real Woble and is still considered as such via the flame.
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>>289309491
It just shows a growing problem with people in this arc having knowledge of shit that hasn’t been explained yet or stuff they shouldn’t have figured out on their own.
Like Halkenburg quickly mastering his nen, Hringh suspecting the spiders behind Lynch’s death, Kurapika explaining Kakin’s nen ritual and deducing fake Woble just from word pronunciations.
Nearly everyone is genius level and its taking out all the enjoyment of seeing things develop normally.
I get it though, this arc has grew into one of the biggest in HxH with all the characters and subplots so if things did happen normally it would probably be 2x-3x as long.
But it fucking sucks as a reader when you have to roll your eyes at Benjamin correctly guessing Camilla’s nen ability while also acting on martial law with perfect knowledge of his GSB’s ability.
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>>289311372
You can prove it by seeing fake Woble doesn't have a GSB
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>>289309177
Leave Killua to me!
*rides his cock and French kisses him*
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>>289311363
Like I said, there is the chance Nasubi does want to execute Oito for not fully entering the contest, but we will have to see. It isn't definite, since I was talking about making sure they actually entered, but the contest is already under way now.
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>BEYOND STRONG NEN
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>>289309177
I wanna put a bun in her oven.
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>>289311405
>doesn't have a GSB
>just has sinister nen out of nowhere that nobody else can see for no reason
Hmmmmm. I suppose either Woble is a master level nen user or maybe, just maybe…he does have a nen beast? If it was Beyond’s curse he would have died by now. And if it was the selection nen Woble would have already followed Kacho.
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>>289311451
>there is the chance Nasubi does want to execute Oito for not fully entering the contest
A chance which Kurapika isn't concerning, which means Togashi didn't think about it.
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>>289311492
You're acting like martial law wasn't just announced and that Nasubi can even do what he wants freely. The more pressing concern is the other princes who are out for blood and since martial law is announced, the danger just spiked.
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>>289311472
This is just reaching, there are a billion things that could be happening (including that being a nen beast) but all logic and evidence suggest fake Woble doesn't have a nen beast. It would be weird for Togashi to show us Woble has no nen beast, give us the baby swap reveal, then say Wovle did actually have a nen beast :^)
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Think
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>>289311552
Personally I think female Woble was sacrificed to become a nen beast for male Woble and hid inside him to protect them. It’s already weird enough they didn’t just send an official to disqualify the baby. Nobody is taking Kurapika seriously when he says Woble doesn’t count for the succession.
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Togashi has to do a lot to make up for this chapter
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>>289311431
Zepile...
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>Think, anon, think!
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>>289311712
>Togashi has to do a lot to make up for this chapter
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>>289309354
https://imgur.com/a/hunter-x-hunter-chapter-413-pniCe3w
someone that is not a lazy bum, dump it
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>>289311704
That's retarded. None of that makes any sense. Please shut the fuck up forever. You're severely lowering the IQ of this thread.
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>>289311733
>IF WOBLE IS NO LONGER QUALIFIED
>...
>THEN WHY DID NONE OF THE ASSASSINS STOP TARGETING HIM?
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>Beyond prepared a large number of curse sacrifices to thin the herd in order for his child to acquire the throne.
>at least 10+ curse sacrifices are among the cast of characters we know and are likely Royal Guards.
>Longhi is aware of some but not all of her half-siblings
>Furykov is one example of Queen Unma's meddling seeing how she controls the Royal soldiers
The plot thickens
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>>289311842
Because Kurapika is literally going "Just trust me, bro" with no proof
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>>289311842
Because they think Kurapika and Oito are hiding the real Woble somewhere onboard the Black Whale.
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>>289311905
He had Sakata and Babymina confirm that fake Woble is a boy, speedy.
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>>289311756
>This is my point of view and I will continue to throw it around because i’m right.
>Y-you can’t prove that!
>You are reaching! That is not how *unintelligible schizo babble*
You are here:
>NOOOOOOOO THAT’S RETARDED STOP MAKING MY THEORY SOUND WRONG

Fake Woble counts
The succession is still on
And Woble (male) has a nen beast deal with it.
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>>289311931
Then they can still conclude that the real one is hiding somewhere, like this guy said >>289311908
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>>289311944
>HEADCANON HEADCANON HEADCANON
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Theory: Since wovle and woble partook in different parts of the initiation ritual, maybe they developed some kind of cooperative GSP, as in, both babies need to be together for the ability to manifest in its entirety.
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>>289311986
*GSB
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>>289311905
THAT'S NOT TRUE RIHAN
MANY PRINCES SENT THEIR ROYAL PENIS INSPECTORS TO FAKE WOBLE

THINK
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>>289311639
>So he definitely said he fired an arrow at Benjamin. Whether he was being metaphorical while firing a literal arrow at someone else, I don't know.
What if the target was Furykov, so that Benjamin is actually being played here?
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>>289312020
Halk and his people wouldn't know about Beyond's curse, so it has to be the real Furykov.
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So now that Halk's body is entombed, does that mean Halkenburg is going to be permanently stuck in other people's bodies until his soul somehow dies?
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>>289311704
Don't listen to that jerk anon, that guy isn't the one you were talking to

I think your theory is nice and plausible.
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>>289312037
>Halk and his people wouldn't know about Beyond's curse
How do we know that for sure?
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>>289312050
Why would they know about that?
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>>289312050
None of Halk's men could use nen until his GSB awakened all of them.
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I can only imagine the orgy Beyond had every time another prince was born. How he led one of the mothers of the princes into it must have been quite the story.
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DISPATCH RIHAN
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>>289311396
the only good reply,
Yeah, its pretty funny that in your average shounen, you must tolerate the retardation of the mc and friends, but in HxH, everyone being a genius is a problem
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>>289312063
Couldn't they have contacted Longhi or any other of the cursed children in the meantime?
Kurapika also didn't know about the curse just a few chapters ago.
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What killed the hype? Was it chapter 413?
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>>289312132
shaddap
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>>289312132
Bro I'm hyped too, Ben finally enacting martial law got my blood PUMPING
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>>289309670
built for loving
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Benjamin's relatively muted reaction to the revelation about Beyond and his curses might be because he already heard about it from another of the sacrifices: Babimyna.
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>>289312147
I will be a skeleton before martial law finally happens never mind the boat trip.
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>>289311396
Those rushed conclusions come surely from how painful each chapter is for Togashi to draw.
His stupid ego as an artist is compromising the pacing and writing of his manga.
Had Togashi gotten another artist to draw this arc, we would've been this far back in 2017.
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>>289310474
>like how Luzurus got that panel where narration straight up says everything that his GSB does - dunno why Benjamins GSB needed to be left a secret
It's sort of dawning on me that all the ones we got a dry direct explanation on without a demonstration aren't going to matter much, I mean look at which princes they're attached to.
>Cammy, who is too ignorant to ever try to figure out how her beast works and is also about to lose.
>Luzurus, who has been targeted by three separate parties with a traitorous underboss in his mafia to fall back to in the event of martial law.
>and Tubeppa, a nenless bum with no hunter guards who's only move so far is an alliance with Kurapika through a character more important than herself.
These guys are all losers, nobody expects any of them to win. All of the important princes have made an effort to understand or use their beasts. The ones that haven't (Ben and Tserri) are doing something else important and their beast's absence is noticed and considered. The former three are sitting around waiting to die so Togashi gave a quick rundown on each of them since none of them will think introspectively about how to use their GSB to win. Their beasts might end up mattering a little in the end but those characters are unimportant secondaries who are about to get knocked off the board.

The point is all the major players have had to figure out their beasts. Luzurus is fodder so he gets a quick rundown the way Sale-Sale and Momoze got theirs.
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>>289312043
Unless he can materialize a body for himself or something, he's fucked.
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>>289312020
He literally said this chapter that he didn't want to talk to Benjamin face to face because it would impossible for him to perfectly impersonate Balsamilco, Benjamin would notice something is off. So his plan wasn't to take over anyone on Ben's side and trick him.
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>>289312105
Pure unadulterated charisma
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I'll fully admit this is on me being a complete moron, but I only just realized reading through the last thread that izunavi (tyson bodyguard) is the guy we met in kurapika's yorknew flashback
did we even get his name back then or was this just togashi saying "kurapika knows this guy, go re-read to remember where hes from if you don't"
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>>289312326
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What would happen if Cammy had her own Balsa?
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>>289312020
Halk talked to his mom so he would know about the plan.
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>>289312372
>''Cammy will need you to shup up from now on your plans are stupid and way too complicated now bring me my tea''
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>>289312326
Before Kurapika meets Oito, we get a text blurb of who his team is. Izunavi's name is revealed there. I believe the 99 anime gave him a different name way back when, but that's clearly not canon.
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>>289311712
This much?
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>>289311396
True
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>>289312326
>go re-read
anon, there was literally a flashback of Kurapika training with Izunavi back in chapter 361
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>>289312326
No, Togashi didn't name him until the page Kurapika forms a team to board the Black Whale with, and he's described as "Izunavi, Kurapika's Mentor (sort of...)".

>>289312372
She has Fukataki and Sarahell, she just doesn't listen to them.
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>>289312209
>Cammy, who is too ignorant to ever try to figure out how her beast works and is also about to lose.
We had no idea that Benjamin had deciphered his GSB's ability with Furykov's ability until chapter 413. Can't imagine that Camilla who has a private milicia full of nen users including a nen exorcist which is very rare type hasn't figured or at least tried to learn something about her GSB's ability.
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>>289312479
She straight up says she doesn't need it like a retard, she is getting a fucking massage as Benjamin is coming at her with a shotgun and declaring martial law.
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>>289312429
I like to think he did it because the anime wrongly took liberties in naming him just because Togashi didn't at the time
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>>289312215
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>>289312372
>THINK CAMMY THINK, WHY WOULD ANYONE DIE JUST BECAUSE YOU WANT THEM TO?
>no fuck you they dIe
>HEH...
>IF YOU FEED HER THE RIGHT INFORMATION SHE COMPLETELY DISREGARDS IT, SHE WILL BE A TERRIBLE RULER, WHY IS ONE OF HER HAVE NOTS FOLLOWING ME AROUND
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>>289312132
We're having a Calm before The STORM week, everything's popping off next chappy
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>>289312527
Kawaii robotburg incoming
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>>289312507
>She straight up says she doesn't need it
Doesn't mean she won't change her mind
GSB act on their own anyways.
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Who's gonna completely hijack the succession war, Chadrollo or Lesborena?
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>>289312580
>>289312527

Ging fears this
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>>289312209
I remember thinking the GSBs would all have unique abilities with diversity among the different nen categories but then as the years go on its coercive manipulation coercive manipulation coercive manipulation etc. I guess all the bum princes get coercive manipulation but the based princes get something else, or every GSB has coercive manipulation built-in and then some other more unique ability idk
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>>289312645
chrollo if he actually manages to steal the artifacts, nasubi could be up to something too
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>>289312403
Top: after feminism
Bottom: before feminism
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>>289312651
he looks under his bed at night for her
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>>289312651
She uses On.
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>>289312673
Would be kino... after Tyson gets packed
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>>289311396
>Halkenburg quickly mastering his nen
He spent three days with 14 guards and a whiteboard going over theories before testing it.
>Hringh suspecting the spiders behind Lynch’s death
You only think that because it's true. It was Zakuro who suggested it could've been a Spider who killed her, just to confirm with Hinrigh that they would avenge her even if it meant going to war with Cha-R. What is so crazy about that? They didn't say a Spider disguised themselves as Hisoka, killed Lynch and then disguised themselves as her. They did say each of those things, but they didn't settle on a single theory. And they didn't figure out that Hisoka is actually on Tier 1, Hinrigh figured they'd do this to Uno Reverse their "keep Hisoka away from the Spiders" plan on them.
>Kurapika explaining Kakin’s nen ritual
That's just his theory, but Nen is stronger if the ability is familiar (re: referential). If someone conjures three little pigs and then says, "I have a transformation as well, it's-" you already know what it is. He turns into a big bad wolf. Why would he pick anything else? That would require building new neural pathways to familiarize yourself with the association, but three little pigs and the big bad wolf is something already in your head.
>deducing fake Woble just from word pronunciations
It was a theory of Bill's after 10 days of living with them so they tested it using Kurapika's lie detection.
>Nearly everyone is genius level
That has ALWAYS been a complaint people have had with Hunter x Hunter. Actually, every complaint people have had for this arc, or this chapter, is identical to complaints people had in the first 340 chapters. Literally nothing has changed. Go reread the series right now and tell me I'm wrong. Go reread the 5 chapters of Zepile's auction shenanigans followed by Killua deducing Kurapika is the chain user and tell me, "Nope, everything fine here!"
>Benjamin correctly guessing Camilla’s nen ability
He saw it.
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>>289311112
I never sold
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>>289312403
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>>289312716
Holy shit Milluki I kneel
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>Furikov 4d chess
>Halk firing an arrow to one of his siblings
>Babymania given the order to round up the people on the room
>Ben going for Cami and Terror
>Zhangs SP finally activating
This was a great chapter, wtf is everyone on about?
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>>289313168
Crazy how Togashi just mixed Frieza and Cell from DBZ to create Meruem.
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>>289313168
No you see because the verisimilitude of each characters ephemeral property is incongruous with the ontological essential actions, tge chapter is bad
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>>289313168
Ignore the autist. We're getting the martial law chapters we always wanted after the blue ball in 410. Enjoy the ride.
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>>289312176
Is this a one piece reference o_o
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Togashi has fallen.
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Are there any human nen-users who can kill Meruem without self-sacrificial nonsense?
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>>289313168
It's just one schizo
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>>289313413
End game Zushi
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>>289313413
Halkenburg
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>>289313234
Is there any notable BUU influence in any character? Because if not, I can see some BUU variant being the main “monster” in the DC
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>>289313413
No. Probably not.
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>>289313170
Pretty sure Togashi forgot he still has to reveal the Stand user
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>>289313168
For the love of god, I’m not sure if you’re talking about me but I never said the chapter is bad. In fact, I said the Content and basic outline of the chapter is great. I just thought the pacing and presentations could’ve been much better than what we got.
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meds now
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>>289313413
Milluki
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>>289313457
Togashi’s forgotten a lot of stuff and then just brings it up when he remembers, like Furykov being a beyond baby or Benjamin’s GSB ability. I think he might be losing his touch since chapter 358 (the start of the succession war)
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>>289311396
Only in this thread do I see people finding these supposed "plot problems," and I've never seen anyone bring them up before. The reason is obvious, you're a retarded speedy samefag spamming the same points. I guess warm piss being on break makes the spam more obvious.
>Halkenburg quickly mastering Nen
Because of his talent and resolve? A concept never before seen in HxH before, right? Also offspring of talented nen users tend to be talented themselves. More at 11.
>Hinrigh suspecting the Spiders behind Lynch's death
Read chapter 406 more slowly next time. Zakuro and Hinrigh have known Lynch for a long time and immediately noticed Bono-as-Lynch acting out of character. The only group they know searching for Hisoka is the Phantom Troupe. They haven't even confirmed it's the Troupe yet, it's just an assumption.
>Kurapika explaining Kakin's Nen ritual
Kurapika knows a ton about vows and limitations, so it's not hard for him to figure it out. Any knowledgeable nen user could. Chrollo himself figured out Kakin's treasures work through Nen vows power the succession war and the country's prosperity.
>Deducing the fake Woble just from word pronunciations
Kurapika tracked down a huge number of the kurta eyes. If anyone can solve detective-style mysteries, it's him. As Woble's guard, he's always on alert. He didn't instantly figure out the fake Woble either, his suspicions and ability led him there. Without his ability, it would've stayed a hunch.
>Nearly everyone is genius level
Yeah, no shit. In a war where you can't brute-force everything and have to rely on intelligence, of course it's filled with smart people. Hand-picked personal guards, Association Hunters, Spiders , and top mafia members are going to be competent, shocker. It's not like random nen users are solving everything either. Even Zakuro was completely confused about Lynch's death until the underboss explained it.
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>Pariston can't be Gon's mom! That's too wacky of a twist!

Still feeling like that now?
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>>289313413
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>>289313413
Halkenburg and Cammy.
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>>289313543
Togashi’s seems to be in love with twists that go “this person is actually this person” “this person isn’t actually this person” and the like, so Pariston Sheila is stronger than ever
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>>289313413
He doesn't seem like he would be immune to counter type abilities or curses.
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>>289313543
Anon your sentence is like a random string of words
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>>289313413
Netero flying a plane with hundreds of rose nukes
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>>289312132
Damn getting to No 1 on the billboard charts and beating wan piss is called "killed the hype" now?
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>>289313517
Halk's not even using his own ability but his GSB's. And he doesn't even need his own aura cause the ability takes it from his followers. I don't wanna totally discount his capabilities but it kinda seems like the only part of his ability that requires any skill is aiming the damn thing.
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Total clown supremacy btw
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>>289313267
>We're getting the martial law chapters we always wanted
To be honest this feels too good to be true, feels like the next chapter is going to be POV from the different princes and ending with "10 minutes before martial law".
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>>289313561
The cat is not invincible, it cannot be. It might be strong and has the element of surprise, but you have to be able to escape as a restriction for it to be so strong
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>>289313720
I’d rather that than another nen class or card game
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>>289313645
What's not clear? Pariston is Gon's mother. Ging and Parison had sex, and Pariston gave birth to Gon. It's a well-known theory.
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>>289312671
>but then as the years go on its coercive manipulation coercive manipulation coercive manipulation
As expected from the leading country with the most rape festivals! Guardian Spirit Beasts? More like Guardian Rape Beasts.
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>>289313733
The Nen class is really interesting I like those chapters.
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>>289313168
One Piece is on break. Go figure.
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>>289313748
True, I like annd rate every storyline in this arc. But I like some more than others. Like, Tserris nen learning, Chrollo’s treasure scheme, and troupe vs hei-ly are probably my top 3 storylines in terms of personal interest right now
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why did halkenburg tie himself to a chair? forgot
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Thinking about it, Silent Majority HAS to be one of two people: Shimanu or Belerainte. Of the two Shimanu is much more interesting. Can you imagine Belerainte being revealed? It would be kind of lame.
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>>289313413
No
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>>289313815
He's going to soul swap with someone, whoever he swaps with is going to end up restrained.
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>>289313823
Could also be a group ability, the word "majority" kind of implies that.
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>>289313815
There's a non-zero chance he pulls himself in the arrow gacha again
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>>289313832
He can’t decide which of him and his men get soul swapped though. He soul swapped with balsamico through bad luck, not out of choice.
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>>289313833
There is an internal monologue from the person doing it.
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>>289313168
I have one flaw with the chapter and it's Benjamin learning about his beast's ability offscreen, so the conversation about how Furikov clearly must have poisoned him to make sure he'd be able to become a god after dying came across as really deranged. I can forgive it though, it sounds like Furikov's own ability can be used to decipher other abilities so it's not like it came out of nowhere, both Benjamin and Furikov know what it does so they can talk casually about it, it's just weird for the reader.
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>>289309491
it's literally one or two guys spamming the same shit every thread. You know it because the post the same shit and around the same times every single day
>>289313517
why are u guys engaging with this schizo. It's clear he doesn't even read the manga
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>>289313861
True; but it isn’t the first time Togahsi has done that this arc, maybe I remember wrong. I think we’ll get some sort of flashback adressing Unma-Benjamin-Furykov-Benjamin child or something, maybe
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>because kurapica called in sick I will be your nen teacher for the day
How would you react?
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Cammy's bvll...
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Since 3 princes are dead, how come none of the curse offering guards have randomly died from the curse being reversed onto them?
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>>289313861
The ability thing is fine. I still don’t get how Benjamin reacted so casually to the beyond baby thing.
If Benjamin did know about the beyond baby stuff beforehand, why hasn’t he even attempted to do anything about it or bring it up, especially considering he’d be at risk of a random curse death.
If he didn’t know, why is he reacting so causally. The guy who is supposed to lead kakins expedition supposedly wants him assassinated, whose to say beyond won’t just murder Benjamin’s child even if Benjamin wins. Beyond should be one of Benjamin’s targets, and If he isn’t, I’ll be shocked.
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Besides Benjamin, who is literally on a timer, is there a more guaranteed to die prince than Cammy?
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>>289313946
Tserriendich won’t win. Too evil. Togashi is more of a bittersweet leaning positive person. Tserriendich winning would be the bad ending
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>>289313946
Fugetsu's curse is still unexplained and her power is still waning
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>>289313916
Not all curses work the same.
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>phantom troops are a bunch of larpers
>zodiacs are also a bunch of larpers
The parallels are big, skirmish when?
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>>289313983
Mizaistorm already pussied out. The troupe will be handled by Queen Morena
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>>289313916
They’ll just redirect it to another prince or take their own lives to accompany their former boss as is their custom.
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How come half of Tser's best friends can't tell he's a serial killer? Are they stupid?
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>>289313992
He wasn't always a serial killer.
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>Think, cammy, think!
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>>289313983
what are you talking about? there is a reason Benjamin doesn't want to fight the hunters, they are as strong as a nation's entire military
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>>289309787
>Furykov did feel a little out of character though
You expected him to act smug and cackle like a retard while speaking directly to prince benjamin?
Sounds like you never even understood his charcter then.
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>>289313916
[Spoiler]the targets for the curses are the queens[/Spoiler]
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>>289314036
No they aren't. The hunter association is just an influential political entity, and making an enemy out of them is a bad idea for the nation.
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>>289313972
Fugetsu dying without accomplishing anything after her big sister comes back as her guardian angel would be a little anticlimactic and piss on the good moment where Kacho saves her. Believe in Foo-Foo
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What is her nen ability?
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>>289314107
>tight wet pussy: instantly manipulates any man that sleeps with her for 18 years
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>>289314107
Dominant genes
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Crackpot theory: Unma and Duazul are the same person, they're both alter egos that coexist within one body.
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>>289314107
The Nose Knows.
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Getting vored by Cammy
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>>289312671
well, these are beasts decided for princes that are supposed to lead a nation
would be a bit weird to receive a nen ass rocket that allow you to fly or something
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>>289313893
AIEEE Pitou-sama don't eat me
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>>289314107
she's guaranteed to pop out a nen genius as long as she cucks nasubi
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>>289314046
I hope Furykov is under the influence just to spite you
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>>289314107
>Beyond fucked this
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Hunter x hunter is over lol
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>Unma
>Un = one = 1st queen

HOLY SH
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>>289313917
Benjamin doesn't have the time to even worry about anything related to Beyond. He needs to kill all the princes in just a few hours.
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>>289313736
But Pariston said Ging never paid attention to him before
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>>289314243
Hunter x hunter is... sex with machi?
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>>289314265
Ging also said the two of them had a complicated relationship, and he has a pet name for Pariston that nobody else uses. There's something going on there.
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>>289314258
anon...
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>>289312967
>That has ALWAYS been a complaint people have had with Hunter x Hunter.
Not him but I had that complaint while reading it for the first time too, and on rereads I concluded that everyone we see is genius-level specifically because only genius-level characters are the ones who manage to drive the plot and survive.

We do see average guys and normal civilians as well, but average characters don't tend to last long and normal civvies are often fodder. Even if you look at the Succession War, Sale-Sale is fodder to show Rihan's ability, he has no knowledge of Nen or willingness to learn it to survive. And so he meets his end rather quickly. Contrast this with Oito, who is so dedicated to survival that she kept an open mind, is shrewd, crafty, learned Nen, and even pulled the wool over Kurapika for weeks to ensure that she could bypass lie detectors. She's not an instant genius, but her intelligence shows itself very prominently, and her survival demonstrates that.

I enjoyed the series more once I understood this.
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>>289314228
>influence
of drugs?
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>>289314186
Sloppy kisses with Pitou
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>>289312426
Who is this? The Haiku guy? I'm so confused.
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>>289314258
Wait till you find out about the names of the other queens
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i love men
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>>289314258
Uno
Dos
Tres
Cuatro
Cinco
Seis
Siete
Ocho
We have known this for years my friend
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>>289314313
It's the guy who taught Kurapika nen, speedy.
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>>289314107
British genes
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>>289314301
>he has a pet name for Pariston that nobody else uses
?
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>>289314107
So did she shag Beyond to create Tse? Based on how she's betting everything on Halkenburg she didn't seem to like the deal very much.
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>>289314326
It's in Portuguese, not Spanish, but yeah.
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>Oito
>Oito = eight = 8st queen

AY CARAMB
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>>289314354
He calls him Paris.
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>>289314357
It's based on romance numbers in general, not Portuguese in particular.
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>>289314356
She could just be trying to get Halk and Ben to take each other out so Tse doesn't have any competition.
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>>289314326
>>289314357
It's a mix of multiple languages
Mostly romance, but Sevanti in particular is clearly from English
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>>289314396
That panel where she starts sweating after Furykov breaks her arm was hot
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>>289314307
It's almost always the reverse in every other series, where the main characters are the smartest people and everyone else is dumb as bricks.
At least HxH tells its story in a way that gives even the side characters enough agency. Just look at how Kurapika figured out the fake Woble, he needed Bill to point out the inconsistency before he could connect the missing dots. I don't think Kurapika would've figured it out otherwise.
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cummy sweat
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how many pelvises did Unma break at the carnival?
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>>289314320
We know, Benjamin
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>>289314444
holy quads
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>>289314427
The ensemble casting is part of why I like the series so much, it's not just "the main character show featuring the villains, with maybe some side battles too". Everyone has the potential to shine, prove themselves, and become a fan-favorite. Bill himself was just one of Beyond's temp hunters hired for extra muscle to protect Woble, but as the guards in 1014 thinned out he demonstrated he's not just talk and he's more than just a background character. I wound up really liking him as a character.
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>>289314420
He didn't break her arm, he put her in handcuffs. She was sweating because she knew the jig was up and she was trapped no matter what she did.
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Now just imagine how STRONG the most retarded hxh character is, to have made it to the top in an environment where only the smart survive
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>>289314582
Hope we see this little guy in a fight
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>>289314618
We won't see much because he's the speed blitz king
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>>289314572
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Which Princes participated in the carnivals?

>1st Prince Benjamin
Yes.
>2nd Prince Cammillia
Yes. Her involvement with the Have-Nots is probably carnival related somehow.
>3rd Prince Zhang-Lei
Yes. When he talks about ruling in the dark and the light he's probably referring to the carnivals.
>4th Prince Tse
No, but only because he as standards. He would find fucking and killing country bumpkins to be too crass and low class. His rejection of the carnivals is why Halkenburg and Tubeppa mistakenly think he's a good guy.
>5th Prince Tubeppa
No, and the carnivals are why she's so determined to kill her older siblings (missus Tse). She'll probably reveal their existence to Kurapika at some point, assuming she survives martial law.
>6th Prince Tyson
No.
>7th Prince Luzurus
Probably?
>8th Prince Sale Sale
Probably. There's no story reason for him not to.
>9th Prince Halkenburg
No. The carnivals are what radicalized him against the monarchy,
>10th Prince Kacho
No.
>11th Prince Fuugetsu
No.
>12th Prince Momoze
No.
>13th Prince Marayam
No.
>Wobble
No.

It feels weird that the carnivals haven't had more plot relevance. It's this major fucked up thing that was introduced but it's had zero impact on the story. If the Kurta massacre isn't related to the carnivals somehow then they don't serve a point.
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>>289314663
>It's this major fucked up thing that was introduced but it's had zero impact on the story.
Morena wouldn't task her gang to kill everyone if she didn't spend her childhood at epstein island it's there to show how fucked up kakin is
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>>289314696
It effect Morena's story but nobody else's. If not for her testimony we wouldn't even know about them at all.
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>>289314663
to be fair it only got revealed like 5 chapters ago. if Morena has a talk with someone like chrollo it could get interesting.
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>>289314696
Sex with this autist
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>>289314723
>but nobody else's.
you don't know that, the carnival might be the reason Tserri is all fucked up or why Toob wants the 3 elder princes dead
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>>289314663
>1st Prince Benjamin
>Yes.
No, the mafia is involved in the carnivals and it was stated that Ben is anti-mafia, so he would not participate.
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Benjamin would never rape villagers he only has sex with his bros
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How do the rape carnivals work with the female princes? Do they fuck random guys and mark the baby they birth 9 months later?
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>>289314663
>If the Kurta massacre isn't related to the carnivals somehow then they don't serve a point.
I don't see why that's relevant? The Kurta Clan Massacre was meant to show how heartless the Phantom Troupe are, they didn't just commit mass murder, they did so in a cruel manner to procure valuable biological treasures from their victims, literally plucking out their eyes. And don't say the Troupe didn't do it, because Uvogin remembers doing it.

There can be multiple atrocities different people in the world can commit, and all of it contributes to Morena's feeling that humanity doesn't deserve to live and should go extinct.
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>>289314800
He has relationships with women and sex with men. two very different things
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>>289314205
Human brains are delicious
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>>289314862
The humble prion would have killed every and all chimera ants.
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>>289309177
how did fat fucking retard win the last contest anyways
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>>289314936
He simply ate all the other princes
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>>289314936
last contest didn't have rihan to stop him
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>>289313448
The winner of the succession contest will be super buu. I also had a dream where Rihan died and it was very upsetting.
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>>289314936
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>>289314936
Beyond won it for him, he just sat on his ass doing nothing.
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When you think about it, Beyond is the one who founded the modern nation of Kakin.
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So why the fuck did no one plan for the contingency even though they all knew and kurapika told all of them?
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>>289312177
If Togashi kept up a weeky serialization we would have been this far in 2007
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>>289315031
Read the rest of the chapter, speedy.
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>bring me meruem
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>>289315068
A nenless Kortopi could one-shot this guy.
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>>289314663
Someone post the art of fuug and kacho riding two Meats, while making out with each other to convince this anon.
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>>289315043
I'm re reading.
My point being they easily found who were under beyonds henchmen but couldn't find people who were his direct kids?
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>>289315096
...how could they have found out Beyond has like 20 kids involved in the Succession War? They predicted spies in the assocation because that's just common sense. But secretly having dozens of kids and using them as suicide bombs is not a normal thing anyone would ever do nor something anyone could ever reasonably anticipate.
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>>289309177
is there a nen god? is nen objective?
is a condition the same for everyone or is it per person?
say there is something i find extremely hard to do while another finds piss easy and we make it as a condition, will the amplification percent be the same?
Basho's poetry for example; i can't wrote poems for shit while others can speak in rhymes all the time.
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>>289313959
Only way he wins is if Togashi makes him a vegetable or something, if he's inspired by king crimson, then maybe he trains his future sight to leap so far ahead he gets stuck and ends up confused for being half-lunatic half-soothsayer by Kakin
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>>289315157
>Hey how come all these guards look like they ntr people for a living
>Must be imagining things
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>>289315178
How are people still asking this in 2026? Nen is completely subjective. This has been stated over and over again since the moment nen was introduced and even in this arc that point has been reiterated several times.
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Nen is probably something from the dark continent that was brought back
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>>289315178
Nen is an objective phenomenon modified by subjective restrictions. The base aura a person has is objective. He can boost its effectiveness by using subjective modifiers based on his perception. If something doesn't restrict you personally, it won't do anything.
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>>289309954
>Everything furykov did this chapter made perfect sense, but that will be more clear
how does it make "perfect" sense if it can be made more clear?
even in your comments you guys are inconsistent.
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>>289315200
>even in this arc that point has been reiterated several times.
huh
i don't remember
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I don't see any Benjamin x Furykov Bara fanart. GET ON IT!
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>>289315068
Funny how the inner outlines of his coat resemble the female sex symbol
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When will they get off the boat?
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>>289315217
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>>289315252
When Togashi dies. And some other guy starts drawing the manga.
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>>289314936
Tbf we still don't know what his nen beast does
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How exactly is Benjamin going to kill Marayam when he's guarded by the literal strongest person on the ship?

Isn't Biscuit canon-wise one of the strongest in the entire series on par with Spiders?
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>>289315252
When I say they can get off
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>>289315316
Bisky is canonically the strongest transmuter alive.
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>>289315316
If you think being strong is a factor, you have failed to grasp the essence of nen based combat.
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>>289315316
>Isn't Biscuit canon-wise one of the strongest in the entire series on par with Spiders?
biscuit is chrollo tier at worse
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>>289315263
>Hunter x Hunter by Naoko Takeuchi
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>>289315337
Explain it to me one more time
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I wonder why Hisoka never wanted to fight Biscuit. Did her transformation fool him?
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>>289315352
You just did so yourself. You're being dense.
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>>289315377
Hisoka is a fucking pussy who only beats up on people weaker than him. He never fought any of the zodiacs either
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>>289315337
bisky knocked out a decent nen user without using nen her strength is 100% a factor
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>>289315378
>MY NEN ABILITY HAD BOTH THE PROPERTIES OF- ACK

Sorry to say strong punches with lots of Aura beats out every single nen ability in the series unless you're fighting kurapika
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>>289315245
Can't unsee it now.
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>>289315401
It can be countered just as easily. At the end strategy, planning, execution, and applied skill are the only factors.
>>289315408
And now you're just dumb.
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>>289315337
Bisky is still extremely intelligent and probably understands nen better than anyone else on the ship given that she's taught Wing, Gon, Killua, and probably a bunch of others in advanced nen usage. So she would definitely be able to outsmart most other nen users.
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>>289315316
The real interesting thing is that Benjamin ordered his soldiers to kill non-royal guards, but NOT attack Hunter Association members. So do you think the hunters guarding the princes will just lie down and take Ben's goons going in and opening fire? Fuck no.
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>>289315431
>At the end strategy, planning, execution, and applied skill are the only factors.
bisky got the most experience on the ship by far and she's also the most knowledgeable about nen by far she's a top tier regardless
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>>289315200
>>289315209
>>289315253
how do we explain Neon's ability if there were no nen god?
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>>289315454
It's just making a prediction.
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>>289315451
That means avoid combat with the hunters and just assassinate them ASAP. Plenty of Benjamin's crew also know they're fucked based on their expressions anyways.
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>nen flows
>Imagine like a river
>Add restrictions like a dam
>The (nen)water rises and so does the energy output
It's that simple to understand.
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>>289315337
If you want to argue that strength is just one factor, fine. But if you're going to claim that strength doesn't matter at all, you're a fucking retard.
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>>289315453
I doubt Bisky is a better nen user than Beyond.
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>>289315377
He's not into women.
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I don't like the amount of goons that are willing to sacrifice themselves in this arc. Despite what some people might think, soldiers still value their lives and won't just kill themselves.
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>>289315499
I'd consider it part of the skills but not the deciding factor.
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>>289315453
>bisky got the most experience on the ship by far and she's also the most knowledgeable about nen by far
Holy speedreader
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>>289315483
Seems Kurapika's Nen classes will pay off like right now. Even if the guards who awakened Nen don't have Hatsus, just Ren and Gyo is enough to be a significant threat far exceeding who they were before.
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>>289315431
Lmao

Stop discounting transmuters
A fucking ape like Uvogin can cause a literal super bomb explosion with a singular punch.
Biscuit could sink the entire fucking ship with a punch but she'll lose to what?

Yapping?
>MY ABILITY PREDATOR IS -KABOOOSH-
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>>289315471
even if it was a prediction, she knows nothing at all about the people she's writing it for.
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>>289315454
Neon's ability can be challenged by just not following what the fortune outlines. If it tells you "A fork in the road awaits you on a downcast day. Dare not turn left, lest your tears hit the floor before the droplets of rain." then just go right or don't leave home. Boom. you're golden.
I don't think Nen kami-sama would allow such leeway, she just predicts one possible future.
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>>289315519
It's mostly just Benjamin's goons because they know their abilities can go back to Benjamin if they die, so they're fanatically loyal. Camilla's have-nots were doomed to die anyway and I refuse to believe Camilla actually holds any regard for them beyond being sacrificial pawns.
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>>289315525
Biscuit could solo Ben and his goon squad with ease.
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>>289315554
Can I see the full pic?
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>>289315519
It seems the pot ritual has warped how everyone looks at sacrifices in Kakin.
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>>289315543
Still, getting people to kill themselves for your cause is a hard thing to do. You usually need to promise them 50 virgins in heaven to do so.
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>>289315519
Why wouldn't patriots be willing to die for their country? The people sacrificing themselves believe their respective prince is the one who will lead the nation to prosperity.
Do you only read shounen? Have you seriously never looked at how real wars work if this is somehow surprising to you?
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>>289315519
Benjamin and Camilla handpicked their most loyal subodrinates to accompany them for the boat ride.
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>>289315591
It's not really. Most people are generally cattle. How many slavs are dying at the moment for
>Checks notes
Jews
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>>289310326
>an entire arc they are incapable of engaging with
nta but i remembered more guard/servant names than anybody else in one of the last threads, and i still dislike this chapter immensely.
in fact, one of the more subtle issues with toga's writing in this arc shows up earlier: characters who formulate far out hypotheses about nen abilities/beasts immediately start treating exactly those hypotheses like certitudes, only entertaining the negative once the plot was driven forward enough.
beyond's enfants terribles are problematic as well. they seem to be just there, zooming into all sorts of directions with their little plans, which every single time happen to benefit some key character or another. Completely natural-looking characters, when seen as sheer plot devices.
and as if handing out abilities to people like candy was not enough in this arc, musse's secret window gets a rewind upgrade just in time.
this barely scratches the surface of what has gone wrong in this last chapter. other issues have already been brought up by other anons.
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>>289315604
>>289315605
Anons, there's a different between fighting and killing yourself. Even in a desperate battle, soldiers are fighting so they can live. They are not suicidal.
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>>289315519
Read about kamikaze attacks in ww2.
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>>289315596
Kamikaze fighters are not normal. There's a reason why it was unique enough to be given a name. It requires religious fervor, not just patriotism.
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>>289315614
>Goes out to a battlefield to become drone footage
Come on bro
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>>289315614
They're not average soldiers, they are fanatical cultists who view their prince as their god.
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>>289315519
All of cammy guards want to die for some reason, we only seen Vincent be the only one benjamin guard to commit suicide.
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What's her affinity and hatsu?
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>>289315666
Theta is a cute, two-faced, transmuter girl.
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>>289315666
Anal.
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>>289315625
Kamikaze weren't the only military units to use suicide attacks as a wartime tactic. Your understanding of how far patriotism can push people to extreme acts is clearly very limited.
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>>289315666
this stupid bitch's gross incompetence will be the cause of the 200k people who are gonna die at the end of this arc.
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>>289315666
Tserri's future nen beast.
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>>289315664
They're all prepared to sacrifice themselves for Benjamin, speedy.
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>>289315544
>when you get hit so hard you projectile vomit blood
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>>289315614
Therein lies the difference between Camilla's have-nots and Benjamin's soldiers. Ben's soldiers do try to stay alive, the only ones that died so far are Vincent (committed suicide to avoid implicating Benjamin or revealing abilities to Kurapika), Musse (couldn't have known that Camilla's ability is postmortem Nen that revives her), and Shikaku (killed by Halkenburg's men). Balsamilco and Vict are currently incapacitated by Halkenburg as well.

So the only one that outright chose to die was Vincent.
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>>289315703
Not even what i said anon, none of them but one sacrifice themselves. The rest of them fucked up in a fight and die trying to win
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>>289311051
>she thinks that behind every great man is a woman
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>>289315713
How about you stop speedreading, hmm?
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>>289315742
Why does Furykov look so moe here
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>>289315738
You were the one who brought up Cammy's guard being willing to die for Camilla, even though not a single one of her guards is dead. You were talking about mindset, not action. Ben's guards have the same mindset, they are all willing to die so that their prince can win.
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>>289315742
Being prepared to sacrifice themselves and actually doing it are two different stories. They don't seek to die in battle, their willingness to give their lives for their prince is marked as devotion and patriotism.

Camilla's have-nots, in comparison, all actively seek to die. Death is their objective.
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>>289315748
benjamin dono didnt blast his head off as soon as he saw him
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What the fuck was this if woble is not even the real prince
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>>289315845
plot hole
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>>289315519
As far as Kakin is concerned the nobles > the lives of everyone else. Not killing themselves for their sake can get you executed.
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>>289315845
woble(female) is on the ship and her nen beast is doing something to woble(boy)
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How would our HEROES Gon and Killua fare on the boat? How would Kurapika utilize them to get closer to Tserriednich? Missed opportunity to not have them on the boat. That shitter Alluka is the only reason why they’re not on it btw.
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I legitimately forgot leorio is part of this arc

This man went from being one of the main 4 to a background character
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>>289315880
Godspeed Killua one-shots everyone in the Succession War in one minute.
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>>289315880
Gon dies due to being a retard. He's a bad fit for this arc.
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>>289315880
killua would be way too broken especially if alluka tags along
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Want to impregnate her so bad
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>>289315742
Yaoi manga
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>>289315887
For fuck's sake, Togashi couldn't even give him a single line of dialogue. Why does he hate Leorio?
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>>289315880
Gon's brain would get fried anytime anyone tries to explain all the complicated shit about the succession war to him
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>>289315880
Absolutely terrible. You need to be incredibly level-headed to survive the war.
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>>289315919
uhhh they are sisters
they can't be doing that
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>>289315077
I also need to see this art, so I can better understand the plot.
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>>289315920
Wrong. What you need is STRONG NEN. Gon and Killua would end the Succession War on the first day.
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>>289315930
It's not incest if one of them is a nen beast
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>>289315887
main 5*
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>you have be smart and plan things through in the succession war and it's all about espionage

>"Oh shit I've been poisoned"
>"Ok time to start fucking shooting like it's columbine"
Lol
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>>289315950
What's irrational about that? If you only have a few hours to live, you no longer have the luxury of using the slow and steady approach. You have no choice but to hurry the fuck up and settle everything ASAP.
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>>289315950
Sometimes the best strategy is the most simple one I was afraid Togashi forgot about that.
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>>289315950
>speedreader and retarded
No need to announce it yourself.
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>>289315845
I think it's the Buddha mummy that's supposed to oversee the ritual checking on Woble. The prince in question isn't eligible to participate, so it just noted to itself that.
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>>289315939
TRUE. These soldiers and guards are JOBBERS that would get decimated by Gon and Killua. People tend to underestimate Gons ingenuity and intelligence he could do well here. Killua is roughly on par with Kurapika in terms of intelligence, he’d be able to deduce some stuff.
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>>289315845
Beyond’s child. He’s eligible for the throne btw.
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>>289313823
i'm fixating more on tenftori, though it might cause some complication as to what happened during his private hatsu test session with kurapika. toga drew him in all sorts of suspicious ways after the first SM incident.
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>Benjamin's dies to someone copying his own underhanded poison assassination plot

It's like poetry.
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>>289316036
>the first SM incident
well the first one where the puppet shows up
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>>289313992
better pretend that those cringe cool zoomies don't exist, anon
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>>289316040
I think it'd be even funnier if Furykov was lying and he really was working for Unma the entire time and got Benjamin to not kill him for his assassination plot.
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>>289313992
they stopped hanging out with him after high school
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>>289315887
His time will come when the real expedition by the Hunter Association starts after the Black Whale sinks
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the problem isnt that theres too much shit going on at once its that the shit going on is unnatural and contrived, doesnt feel procedural, feels like togashi forcing everything into place
>my hatsu which lets me analyze others hatsus which lets me find out your ability forces you to kill everyone right now
like come the fuck on
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>>289315930
Fuug is Beyond's daughter so they can go all the way anon
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>>289316145
Benjamin personally handpicked his guards and brought multiple ones with analytical abilities to counter other unknown abilities. He himself doesn't know what his GSB does (he can't even see it), so he was relying on other people to figure it out and tell him.
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>>289316152
They fucked shotas in the carnival btw
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>>289316167
gee how lucky the one who was forced to kill benjamin happened to be the one who can analyze nen abilities and that benjamins nen beast is some nonsensical eternal life ability
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>>289315887
>achieved dream
>becomes a Zodiac
>fucks Cheadle
>NNNOOOO WHY WON'T HE PARTICIPATE IN THIS STUPID BATTLE ROYALE INSTEAD OF DOING WHAT HE LIKES
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>>289316152
They're twins...
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>>289313823
Why would those two kill people in room 1014?
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What's his nen ability?
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>god tier design
halkenburg's nen beast
ben's nen beast
zhang's nen beast
>cool design
tse's nen beast
sale sale's nen beast
tyson's nen beast
>glorified pokemon
toob's nen beast
luzurus's nen beast
marayam's nen beast
momoze's nen beast
>why though
nasubi's nen beast
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>>289315316
Ducked Chimera Ants btw
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>>289316246
so did ging & botobai
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>>289316204
>>289316152
What if Beyond used nen to switch Nasubi's cum with his while the king was fucking the twins' mother. Literally Batman Beyond (no pun intended) scenario
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>>289316242
because booba
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>>289316246
Literally not her problem.
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>>289316214
I love the art of these cards
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>>289316246
Bisky doesn't like fighting. If Hisoka challenged her to a fight, she'd decline.
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>>289315919
one of them's hisoka in disguise.
the other one is bonolenov
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>>289315591
>says this in a thread about a JAPANESE manga of all places
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>>289313959
Tserr will give up his body to Halkenburg who will win the throne, and show that even to most evil people are capable of kindness.
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>>289316231
this nigga will get violently killed right? no way an ugly evil bastard ever lives in a shonen manga
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>>289315625
the sharp distinction between religion and patriotism that you're trying to draw exists only in your diminutive braincase, anon
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>>289316321
Chrollo's hitting him with Indoor Fish when he steals the royal treasures
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>>289316326
it would take 3 weeks for rihan to understand this ability
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>>289315701
This fucking thing is so hot and i'm tired of pretending otherwise.
Give me a proper ass shot of it already GODashi.
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>>289316324
Last I checked patriotism doesn't promise you 50 virgins in heaven.
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>>289316321
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>>289316231
Soul contracts. Kaiser lost his soul to his nen beast.
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How in the fuck is this nigga still alive?

All he does is smoke pot
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>>289316367
Been to irrelevant for anyone to target him, but not too vulnerable like Momoze. He's got the mafia connection, so hopefully he'll pay dividends.
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>>289316367
isnt he allied with some other prince
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>>289316342
my statement was about the will to sacrifice, the oh-so-complicated question you literally posed initially, and not about what any particular system promises, which is your current gotcha.
a person will sacrifice their life if they deem the outcome worthy enough, whether they like the fact or not. this is entirely independent of what system the perceived recompense is inscribed within. there is nothing simpler, anon, but you're choosing to make it complicated, like a jew.
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>don't have any
Is he lying or did he get flipped at some point
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>>289316386
No, he is the benefactor of the Cha-R
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>>289316437
Uooooh sweaty Cammy pheromones are strong!
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REMINDER WE ALREADY KNOW BENJAMIN SURVIVES HIS BATTLES WITH TSE AND CAMILLA

HE WON
HE WON
HE WON
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>>289316437
He's just not falling for Camilla's threats.
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>>289316465
he dies of aids and becomes a cuck ghost you surely won bro
>>289316437
why would he lie
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Enchimpcers
Shitmitters
Transmutts
Maniputards
Cockjewrers
Speciautists
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>>289316465
he's still about to die shitting himself
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Honestly, a little Cammy cheesecake wouldn't hurt.
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>>289315210
Your problem is that you are ESL. Wait for a translation in your native language, if that ever happens.
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>>289316500
So all the critics are ESL now, is that it? Weren't they like one single guy a moment ago?
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>>289316478
>why would he lie
because what's he saying is ridiculous.

>"Yeah bro, I killed you, but that was for your own benefit. Now you can ascend to godhood! Trust me, bro."
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>>289316479
>enhancer
>ability: conjuring a huge punch ghost
>transmuter
>ability: conjuring a masseuse ghost
>manipulator
>ability: giving his aura the properties of smoke
>conjurer
>ability: changing her body into vehicles
>specialist
>ability: conjuring a surgeon doll
HXH where the author actually sticks to the rules established by his own power system would be very interesting to read
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>>289316556
The alternative was Beyond's curse activating, killing Benjamin on the spot. This was the better option.
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>>289315880
Killua would have gotten bored on the upper decks, gone below for chocolate robots or something somehow learn that Illumi and Kalluto were on the ship along with the rest of the troupe and then wiped out the Heil-ly to kill some time.

Alternatively he would have met Hisoka in the casino and maybe would have been killed by him to spur Illumi into vengeful bloodlust
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>>289316553
Nta but when I look at ESL posts like these>>289315742, it becomes pretty obvious that most of them are probably double-digit IQ third-worlders. The samefag who was spamming these points didn't even bother replying to the anons who explained why he was wrong. Not to mention, I've never seen these criticisms anywhere else, because anyone actually reading the manga properly would understand what's going on.
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>>289316556
what does that have to do with his family which is what you were asking about
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>>289316600
>EVERYONE WHO DISAGREES WITH ME IS [PREJORATIVE]
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>>289316632
>clowntard doesn't read the manga
Everytime.
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>>289316256
>>289316204
>I assure you your higness, this nen attack is a crucial part of the seed urn ceremony...
Fuugbros we're so back.
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>>289316332
How long for Furykov?
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>>289316557
Don't forget
>emission
>ability: insect mind-control
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>>289314751
Benjamin is the most conservative prince so he absolutely would participate since its a hui guo rou tradition.
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>>289316696
That's because Sayird is a retard and is using manipulation mainly despite being an emitter. It's a similar case to Kastro.
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>>289316658
an hour
a minute if it's benjamin doing the cheek clapping
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hisoka is a pedophile in 2 ways, the other one is always punching down on people who are weaker than him
All of his genius bungee gum traps wouldn't even work on GI gon, only works on scrubs who don't use gyo reflexively
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>>289316799
He doesn't need to use traps, speedy. Only weaklings like Chrollo hide behind traps.
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>>289316722
But even good old Netero used Transmutation+Emission Hatsu. And he is Enchancer. Is he a retard as well?
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>>289316837
what the fuck are you talking about you nigger, his only strategy is making invisible bungee threads, its what he did against castro and gotoh and what he tried to do against chrollo
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>>289316837
>he posted the nenless arm wrestling ranking again
>meanwhile according to the official chart
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>>289316632
Prejorative isn't a word retard.
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Hisoka wouldn't have lasted 5 seconds against Silva & Zeno
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>>289310600
Balsamilco!Furykov!Where the fuck is the cure!?
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>>289316929
Hisoka solos Meruem
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>>289316865
Netero could afford to waste aura since he had a pretty terrible restriction.
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>>289316837
>Bono is eight in arm wrestling
How Hinrigh and Zakuro will take on troupe when Bonolenov killed Lynch with just pure strength?
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>>289316929
Nice headcanon.
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>>289316865
Godtero had STRONG NEN so he didn't need to give a fuck about the rules.
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>>289316896
>Chrollo nen: 4
>Hisoka nen: 5
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>>289316837
>Chrollo weaker than Machi
LMAO
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Pika and Anite will be best couple
Imagine they sex
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>>289316896
>Wing above Knuckle and Shoot
There is no goddamn way
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>>289317062
Less is more.
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>>289317160
What could possibly make you think Wing is weak?
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>>289317062
that makes hisoka's defeat even more embarrassing
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Seriously, 20% difference isn't THAT huge. Kastro only fucked up because BOTH categories for his clones were far off from his natural affinity. And his main problem was Manipulation aspect of the Hatsu, Conjuration aspect was fine.
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>>289316896
hum where is the ant king
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>>289317177
I didn't think he was weak but he's a plain tutorial character that shows up pretty early in the story to exposition dump. I just didn't mentally have him higher than two guys who fought the royal guard.
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>>289317023
Hinrigh will solo spiders by turning explosives and vials of poison into pigeons.
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>>289317062
>hisoka spirit 3
>chrollo spirit 5
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>>289317210
He was trained by Bisky. Knuckle and Shoot also had to be tested before they were even accepted into the assault team.
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>>289316722
Primarily using a category that you have at 80% isn't that bad. Also there may be advantages to using manipulation as an emitter over using it as a manipulator. A manipulator should have more refined control, but an emitter should be able to have the ability last longer. Also manipulators fairly consistently rely upon physical objects as a condition for control, while it seems an emitter could just blast someone/thing with a ball of aura, without having to stab them with a needle or whatever.
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>>289317210
Don't look up his relationship with Netero and Biscuit.
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>>289317237
>>289317237
>>289317237
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>>289317199
Enhancers put more aura into objects and make them stronger

Also closer to emission which means it is more effective from afar.

Part of his ability is conjuring phantom limbs which is more simplistic and was extremely effective vs hisoka
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>>289317217
Yeah, this works against Chrollo's favor.
Spirit here translates to mental stability/ fortitude.
Chrollo's biggest strength was his ability to keep a cool head in tough situations.
Now Chrollo is losing it, while Hisoka has locked in.
Hisoka's Spirit went up, while Chrollo's went way down.
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>>289316896
theres no way razor is at the same str level as hisoka and gon, that nigga was like twice as strong as everyone there
And Netero same stats as pitou? When Pitou was completely unharmed by neteros attack?
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>>289316896
>>he posted the nenless arm wrestling ranking again
Arm wrestling is done with Nen.
Which is why Enhancers at the top, followed by Transmuters and Emitters, followed by the rest.
If the arm wrestling rank was without Nen, Chrollo would be naturally weaker than Machi, which would be really fucking embarassing.
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>>289317306
>which would be really fucking embarassing.
..and hot!
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>>289317306
You know Machi has to have incredible arm strength to pull off her high speed stitching that can reattach a severed limb in seconds. Sure she uses nen for that technique, but the fundamental physical ability to pull that off has to be incredible as well.
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>>289317292
>theres no way razor is at the same str level as hisoka
Hisoka is at the same STR level as Razor.
He's stronger than everyone in the Troupe barring Phinks (stronger than Franklin, the juggernaut).
He one-shot Shalnark with a punch.
Sent a stone slab flying far away with a kick.
Not to mention he was able to redirect Razor's Ko ball no problem.
And it's also worth wondering how much torque the Human Hammer was generating with its 350kg tip.
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>>289317394
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Wait, Benjamin wants to become a literal tree and pass the throne to his bastard child? Lol
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>>289317394
>Not to mention he was able to redirect Razor's Ko ball no problem.
He got all of his fingers broken by razor what are you talking about, that whole match was a 5v1 against razor because the physical difference was so large, they had to pull everything just to MOVE him out of the bounds let alone damage him in any way
To me it seemed that Razor was just one of the juggernaut type nen users like uvo, silva and bisky, in pure physicality he would only be trounced by the royal guards and meruem
>He one-shot Shalnark with a punch
the poop troupe sucks who cares
>Sent a stone slab flying far away with a kick.
shit start of series gon can do
>He's stronger than everyone in the Troupe barring Phinks
The fact that Hisoka is not stronger than that tard tells you everything, pic rel

well good think the authors HCs dont matter at the end of the day
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>>289317473
He plans to become a deity, not a literal tree.
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>>289317536
It's a figure of speech. It's the one he gave to his father after Cammy made a fool of herself talking about pet dogs.
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>>289317506
>that whole match was a 5v1 against razor because the physical difference was so large
First of all it was Razor's is an Emitter. It was Razor's ideal scenario.
And even then Hisoka was playing along to Gon's whims. He could've attached Bungee Gum to the ball and to the ceiling, and redirect it every time.
>shit start of series gon can do
Gon has to use all his body strength just to lift the stone slab. Hisoka sends it flying away with a simple kick.
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>>289316321
*sweats in Bizeff*
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>>289317506
>Is Killua extremely elite and highly trained?
>no its Phinks who is retarded
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>>289317306
>Which is why Enhancers at the top, followed by [...]
But Gon would've lost against Shi if she used her dominant hand
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>>289317285
>Chrollo, the one losing it, is hatching a plan to secure a kill on Hisoka
>Hisoka, the calm one, thinks he's gonna win cause he's the bestest fighter

Again:
hisoka spirit 3
chrollo spirit 5
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>>289318156
>Chrollo cowers in fear of Hisoka while Hisoka relaxes unbothered
Again:
>Chrollo nen: 4
>Hisoka nen: 5
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Sex with Anita
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>>289315908
he's a dick



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