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Next week, she dies
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Hunter x hunter sex with machi
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hunter x hunter sex with Tserriednich horse nen beast
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>>289337295
A job for our hero Hisoka.
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>>289337350
A job for our hero Kurapika.
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>>289337287
Now that we know that emission rules over sparial relationships and teleportation.
What do you think are the domains of application of enhancement, transmutation, manipulation and conjuration?
Give me your best theories.
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>>289337287
Rihan has been deployed
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Total clown supremacy btw
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>>289337465
Machi is schlicking to this as we speak.
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>>289337465
How will Bisky react?
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>MARTIAL LAW IN ONE FUCKING MINUTE
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Remember Lynch? Yeah, me neither.
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>>289337287
Bets on how Benjamin gets around Cammy's cat? Anons have been spitballing how to beat the cat for years, what method do you think Benjamin will use to counteract it? Full bragging rights if he gets her with it.
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Guys, I feel like something might happen.
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>>289337600
Lock her in a coffin and let her slowly suffocate.
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>>289337590
who?
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Just how fucked is this guy
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Reposting this from last thread. I think we can all agree only Tse and Wobberu are safe. Everyone else is eligible for the chop.

Martial law survival rate for all the princes:
>Wobble
100% (no one knows her whereabouts)
>Tserriednich
100% (extreme plot armor, special ability to fake his death, cover image, plotline with Kurapika)
>Halkenburg
90% (Ben isn't going straight for his ass and even fears him somewhat, but it's possible Ben finds a way to kill Halk during martial law since he's focused on figuring out the ins and outs of Halk's body-swapping).
>Fugetsu
80% (has some plot armor given by Melody and Kacho, but there's still a chance she might die as her plotline isn't that important as things stand)
>Marayam
50% (little kid plot armor, Bisky is there, could still die I think since he has no narrative-related plot armor)
>Tyson
40% (is a tranny, that automatically gives her plot armor, could potentially be Hisoka's benefactor which could give her additional plot armor, we still don't know much about her ability and Izunavi keeps speculating)
>Tubeppa
20% (could have something up her sleeve, maybe Togashi made her so irrelevant just to fool the readers)
>Camilla
10% (we know most of her abilities, we seen her in action a lot, we learned a lot about her soldiers, meaning there's not much plot mystery or relevance left to uncover, hence no plot armor, Ben treats her as a dealt with problem in chapter 410 so she's likely dead)

The last two
>Zhang
40% (the mystery surrounding his ability is almost solved so no plot armor, he's kinda boring and so is his ability so it's doesn't promise much, Ben might just find him and kill him during the raid of the lower decks, might live because deal with Kurapika or some shit)
>Luzurus
30% (could potentially already be dead and Ben just doesn't know, but the additional art Togashi drew of him might hint to him having some future plot relevance, we still don't understand his ability)
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>>289337704
People are counting this guy out but I firmly believe he is about to play absolutely out of his mind and lock down hamster boy for Benjamin. Dark horse MVP for this batch.
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>>289337590
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>>289337776
When this manga is over, I won't be able to tell her apart from Camilla. It's all going in the brain trashbin. That's what happens when you have too many characters.
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>>289337287
No she wont.
We will go back another 2 hours to see what a member of the spiders are doing before the Martial Law plan. It's going to be another 10+ chapters before we catch up with Ben's plan.
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>>289337287
Invest in Cammy coin.
Her ability makes her too tricky to kill. Benjamin will prioritize Tse and only send guards to hold Cammy. This will give Cammy's GSB a chance to finally do something and take control of those guards. Benjamin will be tricked by Tse as well. It's over for him.
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>>289337295
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>>289337732
I want to see what stupid shit tyson punishment is for in the book before she dies
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>>289337704
fml
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>>289337965
Some baldy and a little girl is standing in the way.
How hard could it really be to kill some kid with a pet hamster?
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>>289337945
Yeah, that's left unrevealed. Extra reason to believe she survives martial law. I'm thinking her ability appears so benevolent and harmless that it could easily bear it's fangs later. As Hisoka would say, love and hate are two sides of the same coin.
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>>289337304
The problem with Genthru's ability is more granular than that. Gon just lacked the fine aura control required to exploit little flower. Genthru could read Gon's aura, and Gon couldn't adjust his aura on the fly either.

Someone like Biscuit or Knuckle simply cross-counter Genthru any time he uses little flower. Needing to use your aura to defend yourself from your own attack is an terrible weakness against someone with good aura control.

Genthru uses his aura to attack, and use his aura to defend himself. No matter what he does, a cross counter will ALWAYS have more aura in it then he can defend against.
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Rihan makes me feel self conscious about my low IQ
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>>289337350
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I skipped the entire Genthru plot both in the manga and in the anime, that's how boring it was, and I reread the manga a dozen times.
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>>289337590
I like how she was in that phase of getting a nice little steady amount of fanart but then gets kwabbed and deleted from the cultural hivemind
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>>289338096
Genthru is a great character.
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>>289338124
Yep. Happens all the time with side-characters.
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>Ging Freecs
Lawful-Neutral keikaku man, he captured Razor despite not being a blacklist hunter and gave him gainful employment. Currently he is trying to keep Pariston in check
>Nasubi
Chaos-Neutral keikaku man, not actively malicious and while he cares solely about the posterity of his country he's still willing to sacrifice 200,000 people to determine the next leader.
Also, he loves a good rape festival
>Beyond
>Pariston
Chaos keikaku men, nuff' said
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>>289337772
Lmao actually would be funny to see this guy clutch this
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wouldn't it be funny if furykov were still manipulated by unma & lied to ben's about his ability
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I'm gonna die of old age before I see Chrollo vs Hisoka animated.
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>>289337600
He'll get a lackey to quietly suffocate Camilla's spa therapist while she's getting a massage, then Benjamin will start massaging her and she'll enjoy it, but then he snaps her neck and sacrifices himself with his shitty lifespan. But then Camilla's nen beast will control Benjamin's lackey and shoot Camilla, letting her gain more lifespan and keep living.
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>>289337350
Gives me an idea for an ability: the user can neutralize any creature including nen beasts, but he has to nut in it first.
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>>289338092
It's odd that terror man didn't ask any of his nen goons to describe his GB. You think they would be truthful about what it looks like?
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>>289338179
>Also, he loves a good rape festival
> he's still willing to sacrifice 200,000 people to determine the next leader.
>not actively malicious
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>>289338211
He does it for Kakin, he does it for his people.
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Illumi is the only true Zoldyck. He should've been made heir but they got the weird blonde/white obsession going on. Godspeed won't ever be as versatile as needle manipulation.
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What did they mean by this?
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>>289338004
Like stealing candy from a bab-ACK
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>>289338124
>introduced in 2018
>exits in 2024
she had a good run
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STRONG NEN
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>>289338274
Bisky will be distracted by some sexy guy, allowing Ben's mean to slip past and kill the kid.
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>>289338081
Absolutely based post. I thought I was the only person in these threads who understood the metaphisical and ontological threat that Hisoka poses.
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>>289338303
Holy FUARK...
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>>289338303
Why do you keep posting this crap?
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>>289338272
Hisoka is so lucky that she pays so much attention to him
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>>289337776
KWAB
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Slow thread. Lets speed it up by posting the greatest and canonest of HxH ships. These two will save the arc by giving us a greater battle than Chrollo vs Hisoka, and an even greater sex scene. Say what you want, but we all know Hisoka's gonna nut again on-screen.
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>>289338410
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>>289338410
>jacks it on-screen
My hero.
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>>289337287
>You like Togashi Yoshihiro?
>Um, he's okay.
>His early work was a little too "battle shonen" for my tastes
>But when Hunter X Hunter came out in '98, I think he really came into his own, commercially and artistically.
>With its celebratory yet subversive commentary on shonen manga tropes, Hunter X Hunter became an instant classic, inspiring Japanese authors for years to come.
>He's been compared to Fyodor Dostoevsky, but I find that Togashi Yoshihiro has a far more bitter, cynical sense of humor
>Hey, Tserriednich?
>Yes, Benjamin?
>Why are there DVDs of American Psycho strewn about the room? Do you like Patrick Bateman? Is he your husbando?
>No, Benjamin.
>Is that a Nintendo Switch?
>Yes, it is.
>In 2003, Togashi began the Chimera Ant arc, his most set of accomplished volumes. I think his undisputed masterpiece is the Palace Invasion section, a series of chapters so good, most people probably don't think about its meaning.
>But they should, because it's not only about humanity's unbridled tendency for malice whilst championing its potential for good, but it's also a personal statement about the mangaka himself.
>Hey, Benjamin!
>TRY DECLACING MARTIAL LAW NOW, YOU FUCKING FAGGOT!
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>>289337732
After benjamin who will become the next mini antagonist, aside from tserriednich
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>>289338490
Wobble. It's actually an old man who transmuted himself into a baby. Is sucking breast milk as we speak.
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>>289338308
Hisoka isn’t that big of a threat. You guys are coping hard about him. He will only “linger” as long as togashi has use for him
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Ok, so with Furkyov's 'Alchemist'
>The more powerful, effective, and influential the ability, the longer it takes to decipher.
and in 'Alchemist's second step, the time to "transmute" (read as alchemize, NOT the Nen category) is equal to decipherment time, AND must proceed uninterrupted.

How much time did Furykov spend alchemizing Benjamin's GSB, can it be deduced from other time related benchmarks?
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rihan SOON
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I was thinking, what stops princes from trying to kill each other before the succession contest? It's been going on for many generations, not exactly a secret. Are they held back by their sense of morality? LOL

Given his strong ties to the military and extremely loyal soldiers, Benji would have been much better off whacking as many of the elder princes as he could before the contest. Then after the seed urn ceremony he would just have a bunch of little kids to mop up. The other princes would have no nen beasts and not know when to expect attacks, unlike during the contest when everyone is on maximum alert.

Does Kakin have law enforcement that could actually prosecute the eldest prince who controls a bunch of the military? As long as it looks like an accident they would have to stay shut up about it to avoid a political crisis.
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>>289338179
Yeah, I know I could have used "Chaotic", also notice that three of these men have something in common All of them if you subscribe to a certain theory. It's almost like HxH is a commentary on toxic fatherhood.
>>289338211
Those festivals are good stress-relief and the rape babies produced are necessary for the caste system.
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>>289338537
>Are they held back by their sense of morality?
it's been stated that there wouldn't be a succession war if any of the princes were to die before reaching the boat
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Where is Furykov in 410? From Benjamin's perspective, his life should be the most valuable thing at the moment, you'd think he wouldn't want him out of sight.
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>>289338524
We've been on the boat for 2 weeks, right? 2 and a half? He clearly told Benjamin about its effect a while ago off-screen and was spending plenty of time watching over Kurapika during the nen classes. I imagine it must've taken about a week, maybe less since Furykov can freely be close to Benjamin, and then as much time strenghtening the GSB.
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>>289338522
Just accept it anon. You can't keep down the clown.

Say it.
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>>289338066
Genthru was a nen retard with a poorly thought out technique. It's weird that the average hunter is trash to him. Hunters represent the 0.1% elite of the world, and yet 99.9% of Hunters are also idiots.
But Countdown would be pretty amazing in the Succession War.
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>>289338590
None of Benjamin’s personal men are with him in 410. Which is interesting
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>>289338628
Not him but considering the voyage will last 3 months, and we're only on week 2, I predict this arc will end in 30 years from now.
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i wish m reality was Refined in resinn
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>>289338096
He and Razor are the best part of GI
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>>289338744
Razor yes, Genthru no.
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>>289338693
They probably are busy arresting the princes and looking for luzurus and zhang but furykov not being at his side is strange
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>>289338138
He is unironically the best antagonist in the whole manga.
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goreinu is the best part of GI
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>what? kill everyone in the boat? do you think im some sort of psycho? you heil-ly are truly sick people you know
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>>289338590
In 410, in the widespread panel showing Benjamin confronting the Mizai, Botobai, and Kaiser, there's a soldier with light hair, far-away perspective-wise, BETWEEN Benjamin and dark haired soldier more or less in front of Ben. That soldier MAY be Furykov, maybe.
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>>289338771
Genthru yes
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>BUT ANYWAYS IF THE PAY IT'S GOOD ENOUGH I'LL BLOW THIS BOAT FOR YOU MORENA
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>>289338809
>>289338832
The hell was he gonna do with 50 billion? It was gonna be split with his bros, too. Were they gonna fund Greed Island 2?
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>>289338832
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Killing people to "level up" like in a video game? Heh. I'm something of a gamer myself...
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>>289338865
He didn't know or care. He was doing it for fun.
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>>289338772
I still think he was fucked by Camilla’s GSB
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>>289337600
He's going to TSK-17 her, knowing that his body will be long dead by the time she succumbs to it, denying the cat his lifeforce.
Either that, or some obscure interaction between her ability, Shikaku's Culdcept (unlikely) and/or Benji's 4th undisclosed Baton ability.
Whichever way, he likely intends to disrupt the "resolution order" of how the cat activates rather than bypassing it altogether, as he goes over how it's activation operates.
Also i don't believe he will delegate the kill, as this would go against his intent displayed in 413.
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>>289338873
What vidya do Team Genthru play?
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>>289337937
>happy to kill some kids
>but she definitely didn't take part in the massacre
pff
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>>289338934
They gank lowbies in WoW, they camp STV and never made it to 60
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>>289337542
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>>289337287
Leave Cammy to Ben.
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>>289338934
On weekends they play Mario Party. Genthru likes 7 the most because of all the boards about taking stars from others and chasing. Sub likes 3 because it's the most strategic. Bara likes 5 because it's full of mashing minigames.
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>>289338930
Letting Camilla off with just infection is a bad move. He need to find a way to kill her immediately before she’s saved by some deus ex machina. There’s a good chance tubeppas ability can produce something specifically for tsk-17,

Benjamin should have the third guy he’s with kill Camilla, then kill that guy before the cat can kill him, meaning Camilla doesn’t get any soul power to revive
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Genthru would wreak a fucking havoc on this shithole ship.
>but first he needs to warn people about the Bomber and then reveal himself so that his ability can be activated
All he has to do is take over the radio room after reaching as many people as possible and skadoosh
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>>289337732
Zhang's going to get got by morenas gang. There's a reason princes are worth 50 points and he's literally walking right into their hands with 0 nen defenses. No way he survives much longer
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>>289338934
Ragnarok Online
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>>289339020
He has to touch them while saying the word
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>>289339007
>Delegates the kill but still takes it upon himself to resolve the chain of effect.
I like this.
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Should I read HxH if I like JJK?
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>>289338934
Monster hunter
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>>289337772
>Bisky chama
he's toast
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>>289339020
>*Genthru volunteers as meat*
>*huff* *puff* h-have you...nughhh heard of the bomb...err....
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>>289338967
Just a prank
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>>289339070
No, you should read ONE PIECE.
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>>289339070
Yes
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>>289339103
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Everyone thinks Hisoka will be the joker, but it's actually gonna be GENSURU and he's gonna gain thousands of levels in an instant and obtain his dream ability: Boomer World...
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>>289339170
Genthru's insane new nen abilities
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>>289339070
Yeah probably. If you like the parts of jjk with like the intricacies of cursed energy hxh has a lot of that type of stuff but it's explained better and the feeling is usually "aha that makes so much sense" rather than "oh the narrator just made up some new bullshit for the scene to work". If you're more into the characters and pacing of jjk you might also like Togashi's earlier series yuyu hakusho
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Used ChatGPT to give me an accurate ability:

Nen Ability: The Archive of Possibilities
Category: Conjuration (with light Specialist-like flavor)

You conjure an old leather notebook called The Archive.
Whenever you spend at least five minutes carefully observing someone, you can write a concise sentence describing one of their defining traits, such as:

"Always protects weaker people."
"Can't resist proving themselves."
"Values promises above comfort."

If your observation is accurate, the sentence becomes permanently recorded. Later, when interacting with that person, you may "invoke" one recorded trait.

For several minutes:
You instinctively know the best way to appeal to that trait.
Your intuition becomes unnaturally sharp regarding their likely decisions.
Small coincidences seem to favor interactions consistent with that trait.
It doesn't force anyone to act against their nature—it simply amplifies your understanding of them.

Advanced Technique: Revision
Once per day, you may write a new sentence about yourself. Examples:

"I won't hesitate."
"I stay calm under pressure."
"I always finish what I start."

For one hour, your mind aligns with that statement.
The stronger the statement differs from your real personality, the more aura it consumes.

Trying something impossible, like: "I feel no fear."
would likely exhaust you immediately.

Conditions
False observations cannot be recorded.
You must learn the person's true name before writing about them.
You cannot record more than seven traits for one individual.
Destroying the notebook erases all records until it is recreated, which takes several days of meditation.

Combat Applications
Rather than increasing strength directly, it excels at:
Predicting opponents.
Negotiating.
Psychological warfare.
Identifying hidden motives.
Creating openings during battle.
Against straightforward fighters, it feels almost like reading the future.
Against deceptive opponents, it rewards patient observation instead of guessing.
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>>289339168
>this was only around 1/5 into the palace invasion
>we probably won't even be back into special martial law for another few chapters (possibly a whole fucking batch if they cut to Morena or the Troupe)
oh wow we're really in for it now
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GENSURU (ON TV): I'm afraid there will be no voyage... because I blew it up. Everyone is dead. Thus is the beginning of my new Boomer Jidai...

GON (WATCHING TV): GENSURU!!!!!!!

Chapter 420 / End
Gon is back!!
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>>289338809
Which spider could he beat in a 1v1?
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Do you guys think Togashi is a 2003chad or a brotherhoodfag?

This is very important for the current arc.
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>>289339261
KILLUA: NANIKA REMOVE GENTHRU'S LEGS
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>>289339306
>2003chad
Of course.
He also probably is a 1999 HxH > 2011 HxH himself.
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>>289337542
How would she react to the Health Inspector?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_nglAaV7jL8&pp=0gcJCWQCo7VqN5tD&ra=m
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>>289339311
*BALLS
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>>289339049
Based
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>>289339070
Depends. JJK feels like If Togashi was purely a fightfag and his second favorite series was bleach
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>>289337287
Nencho's letter will save Cammy
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>>289338649
>But Countdown would be pretty amazing in the Succession War.
Countdown would be far worse because it kills every target in 6000 heartbeats and nobody is as free to move among the upper tier as the people so fiercely loyal to someone like Benjamin that they would willingly die rather than be told what to do. It worked best on Greed Island because the Nikke Alliance had the most power and freedom of any faction on the island so running away and making them come to you in limited capacities, along with the fear of death very much alive, made it a vastly superior negotiation tool.
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>>289338803
Realistically who could defeat him?
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>>289339247
We can eliminate Morena, Phinks & Feitan as potential cutaways next chapter.
We know Morena is playing the card game with Borksen just before and right after Benjamin officially declares martial law 15 minutes after this chapter takes place. We also know Phinks & Feitan haven't reached their hideout yet as they don't disturb the card game. Hisoka or Nobunaga are the only characters I could see Togashi cutting away to next chapter, but I think we'll stay with Ben's perspective.
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>>289339364
Her redemption arc soon
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>>289339288
Most of them
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>>289339103
what is that place Cammy is in? ben too. why aren't they in their rooms?
how did Cammy refuse to have Ben's guard? we know Tserrie had the right to refuse because they have the same mother but Cammy is born to the second queen.
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>SHIZUKU JUST CHECKMATED HISOKA
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>>289339407
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>>289339243
Your ability is to do what every main and side character can do in HxH?
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>>289339467
They are in the VVIP section of the ship because both had charges brought against them
>how did Cammy refuse to have Ben's guard?
She didn't. Musse was assigned to her and she wound up killing him after forcing his hand. There wasn't a need for Benjamin to put another guard on her because Secret Window was in effect.
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>>289339523
thanks, scholar.
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How can Gensuru be so based
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Leave martial law to me
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>>289338628
I agree Furykov communicated the nature of GSB-1 to Benjamin some time ago, the dialogue makes this clear.
We're on day 12 of the voyage, Halkenburg's body reached the funeral hall at 2pm. Day 13 has not yet dawned.
>must've taken about a week
Decipherment alone cannot have taken a full week (168 hours).
If you mean decipherment+alchemizing equaling about a week, this is still too much. That would mean GSB-1 is so insanely complex/powerful/influential that Alchemist requires 84-ish hours of UNINTERRUPTED time to create the "weapon".
Sleep must surely constitute an "interruption" to the second step of 'Alchemist'.
The vibe I get is that Ben's GSB is single utility, single effect. Unlike Zhang Lei's GSB-3, multiple requirements, multiple effects.

The crux is whether Furykov began alchemizing GSB-1 in c413 or prior to, the latter seems unlikely to me as Furykov only explained his plan in full just now. It would be bizarre if Furykov, at an earlier time, just said "First Prince, I'm not going to explain exactly why just yet, but please let me Alchemize your GSB"
But it's not impossible I suppose, in which case it may be that Furykov took 1~3 hours alchemizing GSB-1. Three hours is being generous, I imagine GSB-1's complexity requires only 45mins~90minutes.
BUT, if Furykov alchemized GSB-1 PRIOR to c413, where is the "weapon" the ability creates?
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>Benjamin?
>TserrieWHO?
>Martial law? Huh, whatever
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>>289339070
Yeah, read Gege sing its praises. If you liked the fights, curse energy mechanics and chill private interactions between the villains then you'll probably like HxH
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>>289339070
HxH and JJK have similarly rules heavy explanations for how everything works. That will feel familiar right away from JJK. The big difference you'll get is HxH characters tend to lean more toward calculated and patient observers compared to JJK characters who are very fightfag orientated and ready to rumble all the time. Gege pulled a lot out of this story because he loves it.
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>>289339672
In JJK is an universal rule that "cursed techniques" become stronger when you speak the rules outload to the target.
I think there is one instance of a character intentionally being misleading or outright lying about the technique rules.
Which is interesting and beg the questions why more nen users doesn't bullshit rules to gain time or distract the oponnent.
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>>289339616
HOLY FUARRRK
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>>289339748
She fucks that cat.
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>>289339670
Wifey fanart
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I'm playing a hunter x hunter rpg campaign.
If one anon reply to this post I will share the current summary of events.
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>>289339824
Like a tabletop?
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>>289339670
>>289339796
It's funny how hxh keeps going while these guys are basically retired by now
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>>289339844
>Like a tabletop?
Yeah, is a custom set of rules in format play by post.
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>>289339867
If you are using D20 I will be disappointed.
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>>289339855
Togashi is an old school mangaka and they loved long running series.new authors can barely get 30 volumes before ending
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>>289339511
>implying
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>>289339712
I don't exactly how to answer that but I think that did happen in the manga inadvertently. But I imagine you would have to be a pretty capable fighter to stop people from ganking you mid-explanation, see Genthru. Or maybe make a pseudo-territory/domain that discourages direct contact, see Cheetu's first ability.

Regardless most HxH are secretive about the rules of their abilities unless they think they're guaranteed to win and if they're certain of their victory, there's probably little need for that level of duplicity.
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>>289339914
Oh yeah I forgot JJK is full of ganking lol
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>>289339511
>>289339902
Gato
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>>289339895
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>>289339261
MOMENTS: HYPE
AURA: AND
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>>289339382
True, but the Succession War takes place over months, so there would be plenty of opportunities to place bombs on people, and he can use the intercom system to explain his ability to fulfill the final condition.
If he went to Kurapika's nen classes, he'd have the chance to touch everyone there. He could also touch people during the banquets, and touch the Ben guards that cycle through his room.
The 6000 heartbeats don't matter because he can touch thumbs with his buddies to activate the bombs all at once.
There are so many nenless Princes and nen-noobs in this arc that there would be a ton of collateral damage just from people being in the same room as an explosion.

People able to meet conditions for your ability subtly and without tipping people off is a very underrated element of any Hatsu. If Genthru was smart he would register his name as "Bilibomber" or something when he signs up to be a guard, then she can just shake somebodies hand while he introduces himself to plant a bomb.
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>>289338303
FUUUUUAAAAARRRRKKKKKK I KNEEL
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>>289339844
>>289339875
Here it go anons, I simply gave the campaign to an ai and ask for a summary.
I have to say it is a pretty good summary.

https://pastebin.com/e2Lq5JQe

What do you think? Are we getting ambushed? The dm is just fucking with us?
What do your hunter sense tell you?
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>>289338303
These images are like crack to me
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>>289339467
>>289339523
am I crazy I don't even see cammy in the map
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>>289339999
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>>289337732
>tyson
>tranny
???
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>>289340061
Top right corner. Ben's trio are moving in her direction.
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>>289339595
>>289339595
It all depends on if Furikov is reliable or not, and I don’t think he is. If he was the whole plan should have been discussed previously and this would have been a “this is all going according to plan” and not a “why did you betray me!!”
He’s probably made a weapon that kills Ben’s nen beast and if it’s like Furikov says and Ben will be transferred to his nen beast then Furikov will kill him there and he will be out of the contest.
But that’s a lot of speculation.
I just don’t trust Furikov on the curse either which I think is definitely bad information wether he knows it or not
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>>289340060
I love this one
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>>289340060
>Halkenburg is learning, or has learned whether or not he can prioritize himself in the soul-swap
>or he's spamming arrows until he gets his swap
>Balsamilco awakens
BalsaGODs our time is NOW
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Musse gets to live inside Cammy forever
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>>289339999
>>289339903
>>289339902
>>289339616
>>289338803
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>>289340103
MOMMYRENA
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>>289339999
Very handsome good guy

>>289339723
SOVL x SOVL
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>>289339824
>hunter x hunter rpg campaign
What system could even be used for this? Nen is such a specific system that I don't know if it can be easily replicated.
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>>289340060
Same
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>>289340125
Fvark
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>>289340087
That looks more like Hinrigh to me. Has his distinct hair tuft
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I am genuinely retarded, without the anime to explain, I can not understand 70% of what is going on. So this dude got poisoned by his follower, but the poison is also some Nen curse, and this dude has the ability to adapt to any form of ability and create an ability to counteract it, so the poison nen will be counteracted and he will gain an ability that will make him god? What the fuck is going on?
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Smart Camilla bros…is it really over already? Is Camilla really going to be one of the least fleshed out and relevant princes?
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>>289340142
>>289340060
>>289338272
Obsessed
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>>289340192
Are you actually reading the chapters or just reading the threads? Cause you’re mixing up some obvious stuff. I’m not saying Togashi writes in the clearest ways but some of the stuff you’re not getting is explicitly stated
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>>289340103
Holy mommy...
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>>289340041
I'm more interest in what you picked for your characters hatsu. I think any plot the DM has in mind would get immediately derailed by any decent manipulation ability.
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>>289340134
>What system could even be used for this?
It is a variation of "Rápido y fácil" which is a derivative of d20 that instead uses 3d10 and gets the median of the 3 values.
Most abilities like ten, ren, zetsu and gyo are simply bonus to specific actions.
The hatsus are more open to interpretation in a more narrative way.
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Tick tock spiderchuds...
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>>289339501
That's pretty cute, the only thing that makes Shizuku emote are vacuums.

>>289340142
>>289340060
They have this dash of DBZ/Sonic-tier autism that makes them enjoyable
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>>289340103
Morena lifting her buttcheek to let out a cute little braapy..
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God damn I can’t wait for the next chapter. Last time I felt this way we’re the chai tees where hnrigh and nobu were going after the hei-ly
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>>289340244
>I'm more interest in what you picked for your characters hatsu. I think any plot the DM has in mind would get immediately derailed by any decent manipulation ability.
We secretly rolled for our nen type and nobody disclosed their nen type yet.
I'm an enhancer with a versatile ability that could theoretically be used for investigation but forces my character to be on a state of Ren, so can't be used for prolonged actions.
The other characters I don't have any idea.
One of the characters "marked" another character with aura, no idea if that's a hatsu or a "creative" nen application.
Another character is a biologist and is trying to pull a trick with a species of moth that follow pheromones. There is a chance that he is a manipulator type.
But no idea.
Of course, if they had abilities useful for interrogation or coercion they already would have used them so my guess is that nobody is a manipulator that can use coercion on other character.
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Bit unexpected for this kind of story to take cues from HxH, but it worked out.
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Would be funny as hell if one of the Troupe got packed by Nasubi, one of the princes or even the mafia instead of CHADsoka
Cuckrollo would crash out even harder
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>>289340196
Honestly, I can't argue against the direction the plot is taking... But for that very reason, I can say that it's so incredibly obvious how things are supposed to proceed, that my only cope is that Togashi introduces an unexpected element that no one could have predicted and instantly changes the course of the plot.
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>>289340305
That batch was cathartic after the 4 year wait. I was getting scared HxH was gone forever between those chapters.
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>>289340089
Very fair, Furykov's expressions are also setting off big alarms for a case of manipulation.
I'm still not convinced beyond's nen curses are death oriented, despite what furykov and longhi say.

But putting aside the curse-doubt for a moment, if Beyond is as calculated and measured as he seems then he has undoubtedly thought of near every way his curses might be subverted.
Although a Prince's Soul transcending their body is pretty far out there, and it seems extremely unlikely that Beyond could account for this.
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>>289340216
It's too much fucking text, too many fucking characters, too many plotpoints, and one of the most complex magic systems in existence. I will attempt to summarize the succession arc from memory:

12 princes get on a boat to go to Dark Continent (I think they were the sponsors of the trip). Turns out the boat is a secret war for the princes to take the throne

Kurapika was hired to guard one of the princes, the baby, but his real motive is killing Tsun(something) prince who is a collector of Scarlet eyes.

Each prince gets an ability by a magic urn created by the king who died long ago.

Tsun whatever prince can experience a reality in which he dies, and avoid it.
This tough guy prince can analyze an ability, adapt to it and counterattack perfectly, but has to stay near the ability user.
One of the girl princes could make doors to anywhere, but died trying to escape
One of them has a giant cat beast that kills anyone who kills her, and returns her to life
A fat fuck prince has this gassy beast that makes roofy pheromones
One of the princes has an ability to mindswap.

I do not recall the other princes or their abilities at all.

Phantom troupe was there to kill Hisoka, but are getting involved in...something.

Hisoka is doing...is he even here? I dont remember him appearing.

Kurapika is teaching all the prince guards nen to cause a stalemate because if everyone knows nen they can protect themselves and bunker up till end of the boat trip.

The zodiacs are there to prevent Beyond Netero from escaping jail.

Beyond Netero is there as a prisoner for reasons I do not recall, but it was pretty clearly explained at the time. I think he just wants to tour the Dark Continent and did some illegal shit to make that trip happen.

Amidst all this, there's some weird fucking plot about a girl that plays cards with you, and if you lie or cheat she now owns you. This nen ability with cards also involves a levelling system, kill people to lvl up, lvl 21 becomes a leader
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>>289340116
If Ben loses it's Balsamilco's fault.
If Ben had just declared Martial Law immediately most of the Prince's would be dead by now.
But I also love Balsamilco and I hope Ben dies just so I can see all his soldiers scramble as they find new Prince's to support.

>>289340305
Keeping your Hatsu secret from the other players sounds like fun. I hope your Hatsu isn't just another "punch harder" ability like Gon, Phinks, Uvogin etc.
Were the odds of rolling specialist 1/3000?

>>289340398
>>289340305
The cliffhanger to them opening that door into the washing room was super hype. Too bad that entire infiltration was anticlimactic and went nowhere.
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>>289340041
this is a cool i wish i had friends to play this shit with. im no rihan though so id just be tardmaxxing enhancer-style
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>>289340353
source?
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>>289340335
cool
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>>289340192
we don't have complete information yet
>Furykov can analyze nen abilities
>Once analyzed, furykov can create the means to boost or counteract nen abilities
>if furykov dies, benjamin can inherit this ability
>Furykov was born with a nen curse that will target a prince, likely benjamin, when activated
>1st Queen Uma, one of the most powerful people on the ship, wants her other sons to win not benjamin
>she gave furykov the virus (made with science not nen) and orders to kill Benjamin
>So basically benajmin seemingly had no way out, its either the virus or the curst
>furykov has analyzed benjamin's guardian spirit beast and told him what it does, we the readers do not know what it does
>based on this information, he chose to infect him with the virus since the curse may destroy his guardian spirit beast.
>the plan is for benjamin to die to the virus, then furykov's curse somehow gets activated and the curse not having a target attacks furykov himself, and somehow this causes Benjamin's Guardian spirit beast to activate and make him stronger (and presumably alive again) in this process
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>>289340435
(2/2) that is all to say, I understood all the major plot points from like, an overview standpoint, but I do not understand how some things are happening. Like this chapter with the whole becoming God plot.
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>>289340437
>>289340335
>Keeping your Hatsu secret from the other players sounds like fun. I hope your Hatsu isn't just another "punch harder" ability like Gon, Phinks, Uvogin etc.
>Were the odds of rolling specialist 1/3000?
Linked to the wrong anon
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>>289340438
I don't have friends that play rpgs I'm playing on a spanish "play-by-post" site.
Aren't any sites to play rpgs for english speakers?
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>>289339895
Killua's got insane self-control
If I were him, my head would've been buried in that armpit, chugging it without coming up for air like I'm a thirsty african kid
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>>289340471
The entire chapter makes sense when you realize
>furykov used his power to tell Benjamin his GSB ability off screen prior to this situation
>Unma had a private conversation with Furykov about curse stuff with details that may or may not be true

Both of these are going to be expanded on more later and are going to be question marks until then
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>>289340448
It was from an image that featured list of authors who referenced or praised Togashi's works somebody posted in these threads years ago. I swore I had the full thing saved, but I can't find it anymore.
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>>289338488
Tserriednich's favorite arc would probably be Chimera Ant, and he'd break into applause alone in his room while watching this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsnlF_x4v8Y
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I really think furykov is lying or being manipulated, but this yaoi page would be cheap if he was.

The only scenario I can see is that Furykov WAS manipulated, but in a way where he didn’t lie to Benjamin
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>>289340480
> hope your Hatsu isn't just another "punch harder" ability like Gon, Phinks, Uvogin etc.
I already shared my hatsu in another thread.
But is basically a "flow / deep flow" style technique.
While being on a state of Ren you can enhance one specific action, for example lockpicking or fighting another character. Of course you can only do it with action you can do in the first place.
The flow version of the technique gives you a small bonus, but is safe to use.
The deep flow version of the techniques gives you a bigger bonus but it is more dangerous.
I'm restricted to 3 and 1 uses per day respectively.
So it gives my character a bit of versatility.

To be fair the ability is very restricted. I'm unironically hoping that I can punch my problems away with simple applications of ten and ren.
Our characters don't know any advanced technique yet, so no Ken, Ryu or Ko.
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>>289340526
The wound from Cammy's gunshot is still being shown prominently on his forehead. Meanwhile every other decent nen user can shrug off bullet wounds.
Perhaps being wounded by Cammy is the condition for her GSB to take control, but I feel that'd be contrived.
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>>289340526
This page is so weird looking, like both are supposed to sweating intensely
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Demechan! Suck the air out of Hisoka's lungs! And those of everyone in Hei-ly!
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>>289340471
My theory for Benjamin's GSB BASELINE ability is something like:
Conditions
-Be rightfully and lawfully recognized as King, be King
-have a legitimate heir to throne
remember Benjamin has legitimizing his Child on the mind right now
Affect:
-When Benjamin dies his GSB is passed down to his heir

With this in mind, the scheme seems to be to fuse GSB+B.Baton+Benjamin. Thus Benjamin becomes a transcendant GSB+ who will be continually passed onto and protect the future of generations of his bloodline.

Of course this is just a rough sketch, we'll see how things shake out.
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>>289340630
*clogs that vacuums mouth with bungee gum*
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>>289340438
>i wish i had friends to play this shit
It can be cool, but it's also a huge commitment. Having to go along people's schedules, story and character ideas, etc.
The worst of both worlds is having friends, but everybody's too lazy to play anything, and I'm too egocentric to go along with somebody else's plot anyways, so I just gotta make do by playing with myself. It can be fun for some board games when there's no narrative, but when it comes to campaign-style games, might as well just write a novel.
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>>289340575
Furykov looks off the entire chapter , like I know he’s supposed to be serious because he just got caught in the most dire situation but he looks like a god damn robot
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>>289340663
*She's 200 meters away*
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>>289340682
*plugs his own mouth and nose up with bungee gum then speed blitzes her?*
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Would killing someone in their sleep not awake their post mortem nen?
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>>289339878
crazy to think that togashi might end up publishing manga for WSJ in 6 different decades. an unparalleled feat for sure
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>>289340718
Is fair to assume that post mortem nen only activates if the user have strong emotions before dying, if it is a nen type curse the emotions against the target should be very strong and their attention should be concentrated in the target.
If post mortem nen fired randomly when a nen user dies it would be incredibly dumb.
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What is the point of nen-beasts that only exist to activate an ability according to their masters' will like Goreinu's gorillas or Tserriednich's logically coherent version of king crimson? The only reason I can think of for making an ability like that would be to have the nen beast pay the price of an undesirable restriction on an ability like having to be someone's slave, though doing something like that would seem to conflict with Goreinu's character.
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>>289340471
The god plot is a foreshadow for DC arc or latter in this arc, just like nen post-mortem was introduced in Yorkshin or Nanika was in the president arc
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>>289340630
>Demechan
>vacuum the Black Whale
>vacuum the ocean
>vacuum the continent
>vacuum space-time itself
GG
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>>289340711
What nose?
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>>289340718
Probably depends on the nen user. Gon and Killua trained with Biscuit to react to things in their sleep.
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>>289338567

That was a warning Nasubi gave as voyage preparations started. Why wouldn't Ben have whacked some of his more talented siblings years ago?
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>>289340744
My headcannon is that it is a soft restriction.
Instead of having an "at will" ability you are forcing your ability to have a nen manifestation.
If the ability have a nen manifestation it means it can be visually detected and also be targeted by counter type abilities, maybe even destroyed.
Remember that Razor destroyed one of the gorillas with his own emitted nen attack.
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>>289340744
They are jojo references
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>>289338649
I think aura control is a wall most hunters don't scale. They never find a master capable of power leveling them. Then it just takes so long, you don't become a master capable of battle tier aura control until you are in your 40s and by that time you are washed.
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>>289337350
Goreinu could take her
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>>289340818
Nasubi forbid it before the succession war too, Terrorsandwich coomed when Ben told him they could finally kill eachother
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How would I manifest an ability that summons a nen beats to fight for me? Even Tserriendich personal nen beast just seems to administer his ability , not fight
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>>289337590
It was nice while it lasted
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>>289340898
Lmao literally
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>>289340914
Be a conjurer and just envision a beast with its own autonomy
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>>289340914
Conjuration or emision. And some restrictions to make it stronger
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>>289340954
God Tserrienich is so evil and rapist coded
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>>289340914
A conjured nen beast would probably be stronger than an emitted nen beast just by virtue of being a materialized object with aura on top and having the con of being visible to non nen users.
On other other side an emitted nen beast is basically an aura construct, so if you can attack people with it like some Persona/Avatar the aura will deplet/get lost when attack or is attacked.
So you will need to constantly funnel aura to it.

My guess is that it is the weak point, you need to funnel your own aura to keep it going making you a vulnerable target.
Probably if you are an uber genius nen master with high aura output you can have a functional nen construct without having a nen defense made of paper yourself.

You could probably add vows and restrictions on top to make it stronger.
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>>289340914
Just conjure one
It's basically what Kastro did but he made his look like a doppelganger
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>>289340718
Depends on the conditions.
An important factor would be whether or not Zetsu is mandatory to the ability.
We've not seen a nen user who practices Zetsu WHILE sleeping as far as I know.
If we warrant a guess that Camilla's 'The Cat Who Lived a Million Lives' has Zetsu as a strict requirement for activation then it seems to me that were she killed in her sleep (in unconscious Ten, I must imagine) then her ability would NOT activate.

Being a royal for whom assassination is a very real threat(even before all this succession war business), a counteractive ability that fails if you're asleep would be laughably unwise.
More likely the requirement is simply her death, and Zetsu is just a means to make death (and thus activation) more likely.
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This whole chapter seems to blow some holes in the whole Tserriednich is Beyond's kid theories and has me questioning if it really is him. Why would Unma and Beyond create a situation where Benjamin would go on a rampage and try to kill everyone if their secret prince is still in tier 1 with minimal protection? We as the audience know he's gonna be alright because he's too important to get dropped now but where is Beyond's lifeline for his kid in this situation? Is he just counting on Tse to clutch up and survive anyway? Nobody is coming to help him from Beyond's faction right now.

I've sort of pivoted to Fugetsu over time and she makes sense as the logical choice for creating this specific situation. She is on tier 2 under the wing of the Justice Bureau, the same Justice Bureau who just passed information to Beyond last chapter. She's safely under their control in the event of martial law and by extension under Beyond's control.
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Are the curse babies one of the best strong nen examples? The way they’ve been discussed in the story they’re basically walking time bombs that will not fail once lit regardless of location
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>>289340969
Nigga all nen beasts are conjured
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>>289340967
I definitely expected him to take a stronger main villain role. But this feels like his training arc so far.
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>>289340983
That’s because you assume Unma and Beyond are on the exact same page. Unma wants Halkenburg to win. If you assume they’re working together completely, then it’s clear Halkenburg is beyond’s child. But that’s not it, is it? So Unma and beyond aren’t 100% on the same page.
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>>289341004
Goriung gorillaz and Razor devils are emitted nen beasts.
We are talking in general not the Kakin ritual nen beasts.
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>>289341011
Well he didn’t have nen, he was basically a useless cocky pseud before Kurapika announced nen. Now that Benjamin is going to force everyone to leave their rooms we’ll pivot to more important developments
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>>289341014
Netero Kanon is also an emitted nen construct as far as we know.>>289341004
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>>289340828
>>289340744
Maybe the toll of using the ability is offset to the nen beast.
So let's say a conjuror has to pay effort tax of 50 points to teleport, since teleportation is a emitter ability. If they teleport 20 times in a fight that's 1000 combined points of effort.
So instead, they create a nen beast that takes 100 concentration points to summon, and after being summoned requires 1 point of concentration every 6 seconds to keep active. However, the beast acts almost like an external computer, and computes most of the effort needed each teleport. Each teleport with the beast summoned on requires 10 points of effort, rather than the 50 it would require without the beast.
Now, that 20 teleports in a single fight only equals an additional 200 points, assuming you can keep paying the tax required to keep the beast manifested.
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>>289340983
I lowkey think Beyond is pulling a Ging Greed Island attitude in that his mindset towards to his child's survival is:
"My child will not die here!"
Just holding faith in his child, and in fate.
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>>289341014
>>289341030
>source: trust me bro
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>>289341014
Yeah, they're conjured
Where was it ever said they were emitted? Did you just assume that because Razor is an emitter?
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I find it hilarious that Benjamin would’ve played room assassinations the entire boat ride if not for Halkenburg. There’s a real chance Benjamin wins if not for Halkenburg.
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>>289340515
managed to find it in the archives, but apparently even this is outdated and more have come to light since. and i guess i remembered wrong, because the yagakimi bit isn't in this pic.
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>>289341014
This is a bad take, they conjured their nen constructs then used emission to give them properties. The gorillas got teleportation, and the devils stored Razor's aura.
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>>289341051
>>289341051
I though it was common knowledge that a nen construct can be conjured or emitted, and you have nen beasts/spirits that are emited things, not conjured.
That explain Razor devils and Netero Kanon without being a really dumb decision.
Of course you can show me any source that explicitly states that the devils, the gorilaz and the Kanon are conjured instead of emitted, or that emitters can't produce nen beasts.
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>>289340741
STRONG EMOTIONS!?
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>>289341051
Unfortunately, far too many hxh readers think that leveraging nen proficiency OUTSIDE of your affinity is impossible
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Cammy made a sexist remark
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>>289338537
Saw this in my timeline. I really should be rereading this arc.
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>>289337704
Let's just say he's done a flawless job at hiding his power level.
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>>289341063
Halkenburg took out 4 of Benjamin's men including his right hand man Balsamilco. Kurapika took out one and Cammy another.
Safe to say he's been a major pain in Ben's balls.
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>>289341066
I think ONE intensely studies Togashi's methods and art, you can tell he idolizes Togashi and it comes through in his works.
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>>289341114
Poor siblings will never get to know each other
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What ugly woman did Benjamin breed with?
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>>289341097
Anon, you are taking the nen tree way too literally. Especially in a case like Netero where he is a supreme nen master who categories have lost all meaning.
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>>289341138
He fucked Oito's sister.
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>>289341066
Kubo was trolling Gege so hard in that interview.
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>>289341097
Here are your emitted Razor devils bro
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>>289340413
Exactly on beyond, I think this whole “my curse kills me if I don’t do x!” Is too simple for what Beyond will be attempting to do.
The curse could be similar to halkenburgs arrow and would some how allow either beyond or a bearer to swap places to effectively have them take their spot in the SW. it could simply compel the bearer to do something at some point.
For all we know it’s not even a “curse” and beyond is just walking around as like 20 different people
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>>289337287
>the thinks Togashi is going to kill one of the princes he actually gave some thought in one chapter
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Readers often assume that there are both conjured and emitted nen beasts and the main difference between the two is that one is visible and the other isn't, but Kurapika and Bill treat both visible and invisible beasts as being conjured, with the actual difference being risk and reward/energy usage. Also, a reminder that despite Kurapika's chain being conjured, he can hide it with In.
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>>289341244
He didn’t give much thought for Camilla though. Shes a spoiled BITCH who needs a man in her life. Nothing important about her.
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>>289341155
This, a nen user like Netero, a determined enhancer with a high volume of aura, of course he leverage his 60% conjuring to summon a big statute with NO SPECIAL RULES.
The closest thing to a 'special rule' with guanyin is Zero Hand changing the summon location.

Anyone who thinks an enhancer with 60% conjuring proficiency is INCAPABLE of summoning a large statue is illiterate.

Anons need to stop thinking of 60% as if it's 10%
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>>289341244
I love that picture
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>>289341208
Eh the curse has to be pretty nuts if it can kill Ben's post mortem GSB

Swapping doesn't seem like it would kill a GSB. Compelling might if its like, lobotomy tier Compelling
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>>289341271
The statue is emmited end of story
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Slander Genthru all you want but he is the only true 'heel' in HxH which is refreshing in its own way. All other villains are cool, misguided or have a tragic past that makes the endearing and the fanbase love them. Don't you want a villain that you can truly despise and not feel sympathy for and not think they are cool or badass?
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>>289341244
Nobody thought Youpi would go out like this
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>>289341288
The point is that it’s almost to hard to speculate with the specific interaction because Furikov is so unreliable
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>>289341271
>>289341207
>>289341207
Hmmm fair enough.
I still think that it would make more sense for Kannon to be an emitted thing given properties with transmutation for simple nen afinity.
I don't see the point of it being a conjured nen construct.

I think that emitted entities should be able to exist. Of course if Togashi comes out and says that all nen spirits are always conjured there you go.
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>>289341301
But Genthru is cool. He’s a video game troll. Reminds me of when me and my friends would ruin peoples Minecraft worlds for shits and giggles. Genthru played the game the right way.
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>>289337404
>teleportation.
why is this not the domain of conjuration?
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>>289341301
The one true heel
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Any new jokes or memes? , like that one where the nen skil of the guy is overthinking.
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>>289341330
You should read also this >>289341252
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>>289341310
I hope Furykov is lying too. An ability that kills the cursed, then uses that death to kill a cursed target so completely they can't even use their post mortem nen? Its just too strong of an ability.
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>watch American youtuber reviewing the newest chapter
>compares Benjamin to Trump
yeah I'm thinking kino
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>>289341301
I like him BECAUSE he's cool and badass. But yes, part of his appeal is that he has no deep tragic motive like the other guys. He's like Hisoka and Tserriednich. He isn't doing it because his daddy didn't love him or because his friend got chopped up in the woods. He's just having a good time, man.
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The emitter vs conjuration nen beast debate only exists because the nen chart is poorly arranged.
Emission should swap places with manipulation on the chart, and specialization should be in the center as a unique thing.
Almost all conjuration utilizes emission. In fact, I'd say that conjuration and emission is inherently linked, as conjuring something almost inherently creates something external to yourself.
The only conjuration techniques in the series that don't require emission are the weird shapeshifting abilities, like that mafia retard that could turn his hand into tools.

Manipulation and enhancement also make more sense being next to each other. Enhancement is about imbuing your body with nen to strengthen and control it, and manipulation is often just enhancement of something external.
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>>289341332
Genthru deserved to die
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>>289341370
MKGA
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>>289341388
He deserved to die for playing the game? Maybe ging should’ve made conditional nen island rules that don’t allow killing
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>>289341405
It's funny how the guys calling GI a death game were completely right lol
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>>289341004
Anon you're touching upon a sore spot. HxH fans have brain damage and headcanonned emitted nen beasts into existence because of the Kastro fight. Despite being utter nonsense this is a thing many western fans believe, just like Pitou being male.
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>Furykov had just poisoned Benjamin about 1 hour before this moment
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>>289341475
Why is Babimyna such an unsociable jerk?
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>>289341404
>BRO I'M TOTALLY GOING TO OVERCOME TO SYSTEM AND BECOME THE NEW SYSTEM BY USING THE OLD SYSTEM RULES!
He is BEYOND fucked.
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>>289341475
This is huge because it means benjamin did NOT know of Furikovs power before being infected. Which to me, means he was placed there to 100% guarentee Benjamins death.
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>>289341375
The Boma was just an old school asshole villain. A bit of a strange choice for Togashi who usually writes villains with a lot of depth. It was cool to see mad lad Gon wipe the smirk off his face back in the day though
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>>289341506
Not in the Nen class but being placed as one of Benjamin’s guards
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>>289341382
>The emitter vs conjuration nen beast debate only exists
It should never have existed in the first place. To this day, I still don't know how people see the description, the core meaning of emitter (separating aura from the body) and think "oh yeah, with this I can build beasts, constructs and basically everything that conjuration does too".
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Could it catch Cammy's nen cat?
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>>289341464
I think the wiki is a part of the problem, they list a bunch of unconfirmed nen types for every character's abilities
People who want a quick refresher without rereading the manga look it up and just assume it's correct
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I only watched the anime is this arc worth reading?
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>>289341464
In my defense I read some parts of the manga so long ago that it is hard to stay on the current trends of the fandom. I genuinely thought that emitted nen beasts were not a rare take.
And to be fair they are "canon" in the sense that Morel deep purple and Shachmono 11 black children are emitted nen constructs that are used inside a receptacle that gives them the physical properties they lack. Also they both are given basic orders.
So for example Netero Kanon, can absolutely be a nen construct that use Emission and Transmutation to be able to punch at a distance, which even makes more sense for his nen mastery. Conjuring a statue makes no sense because it gives no benefit.
But I get your point that non conjurers can use average levels of conjuration and make sense that nen mansters take advantage of that.
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>>289341506
it's just banter, dude
Benjamin didn't actually tell Babimyna that Furykov needs to take nen 101
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>>289341382
No. Conjuration is creating something outside of yourself. Emission is projecting your aura. Its two different concepts. Transmutation is closer to conjuration because ontologically a conjured object is simply a transmuted nen that is separate from your body.

Emission is far away from this because your projected aura hasn't had its properties changed yet. Its just aura you shoot from yourself that is in various forms. Enhancer is between Emission and Transmutation because ontologically to transmute your aura you have to enhance its ephemeral property in some way.
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>>289337287
Looks like each tier of the ship will have its own plot

lower tiers = mafia vs phantom troupe

mid tier zodiacs holding the line

higher tier hisoka chrollo princes
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>>289340983
There's speedies who legitimely think Sneedrich came out of Beyond's nutsack.
>B-But he's le talented and cuh-cuhrazy like Netero!
He just hyperfixates and autistically locks in, it's not a Netero trademark.
>B-B-But he's doing le Netero pose?!?
Misdirection, every reader sees Tserri absolutely killing it with nen training, he's a talent that comes once per generation, so you're expected to think he had to be Beyond's cum produce, when the last thing Beyond wants is an offspring who's nen capable in their own right, he wants a puppet sovereign to manhandle, and establish a base of operations away from V5's influence and close to the DC so he can go find the One Piece.
>Tserriednich is Duazul's son.
>Halkenbug is Unma's son.
They swapped the little fuckers, and you'd never expect it because Duazul is such an outwardly passive queen, yet she only sires hellspawn. The nose of Halkenburg was a dead giveaway, it's the same way around for Tserriednich.
>Then which prince is Beyond's son?
Likely a younger prince, someone he can easily groom over time, and set up with their handler mother to manage the kingdom in Beyond's place while they come of age. Like Marayam.
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>>289341503
Damn right he is
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>>289341526
Strong nen says he gets rekted in the same way he got rekted by Halkenbur.
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>>289341301
I do not want that, no. Besides, Genthru is rad as hell. Took me a while to warm up to him, but thematically, he worked well for the purposes of Greed Island.
I wish he and his pals had a few more characterization scenes, and that Sub and Bara had their own hatsu, I will concede that, but what we got was by no means lackluster.
Wanting to beat Gon without his ability due to pride, but being mature enough to swallow it, and admit the kid's strong, when it's clear Gon's mental forttitude is something he has to respect and break down? That alone is commendable.
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>>289341598
Feel like zodiacs will be minor characters
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>>289341013
I'm not 100% sure if they're even working together at all
Unma could have just uncovered Beyond's conspiracy and used it to bluff Furykov into doing what she wanted
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>>289340154
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HxH has exactly one emitted nen-beast: Zeno's dragon head. Notice that it looks nothing like an conjured construct. You cannot substitute emission and conjuration. The very concept is retarded.
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I wonder if Fugetsu inherited her father's insatiable libido
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>>289341709
That's why she's going nuts and behaving like an addict. Kacho pussy withdrawal is too much to bear.
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>>289341703
Also Morel deep purple and Shachmono 11 black children.
Conceptually is lame that you can't have aura constructs that look cool without being materialized objects thou.
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>>289341665
I get the feeling Togashi only cares about Mizaistom and Cheadle of the bunch. The rest are just background characters.
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>>289341665
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looks like it indeed
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I really thought that this whale boat thing was going to be a quick thing but I feel is getting too convoluted. I want things to start paying off, like Togashi is too much of a complexity junkie.

I was fine whatever, I get it, this is your other, other antichrist devil victim complex guy, whatever, like who cares?!, we got a villain already, he was called the spider. Like can we go back to that.

Stop adding and star concluding. I don't care about Kakin anymore, these people deserve each other.

Let's go back to Gin, and the hunters....
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>>289341382
Conjuration and Manipulation need to be close together because there's no point in summoning some complex beast and being unable to control its actions very well, it's Jojo.
Emission for the most part is about ranged attacks and long lasting status effects.
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>>289341758
>really thought that this whale boat thing was going to be a quick
Bru, wtf
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>>289341734
Poor girl.
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Leave Hisoka to me.
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>>289341758
Mutherfucker we haven’t seen Ging in 11 years. You won’t see him for the rest of your life probably because this manga won’t make it past the new continent
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>>289341703
Yeah, it should be possible to make simple beast-like constructs using emission with transmutation and manipulation, but complex structures probably require conjuration.
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>>289341765
>Emission for the most part is about ranged attacks
Excep that now is the nen that rules over spatial relationships, teleportation and some level of prescience and conceptual things like punching "truths" out from somebody.
Which would make sense, as Palm and enhancer was able to produce some limited scrying, which will make sense as an emitter ability.
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>>289341758
I feel like this
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>>289341738
Both of those require a complicated creation process with physical objects as a medium (Shachomono needs balloons) + manipulation. Emission cannot create something like Potclean, which fans believed for the longest time.
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>>289341618
>Tserriednich is Duazul's son
I believe that's the case, but has it ever been confirmed ?
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Cookie's cookies
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>>289341758
> I really thought that this whale boat thing was going to be a quick thing
How? I feel like a lot of readers really don’t get Togashi. The second 14 princes with 10+ bodyguards each were introduced should’ve gave you the idea this arc would be as long or longer than the Ant arc
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>>289341758
Seems like shit is finally hitting the fan thanks to martial law so we might have reached the halfway point?
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>>289341775
they all will do post morten vow or shit like gon... just fucking lol at those phantom fags
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>>289341803
>Both of those require a complicated creation process with physical objects
Of course this begs the question of "how much conjuration and how much emission".
If nen + ballon is enough to have a nen automaton.
Then you could technically produce something with 10% or less conjuration and 90% emission.
Of course it depends on the complexity of what are you making.
If it is a puppet that should only punch things it should be enough.
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>>289341738
The 11 Niglets needed to fill physical humanoid suits like balloons and then be manipulated to function, so it's kind of a good exmaple of emissions limits here
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>>289341382
>as conjuring something almost inherently creates something external to yourself
I understand where you're coming from but I believe the key difference is this:
Nen/aura that is emitted and separated from the body can be thought of like a flame requiring fuel. A small or large amount of aura will eventually burn itself out. Conditions and abilities can of course affect or subvert this, with enough work.
I believe, generally, a nen user can, bluetooth style, continue to add to and fuel the emitted nen. This is either, I imagine, an inherent capability or one that is facilitated via vows and conditions.
Whereas Conjurers generally pay an upfront amount of aura and this aura then BECOMES physical matter. At this point the conjured subject is no longer a free-form portion of aura burning itself out. It is a physical object that need not be continually fueled because the aura cost is paid and done.

Of course, many of the things I've mentioned can changed via vows and conditions but that in and of itself does not invalidate the baseline behaviour.
e.g. though, like I said above, a conjured object does not strictly require a continuous flow of nen as fuel, a nen user may choose, as a restriction, to willing conjure an object that requires fuel/payment beyond the initial upfront aura cost.
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>>289341823
I'm happy that a bunch of psychopathic mas murderers are getting their shit rekt by a bigger psychopath mas murderer.
It's their karma, they absolutely deserve it.
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>>289341583
Conjured objects disappear when the nen-user is killed or knocked out. They're not some created thing that exists independently of the original user aura or will.
Let's say somebody used 50% emission and 50% transmutation to create a ball of aura that looks and behaves like an ordinary beach ball. This emitted ball would function identically to a beach ball created by conjuration. This is why emission and transmutation should flank conjuration on the nen chart.
I'll admit I'm wrong if you can explain to me how a 50% emitted / transmuted beach ball would function differently to a conjured beach ball. Also, your explanation must be something that can be extrapolated beyond that specific example.

And don't tell me "a conjured beach ball would be visible to non-nen users" as if this makes a difference, as most nen-beasts are conjured and yet are invisible to normies. Whether or not something conjured can be seen by normies is an additional restriction that can be added to a conjured object to boost it's power, and it's not a property unique to conjuration.

>>289341521
>the core meaning of emitter (separating aura from the body)
Constructs are made of aura and separated from the body. It's hard to think of a construct ability that doesn't overlap with emission.

>>289341542
It's the most "Hunter x Hunter" arc of all HxH. The things that make HxH unique among anime and manga are exaggerated to an absurd degree in this arc.
So if HxH is your favourite anime this will be your favourite arc, but if you think HxH is worse than Once Piece then you'll likely hate this arc. It's divisive.
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>>289341818
Sexy nen legs
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>>289337287
>
BISKE MOGS HISOKA

SHE APPLY HER LOTION AND BECAME IMUNE TO BUNGEE GUM SINCE IT WILL NOT STICK

BISKY CAN ALSO USE LOTIONS TO DISOLVE THE GUM

THEN ALL BISKY NEED TO DO IS OBLITERATE HISOKACHAD

GIGACOUNTER
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>>289341835
>Of course this begs the question of "how much conjuration and how much emission".
Wtf it doesn't, they are 90% manipulation abilities with some emission
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>>289341818
Cookies could help Fuugesu
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>>289341846
>Whereas Conjurers generally pay an upfront amount of aura and this aura then BECOMES physical matter. At this point the conjured subject is no longer a free-form portion of aura burning itself out. It is a physical object that need not be continually fueled because the aura cost is paid and done.

To be fair aura burning out of the body is a nebulous thing.
We know that Gon and Killua were able to detect mastercrafted objects because those were impregnated with aura.
And we can assume that those were like historical objects and not things crafted yesterday.
So the aura stayed on those objects for very long time.
Maybe you can add aura to an object and will not burn itself out without interacting with other things.
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4 days until cammy gets BTFO
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>>289341876
>Wtf it doesn't, they are 90% manipulation abilities with some emission
I'm saying that if you can use a defalted ballon + aura, then you can conjure the deflated balloon yourself without too much conjuration mastery.
Anon please.
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>>289341819
> I feel like a lot of readers really don’t get Togashi.
This is how I used to feel seeing the “30 more chapters bro trust Me” takes a couple years ago. I would get genuinely confused how they were processing the plot so wide-off.
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Cummy in Cammy.
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All conjured objects need to use emission to empower them with nen. However, that only becomes an issue if you want to recharge them from far away. If you touch them then it's trivial and the bad compatibility does not matter.
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>>289341900
she'd get addicted to cookies
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I fucking hate Bisky. She has so much plot armor so you know Maryam won’t die
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>>289338488
Of course this guy would be a weeb, perfect moral alignment.
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>>289342000
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>>289341947
> Be transmuter
> Master enhancement an conjuration
> Probably also emission
> Create with your aura a spa girl
> Free massage
> Free cream bath
> You will get one night of sleep in a few hours
> No healing abilities
WHY!?
The enhancement of natural healing abilities was right there on the fucking chart.
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>>289340795
kek
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>>289341947
Me too
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>>289342000
ANULO MUFA
I like Bisky
Don't want her dying
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>>289342028
Is Vergei handsome enough for her? Maybe she can finally scratch the itch
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>>289342049
At her age she can't be pic
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>>289339140
This killed me.
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So is stuff like Rihan targeting tubeppa dropped now after martial law?
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>>289342000
Saquelle...
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>>289341855
Emitted nen given beach ball properties via transmutation would look different (it would look like glowing aura). It needs a physical outer shell like a balloon/paper to act as a medium to look the same.
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>>289342068
Welcome back
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>>289342070
her stand keeps hiding whenever it sees one of ben's boys he's better off elsewhere
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>>289342065
As it should be
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>>289342044
I originally thought Bisky was influenced by Genkai but Genkai actually had stakes. Bisky is just a botan variant. Annoying bitch played for comedy and you know will always come through any situation fine.
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Why hasn't he done a single thing so far despite being on par with the top 3 princes
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>>289342049
he just needs to bulk up a bit. bisky seems to like muscular dudes
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>>289342070
He's still assigned to Tubeppa right now, but most likely getting deployed to help with Marayam because there is 0.1% chance a single soldier is getting past Bisky + Hanzo + the other guards Bisky trained
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>>289342110
Hold your Luzurus stonks.
Going to the moon after Benjamin, Halkneberg and Cammy kill each other in a very comedic way.
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>>289341905
Yes, there are many reasons why aura might 'linger' to an object.
port-mortem shenanigans is one.
Whether an object is the product of Conjuration and/or was subject to Manipulation is another factor not entirely sure how to wrestle with as of this very second.
I'll repeat: I believe that it is the nature of pure aura to burn out and fade. It is through vows and conditions that this natural behaviour can altered or subverted.

I won't pretend I'm an infallible expert.
The idea of 'trace nen' is also bouncing around in my head. Being an amount of aura that is so faint, so unsubstantial, it is akin to aura 'fingerprint'. Not flowing with aura necessarily but rather a trace imbuement. Maybe something like Ben's Knives, ordinary objects wrought by craftsman unaware of their awakening to nen.
Just an aside. A throwaway thought.
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>>289341920
I don't understand to what end. To me it seems like you are forgetting about things like In, Ko, Gyo and Zetsu. If you are a manipulator, then conjuring a balloon is like.... giving away most of your advantages of manipulating a balloon
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>>289342106
>I originally thought Bisky was influenced by Genkai
How? She's Lisa Lisa mixed with Roshi. I think Togashi went out of his way to not reuse Genkai.
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>>289342000
How do you know she has plot armor? She has never done anything dangerous.
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>>289342110
If Heil-Ly is going to kill one of the princes it's almost guaranteed to be him
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>>289342132
There’s is definitely some young Genkai in Machi. And some very slight Toguro in Hisoka.
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Strong Baby Nen?!
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If Biscuit volunteered to go with Abengane she could have defeated Genthru before he blew up the others. But she didn't feel like it.
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>>289342131
So you never run out of balloons. See: Nobunaga knowing how to conjure a sword.
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Bisky is currently the strongest nen user on the boat and it's not even close

She probably mogs even beyond since beyond got bodied by the dark continent
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>>289342163
it's been stated many times that most high level hunters are selfish assholes
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>>289342110
He's going to be the most immediately dangerous prince in the game after Benjamin takes out Camilla and then proceeds to die and Tserri's guards are still able to barely hold him back.
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>>289341765
I see what you're saying, but I disagree. Manipulation should only be when you're manipulating something physical. When you control your own aura, that shouldn't count as manipulation, but instead it should just seen as basic aura control.
For example, moving you aura from one hand to the next isn't manipulation. Moving your aura outside your body isn't manipulation, it's emission. Therefore, should moving around a limb made out of aura really count as manipulation? Is this skill of moving nen into the shape of a limb really that different than moving the limb itself?

>>289341846
I get what your saying, but I still don't agree.
>Whereas Conjurers generally pay an upfront amount of aura and this aura then BECOMES physical matter.
If this was truly the difference between conjuration and emission, the conjuration would be visible to normies and emission would not. However, we know this isn't the case, as GSB's are conjured yet invisible to non-nen users. Also, Kurapika's chains are invisible to non-nen users by default, but he chooses to keep them visible to trick people into thinking the chains are physical chains that are being manipulated (as explain in the Uvo fight).
So the distinction between physical objects and aura objects still exists even within conjuration, and conjured objects only appear physical as a deliberate feature of some techniques. In this case, conjuration is no different to emission.

The "bluetooth" distinction is also something I don't necessarily agree with, as this would mean that seemingly all nen-beasts are emitted and not conjured, as they require constant upkeep from the users, like the GSB's. Another example is Biscuit's nen-beast, and given that she's a natural transmuter it would make sense for her to conjure her nen-beast rather than emit it.
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>>289342110
Luzurus exists so that Borksen can get 50 points for killing a prince.
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>>289342174
She's not even good enough to compete with Zodiacs. gtfo dumbass.
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>>289342174
not so fast
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>>289342174
Bisky hasn’t been on the dark content, she gets mogged by beyond
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>>289341938
>All conjured objects need to use emission
Shizuku, Bonolebov, Abengane, Kurapika, Kite, Cheetu, Tsubone (and probably others that I don't remember) want to say something.
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>>289342186
kek
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>>289342174
Jobs to Woble(fake(male)) I'm afraid.
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>>289342174
Beyond no, but the rest... Yeah more or less
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>>289342174
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>>289342131
The argument goes something like this.

"You can have a nen construct with emission"
I was told
"No, see for example 11 black children are emitted but need real physical balloons".
Then I said.
"Then I can use really low level conjuration to materialize the balloins and fill them with emitted aura, achieving a nen automaton with 5-10% conjuration and 90-95% emission".

Basically.
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>>289342190
Biscuit is one step below netero because she his student
Netero is on par with zeno if not above
So bisky should be on par with silva who is Zeno's son and student

If Silva was on the ship he would be the strongest nen user
Thus bisky is the strongest nen user
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>>289342200
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>>289342192
>>289342174
Would be super cool to watch all 3 standing on the rest of the ship like nothing happened to them, like they're above regular humans completely while everyone else is looking like scared cats
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>>289342331
>Netero is on par with zeno if not above
even zeno disagrees
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>>289342084
>Emitted nen given beach ball properties via transmutation would look different (it would look like glowing aura).
Maybe. I think that's mostly aesthetic, and a 50/50 emission/transmutation beach ball would function the same as a conjured ball in every other way, which couldn't be said about an enhanced or manipulated beach ball.
It's hard to think of examples of emitted things that don't glow without bringing up nen-beasts, which just circles back to original argument about whether nen-beasts are emitted or conjured to begin with.
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>>289342174
>O my Skill Hunter
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>>289342174
ENTER
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>>289342331
Netero is way above Zeno
Do you think he wouldn't instantly delete Chrollo in Yorknew if he felt like it?
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>>289342348
only zoldyck who may have been on par with netero are zigg/maha.
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>>289341521
I interpreted emission as aura blasts like Franklin's nen bullets, Gon's paper, Yusuke Yurimeshi's spirit gun, ect
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>>289341271
Honestly one of my biggest peeves with the nen system is the -20% for each category away. It's a bit too small of a decrement for something a system that's supposed to punish people who don't focus their main nen type, like Kastro. Something like -25% would be better, but that might be too unfair for conjurers who also need emission when separating their conjured objects from their body.
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>>289341855
>I'll admit I'm wrong if you can explain to me how a 50% emitted / transmuted beach ball would function differently to a conjured beach ball.
The most obvious answer is range. There is some limit on the range with emission and huge limit to range with transmutation. Where conjured object seemingly have no range restriction

The other difference is Emission abilities are very obviously nen abilities, while transmutation can sometimes be sneeky, it isn't, but conjuration can pass as a normal object. Kortopi was just cracked though. And if texture surprise is conjuration or transmutation is debatable.
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>>289342374
Bisky is probably on par with netero when he reached his peak before he ascended to God hood by punching
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>>289342374
Why did Togashi draw her slit?
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It's obviously bait why are people feeding this idiot the attention his parents refused to give him?
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>>289341382

I've always thought specialization should have been a category called "resonance" (hannou-kei in Japanese). This would be for psychic-type powers that deal purely with information. Skill Hunter, Neon's fortunes, Pakunoda's bullets would all go here. It wouldn't cover Emperor Time but it's a bullshit cheesy power anyway. Tserri's power could be a super-form of resonance where his perception actually alters the flow of time.
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Why do we assume beyond is strong?
Maybe he's just lucky. Seems to be desu.
It's not like anyone thinks he has some kind of crazy nen or killer energy
Everyone seems to just treat him like a nut case
And it's not like he made any notable achievements except just being at a place and also having sex
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>>289342383
There's also teleporting punches that the pirate boxer and Leorio use
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>>289342438
just the fact netero himself is worried about it and asking the zodiac for doing the job is a good enouhg reason

not to mention more than 50 years of planing for this whole purpose
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>>289342384
It's supposed to be worse than that.
You are level capped and your effectiveness with the skill is worse.
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>>289342403
because he's based
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>>289342403
for the same reason he drew creepshots of Fuufuu
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>>289342317
Machi will kill Hisoka
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>>289342480
ERM... That's my job...
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>>289342403
He's a Japanese man... he has needs.
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>>289342488
I like to believe all those pins in his body are to change the appearance and he's actually a woman.
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>>289342392
>The most obvious answer is range. There is some limit on the range with emission
This might have been true before the current arc but teleportation is now emission based, and teleportation hatsu can have ridiculous ranges.

I generally agree about Conjured objects being able to pass for real things whereas emitted objects cannot,
HOWEVER, there are many conjured objects that don't pass for real things, like Hakoware's APR, which is always (?) depicted with a distinct aura glow. And Razor's nen beast are emitted, yet they don't glow.
But debating that point is tough because we'll just end up arguing over whether something is glowing or not, or whether a technique uses conjuration or not.
I still think emission should be next to conjuring on the nen chart.
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>>289342427
>I've always thought specialization should have been a category called "resonance" (hannou-kei in Japanese). This would be for psychic-type powers that deal purely with information. Skill Hunter, Neon's fortunes, Pakunoda's bullets would all go here. It wouldn't cover Emperor Time but it's a bullshit cheesy power anyway. Tserri's power could be a super-form of resonance where his perception actually alters the flow of time.
Not all specialist abilities include some type of telepathy.

It seems that the nen category that rule over some form of telepathy is emission.

Lynch is an emitter with an ability that allows her to "punch the truth out of her target".
Palm is an enhancer with an ability that gives her some form of limited scrying. Which would make sense if emission allows that sort of things
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>>289342480
with her ass
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Woody
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>>289342403
He has taste
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>>289342330
>"Then I can use really low level conjuration to materialize the balloins and fill them with emitted aura, achieving a nen automaton with 5-10% conjuration and 90-95% emission".
??????
I literally don't understand. Conjuration isn't some replacement for manipulation. Nor is emission really. Razor, Goreinu and Balloon Guy controlled their constructs / puppets differently. To me you are comparing apples to bricks
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>>289342182
>conjuration would be visible to normies and emission would not
I believe this is unequivocally the case.
>GSB's are conjured yet invisible to non-nen users
Kurapika specifically goes out of his way to address this. I'd have to look at the chapter again but he suggests the payment for invisibility with GSBs is an increased parasitic burden on the princes, if I recall correctly.
>kurapika's chains are invisible to non-nen users by default
I'm gonna need a MASSIVE source & fact check on this. This cannot be true. I think you may have a fundamental misunderstanding of Conjuration, no offence.
>bluetooth
>GSB constant upkeep
GSBs have a fundamental difference in that the princes are NOT the direct creators. They are examples of parasitic nen, and among the vows and conditions that characterizes parasitic nen is the principle of 'feeding' off the target's aura. This is independent and regardless of the target's capability or willingness to consciously supply or not supply aura.
When I mention the 'bluetooth' like fueling of aura, and the idea that a conjured object does not STRICTLY require such refueling by default(upfront cost), I also acknowledge that this default can affected by vows and conditions. Thus, a beast, an object, or other, may, via vows and conditions require a constant supply of nen AND still be conjured.

Also the fact that GSBs feed off nen is part of the risk and reward. A weak vessel will easily fatigue due to GSB activity.
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>>289342529
Are we getting who is Silent Majority user this batch finally?
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Beyond's child, future ruler of Kakin.
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>>289342544
Dude what I'm saying is very simply.
I'm explaining how to make a nen construct with the most limited amount of conjuration used in the process possible.
11 dark children is an emitter ability that use empty balloons to produce nen automatons.
I'm just saying that you can use a little of conjuration to materialize the balloons, so you can have a nen automaton with less than 10% conjuration and almost pure emission, similar to the 11 dark children.
Please read it again if you don't understand if not it's okey let's just drop the argument altogether.
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>>289342527
Machikoto...
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>>289342551
>>289342182

>kurapika's chains are invisible to non-nen users by default
>I'm gonna need a MASSIVE source & fact check on this. This cannot be true.
It is not true.
Kurapika materialized chains are visible to non nen users.
He can use In on the chains to make them invisible thou, both to nen users and normal people.
Also there is no real reason for Kurapika to have his chains materialized 24x7. He explicitly states that he does it to make people believe he could be a manipulator instead of a conjurer.
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I find it funny how togashi has to explicitly mention where leorio is on the ship because everyone would just forget he's even part of this entire story arc since he hasn't even had a single line of dialogue in almost 100 chapters and nobody has even mentioned him at all

Isn't he supposed to be best friends with kurapika by the way? And kurapika never even sought him out for help
>Hey my best friend leorio is here. Maybe he can help defend this baby
Lmao

Did Kuwabara ever get this level of disrespect in yu yu hakusho?
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>>289342569
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>>289342403
subtle art
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>>289342438
I wonder if Beyond is the kind of guy to have a completely non-combat nen ability and when he does get into a conflict he just relies on raw aura + stats
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>>289342600
Leorio is in good company though. He doesn't deserve this SW shitshow.
Let him hang out with the zodiac girls
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>>289342544
all hatsu are "limited by X category"

limited by the user skill

Hisoka for example can't throw gum beyond 10 meters because he is bad at emiting

But obivously there are some massive flaws in the system, for example saying that Goreinu hatsu is emssion + manipulation when he literly summons 2 gorilas

or even zeno being transmutation when all he does is emiting aura then even togashi retcon to emission type

and some stuff like that...
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I need the succession war, DC exploration & meteor city arc to end asap so togashi finally gets to work on his yaoi sports manga
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>>289342509
I don't remember if this is actually stated, but I think he stabs himself to charge them with aura
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>>289342174
Nah the top two is
Beyond
Pyon (rabbit zodiac)
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>>289342600
Kurapika knows Leorio is busy with his own shit
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>>289342620
You can have more than one ability, especially if you are a very experienced Nen-user.
That's why The Predator is shit. SHIIIT!
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>>289342600
why did togashi think we need to know where the level 1 heil-ly goon was lol
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>>289342625
Main character btw
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>>289342620
>I wonder if Beyond is the kind of guy to have a completely non-combat nen ability and when he does get into a conflict he just relies on raw aura + stats
Considering that normal humans can have ridiculously high non-nen stats in HxH world, it is a very solid strategy.
Design an utility hatsu for transportation / intelligence and go full retarded with raw aura punching people in the face.
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>>289342649
>Sits around playing as a nurse under a dog girl
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>>289342670
Doing his thing
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>>289342695
OUR HERO
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>>289342687
Considering his goal is becoming an amazing doctor that can cure people for free I'd say helping out a top tier disease hunter is pretty important for him
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>>289342701
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>>289342516
>teleportation hatsu can have ridiculous ranges.
This has nothing to do with a nen vollyball, I don't understand the point you are trying to make again. Emitted abilities have long ranges too but conjured objects have infinite range

The other stuff is confusing me also, what does Crazy Slots have to do with Gallery Fake being undetectable?

Its like you are making things pointlessly obfuscated
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>>289342711
>MY FRIEND GON IS IN TROUBLE. IM GOING TO GO AGAINST MY FAMILY TO USE MY WISH GIVING SISTER(male) TO SAVE HIM

>Huh... Killua is in a life and death situation in a battle royale
>Erm sorry bro. I got school and stuff. I gotta wank it to some dog girls bro. Some other time ok?
Our HERO
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>>289342720
Leoiros arc will be in the DC with Ging, pariston, Beyond, and Cheadle. At togahsissies pace, sadly that will never come to be though.
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>>289342660
I'm half expecting this chick to stab the winning prince in the back at the end of this arc.
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>>289342687
When will Leorio finally surgically restructure his face
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cammy's so fucked
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>>289342785
You just know
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>>289342785
He already has boar like hair, it's fine.
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>>289342761
it's odd that she's content with chilling at lvl 1 while everyone else is putting in work
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>>289342687
Leorio fucks that dog
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Oh, didn't know HxH (JoJo edition) was back. Was there an announcement on how many chapters before the next break?
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>>289342551
>>289342593
I just found the page where Kurapika is talking about the nen-beasts, and you're totally right that conjured objects are visible by default, but are made invisible with an additional cost. Emission is presumably the opposite (invisible by default).
So a beach ball made from 50% emission and 50% transmutation would be invisible to normies, unlike a conjured beach ball.
Fair enough, I concede, you got me.
I still think specialization is bullshit and manipulation should be next to enhancement, but I digress.

>>289342734
>Its like you are making things pointlessly obfuscated
I'm running on limited sleep so I'm probably rambling. Best to end it here I think.
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>>289342818
If she bombs a lot of people would that count or does it have to be with her own hands?
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>>289340954
>Ben says he wanted to torture Tse until he begged for death
>it's the very thing that disgusts him the most
Such utter contempt and loathing, lmao
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>>289342575
Maybe Im just tired ill look at this again tomorrow and see if the point makes any more sense

It just seems like you're adding conjuration to an manipulation + emission ability for no reason
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>>289342825
10 chapters at worse, 20 at best
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>>289342840
feels like anything goes. it'd be pretty unfair if genthru was a heil-ly goon but wouldn't get any credit for his bomb kills
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Pitou sex
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>>289342791
trust the plan
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>>289342931
Zhang's plan?
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what did tserri do to piss off big ben?
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>>289342946
hold and wait for the market to get bullish before dumping all his zhangcoins and fuck off to tier 2
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>>289342948
He got mogged
Ben can't even see his own nen beast yet meanwhile tserri already has two nen beasts
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>>289342948
Considering how autistic Tserriednich was in the military academy, they may've had some rivalry and falling out around that time. Tserriednich also probably sees Benjamin as a meathead, while the latter sees him as pretentious or something, even though they're both pretty involved in the stuff they care about.
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>>289342955
only to get borked
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All these years on a boat have made me forget pretty much everything. What's the end goal of the overall plot? Is there even a set goal or anything anymore?
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>>289338092
Man that sent me on a wild ride, I think I understand Tserriednich a little more with his body horror shit, it is truly art.

>>289338207
Honestly I'd get freaked out trying to imagine a nen beast that's always hanging around me, I'd rather not know at that point. But if anyone should know, it's him, he'd likely approve.
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>>289343018
Just have fun bro
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>>289342989
None of the princes can see their own beasts
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>>289343013
Imagine a threesome between them
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>nobody got cursed
>she has yet to use her nen beast
>we don't know how she managed to create such a broken ability
cammy got this in the bag
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>>289343018
Gon is trying to become king of the hunters
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>>289343084
>categories: corruption, dubious consent, extreme french kissing, femdom, mind break, yuri
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>>289337287
why is this weekly now? is this normal? He'll finish before he dies at this rate
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a face only kakin can love
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>>289343084
might not have to imagine it with the way it's going
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We're getting Kurapika nen classes 1 hour before Martial law in next chapter btw
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>>289343086
>we don't know how she managed to create such a broken ability

It has extreme enough condition.
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>>289340086
Tse calls Tyson a man in his first appearance.
Tyson talks about being a disappointment to her moth for being "born this way" and knew her mother didn't expect children from her.
One of the bodyguards makes a remark about how they've earned favor with the prince and asked if they should "expand for later". This is translated as "spread the news" by Viz, but the Japanese terminology is closer to the way one would refer to expanding/dilating one's ass when training for anal and the innuendo just went over the translator's head (which the translator herself even acknowledges).
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>>289343157
Netero-sama...
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>>289342374
Do you think biskey could tank just tank bullets in her loli form without even using nen?
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>>289343051
Tse getting excited over nen is very moe
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>>289342948
Probably just make fun of him.
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>>289337704
He is the Welfin of this arc, trust me.
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>>289343259
Uvogin tanked a bazooka with his hand and he's like 1/10th as strong as bisky
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>>289339501
Next week she dies tho
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>>289342031
Don't need healing when you never get hurt due to STRONG NEN
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>>289343296
ENHANCER CHADS
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>>289342031
Speeding up recovery from training is essentially a form of healing, it's still enhancement
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>>289343383
average conjurer
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>>289343086
>she has a nen exorcist
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>>289343449
Why the hell did someone edit out the art?

>>289343167
BORQT! MORENYA! SO MANY CUTE GIRLS!!!
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>>289343383
>4 enhancers, 3 dead, 1 nenless
>1 specialist. Victorious, ruling.
Disdain for plebs.
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>>289340983
It can't be Fuugetsu cause she has a freaking twin.
It's Marayam. Accept that already.
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>>289343491
it was originally released without the art. and it's more epic that way
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>>289342946
HODL
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New thread >>289343341
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>>289343184
>Tse calls Tyson a man in his first appearance.
huh?
Did Tse ever even acknowledge Tyson?
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>>289343499
>BRING ME SEIKO.
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Why is the curse rebound concept literally the same as Silent Majority's
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>>289337355
Cringe and nonsense
>>289337379
Based and canon
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>>289341252
Read that again. It doesn't say what you think it does. They're not saying "these snakes are conjured and coincidentally they're visible to everyone", they're consistently conflating the two.

>but they say it's the same thing with different approaches
They do not. They say they're both nen, and so the universal rules of risks and restrictions apply.
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>>289343554
yes, called Tyson an example of overreaching vanity
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>>289337287
>Next week
I think she's already dead, based on what Ben says in chapters 410 and 413.
His first priority is to kill Camilla and Tse, and then go legitimize martial law. And we saw him in the flashforward trying to legitimize martial law, stating that Zhang Lei and Luzurus are unaccounted for and there's four princes left.
Camilla is dead. Next chapter is just seeing how he countered her ability.
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>>289343695
Oh, I see it now, it was a few chapters after his first appearance
Still, that might just be a mistranslation based on the male-sounding name
I'm not sure if he actually calls Tyson a man in the raws since Japanese uses gendered identifiers a lot less than most languages
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>>289343689
The misconception is that conjured creatures are visible to normal people and emitted ones are only visible to nen users, Kurapika is explicitly saying that if you don't use energy to hide a nen beast it's going to be visible to everyone by default.
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>>289343869
>Kurapika is explicitly saying that if you don't use energy to hide a nen beast it's going to be visible to everyone by default.
That goes against the entire logic of the series to date though. I think panel 4 has to be improperly translated because it's been proven time and time again, normal people just cannot see aura. Unless the parasites are conjured no extra energy would be needed at all.
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>>289342785
I'm not a furry but I'd make out with her
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>>289343621
>wants Kurapika to get fucked by a giant horse
I always said Kurapika fags were weird.
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>>289341114
>>289341131
Put together like this, you can really tell they have the same nose.
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>>289338488
>>289340525
Yeahh he would be into the philosophy.
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>>289339140
Mythical specialist lool
Tbf specialists are the mythical zoan of HxH.



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