What an adorable brotherhood, why would someone break this wholesome bond?
>>289413862>Brother scolds you regarding your alcoholism and demands that you reduce your cup intake.>Decide to just enlarge the size of your drinking cups instead.
>>289413862My war criminals cannot be this cute!
>>289413965>War Crminals.On what law?
>>289413892i know he's supposed to be drunk, but that blush is looking way too indecent
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKRxW7zPHE4>KUYASHII
>>289414092She’s cute even when she’s seething…
>>289414092This series is literally about two seething women. When you're aware of the actual history, they become just scheming brats.>Sitara: The Mongols killed my master, even though my master sacrificed herself for me because I called their scary general a thief, even though my master warned my not to resist and he has a sword and armed men and we are just helpless women.>Toregene: I will have my revenge against the Mongols who destroyed my tribe,the Merkits, even though my tribe decided to attack the Mongols while they were sleeping after they falsely sued for peace the day before.
>>289414230>they become just scheming brats.Stop making me love Sitara more.
>>289413862This is the nastiest looking show that has come out so far this year.
>>289414364Ok Mongoloid
this show is really bottom of the barrel cheap shit
>>289414389>MongoloidOk, I kek'd. Doesn't change the fact that this series looks like vomit inducing shit though.
>>289414092Angry Sitara is super cute!
>>289414402Seething
>>289414426>projecting
>>289414480>>projecting
>AHHHH!! Nomads aren't supposed to use siege weapons. Can kind of magic are they using!?>SAVE US ALLAH!
>>289413862Not a fan of political manga, but i do think this author's other work (Delicious Adventures of Dampier) looked interesting. Anyone read that one? Is it any good?
a pic when you can clearly see what you should do
Anal sex with Sitara
>>289415187Is this when he orders the rapes of all those Oirat girls
>>289415492This is Guyuk, not Ogedei...
>>289415796Wife
next episode when
>>2894161672 days
>>289415187What's the context anon?
>>289416314are you okay with a spoiler?
>>289416457Everyone's outright posting spoilers from actual history anyway. Go ahead.You can just spoiler tag if you want to be polite about it.
>>289414230A surprising amount of Mongol history is driven by woman moments
>>289416735>she sees your watermelon
https://x.com/ox79xo/status/2077781705306570872?s=20
>>289417390Should this have been a reverse harem?
>>289417612no since sitara can't get over her oneitis for muhammad sama
Sitara owes me anal sex
>>289414984why would this manga be political? its just a historical setting
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKRxW7zPHE4Angry Fatima is just the cutest thing ever. I need to stop getting attached to anime characters because seeing her suffer makes me sad
Bitches
>>289418957Is this level of smug even possible to defeat?
>>289419014No, and it's in their genes to be smug as fuck. Look at their little stinker.
>>289419081Muslims FEAR him!
Nyaa
>>289419181Evil bitch
>>289419014It took Russia two centuries but they managed to pull it off. Also force their descendants to die to German machine guns so the actual Russians could plant their flags on the Reichstag
>>289419414But she's so moe so it's fine
>>289418827I want to pamper her with kisses bros
>>289419444By that time Mongol empire deteriorated so much that they got kicked out of every country they conquered.
>>289419873What would Sitara’s favorite Pokemon be?
>>289419081Sitara should keep serving Sorghaghtani rather than Toregene...Then she may have a chance to go back to Khorasan with her son Hulegu and meet her beloved young master again...
>>289419698Based
>>289420565It'll be amusing if the manga ends in the meeting with Hulagu and Muhammad Al-Tusi and the sack of Baghdad. Then after Hulagu appoints Al-Tusi as the adminstrator of the city, he reminsces about Sitara to him and hopes she's living her life well,unaware by that point she's a corpse sunk into a river.
>>289419081Who wouldn't be so smug when you crushed both the Assassins and the Abbasid Caliphate?
Posting historical maps for context of Mongol History.This is the map of Eurasia in the year 1200, six years before Temujin united or conquered all the nomadic tribes in the steppe and formed the Mongol Empire.
>>289421108This the map in the year 1300, the Mongol Empire divided into four major khanates, the Yuan Dynasty that took over China and Mongolia, the Chagatai Khanate in Central Asia and Ilkhanate in Persia and Mesopotamia. Not shown here are minor khanates like the Ogudei Khanate (located between the Chagatai Khanate and the Yuan Dynasty).The Mongol Empire was split into two sides, The Yuan Dynasty and Il-Khanate fought against the anti-Kublai coalition led by Kaidu, Khanate of the Ogudei Khanate, minor Toluid Khanates led by the relatives of Mongke and Arik Boke and the Chagatai Khanate. The Golden Horde was initially allied with the Ogudei Coalition but ultimately allied with Kubali after the death of the previous Khan Mengu-Timur.Despite this, the four khanates briefly reunited into once Kaidu died and the Yuan Dynasty and the Chagatai Khanate destroyed the Ogudei Khanate and split their territories between them.While the Yuan could no longer directly order the 3 other khanates and the they both engaged raids against each other, they did interact each other through trade and envoys and recognized the Yuan as their nominal overlord.
>>289419908Did someone say pokemons?
>>289415805He's his daddy's son they look the same
>>289421108>>289421438>Arctic Marine Mammal Huntersredpill me on them
>>289420754Allah she’s so cute
>>289421108>>289421438Watching peak anime while learning history.
>>289422643It’s so peak
>>289419081Labubu looking ass
Sitarara
Does Sitara meow?
>>289424612nyaa and such
Is she a potato?
>>289421438Why does the golden horde randomly have an English name.
>>289420496Sitara the lioness.
>>289418331>literally a "court intrigue and scheming" manga>not political
Scheming Sitara…
>>289426165don't you understand? only current american news headlines is "politics"
>>289422215That kind of name is historian for "we have no idea"They can pretty easily deduce that the people living there hunted mammals because all the other Arctic peoples do (think of Inuit seal clubbing), but any specifics to Kamchatka are lost since there is no recorded history
>>289414230It just works okay?
so when will they be making lamb chopshave i been lied to
>>289415805Is this when he orders the rapes of all those Baghdad girls then?
>>289426887No
Did the Mongols enjoy rape or did they prefer consensual sex but raped reluctantly, like Rance?
>>289428514The former
>read manga>no update since December 2024AAAAAAAAIIIIIIIEEEEEEE
Absolutely loved the first episode. For those who've read the manga, does it show worship in compatibility with gaining worldly knowledge, or does it go down the route of espousing worldly knowledge as what matters most? I'm gonna read it either way, but I do really hope for once I could read a manga that presents religion and science in compatibility with one another.
'ate MongolsLuv Fatima Simple as
>>289431653it's barely about religion vs. science at all. if anything the grounding in the beginning makes it compatible. the rest is sitara batman-ing her way through the mongols
>>289431225Would this group be interested in continuing the scanlation of Jaadugar?They've gotten 3 historical manga finished (Divci Valka, Hitohake No Niji and Anna Komnene) so far.
>>289415492>According to Persian sources, Ögedei ordered his troops to rape 4000 Oirat girls over the age of seven, who were then either enslaved by Ögedei or forced into prostitution elsewhere in the Mongol empire.Damn.
>>289421108>>289421438Greek hands made these maps.
>>289419081A personalized nightmare of West Asia is so cute
>>289432368>Persian sources.They are same blokes who said the Mongols massacred 1 trillion people in Central Asia and Persia despite only China being capable of housing such a population.Not to mention the Oirats where a powerful and loyal tribe who never betrayed Genghis unlike the Merkits. Why would Ogudei do that?
>>289432450Maybe Oiratussy is just that good. Have you ever thought of that?
>>289432415>t.German
>>289432450>why would an evil man be evil Just because
Y'all complain about the Mongols taking everything but then you forget that Islam should not be in Persia in the first placeThe Umayyads really fucked shit up there too
>>289433667It was bad, but comparing what the Umayyads did to Persia to what the Mongols did is like comparing a coughing baby to a hydrogen bomb. There are no exact figures, but the Umayyads killed roughly 120,000 Persians in 20 years. The Mongols killed up to 10-15 million in just 3 years.
>>289433667>Two longtime superpowers in the form of the Eastern Roman Empire and the Sassanid Empire got wrecked by some recently united Arab tribes out of nowhere.
>>289434161And here's the Mongol Empire expansion for comparison.
>>289434111>10 to 15 millionNot remotely close. Iran isn't China, which suffered more than double of that
>>289434111>>289434161I know the Mongols had a larger death tollBut the caliphates forced their own culture onto Persians, unlike the Mongols who to my knowledge were more tolerant.Also, the time lapse should have been extended to Spain.
>>289420805Its pretty sad since by the time Tusi meets Hulegu she would've already been dead for a decade
>>289434111Sounds like a skill issue on the arab's part.
>>289433235Delicious doomed ship!!
>>289434559>But the caliphates forced their own culture onto PersiansYou have that very much backwards, anon. Islamic culture is to a rather ludicrous degree just a globalised version of Persian culture.Persian morals, Persian arms and armor, Persian stories, Persian architecture, Persian aesthetics,...Go and look up artifacts from the very first Caliphates and you'll quickly notice how much more Roman it looks as Arabs were more strongly influenced by the Mediterranean rather than Persians (just look at where Medina, Mecca are and overlay Roman provinces on whatever map you're looking at) before they took over Persia and started interacting with these folks more.Hijabs, harems, onion domes, diwans,... if you exclude curved swords and the Chinese artstyle (imported by the Turkic and Mongolic nomads), it is by and large Persian culture permeating everywhere.
Mongol Keshig, a shock cavalry and royal board for Mongol royalty and nobles.
Mongol Heavy Cavalry vs Khwarizem Heavy Cavalry.
Rashidun caliphate was the only good caliphate. The other caliphates were larpers.
>>289434919So true bestie *every rashidun pegs you*
>>289434736Ok i think you need to spoon-feed me, I can't find anything about this or the artifacts on Wikipedia.Medina and Mecca were not part of the Roman Empire, right? How did they get the culture? Sure they were close but still.
>>289435094
>>289432207There's already a Genghis there. It's hard to believe Jaadugar won't catch their interest
>>289435197:3
>>289435174NTA but the Arab tribes had a lot of interaction with the Roman world. They had been part of the Roman Red Sea trade for much of a millennia, and had been a hotbed of both Jewish and Christian missionary efforts (which is where Islam got a lot of it's Abrahamic theology). The Ghassanids for instance were a Christian Arab kingdom in what is today Western Saudi Arabia that functioned as a Roman client state. They fought as a Roman proxy against the Lakmids, an Arab Kingdom in what is today Eastern Saudi Arabia, who functioned as a Persian client state and constantly fought the Ghassanids in proxy wars. Islams big thing was that it got all the warring Arab kingdoms to go "Wait a minute, the Romans and Persians just wrecked each other in a 30 year long war, why don't we stop fighting as their clients and just take them over?" And so they did. After the Arab conquests, they inherited the heart of Persian bureaucracy in Iraq and Iran, but missed the "seat" of Roman culture in Anatolia. So Persian culture became the basis of a lot of future Islamic culture and removed a lot of Roman influence (especially as they were still at war with Rome and not Persia), as the Arabs had always been a peripheral people who imitated the culture of larger imperial powers for prestige.
>During the Middle Ages, Mongol warriors and nomadic people were actually quite short by modern standards, averaging about 5'2" (158 cm) for men What the fuck? What next, the Vikings were actually short too?
>>289435174It was the lifeline of Roman trade with the civilized world.Since Europe was a barren, yet undeveloped wasteland of barbarity (fur and amber being the only thing on offer) and the Persians forever a hostile ""superpower"" (obviously not an appropriate term but this is /a/, not a dissertation), Red Sea was The route for basically any trade of value. Spices, silks, glassware,... everything passed through there and Arabic kingdoms and cities were an active part of the journey down towards the Indian ocean.>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Romans_in_ArabiaIt is really perceptible when you focus on the precious little Umayyad stuff that has been preserved. Roman mosaics and artstyle everywhere, once they start settling in they come up with minarets and build them... as copies of Roman lighthouses. Almost naked figures, actual statues, natural decorations (instead of the abstract patterns), et cetera.>https://picryl.com/topics/umayyad+artThey weren't completely cut off from Mesopotamia and thus Persian (then Sassanian) influence but it was in a minority position compared to clear Greco-Roman influence. However, as time goes on you can probably figure out what happened. Since the Romans remain enemies while Mesopotamia and Persia become a core province of their empire, they start adopting Persian things more and more, and once Abbasids take power (Persian leaders, turn "Arabs, Muslim converts and others" into "Muslims and others", spearhead the adoption of Arabic script for Persian texts) the floodgates pour open and what, in a simplified way, was a culture 8 parts Roman, 1 part Arabic and 1 part Persian becomes 8 parts Persian, 1 part Roman (the adoption of minarets from Greco-Roman towers happens during the Abbasid period) and 1 part Arabic.
>>289435614How tall is Sitara?
>>289435614>X were actually short too?Pre-modern horses were all ponies by modern definition. Whether you think of Roman armies, Persian cataphracts, Norman and knightly cavalry charges, all of that has been done from, by modern standards following the start of breeding horses for size into the giant mutants they are today, absolutely midget horses.It's one of those things that a lot of people push back against but by now we've got thousands of horse remains measured and catalogued and everything matches up. Workhorses, warhorses, sacrifices inhumed with great (Viking, Slavic, nomadic,...) chiefs all show the exact same picture of the natural horse stature. Which is considered small enough to be called a pony today.I think it's really neat and it's fun once you look closer to period drawings and start noticing how going by proportions between the rider and horse (how far down their feet reach, how far above the head of the horse they reach), they were either all putting NBA stars to shame or their horses really weren't the 2m+ behemoths of today. But some people consider it tantamount to saying their mother is a fat whore for some incomprehensible reason.
>>2894357323 watermelons tall
>>289413862>boring historical show with dreadful artI shouldn't have bothered with this for a single episode. The writing is even worse than the visuals.
>>289425903she's a shit
>>289432450>>289434337>there's NO way the Mongols killed all the people as recorded in history!>ok I don't actually have a number that it could be, but it uhhhhhhhhhhhh was definitely less!
>>289435614Everyone was shorter in the past. Humans have gotten taller over time, mostly due to improving nutrition. Conversely, historians can track periods of famine by seeing people get smaller
The show had me reading more about the Mongols and damn. This is some NTR shit. Poor Jochi.
>>289436115No wonder Genghis hated the Merkit so much. He even ordered his eldest son Jochi to kill the Merkit archer he had spared because he was the son of the Merkit and he suspected he might plan to kill him.It also makes Toregene's revenge against the Mongols laughable since the Mongols accepted their peace treaty and the Merkits decided to stab them in the back next morning by attacking in their sleep.
>>289436244*Merkit leader
>>289436386>Trad Christian WifeTolui is so lucky...
>>289436115>Genghis was a cuckOH NONONONONO
>>289436653I don't think you know what cuck means.
>>289436703>unknowingly raising another man's child>not a cuck
>>289431914Excellent. But also>>289431225AAAAAAAAA
All I know is the Umayyads deserved defeat after Karbala
>>289425906probably because it was the one that had most contact with the europeansbtw did you know that both Yuan and Qing dynasty names mostly comes from their own names in their own languagelike Dayan Ulus = Da YuanDaichin Guren = Da Qing
>>289436112and average european male was 172cm its short but not as short as mongols so yeah manlets are the greatest warriors
>>289436733>raiders kidnap your wife>you gather the bros >rescue your wife>erase the raiders from the face of the earthDoesn't seem like a cuck to me.>unknowingly raising another man's childThe fuck was he supposed to do? Yeet the baby into a river?
>>289436948>Yeet the baby into a river?unironically yes. if i was the wife i wouldn't mind that either since it was a rape baby, i wouldn't want to keep looking at the literal physical reminder of my most traumatic moment
>>2894360993 million Khwarasmians at maximum. Plausible considering the population size of current Iranians and the Chinese.
>>289437151Women don't have rights, anon.
>>289437151>killing a child for the sins of his father You are not a real human
>>289436906>btw did you know that both Yuan and Qing dynasty names mostly comes from their own names in their own language>like>Dayan Ulus = Da Yuan>Daichin Guren = Da QingThis sounds like folk etymology, anon.Firstly, the whole Da + State name is established in Chinese centuries before the birth of Mongolian. Da Tang is well-attested and used all over, you can find the exact same in Manyoushuu and the like.Secondly, while you propose the name neatly fitting into some Mongolian word, the historical texts at the time rendered it as "Dai Ön" so you'd first need to prove DaiÖn is how Mongolians used to say Dayan in Old Mongolian (whatever the name is for the language during Genghis' rule and thereabouts).And finally, when setting the name of Qing from Jin, the initials of Mandarin hadn't undergone palatalisation yet and so they called it Tsing (and Kin). Again, you need to show dai tsing mapping to a Manchu etymology back in the day, not dai chin today.Kwambaku Fideyoshi of Woozaka (Kanpaku Hideyoshi of Oosaka but in Japanese contemporary to his life) and all that.Languages change all the time and you're looking at periods which contain really drastic changes in the pronunciation of Chinese so you can't just randomly equate modern words with whatever 700 years ago.
I can’t stop gooning to Sitara
>>289437642Maybe he's just Christian
she sorghagh on my tani till i beki
Anal
>>289437760
>>289439107Baby don’t hurt me
sniffing Sitara
She wears a head covering to hide her cat ears
Tomorrow
pampering Sitara
>>289440159That's cute
>>289435353>>289435620Yummy, thx for the food >not a dissertationAt this point it is>Roman mosaics and artstyle everywhereTo me, those looked like they were from pre-Islamic Arabian culture, but then wouldn't that just be Islamic culture if it was thatLooking back if they did transfer their culture it wouldn't have been this, as the tribes were nomads like the MongolsThey spread their language and religion to Persia, no. That's still part of their cultureAlso, umayyad cat girl
Bros I love Allah
>>289442369Same bro
is the rubaiyat of omar khayyam any good
I wish Sitara were real bros
>>289443014>>289442493>>289442369I'm not your bro.
>>289443152You are not bro?
>>289442863I googled it and it's a poetry book. Only nerds read poetry.
She is Sitara
>>289443321i know what it is i'm asking if it's any good
Write Sitara a poem
>>289443443I'm pretty sure you'd be the very first anon to read this book on this board. Don't let your dreams be dreams.
>>289444309but that book is relevant to the historical discussions in these threads and was written by a man who studied in nishapur just muhammadit's also from around the same time period as tenmaku no jaadugari would have thought every anon in this thread read it
>>289444362>just muhammadjust like muhammad
>>289443720How about a haiku?Little SiraraWants to defeat the MongolsBut fails miserably
>>289444362>i would have thought every anon in this thread read itYou're giving us too much credit.
>>289445156
>>289445174She looks disappointed. Cute.
>>289445156She’s got mesugaki energy
>>289443152>>289445174Stop stealing her smile. It's all she has left.
>>289446184>It's all she has left.She doesn’t have her anal virginity?
>>289446218Not after I'm done with her
>>289440519Sorry sitarabros, but right mogs her
>>289446931Wrong
>>289440519Potato head
>>289443720roses are red, violets are bluemy penis is erect when i look at you damn brat
>they made an anime for muslims>everyone wants to fuck the underage MCNot beating the aisha allegations
>>289446931Sitara is straight up murdering her ass for succession.
>>289440519The Moogs
Hello I love Fatima
>>289413862
>>289413862Surely someone will pick up the manga soon
From The Jackmeister's video where he dispels the myth of the Mongol Empire being fractured and says they actually reunited until the end.Here's are the actual khanates during the fracturing. The Ogudei Khanate led a anti-Yuan coalition formed with the Chagatai Khanate, the remnants of Mongke and Arik Boke's factions and the Golden Horde Khanate that split the empire as the Yuan and Illkhanate and the anti-Yuan coalition raided and invaded each other.Only with the death of Kaidu, the leader of the Ogudei Khanate and the destruction of the khanate itself did the empire reunite but ultimately the Great Khan from the Yuan couldn't directly order the other khanates anymore.
>>289454757The big problem is that the official english release is up to Vol.4 and Vol.5 is likely to be released in the end of this year.It's no wonder scanlators avoid touching it since someone will just dump the official manga on some site.
>>289454773>in the end of this year.That sucks. I guess I'm sticking with being an anime only.
>>289454759And here's the Mongol Empire after the Ogudei Khanate was ultimately destroyed and rest of the Anti-Yuan coalition acknowledged the Yuan as their nominal overlord.It really makes Toregene and Fatima's efforts look meaningless in the long run as the empires fell after due to the typical "majority settled people kicking out the nomadic minority" phase of nomadic empires.
>>289454816Correction regarding my prediction of the english release of Vol.5.Vol.1 and Vol.3 were released in May and June of 2025 and 2026 respectively and it's likely Vol.5 might be released in May-June-July of 2027.
>>289454858>Vol.5 might be released in May-June-July of 2027.Man
>>289454757I hate this because I really wanna know what happens next but I'm not desperate enough to buy JP and have ai translate it.
>>289455003Judging by these fanarts, Fatima eventually kills Shira later in the manga?>Just wants to rebuild his life after the Mongols destroyed his old one.>Save a suicidal slave girl and tell her to not lose hope.>Said slave girl is a revengetard and considers you an enemy alongside the Mongols.
>>289455040Does she? I just assume these shippers like to doom the two.
>>289455040>>289455089it's not clear but something bad does seem to happen between them in volume 6
>>289455227Yeah I noticed that too. I'm fighting the urge to know more.
>>289438332Rude and disrespectful. "Sorgaghtani" meant something like "heaven" and "beki" is a nobility title akin to "lord/lady", so her name roughly translates to "the heavenly queen"Apologize
Beki let me smash
Imagine getting mogged by someone named Becky. No wonder Sitara is forever seething.
Oh my God Beki, look at her buttIt is so big, she looks likeOne of those rap guys' girlfriendsBut, ya know, who understands those rap guys?They only talk to her, becauseShe looks like a total prostitute, okay?I mean, her butt, it's just so bigUh, I can't believe it's just so round, it's like out thereI mean, uh, gross, lookShe's just so, brown
>>289456111Billions have already been mogged
I want to see Sitara seethe more and more
I want to drink pomegranate juice that’s been mixed with Sitara’s foot juice
Oh fuck
>>289419081>Hülegu also married a Kerait woman like her mom>Doquz Khatun made him spare christians in Baghdad when he sacked itWas the Mongol empire just a vehicle for Kerait women?
>>289457723How long until we see this design?
>>289457751Episode 6 maybe?
>>289457898Nice
RIP
>>289457009Neat gore apple
>>289437760This. Persian girls are hot.
Fuck them
>>289458292Sitara looks so cute when she is mad as fuck.
>>289458343She's cute when she's happy too
>>289457723i love evil scheming women
Okay this anime is really good
>>289457898>>289457751 The time skip is actually in this episode,4.
Unsubbed Amazon torrent is up.
God damn, Sitara traveled half the world.
First minute in and she's already scheming in broken Mongorian. Sasuga our little girl.
Full visual
RIP Genghis.oyaji.Was black really used for mourning in contemporary Mongolian customs, I wonder? Sinitic civs like Chinese or Japnese go with white instead.
>>289413862I want to see these cunts faces caved in.
Anon wasn't joking about this series loving time skips.
>>289459358She's silly
>>289459358penis goes where?
>>289459260Typical contemporary Mongolian mourning color is blue but I think it was heavily influenced by Tibetan Buddhism after Mongolian Empire. it seems in the northwest side black is used and white is used in eastern area so... it depends?
>>289459358Does she meet Toregene this episode?
>>289459444No, most likely in the middle/end of the next episode
>>289459358What did she asked (well ordered) Fatima to become? I'm having a hard time catching that final part. (にって？)Xになって
>>289459581密偵Noun1. spy; secret agent See also スパイ
>>289459614Ah, thanks.
>>289454757>only 19 chapters translated It's over. The anime will reach past the translated chapters before we get an official release.
remove mongol
>[SubsPlease] Tenmaku no Jaadugar - 04 (1080p) [7588D531].mkvKITAAAAAAA
I like being greeted with this look when I watch this anime
>>289413862just saw the state of the previous episodes threads. very grim.what were they thinking though just hiding within the basement without giving any serious effort into hiding the entrance to it. as if the mongols haven't seen such a hiding spot 1000 times.
>>289460075My baby...
>>289460098>just saw the state of the previous episodes threads. very grim.It has dialed down significantly.
>>289460112
Fatima is her
She was killed…
*wisdommogs you*
Best boy
>>289460156that sheep? stronger than temujin.
Fuck this family
Listening to Misaki Kuno in a non-typecasted role is a fucking delight.
SOMEONESTOP THIS SMUGSHE'S GETTING OUT OF CONTROL
>>289459397I see, thanks.>https://www.researchgate.net/publication/374387162_The_uses_and_meanings_of_colours_in_Mongolian_culture_13th-_14th_centuries#pf7This dude deals with accounts of yurt and cart colors. Black was seen as protective or precious in those contexts. Treasured things go in the black cart. During a thunderstorm you put on black clothes not to get struck. But also black clothes on the newly elected khan, which the show did use right now.He even mentions white for mourning (among a billion other things, they really had a thing for white) but doesn't cite where he got it from and the overall tone of that paper seems to read more like an opinion piece article with some research thrown in rather than a reasonably peer-reviewed text.Chinese also have a funeral drawing by the mongols >http://www.china.org.cn/english/MATERIAL/194095.htmBut that one's chock-full of Buddhist symbolism once you read more about it (here, but you'll need to TL it: https://www.sohu.com/a/993356949_121119371). The people in it don't wear any particular singular color, though. So there's that.I'll stick with thinking it's a modern choice, particularly to make it obvious what's happening in that scene since they're trying to be more artsy about it.
>>289460334Sitara should remain under Sorghaghtani and a teacher of Hulegu...so she may have chance to see her beloved young master again
It's over...
>>289460514Skill issue
BROS BEFORE HOS
What if an animal is w/o neck? The animal is safe from Muslims?
>>289460577Every mammal came with a neck nigga it's called having a respiratory system
>Sitara seethes at Sorghagtani for somehow not instantly knowing where the book came from and expect her to somehow understand her pain.She's worse than pre-timeskip Thorfinn, at he bothers to say to Askeladd that he killed his father. She just seethes and seethes.
>>289460613Itʼs written animals here, not mammals.
Cute Mongol wives
What does he know that we don't?
>>289460635Every animal has a neck too
>>289460651He'll have alot of fun in the future.
>>289460666[Citation needed]
>>289460678>minimum 200k casualties in less than 2 weeks >in the 13th centuryjesus christ
Another solid episode. I have been cockblocked because I thought Moge my wife and Kyrgistani would debut this episode, but I guess we have to wait a bit.
>>289460678He'll also destroy the OG Order of Assassins. Unlike the Abassids, they put up quite the fight against his massive army.
>>289460872>TusiMuhammad-sama...
Bruh
>>289459358>>289460075>>289460129>>289460382>>289460891I love how expressive she is
>she became a babysitter for the mongolsFatima sama...
>>289460891>cock goes where?
When is Sitara getting pregnant?
>>289460933>groom the mongol princes to become the next ilkhanate queenalas she wasnt smart enough for that.
I feel like Sitara prefers anal
>>289461040>>289460891
>>289461049>first experience was surprise anal
>>289461040She's smart so she knows better than sticking it in there.
>8 years in persia and 8 years in MongoliaShe's just 16
>>289461074>She's smartlol, lmao even
>>289461081You're right, she's way past her prime
>Time to get back at this filthy Mongolians! >but doing everything they ask me, following all their customs, and getting pumped every night by Mongolians soldiers.
https://x.com/Crunchyroll/status/2078154187943149967
Fucking kek look at her she doesn't get it at all
>>2894611738 years to read a book...
>>289461147>English dub
>>289461141>but doing everything they ask me, following all their customs, and getting pumped every night by Mongolians soldiersso just like her life in persia except now she got an harem of bmc spoiling her every night. lucky!
>>289460098Someone said that raids on the city by bands of nomadic robbers are commonplace. However, they always come in small groups, using hit-and-run tactics. Perhaps they assumed the raid would be over within three days for them to leave the city. That’s why they kept their valuables in the basement and felt safe leaving them unguarded. The other slaves were even able to relax and laugh. They never imagined that a large force would actually storm the place.
>>289461202For the kind of person who believes Japanese haven't murdered those Mongolian and Persian names hard enough.
She's so cute
*wastes 8 years of your time on a pointless sidequest*I KNEEL TO THE QUEEN MOTHER OF MUSLIM SLAYERS, THE BANE OF PERSIA, DAUGHTER OF PRESTER JOHN
>not trusting fatima's 4d chess planNon believers and naysayers will eat their words
Stop being mean to Sitara! She's trying her best!
You are all laughing, but I am not seeing any mongoloids around today, so checkmate Fatima haters.
>>289460138Why she reminds me to Osanai?
>>289460334Baghdad's worst nightmare turned into this moe labubu
If it were me in Mongolia, it would not have gone down like that
>>289461081She grew up elsewhere before her mother died, so she's in her early to mid 20s now.
Sitara should suffer more, there's something erotic about her when she's frustrated
Bros I’m starting to think Sitara is a jobbing seething retard
>time skipShe has grown enough to have a big bush down there.
>>289461378She was 5 when she was bought. So she was 21 in the latest anime ep.
>>289460891
>>289461081I think she was 5 at the beginning of eps 1. So it makes Fatima like in her 21 now. This artstyle genuinely confusing
>>289461484Imagine the jungle Allah has blessed her with...
No wonder the Mongolian empire didn't last when it took one of their intellectuals 8 years to read a single book...
>>289461526What word do I say to thank him for that?
I loved how Sitara can control her emotions. Especially when Mongol beliefs came in conflict with her Muslim beliefs.
>>289460334Why are Mongols so moe?
>>289461560It was a very good book
>>289461484>>289461526This is no laughing matter, anons. Have you never heard about just how hairy Persian girls are?>https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0520242637?ie=UTF8>https://www.allure.com/story/growing-back-unibrow
>>289460577Not a Muslim but the only animals I can think of that don't have necks and are eaten regularly is seafood (fish, crabs, etc). And Abrahamic religions are generally pretty lax about those since they're seen as a lesser form of life.
>>289461081Out of?
>>289458987She's like a mini Marco Polo. She could still live to meet him too since his journey is not that far off.
I like the contrast between how Muslims and Mongols think about blood in meat. The Mongols believed it gave flavor by keeping it, while Muslims focus on draining the blood for cleanliness and to minimize the animal's suffering.Funny coincidence because just the other day, I googled religious tolerance in Mongolia under Genghis Khan, including how Muslim captives were treated. Apparently, he didn't allow halal slaughter, and that remained the case until Berke Khan permitted it around 1260.Don't worry, Fatima. You're a slave and have no say in what your master is feeding you. According to the Quran, you're still halal, baby girl.
>>28946170510!
>>289460651On the left is future Kublai Khan who will meet Marco Polo and invade Japan.
>looks directly at dog having fun minding its own business>starts seethingFucking muslims
>>289461510That's kinda look like...
>>289461781They're right about dogs being filthy. They shit on the floor and lick assholes. Disgusting beasts
>>289461173She's making the face
>>289461880Post brought you by degenerate mind-controlling cats
This really is way more in line with Heike Monogatari than I was even expecting.
>>289461709>She's like a mini Marco Polo.Unlike him, she actually went to China, though.>Says he became a governor of a Chinese province.Not a single record of anything like that.>Talks at great lengths about the local customs.But never notices that they eat with chopsticks.Talks about animal hunts in places that were stripped bare of any forests and non-human habitat centuries earlier.And says his hosts in Fuzhou eat a human a day.>...Marco Polo's account is full of nonsense that one can't explain without invoking the magical formula "everything he said was true, it's the people writing it down that fucked it all up."But given how they go in absolute bonkers directions... while also preserving all the Chinese and Mongolian names which do seem to really map to places, they probably did pay attention when writing this shit down and copying it over.I.e. the bullshit is probably from the Venetian himself and a lot of what he said comes down to heresay. He most likely interacted with Chinese in Mongolia but never visited China proper.
>>289461521>>289461378>so she's in her early to mid 20s now>so it makes Fatima like in her 21 nowNOOOOOOOOOOO
Fatima will forever be 14
>only line of dialogue is about how he almost jobbed to persians>next episode, dies offscreen and never mentioned againPoor guy...
Mentally I still haven't moved past how smug she looks here
>>289413862total mongol death
>>289462241too smug for a kid
>>289462091Meh. He's far more accurate and has few errors than the other travelers during his time.If Polo was merely a compilation of other people's stories, those stories would likely have been recorded somewhere else by someone else, but Marco Polo was the only Westerner who recorded these stories for hundreds of years before or after him.
>>289461254>hit-and-run tacticseh, would a group that beats the local army really just dash away again. plundering the whole place seems obvious, but whatever
>>289462091>>Says he became a governor of a Chinese province.Except he never said this and was an envoy. If you couldn't even get basic shit like this right it's clear you've never even read the original and instead had it regurgitated to you by youtube or AI.
>>289462328A lot of his stories do have equivalents in Islamic travelogues. Like the fire-breathing lizards and such, IIRC.He was a dude who spoke Persian and was definitely in Mongolia. But the moment he opens his mouth regarding China it starts falling apart and has to be second-hand heresay even if he claims to have lived there for 20 years and attended every grand event during his stay, which is like a random Muslim traveler explaining how he was present for every bigger historical event anywhere in Europe when he took a trip there to study the heathens or send a diplomatic message.Have Stella here buddy up with some Chinese diplomat over her learning fetish to tell her stories whenever he comes over to report to the Mongols and you get a much more palatable vision of Polo's travels.
>>289462186He didn't job to the persians.The siege he was referring to was the Siege of Gurganj, the old capital of the Khwarizem Empire in which he led the siege and Chagatai and Ogudei worked together with him to attack it.The problem is that Jochi and Chagatai quarreled with each other on how to proceed. Jochi wanted to pressure the city to surrender since it was promised to him by father Genghis while Chagatai wanted to massacre it. Thus attack lasted longer and the Mongols suffered casualties.Ultimately, Genghis ordered them to cut the bullshit and had Ogedei command the siege and Ogudei massacred the hell out of the city.
>>289462451Anon, we're not on /his/. You can't bullshit people like that and expect them to fall for it.
No one bathes in this anime
>>289461040I thought that's a sin in islam.
>>289461521>>289461378Thank god the character designs didn't make her look her age.
>>289461922It'll break your heart when I say that cats are no better
>>289462781She's in Mongolia who's gonna stop it?
>>289462805A lot of Mongols adopted Islam, even if the homebase turned into a bastion of Buddhism instead.
>>289462751>>>Says he became a governor of a Chinese PROVINCE Who's the one who can't bullshit? Maybe actually give the book a read before you try to cite it (but not the penguin's edition for fuck sake lmao).
>>289413862not having read the manga or checked out Fatima's history, I kinda expected this series to be about the death Gengis Khan, with Sitara having a part in it for revenge. Instead he already died at episode 4.
>>289413862LET MY GIRL COOK!
>>289416580nigga most of history are literally big woman moments, and some of the most retarded women moments came from men
>>289460334wait, isn't Kublai the guy that failed multiple times to conquer japan?
I know what happens between them and I’m not ready ;_;
>>289460768to be fair at the time Baghdad was one of biggest cities in the world, surpassing the million of people
>>289461190AND THEY STILL DONT HAVE STREETS OR A FUCKING CITY LMAO
>>289463417>Orders Koreans to build many boats at a short period of time for his Japanese invasion fleets.>Doesn't realize why his invasion fleets keep sinking due to Japanese typhoons.
>>289460251Brothers are fine. The problem starts with cousins and grandsons. Especially when one of them converts to Islam and starts seething when his cousin killed the Caliph
>>289460651The guy on the right is Mongke, right?
She's the tutor of a prince's wife, so why is she still expected to do menial tasks like this?
>>289461301>Pawnlet thinking she's going to do shitLEMAO8 years and she cant even get back the fucking book
>>289461173'ω'
>tfw no :3 wife
>>289463563did you see how they live? i think most people but nobles have to do a lot of work, she's also a fucking slave
so what was that ball thingy? i thought it was kidney stone at first
>>289461742did the mongol dude crush the sheep's heart or what was that? and how exactly is the blood drained, does the heart still beat after the slit throat or is it just drained by gravity?
>>289463638Wasn't it a bezoar?
>>289463098Anon, I understand not everyone here is a Sinicist but who do you think ran the provinces in Yuan China? Check the capital of this Yuan-established province.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jiangzhe_(Yuan_province) Come on, anon. We're here simply to cheer for a cute psycho and learn some period history, not try to argue nonsense like some bored teens across 2000s "history" forums.
>>289463612>FUAK THIS RETARDED LOSER HUSBAND
>>289463655didn't know it was a thing. yeah, seems like it
>>289463715Beki wouldn't say that. She loves her retard husband.
>>289463638see>>289463655ancient china/oriental magical stone, usually an important thing in medicine. It was also in maomao's anime
She's all grown up...
>Go to r/mongolia to see how they view the anime.>See post crying about Mongolians being portrayed as the bad guys in fiction.Not shown is that Jaadugar and Angolmois is included in the post.I'm starting to think modern Mongolians are rather pathetically sensitive about their portrayals in fiction. They are properly terrifying and the last two give much nuance to the Mongolians while still being brutal as hell.
>>289444362>i would have thought every anon in this thread read itI haven't, but Sitara has actually gotten me into reading again. Not just about history but reading in general.
Sorghaghtani my powerscaler :3 wife...
>>289463897>>See post crying about Mongolians being portrayed as the bad guys in fiction.KWAB
>>289463741Not just asian, the europeans believed in its powers too. Think I remember reading about how nobles would wear them as jewelry they'd take off and dip into wine believing it'd neutralize poisons
>>289463643Yeah. Squeeze or cut something important, the point being that all of the blood remains in the carcass rather than spilling out (like in a normal slaughter).>>289463417Japan, Annam (Vietnam) and Java all at the same time.That "at the same time" being the thing that did him in. Japan invasion bankrupted Kamakura government and caused its fall and he even planned another invasion, just died before it could be carried out.Annam capitulated, just on somewhat-reasonable terms rather than a complete and unconditional surrender. If it had been Genghis, he'd have burnt the place to the ground again (which they did with each invasion) like in Goryeo Korea but this guy just wanted to conquer more and more.... and so when Champa capitulated out of principle, he found the next target down on Java and sent his army there. And even there they were kinda successful in getting some power but it was a doomed effort in the end. It's the closest to a real defeat but even here he was still planning another go at it.TL;DR: Look up how Mongolian wars normally went because that's often lost in the memes (and partial retellings where anyone involved ignores the rest of the world and proclaims themselves the one and only ones to have ever beaten Mongols in battle). Mongols got fucked a hundred times in all sorts of battles. But Genghis and people who still understood how things went knew that if they kept the pressure up, their target would brake and THEN they can pick the next one. Kublai, for whatever reason, went for many places at once which meant fewer attacks spaced more apart and thus he... didn't live long enough to see those conquests through (and use the spoils of success in one to fuel the next). But the part about sending a failed expedition wasn't really unique to him. Even Genghis had failed wars.
Seeing Hulagu being all :3 is fucking hilarious when you know what happens
>>289451609>anime in which muslim world was raped by mongolswhy muslims would watch their humiliation?
>>289464129Muslims love getting raped, it's a test to get better reward in heaven
>>289461673I have a hairy woman fetish. Thanks for the lit rec.
>>289464116Did he also have those Poputepippiku lips in the manga or was that added for the anime?
>>289463612Get a horse, bow, and sable hat
Sitara's va is trying too hard.
>>289463897Can they point to anything positive and useful mongols of that period contributed? Without mentioning muh 100% safe trade route.
>>289464311>no, this doesnt count because... it just doesnt, ok?!
>exotic beauty in her prime>none of the mongol lords try to make her a concubineMy suspension of disbelief can only go so far.
wtf, too many time skips, she's a hag now.
>>289464375This face mogs every girl
>>289464311Their rulers didn't care enough about the people they conquered to make them change religion
>>289464129We can't always be on the winning side>>289464160Being raped by Sitara would be a reward on Earth desu
>>289464084And in reality it's just shit that didn't become shit.
>>289463897Yes, rape and murder is bad.>>289463957Funny that most of the people crying about this aren’t even Mongolians but rapebabies from other ethnic tribes that were "forcefully assimilated" during the expansion
>>289460651>Left will conquer China and meet Marco Polo>Center will make invading Iraq a pastime>Right will be their boss
>>289464371Yeah man surely a couple trade routes catapulted eurasia by 100 years, it makes up for all the mass migrations, genetic rape and cultures destroyed.
>>289464491but enough about arabs
oh no...
Do muslims really think cutting a throat is a painless way to die?
>>289463897>MongolsThey're Xiongnu, not mongols
>>289463663>who do you thinkThat's the stubborn thing oh illustrious Sinicist, what we "think" doesn't matter concerning the facts. Not even wikipedia is bold enough to fill in the gaps and imply a city equals a province. But I'll accept your "c'mon man" since you were smart enough to only vaguely imply it instead of doubling down.
>>289463897>I'm starting to think modern Mongolians are rather pathetically sensitive about their portrayals in fiction.Genghis Khan is their national hero, of course they wouldn't understand why other nations, especially the ones that suffered his or his descendants' conquest, would view them in a negative way.
>keshite kushinaiI cannot take this phrase seriously anymore
>>289464604I’ve lived through enough eids to know that’s not true, but it’s often something people say when they feel they have to defend to defend islam from non muslims
Who gives a single fucking shit how beasts are slaughtered? They exist at Our pleasure for Our benefit.
>>289464604it isn't, but they are correct in saying it is the best way to remove blood really fast from an animal (if you hang it upside down to speed up). You can also use other arteries, but the on the neck is the easiest to find
>>289464491But enough about the Visigoths
>>289464802if you are going to eat it, it's important for how soft or hard it is. When Sitara talks about ''black meat'' she means meat that didn't have all the blood properly removed
>>289464870Imagine wasting all that nutrition. This is why the Mongols won
>>289464655Why?
>>289464802>this kills the lamb
>>289464652It's odd they'd be upset over this because if anything the shows depicts Genghis Khan in a pretty positive lightYes he's extremely brutal to his enemies (which he indisputably was irl), but he's also framed as a genuinely wise and competent ruler.
Sitara's hairy muff
I vaguely remember hearing that one of the Mongol leaders was ridiculously incompetent or something, am I misremembering?
>>289432471I thought that she was Fatima who somehow survived and ditched her own past, thus the resentment that MC displays towards her in the OP. They look the same.
>>289465007GuyukNot caught up with the manga but apparently he's an important character down the line
>>289464904I've heard it over 200 times. They gave in all 200 times.
I'd definitely yield.
I don't think anyone here has actually eaten meat that hasn't been drained of blood. I'd imagine it'd be like chewier blood sausages.
>>289455040He knows she was a slave you can't have any lose ends in her keikaku to destroy a country for the inside, nothing personnel kid
>>289463897They're not even villainized in this. The Mongol Empire is portrayed in, like, an aggressively neutral light in which it had both good and bad qualities
>>289464802Do mongolian lambs have no blood nor pain nerves?
Another wife alert in this week episode.
>>289419081https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lD_ag67tH3I
>>289455040History spoilersThey both die. Shira was the one who first accused Fatima of being a witch, causing her to get tortured and executed. Shira himself was then tortured and executed 2 years later
>>289463563In mongolia everyone except the literal royalty are expected to do menial tasks especially when there's a 41 day feast coming
Are Mongolian women cute irl?
Soon
>>289465115How would she react if Sitara calmly explained the atrocities her husband committed to retrieve that book?
>>289465400:3
>>289463897I can't tell if modern mongolians are this bitchmade or if it's just the reddit/diaspora mongolians.Your national hero is a guy that caused the brutal deaths of millions in an era where a nation might not even have a million citizens in total and the sacking of multiple major cities how are they expecting him to be portrayed if not in a negative light?
Man, mongolian meat preparation must be like leather if you actually need a sharp knife to eat anything. I wonder how it tastes.
>and also livestock
How did he not recognize her.
>>289465578Better question:why would he recognize a random scholar girl from years ago?
>>289465307Depends on your preferences. Obviously there's pretty and not so pretty ones like everywhere else.The pretty ones go anywhere from indistinguishable from a 10/10 in China or Japan to a Korean girl without jaw surgery (which I think most would still consider pretty, but definitely not the folks living east of them).You probably want to aim for Chinese Mongolians not the more westernized/Russified Mongolian Mongolians unless you're really into the whole Hollywood Asian aesthetic.
What should I read if I want to know more about the real Sitara?
>>289465542>humble bragging about 200,000 frags
>>289465620Because he was the one who had her teach his wife?
>>289465666The sheep got what it fucking deserved.
>>289465666>bullied by humans>bullied by animals
>>289465666>islamophobic sheep
>By Allah I hate mongols, my grandfather hated them too
>>289465206>>289464802I never thought about drained/non-drained meat.I wonder if there are culinary recipes that require non-drained meat.
Is Sitara still a virgin?
>>289465684Guy was busy managing an entire empire and you think he'd remember one single chick?
>>289465665There's not much to find outShe's only mentioned in the accounts of Rashid al-Din and Ata-Malik Juvayni. She's a fairly obscure figurehttps://archive.org/details/historyoftheworl011691mbp/page/n295/mode/2uphttps://archive.org/details/Boyle1971RashidAlDin/page/176/mode/2upEverything we know about her comes from these 2 sources
>>289465820Its been 800 years bro... let it go...
>>289465893Never.
>>289466043Is adult Sitara a womanlet or is Töregene just very tall?
>>289465868Yes.
>>289465875Thanks bro
>>289466108Yes
>>289465820Not an anal one
What if she was around?
>>289437151Genghis was also a rape baby. He knew it wasn't the child and the mother's fault at all.I mean, his mother could've yeeted him to a river and let him die but she didn't so I guess that played a big role into his morality.
>>289464802Lamb worrier are over, try to not be to jealous
>>289466997Jochi wasn't his first kid, it was a daughter
>>289465200It seemed to be very weak at that point and couldn't fight back, maybe due to that stone stuck in its intestines?
>Genuine brotherly bond to carry on the wishes of their father>A woman just has to come in and ruin it allA tale as old as time
