Cammy 5D chess tomorrow
>>289376466Cammy is stupid and I want her to die soon
Next week, the boat IQ increases.
>>289376508When Ben dies of diarrhea
>>289376466I think that I personally would be very well suited to being Cammy’s masseur
Zushi bros...
>>289376466shes not gonna die, her nen beast hasnt done shit yet. Realistically I think this upcoming encounter with ben we will finally see it do something and she will somehow escape.
>>289376739A possible scenario is that they detain her and try to figure out how to kill her while hunting down the rest of the princes. Which is why Ben regards her as one of the princes who has been dealt with.But in the end Ben will die before disposing of Cammy.
>>289376731Pitou strong
>>289376466
>>289376466She will have passionate sex with Benjamin before they die together as even Nasubi's weird ass frowned on sibling incest
>>289376868Not strong enough to beat the cock
>>289376606That's in 2 weeks not next week.
>>289376731Chrollo > Hisoka
>>289376868They don't make cats like this anymore.
>>289376843Ben specifically said to his officers to leave Camilla And Tser to him. He wouldn't consider her "dealt with" while leaving her to his officers
>>289376731>Kurapika - Nen 2No wonder he's always waving that gun around these days
>>289376731>>289377244WEAK NEN??
>>289377143But we only have confirmation that he'll immediately kill Tser. With Cammy it's still possible he'll just subdue her and have a plan in place to kill her, but it won't be immediate.It could be poisoning or even tossing her off the boat.There is no confirmation yet that he'll just walk in and dispose of Cammy immediately
ewwwwwwww someone made a stinky in Ben's room
>>289376731Komugibros we won!
>>289376466rank these characters in levels of strength/ nen proficiency
What's even the point of conjuring as an afinity when emitters can do the same shit with a bit of manipulation?
>>289377370If they did an arm wrestling contest the finale would be dogman vs machi
>>289376731Hisoka is a talentchad, but Kuroro still beats him because he's mindmaxxing
>>289376731Bisky is impressive
>>289377423an emitter couldn't do half the bullshit hinrigh is doing or fool normal people like kortopi did.
>>2893772681. He only talks about gathering 6 princes. With Camilla and Tser he plans to perform a “safety check”2. Before heading to her finds out her ability. He already knew she's either counter or invincible type and can be easily restrained (like she was before). So the only reason to confirm her exact ability is to kill her
>>289377423>this is what peak conjuration looks like
>>289377607Obviously he wants to kill her but killing her might not be as simple of a process as walking in and shooting her in the head. It's very possible that he'll detain her first and take her to some place where he plans to dispose of her. But this is what will buy her enough time to survive
All these waifufag posting and NOBODY post Zushi
>>289377370>kite/morel levelizunavipikahanzo>knuckle/shoot levelmachidogmannobu>leorio levelhinrighshizukubashobill
>>289377370you know who solos almost every character in that list?
reminder that nen, like gender, is a spectrum and nen types are social constructions
He did it, boys. Togashi finally broke the record :')Now he's going to kill them.
Leave Kakin to me.
>>289377268>>289377715ben is a short sighted idiot. So is Cammy but we havnt seen her do anything yet. Ben is in a rush and the pressure is on for him to win the war before he fuses with his beast. Realistically after securing the justice bureau, he will fail to kill both tserri and camilla. He might even fail to gain complete control of the justice bureau depending on whatever kaisers final stronghold is
>>289377910crazy how there isn't a single pure emitter that isn't a complete BEAST. The SUPERIOR and BEST category obviously.
>>289377916
>>289377916Who had the record before this?
>>289377798
>>289377933really want to see him steal the treasures and inadvertently help kurapika by ending the war. Especially if he has no idea kurapika is there . The way the arc is structured its unlikely they will meet face to face but i like the idea of the phantom troupe helping kurapika without realizing it.
>>289377957me
>>289377957Togashi wanted to beat Captain Tsubasa's record with 70 named characters in a single arc.
>>289378004IT WAS YOU!?
>>289377949>Get easiest access to things like teleportation and sending aura long distance>Get 2nd best affinity with enhancement which means you can still output quite a lot of aura>Get 2nd best affinity with manipulation so you can have agile and cunning nen beasts>Still be good enough with transmutation to make crazy stuff like Photons>Also get access to esoteric stuff like absorbing aura to bolster your ownPure emitters are just built differently.
>>289378052yeas...
I will never understand autists who so fervently argue about their interpretation of nen and nen abilities when nen is just a device Togashi uses for the story he wants to tell and he can just retcon it at will. Remember when Emperor Time was a unique specialist ability for Kurapika, and it was implied that specialists are subject to the same hexagon placement as all other types, but then literally last batch Morena through all that out the window and said that specialists can basically do whatever they want? Halfway through the Chimera Ant arc, Togashi just kinda stops explaining nen abilities and what categories they fall under. Ikalgo is an enhancer because whatever. For all we know, next chapter Ging will show up and tell everyone that nen types are just arbitrary classifications and you can do whatever you want with nen if you try hard enough. Nen is literally magic, and made up fictional bullshit too. It isn't going to follow consistent and logical rules.
>>289378086>remember when [headcanon]
>>289376731Pitou = Pouf > (You)pi
>>289378086>and it was implied that specialists are subject to the same hexagon placement as all other typesIzunavi only said specialists were placed on the hexagon based on the odds of becoming one later in life. Kurapika being built around his affinity as a conjurer doesn't contradict this or later information.
>>289378086But can Kurapika use 100 % of 100 % like Toguro?
>>289377715>killing her might not be as simple of a process as walking in and shooting her in the headHe already knew that. That's why he didn't put off figuring out her exact ability for later after capturing her. He's already in too much hurry to postpone killing the most dangerous opponent from his perspective. He wanted to savor killing Tser more than anything and he can't spend time even on that. As for how he plans to kill her I think he'll figure out on the spot since her ability is not that complicated. My immediate guess was for him to use TSK-17 he's readied in his boot, but that would kill Camilla only after his own death unless it's a more fast-acting version which is unlikely. So I don't know exactly how, but he'll do it
>>289377423emitters cant create anything like gallery fake or hinrighs ability or crazy slots or silent majority
Next week, they'll all die
Silent Majority is emitted btw
>>289378073I trust you
>>289378051Thanks for reminding me that I need to read the Serie C arc and finish Rising Sun
>>289378165I don't remember what Silent Majority is anymore
>>289378086>Halfway through the Chimera Ant arc, Togashi just kinda stops explaining nen abilities and what categories they fall under. Ikalgo is an enhancer because whatever.That is because at that point togashi assumes the reader knows enough about nen to piece together what abilities are using what. Clearly he was wrong in your case >but then literally last batch Morena through all that out the window and said that specialists can basically do whatever they wantMorena dosnt say that. She says specialists either have unique abilities or abilities that are hybrids of different nen types. Someone like the 4th prince is the first, and morena herself is the later. Then she says each specialist has a different relationship with the other nen types. For example Kurapika has 100 in every type but we know chrollos enhancement is super weak. Chrollo often uses conjuration and manipulation abilities cuz he prob has higher synergy with those. Because Morena describes her hatsu as a hybrid of all 5 types. its likely shes more like kurapika and has a even spread (prob not 100 in each tho). Each specialist basically has a nen chart unique to them. It doesn't contradict anything.
>>289378244https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDaKPPmDSIE
>>289378134> My immediate guess was for him to use TSK-17 he's readied in his boot, but that would kill Camilla only after his own death unless it's a more fast-acting version which is unlikelySome anons theorized that if you die before you kill Camilla then she won't be able to revive herself.
>>289377428>the finale would be dogman vs machiHanzo is a Transmuter, right?He'd mog Machi. Final would be Dogman vs Hanzo.
I COME FROM THE FUTUREChrollo's post mortem Nen allows his book to remain even after his death, making it usable to anyone, not just him. The book will initially be entrusted to Machi and then given to Gon.
>>289378298>chrollos enhancement is super weakSource?
Bork
>>289378405giving gon the book would be cruel
Bo-kusen
>90% enhancing and transmission >70% emissions and conjurationsSome of you really overstate how good specialists are
>>289378298>but we know chrollos enhancement is super weakHe kinda 2v1 the zoldycks and 1v1 Hisoka in physical combat without being completely outmachedSo this is a big hmmm
>>289378348Yeah, but he can't die before killing all the princes and formally becoming a king to make his son a successor.
>>289378086>but then literally last batch Morena through all that out the window and said that specialists can basically do whatever they want?Specialists can choose how they distribute their efficiencies, but they can't have 100% on everything. They specialize their Nen towards a specific application. Which is why Morena talked about them "wasting" their potential.>Ikalgo is an enhancer because whateverIkalgo was listed as an Enhancer in that chart, but that's utterly illogical for what was shown in the series. Supplementary material sits far below in the hierarchy of canon. We should simply ignore nonsense of that kind.
>>289378418he fights with a bens knife and say his enhancement is to weak to block a direct attack from zeno. When he fights hisoka he keeps his distance cuz he knows hisokas way stronger and he has never once used a stolen enhancer ability.
>>289378405Chrollo's post mortem nen will lobotomize troupe into hive mind so each spider limb will walk even without the head
>>289378453He literally says in that fight hes to weak in enhancement to block a direct attack from zeno and he fights with a knife cuz he cant harm them with his bare hands. he spends the whole fight running from hisoka and attacking from a distance. Only striking when he creates a perfect opening.
>>289378443<3
>>289378492Would Nobunaga sword be infused with postmortem nen like the mastercrafted artifacts?Think about it. He is a nen user, probably master level, and he uses his sword over and over. He probably cut with it dozens of nen users and hundred of people.It should be like Guts drangonslayer sword in Berserk.Killing Nobunaga and taking the QWELL LOOT sounds like fun.
>>289378484The knife was to paralyze them and steal their abilties
>>289378528Nobunaga is a joke character
>>289377808Hinrigh being slept on bro got Golden Experience
>>289378544He is Netero's bastard son.Trust the plan.
>>289376466>tomorrowits thrusday not tomorrow
>>289376731Tserri would be a Talent 6, right?
When do we get leaks?
>>289378572Could Hinrigh turn an object into a Chimera ant, not the humanoid ones but the little ones that bit Killua, that had to be dispatched by a rifle?
>>289378528But there's a catch, his post mortem nen trapped his soul into the blade and makes it so that anyone who wields it becomes a jobber
>>289378572Speaking of stands, would Gold Experience Requiem essentially be a conjurer becoming a specialist
>>289378602bro thursday
>>289378602Wednesday night or Thursday morning in US timezones
>>289377370I want to see Izunavi fight and kick ass
>>289378443Volkswagen
>>289378483ikalgo slips into the corpse and enhances its nen output, allowing him to access their abilities. Then he uses his chimera ant body to pilot the corpse from the inside. Its not that far fetched. Its a unique application of enchancment for sure but i like that not every enhancer hatsu is just punch harder. Similar thing with palm enhancing her eyesight. The ants were able to make strange hatsus because of the way they fused nen with their chimera ant powers. Similar thing with youpi
>>289378572Hinrigh could kill most people on the ship with exception of people with haxx like Tserriednich or Camilla,as long as he has enough poison/explosives to turn into small critters.
>>289378644But nothing about Enhancement lets you use the target's ability.Ikalgo is a Manipulator. At most with a touch of Specialization.
>>289376731Bisky sama... I KNEEL
>>289378539thats only half true, and you ignored my other points so go figure
>>289378671>Hinrigh could kill most people on the ship with exception of people with haxx like Tserriednich or Camilla,as long as he has enough poison/explosives to turn into small crittersHinrigh can kill literally any character by turning a Miniature Rose into an animal.It's boring but what can you do?
>>289378168Chances she's a surviving member of Killua's clan or one of their descendants that left to the outside world?
I would job to Zushi
>>289378687Yeah but access to a miniature rose is hard to get, at least I would hope so, normal poison and explosives would be easier/realistic.
>>289378644>allowing him to access their abilities.> Its not that far fetched.LMAO LOL
My drunk uncle could beat zushi to dead
>>289378674>headcannon
Ikalgo enhances the leftover Nen in a freshly dead body and uses his natural octopus inclination to control it.
>>289378634>>289378638Sank you :]
>>289378701Sukuna...>>289378713Yuuji...
>>289378709>>289378644>>289378722Guys I figured it out. He's enhancing his natural ability as an octopus to mimic others, this fits into his character arc of hating how he was born and wanting to be someone else.
>>289378674I think Ikalgo is a case of "using nen to enhance the weird biology of the chimera ant".That's the only way it makes sense.In the similar way that chimera ants adapt while eating genetic material, that's not a nen ability is a special characteristic of the chimera ants.
Are you your own subject, Anon? Take a moment to think it over before answering.
>>289378572Hinrigh himself admitted he gets mopped by the troupe, I already did him favours by putting him above shitzuku
Can I get a different toy with my happy meal
>>289378713drunken fist techniquethe more drunk you are the stronger your nen becomes
>>289378762he just knows being humble makes him less likely to get jobbed
>>289378769Did I miss something? How did this turn into a meme?
>>289378761I want to kiss her with tongue
>>289378528Nobunaga probably can do nen sword like Gons scissors and it'd be pretty powerful still, but having a real sword is just way better since he can fortify the shit out of it with nen
Who Is Beyond 'son
>>289378808(You)
>>289378797How does the troupe travel around unmolested now that all their faces were revealed by the fake corpses?
>>289378786>How did this turn into a meme?Wasn't us
>>289378808Me.
>>289378808Nasubi
>>289378808Tyson
>>289378823York New mafia is probably not connected to the Kakin mafia.Not all mafias are global spanning organizations.
>>289378687>Miniature RoseNo,since Roses are rare and hard to get especially for somebody like Hinrigh but he could snuck something similiar to TSK-17 but less deadly as small animal.Otherwise I don't see him taking out any troupe member.
Clowncucks have finally grown silent
Clown total supremacy SOON
BRING ME HISOKA HEAD
just kissdamn
>>289378823How did silva kill troupe member
>>289378859aren't they internationally known though? Wouldn't the pictures be on the internet?
Will we see her again this batch? I miss her.
>>289378913He probably used his balls
>>289378923She lost all her aura with her outfit during the card game
>>289378713>>289378775>Nen contract where you sacrifice your liver for nen>Loss of accuracy from alcohol is already restriction
>>289378808Nobunaga...is Beyonds biological brother
Enhancers are the strongest.
I emit conjured shit.
>>289378929>ballsTwo MASSIVE balls to be specific.
>>289378959>Dies to a superior Enhancer
any togashi scholar has any link where I can download or read Level-E in decent quality?
>>289378769Do you want your happy meal emitted, transmuted or conjured?
>>289378825lol
>>289378986I don't think Level E ever got an official English release, so I have never seen good quality scans of it.
>>289378984>Hand blade Do you guys think surface area matters for Nen piercing? Like if Phinks puts the same amount of Gyo on a fist, its harder to push through? If so, why doesn't every Enhancer use a sword?
>>289378769Will Franklin finish his burgers before Zhang figures out his coins?
>>289379040With a punch, instead of piercing him, he would splatter him everywhere probably.>why doesn't every Enhancer use a sword?You still have to put aura on them to be effective.
>>289379040>If so, why doesn't every Enhancer use a sword?From a meta point of view, as the author you want different abilities that look cool.From an in universe perspective, nen is a personal thing that is related to emotions, idiosyncrasies and natural abilities. If you don't like swords, you never used swords and you always fought in hand to hand combat trying to use nen in a sword instead of your fists is probably inefficient.
>>289378930Her flat pancake ass and cargo jeans deflated her hype like a beach ball
Cummy
>>289379006I found it on mangafire but it might be a fan translation, still, good enough for me. I remember watching the anime many years ago and always wanted to read it in manga version too.
>>289379092Machi will kill Hisoka
>>289379088>>289379078Let me clarify. Gon and Killua use Shu on shovels to dig through rock easier. But what is easier, Shu on shovels, or digging with their bare hands covered in aura? Its gotta be the shovel right? Base material durability, and the shape of the weapon, makes it easier to pierce through things compared to going unga bunga with your fists.
>>289379040>Do you guys think surface area matters for Nen piercing?Obviously.
>>289379040>If so, why doesn't every Enhancer use a sword?Why every enchancers use boring punches when they could instead enchance their bodies into body horror like The thing?
best nen ability
>>289379163>when they could instead enchance their bodies into body horror like The thing?Holy kino idea. The only reason why it wouldn't work is because humans are not simply ready to become monsters, having additional arms and legs is extremely weird. I don't see that ability working well unless they have a semi-epiphany moment like Gon schizoing out against Pitou where they want to become full fledged monsters.I wonder how much rejecting your humanity would be worth in Nen terms>I decided to become an ugly abomination to power up my ability
>>289379133Yeah, but we don't know for example how much of their aura pool are they spending compared to enhancing their fists.Also we are comparing shu vs... What? Ten? Ken?Remember than advanced techniques like Ken and Ryu combine Ten with Ren, and Ren is basically generating/expulsing more aura.What I'm trying to say is that maybe, for somebody who have the idiosyncrasy of hand to hand combat the CEILING of how much aura you can output in your fists vs a sword is probably higher.Also we are only talking about personal idiosyncrasies and combat style, we didn't even talk about nen type.Emitters for example have an easy time with En, I'm not sure who have an easier time with shu.That's the only rationalization i can come up with desu.My guess is that, if you personal identity involves fighting with your fists, you spend less aura and you can output more aura than what you can do with a sword.
>>289379149Thats just Gyo, or Ko, Chrollo is talking about aura offense vs. defense here. I'm wondering whether Zeno's hand shape has a tactical use, or is just his preferred style. But if it is tactical, again, why don't more enhancers have at least a knife that they can cover in Shu?
>Kurapika was based on T.M. Revolution>He has a song called HEART OF SWORDDare I say: KINO??https://youtu.be/NFxSCSGxCjQ?si=GcJ9Ct1xskV3FUnm
>>289379206I like this answer actually, it makes sense.
>>289378674Why can't it be that Ikalgo is an Enhancer who made ineffecient manipulation hatsu for corpses, and inefficient conjuration hatsu for his flea sniper rifle? Fits his character of wishing he was something else and not wanting to kill. He gimped himself like Kastro, only not as severely.People are looking this the wrong way, assuming everyone always makes the power most suited to them. Many do, but some just fuck up and he clearly does.
>>289379210How to get a cool idea for a character:>listen to random music>read to random books>watch random moviesIt's that easy??????
>>289379181one of my favourite abilities in Hxh. Hopefully he got an hair transplant after this
>>289379232Yeah another anon also suggested this in an earlier thread, it fits.
There's no way Benchadmin becomes a god only to immediately end up in the book, right?
>>289379232I don't even think Living Dead Dolls is bad for Ikalgo despite using a category he's inefficient with. . He certainly gets more use out of it than Kastro got out of his own doppelganger. And that's another enhancer dipping into conjuration and manipulation. Same with his pistol arm, it works for him and gives him a weapon at close range and he also benefits from the utility of hijacking someone's body and stealing their powers. Good nen abilities are more than just using what you are 100% with. A lot of readers forget this and laser focus only on min-maxing
>>289379244Don't forget video games.
>>289379267Wait, if Benjamin becomes a Nen beast, can Chrollo even steal him? How does a sentient, sapient Hatsu even work, does he just become mind controlled to be subservient to him?
Post Hunter x Hunter inspirations and references. I'll start:>KurapikaT.M. Revolution>HisokaKefka Palazzo>ChrolloHyde
>>289379311
>>289379323kino
>>289379323On that note, I'm convinced Halkenburg was inspired by Carlsen.
>>289379267why is chrollo so fucking cool?
>>289379311Everyone knows Meruem was inspired by Cell, but few make the connection with the Royal Guards and the Androids.
GuysI don't think Zushi will survive this arc
>>289379421And speaking ot the Royal Guards:
Where is the chart anon
>>289379302>can Chrollo even steal him?Most likely not. The thing about the guardian spirit beasts is that they are the nen of an ancestral king and Chrollo requires the hand of the original user as part of his theft as well as verbal feedback on the ability to be stolen. Since that guy is long dead Chrollo would never meet conditions.
>>289379441no way
>>289377910The nen chart if it actually made sense. Don't @ at me
>>289379522> Netero speciallollmao
The guy who believes in emitted nen beasts is a troll, right? Nobody is that stupid.
Let’s say you’re on a boat and Morena convinced you—how would you reach level 21?How would you like to experience your first murder?
>>289376731b-but muh 1-in-10k...
>>289379279>Terra: Enhancer>Locke: Emitter>Edgar: Manipulator>Sabin: Emitter>Cyan: Enhancer>Gau: Enhancer>Celes: Conjurer>Shadow: Specialist>Setzer: Transmuter>Relm: Conjurer>Strago: Transmuter>Mog: Manipulator>Umaro: Enhancer
>>289379522>Knov at Conjuration>Knuckle at EmissionBeyond Based.That said, Chrollo, Pakunoda and Pitou are definitely between Manipulation and Conjuration.Think about all the abilities they have ever used.
>>289378792She's been raped 100000000 times btw, enjoy your herpes
>>289377656How does this shit work? Like, where does her real body go?
>>289379553I'd just grind away in the processing facility taking whatever gets portal-fed to me, and If I don't reach level 21 I'll simply shrug, and think to myself that I did everything that was asked of my and console myself in the knowledge that I took no agency in our failure.
>>289376731BRING ME KURAPIKA
>>289379632Uvogin... Pfft? Not on my level.
>>289379553I kill the real Woble and instantly jump to 50
>>289379553Only sane thing to do would be to farm kills in the processing plant until I achieve a hatsu and go on from there. Only reason someone like Luini made an obvious move was because he wanted to gauge the military's response time.
>>289379616What do you mean?That's her body.
>>289379522Most retarded chart I've seen, and I've seen several.
>>289379616That is her body. Conjuration manifests aura into matter, but you can use your own body, or something else's, as the basis for that new matter as part of your ability.
>>289377916That's it?
>>289379698Name them all right now
>>289376731Gon has surprisingly low talent compared to a lot of characters
>>289379720What do you mean? Gon has 5 on Talent. Read the chart again.
>>289379732Oh yeah, I was looking at the int column
>>289379274His sniper rifle is especially inefficient since it would be far better to use emitted bullets rather than conjured ones. Not everyone uses efficient nen abilities, and that's fine. The wikitards focus way too much on minmaxing.
>>289379744The human Rammot must've been retarded originally
>>289379689Using that logic a conjurer could touch his enemy and turn him into a statue, insta-winning just like a manipulator can. Why does nobody do that?
>>289379605shes not the real morena prudo, shes a "flesh" slave that took control of the real morenas body, and morena died in her place. I doubt shes ever kissed anyone in morenas body besides her own subordinates.
>>289379522Never cook again
>>289379782Conjurers are all autistic, so they'd rather make esoteric bullshit.
>>289379820The current Morena is a man, by the way.
>>289379782We've only seen one conjuration that can do anything close to this and it was Convert Hands. So whether or not someone could petrify their opponent with a touch is kind of unknown and unexplored. It's possible that doing something like that would also require some kind of equivalent exchange, like having to be touching rocks with one hand so you swap out the flesh with them.
>>289379852This image reminds me, has anyone else seen this one edit of Chrollo's sun and moon into "cope and seethe"? I judt can't find it.
>>289379782Because living beings, and especially Nen users, have homeostasis, and resist being altered or controlled.Screamfags are retarded.
>>289379605I already have herpes, along with 1/4'th of all adults in the US
>>289379870Gain.
>>289379852>It's possible that doing something like that would also require some kind of equivalent exchangeAn extremely heavy requirement.
>>289379870>>289379882Don't forget about this one.
>>289379782highrigh and the hand weapon guy both conjurer different things by using something else as a base, its already canon. But it comes with strict conditions. weapon man can only use his hand, hinrigh has to touch the object first and theres a time limit. For a ability like this you would need to balance it out with something like"can only use it on one person at a time" and "statue mode only lasts 10 minutes" and "target must meet x y z to activate" basically its possible but a ability that strong would need at least 3 strong conditions.
>>289376868
>>289379820The girl we see in the flashback looks the same though. So maybe she just assumed the identity.
>>289376731How is Netero the only one with 5 intelligence?
>>289379920Pouf too
>>289379920Pouf was also.Netero also had 110 years of experience, with a mind that did not deteriorate.But don't take supplementary material all that seriously.
>>289379871This is wrong btw, if the conditions are met, Fun Fun Cloth and Hotel Rafflesia can shrink you regardless of how much aura you have, APR can put you into Zetsu if you go broke, even if you have x10 more aura than Knuckle, and if a Manipulator pierces you with their antenna or needle, you fall under their control, you can't just resist it using dragonball z logic.
>Conjuration ability: Magic Hand>I can turn any person I touch into a rabbit for the next 5 minutesI then crush the rabbit and instantly kill my enemy. GG.
>>289379901shes presumably half siblings with the real morena and the rest of the royal bastards so some level of resemblance makes sense. Maybe she has a ability to body jump but only with other 2nd track fackers. Otherwise I dont see how "morena" could steal the real morenas identity without anyone noticing, especially considering the real one is dead in her place. Its most likely nen but anything could happen.
>>289379979What if you can't catch the rabbit
>>289379965>Fun Fun ClothVery underrated ability
>>289376466Cammy is Kami
>>289379979Thats not enough conditions, maybe if you conjured a tophat, and put them into it, it would work.
>>289380014I mean they could've just been similar looking due to being siblings
>>289379901>kakin royals scar the faces of bastard babies>you get the exact same scar regardless of whether you're the kind of bastard who's eligible to be a mafia don or just a nameless sex slaveSeems like an oversight in the system.
Manipulation hatsu: Sex MachineAnyone I kiss becomes infatuated with me and wants to fuck me, this ends until they taste my cum>Enhamcnent hatsu: Horse CumThose who taste my cum receive a boost in power and feel a stronger sense of loyalty towards me
>>289376731Kurapika is ranked rather low despite many people complaining that he's a Gary Stu.
Imagine if bro's blood came with the holy trinity: HIV, Hep B, and syphilisTruly the forbidden Nen ability
>>289379979Unless you were born with Tserriednich level potential or a Royal Nen Beast, you'd never have the power to pull it off
>>289380061And Goku is a low potential Sayian.
>>289380038unless they were identical twins that got sorted differently, one as a mobster one as a slave, this is super unlikely. You cant just steal someones life and identity cuz you happen to look similar. Even if your completely identical it would take a lot.
>>289380025Yeah its the best one out of the Shadow Beasts, why were they such jobbers anyway?
>>289379965>Fun Fun Cloth and Hotel Rafflesia can shrink you regardless of how much aura you have,headcanonthe correct answer is that we don't know and we are all speculating
>>289380061because random bullshit Ben charts ultimately don't matter compared to manga material where kurapika is a top tier nen user, a zodiac, a mafia boss and the scourge of the phantom troupe
>>289380092Lmao this is the schizo from last thread, he's still mad. I like that you started using my insult like a good boy.
>only 5 left princes alive 40 minutes into the martial lawThat means 6 princes where fucking killedWhich ones are fucking dead? My guess is that Tse is one of the "dead", but he isn't really dead. Camy is 100% gone.
Bisky's transformation is a specialist ability. Conjured transformations have time limits, so it can't be that.
All nen is just transmutation:>Enhancementtransmuting your nen the property to enhance objects and abilities>Emissiontransmuting your nen to have long range>Conjurationtransmuting your nen to have the property of a physical object, being visible and corporeal>Manipulationtransmuting your nen to have the property of controlling things>Specializationtransmuting your nen to have special properties that don't fit in the other categories
>>289379965>Fun Fun ClothFirst of all you have no proof of that. Fun Fun Cloth was never pushed to the limits against STRONG NEN.Secondly, even if that was the case, someone like Meruem could easily rip through the cloth in his miniature state.You can't make an unbreakable shield, so you can't make an untearable cloth.>Hotel RafflesiaCan only shrink the opponent once he does a certain amount of damage. If not even Zero Hand was enough damage, a regular human is never trapping Meruem in that.In other words, aura quantity matters.>APR can put you into Zetsu if you go brokeDo tell: why is that APR needs to match the aura AMOUNT of the opponent? If "muh conditions" are all that matter, why is it that it takes longer to put Gon into Zetsu than it takes to put Youpi? And then even longer for Meruem?Why not just a flat 5 minutes?>if a Manipulator pierces you with their antenna or needle, you fall under their controlThat was already contradicted by the story. First come first served was overuled by STRONG NEN.If STRONG NEN can override first come, first served, STRONG NEN can resist Manipulation.
>>289380083you could say the same about body stealing. why wouldn't someone notice that her behavior is totally different?halkenburg passed up on that idea immediately.considering she looks the exact same now as in her flashback I'm just guessing she took the original Morena's identity without needing any additional body swapping ability
>>289380152>If "muh conditions" are all that matter, why is it that it takes longer to put Gon into Zetsu than it takes to put Youpi? And then even longer for Meruem?>Why not just a flat 5 minutes?Don't ask questions such complicated questions to brainlets.Is mean.
>>289380110>a top tier nen user, a zodiac, a mafia boss and the scourge of the phantom troupe
>>289380152>That was already contradicted by the story. First come first served was overuled by STRONG NEN.>If STRONG NEN can override first come, first served, STRONG NEN can resist Manipulation.When?Where?
>>289380085The mafia is run by wealthy nenless dipshits who have no concept of how many people in the world have superpowers or which are the good ones. Probably any ten random Hunters are Shadow Beast tier or higher.
>>289380182
STRONG NEN still cracks me up. I love that term so much.
>>289380171'99 fag anime filler isn't canon, anon
>>289380197basedstrong nen chads wonabsolute nen chuds completely broken
>>289380048I’d like to be the first to be tested by this ability.I hope the boost is worth it
>>289380110Uh oh Kurapika sister is mad
>>289380197>it doesn't apply against STRONG NENWe won this discussion so hard STRONGbros...
>>289380197>>289380210That's a condition difference, its a group ability with lives on the line.
>>289380092We already saw that Shoot's power could work on Youpi so a full shrink can happen as well. The problem is surviving long enough and dealing enough damage to manage it and Shoot just wasn't up to the task. It's no different than how Hakoware would work on Youpi as well, it just took forever. >>289380085>why were they such jobbers anyway?They were clearly good nen users who just got outclassed by the Troupe. They seem on par with the Xi-yu crew who are also skilled.
>>289380197ME UNGAME BOONGANO THINKINGJUST STRENGTH AND STRONG AND POWER AND POWERFUL AND TIER LISTS
>>289380224>That's a condition difference, its a group ability with lives on the line.You understand how dumb this sounds?If we acknowledge that there is a "aura output / power meter" and extra conditions, vows and pledges act as multipliers then we have a sound way to determine which ability wins.If you just compare conditions against conditions is impossible to determine which set of conditions win against which other set of conditions.It doesn't make sense.
>>289380197>one character speculatingThis isn't proof. When have we seen first come overruled by strong nen?
How come nobody else thought to use a collective ability like Halkenburg to achieve STRONG NEN? Were they stupid?
>>289380244Even if "strong nen" is real we know that vows, conditions and pledges are enough to make abilities absolute in human vs human nen users.Don't get mad anon.
>>289380270Bill
>>289380270The gamer brothers did exactly that to blow up people.And Ging did exactly that to build a fantasy land so his son could train.And Kakin did exactly that to gift his sons with free nen beasts.
>>289380260Yes it does. Let me ask you Strong Nen fags something. You're saying Benjamin's group is overcoming first come first serve, with sheer aura quantity right? If a Chimera ant had the same quantity of aura, he could do the same attack, with NO death risk to himself?If so he could use his MASSIVE AURA QUANTITY, to pull any ability he wants out of his ass. Why didn't he heal Komugi? It can't be his proficiency, he could make up for that with STRONG NEN right?
>>289380283If I became a literal retard with the Berserk status on how much stronger would I become?Shalnark became super saiyan with his autopilot but it's different
>>289380244evergreen
>>289380270>How come nobody else thought to use a collective ability like Halkenburg to achieve STRONG NEN?Greed Island is absolutely STRONG NEN.Angel's Breath mogs Nanika HARD when it comes to healing.
>>289380165nen is most likely involved, the body stealing was just speculation on my part. The ability itself could be anything. Her getting away with her scheme and faking her death because she just happens to look similar is stupid
Wait until you taste the power on ON
>>289380304Greed Island is still retarded. No way it should work.
>>289380270ENTER
>>289379522You cook anon
>>289376731>Kite and Gon equal score ?????
>>289380341why is netero getting crucified
>>289380221As it should be
>>289380320Not really, your assumptions are a bit dumb.Strong nen doesn't necesarilly mean that you can punch all nen effects away, just means two things- Amount of aura should be taken into account when two contradictory nen abilities clash / interact with each other- The aura of the target should be taken into account when hostile aura is used to affect it (for example to coerce behavior)I don't believe that Blaise aura is strong enough to mind control Meruem if she achieve to kiss him for example.That doesn't mean that aura pool is enough to make any kind of ability.Also Nanika, which ironically answer your question with YES YES and YES, but I myself thing that Nanika is bullshit.
>>289376731I seem to recall someone claiming that Razor was significantly stronger than Hisoka. If you are here, I want you to know that you are both officially wrong and a nigger.
>>289380338Not exactly unprecedented in the story
>>289380270Greed Island is literally full of reality warping stuff and nonsense powers. There are dice that alter probability and divine weapons you can smite people with.
>>289380363Bisky nen erotic
The Strong Nen principle is very simple: the amount of aura a human can generate is limited. Using vows and conditions, you can multiply the power of your ability to an point no human can possibly break it. To break these "absolute" abilities, you have to go beyond the potential of a single human being and achieve STRONG NEN.
>>289380270the real question is why didnt the phantom troupe form some sort of group ability like heil ly. It would be super strong. Maybe they do and we havnt see it yet. We just learned that chrollo levels up from stealing similar to how morena levels up from murder.
>>289380362He lacked STRONG ON
>>289379472>requires the hand of the original user as part of his theft>Chrollo finds guy with ability perfectly countering Hisoka>The guy is Kakin military veteran who lost both his hands in war
>>289380171SOMEONE POST THAT 99 IMAGE OF BREAST STRAP KURAPIKA
>>289380375Physically maybe but I don't think he'd win a fight.
>>289380367>I don't believe that Blaise aura is strong enough to mind control Meruem if she achieve to kiss him for exampleIt's worth noting that if Pouf used Instant Lover on Meruem, it's very likely that it would work.Baisé just can't produce enough aura output.
>>289377916Fact check: TRUE
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>>289380391I don't remember the exact wording, but it was something along the lines of "he isn't even close to Razor" which is demonstrably untrue.
>>289380363Leave Biscuit to me
>>289380407Yeah it would be weird that in physical confrontations you apply aura vs aura.But in mind control / behavior coercion then it becomes an absolute rule.Not saying it is impossible, but it is a bit weird.More so when it was explained that the way manipulators actually manipulate people is by injecting their own aura in the target.Teleportation meme is even a worse offender.
>>289380378thats completely different, this dude was a dictator with a whole country under his command and he left it of his own volition. In his position surgically altering someone to look just like you and having them replace you is feasible. Very different situation from a nameless flesh slave somehow faking her death and swapping places with a mobster and no one noticing.
>>289380082>turning 29 in augustman...
>>289377808>>knuckle/shoot level>machi>nobuRetard
>>289380391>>289380417Hisoka is on the same strength tier as Razor.It's time to accept Hisoka is a physical monster. He would be top tier even without any ability.
>>289380152>Fun Fun ClothFirstlyZeno thought it was enough for him, between individual humans its absolute can we agree on that? Secondly, why didn't Nobunaga cut his way out when he has a sword?>Hotel Rafflesia>Can only shrink the opponent once he does a certain amount of damageIn other words, it works when its conditions are fulfilled, the only way to avoid it, is not take the damage in the first place, this worked on a aura difference of like x7-x10 between Shoot and Youpi, everything else you say is cope.>Do tell: why is that APR needs to match the aura AMOUNT of the opponent? If "muh conditions" are all that matter, why is it that it takes longer to put Gon into Zetsu than it takes to put Youpi? And then even longer for Meruem?Why not just a flat 5 minutes?We've literally had this argument before, Greed Island. Conditions. Thats how the ability has to be built to do what it does. >That was already contradicted by the story. First come first served was overuled by STRONG NEN.If STRONG NEN can override first come, first served, STRONG NEN can resist Manipulation.Group ability, Death Conditions.
>>289380419It's so funny that he's getting BTFO by someone who doesn't rely on their hatsu for battle
>>289380061Kurapika is a disappointment on many levels honestly his stats and especially his intelligence should be lower on par with Leorio.
>>289380441>Posts him killing an off guard manipulator and conjurer Wow you really showed us...
>>289380375Razer definitely has much higher aura reserves and offensive power than Hisoka. He would still likely lose in a fight, since Hisoka is really good at those.
>>289380327Bisky said fix everything that's wrong with Gon. but it didn't cure his stupidity
>>289380447Next week, Cookie dies
>>289380457Ok, how about this?
>>289380457> off guardWeren't they basically nenless because they shared their abilities with Chrollo?
Caught up on HxH after 6 years of not reading anything and I couldn't believe the sandro mind rape
>>289380270You need loyal companions you can trust and be around at all times. Not easy. Introvert nen users are giga fucked, in that regard, though I suppose putting up with people despite wanting to be alone would strengthen your nen.
>>289380471>Killes a bunch of nenless one piece reactionariesSo this is the power of thr clown....
>>289380237>They were clearly good nen users who just got outclassed by the Troupe. They seem on par with the Xi-yu crew who are also skilled.This. If you imagine 4 Hinrighs in place of the Shadow Beasts that fought Uvogin they still lose.
Chrollo could hold off two Zoldyks at hand-to-hand combat, but avoided getting anywhere close to Hisoka. Hisoka is a CQC monster.
>>289380486Dimensions of the tile:3 x 3 x 0.3 = 2.7 m³Stone density 2.3-2.5(10³ kg/m³)So between 6.2 tons and 7.5 tons.Even if we reduce one of the dimensions, it's still several tons.Killua who grew up in the Zoldyck household was shocked by that kick.If someone in the Troupe did that, we would never hear the end of it.
>>289380489The different is that Henry is smart, while the shadow beasts were idiots. He'd probably find a way to kill Uvo.
>>289380459I'm willing to accept higher nen reserves, because I could see "spirit" meaning that, although I think it is something more like "fighting spirit", but the offensive power is clearly untrue. Togashi's official number simply disagree.
>>289380367>Not really, your assumptions are a bit dumb.You are projecting, these past threads you just keep posting your own headcanon because thats how YOU think Nen should work, well thats not how it works, and no amount of you saying "b-but that makes no sense!" and "togashi was wrong!" is going to change it. >I don't believe that Blaise aura is strong enough to mind control Meruem if she achieve to kiss him for example.Exactly, you don't believe. You don't like it. You are a shounen fan and you cannot STAND the idea of small number being able to beat big number, so you cope and you seethe. Well, thats how it works, I'm afraid. The only way to stop it from happening, is for Meruem to AVOID the activation condition in the first place, which he can easily do. >Also Nanika, which ironically answer your question with YES YES and YES, but I myself thing that Nanika is bullshit.So your point is incoherent then? Because anything you don't like, you'll just say "That's bullshit" "That shouldn't work like that" "Togashi is wrong" There is literally no point in arguing with you.
>>289379965>heh... once I wrap my cloth around this guy, whose raw Aura dwarfs my cloth's size thousands of times over.... I win
>>289380197The pic that killed the Zushibros...
>>289380470I wish we actually see him kill Cookie. Please Togashi
>>289380384Doesn't stealing treasure to boost the Bandit's Secret basically makes it a group ability? It wasn't Chrollo himself who stole the treasure back in Yorknew
>>289380494>pixel scalingImmediate loss
>>289380511Razer's volleyballs explode boats. Hisoka's gum ain't doing that.
>>289380146no one can refute this
>>289380520Heh, with my strong nen I am sure to wi-
>>289380540Hakowire tanked that btw
>>289380429>Teleportation meme is even a worse offender.Do you have an answer for why Shoot could even warp part of Youpi away (>>289380237) if STRONG NEN would dictate it doesn't work at all? Youpi had vastly more aura than Shoot yet the only thing that mattered was Shoot fulfilling the condition of causing damage to snatch the associated part away.
>>289380540> I can't physical destroy the visual representation of a curse> Checkmate strongnenlets> Oh no no no Halkeburg ability trumped first come first serve because CONDITIONS THAT I CAN'T EXPLAIN> AYYYYYYYYYYYYY HAKOWARE SAVE ME
>>289380532Of course it won't, Hisoka's nen doesn't explode and he isn't an emitter. But Hisoka is more than capable of reflecting that very same attack back at Razor (because he has). That's like criticizing Razor for being unable to conjure a vacuum cleaner.
>>289380489>If you imagine 4 Hinrighs in place of the Shadow Beasts that fought Uvogin they still lose.Pigeons>STRONG MEN
>>289380540Potclean is a hologram and cannot be destroyed.
>>289380540What's the point of STRONG NEN if not even Meruem can destroy Hakoware despite the gap between him and Knuckle.
>>289380562I literally explained the conditions, you haven't explained why Meruem with all of his aura can't make an ability of equal potency without conditions.
>>289380490he's clearly a monster of a man, only trolls deny this.
>>289380481the power of friendship is always strongest, shonen kino at its best.
The "Nen is absolute "argument is immediately solved early on, when Izunavi asks Kurapika if he can create indestructible chains. Kurapika denies it mentioning how that would defy the rules of nature.STRONG NEN wins against weaker Nen. Weaker Nen could be any kind of output, base or even augmented by vows and restrictions.>>289380540In this example Hakoware is almost invincible because he literally helps the enemy and as such he's not an evil spirit or anything of the sort hence making him virtually invincible. But if they were to find even STRONGER NEN like in Dark World he could literally eat it and probably disable Knuckle's ability.Knuckle's ability would work on Meruem because it starts from literally 0 and has to buildup. Since Meruem is OP it would take even longer than Youpi to give him Zetsu. It's perfectly normal and doesn't contradict the system.
>>289380577>Ignore your lying eyesThe attack doesn't pass through it, it interacts with it, it CAN'T destroy it.
>>289380562>the visual representation of a curseYou guys keep saying this but it's a conjured nen beast not a projection.
>>289380490Kastro > Silva and Zeno
>>289380617should have gone for the head.
>>289380607>More STRONG NEN>Post-Rose MeruemHOLY COPE
>>289380540Holy fuck... Emission chads can do THAT?
>>289379522I respect your Netero in emission choice. Emission has affinity with manipulation so it just makes the most sense aside from making him a specialist.
>>289380636Post-Rose Meruem probably jobs to some random snake in the Dark World.
>>289380520I like how Pouf sounds like an anti-STRONG NEN fag and Meruem simply shuts his fucking mouth with STRONG aura
>>289379553I just do it for sloppy kisses with Morena and after that I fuck off to tier 5 to procede to do nothing
>>289380617Kastro had the potential to be a monster.Hisoka and Chrollo tier in terms of potential.
>>289380644That was Chimera ants before they ever merged with humans, before they even learned nen, try again.
>>289380607>But if they were to find even STRONGER NEN like in Dark World he could literally eat it and probably disable Knuckle's ability.Why are you talking about Rihan like he is some sort of thought experiment?
>>289380646
>>289380583he could if he was a nen exorcist
>>289380669Rihan changed the trajectory of my life.
>>289380540-win
>Post Rose Meruem's nen still can't get rid of Hakoware. This means that Zushi COULD manipulate Meruem.
>>289380607>n this example Hakoware is almost invincible>almost
>>289380675Hey nice you brought this up>STRONGER NEN>bigger beast for Abengane>longer pregnancy for HinaSTRONG NEN deniers??????????
>>289380672>>289380646>>289380684This is a clear example of what I was talking about. He's defeating his enemies before they EVER have a chance to get their activations conditions off, this is the only way in which strong Nen matters.
>>289380555It's hard to tell anon, because he is taking a part of his body.You could say that he is overcoming with his attack one part which is not the same as an absolute ability taking control of the whole.But hey, I'm open to reinterpretation when Togashi give us more information.For example I don't even know if for conjurations "indestructibility" is the default of the conjured item, or you make it "invincible" (quotes) by paying extra or not. Or the other way around, you make it capable of being broken to get extra power.
>>289380675Abengane(ultimate) > Hina > Meruem
>>289380270More like how come no one thought to come up with a poison ability since STRONG POISON can defeat STRONG NEN (See: Meruem).
>>289380607>But if they were to find even STRONGER NEN like in Dark World he could literally eat it and probably disable Knuckle's ability.You don't need to create such an elaborate scenario.Nanika is from the Dark Continent.>"Nanika, destroy Potclean.">"Aye."
>>289380669FUARK OUR BOY IS SO STRONGTHE STRONGEST NENBRING HIM BISKYBRING HIM HANZOLET'S ROLL BABE
>>289380722That's Exorcism, you don't need Nanika for it. But you can't destroy or resist an activated ability through your own sheer quantity of aura.
>>289380716I would imagine Genthru's abilities were directly inspired by a Poor Man's Rose detonation.
>>289380702>you make it "invincible" (quotes) by paying extra or notI would think it's this. "Paying extra" also seems to be done via abilities don't deal direct damage and have conditions to fulfill, rather than simply hsving a higher aura drain.
The funny edit that ruined discussion forever.
>>289380617Canonically Kastro was very strong. He just needed a good nen teacher.
>>289380702The minimum requirement for an indestructible Nen construct, is that it has to be harmless, better yet, helpful.
>>289380738>But you can't destroy or resist an activated ability through your own sheer quantity of aura.Source? The manga says the opposite >>289380197
>>289380698How big would Hinas belly get if she exorcised Beyond's curse?
>>289380722>Sorry, Killua, but Knuckle's NEN is too STRONG for me... T_TNow what?
>>289380759She would get a regular belly but inside there would be an actual Beyond baby
>>289380577It's not a hologram if you can touch it.
>>289380757>SourceHere >>289380540
>>289376731>Intelligence>Zushi: 1>Cheetuh: 2
>>289380702>You could say that he is overcoming with his attack one part which is not the same as an absolute ability taking control of the whole.The problem I have with the STRONG NEN camp is that they are ironically less consistent in these cases than what I think the story is just telling us. manipulation is stated and utilized under the idea that it circumvents conventional nen defenses as a means of establishing control. The only time aura amounts would matter is if the manipulator needs to penetrate the target. Teleportation is the same. The troupe are absolutely stronger than someone like Voconte but they all still get warped by the doors regardless. STRONG NEN doesn't make sense because even the royal guard were afraid that Meruem cuold be teleported away and that fear isn't there if he just ignores everything. >I don't even know if for conjurations "indestructibility" is the default of the conjured itemNothing is indestructible by default. It's like selective visibility in that it is an additional property that seemingly comes with it's own rules. Invincibility seems to require that the ability doesn't harm the user or the targets.
>>289380772He's thought everything through hasn't he?
>>289380776You don't have an answer for WHY Potclean needs to match the opponents aura AMOUNT before it can put them into Zetsu.Nen is quantifiable.
Machi chapter soon?
>>289380802Those are the conditions needed to create that ability, if it took way longer, it could use a flat rate. You don't have an answer for WHY Hotel Rafflesia works on Youpi.
>>289376731>>289380778>that one anon who was swearing up and down last thread that zushi had the potential to be like biskykwabooty
>>289380745>me and the other rihanbros whenever our lord and savior is mentioned
>I don't care about being a loli anymore>I'll use everything to femdom you>RIHAN
>>289380778Zushi is Tatsurou of HxH, isn't he?
>>289380061Kurapika cheats by having a very specific power boost against a very specific gorup and will probably die before he's 30 because of it.
What if Meruem goes in Knov's Hide and Seek and Knov just decides to never open it again. Can STRONG NEN save him or does he need to create a counter ability just to escape?
>>289380759By me
>>289380772I wonder if humanoid chimera ants can reproduce normally with humans. This needs to be addressed in the Gyro arc 50 years from now.
>>289380061>>289380110The stats come from a HxH databook that showed updated character stats after each arcup to the CA arc. The diagram here >>289376731 only gathers stats from the last time each character appeared, which is why it shows stats of Yorkshin Kurapika. If the chart were to be updated again Kurapika should be at least Chrollo tier.
>>289380850And the expert on the topic:
>>289380843>They will tell you that he gets stuck, BUT there is totally a potential creature in the dark continent that has 6 gorillion aura points that could scream its way out like Super Buu.
LETSSSS GOOO ONE MORE CHAPTER UNTIL THAT BLONDE BITCH CAMILLLA IS DEAD
>>289380824>Those are the conditions needed to create that ability, if it took way longer, it could use a flat rateYou can adjust your ability. Why didn't Knuckle adjust the conditions for his ability to a flat rate knowing he would be up against monsters with a far larger aura pool?>You don't have an answer for WHY Hotel Rafflesia works on YoupiHotel Rafflesia could only apply one of its harmless effects. It's harder to resist against precisely because it's harmless.
>>289380834how the fuck did this guy make it through the hunter exam
>>289380870Zazan?
>>289380607What the FUCK am I reading?
>>289380867Here's another one for the CA arc.
>>289380902Zazan used her ability to create zombies.
The answer is that Mereum's STRONG NEN wasn't strong enough. Invincible abilities have such a crazy multiplier that you need another crazy multiplier (e.g., nen exorcism) to reach them.
>>289380892He could have gotten worse over time.
>>289380757People keep quoting Benjamin but we haven't confirmed his speculation and characters have been wrong before. Especially in this arc.
>>289380473Chrollo doesn't seal your nen he just steals your hatsu
>>289380818Soon
>>289380842>probablyNigga lost 12 years of his life over a roach, maybe half of that in Yorknew, who knows how much in training and in the time we haven't seen him, and we're only 2 weeks into the boat. Might as well ask Nasubi if he can make one more coffin.
>>289380908Can we talk about this bitch? How the fuck do you beat her? Literally STRONG NEN made form.
>>289380892Motherfucking Tonpa almost made it through dude, he literally would have won if Kurapika didn't come out of the woodworks to boot him. The Hunter Exam is full of nobodies.
>>289380847Cammy next chapter
>>289380936Who cares? Nen users live to be 130+ or something. Oh no, he will die at 80!
>>289380940>attack has different forms depending on emotion>we might very well never see Black Widow againIt's Pain Packer all over again
>>289380940Killua fears her btw
>>289380913What if someone were to combine post-mortem nen, group nen, STRONG NEN, invincible nen, and nen exorcism?
If there's no objective nen god, then how does lifespan reduction work? Who enforces that?
When are we getting back to the Phantom Troupe and the mafia?
>>289380892Zushi-kun has a chance, I believe in himhe will grow strong and insemenate Bisky
>>289380127remember that he just wanted to gather the princes so he could just mean 4 princes unaccounted for
>>289380940imagine if she enhanced and manipulated her bush instead of her hair
>>289380954>Nen users live to be 130+ or something.Not everybody is a Netero, anon.
>>289380913At least we know know that Shalnark + Meleoron would have BTFO Meruem. Glad everyone can finally agree on something
>>289380888>You can adjust your ability. Why didn't Knuckle adjust the conditions for his ability to a flat rate knowing he would be up against monsters with a far larger aura pool?Why didn't they just portal in the miniature rose? Stop shifting the goalposts. >Hotel Rafflesia could only apply one of its harmless effects. It's harder to resist against precisely because it's harmless.You have become incoherent. Hotel Rafflesia takes a part of your body when it deals a certain amount of damage. THATS IT, that condition was fulfilled, and it worked on Youpi. If Youpi just stood there, eventually he would have been put entirely in the cage, just like Kites body was.
>>289380940Be a good looking man
>>289380990Isn't some Zoldyck like from the Bronze age or something? It's not a Netero feature.
>>289380973Me. My ability is that I arbitrate any ambiguous or unclear nen ability.
How many men has Camilla taken at once? At least 5, right?
Jikan desu-*shoots Potclean with a nen bullet that enforces zetsu for 24 hours rebounding to Knuckle and immediately bankrupting him instead.
>>289380940Or how about Kite? Kite should now be the strongest living being on the planet. He could probably solo the dark continent.
>>289380973How strong is a nen god?
>>289380990Netero is 200+ I think
>>289381007>using the motherfucking zoldycks as a measuring stickThose niggas are barely human *without* nen
>>289381007Maha but he actually looks like an old codger
>>289380971>FINALLY, THE 500 YEARS LONG RITUAL IS COMPLETE>THROUGH GENERATIONS, WE FINALLY FULFILLED ALL THE CONDITIONS WITH EFFORT AND BY RECRUITING ALL THE CORRECT PEOPLE FOR THE JOB>SARABADA HAKOWARE
>>289380973The soul exists in universe, and can be used as fuel.
>>289381022ask benjamin in a few chapters
>>289380870>you just remembered this nigga is out to FUCK and he will create a gator rape carnival
>>289381018
>>2893810151. And it was with me.
>>289381034kek
>>289380973>Who enforces that?The same entity that enforces gravity.
>>289380892Same way Leorio did, getting carried and having luck
>>289381044yeah, aligators are known to fuck everybody during mating seasonmale on male action is pretty comon for these guys
>>289380999>Why didn't they just portal in the miniature rose? Stop shifting the goalposts.Because there were 5 million civillians gathered outside the palace. The whole was watching the situation.>Hotel Rafflesia takes a part of your body when it deals a certain amount of damage. THATS IT, that condition was fulfilledYes, and damage equals your aura output vs the opponent's aura output.>If Youpi just stood there, eventually he would have been put entirely in the cage, just like Kites body wasYes, conditions are multiplicative. Eventually, the aura output would be enough for the intended effect.
>>289381037>ask Tserriednich in a few chapters after the Benjamin humiliation ritual endsfixed
>>289380850It was already addressed by knov. Yes they can
>>289381081isaac newton?
This is the chapter bros, I can feel it.
>>289380384>the real question is why didnt the phantom troupe form some sort of group ability like heil lyHisoka, Illumi, Kalluto and the others that werent originally part of the troupe are a good reason (they probably wouldnt join if they had to be part of a group ability, they could also use said ability against the troupe depending on what it is)
>>289381081That implies you can measure lifespan like you can gravity. How do you do that?
>>289380973Who enforces the reduction of your lifespan if you take trenbolone?
Cammy bros trust the plan
>>289380384Bro the troupe are already stronger than 99% of nen users. What the hell would they need more power for?
Yep , I'm thinking its a kurapika nen classes and It ends with their reaction to martial law.
>>289381121Drugs don't come with a debuff that says "-5 years of lifespan". Kurapika's abilities do. Who enforces that?
>>289380973Nen is the control of channeled life energy.You're choosing to burn your life energy prematurely.There's no need for any enforcement, it's literally just a cumulative strain.
>>289381137Based on 410, either Ben postponed killing Cammy and Tserri or the former is dead.
>>289380360Strongest conjurer cuck vs the average enhancer BVLL
>heh, nothing personnel, anon
>>289381137I fear Kakin women are WEAK, my liege.
>>289381162>Who enforces that?Your own Nen. Your own life energy will work against you, because that's the pact you made with yourself.Which is exactly what was happening with Gon, and exactly why Alluka needed to take his Nen away in order to heal him.
If specialists are good at all categories like Morena claims, then shouldn't they be called generalists?
>>289381162His soul flame shrinks
Nobunaga and Hinrigh are lucky they favor weapons and were stuck at range. Imagine punching this guy and losing your arm in the process.
>>289381206kakin women will live on as a nen beast harem for the victor
>>289376731Bisky never fights seriously in the series and she always manages to compete with everyone. The one time fights with her original body she goes strenght build, without need to use nen.But I already knew she was a monster the moment Togashi showed her Hatsu exists for aesthetic reasons. You play around your Hatsu only when you can afford to do it (see: Netero or the Clown)
Total clown supremacy btw
>>289381212They aren't, they just learn their categories quicker
>>289381086>Because there were 5 million civillians gathered outside the palace. The whole was watching the situation.Not when Knov first placed the portal, they could have done it then. Why would it matter if the whole world is watching in 10 days time? The Nuke went off either way.>Yes, and damage equals your aura output vs the opponent's aura output.I see what you're doing, you're trying to imply that the basic aura attack, vs aura defense, is how every ability works. And I'm telling you it is not. Conjurations can enforce rules. If you let them effect you, you cannot use aura quantity to get out of them, at that point you need a Nen exorcist, or fulfill whatever escape clause the ability gives you. In the case of Hotel Raflessia, Shoot was able to deal miniscule damage through Youpi's Ken, and steal one of his eyes. Youpi then cannot charge his Ren until the eye comes back, he has to either fulfill Shoots conditions to get the eye back, or go to a Nen exorcist. You don't like this idea, and thats it. I know you think you have some great discovery about the nature of Nen but you don't, all you have is your personal preference, and the fact that it doesn't "Feel" right that Blaise's ability works on Meruem if he was a retard and let her kiss him.
If strong nen is so good why meruem never won a gungi match?
>>289381212No, they don't have 100% on everything once they decide what to do with their Nen (which is why Morena talked about wasting their potential).Chrollo, Pakunoda and Meleoron are all bad at Enhancement, since it has nothing to do with their abilities.Specialist specialize their Nen towards a specific application. Enhancers are the generalists.
>>289381240I wish I was stuck up to the hilt inside Soufflé...
>>289381293komugis nen was stronger
>>289381278Netero wanted his 1v1
>>289381293he didn't think to enhance his brain.
>>289381278>Not when Knov first placed the portal, they could have done it thenNetero wanted his fight anon. And I doubt the V5 would want to have to cover up a national capital being nuked in broad daylight
>>289381293He was a bitch who never played with his life on the line.
>>289381240>on the boat we have seen 3 characters and a nen beast make it so its unsafe to enter doorsAre doors... strong nen?Should top tier nen users create abilities specifically designed to work at doorways?
>>289381293Komugi staked her life on winning gungi which worked as a unconscious vow that enhanced her gungi-playing skills to be like Kurapika's unbreakable chains.
>>289381311>>289381320Motherfuckers I know that, I'm arguing with a pendantic asshole asking "why didn't knuckle just change his ability lol?"
>>289381329>Should top tier nen users create abilities specifically designed to work at doorways?I mean, if you are going to place a trap or a trigger for a trap. Doorways are innocuous enough that pretty much 100% of people will fall for it the first time and that's the only time that matters.
>>289381278>Youpi then cannot charge his Ren until the eye comes backI don't remember reading that, if true hotel rafflesia is broken
>>289381398If he could have he would have. Same with Hakoware.
>>289381372>my ability is to create a c4 explosive filled doppelganger of myself every time I enter a doorway
>>289381372>>289381329>>289381447Dude what if we placed a teleport trap on a door, and then just put a bomb at the destination?
>>289381293Komugi was a 2823.0 Gungi GM with a perfect W/L ratio.Meruem was a 736 elo literally green scrub with an abominable W/L that any professional Gungi player would have blown their heads off for havingUnwinnable unless he cheated.
what are their categories?
>>289381474But what about meruem's POTENTIAL? In time he would've surpassed komugi
>>289381461I say let's do it. I'll be the guy reinforcing the walls so we don't lose our killing floor with the explosives.
>>289381495No, because Komugi's ability came from nen while Meruem's didn't. He would have had to create a hatsu to become better at gungi.
>>289381495Not until he gambled it all with his life on the line
How does Knov teleport things into "interdimensional space"? Where is this "space" located?
>>289381555in the interdimension
>>289381555>How does Knov teleport things into "interdimensional space"?Emissions>Where is this "space" located?In some unspecified alternate space outside realspace.
>>289381525Non-issue
DUDE NEN DOOR LMA-*shoots nen door* *enforces zetsu rebounded to nen user for 24 hours yada yada yada*
>>289381591I don't think Mereum wants to eat Komugi.
>>289381525It didn't come from nen, she was btfoing Meruem before becoming a nen user
>>289381612He just needs to eat more gungi players
>>289381480Chibiusa is emitter
>>289381523Interesting that it says > TOUGHT TO DESTROYinstead of > Impossible to destroyReally makes you think
Is Kuwabara's sword transmuted or conjured?
>>289381700Because they're walls, they are not harmless, they impede progress and can entrap. To make something indestructible it has to be harmless or helpful.
>>289381720Transmuted. See: Gon's scissors.
>>289381720>can cut dimensionsobvious specialist
>>289381700I would imagine that there are limits to what esoteric effects can be given to already existing items. And if Nobunaga is saying this is a common idea spread across different categories everyone probably handles it differently>Enhancers reinforce the walls and can repair them>Transmuters might coat a surface in a material that resists damage of varying types>Specialists...do specialist things and make the walls harder to destroy
>>289380574Hisoka was bleeding trying to catch a ball thrown by one of Razor's weaker minions with the help of his gum. Also reminder, Razor was using his nen to power all the emitter spills on Greed Island.But oh well, Togashi 20 years later decided Hisoka has the bigger number so he's stronger I guess.
>Immune to damage>Invincible type>once the conditions are fulfilled attacks won't workThis argument is settled.
>>289381816>Also reminder, Razor was using his nen to power all the emitter spills on Greed Island.The Emission he provided for the spells was only subtracted when the cards were created. They weren't causing any active strain on him.We saw Razor go all out, with no handicaps, and Hisoka was still able to redirect the ball from his massive Ko.
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>>289381847Why would there be a need for "higher level guards" if conditions are all that matter?A level 1 guard would be able to detain Meruem.
>>289381847Symbiotic type.This with Morena, the organ, and possibly the specialist (Bork) they were looking for, works together.
>>289381947They don't have infinite strength thats what the higher levels and extra aura is for. But they are explicitly>Immune to damage>InvincibleBut you won't address this
>>289377370>rank these characters in levels of strength/ nen proficiencyDogmanMachiIzunaviHanzoKurapikaNobunagaHinrighBashoShizukuBill
Will I have to suffer more weeks of this back and forth between nen absolutists and the STRONG NEN faction?
>>289381985>>Immune to damage>>Invincible"Nanika, destroy those robots.""Aye."There are no absolutes when it comes to Nen, only essentially absolutes."You can't make a sword that will cut through anything and you can't make an unbreakable shield... but you can come close."
>>289382046Thats exorcism, stop shifting the goal posts.
>>289382046The guards are not even close to "sword that can cut through anything" that has no conditions. The Guards are simply described, by the narrator mind you, as being immune to damage, because they can't deal damage to the enemy in turn. Also I find it interesting how you cherry pick earlier statements in the manga, but ignore later ones right in front of your face, this is Izunavi's bum ass vs. the narrator by the way which makes it even funnier.
>>289382066No, Killua could literally ask for Nanika to break the robots into a thousand pieces, and she would be able to do that, because she can produce that much aura output (STRONG NEN).
>>289382126This is less aura than Meruem has in >>289380520this panel, and he couldn't even destroy Hakoware.
>>289381555nen space is just something emitter are often accessingwhen luini goes from point A to point B he briefly traverses nen space. When we see him 'inside' a wall and looking out, like when we he spied on the troupe from above, he's just chilling in nen space
>>289382123>the Nen master of one of the main characters who remained unnamed for 300 chapters and was a explicit narrative tool to teach us about the Nen rules was simply wrong!!Holy cope.
>>289382152>This is less aura than Meruem has inYou have no basis for that.
>>289382186You literally said, or are arguing for the person who said "Togashi was wrong">>289382198Yeah I do, it looks bigger
You cannot make unbreakable chains. Why?Because if you could, Kurapika would've made them. Absolutechuds have no cope against this.Kurapika only made "essentially unbreakable chains" (by human standards), because that was what he could do, and that was enough.The fact that he even needed to test if they could be broken says everything.
>>289382291>Chains aren't harmless>They can impede and entrapyou can keep ignoring everything that doesn't confirm your world view, it still won't change the manga
>>289380540People say this is proof strong nen doesn't work but its really just proof Meruem is 2 weeks old and doesn't understand nen exorcism yet
>>289381904>>289381922>The Emission he provided for the spells was only subtracted when the cards were created. They weren't causing any active strain on him.I'm saying it as a skill feat as the abilities are pretty complex despite not even being his main arsenal.Hisoka was able to reflect the ball but all the energy was still Razor's, he simply bounced it back. It's an impressive technical use of his ability but not really a strength feat. Notice how despite being pushed out the court, Razor didn't take any damage from the ball, compared to Hisoka sacrificing 2 fingers to catch it before when it had way less power (though he didn't use ko). This is all after Razor has been running the whole game and expending far more nen. They're really not even on the same level of power.
