How tf nobody did a thread. An interesting development may be happening.Besides, Mayu hot af.
>>289394620if the slampig doesn't fuck the mc i don't care
>>289394675Somebody dump then.Momiji came off as legitly resentful of Mikoma and didn't like that Roka is showing more attention to him than her.Mayu tried to convince Taiki to stop hanging with Mikoma, but failed, legitly explained the reason he could connect with him and that may have turned a wrong switch in Mayu bc she deliberately showed her cleavage to Miko.Don't worry people, the insanity Ryou has us used to is about to cum.
>>289394675She is going to make an attempt, if nothing else. This chapter all but confirms it. She unwittingly discovered that Mikoma, just like her, 'has no place to belong to.' When she heard that Ebihara and Mikoma were bonding because of that similarity -- she replied it "sounded nice." Red flag. In telling Ebihara to shoo Mikoma away from the mountain, she will be there to comfort him as a fellow "kindred spirit" in Ebihara's place. She was already giving him the fuck me eyes while watching him run off through the rear view mirror. And he was already tempted by those soaking wet titties. It's over.
I’d be down to dump but might take 20 or so minutes. Dumping something else right now
>>289394943Hopefully Ryou owns to her own insanity.Mayu comes off as an upgrade to Yuri, so i welcome some hot /ss/... as long as Manga plus doesn't give the black bar-chan or paywall'd chapter treatment.
>>289394620>An interesting development may be happening.Doesn't that describe the whole series?
Shikishi time (1/3)
>>289395133(2/3)This one was given to the winner of a contest during a masterclass conference.
I'll dump if no one else will
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>>289395170And this one was the frog editorial who edited Boys abyss there.About the chapter... the obvious: Momiji showing more hatred at Mikoma bc Roka cares more about him than his gf, honestly think if Taiki shoos Mikoma away from his beloved mountain, Miko will go full school shooter on the whole fucking town, even Mayu won't be safe.Someone has to make him feel he has a place where he can belong.
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>>289395212Ah I was about to start in a couple of minutes, but thank you.
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>>289395322What the fuck did she mean by this
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>>289395343Momiji is a good girl and is scared for Miko going up to a mountain owned by a mysterious stranger, the mountain could be cursed.
>>289395322>>289395343She legit thinks Mikoma's a psychopath who got possessed by le mountain.It's obvious she finds Miko's existence disgusting.
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>>289395343more games being played with Roka and Miko
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>>289395356el maricon...
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>>289395356Makita pissed at Mikoma for no reason...>>289395383Come on, she wasn't worried, neither scared...She was SEETHING.
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>>289395343Roka knows, she's afraid of Miko not caring for her anymore
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>>289395396I would've folded.
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>>289395343I'm still trying to figure out why Roka puts up with her bullshit when it's obvious that he can see it?
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>>289395343bitches fear the mountain-tism
>>289395514End
>>289394943>>289394888would you say this was a good chapter?
>>289395492I'm still going with my theory that she's a beard and that he's gay
>>289395492Her pussy must be unfathomably tight
>>289395532thanks for the dump
>>289395492Like he said in chapter 1, it's easier to go along with her than fight her.sounds familiar?
>>289395322>still swapping their ribbon and tieSurely this calls for a soft discipline?
>>289395396what did ryo mean by this?
>>289395535Another setup. Better than the previous one for sure.I feel this is where Ryou's signature depravation will finally ignite again.
>>289395514>first person to stand with Mikoma and empathize with himoh no, something tragic is going to happen. this is Everybody Hates Mikoma the manga and having an ally would lessen his suffering.
>>289395566Roka must break the curse and stand up against Momiji.It's obvious she is using him to spite at Mikoma.
>>289395535slow but it's good setup
I just really want to know why Momiji has out for Mikoma so badly, I'm going with what someone mentioned in another thread, she had a crush on him as a kid but has grown to despise him because of his mountain fixation.
>>289395532Thanks OP>kindred spirits>"that sounds nice"hag assault inminent for lucky bastard Mikoma
>>289395672He's 100% going to push her away because of his oneitis.Also, there's 100% going to be an accident on the mountain. it's been brought up way too much for it to not come into play at some point
>>289395322>>289395343If she is scared of Miko there is an obvious contradiction with how she acts. Either they are planning something or it's not him she's scared of.
>>289395535Yes, I do. Last two were a bit on the slower side, but they culminated nicely here. >Momiji's resentment towards Mikoma for the first time blatantly on display>Depending on her "scared" comment, she is either attempting to manipulate Roka into "protecting" her (he sees through her bullshit) or highlighting that she is losing control (as Mikoma is happy ) and it makes her SEETHE. >Mayu is here to cause a rift between Ebihara and Taiki, which will tear down Mikoma's high spirits. >Mayu is now strongly hinted to be in full "groom" mode and act as his confidant when split from the mountain/Ebihara.It's picking up.
>>289395426*la marimacho
>>289395396Are these the thickest tits Ryou drew since Hatsukoi Zombie days?
>>289395396>>289395532Is she that much of a nympho? Surely with that body and a little patience she can find something that won't destroy her life.
All the Mayu/Mikoma stuff feels like an inentional feint with Ryou playing off her reputation.
>>289395465Me too
Are we going to see mayu's bare ass
>>289395890It's not immoral to fuck a teenager in some absolute bumfuckistan
>>289395887I want to see the rest. Ebino was peak because she had thiccness on a tight midsection.
>>289395461Poor Taiki, only Miko wants to see his cabin
>>289395715>He's 100% going to push her away because of his oneitis.Kek. As if he would push her away. He already got enticed by her tits lmao.Now the battle is for who will give Mikoma that place he can belong to.Inb4 it's gonna be Makita
>>289395984You tell that to all the people around when they find out.
>>289395937>mayu's bare assProbably... with black bars or imaginative censorship.She's a fucking lardass tho, so expect a flabby and cellulitis ridden lowwr body, but some juicy tits... also with some censorship for us westoids.
>>289395909Agreed. Mayu's more likely to fall for Ebihara. She's already started to, going by this page >>289395428
>>289395356I wonder when Makita is finally going to become relevant. She's been shown too much and is too distinctive to just be a background character
>>289396057Miko's parents dont give a shit about him, Momiji may get angry solely because she's no longer to take Miko's first time, same with Roka
>>289396102Yea, that was always what I saw as the outcome. Both of them are exiled damaged people and can relate to each other. Easy to have them hookup, then Mikoma sees them together and feels betrayed once again, which is a very teenager thing to do, especially for someone whose going through as much emotional abuse as Mikoma is
>>289396102I think those are face fault lines, not a blush, but it's a bit ambiguous.
>>289396176Definitely not a blush, the lines go over her eyes
>>289396141As if the entire town isn't going to know regardless. Momiji if you're right about her would make sure to destroy her. Parents don't care until they care, out of their own self-image if nothing else.
Am I being forgetful or has no one asked why the fuck he wears a leaf or why he masks up when working alone in the woods
>>289395343Well there goes my theories.Oh shit could the mountain actually be something traumatic or better yet haunted?
>>289396166If this goes le "Everybody hates the MC" manga, then i can bet on that. But that will only rush Mikoma's flipout into school shooter. Thing is that, maybe Roka will be the 1st victim of a Mikoma forma Supremo Caballero.Anyway... if we go by a kishoutenketsu structure for this story, the twist moment may end being either Momiji... or Makita pulling a desperate confession on a triggered Mikoma. Basically a foil of El Trolazo's confession, different situation, but same weight: throw all her resentment at the MC in his face, explain the reasons she hated him... only to reveal she can't bring to fully despise him because of feelings.But in this case, i think Roka will end up becoming the unwanted body count.A reminder this is a love/hate & tragedy story more than a mountain drama. And the opposite of love isn't hate, but apathy. Hate is just the other face of love.
>>289395300Miko reminds me of myself once with this page god he is so pure here if anything happens to my boy I'm going to cry
Momiji buried a body in the mountain and doesnt want Miko to find out duh
>>289395356It may be the case that: she hates that the power balance is being broken and appearances are starting to melt away.Or maybe i'm just readinf too much into to it.
>>289395356The curse of being a childhood friend.
>>289396283he's an awkward guyalso doesn't like to show his scars
>>289395343>fuck my life
>>289396395My guess is that she thought she had him all figured out and under her thumb, but now he's changing and all the things she was sure about are gone and she's left completely terrified that she can't control him.Everything about her so far has been about being the puppet master but now suddenly one of her close ones no longer has strings for her to pull on.
>>289396443>>289395343I really fucking hope Roka doesn't think he has any right to be upset with her for fucking with Mikoma when he's directly doing the same thing as her. Both of them are equally guilty of abusing him.
>>289396166Exactly, he sees the most supportive people in his life have their own thing together, reminding him of Momiji and Roka.>>289396176You don't recognize the dazed look in her eyes?>>289395396This page is part misdirection, part Mikoma's hindbrain noticing she's horny and that making him uncomfortably aware of her as a sexual being. She's giving off pheromones like crazy.
>>289395909>>289396102I'm not so convinced, Mayu won't be into older girls.
>>289395890She is fat for nips standards
>>289395890>Surely with that body and a little patience she can find something that won't destroy her lifeShe's living in the sticks; she doesn't have many options. Then again, she's applying her Tokyo Girlboss attitude to the dating out in the boonies, so she can go fuck herself.
>>289395396>that faint skindentation on the seatbeltgod fucking bless Ryoubest modern mangaka
>>289395411>NO WAY, FAG
>>289395396Neuron activation.
>everyone is actively trying to keep the MC away from the mountain How many bodies are buried up there? Wonder if his grandpa did some nasty shit up on the mountain?
>>289395343Type of Karen to keep approaching and following you while you're trying to leave while yelling "YOU'RE SCARING ME,SIR" ,I finished Boy's Abyss after hearing for it so long and it was a shitshow
>>289396680I thought it might be Momiji’s grandpa that did something sus.
>>289395396godi love tits
>>289396554That was another instance of obvious bait. Just cause she doesn't want to fuck bald potbellied grandpas doesn't mean she's into teenagers.
>>289395535>two half-page panels of Ryou tittiesbest chapter so far
>>289395396>these aren't my glasses
>>289396742You call it bait now but I don't think so, I also don't think Taiki will pursue a relationship.
Taiki biologically cannot breed Mayu so it's ashamed if she gets paired with a man that can't make her pregger
>>289396795I don't see them dating either, I can easily see them just fucking though.
>>289396835This sudden Taiki/Mayu theory stuff isn't going anywhere, obviously Mayu will go for Mikoma and Momiji will seethe and suddenly try to "protect" her "friend" from the older lady.
>>289396859Not even that anon, Taiki just wants to live in peace.
>>289395532>>289395396>shows more cleavage in car than when she was standingUhhh lady, what are you doing?
>>289396795This is "everybody hates Mikoma: the manga".Count on Mayu doing something to Taiki simply to make the story have Mikoma descend into hatred at everybody, not only Momiji.And knowing her writing style, expect something that will make things go back into a fragile status quo around the end lf the 1st third of the story. Be it Momiji confessing in an attempt to regakn her leash over Mikoma or Makita confessing she wants the old Mikoma from their childhood back and Mikoma returning to simp, but empty inside simp with nothing going for him.
>>289396975You dipping too far into this whole "everybody hates Mikoma" and this sudden Mayu/Taiki angle.
>>289396166I though this as well at first, but after thinking a little bit more about it I really can't imagine Ebihara wanting another romantic relationship for a while. With all the traumatic shit he went through with his ex wife I think getting into another relationship is the last thing he would want. Though Mayu could still fall for him.
>>289395343F*male already scheming on how to ruin the mc.
>>289396918I choose to interpret it that the clothes are loose because she got dressed in a hurry after fucking Taiki.
>>289397056That never happened.
>>289395376Is Ebihara's name Tabata or am I forgetting names already?
>>289397190>Ebihara's nameTaiki
>>289395343>umbrella splitting both their faces in halfWhat does it mean?
>>289397056That shit never happened.Mayu was deliberately showing the cleavage to Mikoma.If you pick the previous chappy, it's clear as water she's projecting herself hard into Mikoma because of a self perceived shared naivete, and Taiki's words simply triggered the Yuri within her.
>>289397254Bingo, finally someone gets it.
I hope this doesn't turn into some ritual/cult hentai plot thing. It feels like everyone knows something about the mountain that the MC is completely oblivious to.
>>289395356What's her deal? Makita is always seething at Miko
>>289397321She's gay
>>289397056Taiki is a fast guy then.
>>289397321She's caught on that Mikoma causes Momiji anxiety and has decided he's scaring her princess.
>>289397217Thanks mang
I'm glad this whole Taiki/Mayu thing is just crack theory, it's obvious Mayu is only going to go after Mikoma.
>>289397423What if she finds out the reason Mikoma acts like that is not because of being Momiji's simp, but bc of a mountain??Nvm, she'll end despising him further
>>289395396RYO WE KNOW WHERE YOU'RE GOING WITH THIS.
>>289395343Did Miko show his cock to Momiji or something? Did something happen while they were playing in the mountains? Did she get diddled by the grandpa and Miko just watched?
>>289397531I honestly think it's as simple as Momiji liked Miko when they were kids but he just kept fixated on the mountain when she was evolving to become a stacey and she wanted him to be her chad but when he didn't notice her feelings she started dating Roka (who needed a beard to hide his gayness or Momiji blackmailed him or something)
>>289396892A working penis never wants to live in peace.
>>289397558Thats too gay, I'm sticking with the Momiji getting diddled.
>>289397593Women have the gayest logic, yes.
>>289397649You're gay anon. It's time to let yourself out.
>>289395063Yep, the author is a master at creating telenovela tier drama, trash, but always leaving you wanting more
>>289397562Yes anon a WORKING penis.
>>289397682>Five consecutive weeks>Knowing this will give you insight into the "thinking" of a serialized manga artist!!>Learn the basics of manga from Ryo Minenami!!>A special interview with Ryo Minenami, author of "Saneki" and "Shounen no Abyss"!! We delve into the important points at each stage of the journey from winning a newcomer award to serialization, with the experienced Minenami-sensei!!>What are the key points to keep in mind when creating a storyboard...?>~For those aiming for a newcomer award~>Show your work to your assigned editor!! Week 3 will teach you the key points to keep in mind when creating storyboards!!>- What do you keep in mind when trying to organize the story with a clear beginning, middle, and end, and include climactic moments, within a limited number of pages?R: It's difficult when you're consciously trying to incorporate climactic moments, but once you can do it without even thinking about it, you've become a truly accomplished weekly manga artist! To become that kind of trained monster, you just have to keep drawing over and over again. Becoming a monster is also part of the fun of drawing manga, so shouldn't you be honest with your desire to draw?>—What is necessary to be mindful of the number of pages during the storyboarding stage?R: I think you just have to make it a habit. Back when I was working a part-time job doing cash register transactions, I gradually became able to tell the difference between ten thousand-yen bills worth ten thousand yen just by the feel of my fingers. I think it's something similar to that.>—That's interesting. So, quantity is necessary to get the right feel for it.Yes, I think we really just have to keep going.(1/?)
>>289395532If only all three of them could live in the cabin together. Unfortunately I think there'd be a sex scandal.Miko would definitely feel betrayed in some abstract way if Mayu "stole" Taiki from their broes before hoes alliance
>>289397898>—What do you pay attention to when it comes to panel layout?R: I tend to include too much dialogue, so I try to be mindful of the distribution to make it easy to read. I also try not to overcomplicate the panel layouts. It might be a matter of personal preference, but if it's too meticulously detailed like a manga, it makes me feel like I'm reading a manga, and it becomes harder to become immersed in the story.>—You seem to put a lot of thought into designing your manga, but are there any other things you keep in mind? For example, are there any particular things you pay attention to when laying out plot points?R: While plot twists are meant to engage the reader, if every character has a plot twist, it becomes impossible to tell whose plot twist is whose. If you plant a lot of plot twists even when the reader isn't interested in the characters, and then resolve them later, they'll probably only remember it vaguely. Therefore, I think it's important not to rely too much on plot twists, and to be careful not to overdo it.>—Could you share some tips on how to differentiate character designs during the storyboard stage?R: As I add dialogue and other details, an image of what the character might look like starts to emerge. Furthermore, it's probably essential that the character is easy for me to draw. If I force myself to create a difficult character design, I'll likely regret it later.
>>289397953>—Your color illustrations are wonderful, but are there any particular things you keep in mind during the sketching stage, such as composition?R: That's right. I actually feel insecure about my drawing abilities, so I don't really know what's good about them myself. To be honest, I don't particularly enjoy drawing, but if you ask me if I want to be the original author, I think I'd probably tell the artist that the expression here is wrong, so in the end I think I have no choice but to draw it myself. So I'm not good at drawing, and I don't think I'm particularly skilled, but I have this feeling that only I can draw this expression at this moment, so there's nothing I can do about it. Rather than focusing on whether it's good or bad, I'm working with the intention of showing something that can only be seen from this artist.(Picrel: *The color illustration from episode 1 of "Sangeki" features striking expressions from Mikoma and Momiji!!)(3/3)Sauce: https://youngjump.jp/comic_award/interview/2026/07/index3.html
>>289397930Everything points at Momiji's fears being validated and Mikoma actually being a psychopath that was about to lash out.
raws doko
>>289398014>constantly push Mikoma to the edge>he finally lashes out>"SEE I TOLD YOU HE WAS UNSTABLE"
Until this chapter I was operating under the assumption that Roka was his friend. I think that was a mistake on my part, seems more like he's someone who he happens to know since they're in a small community and they're the same age.
>>289398099What makes you think Roka is not his friend? What in this chapter suggests that?
>>289398099I think they were probably friends as kids then drifted apart.Still weird that Roka came all the way to let Miko know he'd started dating Momiji, but with hindsight that may have been another one of Momiji's master plans.
>>289398187That fact he goes along with this girl he dislikes to torment and manipulate Miko. That is not friend behaviour, he might not actively dislike Miko but he certainly isn't being kind.
Saw this thread and binged this series, I don't understand why the MC wants to cuck himself like this for such a boring girl when he could put his heart and soul into loving the bath nanny or even the book freak. These pretty popular high school heroines are so dull, I don't give a fuck if she's psycho or whatever, I want to see less of her.
>>289397987Thanks mang.
>>289397953>Therefore, I think it's important not to rely too much on plot twists, and to be careful not to overdo it.she's going to fill this manga to the brim with plot twists now
>>289398254>I don't understand why the MC wants to cuck himself like this for such a boring girl Well he doesn't anymore. In fact his loss of interest in her appears to be crucial to the story.
>>289397558Yup. This is where I have been standing these last few months. Momiji's resentment towards Miko and his attachment to the mountain is too personal. It mirrors his festering rancor of her, predicated on unreciprocated feelings and or failure to adhere to the ideal of her that he has in his head. And right now, he is not the Mikoma she "knows" -- the one obsessing over her whose feelings she cannot manipulate. It upsets her. Especially now. As (from her perspective) who has paradoxically gotten over his mountaintism, but is also cutting her off AND he's happy. To The Queen™, this is unacceptable. And he must be put back in his place and reminded of who he needs to be worshipping. He's getting uppity and that BITCH, Mayu is going to be the in the cross hairs soon.
>>289398254>why the MC wants to cuck himself like this for such a boring girlReread the last 5 chapters. He stood her up and it's kind of hinted the innkeeper's bazoongas made him feel enticed.
>>289398254he's not your self-insert
>>289398307>In fact his loss of interest in herAn understatement if you ask me. It's actually a growing resentment turning into hatred.This is a love/hate story after all.
>>289398307>>289398314Are you guys retarded. He definitely still likes her.
>>289398099Roka has no reason to hang out with him if they weren't friends.
>>289398370but they don't hang out
>>289394620im familiar with this mangaka but was never interested in her works. decided to give this a read and its pretty good so far. i just dont get why momoji seems to hate mikoma. im assuming she had a thing for him in the past but he was too focused on the mountain and hanging out with his gramps to notice her crush. also they were literal kids so why would he care about romance in the first place? i cant tell if she still has feelings for him (and is dating roka to make him jealous) or if she wants to torment the guy as revenge or its just a mix of both to mirror ebihara and his crazy wife. the first chapter shows them as a happy couple so i guess it'll turn out fine..
>>289398349How? He stood her up and all the Taiki x Mikoma connection was around Miko's growing resentment at Momiji.The raw blurb for the 1st chapter also tells this is more of a hate story than a love one>What we call it an ideal, it's actually a curse, what we call hatred, it's actually salvation.
>>289398432He can hate on her later on if the story calls for it, but right now there's nothing to point towards him not liking her anymore, he stood her up because he befriended the weird guy she's scared of. Don't lie and say he wouldn't immediately accept a love confession from her right now.
>>289398314>made him feel enticed.a horny teenager blushing over big tits doesnt mean anything serious desu. whatever he feels for momiji isnt gone and its the same on her end, even its a mixture of love/hate. shes losing him to the mountain again and its making her seethe
>>289398349>entire chapter about leafbro gently reassuring him "you don't have to eat this shit you hate just because you're male">cue giant image of momiji in place of the meat in the frying panIn today's chapter he's clearly still stung by seeing the hottie couple together, but smiles as he shows off his independence and symbolically leaves them behind to attend to his own passions. He wants to get over his previous fantasies about her, considering he's so disenchanted with her personality every time he sees her do/post anything.
>>289398512You have to be actively ignoring half the fucking Miko panels to not see him absolutely despising her. Once you're past the first few chapters and he's accepted that his idealized Momiji doesn't exist and he starts disliking her for her behaviour it's quite obvious that his love has turned to hate.Fucking him and mountain bro talking about "it's okay to hate the things you hate" and the visual metaphor of him forcing himself to like boar meat because it was something he felt he had to like morphing into Momiji in the pan was pretty fucking plainly spelling it out.
>>289398614but theyre in the mountain together in the first chapter. its how the story opens up unless that was a glimpse of the past..
>>289397987>So I'm not good at drawing, and I don't think I'm particularly skilledkind of wildi can't think of an artist who does better female bodies than her
>>289395300What a fucking dork
>>289398650Anon, refer to >>289398432 That is his IDEAL of her. His delusions. And because she fails to meet said ideal, he resents her.
>>289398657Once you're skilled enough, you start to realize just how inadequate you are compared to people really succeeding.
>>289395396That's the shit right there
>>289398614He hates that she doesn't love him, not literally her. He's finding excuses as to try and move on from someone who doesn't share the same feelings for him.
>>289395411>INSTANT no way fag That's my MC
>>289398765Yea bro, he really fucking loves her so much. >ugh, just the thought of putting her on the mountain taints the entire thing. put that shit in the trash >>289398586
Endgame.
>>289398799i want wild feral sex with this creature as well
>>289395532Easy woman
>>289395212what a happy couple...
>>289395270>tilting the umbrella to protect her from rain while getting soaked from right sideroka is such a doormat faggot.
>>289398799Self inserting a little too hard, anon. That said, I do wonder how Makita's eavesdropping of Momiji being "scared" will dictate her forthcoming actions. Just leave Mikoma alone, holy shit.
>>289398793Yeah, reintroducing your unrequited love to your safe place just after making a friend there whom she fears will have you having these thoughts.
>>289395270>giving her cover while letting his own side get soaked.roka is a such a doormat.
>>289398910I've soul read this manga and ran the data with my team, the endgame will in fact happen.
>>289395322>>289395343Why are women so evil?
>>289395343yeah girls can tell when you are an incel or have the potential for it
>>289397225knife slice vertically along the face.
>>289395376>she's wet too.focus miko focus.
>>289395446cute.
>>289395514>>289395532I love this manga, thanks for the dump.
>>289398910did she even heard them? I thought it was just a gag cutaway.
>>289399245hear*
wtf is thisdid mangaka just create a whole new manga with obviously not mother character and obviously not sensei character? kek
>>289399245Her reaction clearly indicates she heard them. But seeing that panel as a "gag" comes off as a misread to me as there is nothing humourous about the preceding scene or Makita's reaction. Ryou would not have placed that panel there if Makita would not have a future adverse response. She seems like a gag character at first, but her last conversation with Mikoma shows she knows when to be serious. And given Momiji's "fear", she is likely to do something stupid as she has on two occasions reprimanded him for either glowering at her or "scaring" her.
>>289399293>not mother character Momiji's literally Teen Yuuko+Chunko forma simp de Esemori.>and obviously not sensei characterMayu says hello.
>>289399361Anon, he was being sarcastic.
>>289399354Inb4 Makita will be the first who will get a taste of a flipped out Mikoma and realize Momiji isn't what cursed him.Inb4 he'll death threat Makita into not getting into his way or else he'll fucking kill her.
>he isn't being a mountainsimp or a mesimp>TASKUTE, SAVE ME SERVANT-KUN >I AM TERRIFIED THAT HE IS HIS OWN PERSON
>>289399442>Roka Miko is being happy again, we have to stop him
>>289399480Ryou truly knows how to capture and portray the female mindset
A reminder we are up to another character yet to be introduced...Chiho's daughter.Inb4 she is Mikoma's both polar opposite and parallel and also shares the feeling of not belonging to the place she's in
>>289399585She is less than 7 years old anon
>>289399585>Chiho's daughter.what if there is a timeskip in the future and she ends up being the endgame for miko?
The ex wife will come to the mountain at some point https://x.com/i/status/2074082402759270533
>>289398799>Am I beautiful Miko?I CAN SEE IT. THE PLOT TWIST.
this is the perfect manga for /a/ incels, you finally get to make a thread every week to cry about women without getting called out
>>289395461If Miko heard her, he would have raped her right there.
>>289399703KEK, I kneel
>>289399740Somehow she is the only person that cares about Mikoma.
>>289400132Feels more like a very selfish version of caring where she's projecting all her failures on him and by "guiding" him she can feel better. She's just using him
when does the innocence rape start?
>>289400175Therefore, Yuri.I have telegraphed this manga, it will be revealed it's Momiji the one who legitly cared
there is 0 chance miko would fuck mayu well
>>289395343How much more can Roka stand?
>>289395411>no way fag There might be hope for Miko after all. He's got a looong way before he can handle Momiji but it's a start.
>>289395396>>289395411>tits are temporary>mountains are forever
>>289395532>That sounds nice...She's just too fucking easy for those fast-talking Tokyo guys
>>289395532Great chapter. >>289395343She's threatened by Mikoma leaving the social dynamics decided for him. Meaning, she only feels like a princess if there are poor fuckers like Mikoma in love with her. When he's growing to dismiss his toxic feelings for her, she's left feeling normal, and that's what she's threatened by. She doesn't want to be normal.
>>289400861Boobs are...two mountains.
>>289396554Mayu is back in the boonies. She has no other choice than to go for unmarried weirdos, old widowers, or strangers like Taiki because anyone young has already paired up or moved out of town.
>>289400940>Meaning, she only feels like a princess if there are poor fuckers like Mikoma in love with her. When he's growing to dismiss his toxic feelings for her, she's left feeling normal, and that's what she's threatened by. She doesn't want to be normal.What will make Momiji reveal her true self to Mikoma then?Him going Elliot Rodger on the whole class?
>>289401078You just know she will be the key for Mikoma's growth together with Mayu and Ebihara.
>>289401079>What will make Momiji reveal her true self to Mikoma then?Miko will sooner or later feel betrayed by Taiki. By the foundation of the story itself, the mountain/safe space/home/salvation whatever you want to call it, is no longer his. And Momiji fucking his friend is more reason for him to be angry. With the mountain gone, I figure by that time Roka will be too sick to deal with Momiji's bullshit.>Him going Elliot Rodger on the whole class?I doubt that. These are just characters who are overdramatic.
>>289400746He's gonna snap next week.
>>289395356>>289401078Bitch don't be mad you told him to be weird.
>>289401125Either that or she becomes the main "villain"
The sensei comparison couldn't be any more apt. She's really expressive and you can tell she's Ryou's fun character.
>>289401256>U NO GLOWER UPON MUH PRINCESS>*Does nothing but smile and leave Momiji alone and tries to move on*>Momiji: "I'm scared.">REEEEEEEEEThe fuck is Makita's problem?
I think the umbrella represents society and rain represents the falling out of the social order. Miko, Taiki, and Mayu are all resigned from society so they get wet in the rain, characters like Momiji and Roka stay together to play their role in society as a couple, when Miko just runs off, it's like he's showing off his freedom. The intersting thing is Makita's umbrella is broken, meaning, she's a freak like Mikoma as well, but she's playing her part as the freak so she still has her umbrella, in a sense Mikoma is more free than she is. And that makes her seethe. Or it can be that, she identified with Mikoma's behaviour to be free but wants to be part of society/ Momiji's world. Discuss, I'd like make Makita and Mikoma.
>>289401375Fun indeed, can't wait to see more fun.
>>289401446>I'd like make Makita and MikomaI'd like to see more Makita and Mikoma*
>>289395532Every chapter I tell myself "please be a healing manga" despite knowing that it's not
>>289401256He's supposed to be weird in a way that doesn't upset Momiji, which is an impossible task. Mikoma can't win for losing with these girls.
>>289395300FREEDOM
>>289401524>Mikoma can't win for losing with these girls.He's winning by not playing their fucking game.
>>289401518Dude drop it while there's still time, it can get pretty depressing if you're sensitive to these kinds of things.
>>289401541Miko looking like young eren may not be a coincidence. Ryou's a huge AoT fangirl.>Jiyuu da
>>289400801I actually disagree, teenagers should be horny and experience their sexuality, repressing it fucks up the brain.
>>289395396Those tits are mountains!
>>289401024>>289401636Welcome to the Twin Peaks
>>289401518>"please be a healing manga"Reading a Ryou manga for healing is like putting a bullet in your head to treat your migraine.
>>289401621Mikoma isn't repressing shit. He's only learning he doesn't have to always live life being lead by his dick.
>>289401545>He's winning by not playing their fucking game.In a Ryou manga, it means you are losing. You either please girls the way they want or your life will be miserable. Akira, Tarou and Reiji should be enough examples of what happens when you stand up against their respective main heroines.
>>289395300>Gets sick and fucking dies Bold move from the author
>>289401831Yea, Ryou might hate women, but she's still one herself and stupid fucking men are the cause of women being so unlikable. So men must suffer while women's true nature isn't hidden.
>>289401925>So men must suffer while women's true nature isn't hidden.At least Reiji and Tarou learned how to be in women's good grace. Akira only could when he was about to die.
>>289400175you are trying too hard
>>289401995I think he just has reading comprehension and basic pattern recognition >>289394620. Something you seem to be severely lacking.
This is a story about a mountain
>>289402020The series tagline is "A boy haunted by (a) mountain"
>>289395356She's so cute he should invite her to the mountain but that would break the bro code no more females on the mountain
So about that ghost on the mountain...
>>289402112Never relevant to begin with aside from the backstory. Just like the wandering merged soul in Lover's Abyss.
This is a story about the ghost on the mountain.
>>289401636The real mountain was the rack we found along the way.
>>289402164>the wandering merged soul in Lover's Abyss.Reiji debunked that story when Talk no Jutsu'ing Gen. That soul was actually the one of the only one who fied who ended up waiting for the other to die.
>>289395532Thanks for the dump!
>>289402012No, he, and you, are trying too hard.>basic pattern recognitionyou can also flip that back and call it a preconceived bias, because the concept of playing on expectations and subversions is unknown to you.as is the idea that someone can just be concerned about a kid they know without spilling their whole baggage onto them because it happened in a previous manga.Idiots. Just read the manga and control your conclusions.
>>289394620fuck her new manga is at 14 chapters already? wanted to read abyss from the start and actually read zombie before starting a new onebetter get started on this
>>289402749This one is going to be short, act 1 is already finished.
>>289395667>I'm going with what someone mentioned in another thread, she had a crush on him as a kid but has grown to despise him because of his mountain fixation.That's my main guess but considering the author it could also be some over the top dramatic shit like they all got molested or killed someone in the mountain and Miko block the memory while Momiji went full evil woman
>>289395212>rain blending in with cuts that are breaking the photonice detail
>>289402112Cult shit. I'm calling it
>>289402671>subversions is unknown to youIt is very known to me. I have addressed it before. "Subverting expectations for the sake of subverting expectations." Often used by hack mangaka and Western writers. Ryou is neither. I was #1 on cope mode when Mayu mentioned a "younger" partner - because the writer in me knows when a non-hack writer is being strangely deliberate with their wording. But I kept hoping she would surprise me and not go that route because it would just be rehashing abyss. So I gave her the benefit of the doubt to see how it would play out. Then she uploaded the OP image. Which was almost the nail in the coffin. Then we have the events of this chapter, which I outlined here >>289394943Which was the smoking gun. But by all means, you keep holding out for "muh subversion." You are being deliberately obtuse.
>>289402910>they all got molested or killed someone in the mountain and Miko block the memory while Momiji went full evil womanInb4 it's a reverse Uryuu-Yuuko-Akira situation. Someone was molesting Momiji, Roka shat on his pants, bit Mikoma murdered the molester. Momiji, instead of feelimg thankful, feared the Mikoma because he showed to be visceral af.
>>289403684It shows Momiji and Roka are being in different mindspaces or their so called relationship has his days numbered.Who will call quits? Roka because he chose to side with his friend? Or Momiji because Mikoma being out of her leash drives her mad??
>>289395343>>289395411Evil woman status: Vanquished>>289395532Thank you for the Mountain Cucks dump .
>>289402112Someone is going to fall and either die or get horribly injured on the mountain (I'm betting Momiji). Mikoma will get the blame
>>289403794More likeMomiji status: on the verge of flipping out.Mayu status: on the verge of grooming out.
>>289403700>Subverting expectations for the sake of subverting expectationsthis is yet again, your preconceived bias. You already assumed that such a thing would be achieved without purpose.You're genuinely autistic.
I want Mayu to titfuck me so bad
Paizuri from Mayu, naizuri from Yuri…
>>289403794>Evil woman status: Vanquished>he doesn't knowBuckle up, buckaroo.
>>289397987>I actually feel insecure about my drawing abilities, so I don't really know what's good about them myself.Wtf I think she has a really low self esteem
>>289401518>Every chapter I tell myself "please be a healing manga">he still expects a happy manga from Ryolmao
>>289401396I mean she is consistent, she never seemed to like Mikoma.
>>289395343Ok what the FUCK is her deal>a-actually, she just wants to manipulate and keep Miko as a simp!does not explain this visceral reaction. This is like fear towards a physical threat. there is something on that mountain.
>>289404608>This is like fear towards a physical threat. there is something on that mountain.Nah. She's scared of Mikoma as a person.
>>289395343Momiji fears the mountain boy and she’s tired of hiding it.
By the end, do you anons think any of these character's won't be evil?
>>289404786Mikoma the most likely.
>>289395822In earlier chapters she also was contradictory in how she acted around Miko
>>289404867She was messing around with him at that time to fuck with him and satisfy herself. Now that he's no longer the same Mikoma that she thought he would always be she's having a Woman Moment
>>289403844>You're genuinely autistic.>If you do not agree with me, you are autistic Utterly devoid of self awareness.
>>289395847Interesting that Momiji's eyes are full of detail while Miko's are pitch black
>>289404700She is "scared" but not in the way you are imagining.
>disregard women>be happyBASED
>>289398313This pic makes more sense if you apply ABSOLUTE TERROR to her face. She’s hiding her fear but she can’t contain it as if it’s some sort of phobia she has. Maybe she caught Miko’s intimidating face in the act more than once? Maybe she’s afraid he will pull an incel move on her when she isn’t looking. Their dwindling rapport certainly hasn’t helped lately.
>>289405058I never said you had to agree with me. So that's a strawman. I said being so convinced that there MUST be some highly ulterior and negative motive involved here because it existed in a previous manga, and that there must be no deviation in said motives, is autism.
>>289398313I think there is more going on than just trying to keep the simp in line.
>>289405855One has to ask what does Momiji have to be afraid of? There are a bunch of things I can think of like:>mountains>mosquitoes>steep floors>rain>dying alone>chainsaw leaf man>mini chainsaw miko leaf man>that body that she buried that no one knows about that one summer>boars>bears>rejectionbut apparently men hitting on her isn’t one of those things surprisingly. Of course she could just be afraid of Miko’s safety but I highly doubt she is that caring for some reason. It’s just a feeling.
>>289405237More like disregard EVIL FOIDS.Too bad there isn't a not-so-evil or a legit good woman who fell in disgrace like in Himegoto or Abyss case. Kaito and Reiji were spared only because Yuki and Nagi weren't evil.Everybody seems to be an evil foid or spiteful manbaby in Sangeki.
>>289405733There is no strawman. The implication saturates your posts by labeling those with basic reading comprehension who recognize established precedent "idiots." Conclusions are extrapolated on pattern recognition, which is what me the other anon are doing. You, are frothing at the mouth ignoring the author's signature (she is already recycling multiple tropes from Abyss, which is why I was against Mayu/Mikoma) in favor a nebulous "muh subversion XD" as if tis reddit critique is a groundbreaking revelation. There is nothing currently indicative of it aside from "just because" - which is the fulcrum of your proposal. Can she "subvert" like a baiting hack?>>289394620>>289395396>>289395411 Certainly. But this conclusion was not drawn out of thin air, neither has Ryou ever done this in Abyss. I have no reason to believe she will here, because it is pointless. Now kindly fuck off as I screencap your posts, autist.
Spoiler free report of the conference she did in Parishttps://gamecover.fr/compte-rendu-de-la-conference-de-minami-ryo-autrice-de-boys-abyss-a-la-japan-expo/>Report on the conference of Minenami Ryou, author of Boys Abyss, at Japan Expo!>I was lucky enough to attend the Masterclass with the author of Boys Abyss! The author drew a Shikishi while the audience discussed the manga. Questions were posed to the author's editor in the first part so she could stay focused while she drew a Shikishi, which was then randomly selected for an audience member. And at the end, she was able to answer a few questions!>Speaker: Can you introduce yourself?Editor-san: I am Minenami Sensei's official editor, I am Isaki. Just today, Sensei and I were wondering how many people would come to France for today's Masterclass. We were a little worried, and seeing this room full, we are very touched. Thank you so much for coming.>Can you explain what it means to be "Tantou" (TN: in charge/responsible for)?E: The job of the assigned editor is first and foremost to support the work of the mangaka, the author, and we are also the first people to see and read the manga, so what is important is to sincerely say "I really liked this passage" or "this passage was a little more difficult to understand," thus conveying our reaction/impression in a truly sincere way.(1/?)
>>289406487>How does one work with an author like Minenami Ryou?E: In Sensei's case, she's been making manga for a long time, so I don't particularly need to tell her "she should do this or that" because her initial proposal is often already quite interesting, both in terms of the story and the art. So what's important for me in this situation is to react, to give my honest impression. This is to ensure good communication between us, and not just about her series, but about manga in general, everyday life, and also in a sincere way. It's very important not to lie, and it's this sincerity that makes all manga more interesting, and that's what the job of a dedicated editor is all about.>What were your feelings when you read the manga "Boy's Abyss"?E: I wasn't the official editor of Boy's Abyss; it was my senpai, someone else who was the official editor for the series. So I think I read the manga like you, like a reader. Especially chapter 1, particularly the last page with the line, "This is just the beginning of our death." Reading that, I thought, "This is truly an incredible manga that's just beginning." I followed the series through the weekly magazine, so every week I eagerly read it, and I realize that in the magazine, it was the first manga I ever read.>Is leaving a manga with many plotlines also the key to success?E: Yes, indeed, it can be the quest for success. It's true that, "without spoiling anything," what's great about Boy's Abyss is that in each chapter, we see aspects we didn't know about, of one or more characters. In each story, these are moments where we discover aspects of the character, similar to what's found in crime novels and suspense manga, so these aspects are often popular.(2/?)
>>289406461I'm the other anon who the initial statement and I never even read Boy's Abyss, I'm just going based off her Saviour Complex that's fueled by own her mistake that caused her to move back to the sticks and escape the fallout of whatever happened. You can obviously tell that she's looking out for Mikoma not based on just being caring for him, but out of a sense of trying to atone for her mistake and to make it up to her family who she left behind to go to Tokyo.It's very clearly shown that her concern isn't altruistic but there's a very personal goal in it just by reading Sangeki.
>>289406538>How do you bring reality into a manga?E: Actually, this isn't specifically about Boys Abyss, but about manga in general. If it's not something the mangaka has experienced, even remotely, it's hard to truly imagine. So it's often a starting point for the author's experiences, which, of course, evolve over time. There's obviously a fictional element to the story, but this experience is also expressed metaphorically. The mangaka tries to convey what they've experienced in an interesting way. I'm impressed by this ability to do that.//>Question for Minenami Ryou: How does it feel to see so many people here?R: Since it was my first time, I deliberately didn't realize it and forgot that there were so many people, and I just kept drawing!>Can we have a comment on the Shikishi drawing?R: It had been a long time since I had drawn Reiji, so as the series is not finished in France, I drew a Reiji who is still on the dark side (picrel from >>289395170).>How did you come up with the idea to write this manga and why?R: Actually, I'm interested in ethnology, and I heard about a legend of double suicides, specifically "the legend of the double suicide of the abyss," and that was the starting point. It was from there that I obviously imagined and developed the story. I wanted to create a story about a double suicide, about love, and also reflect my own past within it, so it inevitably had a rather dark aspect.>Why did you choose to set your story in a small provincial town?R: As I said earlier, because of the legend of the double suicide abyss, I wanted to use the setting of this village and I also wanted it to be close to the village I grew up in, so I wanted to create a setting by superimposing the two.(3/?)
for those who came did ryou wear a mask or she actually show her face?
>>289406604>What does the figure of the writer represent for you? Is it necessarily a tortured artist?R: For me, an author/writer is very arbitrary, it is a being who is always in his own monologue and who is very lonely and all this is a suffering but also a source of joy but maybe I am the only one who thinks that.>Any final words for the French public?R: Thank you so much for coming in such large numbers today. I hope you'll be able to read the series to the end, and I would be delighted to hear your impressions. Thank you very much!Reporter said spoiler-free, but basically said she drew a shikishi of Reiji who was still on the darkness bc the series wasn't still finished in Frogland. So she literally implied Reiji saw the light by the end. And you know who was his light by the end.
>>289406644>And you know who was his light by the end.Sensei?
>>289406617was hoping a frog/a/non would attend and report back, but looks like we'll never know.
>>289406892>Sensei?Nuh uh.
>>289395396What kind of bra does she wear?Sports bra?
>>289406926No bra.The uniform wraps them.
>>289406559Exactly. Even without knowledge of Yuri/Sensei from Boy's Abyss, you can still clearly see Ryou's intentions are blatant in her portrayal of Mayu. She is doing exactly as you stated: projecting her failures onto him and centering herself as a savior. That is not to say she does not care about his wellbeing at all, but it is secondary to "finding somewhere she belongs." - And since Mikoma is similar to her in that aspect, she has found a "kindred spirit" to bond with. Which I imagine will be much easier now that she has created a divide between him and Ebihara, swooping in and "saving" him from his new best friend and the mountain.
>>289395396>>289396011I wish Ryo would open a Fanbox or Skeb to draw porn of her own works.It seems like offical porn is getting less taboo nowadays according to Witch Craft Works' author who also has been drawing porn of his own charas.
Miko is a cinnamon roll so I can only guess Momiji is afraid of something else. Maybe the freak with the broken umbrella staring at her? Nah.
>>289407117Lol she is afraid because she knows Makita hates happy Miko
>>289407117>Momiji is afraid of something else.No, she is afraid of him. More specifically, of Miko being happy and losing control over him. Roka sees through the bullshit, which is why he barely responds to her "fear."
everyone wants to fuck miko
>>289407212>everyone wants to fuck miko up.Ftfy
new volume comes out tomorrow, ryo isn't exactly the type of mangaka that puts bonuses into the tankoubon version but sangeki being free to read even in JP as opposed to boy's abyss, maybe there's gonna be something new
>>289405381You see fear? All I see is>It was like she was looking at walking garbage.Or like another anon said in a previous tread, IIRC, looks like she "stepped on shit." The disdain she had for him this chapter was palatable. And all it took was for him to tell her "no" one time.
>>289407277Probably an abyss after epilogue (Mengo style) to promote something related to that manga. I find strange Ryou said the series was still left to be finished in france when afaik, all the 18 volumes were already published there. Maybe it was ignorance from her part.The sangeki PR account (the one shueisha handles) still uses @/syonennoabyss as the acc username and is a premium verified account (golden mark instead of the regular blue one, so it's free from bekng leaked.)
>>289407375i'm planning to buy the manga so if this thread can survive until 13 hours to go, i may report some stuff
>>289394620who's the fatty on the right? i know who the crazy bitch on the left is.
>>289407434read the mango
>>289407434>who's the fatty on the right?The daughter of the owner of an inn in the mountain. She tried to test her luck in Tokyo, but failed, apparently ahe fucked up big in tokyo, returned to the town and now is desperate to settle down.
>>289395532I didn't notice she was blushing first time I read it
>>289407178Here’s the thing. I don’t really think she was that afraid of visiting leaf man with Miko. Maybe a little before but not now. That whole thing with her kind of has an aura where something bothered her so much she’d rather take her chances on a test of courage then deal with it. At the very least she’s down a trip to take her mind off things and a simp that could protect her by throwing himself at whatever for now. If she really is afraid of Miko she’s being really obtuse about it.
I feel like I'm the only one who's reading the manga at its own intended pace and not indulging crackpot theories and speculation.
>>289408263Yes. You are mindlessly consuming product without critically reflecting on what you consumed. In short, you are patting yourself on the back for being a mouth breather. Congratulations?
>>289408263>crackpot theories and speculationBut thats the best part anon. You know something is worth reading/watching when fans makes theories wich each new chapter/episode
>>289408482Dunno, I'm seeing people getting hyper invested in their own head canon of what the characters are rather than letting the story play out. It seems more like they want to be first to predict the end game and gloat they were right all along or something. Broken clock twice a day and all that.>>289408645Maybe I'm just getting old and don't have the energy for "deep lore" type discourse.
>>289408886If that is how you feel, then there is no meaning in you being in this thread. Or any thread at all, for that matter. You clearly have nothing to say.
I honestly don't dig Mayu's designI like curvy women, but she's just a lardass and her age makes it worseShe'd been perfect as a curvy big booba hag
>>289410138Not every woman her age can be a sex goddess. HOWEVER…wet boobs…
>>289410138you only think that she's a fatso because of her loose working attire, give her a tight dress and she'll look much better
>>289410666But anon, she is a sex goddess
>>289395300>Get a mountain bro, promptly drop his simp/incel behaviour, be happy>>289395343>"Bwuh, I am scared of him".
>>289407101>according to Witch Craft Works' author who also has been drawing porn of his own charas.Mmh, sauce?
>>289395212>>289403684kino
>>289411443https://pawchive.pw/fanbox/user/2380893
Some motherfucker will destroy Taiki's cabin and this will cause Miko to got postal.
>>289411583I know the guy's a capable artist given his output pre-pandemic, but the oiled look on these newer bodies make it seem like AI was involved in some capacity.
