How do we recover from this?
>>289392557I liked the first episode, to hear the author was into miscegenation was disheartening, is GITS at least free from this sort of thing?
Ban all phoneposters
>>289392584Holy shit you won't ever shut up about this will you?
>>289392601Actually, I heard this from an earlier thread today
>>289392557By accepting GITS was never highest tier of anything and people need to go through the classics before opening their mouth. Japan had been making great anime Sci-Fi films since 1978.
>>289392584Yeah, GITS only deals with transgenderism.
>>289392557Cool girls are ALWAYS dorksNo exceptions
Recover? From people being actually faithful to original work?Yea, Motoko Kusanagi is not a robot. She's goofy, funny, horny, jelous etc. Long live Gremlin Motoko!
boring movie vs hot shit, yeah I'll know what to pick
>>289392593SPBP
>>289392557Who's "we"?
>>289392593Only post this thread should've gotten
>>289392557Recover from what?
>>289392584Don't worry about that anon. Shirow started with some irrelevant interracial porn artbooks on the 2010s and those are not even real stories, it's very far from his golden years.Thought in Appleseed it's about an interracial couple but the guy has a robot head, it's pretty irrelevant in the story and in some adaptations he is not even black.Yes GITS doesn't countains that, only some lesbos shit.
>>289392557Ban gooners, simple as.
>>289392557Ban all normalfag social media cumstains
It is kinda weird how someone like Oshii that was involved with goofy comedy anime like UY and Patlabor went on to direct something as morose as the GitS movie.
>>289392872>he says, in a GITS thread on /a/
>>289392745Xitter.
>>289392557>>289392584>>289392861Kill yourselves, redditors.
>tourists learn about the truth of animeIsn't it funny.
>>289392929It’s like they only watched dragon ball (which also had plenty of fanservice) and said Ah yes all anime is solely about men punching each other
>>289392893>OshiiYes, the guy who was also a director of Patlabor 2 and Angel's Egg, so it's not really that weird.
>>289392954Yeah but still the original GiTS is genuinely unnerving and disturbing.
>>289392911Oh shut up blacked fan, go back fapping on Cyril Brooklyn.
GitS 1995 is anime for people who don't like anime
>>289392911>gets btfo>can't refute anything>REDDIT REDDIT TUMBLR FACEBOOK NORMIE REEEEEEEkek
>>289393071literally how
>>289392954The Patlabor OVAs and TV episodes he directed/wrote were pretty lighthearted though
>>289393094It doesn't make my pp hard enough
>>289392557I think it'll end up being better than SAC, but worse than 1995.
>>289393094made by a westaboo who hates "anime (as a genre rather than a medium)", with the intent of making it like a live action/western movie. some other examples are Cowboy Bebop and anything by Ghibli.
>>289393143Bebop is better than pretty much every other anime outside of Evangelion so…
>>289392872Gooners make the good stuff whereas stuck up prudes like you make ugly ass wojaks or shitty movies like uwe boll film
>>289393071When compared to Akira from a decade before, it isn't very good.
>>289393088Nothing is being presented for refutation in the first place. Who is "we", and what are "they" supposed to recover from?
>>289393143Couldn't be further from the truth. He likes cute girls, his style has always been about making art house stuff.
>>289392557It's very telling that phoneposting retards are the ones who think Oshit GitS is good.
>>289393171>literally no uI mean, I get your brain is fried by porn, but at least try.
>>289392557I don't like the new anime because they censored all the nudity the manga had, in the manga the lesbian orgy had them fully naked, the new anime added 4kids tier poorly edited swimsuits, so much for "faithful adaptation", fuck this shit, say what you want about the 90s movie being nothing like the manga, it at least didn't remove the nudity
>>289393204It wasn't bad, there's some cool animated sequences, there's the garbage man with the implanted memories scene. Overall it's pretty middling for a "classic". The GITS show feels like it demonstrates the characters and world more intuitively.
>>289393197Never mentioned anything like that anon, if you're gonna use shitty copypastas to defend your arguments at the very least to ad them before you post them so they make sense in the conversation.
>>289392593slippy bippyalso op's pic came from twitter
>>289392861>irrelevantIt's on par with Appleseed.
>>289393272As someone who knows nothing about GITS, what's the QRD between the og manga, movie/show?
>>289393363>the og mangashirow's autism at full display
>>289393363I've only seen the 95 movie and this new show, people say the manga was lighthearted.
>>289393363Manga - Comedic smut series set in a cyberpunk worldMovie - Mentally retarded character going "Do I exist...? Wait... I think... therefore... I... I exist!" for 2 hours
>>289393210You make irrelevant crap that no one likes, so you pretend to be better than everyone because of it. You aren't and you will never be. Stuck up people like you are destined to make ugly art, bad music, boring books, and crappy films that people only pretend like in pity.
>>289393363Tone. Shirow is not one for slow drama, but loves rapid fire technobabble and very fast pacing. There is basically never a page that isn't either rambling about some pet philosophy Shirow has, or moving the plot forwards significantly. The GITS film is very slow and meditative.
>>289393363The manga was basically a lighthearted sexy SOL with cyberpunk backgrounds. The movie tells a serious story through a great usage of the medium (framing, action scenes, dialogs, OST, pacing, etc).
>>289393363movie/show is stoic, serious, and left-leaningmanga is smutty, whimsical, and right-leaning but that's because its talking about the status quo at the time
>>289392557You don't, shirowslop should be mocked
>>289393402>>289393522>Manga - Comedic smut series set in a cyberpunk worldThe manga is not all that funny past the first couple chapters, and isn't very smutty past the one scene.Nor is it light hearted, but instead very serious and even dour at times.
>>289393415>still can't refute anything>just namecallingKek, okay gooner.
>>289393584>t. hasn't read the manga as an adult.
>>289392557>one of the greatest anime and science fiction films of all time>literally ends on a "to be continued" lmao
>>289393415Nta but that sounds retarded. You're seriously trying to pretend all great artists were anime masturbators posting about their waifu?
>>289393623Everything from ~chapter 7 onwards is mostly serious. 6 is mostly serious, except for the joke about the man that made himself into a black box. Motoko loses all whimsy to her character once she starts merging with the Puppeteer.
>>289392557Recoverfr9m what? She ALWAYS had the capacity for silly expressions, the original just completely downplayed that.
>>289393689Yes. Yes, that's unironically exactly it.Have you ever heard of a little thing called the Muse?
>>289393159It even beats Eva, which is just shitty religious imagery Anno put in cause he found it cool and gets overinterpreted.
>>289393754No Eva is still the best “shot” show/film I’ve ever seen. Every cut is glorious.
>>289393754>shitty religious imagery Anno put in cause he found it cool and gets overinterpreted.this factoid is so overposted I can't tell if anons mean it ironically anymore, or if you're just a newfag
>>289393383Manga was just as serious with story as movie. Difference is Shirow cut tension with jokes, funny faces and overreactions while movie and consequent works inspired by 1995 movie cut those parts out.
>>289392911Reddit would be on the opposite side of this discussion though
>>289393809My feeling is that there aren't many people who are read up on Jewish Kabbalah that browse the board.
>>289393159>>289393754>leddit tier post is taken seriously
>>289393778What anything by Madhouse from the late 90s.
>>289393839my friend said he dropped SAC because it didn't keep to the tone of the 95 film>>289393848>not doing the bare minimum
>>289393870*Watch
>>289393884I would read the Jewish Kabbalah if it had pictures or came in the form of the manga.I'm only half joking, you have no idea how many serious books get a "learn with manga" edition in Japan, I think even Das Kapital has one
>>289393136Impossible since SAC is better than the film and the Saruslop will have to try hard to be better than Arise.
>>289393747You do understand there's a middle ground between being a prude and a porn addict, right?
>>289393778Maybe if you're mentally retarded.
>>289393932I wish they would make moby dick an anime, even a CGDCT one would do. It's way too long.
>>289392557
>>289393999Name something objectively better shot and directed
>>289394030Any scene from Akira
>>289393998It's either 0 or 100 with me. No point in living life if you aren't at the extremes.
>>289394059
>>289394030
>>289392557Director's vision: good.1 for 1 basedrce adaptation: bad.Shibou yugi is aoty btw.
>>289394059Akira is a technical marvel but the characters look like gross babies
>>289393354So you are saying Appleseed is focused on interracial sex and features many scenes with Hecatonchires banging the oiled blonde heroine and we see his cyber BBC?It just cannot compare with his retarded artbooks he made since globohomo era started.
>>289394110Every day I'm reminded of how diverse humans are. For every 10,000 people that appreciate Otomo's artstyle you get 1 or 2 retards that can't do it.
>>289394030Princess Mononoke
>>289394107>>289394030>>289394059>>289394161These are all great, the '95 adaptation isn't in this category
>>289394081Oh, so that's why you're 100% retarded, understood.
>>289394161Great film but not on Eva’s level. Anno’s directing is sharp in a way no one else is for me.
>>289394200If you have a low IQ, that is.
>>289394278Good thing facts don't care about your opinions
The Oshii movie cut out all the comedy from the manga. SAC is based on that movie, not the manga. This new anime is an adaptation of the original manga, which apparently no one has ever read.
>>289393221Based
>>289394282You have to have a very high IQ to understand Ghost In The Shell (1995)
>>289394480This but unironically. It’s more heady than people give it credit for.
>>289392593Holy spbp
>>289394248You're getting very sleepy.
>>289394508You must be very young
>>289393884So did I. SAC is serious but it has almost none of the sublime baroque imagery of the film. I can just watch Ergo Proxy if I want some of that.Shit, Ergo Proxy also does the whole "monster of the week stunlocks you with philosophy and tries to fuck you in the ass while you're busy thinking" thing that Oshii always does.I could be wrong but I don't think that's in SAC
>>289394593I’ve been wanting to try Ergo Proxy thanks for the recommendation!
>>289394563Anon, I know you get extremely angry and can't think straight, but it worsens your esl to stratospheric levels so calm down a little before writing.
wtf? no one in this thread is saying anythingare u guys bots?
>>289394564>n-no ukek
>>289394659It does the classic rugpull exposition dump thing towards the end though, so be prepared for that.
>>289392584>cares about miscegenation>despite not having sex himselfNani
>>289394706Literally every GiTS (2026) thread is like this, sorry yo can't use them for traning your model.
>>289393747Yeah I know of the Muses. No they weren't like the tranime you jack off to. Where're your art even?
>>289394859>>So miscegenation is doubly badWhy?
>>289392584fuck off>>289392861>Shirow started with some irrelevant interracial porn artbooks on the 2010s and those are not even real stories, it's very far from his golden years.you have no clue what the fuck you're talking about, go away poser
>tranimeOkay I had a hunch the thread was full of tourists but there's the smoking gun
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>iTs cLoSeR tO tHe oRiGiNaL mAnGa!!!!whocares
>>289395007Use your words.
>>289392584First time I've ever heard about this course but you sound pathetic
>>289395075 >doesn't have the balls to reply>doesn't understand the term tranime>has the balls to call other people tourists Kek, nice outing kid.
>>289395086>retard is too stupid to understand contextWhy are jeets like you here?
>>289395007the old one looks pretty bad desu Togusa has a weird fluoride stare and Major looks like the coin profile of an inbred European ruler
>>289395026So in your view sex is bad or defiling by nature. Where does this "extra" bad come from then, if the perpetrator is a man or woman from another race? It just sounds like a specific kind of fornication.
>>289395146Did you reply to the wrong person? Why are you including me in whatever meltdown you're having?
>>289395168He has that look because he’s part cyborg
>>289395075Bait but I'll reply:Even if you only like the movie, understanding the manga helps understanding the movie. Oshii changed a lot of details in a very deliberate way and if you don't know what those details are, it's easy to misinterpret the movie because all the shit you take for granted is actually a subversion.For instance>>289395007At this point in the movie Motoko says something like "What is true of the group is also true of the individual" which is a paraphrasing the very end of the manga, it's supposed to be one of the big reveals about the structure of the universe. But the movie treats it as Motoko's personal belief system, which then explains her obsession with the Puppetmaster and casts doubt upon the Puppetmaster's speech because it could all just be bullshit designed to lure her.Most people take that speech at face value because they don't have that context (or just because they don't know it's a standard Oshii move)
>>289395146tranime is a tourist term. Go back to /v/ /pol/.
>>289395246it's a sharty term
>>289395193Sex within marriage is normal, I don't know why you want a bunch of guys entering your wife.
>>289395263It was not invented on the sharty nor is it exclusive to the sharty, they're just one of many anime-hating groups that use it often
>>289395263Sharty is just refugees from /r9k/ and /trash/they must go back
Nina
>>289395224I literally don't give a shit. Why do you cry bitter tears of shit-filled rage over the fact the new anime looks bad and the original manga was bad? I just don't care.
>>289395291I never said I wanted anything. I'm asking you to make clear what you mean.>Sex within marriage is normal200 years ago, maybe. More and more people have sex and even reproduce without ever marrying. And normal isn't synonymous with "good", or else you'd have to call the current state of affairs, i.e hookup culture, normal. But that's not what you want, is it?
>>289394970Oh excuse us mister, we don't know that the oiled gangbangs of Cyril Brooklyn at the pool with niggers are absolutely fascinating and the same tier as his old series.
me with mangatoko
>>289395246>n-no ulol, is there anything else your rotted brain can say?
>>289395196WTF. Togusa is chosen BECAUSE he is in human body with only cyberbrain as prosthesis. His humanity and vulnerability brings additional perspective major was looking for.To quote the movie "Overspecialize and you breed in weakness"
>>289395430>Keeps replying
Check out the awesome deep takes the slop eaters that follow this crap are making.
>>289395603Not in the manga, no. In the manga he's just Aramaki's man on the inside.Now, thematically, he's kind of a wildcard and therefore useful to S9, which plays into the themes of the manga, but that's not why he was chosen.It's just like with >>289395224Oshii took a thing that the manga sought to demonstrate, and went "well that's just the character's opinion, bro"
>>289394030Kemono Friends
>>289392557I was going to give the new one a chance even though it could obviously never measure up to Oshii´s film but never mind. It is as we feared. GITS has only ever been good with Oshii at the helm and everything else is just trash. Shirow has always been just mediocre by himself.
>>289395754based
>>289395724that's a man BTW
>>289392557I genuinely like the right better. Get fucked.
>>289395476What you don't know is that has ALWAYS been Shirow's style, fuck off racist shitbrain
>>289392557The GitS movie is shit. It's not even on the radar of actual sci-fi fans btw.
>>289392593Why didn't this shit thread end here.
>>289395453Sex outside of marriage is badAdulterers should be taxed and/or fined for being whores
>>289395476umm, yikes! that's... problematic? only evil nazis use that word shitlord. >>289396076so true xister
>>289396041You have shit taste, we know, no need to be so upfront about it.
>>289395453Normal as in, in line with the innate conscience of man we are all born with, that's why I gave the example of other men being with your wife. Even if you're not married, the right reaction is>No, I would not want that at all.Therefore, don't do that to someone else by sleeping with a woman you are not married to. Society is at its best when we treat others as we'd like to be treated ourselves.
>>289396076His style? Who the hell has talked about that? Anon complained about the interracial hentai porn, I tell him that it's only shitty artbooks with no plots made like 20 years after his golden years, he also made stuff with horse cocks.The Appleseed thing is fucking irrelevant, there is no sex and no one care about that cyborg dude being black.
>>289396348I've allowed you to shift the goalposts repeatedly throughout this exchange but that's fine, I didn't expect you to have a solid position.Okay, you've just described the golden rule. Now tell me why this means miscegenation is a universal moral evil.
>>289396603You said it was a harm over and above mere fornication, which doesn't make sense. According to you fornication bad because wanton sex with a woman who may be someone else's wife (in the future) is bad (because you think women are essentially property). Will you explain where the extra harm comes from if the man is of a different race? Murder is bad regardless if it's a person from one race killing his own, or someone from one race killing someone from another race.Also: the "harm" miscegenation happens both ways, even though you frame it as an act exacted by a member of one race onto an entire separate race. How can it be exclusive?
>>289396351yes I know what you said and you're fucking wrong and look like a dumb racist asshole complaining about shit you have literally no familiarity with
>>289392557"We" don't need to recover from anything. TGITS is great.
>>289397379>>>/r9k/
>>289395724That thread was shit and full of retards.
>>289397479I accept your concession.
>>289393071You put it like it's a bad thing.
>>289393071Maybe if your definition of anime is the genuinely infantile slop they've been making since like 2012. Anime used to be an artform and the people who made it took themselves seriously. Now the entire medium has been compressed down into just products to be sold for the maximum value by appealing to demographics in a very naked way. Same thing that happened to most other art since 2008.
>>289392557I like the manga, but something about the new anime's animation style is really uncanny to me. It just doesn't feel 80s/early 90s. Whenever I see a scene I feel like I'm looking at a shitty Xitter compilation made by SEA/spics of "What if (new show) looked retro."
>>289393221did they really censor that
>>289392584explain Never heard of that
>>289398047shut up retard, read and learn some anime history.
>>289392557I think it's because I'm older, but I just can't put up with moe cute girl slop anymore.
>>289397379But what if my husbando is from a shonen but he’s super moe?
fuck it I'll add a cute picture to my post too.>>289397379>Moving onto why it is bad for men of another race to defile your women, if you can just defile theirs also:No, you missed my point again. Nobody's saying "two wrongs make a right". I am asking why miscegenation, on top of being bad, is bad over and above the normal harm of what you call fornication.And your analogy is a labored one. It's really about the oversight of shared spaces and the preservation of culture, which would make sense if you were alluding to immigration or something. Even if I were to steelman what you said it goes something like this:>board culture is created by the ideas and memes shared among posters>memes are like genetic information>the board is the gene pool, comprised of said ideas, memes and narratives, and this gene pool constitutes the race>individuals contribute their ideas (genes) and keep the board (gene pool) a certain way by staying "on-topic".The analogy is weak because individuals don't post the same way their whole lives and their contributions eventually change as the entire board culture changes. An individual's genes are set for life.The only "problem" arises when you deem the crossboarders to have a corrupting influence, or when you decide one board is objectively better than the other. What if the board you post on is already cancerous? Then it would be rather an improvement (for you) if crossboarders posted, especially if they were more humorous or polite or whatever. This would mean crossboarding (miscegenation) isn't a necessarily harmful act like you say it is, since there are cases where both parties can benefit. In the example I've just given, the /mo/ crossboarder avails themselves of your /sho/ board and satisfies their desire, while you the experience a different (and possibly superior) posting experience.>>289397493And this one is better?
>>289398047>People make art that other people likeQuite the revelation, thank you.
>>289392557the manga was always dogshit
>>289398047Yeah, they really took themselves seriously which is why they made Project A-Ko in 1986.
Why do people act like SAC doesn't exist and was very well received too?
>>289392557oshii saved and elevated GitsShirow was and is a fucking hack, even without shitting on his disgusting fetishes
>>289392893>Angel's egg>Avalon>Jin RohOshii is just the better writer, director, artist. He has range, knows when a work needs to be tonally serious. Shitrow is a hack
>>289399314Shirow has plenty of range
>>289399368The lengths of black cocks he draws isn't range
>>289392557People who glaze oshii are such insecure pseudointellectual fags. Watch a real anime like gunbuster
>>289399314Angels Egg is peak pseud thoughJin Roh was much better but still carried by the style and atmosphere.
>>289396891>second parenthesesYes. Lmao. The very fact you think this is a "gotcha" moment proves you're a retarded idiot not worth conversing with
>>289400230shir*w is spiritually am*rican
>>289400404Calm down and go play in the other room, the grown-ups are chatting.
>>289396348Other people don't share your conscience. You are the aberration.
>>289400601How is society collapsing?
>>289392557All Motokos are good.
>>289400652His oneitis got a boyfriend or some shit, you know how sensitive young men are.
>>289392557>we****WE**** dontYOU can fuck off secondary faggotLOL/a/ is such a shithole
>>289400671No, not the ones that are CG or the one who thinks she's Irish.
>>289400652Where do you live?
>>289400601Women's rights have no detrimental impact on society though. Your society is collapsing around you because of the extreme inequalities caused by capitalism and historical power imbalances created by racism and classism which exacerbate those inequalities. In terms of politics, women are much better than men and vote in favor of more stable and less violent outcomes consistently. Women have also been integral to antifascist movements around the world, such as the Madres de Plaza de Mayo. Men, on the other hand, not only commit the vast majority of criminal violence but consistently vote for destabilization and imperialist foreign policy. Of course there's also the over representation of men among fascist oligarchs with the usual short-hand list being figures like Elon Musk, Peter Thiel, and Harlan Crow.
>>289400671what was his problem?
>>289400833terminal autism. imagine that, right?
If you preffer the tranny on the left you're a pseud
>>289400817I am the bait of my sword
>>289395724ret/a/rds arent really an indication of quality in either direction, anon, you know this.
>>289400865Yeah he laid it on too thick, even people on 4chan who lean toward those sorts of ideas would never explicitly use the label "imperialist"
>>289392718They are just fags about their nostalgia they have no respect for anything original. To them the original is what they have seen in their early years, not was actually the original.
Moe won.Ecchi won.Tourist normgroids lost.
/a/rt vs goonart
>>289394030Prisma Ilya
>>289392557The new show is ADHD fueled, I really had troubles watching it and understanding what's even going on, the first thing I did afterwards was rewatch the original.
>>289392593This would solve the third worlder issue as well since they only post here from their cheap chink phones during their 14 hour shifts in the banana mines
>>289403262I hope there are more sexo scenes. Major deserves to get her rocks off
>>289392718unfortunately the 1995 film is better than the original work. or maybe the original work just doesnt work as an anime.it is objectively inferior to the 1995 film
>>289403799>better than the original workMaybe if you're a midwit and only enjoy performing how cult and different something is, even if it's fucking dogshit and boring
>>289395539Very nice.
>>289392718Boomer vs zoomer
>>289403888i used to think it was boring but when you observe the little things and how well theyre done it's just pure kino. current one looks good but it's just all over the place and terribly paced
>>289403912Does Barto ever get his dick wet?
>>289403943He doesn't really give a fuck
I'm here too.
>>289393071truth nuke
>>289403953The government screwed with his brain too much or are women even shittier in the future?
>>289404015The latter, Baton is just too based
>>289403955Not on my shelf, you're not.
>>289403955Was Scarlett really the best choice we could have gotten at the time? Ana de Armas would have gone full nude.
>>289399424Angel's Egg is an incredibly sad story when you know what it's about. It makes me cry when I watch it.
Gremlin Motoko and Oshii Motoko are both great
>>289392584>this thing happened>can we see it?>noFake and gay. More to the point it's one of those retarded points of view that makes you terminally ill. >did you have fun on the harry potter rollercoaster?>no I hate that womanlol
>>289392584>to hear the author was into miscegenation was disheartening,i've put it in more non-white girls than white girls
>>289392584nothing wrong with gaijin male/japanese female
>>289392557praise kek
>>289406671>>289392557Can someone explain, I don't watch anime, is 25 year old remake really having sex and making agehao face?
>>289403955you'll pay dearly for posting this
>>289392584fpbp
>>289398439Again, you miss the point. It's a societal harm instead of a universal evil, because it's damage that occurs to your population. For the majority of users that don't crossboard, this isn't something to appreciate, it's a shit post in their catalog. You should naturally understand why you don't want mudsharks in your dating pool. The same way you should naturally understand why you don't want a nugget of shit in your cereal. Which loops back to my original accusation (which you dodged) >>28939529>I don't know why you want a bunch of guys entering your wife.>What if the board you post on is already cancerous?... In the example I've just given, the /mo/ crossboarder avails themselves of your /sho/ board and satisfies their desire, while you the experience a different (and possibly superior) posting experience.>Wanting your own board culture to be mixed out Is something so warped and disgusting that I didn't even consider it. I will labour the analogy further to accommodate. >crossboarding is miscegenation >we will further specify miscegenation as "sex outside of marriage that occurs against a majority ethnic population of a nation" (i.e. a Japanese female in Japan with a Gaijin male, an Zulu woman in South Africa with an Indian male, etc).>If a woman crossboards for marriage, we will define this as "assimilation", nor will the label of miscegenation be given for non-majority females with majority males (this will be seen as mere fornication, with the obvious goal of eventual assimilation).>For our analogy, this will be a /mo/ poster going and posting about shounen in /sho/ >As we've mutually defined in >>289396891 women are seen as the responsibility/ property of her father, then of her husband (which is signified by her father walking her down the wedding isle in western tradition). As for your "positive" cases, do you like /v/ style X screencap threads? even if something new is "novel' once, any foreign body becomes hateful once constant
>>289392557Glad to see it>nobody likes FLCL anymore>nobody likes Trigun anymore>nobody likes GitS anymoreWhat's next? I really want that Steins Gate remake.
>>289407186Are we really mixing American values with Japanese animu sluts at this point? Your ramblings make no sense.
>>289407124Yes
>>289407124She is very horny
>>289407186the point being, >/mo/ crossboarding is harmful for /sho/>/sho/ crossboarding is harmful for /mo/ but in the analogy, we can only decide whether or not the latter is allowed within our board, obviously destroying /mo/ board culture for a few deranged edge cases that enjoy it (xitter screencap posters) is insanity, and such examples should be permanently banned from the good board of >>>/mo/, that we can ensure the retention of our high quality of discussion.
>>289393204is this good
>>289407216It's just a practical western example, you can call it the "Confucian view of marriage" if it makes it go down any easier.
>>289393159Kek
The show is alright but the absolute boomer seethe on /a/ is what makes it great. The same with Gundam GQuuuuuuX.
>>289407320So GQuuuuuuX being rancid shit was a good thing actually because people called it rancid shit?
>>289407320The masses seethe about anything, it's not just secret club, the entire internet seethed about NTR in FranXX it wasn't just here, it just boiled down to here because the internet is forever pogged.
>>289407349GCusk shat the bed at the end but it was good like a few episodes. But the /a/ threads elevated it.
>>289407376What was good about those few episodes? Would you ever rewatch them? I'm sincerely curious about positive opinions for the show since I legit didn't see anything at all good in it.
>>289407320But it's zoomer tourists who started watching anime during covid who seethed about Gqux. Boomers broke down in tears hearing Beyond the Time after writing five pages about what they thought a "Zeon wins" what if would be like.
>>289407433Actually I cringed to death at how retard anno and his cronies were trying to ruin a classic anison
>>289407420I've watched the first episode multiple times. It's really well made and I love Machu. I really don't give a crap about Gundam. Or GITS.
>>289407367Darling in the Franxx NTR was justified, they were left to either die or wander the galaxy forever, good for the main pair, good on him for dropping that whiney bitch childhood friend for best girl. Also good for that girl that dropped the fat fuck, wouldn't want her to spend one lightyear or the rest of her days with that overweight faggot.
>>289404322what is it about?
>>289407518No one knows. It's a dude and a girl walking in Dark Souls while things happen around them. But it's kind of mesmerizing and incredible.
>>289399314Jin Roh was not made by Oshii.
>>289407518Uncertainty or potentialWhat else could it be aboutThere's an egg which may or may not contain something that's it the entire shitty movie idk why kids act like that trash is good
>>289407518Where is God? The film is set on an overturned Noah's arc that sailed for so long it capsized, and society restarted atop its hull, and that there ever was meant to be another fate is forgotten. Shadow men chase shadow fish forever because that is existance. Doing the same thing forever until eventually you fade away. The boy in the film could be Satan, he could even be Christ. It doesn't really matter. What he wants is an answer from God. Prayers don't get God's attention. Shattering the Angel's Egg, however, did. Perhaps like an ignored child, only misbehavior can attract God's attention for a moment.
>>289407646This sounds pretentious as fuck.My interpretation was that the egg contained some monster that would destroy the world like it had before. They showed a creepy skeleton at one scene. The guy destroys the egg and goes back to the beginning to wait for a new egg.
>>289407663What do you think the giant cathedral with an unblinking eye is? To me, that is God.
>>289407646All of this is pure conjectured invented from Oshi talking about his belief in these nonsensical desert savage religions. None of this is drawn from watching the film itself.
>>289407693Oshii thought that was cool.
>>289407715The film zooms out and shows you that the land the movie takes place on is a capsized boat hull, and references a twisted form of the story of Noah's Ark earlier.
>>289407757Oshii has always been this cool.
>>289407646I really don't think you thought any of that while watching the movie. Unless you are really religious or read Wikipedia or something.
>>289407894You can watch a film more than once.
>>289407910I've watched twice while drunk. It's the epitome of 2deep4u and you'll never get it but that's kind of the point. It's an art film and your interpretation is fine.
are the cyborgs really still human, or are they just robots made to believe they have fleshy human parts and are thus originally human? if you can transfer your consciousness into another robot body and don't need to stay in your original one anymore, you're just some weird erratic program.
Did you guys know the GITS threads would get this bad?
>>289408374>GITS threadsDid those even exist? Maybe once a year people gathered up.
>>289408374Yes>pseuds>oldgoodnewbadfags>censorshipschizos>/pol/tards>"I watched Bebop and Outlaw Star on Toonami, I'm basically an expert" normalfagsThreads were doomed the moment this show was announced
>>289407186If you think Shirow's stuff is supposed to be promoting miscegenation then you clearly haven't actually looked at much of his coomer shit. (Which admittedly I can't blame you for.) He's a deranged coomer who's obsessed with drawing coomer girls getting gangbanged by monsters and other non-human creatures. His other work features weird muscular horse men and robots doing the same thing. When he draws stuff with black guys it's not because he's in favor of interracial relationships, it's because he sees them as subhuman and enjoys portraying women being degraded by them. It probably plays back into his famous comment in the original GitS manga that he made the sex scene lesbian because he thought drawing a dick was gay too, and he probably feels like it's less gay when it's a monster dick instead of something he can relate to.
>>289407518It's Evangelion before Evangelion
>>289392557First rule of OP post faggotry: you don’t recover
>>289392557Has Oshii ever talked about why he chose a zany gimmick manga as the basis for a grim borderline-art-movie meditating on what it means to be human and have a soul?
Old good new badIt really is that simple
>>289408509>When he draws stuff with black guys it's not because he's in favor of interracial relationships, it's because he sees them as subhuman and enjoys portraying women being degraded by them.This is basically why IR porn exists at all. Which is why all the men tend to be faceless, so they can be Othered.
>>289392893Oshii worked on the first two Patlabor movies, with the second in particular being very serious, political, and stark. The second Patlabor film likely shaped most of the direction for his GitS film.
I'm glad this show exist because it's made fun threads.
https://youtu.be/0vGOhXYALY4
>>289403955Literal dogshit.
>>289392718>muh faithfulness to the original workWell, it's not positive if the original work is shit. That's the case here.
>>289409113Yeah, but try telling that to people from a certain other corner of this website.
>>289392584Shirow should be lynched, lol.
>>289392557Yeah the new anime is heavily censored but I don't complain.I thought about it, who really has the right to complain about censorship? In my opinion, you need to at least buy the manga in some meaningful capacity in order to have some sort of commercial right to complain about stuff like the GiTS anime censorship.Like you need to purchase 5 manga volumes at the very least, otherwise you're getting mad over something you never invested a single dollar into.
>>289410478The original manga is only one volume. I have the apparently super rare uncensored one that they released in the early '00s, along with MMI. I'm not complaining though, I get that there's a limit to what they can get away with in an anime that's supposed to be for a relatively mainstream audience. So far they've been very true to the stuff that actually matters and I'm really happy about that.
>>289410478No one has a right to complain unless the government sends someone out to your house to cut the boobs out of your manga and bans the sale of the original. An adaption not having nudity is not censorship; no one is owed anything from an adaption.
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>>289403955watched this on a plane ride to kill time once. it sucked but wasn't unwatchable.
the 95 and sac people are publicly adopting a "3 cakes" policy in regards to the state of gits but i like seeing that deep under that facade they're getting fried by their own blood for being posers. thank you /a/
>>289410811>ilya not even mentioned in any discussionkek was it that bad
>>289392557I'll never stop enjoying americans discovering anime are about stupid cartoon faces, sex and goofy shit.You have a century of your own edgy cinema to enjoy, get the fuck out of my chinese cartoons if you can't handle the cringe.
>>289398287A little bit, anons are perhaps forgetting how censored the original western release of the manga was.
>>289392557kek
>>289393363The manga is just a fun action packed cyberpunk comic with political tones, it only really asks an existential question towards the end. The movie was just oshii (who has always wanted to be an art house director) taking that existential question and masturbating with it. It's still a good movie in its own right, but it's nothing like the original.Stand Alone Complex then riffs off the original manga stories, but takes more from the tone of the movie rather than the manga. Sadly that's the (one dimensional) major most people recognise today, which is why you have so many plebbitors pissing and crying about the original not being the "real one".
>>289398116That retro feel you're missing is mostly because anime is digitally coloured and composite these days instead of hand painted cells shot on photo film.
>>289392557that still of her on the right looks like something from scott pilgrim so i will not be watching it.
>>289392718>Recover? From people being actually faithful to original work?the original work is shit. oshii saved it. being faithful to juvenile dogshit is pointless lol
>>289394278eva is teen shit man, sorry. it's insane u think it is anywhere near akira or gits
>>289407218>technobabble and more technobabbleNo one talks like this while having sex.
I can get behind the idea of a more manga inspired GiTS, but if it's really a panel for panel adaptation, that sounds kind of shit actually. The manga wasn't that good.
>>289394142He is not black, he is north african, so it's probably an arab dicking a white girl
>>289392557OG movie > Innocence > SAC > 2045 > Saru > Arisebut you guys aren't ready for this conversation
>>289409113I've always viewed interracial porn as a kind of subset of bestiality.
>>289407186>little girl avatarfaggingWhy do you even care, it's not like you're ever gonna touch a woman.
>>289411684>but it's le originalYou keep repeating that argument as if it matters. Most fans of GitS don't even like the manga, nobody sees it as the definitive version of GitS just because it came first. People see it as inspiration for better works that followed
>>289394030Any movie by ghibli. Even the bad ones
>>289394278Anno is a one trick pony that kept rehashing the exact same movie for 30+ years because his lack of creativity
>>289411684>major>sac>one dimensionalkill yourself
>>289411958it's easily better than GitSGitS is like the most mediocre franchise ever, that is fondly remembered because the movie had good direction and came along at the right time.The writing almost never hits with GitS. The ideas are there, but it's vague and messy, and people keep pulling it in different directions. There's like no through-line to this franchise at all.
>>289412309>The ideas are there, but it's vague and messy, and people keep pulling it in different directionsYeah that is a problem, it's a vagueposting franchise. Another problem is the episodic nature of SAC/Arise. Some of the SAC episodes are actually worse than 2045 episodes, the quality is really uneven
>>289412365And I think SAC in particular really struggles to pick a tone, with the zany Tachikomas.And I don't really care for the Major as a character in a lot of GitS adaptations. She becomes this kind of generic badass woman, without a personality. I find myself caring more about Batou and Togusa, because they're more like actual people.
>>289410478You haven't paid for my opinion. You can't criticize it.
GITS fags are insufferable. It's just some stupid cartoon, wake up.
