Chapter 414 early translation
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>>289428901Fuck why almost all of benjamins men have suicidal nen abilities ?
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>>289428974Loyal group think, happy to die, or murder for boss man. Does feel wasteful, some are TOO situational. And this guys powers are kinda shit, operates on the idea you're always getting the jump (and you're not last man standing). Like this seems okay in a situation where they're sent on an actual suicide mission, 'go here rush through defenses, merk the target, then you'll die', but just super wasteful.
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>>289428974It makes sense for a soldier who is willing to die for his country to have an ability that has little consideration for their own safety, since that greatly boosts the effectiveness of nen.
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Some of this shit is just too verbose. We ran through these options without the walls of text where they try to rationalize or explain it.>we're still fucked>we have no fucking idea if the swap has successfully fucked the SW>kid could still be onboard keklol>bens gunna assume so and totalinfantdeath is a viable plan>kid could be hidden so fucking well ben fails anyway>beyond is still an issue and is playing games, glhf trying to uncurse everyone as we still have to identify them and hope there's someone who can exorcise it, and assume it can't just be reapplied>again, a beyond kid could just hide>first step contact someone outside to verify wobles status (can you even trust them? the contact -> sister -> gon line could be intercepted, gotta assume there's no actual safe comms left unless someone has global scale nen telepathy, all comms should be getting intercepted/inspected/recorded, fuck the law. Even funnier if she set up a code system ahead of time.)
>>289428974They're all intended to end up going to Benny boy anyway and seeing that Benjamin can boost the abilities via repeated usage he probably ends up removing a lot of the drawbacks under his use.
>all that hype for gon and killuaface it hunterchad. the scholars are few compared to unsophisticated fanbase. We can only hope Togashi doesn't appeal to them.
>>289428826>bossInteresting sfx. You learn something new everyday
>>289429267haven't really seen that much hype honestly. doesn't seem like anyone thinks this will amount to much but a side quest at best, like troupe v ants
>>289428901> invincibility> it is a manipulation techniquew00t?
>>289429319The Invincible
>>289429319Dont bother and just wait for proper TLs later, theres too much text this week for grohk to handle.
>>289429319Same basic idea as Shalnark's autopilot just applied to a duo and with a much bigger drawback
>>289428811OP translated from Arabic to English, which is appreciated, but in the other thread we got much cleaner results translating from Spanish to English.I'll dump them here:
>>289429319Manipulation can manipulate the laws of nature
>>289429267I cant imagine getting G&K actually getting involved in this arc without it feeling like ass, especially since Gon has no power and Killua is already stuck babysitting a genie that can do practically anything, giving them an offscreen sidequest is fine though, even if I don't see Gon really being of much help with it
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>>289429041it is a wastefull ability, why not just come with an ability that creates a shield of some kind
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>>289429435didn't work so well for shikaku and vict
>>289429319terebellum can redirect damage and is functionally invincible as long as hes holding something, his ability is a mix of emission and manipulation. This isnt that different
Edward grew taller than Winry.
>>289429435there are already dudes with those powers in benjamins army and they died offscreen. maybe ben will use their abilities
>>289429048I ship them so hard it hurts.
>>289429065It's nice seeing both of them again.
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>>289429475If you follow togashi's twisster you end up seeing them quite a bit already, along with some of the recent color pages/volume cover
>>289429501OP skipped this page.Kurapika's bottom text:>"We have two major problems to worry about before we get to that.">"The first is the curse of Beyond! If the activation condition is 'to officially participate in the Succession War,' then at the very least, Prince Woble isn't included.">"However... yes, by chance, the activation condition was 'to have participated in the Ceremony of the Urn'..."
>>289429319>>289429389>>289429410As far as I understood Black Voice autopilot was the "poors man" / "hack" enhancement. He added up conditions to make himself stronger in combat.Bur making all damage "wait" until you turn off your ability is a bit weird.As another anon say, maybe manipulation is more profound that we thought.
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>>289429319Manipulators are close to specialists, so they can get wacky abilities as long as conditions let them, like conjurers.
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Does it feel cyclic, all the dialog?>we don't really know anything>we should try find this out>lets hope one of the players in the larger game will infodump at usAt least the murderspree is kicking off and will thin some of this rabble out.
>>289429549>Manipulators are close to specialists, so they can get wacky abilities as long as conditions let them, like conjurers.This is an interesting take.Being able to make "contracts/set conditions" to make "small" reality bending effects.
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>>289428901Who's that person inside room 1009 ?
>Leave babysitting to us
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>>289429549Even Chrollo said this a long agoThey're the hax affinities
hehehe martial law
>>289429523Ever read Toriko? Best comparison I could use for it that's best idea I can think of would be something like Damage Knocking from that series. You're halting the damage inside of yourself ie manipulating it (in this case probably in your aura) and dispersing it but not all of it.
>>289429570I would guess Balsamilco
>>289429625>Ever read Toriko?No my friendo.Quick gestalt on Toriko lore?
>>289428901Benjamin's boys? Golem victims the lot of them.
>>289429469I kind of assumed Benjamin Baton would give him a power gauntlet of great abilities, but the more we learn about Ben's men the stranger this toolset gets.>FMA and Predator can't work together at all and both are impractical in direct conflict>Stinger Ball is a slow assassination ability >Chiyamashi's ability is support for someone else>Secret Window is a spy ability>Air Blow and Shield Tackle are unseen>Yugioh is actually decent in a fight I'll give this one to BenjaminHow do you make a coherent combat strategy out of this?
>>289429660Pretty out there battle shounen centered around food with a lot of escalating over the top powerups. Dumb but fun.
>>289429586Gon really looks like Fujimoto's avatar.
>>289429640I suppose it could also be Vict. Not sure why anyone would be in Halkenburg's room, it could be an unrelated person as well.
>>289429640IIRC Balsamilco was on tier 2 Ministry of Justice with Halkenburg's people the moment Special Martial Law was declared so access tier 1 should be impossible
>>289429693maybe he would've found some way to use them together to make some broken combination of abilities like Chrollo did in the Hisoka fight. Their hatsus probably get a post-mortem nen buff as well.
>>289429693I've been saying it for years but Benjamin Baton is not a good ability because it sacrifices the main benefit of Benjamin being a leader of an organization; their individuality. The group has always been more dangerous and useful when they were bigger, losing members meant Benjamin could no freely deploy that ability in another room and the abilities cannot synergize as they might previously have. Stuff like the Predator -> "How to get away with murder" Now we're seeing abilities clash against each other because they were never designed to be used by a single person. Let alone that Benjamin isn't the kind of person to be flexible in his mindset and understand those around him which is crucial for stealing other powers and using them effectively. Chrollo as a thief is in a better spot because his mindset is inherently about taking from others to boost himself while being more of a solo fighter at his core. Benjamin actually needs people surrounding him to be at his strongest. His ability was flawed from the inception as it contradicted his circumstances.
>>289429501Nigga got a tumor on his forehead, chiyamashi is also the last guy to be name. now we can see all of benjamin guards drop like flies in the next chapters
>>289429777It could be Halkenburg or one of his minions in another mind swapped bodyAll of them were banished from tier 1 so you have to think about which person could gain access. Either a Benjamin soldier or a mind swapped person.
>>289429792Goddamn, the hole on that fatso's stomach always looks brutal
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>>289428826is the hand about to grab him, or what's going on here?
>>289429065MY FUARKING HEROES
>>289429960the guy was still alive after the stabbing so the Benjamin soldier had to struggle a bit to kill him, which led to him getting caught in the act by the black hunter guy.
>>289429417This nigga just became one of my favorite guards, fucker is literally singing martial law KEK. Hope he jobs with style.
>>289429840It thematically makes sense for Benjamin's crew since they're all patriots who don't mind dying for their country and would love to keep serving even after death, along with Benjamin's whole "becoming a nen god" thing and fusing with his GSB, it seems all about self-sacrifice for the country and continuing on after death.I do agree with you though that the ability does go against Ben's inherent strengths as a leader though, maybe it would've been better if he could re-assign abilities he inherited to new soldiers under his command so they can continue to take advantage of the synergies.
Oh No! Yotsuba Has Lost Her Smile!!Which Of The Princes Would Be Able To Bring It Back?
>>289429840its a reflection of bens own hubris. Same with his goal of being a god. Hes way to arrogant. That will be his downfall. Its very ironic cuz he hates both the 2nd and 4th princes for the same thing.
MAR-TIAL LAWMAR-TIAL LAWMAR-TIAL LAW
So someone activated a curse on fake wobble and it did nothing, thats the aura Kurapika was feeling?
>>289429995Benjamins patriotism is how he justifies his idiocy and arrogance. His ability reflects that. Its "self sacrifice" in the most self serving way.
>>289430025>Zhang Lei is a manletdumping all my NENCOIN immediately
>>289430050>manlet hateGTFO lanklet
Is this cultural appropriation?
>>289430025HOLY FUCK.If that turns out to be the baby, I'll kneel for Togashi eternally.
>>289430072Halkenburg has the soul of a black man
>alluka locate the real wobble and teleport us there>dna confirmation by hunter association submitted to kakin royalsBoom done. Killua is just a phone call away.
>>289430025Woble(male) is jewish?
>>289430040Also, if the fake prince is a non-participant, wtf killed all the guards at the start? It was assumed at the time to be the prince's nen beast.
>>289429995It's called Benjamin Baton so it'd make sense if he can pass the abilities on
>>289428811CRINGEI DON'T WANT TO SEE GON AGAINI WANT MORE BORKINO
>>289430109its all but confirmed to be silent majority
>>289430101Alluka brought out so many problems to the story.
>>289428901>invincibility>jobs to cooperative joint-type anywayNice "invincibility" right there faggots
>>289429319There's more depth to what can be manipulated than I thought.He's essentially manipulating damage. Lowering damage taken to 0, but afterwards they pay for it by receiving a third of the damage blocked.
>>289429415Killua can just ask her to remove the curse>tfw Beyond's curse is AIshit too so she can't remove it
>>289429693If FMA information counts towards predator it could actually be HAXIf secret window works with FMA on top of that it's ridiculous synergySecret window is very likely to work with predator, I assume? That alone is already very powerful
>>289429792The trouble with trying to assemble a winning strategy out of his subordinate's abilities is he may not be dealt all the right pieces of a deadly combo set-up by the time he needs them. What anon said about Chrollo's bandit's secret here >>289429840 is right. Chrollo handpicked all of the abilities he used in Heaven's Arena specifically to beat Hisoka. If he was missing one or two of them his combo doesn't work and his fight with Hisoka gets considerably harder. Benjamin doesn't have the same level of control of which abilities he does and doesn't have. He's randomly drawing abilities from an uncoordinated deck of cards trying to find his three card combo that wins him fights. In card game term's Benjamin is topdecking while Chrollo's searched out exactly what he needs to combo and win the game.
>>289430126>nanika has a love(ai)meter, after certain number of wish from it's beloved it took off some where never to be found.Done. You can steal this togashi
>>289429995>along with Benjamin's whole "becoming a nen god" thing and fusing with his GSB, it seems all about self-sacrifice for the country and continuing on after death.Except he would not have had the means to make himself a "nen god" before the ritual he didn't know about or plan for. >maybe it would've been better if he could re-assign abilities he inherited to new soldiers under his command so they can continue to take advantage of the synergies.For years I thought his GSB would work like Iskandar's Ionioi Hetairoi from Fate/Zero and summon a copy of his fallen men to act as mediums for Benjamin's Baton. Alas, Benjamin is so selfish he's likely to just cannibalize his own bloodline to perpetuate himself. This all goes to show that Benjamin had a shit teacher as well as having a shit mindset. At least Kurapika was willing to compromise in his vision. Benjamin couldn't even use his hatsu for who knows how long since he only had a single star before getting on the boat.
>>289430153>He's essentially manipulating damageSeems a bit too abstract for manipulation. The simpler explanation is that they're manipulating themselves to increase their defenses, not unlike Shalnark manipulating himself to increase his offense.
>>289429456Terrvellum is pure emission. He transfers damage.
>>289430177>manipulating themselves to increase their defenses, not unlike Shalnark manipulating himself to increase his offenseWouldn't that be considered enhancement, then?
Any predictions for next chapter? A fair amount of people predicted a Kurapika chapter for 114, but I assumed it was an ironic joke. Any unironic guesses?
>>289430164honestly having something like air blow and the card shield should make you a top tier combatants. and there's more coming. not all of it has great synergy but he has a whole bunch of defensive and offensive skills to choose from which isn't a reality for 99% of nen users
>>289430025scholars strike again
>>289430141This is the Nen absolutists 9/11.Pic related is Zushifag right now.
>>289430153>>289430177Manipulation has 80% Emission. He could be simply tapping into that.
>>289430219Except Potclean is probably the strongest example of nen absolutism there is? Not even Meruem could destroy it.
>>289428826uoooh mar-tial nya mar-tial nya
>>289430192I don't think so, at least not in this case. It's more like a roundabout way of achieving the same goal. Again, there's Shalnark as a precedent of manipulating your own body, and therefore your aura output, so I don't see why this ability would be any different.
>>289430232>Except Potclean is probably the strongest example of nen absolutism there is?"Nanika, destroy Potclean.""Aye."The end.
>>289430260Potclean tanks that.
>>289430187teleporting a knife blade is one thing but closing the gaping hole in someones face and transferring it somewhere else has to use manipulation as well.
>>289430232Leave Potclean to me
>>289430204Probably going back to troupe/mafia shenanigans before the martial law announcement.Maybe Togashi will give us a Gon and Killua chappy, though.
>>289428959tl;dr
>>289430232lol fucking cope man
Who asked for merch of this thing?
>>289429995>maybe it would've been better if he could re-assign abilities he inherited to new soldiers under his command so they can continue to take advantage of the synergies.Forgot to say your idea is infinity better and plays into his actual crew.
>>289430260>killua tell nanika to delete itselfThats probably going to happen
>>289430289Chrollo
>>289427929We literally watch Netero de-age by like 30 years. He might not be prime but he is way better than 50% by the time he fights Meruem.
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>>289430271Exorcism doesn't destroy something though. It just puts an ability in a new container and makes it inactive.
>>289430025Where's the swap? Baby looks same in both panel
>>289430289Theres no way chrollo left that nen remover without taking this thing with him
>>289430232That is intellectually dishonest because you exorcise nen curses like Potclean
>>289430321Right baby is ever so slightly fatter
>>289430289If even just Genthru's bombs could only be exorcised with that horrendous monstrosity, then how much did Judgement Chain fuck up Abengane?
>>289430318The chimera ant nen remover digest them
>>289430318What exactly do you thinks happens to the nen curse she is pregnant with >_>
>>289430232you can conjure items that are unbreakable with raw force but still able to be defeated or exorcised by some other means. Yokotani can make the unbeatable lawyer robots as soon as the conditions are met. But making something truly invincible is impossible
>>289427929Gotta love how people feel so smart and superior with the "this isn't Dragon Ball" argument.Meanwhile Togashi in his Jump Ryu interview, showing off what he keeps in his office:>"Toriyama, to me, is a God."Dragon Ball is easily the biggest influence on Hunter x Hunter.
>>289430355She didn't digest it. Cheetu died so her pregnancy ended.
>>289430336nen janitorsthey're invincible but harmless, so their aura cost is so minor they might as well be free
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Can we trust anything?>woble is swapped not later after the meeting, but at actual birth (covering that up might be a bit hard, but assuming beyond and the older princes are aware a SW is on the horizon they could prepare)>queen enacts a swap of her own making>somehow the two kids are look-a-like enough for it to work>same father?Whose to say beyond hasn't been running around doing IVF/ninja-rape for decades, and there's like 5 princes as his kids.
>>289430362>Yokotani can make the unbeatable lawyer robots as soon as the conditions are metKurapika couldn't make truly unbreakable chains. And we know that he would do anything in order to achieve that if it was possible.So he made the closest thing that was possible: "Essentially unbreakable chains", which he still needed to test against Uvogin's raw strength.>"You can't make an unbreakable chain... but you can come very close."There are no absolutes in Nen. Only "essentially absolutes" that will cover up to 99.9% of the cases.
>>289430398>somehow the two kids are look-a-like enough for it to workBabies all look very similar, it's not at all unbelievable that most people wouldn't have noticed the swap
>>289430260>Nanika...>make it so there's more porn of female Kite
>>289430359Nothing, it's inert and stored in her body no different than how Countdown was stored in Abengane's nen beast until he disarmed it. That's also why her belly shrank after Cheetu go squashed, there was no longer anything to contain. Given how countdown was handled, If Cheetu had just ran up on Knuckle's and hit him enough he would have also been able to dispel potclean, all Hina did was remove the mascot and stop any more increases in debt.
>>289428933what the fucktogashi had this shit planned out back then??
>>289430464Eh, that was vague enough that he could've written anything explaining that.
>>289430427If you understand it looks like she is pregnant you must understand she eventually gives birth to something..... I refuse to believe there are people put there who don't think this...
i think Shimanu is lying. did the queen always change the diapers herself?
>>289430464Togashi has most of the arc planned out. the last 2-3 batches were written in like 2018. Togashi claims to have up to 50 more chapters outlined minimum. Which would be at least up to 460.Which is why i never doubt Togashi. He has rarely disappointed me , so i can even brace through these boring dreary Kurapika chapters for the payoff and impact.
>>289430464togashi seemingly writes this typashit as an open-ended challenge to himself and he commits to a result at some point causing him to write it into stone like this chapnot saying that's bad i love it
>>289430526I hope he has that stuff written down. I don't want another Miura...yeah, he's talked about a "possible" ending to HxH, but I wanna know how the Succession War ends.
>>289430318>>289430427Exorcism doesn't destroy aura, but instead transforms it into another form. The inconvenience of the new form is proportional to the strength of the exorcised nen. The two examples of nen exorcism we've seen so far make it look like a miserable ability to have, so it's no wonder exorcists are so rare.Here's a challenge to you nen autists - try to come up with an exorcism hatsu that would actually be cool to have.>>289430477>>289430529Prince Wobble had different hair before and after the baby swap, so this twist was planned from the beginning.
Another Gon https://files.catbox.moe/l7jvjp.jpg
>>289430560>try to come up with an exorcism hatsu that would actually be cool to haveThey need to keep in mind Exorcism is extremely costly.
>>289430575Don't do that
>>289428826Don't read this slop, wait for Togashi's Troupe or the official TL.
>>289430560>Prince Wobble had different hair before and after the baby swapit is very likely to have been planned since the beginning but Togashi is notoriously inconsistent in his art so no one picked up on it.
>>289430560>Here's a challenge to you nen autists - try to come up with an exorcism hatsu that would actually be cool to have.I once thought of a manipulation ability that would allow someone to transfer curses from other people to themself, and curses they have to other people, not really sure what conditions it would require though. It has both defensive and offensive uses, not just lifting people's curses but also the user could deliberately collect curses to put onto other people.
>>289428901>>289430141>>289430219>has to be co-executed with a partner>won't work against another joint-type ability>forced zetsu for 100x the invincibility time>once the zetsu is lifted the partner will receive damage equivalent to one-third of the total damage nullifiedHow come that ability has so many drawbacks ? That seems a lot of restrictions and backlashes for pseudo-invincibility. According to the nen logic, with so many conditions to fullfill it should be 10 times stronger.
I was 50/50 on Woble being on the boat, but with the way Kurapika is talking, he clearly is leaning on Woble not being on the boat sideIts 30/70 now, Woble probably isn't on the boat. It was pretty interesting to see Kurapika thinks Woble might still be part of the SW too even if he isn't on the boat.
Fuck it, I'll say it, Togashi is awful at writing exposition.
>>289430583>>289430560Is Predator an exorcism ability?
>>289430635This arc would be much better with a narrator instead of having characters explain everything.
>>289430498>you must understand she eventually gives birth to somethingI know it's your fetish, but exorcism has never had a transformative process implied. I's all about taking on the burden and hoping he conditions for removal can be achieved with or without killing the creator of an ability. >>289430560>try to come up with an exorcism hatsu that would actually be cool to have.Honestly, Predator is in line with what I would want to do since Rihan's ability created a creature that appears to exorcise nen similar to how Abengane's beast exorcised Genthru's bomb. I would just want to create a custom nen beast to handle the burden but with the idea that I'm tailoring it to an opponent's ability with a boost to it's creation. Technically Kurapika's syringe chain also exorcises abilities and it does so just by applying the SUCC to a nen user.
>>289430640Yes. Naturally.
>>289430601It's written "early translation" in the thread description for a reason u dumb
>>289430633The whole point of this arc is people having to decipher things with 50% of the picture and constantly being wrong.Woble being on the boat is just an infinitely more interesting narative options that provides more challenges for togashi as a writer.I'd bet my entire house on the baby being on the boat, body and/or soul
>>289430647The narrator is busy explaining nen abilities
>>289430653>Technically Kurapika's syringe chain also exorcises abilities and it does so just by applying the SUCC to a nen user.If that's considered exorcism, then couldn't Skill Hunter work as a perfect exorcist, Chrollo could just collect the curses in his book and never use them?
>>289430575nobubro btw
>>289430633>hey Nanika, takes to Woble>*teleports them to the boat*>Oito's room>the baby IS Woble but had a trans surgery
>>289430601"Togashi's Troupe" is fucking slacking and the arabs and spics are running slaps around them.All that wait for a version that is only marginally better than the Yayanken to English translation >>289429408
>>289430653<_< her being NEN PREGGERs implies a transformative process
>>289430025Gon Killua bros...
This must be the most boring and pretentious arc in all of shounen history.
>>289430673>Woble being on the boat is just an infinitely more interesting narative options that provides more challenges for togashi as a writer.>I'd bet my entire house on the baby being on the boat, body and/or soulthis, at the very least it means Kurapika has to find real Woble himself.
>>289430647That wouldn't work. The whole point of the arc is to follow what each individual character knows and understands and their thought process and how their thinking will play into their actions. The narrator wouldn't work here. Even your basic low wage English teacher could tell you a narrator wouldn't work as well here, regardless of how well togashi is doing the exposition
Pitou is on the boat.
>>289430690>then couldn't Skill Hunter work as a perfect exorcistOnly in the sense that it can remove an ability from a person like steal chain does. But the difference with proper exorcism abilities is that Skill Hunter can only remove the hatsu of the creator of an ability because it requires talking with them and having them touch the book. But Steal Chain can presumably take abilities forced on people given the shoddy translations of the current chapter as Kurapika offers to exorcise fake Woble of their possible nen curse. >>289430706She's a chimera ant, their biology is based around consumption and assimilation. Hina just manifested this disposition by "eating" abilities to contain them, she didn't fuck Potclean and get nen preggers. That's more likely Benjamin's GSB ability given the Xenomorph comparisons.
>>289430720I still subscribe to fake Woble being a Beyond baby. Benjamin baby sounds too farfetched.
>>289430709It's just long winded (lots of repetition, and characters going on long what-if rants theorizing shit which amounts to; "I have no fucking idea until I make contact") and there's too many characters waiting in the wings to basically just die, plus years between releases doesn't help.
>>289430640God I love Rihan
>>289430763on that note i think Nasubi doesn't actually give a shit about Beyond's machinations as long as they adhere to contest rules. he's probably fully aware of all of it. if anything wouldn't he think it helps maximize the potential results of the contest?and he's probably also aware of the baby swap fuckery. if it actually does fuck with contest rules or potential results, i imagine he made sure Woble would be on the boat just so things run as intended.
>>289430751Maybe I do have some sort of fetish because I can tell the obvious difference between pregnancy and a full tummy
Reminder that Gon/Killua is cute and canon and no amount of that fujo-hating bitch Naoko forcing her self-insert “Noko” into the story just to derail the ship will ever change that!
https://voraciousdrake.wordpress.com/2026/07/17/hxh-414-friends/Good TL is up
>>289430720I agree with you but because I want Togashi to draw Terrorsandwich mass killing babies
>>289430546Togashi looks pretty healthy compared to most mangaka at least.
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>>289430827its a pretty common theory that nasubi knows about morena and doesn't care for the same reasons you stated. Nasubi has utmost confidence in the ceremony and the next king proving themselves throughout whatever conflict
>>289429660our repilian overlords want to literally eat the planet so they set up a massive solar shade/reflector to cook it to perfection
From a pure > I want this from an entertainment, engrossing narrative, hypothetical plot lines perspective You'd have to be a boring person to prefer Woble being off the boat
Togashi treats saying the dumbest shit like it's a massive bombshell
>>289430828>because I can tell the obvious difference between pregnancy and a full tummyBut you can't tell the difference between function of ability and genetic dispositions. Hina never says anything about "birthing" anything with her ability, but she does complain about having to host an ability with her power.
>Bill:Me, I don’t have the loyalty nor the commitment to keep working under the guy after hearing about all the things he’s done and he’s about to do!!>You, on the other hand, are the type to see your mission through once you’ve set your mind on something. A common trait among villains, actually. Seriously, man, hats off to you. I wouldn’t want to hang out with you outside of work.oof
>>289430944It'll just be a trap or extortion situation Gon/killua deal with
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>>289430963Next week...
>>289430747I believe
If togashi is willing to write a Gon/killua subplot during the succession war then I'll have to regret calling all the "Gyro arc will happen during the DC arc" people retards
>>289430560>Here's a challenge to you nen autists - try to come up with an exorcism hatsu that would actually be cool to havetransmuted aura that can seep into the body, suck nen like a leech sucks blood, and filter it out. The idea is to draw what you're exorcising into your own body, and once you're done, there's a leech inside you slowly purging the curse.It will constantly be draining your aura until it can finish the job, and if there's no more aura to drain, it will start consuming your blood and nutrients. You'll likely need to drain aura from other people to avoid death, but you can just go into a crowd of normals and walk around. No need to suck them dry, either. If you have a nen user buddy who wants to help, all the better. The constant drain also makes it an unorthodox battle hatsu, albeit a risky one.
>>289430959Kurapika abandoned his so-called friends for personal revenge and angst in the end. Wouldn't even see Gon in the hospital because his clan mattered more. He also dove into the criminal underworld to accomplish his goals and is basically running a mafia family, no matter how he pretends they have gone legit. Bill has him clocked just right. Kurapika was going to use a mother and infant as a springboard to get in contact with the target of his vengeance. He just got used in reverse better.
How is Hisoka going to get out of all this shit? All the characters in this arc have such broken fucking powers including Chrollo himself that I'm wondering how is going to be. And I'm rooting for Hisoka myself but shit is insane. Also what the fuck is Morena's plan here? Why she gave all that information to that bitch useless soldier in the last chapter if she can't even force her to do what she wants? She basically infodumped her in the off-chance she is useful, but she seems hellbent in just being a traitor and spoil all the info to the other dogs.Any ideas?
>>289430959Bill the based
>>289430972how the fuck is she smiling, that's literally not Shizuku
>>289430998Hisoka doesnt have to give a shit about anything except for the troupe. He has no reason to join into any conflict. He'll pop in, kill a few troupe members and chrollo, and enjoy the ride.
>>289430951It's a classic togashism to list every possibility
>>289430560Just transform the exorcised nen into a kamehameha and blast it into sky
>>289431037How is going to defeat Chrollo and other troupers though? His gum nen has such a limited amount of practicality against pure brutal strength. If Chrollo goes all out and other troupers start throwing fucking suns in the ship shit's fucked. I wonder if Hisoka has something up his sleeve or is counting on external help
>>289430998>How is Hisoka going to get out of all this shit?Despite the appearences he seems to be in contact with well informed individuals on the BW >She basically infodumped her in the off-chance she is usefulThat must be one of Morena's ability restrictions
>>289431031She's smiling at the thought of getting to do more wrestling with Gon
>>289430959Kurapika is kind of an asshole, often speaking in an antagonizing way, and has ghosted his friends multiple timesI can't fault Bill
>>289430963>>289430972imagine how good the head she gives must be if her hatsu is literally about sucking
>>289431061What do you mean? 75% of the troupe are alone and suck at fighting hisoka in a 1v1. The only challenge for hisoka would be feitan and phinks because theyre teamed together, but at least one of them is guaranteed to die to the hei-ly.
>>289430959Well he's not wrong.
>>289430944Oh its going to be entertaining.Tse is going to make Herod look like a saint
>>289430959Bill's right. He actually has a good head on his shoulders to go with his heart, all things considered.
>>289430951monke
>>289431109
>>289430953Sorry anon I don't care about that stuff. When she complains its to sound like a prep girl expressing pregnancy-related body dissatisfactionHina looks like she is pregnant, her ability is obviously to ??? > get nen pregnant > after a few months give birth to a nen babyEnd of story
>>289428990I am not high/low iq enough to understand this mtl gobbletygook
>>289431096There's too much potential for baby killing plot line. But togashis obsession with anticlimaxes and blueballing worries me when this arc is such mass potential.I could just imagine this arc having the most wet fart climax to subvert all the chaotic potential he setup to show togahi's "le genius"
>>289431073
>>289431138here's a high-quality human translation >>289430837
>>289430951This is intense stuff anon
Togashi must either kill nanika or reveal their powers have limits because if it stays as its, killua is the most powerful person in the world. He can do anything he wants because Nanika is a walking cheat code.
>>289431146Why is a child instantly more competent than 95% of people a year and a half after learning nen?
>>289431066>That must be one of Morena's ability restrictionsBut was it mentioned explicitly that she can restrict others from revealing hers plans or her powers? Otherwise giving so much information to someone who is basically a dead weight, who is not motivated to participate, and was stupid enough to cheat in the previous game is a super risky move.
>>289431157>The IlliadLiterally on the level of shounen manga, it just gets a pass because it's over two thousand years old.
>>289430959Based fuck kurapika
>>289431085But Hisoka is alone too, not to mention he seems to have multiple enemies in the boat and... 0 allies? Except for Kurapika, and is not clear if he knows that Hisoka is there. Shit is about to go down in a few chapters and the stakes are all time high.
>>289431176I think she has Borksen pegged as a comfortist and a coward who'll ultimately choose to preserve her own skin than play the hero. Plus she can also observe the people under her spell.The game is probably rigged anyway
>>289431171Determination and vows.When most people become hunters just for the big bucks or to pursue their autistic special interests, it makes sense that most hunters don't really practice nen.Kurapika studied nen hard because he knew he would need it to accomplish his goals and get his revenge.
>>289431157East of Eden is like 5th grader tier writing. The succession war is literally two times harder to read. Sucsession War is pretty comparable to Brother Kamarazov though.
>>289431129>I don't care about that stuffI know, you are a gooner. You can't think straigh
>>289431233>You can't think straighPregnancy is the straightest thing to think about though
>>289430959Pika is going to be heartbroken when Bill is revealed to be working for Beyond's child, Exceed Hui Guo Rou nee Netero .
>>289431205>Shit is about to go down in a few chapterAnother one! Drink. Man this game will give me an early death
>>289431157this image feels like exactly quentin shitpost
>>289431251I am mistaken or are you just trolling?
These wholesome retards are now part of Gyro's gang of misantrophic killers
>>289431276no. I made it a personal game in 2017 to take a shot every time someone said >something something going to go down or crazy in these chaptersonly for it to just be more setup. I think I might die soon, luckily this manga only publishes every 2 years for 2 months
>>289431163>Nanika>I wish you'd grant wishes with no strings attached>NOW BRING BACK KuraYAPika'S CLAN>SKIP TO THE DARK CONTINENT ARC ALREADY>AND FINALLY MAKE THE MORENA x BORKSEN SEX PANEL REAL
>>289431126the R. Kelly episode was basically the legal battle section people were hoping for years ago.
>>289431291which of them will join him, and which of them will oppose? either way, his faction is probably taking over Meteor City now that the PT and Heil-Ly left a power vacuum.
>>289431291Chimera gang vs Morena gang World domination vs World destruction
>>289431176>was it mentioned explicitly that she can restrict others from revealing hers plans or her powers?It's unclear, as many things concerning Morena and Borksen "contract".
>>289430409>Yokotani can make the unbeatable lawyer robots as soon as the conditions are met> unbeatable Allegedly.I still don't buy it.
>>289431331Welfin was loyal as fuck to Gyro despite his nature. Basically his right hand man.Hina is totally brainless and follows without question.Ikalgo is the only one that might have his doubts.
>>289431331The most interesting par tof the gyro equation, and why i want to see the arc, is that gyro isnt a fighter. He's a schemer, poltician, a leader. Pariston is the closest major character to that and he is more of a troll and not a leader.Meanwhile, Gon is a combat heavy adventurer.How the fuck is Gon going to be a main player in an arc that may have lots of social, political, and economic exploration/analysis.
>>289431382My hero
>>289431145There are like 5 things that cam end the SW right now, it feels like this arc is hanging on a thread Even though 414 made it abundantly clear the setup is still going on
>>289431085>at least one of them is guaranteed to die to the hei-ly.you can't seriously believe this
>>289431384>gyro isnt a fighterCan't really say that, I mean, he's a Chimera Ant now. He can definitely hold his own.While Pariston is a troll, he did tell Ging not to underestimate his combat abilities. He's a triple star Hunter after all (or was).
>>289430174>At least Kurapika was willing to compromise in his visionIt took Izunavi a LOT of effort and convincing to move Kurapika's stubborn brain and heart into doing so. He even reflects on it after subduing Sayird
>>289431359>As long as I do not consider it crossing the lineMan I hope this crazy woman has a plan. I know she is bad but I'm rooting for her honestly. Kakin and 90% of the princes including the King himself are such human trash that the kamikaze approach of Morena seems like benign holy justice in comparison to what they really deserve.
Speaking of which, what are the chances that real Woble was taken to Meteor City? Seems like the ideal place to disappear into
>>289431382>>289431397>Benjamin: Why do you want to join the army, son?>Kanjidol:...
>Kurapika has a heartwarming moment with Oito that's reminiscent to when he held Woble in their first meeting>Gon/Killu glimpseYep, I'm guessing this is the end of the "more setup then anything else" section of the arc. Next time we see Kurapika major things will be happening.
next chapter will be about borksen meeting up with her friends
>>289430560By me
>>289431384i think about this a lot. i think when Gon is properly reintroduced, he's probably gonna have some amount of morality and ethics established, and maybe an ideology formed or gestating. the way to beat Gyro is indeed through words. however, there's a character who's gonna be pissed that it doesn't end with combat. whatever transpires there could be the culmination of the series.
>>289431501I wishBut Borkson finished her card game after the start of martial law, and next chapter will be a flashback to "20 minutes before martial law," so we're guaranteed to not see her
>>289431382Literally me fr fr
>>289429065What's Gon gonna do? lol, he's a nenlet and a retard, pretty sure he can't contribute anything
>>289431533Borksen will kill a prince probably because I don't see her killing a bunch of civilians.Either Luzurus or Zhang
>>289431465The Kakin festivals don't necessarily concern the Princes or the King but most likely some part of the Kakin "high society" or "deep state". Even the King has not much power over those people.
>>289429456>>289430187He either transfers the damage or tanks it within his body. And it is an emissive ability as it was explained.Now, for a brief reminder, Emission and Manipulation are next to each other in the chart.
so whats discussion like for ASOIAF fans? I'm trying to picture what discussion will be for this series when it ends up unfinished
>>289430192Poor man enhancement.Or "high iq dork" enhancement.Instead of just enhancing you add conditions and restrictions to achieve something relatively similar to an enhancer.
>>289431561Theres a whole swath of celebrities and richies on tier 2, which is the least explored tier by far. Wonder if it'll stay that way.
>>289430269>teleporting a knife blade is one thing but closing the gaping hole in someones face and transferring it somewhere else has to use manipulation as well.Does he "close the gap" / heal the wound?I think not.His ability is reactive.The second the weapon makes contact he teleport away.Except that is explicitly confirmed that it is emission an manipulation.
>>289431566ceaselessly rereading looking for clues in intentionally vague or obfuscated descriptions and reframing scenes under the perspective of some false or ludicrous theories like Daario=Euron.
>>289431465>>289431561Watch Morena and her cronies turn the Festival Participants into a large scale human centipede
>>289431157>pretentious litfag still lurking after getting anally gaped in past threadsFunniest shit ever
>>289431566>so whats discussion like for ASOIAF fans?Mostly - Worldbuilding, things that happened way before any of the events of any of the books.- Convoluted illuminati conspiracies and aylmaos in westeros.- Meaningless trivia and minor characters fates.
>At the end of the duration, a forced Zetsu will be imposed for 100x the duration of the invincibility. In addition, as soon as the Zetsu is lifted, [the volunteer] receives recoil damage from their own aura that is equivalent to 1/3 of all the attacks they have nullifiedwhat are the consequences of this?can't someone else defend him from his own aura attack?
>>289431561They're all connected and related. In a monarchy government everything moves because you're the cousin of a mother, of a uncle that is the brother of the king. Most of the princes themselves are scumbags that are completely fine with infanticide, murdering their own brothers/sisters, raping, being degenerates who only care about money and power. Some of them are straight up psychos and perverts. And since Morena seems to be a descendant of the royal house, the King clearly participates in these rape epstein festivals.
>>289431465Morena's plan seems pretty simple. Start a killing frenzy on the lower tier normies and get the royal army to crack down on the mafia. The Heil-Ly are classified as passengers so they'll get left alone despite being the ones at fault, but life won't be so easy for the other two families. Tse's friends theorized the Justice Bureau looking the other way for the Heil-Ly would force the other two families to incite a riot on the lower tiers among the normalfags to revolt against the army and upper tiers. Once everything's gone to hell between the lower deck passengers and the army her family will be free to do whatever she wants.I'll venture a guess that her joker is also her key into tier 1 where she can directly attack the royal family while the army is busy.
>>289431146chapter of pic related good sir?wanna reread it
>>289430837>Cakinnit's been there in front of our eyes the whole time.although i'm pretty sure i read it as Kakin in the other translations.
>>289431561>The Kakin festivals don't necessarily concern the Princes or the KingThe rape babies from the festivals have their faces scared because they count as royal bastards, which confirms some royal involvement in the festivals.My guess is that Benjamin, Cammy and Zhang participate in the festivals, which is why Tubeppa is so determined to kill them.Tser doesn't participate, because killing common country bumpkins doesn't fit with his serial killer philosophy. Tubeppa and Halkenburg mistake his refusal to participate as some sort of moral stance, which is why the two of them think Tser is a good guy. It's the only explanation I can think of for why the two most morally conscious Prince's think they have some commonality with Tse, despite Tse being so evil.
>>289431622Since it's his own aura, the attack is likely to come from inside his own body. It'd be like trying to defend against the Othro sibilings' fish darts; can't really react to an attack that doesn't exist until it hits you. Even then, protecting somebody else with nen isn't as simple as just touching them, you'd need a hatsu made for that.Yeah, technically the downside can be mitigated, but you'd need a specific partner around with impeccable timing.
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>>289431205>But Hisoka is alone too, not to mention he seems to have multiple enemies in the boat and... 0 allies?There are some implications that he might have connections to either the mafia or one of the princes.
>>289428894Togashi keeps bringing up how the sensory overload from En often makes ot impractical to use. I wonder if it would be worthwhile to create a nen beast that uses En for you and processes the information for you.I can't imagine creating a nen beast that can use En is particularly difficult as long as you can use the technique yourself, so even people bad at Conjuration should be capable of that. If the beast was in physical contact with you (sitting on your shoulders like Ben and Halk's beasts for example) then you wouldn't need to worry about any issues from detaching a large chunk of aura from yourself, so non-Emitters could probably handle it that way. I wonder what sort of restriction you'd need to keep such a nen beast from being unwieldy. I guess you could restrict what information the nen beast passes on to you, so it would be an inferior En in terms of imformation gathering, but superior in terms of sensory load.
>>289431622This is probably the one of the shittiest hatsus yet, on the same level as Cheetu's abilities.Getting put into forced zetsu for hours or even days potentially is absolutely devastating for a nen user, that's literally on the same level as a curse like Judgement Chain or Potclean. At best it's a very situational ability that only makes sense to use if one knows unavoidable damage that needs to be mitigated for some time is incoming. This feels less like a "supportive" ability and more like a very roundabout offensive ability on the level of a part 8 Jojo stand.
>>289431761I imagine a lot of the shitty nen users have these types of abilities. They don't really have enough talent to make a powerful ability so they rely on specific conditions to make something half way useful
A lot of people on other sites are really excited about Gon/Killua, I’m just afraid they’ll end up taking up even more screentime when it seemed like things were actually starting to happen.
>>289431754Isn't making a Nen beast that can use En for you self-defeating? Sure, you're bypassing the burden of En, but you're having to make an entire hatsu to do it in the first place. Siwtching one hassle for another, You'd be better off practicing En until you reached a satisfactory level, or making a better, radar type power.
>>289431796they're hyping themselves up for something that won't happen
>>289431754Since nen beast are all emitted and not conjured, having an en-nen-beast is actually very smart.
>>289431761It's kind of ability that /a/ users would have IRL. They try to make something OP but they have no talent so they add so many conditions it becomes useless.
Here we go again
>>289431754>Togashi keeps bringing up how the sensory overload from En often makes ot impractical to useXeno was using 300m en in a skyscraper and Kite was using 40m en in a forest, so it probably can't be that bad, though Xeno and Kite probably have had lots of practice to deal with the sensory issues.If someone is at the point of conjuring nen beasts to use en, they would probably be better off just making nen beasts with heightened sight/hearing/smell to detect targets otherwise, that would probably be a more effective use of aura.
>>289431823True. Kurapika's chain are also emitted.
I’m emitted
I'm enhanced
>>289431843Beyond's children were emitted
>>289431792what separates a good Nen user from a bad one though? everyone trained in Nen is aware that stacking conditions amplifies your hatsu, so why did this guy create a condition where someone else absorbs all the damage instead of himself?it would undoubtedly be a stronger ability if he took the blowback damage from the target as the nen contract gets amplified by putting yourself at risk. so the only conclusion I can come to is he deliberately made a bad ability for himself just because it would be stronger for Benjamin when he inherits it, as Benjamin would absolutely not be willing to risk being forced into zetsu.seems like a running theme with these guys that all their abilities are handcrafted for Benjamin to inherit and often not even very good individually.
I think i used to care about this arc a decade ago now im so over it...
>>289430560Showdown: the nen is removed from the target and transformed into a thematically appropriate nen beast. The nen beast then challenges the target to a due to the death, and gives the target a period of time to prepare; the stronger the nen, the shorter the preparation time. If the nen beast is defeated, then it is gone for good; if it wins, then it becomes a fully independant, flesh-and-blood creature and may go off to do whatever it pleases. The nen beast is incapable of being harmed or inconvenienced by anyone other than the target by any means until the duel has concluded.
>>289431754>I can't imagine creating a nen beast that can use En is particularly difficult as long as you can use the technique yourselfWhat? En itself is one of the most advanced forms of nen application, so why would creating a nen beast with En be any less difficult? Also, we already know that too many people or too much noise can make maintaining En very difficult, if someone does develop a hatsu that combines a nen beast with En, it would only be useful in fairly empty places.
The original Emitter power.
>>289431649Solid observations. My only gripe is that by the time she comes to attack the "royal family" most of them will be dead. I mean, they're half dead at this point and Benjamin is guaranteed to take a few bastards with them and Halkenburg then take a few more. I wonder if the role of Morena will be ending like a wild card between the Troupe, the royal family, Kurapika and the hunters. Since she is the only one who is there for the love of the game.
>>289431823Another bad example of emitted nen beasts since they are literally described as conjured
>>289431622It's a power that's only really useful in firefights.You can't use it in CQC because you always have to maintain contact and that will be very easy to break.It would be especially shit in nen fights too.Its only application is really for gunfire but even so you're still screwed at the end if you got shot too much, it's just the difference between dying in one shot vs dying in 40 shots after killing all your enemies with your invincibility.
>>289431853pretty good point
>>289431872>En itself is one of the most advanced forms of nen application, so why would creating a nen beast with En be any less difficult?It wouldn't? I never said that and I don't know why you think I said that. I'm just saying that if you are capable of using En, then you could theoretically offload some of the sensory burden.
>>289431829My Nen ability? A strong punch.
>>289430105OY VEY, STOP NOTICING
whats the best example of an emitted nen beast.Also, is there any use for a nen world like cheetus? I dont see the point of that type of abilitiy.
>>289431928>whats the best example of an emitted nen beast.Goreinu >Also, is there any use for a nen world like cheetus?Knov's rooms are presumably some conjured extradimensional space
>>289431928>I dont see the point of that type of abilitiy.it's pretty broken if you want to lockdown someone for a while
>>289431928Probably that dragon Zeno made for Netero and Meruem to ride. It was basically just raw aura molded into a shape - very different from a typical nen beast.
>try to make teleportation hatsu>have no talent so you need to add restrictions like only being usable indoors on a Sunday night while standing on one footThis is what would realistically happen if /a/ was transported into the HxH world.
>>289428901Its weird they didn't use this guy to counter Cammy
>>289431754you dont have to go this far, in fact its a massive waste of aura. Characters like kortorpi, dogman, kurapika, morena, palm and kalluto all have applications to their hatsu that allow them to track and sense people without en. Leroio even has a application to his ability that works like a radar that ging just made up on the spot. Instead of designing a whole beast (only for it to just use en for you) ur better off designing some hatsu applications that are similar to en and less overwhelming.
I feel like Gon and Killua's friendship won't be the same ever again so I'm interested in seeing how they interact with each other after reuniting.
>>289431928>Also, is there any use for a nen world like cheetusCuts off the opponent from the outside world and makes them play by your rules. The ultimate homefield advantage. Even if you just fuck around for hours unable to hurt each other, that can still be valuable.
>>289431928>Also, is there any use for a nen world like cheetus? I dont see the point of that type of abilitiy.isn't Knov's ability a nen world that he can conjure portals to?but if you're strictly talking about conjured reality marbles then I guess you could create one that is an ocean or the vacuum of space and just have an endurance test with your opponent. or just have a guy that walks around in a diving helmet/spacesuit. actually that sounds fucking cool togashi should do it.
>>289431928If you want a real answer, pic related is the only emitted beast we've seen. For the retard answer see Razor/Goreinu/Netero.
>>289430101>dna confirmationYeah that's how you get everyone killed there. Kakin law doesnt permit that
>>289431928>Also, is there any use for a nen world like cheetus? I dont see the point of that type of abilitiyWalk up to this dude >>289428901 and cuck him out of his invincibility power
LEAVE CAMILLA TO ME
Is this the most text-heavy chapter yet?
>>289431969...in 15 years
>>289431792>I imagine a lot of the shitty nen users have these types of abilities. They don't really have enough talent to make a powerful ability so they rely on specific conditions to make something half way usefulTo the contrary.Shitty nen users have low aura pool, low aura output, low base attributes, limited or bad skill in the nen principles and advanced applications an lack imagination.Is precisely because they suck that they need convoluted abilities with tons of vows, preconditions and specific applications to make them OP in specific scenarios.Strong nen users just pull something like bungee gum.
How the hell does Morel's ability work? Is his smoke real, transmuted, or conjured?
>>289431976>For the retard answer see Razor/Goreinu/Neterowhy is this the retard answwer? Its the logical answer
>>289429065our male HEROES
>>289432027It's the logical answer for wikitards with brain damage. They value spreadsheets and minmaxing more than what the story actually shows.
>>289431834Marione
>>289432042Ging fears her btwShe's Zodiac level, at the very leastMaybe even royal guard tier.
>>289432042Milluki looks very cute in that picture.
>>289432027All of those are solid objects
>>289430560Bloodletting:- The target of exorcism should willingly remain in a state of zetsu.- The target of exorcism should willingly allow himself to be bleed out.- There is a direct rate of conversion between blood loss and how powerful the ability is.- Against weak curses you can eliminate the curse with a few drops of blood.- Against really strong curses the ability potentially fails, unable to exorcise the curse before the target bleeds out.
>>289432026the core is emission/manipulationthe smoke is described as "smoke aura" so it's probably transmutation
>>289432062Zeno's dragon was solid. You can turn aura solid via transmutation.
>>289432073-_-; it literally real smoke he manipulates Stop it
>>289432062clearly the dragon is solid, given that there is an old man and perfect cell riding it
>>289432067> Muh i will transfue myself blood while receiving the exorcismNo.Your blood loss is directly correlated to your loss of total aura pool which also correlates to the power of the curse.You are literally waging your life against the curse.Receiving blood during the process violates the precondition.
>>289432073So Morel doesn't actually use smoke? It's just aura that kind of looks like it? And therefore his smokescreen is useless against non nen users?
>>289432062so is Zeno's dragon
>>289432026He's a manipulator, and his smoke is at least partially real so it isn't conjured. It was stated that he can't make new smoke unless he actually smokes from his pipe and exhales. It's emission combined with enhancement to create the smoke, and then he uses manipulation to shape it.>>289432073it isn't transmutation because that's his lowest affinity. why would he create an ability that relies on using his worst affinity?
>>289430560I remember a while back an anon posted their idea for a soapy bubble transmutation hatsu that could clear curses if the user scrubbed the target hard enough. I thought that was a very neat idea for a transmutation hatsu.
>>289432075Ok? That has nothing to do with what I said, the concept of emitted nen beasts is retarded
Next week emitted nen beasts will become real
Conjured smoke.
>>289432084I thought that too, but unfortunately, no.
Having an En based hatsu is perfectly reasonable. Gon's Jajanken is just Ko with extra steps, so why not a just add extra conditions and steps to En to boost it's effectiveness?For example, have an En that can only detect lifeforms and nothing else. This restriction could massively boost the range of the en while also limiting the "information overload" that would otherwise be a problem.Then formalize the technique with some prerequisites, like you have to do some hand-signs or something before activating it, and in exchange for that added restriction your En becomes invisible.This would unironically be an extremely useful hatsu that would be plot relevant in almost every arc in series.If you're a conjuror, then using a nen beast as a function of this technique also makes sense. Requiring the nen beast to perform En would function as an additional restriction, boosting the En's effectiveness.And if a nen beast is the one doing the En, you wouldn't have to worry about memory overload or whatever. An external source of En observation has a ton of additional functionality. Your beast could act as a security camera, observing a location while you're elsewhere. It could have an alarm function, that alerts you and your allies when and unknown life form enters a specific area. It could keep watch while you're asleep, and wake you if something happens.Perhaps it could even have a "rewind" feature, like Little Window.Don't forget that conjured items and beast can have their own personalities. A sentient nen beast could be given instructions to watch out for certain things, or to spy on a specific person for a specific time.>>289431928>Also, is there any use for a nen world like cheetus? I dont see the point of that type of abilitiy.Cheetu's ability is basically a domain expansion.
>>289431362>Allegedly.He already said his robots cannot stop the 1st prince's men due their legitimacy (it surpasses his vows and limits)
>>289432019That's what I just said
>>289432114Are we sure about the translation?They already pulled weird shit like called Razor devils conjured goons when the literal japanese translation was nen beast.
>>289432105I agree, but "it's solid" is not a valid argument. The real answer is that emitted aura looks like aura. It cannot mimic conjured matter without some wrapper like a balloon.
>>289432117>domain expansion.Don't bring up terms from dogshit subpar manga to the GOAT.
Cute future guro nen beast
I had a dream where Rihan began to face off against Kurapika. If he doesn't have time to generate a Predator, he can summon a default one that he's already made. It was depicted lovingly over the course of several pages. It looked like a fem Cheetu with Zazan's tits.
>>289432101>why would he create an ability that relies on using his worst affinity?Tell that to Netero>>289432117>Having an En based hatsu is perfectly reasonable.That's likely what Nobunaga's hatsu is, he attacks anyone in his 4m en range with a super enhanced sword.
>>289432101>why would he create an ability that relies on using his worst affinity?If people keep treating 40% affinity as 0% I am going to fucking scream. Morel has a gigantic fucking aura pool has very, very high affinity for smoke; it is fine.
>>289432101Morel can make smoke underwater. it isn't real. It has to be conjured or transmuted. Since he uses manipulation, it makes the most sense for it to be conjured. The pipe is just a restriction because he's bad at conjuration.
>>289432125I don't have the Nipponese version on hand, and I can't read moon runes anyway. I just go off of the information I have. It is possible the translator hallucinated some retarded headcanon, but I couldn't tell you if that's true or not.
Even the JP community is uncertain about Morel's ability, as far as I can tell.
>>289432117I want to create a hunter x hunter character and nen beast hatsu inspired by https://gs-mikami.fandom.com/wiki/ShikigamiNen ability: 12 heavenly beasts- Every nen beast will have a different power.- Nen beast act as magical beasts and can be killed / destroyed- The process to resurrect / conjure again a nen beast takes at least a week- The conjurer pays with part of his lifespan. The beasts are literally an extension of the conjurer.- Part of the restrictions is that every conjured beast takes away living essence from the conjurer and acts essentially as a living being. They have their own personalities and quirks and some level of independence.- They are loyal to the conjurer but their own idiosyncrasy could sometimes jeopardize their mission.So what abilities will you give to each shikigami?
>>289432148>Morel can make smoke underwater.STRONG smoke.
Is there any example of a non-nen user being unable to see Morel's smoke? I'm too lazy to re-read the CA chapters looking for it.
Do people also think Killua actually absorbs electricity from wall sockets? He doesn't, it's just a restriction.
>>289432114He has real smoke from his pipe in his lungs anon, smoke aura I don't know why its phrased like that
>>289432189Yes, he used a smokescreen when hunting peon ants.
>>289432198Honestly this did confuse me for a while.
>>289432204So his smoke isn't emitted/transmuted then, it has to be conjured or real smoke.
>>289432198D-don't we see him literally charging himself like a cell phone
>>289432202He makes smoke underwater. We never once see him light up and actually smoke the pipe. The pipe is not for smoking, he has to hold it as a condition.
>>289432092Nen is neccessarily invisible (Silent Majority's snakes) so maybe not. We don't really have much to go off of.The only time Morel uses his somke against anyone even normie-adjacent onscreen is when he makes a smoke cloud around some fodder ants. Obviously, they could see the smoke, but who knows whether or not that had nen.
too many fucking words
>>289431475>Too murder, and pillage! And of course rape sir!
>>289432101>it isn't transmutation because that's his lowest affinity. why would he create an ability that relies on using his worst affinity?Aura smoke is a lot more convenient than real smoke.
>>289432221>Nen is neccessarily invisibleisn't, my bad
>>289432221>>289432204Couldn't Pike see Pokkle's arrow even before he knew Nen?
>>289428826>average shounen reader
About Silent Majority, I think his goal is to activate Beyond’s curse. Coincidentally, he has not killed any Hunters, only bodyguards from Kakin. However, this would be a bit strange, as they would know enough to know about Beyond’s curse but not enough to know who the cursed children are. I mentioned that last point because of Babymina. I think he is an agent working for… someone, and his mission is to monitor the cursed children. At first, I thought he was one of the cursed children, but now that we know Furykov is cursed, I find it a little unlikely Babymina would also be cursed. There still needs to be a reason for his strange reaction to Kurapika and Longhi’s meeting, so I think he must be aware of Longhi’s situation already. I still don’t know what’s up with his relationship with Oito, though.
>>289396112Are ... are you sure you understand what he meant by that? He's not saying it will rebound if *any* prince dies. He's saying that if Benjamin dies and he himself then triggers the curse that *then* the curse (with no target, since Benjamin is technically dead at that point) will rebound, meaning the threat of it will be gone but Benjamin will, despite dying, still have won 'cause his GSB will kick in and turn him into a force ghost or whatever.
>>289432220What the hell do you crazy people consider this then?
>>289432237That was because high level chimera ants are abominations that were born from consuming so many humans that they had really high "life energy" makine them basically semi awakened. They didn't have their shoko points open but they could see and sense aura and nen users.
>>289432028Alluka is such a cute dork
>>289432237before he KNEW about nen, yes, but im pretty sure he was one of those ants that just was born having the nen pores open so he could see it, indeed
>>289432237Pike was also a mid-level ant so he may have just been unconciously awoken to nen. He did say that the fodder ants couldn't see the arrows.
>>289432042She offers a potential solution for Halkenburg, unless she's just a crazy girl larping.Halkenburg could occupy a body with no existing consciousness
>>289429065who are these people?
>>289432050He just said she's the strongest, not that she's a threat to himProbably some retarded unga boonga enhancer
>>289432269>He did say that the fodder ants couldn't see the arrows.Oh, good catch
>>289432270Someone making their body look like a doll/robot does seem like a nen restriction, if Franklin's self-mutilations are anything to go by
>>289432259He's conjuring smoke and blowing it through the pipe.
>>289432219We do, and I think he even says something about recharging. But he's a Transmuter, there's no reason for him to 'need' to recharge.
>>289432270>>289432276The remote robot theory is fun but what if she simply gave up on her humanity to strengthen herself? Would make sense on why she's the strongest
>>289432259I was on your side thinking it was a bad translation, but you don't blow out of a smoking pipe - you only breathe in through them. This actually does seem like evidence that it is transmuted aura to me.Also, pipes don't work underwater.
>>289432255>About Silent Majority, I think his goal is to activate Beyond’s curse.That would fit with the theory that Cleopatro is Silent Majority, since the real Cleopatra killed peopled with snakes
to be honest nen type discussions are kind of just arguing semantics. enhancement and transmutation are basically identical and there's nothing that says Morel can't enhance smoke to have properties that would normally be associated with transmutation. enhancers can change the property of objects even though that's the definition of transmutation as well.
>>289432198Yes me, transmuting your aura into X properties is basically the whole purpose of transmuters; I wouldn't be surprised if there's a sub-specialization that does the reverse process.But the restriction stuff you mention also fits so anyway.
>>289432295>there's no reason for him to 'need' to recharge.Clearly, there is based on what we've seen.
>>289432294>>289432295-_-;Stop thisHe is a manipulator You are making this stupid
>>289432316>enhancement and transmutation areThey are not.But enhancers and transmuters are close enough in the chart so they can mix and pull similar techniques.
>>289432316All nen is just transmutation:>Enhancementtransmuting your nen the property to enhance objects and abilities>Emissiontransmuting your nen to have long range>Conjurationtransmuting your nen to have the property of a physical object, being visible and corporeal>Manipulationtransmuting your nen to have the property of controlling things>Specializationtransmuting your nen to have special properties that don't fit in the other categories
If I was a transmutor could I transmute my aura into like a shadow clone?
>>289432295>>289432324What are you two retards doing?
>>289432295Oops wrong reply Killua is a transmuter got mixed up with morel
>>289432324How can Morel smoke underwater?
Guys hear me out. Halkenburg shot his arrow last chapter and they just forgot about it? I think what happened was that if halk inhabits the body himself and fires the arrow, a secondary ability is activated, it becomes a retrocausal arrow that kills the target but rewrites history to come up with a cause for the target’s future death (kind of like Senjumaru from Bleach). So furykov’s actions were retroactively influenced by the arrow because it already fits his personality and this is the path of least resistance the arrow found to rewriting reality.This would make it on par with and fit the theme of tserriednich’s bs abilities
>>289432328Sasuga BiskyNow jokes aside, transmutation is the worse nen type and the first that should receive a power upEmission, Manipularion and Specialization all were really leveled up this arcAnd enhancement and conjuration has been always strong
>>289432343Don't discard Togashi meme physics.Like a kid Gon opening a several tons gate.Maybe he just thought it was cool and physically possible without nen.
>>289432307>*sees Morel smoking underwater*>errr askullly pipes don't work underwater :^)
Morel is living proof that Wing was wrong and a retard btw
>first JJK>now BleachDude stop
>>289432347Some of the strongest nen users are transmuters like Hisoka, Killua, and Bisky, I think Togashi is just using this arc to put other nen categories on their level.
>>289432321It's a condition. Hisoka doesn't need to go through 20 packs of gum to use Bungee Gum.
>>289432343How can you unironically look at Morel smoking underwatwr and ask this?
>>289432374That's because transmutation is nicely between Enhancement and conjuration, giving you 80% of both worlds.But I mean as a pure transmuter, no dipping in other nen categories.Just 100% transmutation, it sucks... Or at least it should receive a power up / domain of application like the other categories.
>>289432255>There still needs to be a reason for his strange reaction to Kurapika and Longhi’s meetingIn the meeting Longhi explained that Beyond babies know zetsu from birth. Babimyna and Furykov have trained together for years as part of Benjamin's elite soldiers, so he likely knew that Furykov was born cabable of using nen.From that, Babimyna may have then realized that Furykov must be a Beyond bastard. He considered telling Furykov, but ultimately decided not to.Babimyna's motives are still unknown, but I think he's certainly not loyal to Benjamin.
Transmutation is just adding some weird property to your aura, so it doesn't surprise me that Togashi doesn't do much with it in isolation. There's only so many times you can do "my aura tastes like orange cream soda" before it gets boring.
>>289432347Transmutation is shit for combat because the user is still affected by their own transmuted nen. You have to do shit like conjure protective equipment to make it good. It's why the best transmuter we've seen doesn't use it for combat and relies on enhancement instead.
chrolo hit neon manga
>>289432381Because he's clearly conjuring it? Do you think HxH runs on Spongebob logic?
I could be totally wrong about this but I swear it's stated somewhere that Killua doesn't directly turn his aura into electricity, but rather gives his aura the ability to store and conduct electricity, which is why he needs to recharge it. Like his aura pool is essentially a battery that he uses to power his electricity abilities.
>>289432344He shot Luzurus. We got some hints towards this in 414.
>>289432377>next chapter shows Hisoka in his room with a comically large stack of chewing gun wrappers
>>289432291>>289432304could also be another creepy ability from beyond.what we've learned of him since suggests that he wouldn't leave any aspect of his plan unsupervised
>>289432270>my restriction? Living my whole life like a fucking robotNo wonder she's so strong
>>289428959Christ togashi just write a book at this point
>>289432367>deflection + no argumentsneed
>>289432400it's just that luzurus turns out to have 200 iq when he stops smoking pot
>>289432400I haven’t read it yet but even so the arrow can just make this chapter non-canon retroactively
>>289432398Your conjuring smoke out of a literal smoke pipe is SpongeBob nen logicYou are taking a simple concept and making it 10 times more stupid to fit some narrative I don't understand
>>289432383Babimyna wasn’t privy to the conversation between Kurapika and Longhi, though (at least at that time; I’m not sure if Kurapika ever told Babimyna or Zhang Lei’s guards about the Beyond situation).
>>289432431> Halkenberg first time in Luzurus body> It is high as fuck and tripping ballslmao
Morel's smoke is real. Proof is pic related.
>>289432328Sasuga Bisky-chama!
>>289432387enhancement is literally the only nen type that can be used in isolation. every other nen type outright requires you to dip into the others.transmutation itself is very powerful because you can convert aura into poisonous chemicals or put aura into the ground to create traps etc. but even then it requires some level of emission unless you're physically touching the object you wish to transmute.
>>289432428Im not arguing against someone who disregards what we see on a page with our own eyes
>>289428826>no wall of text deductive genius dialogue >doesn’t like complex thinking and planningIs this togashi’s first original character in 20 chapters
>>289432448Poison transmutation is shit because it would also poison the user. You'd need to combo it with either emission or conjuration, in which case you can achieve the same thing using just those. See Zeno, who adds transmutation to his dragons for no reason.
>>289432463>for no reason.It looks cool
>>289432448>every other nen type outright requires you to dip into the others.Not really thou.Emission -> Make an energy ball or teleport thingsConjuration -> Make an object that is constantly in contact with you or don't go too far away from the conjured objectManipulation -> My personal headcanon is that if you inject aura in a target it is self sustaining so you don't need emission The only offender is transmutation, if your is supposed to damage the opponent you need to push the aura away from your body.
>Morel's smoke is real but then enhanced with shu to change and strengthen its properties>Morel's smoke is conjured with the pipe as a condition, therefore explaining it not having the properties of normal smokeWell? Which is it?
>>289432481Can you use Shu on something insubstantial like smoke? Genuine question.
How this for transmutation hatsu?>Asbestos>The user makes their aura a near-perfect thermal insulator, allowing them to keep a comfortable body temperature even in extreme heat and cold.Combined with some conjuration:>Firestarter>The user can conjure flames that burn in any condition. These conjured flames can then spread to make real fire, though that real fire can still be put out and will eventually burn away.>Hellfire>The user can conjure a stream of extremely hot flames for a short time, up to 2000 kelvin, hot enough to deform steel.
>>289432499Reverse Feintan?Interesting.
>>289432495With enough training probably
>>289430627It's Togashi flexing on the "my guy has the power have all powers" clown mangakas.
>>289432481Does he also use shu on his pipe and enhance fire to burn underwater? If no, that means it's conjured.
>>289432499Surely you could just transmute your aura into fire and skip the conjuration altogether?You can transmute your aura into multiple different things; Hisoka's Texture Suprise is also transmutation, just a somewhat unorthodox transmutation.
>>289432470>emissiondoesn't actually make objects/energy balls. it allows you to propel things over long distances while maintaining aura density. you need conjuration to make the object.>conjurationyou need emission/manipulation to be able to control the object. or enhancement/manipulation to make the object autonomous. conjuration on its own just lets you make a brick wall basically.>manipulationyou need emission to be able to manipulate an object you aren't physically touching otherwise you have to do what the guy in 414 did and hold hands with your target to be able to manipulate it.
>>289432524>Surely you could just transmute your aura into fire and skip the conjuration altogether?That shit would burn you. It's useless.
>>289430627>with so many conditions to fullfill it should be 10 times stronger.It literally makes you invincible, that's probably as good as it gets for an ability that shuts down all incoming damage.
>>289432524Transmuted aura affects the user though, this is established multiple times. The only reason Killua can use his transmuted electricity hatsu is because he built up resistance to electric shocks from Zoldyck training.
Hisoka's texture surprise is conjuration. His stunt at the arena vs Kastro would not have worked otherwise.
>>289432461It's just togashi making fun of us, bit fuck it, I'm rooting for the Benny murderhobos anyway.
>>289432529>conjuration on its own just lets you make a brick wall basically.Source on this?SHizuku vacuum cleaner probably uses emission for the extra dimensional space, but I doubt it needs manipulation, it is a vaccum clearn.Any object that can be normally manipulated to execute its function should not need manipulation.
>>289432524>Hisoka's Texture Suprise is also transmutationI don't think that's explicitly stated anywhere. It could be conjuration, he still has 80% in conjuration after all, and it seems like sometimes he conjures playing cards, like during the Kastro fight.
>>289432541>>289432536>asbestos aura to protect from heat
>>289432554thats true, if you make an object you can manipulate by hand then thats fine too. like making a baseball bat or a cellphone or something.i just meant to say conjured objects are not inherently autonomous or controllable using nen unless you use another nen type to imbue them.
>>289432559>it seems like sometimes he conjures playing cardsI am certain that that is just a mundane magic trick, and he just does it to fuck with nen users who think there can only be a supernatural explaination for things.
I simply transmute my aura to have the effect of a powerful aphrodisiac and then enhance my genitals for maximum size, hardness, vigor, and semen production.
I'm conjured
>>289432567If a conjured nen beast acts independently it does not need manipulation. If you don't feed it aura after creation it doesn't need emission either.
>>289432559>>289432524Texture surprise is almost 99.9% confirmed conjuration.Conjuration seem to be the nen type that "creates" matter and "changes matter". We see examples of conjuration abilities that "create something" that seem to "modify the body".Which is a bit weird because in the water divination test the transmuters make the water sweet, so in a sense transmutation should be able to modify matter too.It would be a nice symmetry ifconjuration -> createtransmutation -> modifyBut for now that's just speculation and headcanon
>>289432377There was never an implication of that in the story for Hisoka yeah? It just came from a gum name that he used to eat as a child. Unlike Killua where he spent everything vs Youpi and had to recharge on screen and mentioned saving up his Kanmuru for Illumi when running away with Alluka after the car crash. He definitely needs recharging at his current power level, unlike Hisoka who just shits out Rubber Nen with no conditions.
>>289432586keep in mind that Nen beasts are not necessarily loyal/subordinate to the person who created them, unless you created them using manipulation to program in loyalty when it's created. so if you use Nen beasts it would be a mistake to not practice at least some manipulation to ensure your summon obeys you. though there are advantages to not doing so I suppose as taking on risk makes the nen beast stronger.
>>289432620What anon is saying that Killua doesn't "save electricity in his aura" or "in a weird super human organ".The condition of his ability to work is to electrocute himself.That's how he "recharge". The electricity is not stored physically anywhere.
When is togashi's troupe out sirs?
>>289432631>unless you created them using manipulation to program in loyalty when it's createdThis sounds like headcannon.The user use his imagination to conjure something, if you envision something loyal to you it will be loyal to you (with limitations that could be pushed by restrictions).I think manipulation only applies for "fine control".But oh well maybe I'm wrong.
>>289432524>>289432524>Surely you could just transmute your aura into fire and skip the conjuration altogether?You can give it the properties of fire, like Killua gives his aura the properties of electricity, but it won't be literal fireAlso, if you follow Kurapika and Killua's pattern you'd have to experience being on fire to be able to transmute it properly, and the aura would also roast you whenever it's active>Hisoka's Texture Suprise is also transmutationIt's conjuration
>>289428826>alamidullah. Martial law. Martial law.■What did he mean by this?
>>289432399>but rather gives his aura the ability to store and conduct electricityI really don't remember that. I'm not saying you're even wrong, but that doesn't sound familiar.
Meh, just go for light for your Transmutation Hatsu.Humans are always in contact with it, and lasers are cool.
>>289432728this dude's thumbnails are pure schizophrenia
>>289432728>The Hei-ly are killing more and more people on the lower tiers? I better keep my ass in tier 3, OR I'M FINISHED!!!
>>289432637 If someone mentions that something can run out then it implies that it is stored somewhere. It can be in the aura itself. Same thing with charging it back when that something has run out. I would like you to provide proof to your claim because I don't see any evidence to your interpretation at all.
>>289432735Being able to refract light would be cooler, because then you could make yourself invisible. Combine it with In, then nen users wouldn't even be able to see you unless they use Gyo.
>>289432728
>>289432767>top 5 Hunter X Hunter mysteries
>>289432755The issue is that 'storing' electricity seems counterintuitive when other Transmuters don't have to do anything like that, as far as we know. Gon doesn't have to store sharpness to use Scissors.
>Overseer has a huge EN around the ship which is on at all time to see if they leave the succession war.>The overseer couldn't use his EN to check to see if all the people that took part in the initial ritual are actually there before starting>And if wobble is outside then the whole ritual could be at risk which is hundreds of years old just by this simple oversight and can fuck over the whole kakin empireSounds absolutely retarded.
>>289432764That's Manipulation.
>>289431483we still haven't been introduced to Nasubi's faction, his guards and their abilities, Nigg, Pariston, the rest of Beyond's team, Beyond's kids, the people's rebellion faction, the rest of Ben's Guards and their abilities, the queens' nen abilities, and who the fuck the jelly fish nen beasts belong to.
See? Transmuter is the shitiest nen type
>>289432755>If someone mentions that something can run out then it implies that it is stored somewhere.I can design a hatsu that says.- I will perform pushups.- For every 10 pushups there is 1 trick point.- For every trick point I will receive a bonus in my aura attack.- I can accumulate a max of 10 trick points- If I go into Zetsu I lose all my trick points.The trick points are not real nor accumulated anywhere, are just a part of a restriction and a vow that make a technique.Is no different than Gon forcing himself to say Jan Ken Pon.
>>289432782If the light itself is being manipulated, then yeah. But if the aura is transmuted to have light-refracting properties, then it's transmutation.
>>289431990-ACK
>>289432794What about conjuring an orb that receives and accumulates light and when enough energy is accumulated it can fire a blinding flash or aura light beams
>>289432767He conjures the milk.
>>289432788Killua can speedblitz even a royal guard with it (+some Manipulation). And that is really fucking strong.
>>289432788>t. would job to hisoka
>>289432776Escaping the site while it's ongoing will turn out to actually be a valid win condition. You simply had to be there to sign up but where you are during if you manage to bypass the kill ghosts is irrelevant. Woble's win is guaranteed.
>>2894327761. The baby is in the boat2. Nothing is true until proven otherwise, including Kurapika's assumptions
>>289432811Of course, it was so simple
>>289432824It makes sense too. He's the cow zodiac and a conjurer, so he learned to conjure milk as a party trick.
>>289432728But will "it" be countered by "that" man?
>>289432788Killua needs the superhuman feat of being resistant to electricity in order to pull his trick.I explicitly stated, Transmutation is shit by itself, you need to be cheeky and dip into other nen categories like feitan conjuring a heat resistant armor or have a superhuman feat like killua electricity immunity.If not is shit. I mean yeah bungee gum is cool, but there can only be 1 bungee gum.Transmutation needs something nice similar to emission relationship with teleportation.
>>289432140but Netero is using an emitted nen beast
>>289432840It should have gotten transformation, but conjuration got that instead.
>>289430959my main nigga Big Balls Bill
>>289428811>>289428826>wearing a t-shirt 1st page>when he gets down from the bed he has the down jacket with long sleeves>except in the panel where he stabs the other dude through a pillowthe fuck???
Transmutation as a stand alone category is definitely the worst for an average joe blow to get. Your best generic offensive option would be>I can make my aura very sharpto then just btfo'd by a pure enhancer at an equal level to you.
>>289432874Maybe he rolled his sleeves for the kill
>>289432774Sharpness is a much simpler property than actual electricity or lightning, so there's no need to imbue nen with it through outside forces.>>289432790Again I will need in-source-material proof to your interpretation of Killua's power. Fact of the matter is I don't think there are any moments where it is shown that charging up is performative in the way you described.
>>289432135she'll be Tserri's most loyal honest bitch
>>289432883Nope, that shit would stab you. Solo transmutation is useless. Transmutation was made to for the sake of Bungee Gum and nothing else.
>>289432774I hate how modern analysis wiki community's has destroyed hxh people's minds so now every ability is some psudo-pointer meta crap>Potclean no longer acts like a bank for aura, it just counts aura now>killua no longer holds an electric charge, him recharging is just a condition>Morel no longer smokes from his pipe, the pipe is just a medium like a magic wandDreadful, lifeless interpretations
>>289432901Gon uses sharp aura without any ill effect to himself
>>289432874You see him putting on his boots and can't imagine he also put on a jacket?
>>289432891Bro it's simple logic. For Killua to store and use real electricity he would have to be a manipulator. Transmutation doesn't work like that.
>>289432883I will prove all the haters wrong
>>289432913Humans can hold an electric charge anon
>>289432902That's the opposite of wikishit. The wikitards argue the common sense solution is wrong because it doesn't fit their made up spreadsheets and databooks. All these things being conditions has been already implied.
>>289432934Im literally listing wiki shit arguments
>>289432933So you're going with the battery organ theory? Or is Killua enhancing his body's ability to store electricity? Or is he conjuring a battery up his ass?
>>289432347>>289432382transmutation has R U B B E R & G U M. it doesn't need a power up
>>289432942Bro Morel does not ever smoke from his pipe. Read the damn manga. He never once lights it.
>>289432945No, humans can hold an electric charge, like in real life, you can hold enough in you for a visible static discharge
What if Morel used smoke with hallucinogenic properties?
>>289432979Can they also absorb electricity from sockets and fire it from their fingers?
>>289432399>>289432729piggybacking on this. why does he charge? does he need it or just faster?
>>289432957>t- has never smoked from a pipe before A small correctly packed pipe can burn without lighting for an hour
>>289432995Killua can because he is sugoi, yeah. What's the problem?
>>289433003It's a condition. It makes his ability stronger.
>>289429987where did he stab him? the eye?
>>289433016Do you also smoke your cigarettes underwater?
>>289433003He runs out and needs to charge himself up like a battery.Overtime as he masters it with decades of experience Killua might arrive at a level where he can auto accumulate it at a slow pace with no electricity needed I imagine. 1 in 10 mil and all, but for now it's clearly not an option.
>>289432840>bungee gum is coolHisoka overpowers his enemies so he dips into enhancement
>>289432995Yes>>289433074Im real life no, but Morel can in the manga
>>289432138>It looked like a fem Cheetu with Zazan's titsthis is my hatsu
>>289432883Sharp aura sounds boring because of how basic it is but it doesn't seem like a bad combat ability, and transmuters benefit from having decent affinity with enhancementIMO conjuration has both the lowest lows and highest highs, and both conjuration and manipulation get fucked over from having specialization in between them, meaning they have only one category directly adjacent to each other that they actually benefit from
>>289433521Also, enhancer is the best category in terms of type efficiencies because it's opposite to specialization
>>289431171Talent is 90% of what determines how strong a nen user will be.
>>289429987I think he let himself get caught to say it was self defense and start shit in luzurus room
>>289428826>BossWhy did anyone waste their time MTL Arabfag's MTL when we have an actual good translation? >>289414857
I have the feeling and the hope that this arc is the ultimate climax of HxH. Gon and killua now being officially involved makes it much more probable. Just think about it. They definitely have a chance of being transported to the Black Whale as well, if Woble is not on the ship. This would be the process: they find Woble at the same time as one of the princes, but Woble gets taken first by that prince to the boat and they follow them to the boat. The chances are bit lower, if Woble is already on the boat. The chances are very slim, if the whole Woble matter is solved outside of the Black Whale. But for me personally I would be much more interesting, if my prediction comes true. In this case, we have every major HxH faction on this boat, besides the ants and gyro, which just screams climax. Gyro could still also be involved anyway, because why not. The chances of the troupe getting annihilated makes it also very realistic to involve Gon and killua now, so Togashi can finish up all the plot threads (Gon vs Hisoka, Killiua vs Illumi). Gon having no Nen makes it a bit less probable though, but we don't know how this will even play out.
>>289428839Roy mentioned again
