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>>289518446
It's not a chud anime because one of it's main messages is that racism and prejudice are bad.

male feminist outrage thread number #8187746

>>289518446
If he just chose one it would be better.

Look if you were fat your whole old life and it negatively impacted you you would absolutely work towards not being fat.
>>289518595
Where is he?

>>289518446
seethe more faggot.

>>289518446
>deprived fat jap neet pedophile gets reingarnated as a handsome white prodigy and gets all the bitches
ftfy, even worse, more nukes must be dropped

>>289518660
Faggot is too kindly. He is sheep. He is cattle.

>>289518627
Why does that make you seethe? Chad men regularly get multiple bitches.

>>289518446
Reincarnated in another world as Epstein

>>289518595
Actually it's pretty much the opposite, it's literally chud's favorite fantasy of saving the savages from themselves while giving lessons about how you inferior mongoloids will never be as good.

Why are people that hate Japan allowed to post on /a/? they're never going to intellectually engage with the medium of anime and manga

Every story that's not pure misery porn is vulnerable to facile accusations of "wish fulfillment." Even if the main protagonist ends up miserable and never finds love, the accusation can just shift to a deuteragonist.
The quality of a story isn't diminished because a bunch of rotten scolds and misery-mongers sneer at it.

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So uh...

What do the "rotten scolds and misery-mongers", or as I call them, cattle, or as I REALLY call them, word-that-jannies-are-obsessed-with-banning-people-for, sat about Orc Eroica?

>>289518774
I cannot deny, some people do not know how to balance their SUFFERING SUFFERING. They think the slightest bit of comfort creates an unquestioned Mary Sue because some quiz on the Internet told them so.

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>>289518703
None are loyal

Polygamous men are low.
They receive the same kinds of women

Loyal men gets loyal wife

is pedophelia really just sour grapes?

>>289519194
Rick and Morty reference? Wow, based! Wubbalubba dub dub!

>>289519242
Seething about le cartoon pedos on /a/ because any and all displays of heterosexuality are effectively illegal in the west? yes that is sour grapes

You know the worst part of all this?

This will be all what Mukoten threads are. Trannies only give a shit about the prologue and crap regurgitated on HRTiktok & Instatran. No one is ever going to talk about how it's neat how the magic system has lightning extend from water, or the fates of other characters who come and go like Rudjerd, or the theoretical work that Mukoten was made as a prequel for.

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>harem anime goes the polygamous route
>"Man this anime is wish fulfillment bullshit!"
>harem anime doesn't end with polygamy
>"Man why is the MC such a pussy!"

>>289519194
Oh so you're just jealous and coping. The multiple wives triggers you because it reminds you of Chad, which you can't relate with because you view yourself as inferior, perhaps correctly.

>>289519361
Eww

>>289518720
That's a liberal fantasy.

>>289519343
So the solution is just to leave the readers hanging like TLR does? BTW Rito is too much of a Haruna-fag to be a self-insert character. He's also much cuter than the typical self-insert protag.

>>289519475
No the solution is to just do what MT does because it is an international commercial success despite the fatwas

>>289518446
Exploit in what way?

>>289518446
>reingarnated

>>289519343
speaking of, was Tenjoin getting booted from the harem a good or bad idea? Actually, was she ever a part of it?

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>>289519491
TLR is a bigger success than MT ever could be
It's been running since early 2000's and still relevant today

It's the Naruto of Harem

>>289519576
where's that darkness sequel then

>>289519545
Mixed feelings because I love drill-hair oujos, but she doesn't have to be a Rito-kun orbiter.
By the way, Rito and kid Rudy are both really cute, yet get a lot of hate. Cute aggression?

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>>289519576
that post was more of an indictment of the moral crusades spammed on /a/, not of mushoku tensei's quality over TLR

>>289519644
The principal approves.

>>289519613
That does bring something up... what makes a harem protagonist charming to a female audience who actually sticks around to enjoy the craft? I know TLR has a lot of girls who self-insert as the... well... girls while Rito does things to them.

>>289519343
Didn't TLRD literally end with Haruna and Lala talking turns dating Rito because he still couldn't make a decision of whether he just wanted to be with Haruna or pursue Polygamy?

>>289519576
Mushoku Tensei is literally the father of modern isekai and what inspired the entire isekai genre boom, but of course a secondary weeaboo like you would not know.

>>289520058
*Taking turns

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>>289518446
>Noooo You can't critique Generic Incelkai #00001
I can, because you want to sell it to me as the best thing ever since the Genesis. And it really isn't. Enjoy it, I don't care, but stop creating a thousands threads, when this shit isn't even Code Geass Levels. Enjoy your NICHE.
>B-but Rudy changed me
You can't even take a different opinion outside your safe bubble. You still seem to me like an over sensible no guts faggot, you changed nothing.

>>289520182
Code geass is not good. Jobless Reincarnation is exceptional.

I feel like there is a massive filter with appreciating Jobless Reincarnation fully. Like it requires a certain level of critical, unbiased thinking. And if you lack that you simply just aren't going to get it.

>>289520241
Rather than a suggestion that it requires a level of enlightenment, I think normalfags just became more stupid!

>>289520325
No, normies like Jobless Reincarnation. But I don't think they fully get it. Neither do you, obviously. You may be autistic and not a normie but you lack critical, unbiased thinking. Which is why you don't really get it either.

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>Anon so annoyed by the critique he starts to talk like a spiteful girl
Changed
Nothing

>>289520452
>watching pokemon
How old are you.

>>289520073
You mean the genre born in 2015's?
To Love Ru overthrew Love Hina in terms of influence to the harem genre

>>289520058
No.
Author just put it on hiatus to make other projects

One of the reasons China is taking over the industry is because the japs are keep pushing depravity

I wish I never had to see threads about this slop ever again. It's so fucking annoying, they can't just keep it to one. Ridding /a/ of these threads forever would be a net positive.

>>289521324
That is quite false. China hasn't truly caught up BECAUSE they are nerfed by censorship! Koreans have a lesser degree of it so they have more potential.

>>289521362
if HRTiktok and Instatran were destroyed surely the quality of these threads would improve.

>>289521394
Discord is the real issue

>>289518446
Do you faggots ever get rid of making the same thread over and over?

>>289518446
The message is actually to be a soulless wagie and have sex, just like 99% of anime. Americans deluded themselves into thinking it's something more.

>>289521507
The main threads of MT are usually circlejerks of the highest order. it's near impossible to criticize it without making another thread.

>>289521581
Do they at least promote the discussion of topics outside the prologue and normalfag cattle regurgitations, such as worldbuilding, the wide range of other characters that got on the metaphorical bus, the magic system and tangentially related works like Orc Eroica?

>>289518626
Honestly I'm always wondering where society did go so wrong and started to produce so many idiots and faggots for the newer generations.

>>289521978
Why do "we" need to promote shit? this ain't reddit, if you want a civil controlled discussion go somewhere else.

>>289522032
It's mostly due to over-socialization in the schools combined with under-socialization outside school. When people's only social experience is a pathological, prison-like environment, they turn out life-long sniveling bitches.

>>289522032
>>289522118
Mad because someone called a character you like a pedo

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>>289518446
not all of them

>>289518446
This already had quite a following before the term “chud” had even been coined. I remember looking for new LNs back around 2014 and there was a ton of MT discussion on forums as the LN serialization was starting, it was probably the isekai I saw with the most amount of people wanting to see it adapted back then, I’m surprised it happened honestly since it took so long

>>289518703
Chads aren’t mentally unstable bitches that can’t get over past neet traumas even after their lives are fixed

>>289521581
>criticize
it's just moralfag whining tho

>>289524050
You consider calling Rudeus out for being a bad character as moralfagging.

>>289518446
>ITT: Anon feels called out

>>289524064
>>289524109
"calling out" isn't an argument, it's just a moral value judgement of denunciation. your moral values not being represented in art is not a flaw.

>>289524122
Yeah, but Rudeusfags can't seem to understand that being a piece of shit isn't a likeable character trait. The only beloved characters that are pieces of shit are ones that constant;y get fucked over for it or so over the top and openly revel in being a piece of shit you can't help but love them, like Rance.

Rudeus is a piece of shit, says he realizes he's a piece of shit, and then the entire world pats him on the back for it and the writer acts like you're a bad person for not taking his word for it, that's not how life works.

>>289524122
>

>>289524179
Oh wow it's almost like that's the entire point!
If you think rudeus being bad is a criticism you arel more retarded than i thought

>>289524179
Rance is a porn game protagoist who conquers the world and finds girls stuck in walls and rapes them, he doesn't ever get karmic justice for the sake of appeasing some moralistic virtue signal. only for comedy. Why would you use this example in specific for this type of argument? Seems like total larp. Just go watch western media and stop whining about Japanese art.

>>289524208
The entire point is that world should suddenly bend over for people just because they say they've changed?
And don't answer that, because I know that's the point, the writer said that was the point, it's just that it's a stupid message. It reads to me like he was tired of people shitting on him for being a dick so he makes himself out to be a victim. If you truly want to change, and get angry that people don't believe you, then you really haven't changed, you don't deserve the sympathy.

>>289524243
Mt is literally his biography, it's supossed to be a simulacra of a real life just with fantasy elements,and like real life it isn't always perfect, at no point does he become perfect and that's the point.

>>289524229
The point was that Rance was never about that in the first place. The writer expects you to feel bad for Rudeus. Rance works because he's proud of being an evil rapist asshole, that's so over the top it comes off as comical. Rudeus is a an asshole that plays the victim about it and the writer acts like your a bad person for not liking him.

>>289524267
Rance rapes girls so the viewer can see a girl getting raped and masturbate to it. stop moralfagging.

>>289524258
Where the fuck did I say I expect him to be perfect?

>>289524282
You expect him to fully change. And I'm telling you he never does that in the way you want.

>>289524267
You are a moral hypochondriac. On what basis do you say Rudeus is an asshole? He's humble, polite and helps out when he can. He's good to his friends and doesn't go out of his way to make enemies. What you can never admit is that this is just some male feminist monomania about his sexual foibles.

>>289524281
Nobody would like Rance if he didn't act the way he did. He was a classic meme icon for this website due to his dialogue and charisma. You must be too young to know about this.

>>289524296
I don't, why do you keep pretending I do? I'm saying he shouldn't act like a victim about shit he himself did, and the writer shouldn't expect you to pity him for it. The whole "poor me" act is pathetic.

>>289524318
and? what is your argument here? that's a complete non-sequitur to anything said before this post.

>>289524335
You're acting like people played Rance's games just for the porn, and his character was never beloved on 4chan.

>>289524349
No that was just your reading comprehension because you're mentally ill and retarded.

>>289524374
Why are you so angry?

>>289524398
Because you're spamming the board with asinine posts.

>>289524410
>Having a discussion is spamming
Go to bed son

>>289524317
Everything about his original life
The slavery
Gets a member of his family killed for being a retard
Sun God Kaito
Gets mad at member of his family for thinking cheating is wrong
Gives someone that literally raped one of his children a slap on the wrist

>It actually worked
No fucking way, they were botting.

>>289524389
>Everything about his original life
He was severely traumatized due to abuse and sexual humiliation, which came about from his impulse to stand up for other people and himself. His original parents were really not that great. He needed professional psychiatric help and counseling from a specialist in PTSD. Instead, they were like "be stronk" and left him to rot. He fell quite low, but in the end, in his last moments of life, he threw himself in front of a speeding truck to save others. Rudy is very hard on himself for his past life, and it's really not intended for the reader to take his perspective about it at face value and be so unsympathetic. He was undoubtedly scummy, but there were extenuating circumstances.
I don't have time for the rest of the laundry list, but it's all bad faith anyway. Rudy is hated not for any of that shit but for being a heterosexual man with a libido and having an unfiltered internal monologue, which the NPC haters could never understand.

Please keep your slop discussions within the isekai containment thread.

>>289524539
>He was severely traumatized due to abuse and sexual humiliation
So makes what he did okay?
>Rudy is very hard on himself for his past life
That's what makes him so annoying. The reader wants you to think he's a super good misunderstood soul. That doesn't get me to like a character.
>I don't have time for the rest of the laundry list, but it's all bad faith anyway
How convenient, the part about his past life was the least of issues, I listed them from the least they pissed me off to the worst.
>Rudy is hated not for any of that shit but for being a heterosexual man with a libido
In your schizo mind, maybe. Post the MAL screenshot you love spamming so much.

>>289524571
>was the least of issues
The least of my issues

>>289524571
I dont even have a mal lol

This is a chud-ass show but I still like it. It's good slop

>>289524602
Either way, are you an anime only? I can't continue this discussion if you're aren't. The anime, and the more recent LNs have been scrubbing him clean of any wrongdoings through lack of info and retcons.

Also if you're that one muslim larper from a previous thread I don't want to continue either.

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>unironically going back and forth with this retard
You guys are just as fucking retarded if not more so than OP.

>>289524571
>>He was severely traumatized due to abuse and sexual humiliation
>So makes what he did okay?
This is not an exegesis on moral philosophy, it's a discussion of whether a fictional character is a likeable-enough protagonist. I agree that the way the story is written, you're not supposed to hate Rudeus. If he's totally detestable, that would be a flaw in the story. He doesn't have to be a moral exemplar to not be detestable.
His likeability derives more from his "sense of life" (his adventurousness, curiosity, playfulness, and desire to live life to the fullest) not from being the perfect icon of a hero. In the anime, the VA for his old/internal self does a good job of making him likeable starting from the "(chuckle) Magic! That's a word that would get even a monkey excited!" in the very beginning.

>>289524637
>In the anime, the VA for his old/internal self does a good job of making him likeable starting from the "(chuckle) Magic! That's a word that would get even a monkey excited!" in the very beginning
Yeah, and the anime is shit because it removed all of the worst stuff he did. Most people even posting on this board probably just think he's a NEET loser and that's it.

>>289524633
Yeah, I'm a retard because I don't like your awful husbando

>>289524663
ah, the ultimate gotcha: the part from the web novel about him taking creep-shots of his niece in the bath that none of the people citing ever read and that's not part of the Anime or LN canon. It's retarded equivocation to cite a different version of the character. If you really wanted to make the discussion about the web novel, I would still maintain essentially the same view with the concession that it's more of a redemption story because he was much worse in the past in that version.

>>289524735
I never said that was the only thing he did, but sure.

>and that's not part of the Anime or LN canon
It existed in both of them, it was just more vague. He says something like "uncensored 3D lolicon" or some such.

> I would still maintain essentially the same view with the concession that it's more of a redemption story because he was much worse in the past in that version

Most Rudeusfags say it ISN'T supposed to be a redemption story though.

>But muh the niece thing
This is what has op and retads like him worked up?!

>>289524791
Most people are defending the version of the story that they have watched. It's only antis grasping at straws who reach for a version that they never read.

>>289524819
>Most people are defending the version of the story that they have watched
Yeah, the censored anime.
And it was still in the anime, just censored.
The LN heavily implies it, especially with the "uncensored" part. You're not getting uncensored porn in Japan unless you take it yourself, and because he's a NEET that must mean it had to have been a girl in his own family.

>>289524803
You got to admit, it's a pretty unexpected backstory for a main character.

>>289524841
Illegal in Japan or not, there's a fair amount of uncensored lolicon out there. Ask on /b/ if you want. Japanese don't have a China-style great firewall that prevents access to all forbidden content.
Alternatively, he could be talking about CP. Obviously, illegal CP doesn't comply with Japanese censorship laws. (And, yes, making CP of your niece is quite a bit worse than just looking at CP, arguably a victimless crime.)
There's no reason to infer the whole niece scenario that would never occur to anyone who hadn't read (a gotcha quote of) the web novel.

You now imagine Rujierd spreading Nornie's tiny tight cunny hole apart with his massive, bone white, grithy Sperg cock.

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>>289524900
>Alternatively, he could be talking about CP.
He certainly is, the loli term isn't used strictly to refer to fiction in Japan, that's why he says "3D loli porn"

>Obviously, illegal CP doesn't comply with Japanese censorship laws
CP was actually legal in Japan when the story was first written.
>There's no reason to infer the whole niece scenario that would never occur to anyone who hadn't read (a gotcha quote of) the web novel
To the Japanese fanbase it was obvious what happened, it was so obvious it caused a bit of a controversy on some Japanese message boards. The writer himself acknowledged that Rudeus committed actions so bad it may turn off some readers completely and he was okay with that, there's no way he wasn't talking about the niece thing, because nothing else he did fits that description.

>>289524941
>He certainly is, the loli term isn't used strictly to refer to fiction in Japan
I know that, or I wouldn't have mentioned both interpretations. I don't remember "3D" from the LN. Whether it was there or not, it's still insane extrapolation that "uncensored 3D loli porn" must mean self-made CP. Nobody would draw that conclusion without familiarity with a different version of the story, so it's equivocation to bring this argument against people defending the LN or anime versions of Rudeus.

>>289520073
>Mushoku Tensei is literally the father of modern isekai
that would still be SAO
but ultimately isekai just copy elements from eachother constantly

>>289524993
>it's still insane extrapolation that "uncensored 3D loli porn" must mean self-made CP
It wouldn't need to be censored otherwise.
I guess you can claim he was looking for gaijin CP, but I think most in his shoes would settle for what's legal in his country rather than jumping through hoops like that, unless of course he was doing something like targeting his own niece.
>Nobody would draw that conclusion without familiarity with a different version of the story
You have to understand that you're reading a translation of the story. The Japanese version got the message by well enough that people understood it.

>>289520241
>Jobless Reincarnation is exceptional
there is nothing exceptional about it
at best it has the writing of an average YA book, but with some themes and topic borrowed straight from tele novelas
it can be enjoyable, hell i do enjoy the anime, but im here for the fantasy and adventure aspects, not the story or characters which are quite dull and shit on their own

people's reactions to MT is the definitive example showing that people judge others based on personality and not actions. They show all Rudeus' low moments and depict him as a despicable loser, that's why people hate the fact that he's actually a morally good person and on top of that, is winning. That also explains why people today can get away with incredible atrocities as long as they play a good personality or paint themselves as a victim.

Why do trannies and faggots and fat women focus specifically on this series?

In the English dubs, Rudeus should be voiced by Zach Braff and the sad music of Scrubs should be added at every sad scene..

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Honestly if this anime wasn't made by japs it wouldn't even have 1% of the current people defending it.
Imagine if this anime was made by jeets and you had to watch scenes like pic related.

>>289520073
You didn't disprove the other anon's post with this btw

>>289527226
Because Rudeus is tranny coded

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I never understood why people think that depicting pedophilia in fiction is automatically bad. No, it doesn't have to tell you it's wrong; it's fiction, not a moral guide. If you're intelligent enough, you'll know that fiction is fiction; there are many anime where people are killed for no reason, and nobody thinks badly of it. In Mushoku, a useless fat guy reincarnates in another world, and the character is about that. It doesn't explore pedophilia much, but the character is like that; there's not much more to it. Why is it supposed to be bad?

>>289527226
It's the most popular isekaislop harem

>>289527226
Because it's popular and also because the author can't help but insert creepy pedophilic sex pest '''''''''''''''jokes'''''''''''''''' every 10 seconds in an otherwise alright story.

And unfortunately this isn't the usual pantyshot shit that's usually done but some full blown self unaware creepy 60 y/o sex fantasies type shit.

>>289527612
Because it's funny and pathetic on a cosmic level that someone wrote an isekai about a fat ugly incestuous pedophile turning into a handsome chad in a world where all of his faults wouldn't be judged while he also gets to have a harem, and then goes on to defend the character's actions on twitter, and gets mad when someone makes a negative parody of him. And if you ever bring any of this up, his fans instantly get defensive and start throwing buzzwords your way.

>>289527761
You being so salty about this series for who knows reason to the point you'll go spreading horseshit is much funnier tho
If you actually think it's just generic slop, why don't you just move on and just consume the generic slop you like instead

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>>289518635
with his people, he won't be back till season 5

>>289527761
You can carry on laughing and farting in your moldy computer chair while the author laughs all the way to the bank for creating one of the most successful LN and anime franchises that's topping popularity charts around the world. I'll laugh with him as I hand him more royalty money ordering Roxy figures.
But he who scolds hardest laughs best, right?

>>289527824
>>289527915
Here comes the passive aggression

>>289527990
Was that next in your NPC script? There was nothing "passive aggressive" about my post.

>>289527915
>one of the most successful LN and anime franchises that's topping popularity charts around the world
Only when it's convenient for the narrative, every other time it triggers normalfags and is a secret club classic that nobody but this board understands.

It's like the schrodinger's cat of popularity

>>289528026
It's funny how you're trying to make quips and dogpile my posts but it's just you and one other autist ITT right now.

Rudy is considered a bad person?
He's just your average shut-in joe when stuck in his situation, my guy.
You have no idea what bad really is.

>>289527990
Woman comeback lmao

>>289528257
Passive aggression is a common woman comeback, yes.

>>289528214
Fr i don't get how people see the first episodes and think he's a bad guy when he was just a traumatized shut in. Like yes he did do some bad shit, but they even tell you in the anime it happened after his bullying clearly traumatized him.

>>289528370
>episodes
This is the problem, Anime only kun

>>289522032
A lot of communist niggers infiltrated the education system and started indoctrinating the kids, that's how started like 40 years ago

>>289518595
>one of it's main messages is that racism and prejudice are bad.

Is it really? Rudeus immediately discards all his 21st century 1st world mentality the minute he reincarnates. He doesn’t even think slavery is bad anymore. Like, not even in a “Man I wish I could end slavery but I can’t” way just “slavery is actually cool!” Way lmao

>>289530438
Well, technically speaking, the slavery seen in MT is more akin to Greco-Roman slavery than to transatlantic chattel slavery, as there are no designated "slave races"; rather, slaves find themselves in their social condition as a result of unpaid debts, kidnapping, or being captured in warfare.

>289518749
You clearly can't separate the art from the artist.

>>289528214
>bad person?
He's an inactive, passive, useless person. This, regardless of society, is the worst crime and the greatest cardinal sin a male can commit.

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>ctrl F
>"depraved"
>0 results
Actual thread of illiterates fo not calling OP out on this.

>>289535362
Shut up Light

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A miscarriage would be the preferable option if you knew you were going to be raising a 40 yr old pedophile larping as a kid, no sane person would agree to have such a "child".

>>289524243
KEK Soldat dunks on Rudeus for being obsequious and trying to ingratiate himself with people while acting all miserable.
The story is aware that his self-pity and good-guy act are annoying if the other person can see through it.
That said, the good part is that this weakness of his is situational. When it comes to his family and friends he's willing to go and try solo fucking Orsted.

Lord of Mysteries > this slop

>>289537689
>The story is aware that his self-pity and good-guy act are annoying if the other person can see through it
Nah, that just shows there are people who don't "get" him. The writer probably has to deal with people like that a lot in his life because like Rudeus he also has no self reflection.

>When it comes to his family and friends he's willing to go and try solo fucking Orsted
Nice power of friendship shonenslop

Name 1 bad thing NEET Rudeus ever did that has nothing to do with not becoming a depressed Japanese businessman.

>>289522207
cant believe there was a whole fucking cour about his erectile disfunction like what the flying fuck thats a season long humiliation ritual for the anime studio

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>>289524633
Its funny to open up one of these threads and look at the monkeys throwing shit at each other

>>289538688
I'm glad you get to feel superior to everyone else

>>289538758
he is

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>>289538758
Me too, monkey. Me too.

>>289538769
Maybe you should fuck him

>>289537650
Feminist

>>289538794
you would not survive my sloppiest kiss

>>289538782
You will never know what it's like to be passionate enough to argue about what you believe it.

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>>289538825
Wowiee, really? Tell us more about this anonymous user

>>289538862
I was talking to the proud fencesitter with no real opinion, not his lackey.

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>>289538897
Oh, thats really interesting. Tell us more about that anonymous user you know so well

>>289538938
You seem to know quite a lot about him. How big is his dick?

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>>289538972
I understand my huge schlong interests you to great lengths, lalala-homosexual, but thats offtopic discussion which is against the rules. Let us continue the shit flinging, true to the monkey-kind in this thread about the animated show from japan known as Mushoku Tensei.

>>289539116
Didn't you pretend to be so above it all? Why do you keep responding to me?

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>>289539142
I like seeing monkeys throwing shit, and you're fulfilling just that request

>>289539159
You're just mad. You keep responding because you're mad and need the last word. You can't accept the fact you got called out for being a an passionless no opinion NPC fencesitter and it cut so deep you now are doing everything in your power to try and prove me wrong.

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>>289539211
Interesting, tell us more

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>>289518446
What's wrong with pedophilia?