Why is every car in anime 3D now?
because you touch yourself to the thought of gross cats at night
>>289435552Don't look up real cars
>>289435552Also every horse, every background character in a crowd of people, and every building that is more complex than a box. Can you deduce why's that?
>>289435787>horseHorse mafia obviously.
Dont worry soon they will be AI instead
>>289435552Nobody learns how to animate cars anymore.
>>289435552>>289435787Animation time, budget, and skill.Digital is just cheaper and less time consuming. Background characters were always cheaply done they just used to use the technique of cardboard shadow people.
>why does this mass produced garbage look like mass produced garbage
It would be kind of hard to drive inside of a 2D car.
>>289435880I could do it in GTA 2
>>289435919Ah, so the key is to animate everything from a top down view.
>>289435552>now
>>289435552>nowAlmost been 20 years now.
>>289435552Because you can pay a small fee for a pre-baked model of the car
>>289435552because animes are products not works of art
the entire process of "animating" a car is making sure that the rigid box keeps its shape in rigid space, so why not offload that busywork to a computer?
>>289435552Because you don't buy Bluray sets and merch.
>>289437102In this economy?
>>289435552Because most studios are lazy and inept these days. Drawing is beyond their capacity.
>>289436823>so why not offload that busywork to a computer?Because 3dcg looks like shit compared to 2D.
>>289438475The government should do something about it.
>>289435802It's crazy that they aren't AI already. If these turds can't draw them, then they should at least use AI and not 3dshit. That way they will be 2D, the way anime should be.
>>289438560That's been my thinking for years. The Japanese government should protect anime more. Look how Attack on Titan was massively popular and a global icon and yet CRAPPA pissed all over that by making the foreground titans 3DCG and ruining it with the final season. There have been many cases like this. Japan need to protect their 2D culture more zealously since wetsern subhumans certainly wont. Just look at how popular trash like CSM is with western ingrates.
>>289435552>Why is every car in anime 3D now?Because they need to waste their budget somewhere. Might as well waste it on useless shit for no good reason.
>>289438693They should send those lazy faggots to anime labor camps
>>289435787>Also every horse, every background character in a crowd of people, and every building that is more complex than a box.Anime is shit these days. I miss 2D mecha, it's very rare now compared to when I first started watching anime. OP should go and watch some Kyoani stuff to cleanse his soul. Kyoani still do 2D cars, 2D dance sequences, 2D horses, 2D crowds and every other 2D thing that isn't done anyone because it's difficult and requires talent. Hyouka and Evergarden had 2D crowds, Kyokai no Kanata had 2D dance sequences, Maid Dragon has almost 100% 2D buildings.
>>289438615>He's still baiting with this
Death of the medium 20 years ago
>>289435552why are you 3D?
>>289438555Backing your post up with a multi-year overdue flop that nearly tanked the studio.
>>289439066There's no bait. Can you explain how it's supposedly bait? You're just trolling or mentally ill. AI has issues, but it improves at a staggering pace. You can get AI to generate cars for still frames at the very least. You can do that TODAY. And then just have an artist clean up any errors and there won't be many of those if you're using a good model. I fucking hate 3dcg and how it clashes with the real 2d art in anime. AI can be 2D so it will blend seamlessly. We know AI can mimic the style of anything you train it on. It can mimic official art.
>>289439057that's not a 2d drawing. it's 3d, but done well
>>289435552It’s extremely efficient time wise and comparatively easier to 2d/3d composite for rigid objects like vehicles. Unless you’re planning to do a lot of squash and stretch with a vehicle for comedic or kinetic effect it makes sense.>>289435787On the other hand, horses are sadly a terrible choice for 3d and always look like ass, but very few people know how to draw them well anymore so that’s all we’re left with. Of course the same reasons that makes them hard to draw make it less likely most in the audience will notice problems with them. If a show hand draws their horses or mechanical design you know they’re really trying.
because anime has been animated in the cheapest non-air conditioned offices in Vietnam and china since at least 2009 when the studios left South Korea because they got too expensive.read the end credits of your faboriter anime and note how many nyugens and trangs you see.
>>289439607>imbecille humiliated himselfIt's 2D you blind retard. Watch more anime.
anyone have the webm of that car that is going up a hill and when it reaches the top it like makes a unconvincing jump over the hill and then it cuts to the interior of some anime girl being jostled around by the jump
I love Railgun but it has lots of 3Dshit. They should do the next season with AI since JC Staff are lazy subhumans. Even Utena had fucking corner cutting shit in it.
>>289438981We need to send 3dshit animators to gulags.
>>289438693It's not a terrible idea in theory, money made from foreigners buying your digital products is basically just free money, just like with tourism. In fact it's better than tourism since you don't have to deal with tourists.
>>289438615AI rendering will still be superimposed over 3D models.>>289439668It's obviously based on a 3D model, the window highlights are possibly added by hand. Even if you couldn't tell that the bus is a 3D model from how it moves (which is blatant, if you've seen as much animation as you suggest) the window transparency is a major tell. Hand drawn vehicles rarely, if ever had that level of detail.
>>289435787It makes me angry when the scene includes a jarring cgi element that was completely unnecessary to animate. I would prefer panning across a still image of soldiers rather than a cgi'd army all making the identical "swing sword, step back, wobble, swing sword" loop.
>>289440094Someone been watching too much kingdom
>>289440050Looks like it’s fully redrawn in 2d over a 3d reference model/animation IMO.
>>289439676not me
>>289440094maybe you should stop watching isekai garbage then
>>289441828not him. the 3dshit is everywhere, not just in isekai
>>289435552Cars are 3d in real life as well
>>289439057I wish the cars in Full Metal Panic IV looked this good
>>289439676Yes
Full CG series are now genuinely superior to 2D digital animation. There is a growing talent base with innovative techniques for rigging, animation and timing. Meanwhile 2D animators are being outsourced, replaced, and dying. The vast majority of "drawn" anime look like complete garbage now. Of course, 3DCG will always look bad when it's poorly implemented in an otherwise illustrated work. But when it's visually consistent with the rest of the setting, spaces and scenery rendered with the same lighting and framerate and fidelity, you can capitalize on the medium and make it look great. Oldfags, contrarians and people with shit taste will continue to close their eyes and plug their ears and seethe and pretend nothing has changed for decades. All while anime that would never see the light of day under traditional 2D restrictions gets lovingly produced.
>>289435552Because Toshiharu Murata died
>>289443543Your choice of webm isn't convincing anyoneAll the talent for 3D is in video games cause it pays 5x more than an anime studio ever could
>>289443447id take this over 3dcg any day
>>289443614Pearls before swine. That is a true problem thougeverbeit. Bit of a blessing and a curse in that it pioneers talent and techniques but also hoards it. The imminent gaming industry crash will usher a new golden age for CG anime
>>289443447Cop Craft was pure low budget kinothe slide show during the climactic final fight was a masterpiece in what you can produce on a budget of two cup ramens
>>289443774>The imminent gaming industry crash will usher a new golden age for CG animeAnon, if it croaks Japanese vidya will only prosper more.They're already getting filthy rich with Yen's value circling down the drain... they sell their shit globally and pay their workforce/licenses/bills in yen so they're making off like bandits.Oh, and don't forget they raised the prices to 80+ in tune with your typical California-housed 1000 man gigacorporate despite being small office spaces of 20-30 underpaid fucks strung around Osaka.
>>289435552>>289435787Money. Money is always the reason.
>>289435552They're rigid objects with minimal animated parts that for the most part are more props and stages than interactable objects. Sometimes you'll have the budget to rotoscope your models to make them feel more animated, but even for a high budget production, having a 3D model is a great base for vehicle interior scenes, so you can maintain consistency through every shot. There's some soul that comes with hand animating, but if you don't have the manhours to do it right, it ends up looking, well...
>>289435552We have lost the technology that enables us to draw cars.>inb4 prove itDraw a car right now. You can't.
>>289439668kyoani used 3D. but it used it sparingly and wellnewfriend
>>289443543>>289443774the fuck is this MMD tier trash
>>289439668you can even see the 3D model drifting in 2 sequential framesit's a 3D model that was drawn over and superimposed over the 2D background
>>289444082>newfagThey use it, yes. But less than other studios which is why they're the best.
>>289443543That is fucking eye cancer.
>>289435552It's cheap.
>>289435787>>289435552>old anime that did all these things in full 2D>unless the budget was in the stratosphere the animation was total ass because complex shit's expensive to drawI forget the name of the show and I can't find the webm, but surely you're aware of that infamous van scene.
>>289443956There, that's the webm I was looking for. It's kind of ironic how well animated the scene around 0:06 is versus the entire rest of the sequence.
>>289435861All this time and budget saving compared to traditional animation and yet it's all far worse. Why is that?
>>289439397Still looks good though.
>>289438693CSM>>>SnK
>>289438555This design made no sense, why would you disguise a trike as a car?
>>289447020I came into this thread specifically to post it.
>>289443543It's not really surprising that 3DCG can be done well, given that video game cutscenes have been utterly shitting on the kind of bad 3DCG you typically see in anime for a very long time, even real-time rendered stuff on regular PCs or consoles. I get it that they're using 3DCG as a cost-cutting measure but it's truly baffling how bad and ugly it is when you can pick up some 3D JRPG almost at random and it's going to look better than the prerendered shit they put in shows.This makes it clear to me that the bad 3DCG is the result of cost cutting to the absolute extreme, there's no way it's anything else.
>>289444981i think the bigger tell is the text in the license plate and destination. those plainly couldn't be human drawn with that precisionmovement of the type you show is a registration error. must be human error because they were using digital pipelines by this point
>shortcuts in the 90sclever, efficient and still 2d>shortcuts in anime nowjust 3d it
>>289443774>>289443543
>>289443543>>289443447Thanks for reminding me Cop Craft exists. Time for a rewatch.
>>289447259trikes are cheaper on taxes than cars but the hoes will make fun of you if you pull up to the party on one
>>289447375>This makes it clear to me that the bad 3DCG is the result of cost cutting to the absolute extreme, there's no way it's anything else.Sometimes they make it bad on purpose and say its a stylistic choice.
>>289443956charming bit of animation desu
>>289443543Jesus fucking christ this shit looks hideous
>>289443956SOVL
>>289435552It's a lot easier to animate.
>>289435552Because it's cheaper and less time consuming than drawing it by hand, and because there are less animators who are skilled at hand-drawing mechanical objects because it's cheaper and less time consuming to use a 3d model, so no one develops the skills to do so.
I could have saved you
>>289435552>>289435787They're asset flips if you want the actual answer.They buy banks of stuff like car models, or faceless crowd models, and then they shove those assets in all of their anime.
>>289452162Kemono Friends is proof that 3D can be soulful
>>289443543Your webm can't even execute on the most basics of limited animation's movement. Everything herk and jerks.
>>289452478And that is why it had to be killed
>>289452416Asset flips would imply all of an anime was nothing but those stock things, they still have to make all stuff that isn't the background filler.
>>289435552Use of externally bought assets can save a production time and money, giving it the flexibility to focus on more important parts of the story they want to tell.
In the future all manga will be like Kengan Omega.
i liked Houseki no Kuni
>>289454990yeah, but it's despite the 3D, i liked it too because the story and characters were good. Then i saw the little 2D thing they made.
>>289455461rip whoever drew this because you know theres no way theyre still alive right
>>289455602You're not making a funny comment, that's rather in poor taste
>>289455632youre right. i apologize for making this place worse than it already was
>>289455632What's wrong with his post?>>289455602No you're alright. If you look up who animated it on Sakugabooru you'll be able to check
>>289435552There's 2D cars in KyoAni's latest.
>>289439557>AI can do thingsmay we see it?>NOFake and gay.
>>28943966090% Japanese and like 10% foreigners? t's genuinely part endearing, part pathetic that you Gookshills/Chinkshills are desperately keep pushing this narrative.Gooks and Chinks are like (somehow) 2 steps below the Japs (Who are already subhuman tier) at being human and i guess that also apply to the fanbase
>>289435787>>289435792Also people mafia and building mafia
It's a non changing physical moving object that doesn't benefit from being drawn multiple times in 2d, but does benefit from time, cost and labor saved when you have the 3d asset in a computer which can be reused later if necessary.
>>289435552hand-drawn cars are lost technology for the public, only artisans from privileged clans know how to draw them
>>289435787>>289435552old anime used stilldothers are cg because they are easy yo correct
>>289457355In other words, it's gatekeeping so it's... good?
>>289435552It's hard to draw them proportionally correct.Even when my mangaka asked me to draw some cars, I'd just trace the basic shapes from 3D models and manually add detail later.Much faster this way than to draw from scratch.They aren't that important anyway.
>>289435552Modern artists can't compete with the OVA car porn from the 90's. So they don't even try.
>>289439684The 3D helicopters in Index III were some of the shittiest shit I've ever seen and JC Staff should feel really bad about that.
>>289447069>Why is that?because it's a trade-off. animation is unbelievably expensive and time consuming but there is a huge market for it. what you are seeing is economics, not technology, skill, or creative vision.
>>289435552the japanese lost the technology to draw cars
>>289435552Budget
