Well that was cute but the story was a complete mess, especially in the third act, definitely his weakest movie.
it had a wizard in it so that's how you know it was one of his good movies
Second plotfag making a retarded thread about a Ghibli movie in two days
>>289317835it's Miyazaki's best work by far and Ghibli's third best movie (second is Kaguya-hime and first is Iblard Jikan)
>>289317865Its just narratively incoherent. Would be much better if it was just a cute kids love story Instead there's this apocalypse tacked on to needlessly raise stakes. Boring adult stuff that adds up to nothing
>>289317865maybe he's just going through them and is disappointed?Nausicaa manga > Nausicaa movie > Spirited > Mononoke > ..... fuck your red pig movie and artslop (spirited excluded)
>>289318066oh i forgot to put laputa there right behind nausicaa. my bad.
>>289318029>incoherentRetard>Boring adult stuff that adds up to nothingThe "boring adult stuff" reinforces the kids story because they don't care about it at all. While the world is on the brink of disaster they have their comfy stroll through the flooded land without a worry in the world and at the end when Ponyo is told to seriously consider her decision and its ramification she says yes without a second thought like it's the most natural thing in the world. If you didn't notice the deliberate juxtaposition and consider what could be the point you might be retarded
>>289318115im not the OP but fuck juxtapositions just give me a straight fantasy story no real world shit (spirited away excluded)
>>289318115And this exactly what makes it bad, it's a children's movie but really only adults enjoy watching it.
ghibli films can be good but miyazaki needs to get off his fucking high horse
>>289318115Why is it being incoherent for me viewed as retarded. Shouldn't a kids movie be simple to grasp and have clear conflicts? See Spirited Away. An "adult" children's movie that is easy to grasp. She is thrust into the grown up world to save her parents. There. That's all that it is. Conflict arises from navigating that world. How long does it take for you to explain Ponyo's central conflict? Can you do it in a single pithy sentence ?
>>289317835The Boy and the Heron is his weakest by far.
The Wind Rises is his best work since Princess Mononoke
>>289317835The film is about a father's fear of his daughter leaving home and finding a partner. It's understandable. Surreal things happen because of it, since the father is an exaggerator. There are also pure messages like loving others even if they are different, and so on. The animation is excellent, with strong composition and use of color. The soundtrack is beautiful. It's a masterpiece and much better than the trash that OP likes.
>>289318029It's not incomprehensible, it's just that you need a completely linear movie that explains everything that's happening every second. This is a textbook sign of low intelligence.
>>289318629Presenting the movie as made for children while including lots of complicated, unexplained sequences of events can work. In this case, it detracts from the actual events because we're struck with sudden urgency that is ill explained. There's two movies here that are at odds with each other. To the extent that the "adult" movie robs us of one of the main characters for extended periods of time. What I "need" (a linear movie) is not at all what is being discussed. That is something you decided on your own. Ponyo is linear. Its just unclear in its language, what it wants to do and what its morality should be.
>>289317835Miya lost it after Mononoke, should have stayed retired.
>>289317865I loved Totoro or Whisper of the Heart despite not being heavy on plot but Ponyo just feels shallowAt first you think it might have some environmentalist themes but they barely there
Shut up, fags.
>>289317835>definitely his weakest movie.Nah
