Chapter 267: Julius Vs. AgitoArchive:https://desuarchive.org/a/search/subject/daily%20kengan/start/2025-12-14/order/asc/
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Oh god, it's THE LINE.>Which oneA razor thin one.
>>289540662Ohhhhh yes yesssssss it's time to drink tears, here we have an excellent Chateau Gymfaggot, 2018 vintage.
Uh, Julius isn't in Agito's league.But for subversion's sake, I'm guessing Agito will lose again like with Arashiyama.Or did Agito already lose his hex by getting beaten by Arashiyama?
>>289540694>>289540709>D4Who?? I done recall it being mentioned previously at all.
THE CROWDIS GOING W I L D
>>289540755what is this outfit?
>>289540709What in the balls is an "underground martial arts promotion" even supposed to be Sandrobitch? Why are there so many in a small country like Japan you dumb hack? And that's not even talking about the fact that knothead Nogi was supposed to make the KA public.
>>289540735poor Julius.
NUTRIEEEEEEEEEEEEEENTS
>>289540755WOAHOOOOOOOOOOOA
>>289540778LMFAO imagine thinking you're smart when you don't even know about all of the real underground martial arts tournaments in Japan. there are 7 major organizations just right now.
>>289540725Actually agito will lose because this is when wall scaling gets introduced
>>289540755CAM ON AGITO BREAK HIS FAKIN BONES
>>289540735YOU ARE 4 CENTIMETERS APARTIS AGITO KNEELING
>>289540855Wtf are you supposed to do against this?
>>289540788No he didn't Kazzy. He used that to blow Toa back first. Why are you lying to the audience?
>>289540867HE'S LIQUEFYING!NO SHIT
>>289540818That still doesn't make sense. The Kengan Association was supposed to be a business dispute ruling body, what the fuck are those other leagues supposed to be? Are they mini-KA?
>>289540873Evolve to an Electric type.
Chapter 268: Side Effects
>>289540723Daddy longlegs?Is that meant to be fucking Daddy Warbucks?
>>289540709what bubble? this affects the underground fightan ring how?
>>289540867>NO ITS CLEARLY DIFFERENT FROM THE FORMLESS STYLE HE'S USED IN THE PASTGonna elaborate on that?
>>289540653>>289540662>>289540668>>289540694>>289540709>>289540723>>289540735>>289540755>>289540768>>289540788Good fucking god. It took TEN PAGES for the fight to start. Page 1 was forced hype and could have been deleted.Pages 2 and 3 could have been combined or even turned into a panel of them walking in, instead of forcing nonexistent hype.Who the fuck cares about the D4 backstory finance and ownership dump in pages 4, 5 and 6? Like WHO THE FUCK CARES GODDAMN IT?The banter between Agito and Julius should have been page 1 instead of page 7.Page 8 is just pointless Alisa fanservice that should have been relegated to a dust cover. Page 9 and 10 should have been part of page 1 when Julius is walking out. We don't need an explanation for what he's doing.God this manga is so fucking bloated.
>>289540933It gets worse
>>289540917No, that's still right assuming that the TL is faithful. Daddy Longlegs is just someone who shills money from the background.
>>289540891REMINDER that Sandro took a break after this. This chapter with all of its empty filler was somehow so tough and exhausting to write that he needed a break.
>>289540735No Julius, at most this will prove whether or not you’re "Literally Kuroki"-tier
>>289540755sexooooooooOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>289540873Cover your fists in salt
I thought Dragon shot was a one-shot move? Why does everyone and their mother keep surviving it?
>>289540959>>289540972Why would any of this matter if he can just go water limp and take no damage?
>>289541032They are scaling the wall
>>289541032Julius is like the most durable fighter in the series. Him or Wakatsuki. It's why Fei punting Wakatsuki like he was with regular punches was meant to be crazy.
>>289540873haki
>>289540999>>289541013This is dumb, the entire point of the one inch punch is that you use your entire weight for a massive blow in such a short range. You're not doing that with your arm extended that far.
Oh god, chapter 269 is next. Now THAT is one chapter for the record books.
>>289541079YEAAAHHH OBLIQUES
>>289540855SEEKING THE PEACE OF REASON
>>289540906you know it's gonna be an exceptionally shit volume when Gaolang makes the cover
>>289540765It was mentioned in his Asura introduction as the previous org he fought at
>>289541089>Hey Sandro, what do we put in the bottom panel for page 14? >Just have Kazzy scream as he always does>Got it
>>289541112>He's beginning to believe.
>>289541123The "scaling" has "arrived"
>>289541049>Holy shit, he countered my heavily telegraphed Nintendo boss-looking tackle from across the arena? What the FUCK do I do against this?Julius...
Chapter 269: Scaling the Wall
>>289541146It's here
OH GOD, HERE IT COMES
NOT KANOH AGITONOT WAKATSUKI TAKESHINOT EVEN KUROKI GENSAI
>>289541146Here we goThe actual origin of the term
>>289540765>>289540709It's clarified in SIR that D4 is short for Deadly Death Dead Die, which was one of the orgs already mentioned in Ashura back when Purgatory was first brought up as well. Pay no attention to the fact that Sandro seemingly forgot D4 was actually short for something else and felt the need to explain it was founded by 4 people to justify the name.
>>289541146>>289541157THIS IS SO FUCKING RETARDED! WHY EVEN ASK THAT QUESTION IN PAGE 1 GROUNDED IN REALISM WHEN YOU THROW IN A FANTASY SCENARIO IN PAGE 2?
>Higher heightsplease tell me this isnt gonna become another "timing down" thing
>>289540755She's even dressing like a fighter now.
>>289541184>interrupting the dump for irrelevant XiR babble yet againYou subhuman vermin.
damn, julius is getting stomped. what the hell?
>>289541188Thats clearly outer space, so shen is like introducing a mountain climber thats only climbed on earth his whole life to MT. Olympus on mars.
>>289540709What happened to Bishamon
>>289541157HIGHER HEIGHTS
>>289541157HEIGHER HEIGHTSDEEPER DEPTHSDUMBER RETARDATION
>>289540850Julius is just so massive that he warps the light around which make everything around him look even smaller
>>289541198It becomes another staple phrase, lol.
>>289541254fuuuuuuuck man.
>>289541227He'll get his "however" any moment now haha
>>289540755AWOOOGA
>>289541233Absorbed by purgatory or something, that's how Terashi became a purg gladiator
>>289540893>what the fuck are those other leagues supposed to be?Illegal organisations making money off of betting.
>>289541265ONEWELLTIMEDGRAPPLEIT'S ALL IT TAKES
Jesus I forgot how much of a humiliation ritual this was for Julius.No wonder Sandro felt the need for him to FLEX on that bitch Gilbert.
>>289541265>SHHHHHHYYY->>289541280>ACKCome on Julius
>>289541173OH GODddd I’M SCALING AAAAAHHHHHHH
>>289540929>took him 1 chapter to go "aight fuck this I have to ringout" kek musclefags never recoveres
>>289541317THERE IT IS
>>289541198>>289541260Wait till you get to "razor thin margin"
>>289541308>>289541317Dude I get it. I got it the first time you explained it
DONEAlisa sex. Alisex.
>>289541308>>289541317THERE IT IS later retconned to literally be an RPG EXP mechanic because lmao
>>289541288>the "infection" is spreading
>>289541344AND THIS...
An i̸n̴t̴e̷r̷e̶s̷t̵i̵n̷g̸ ̷m̷a̵t̴c̷h̸. I like that is framed as a b̶̩̳͘a̷̳̙̔͋ẗ̶̂̀͜͜ẗ̵̠̓̓ļ̴͚̃̈́ȩ̷͉́͐̈ ̵̫̺̞̌ȯ̸̢̙f̴̰̚ ̶̹̜̖͛̓o̵̡͖̾̆̕p̶̙̑̈́̕p̷̤͑̎ȯ̷̥́s̴̘̖͂͐ȋ̸͙̻̿͗ͅt̵̟̿e̶͈̯͊s̵̥͋, where Agito can outbox as much as he wants but he cannot outlast Julius' s̵t̸u̶r̶d̷y̷ ̴b̵u̶i̷l̶d̷, leaving him open to losing his advantage thanks to a single, ẁ̵̹̮̜́͆͘e̴͎͘ļ̵͔̔̾͛̀̕l̶͖̈͐-̸̛͉͇̹̩̦̏͊̾̆t̷̪͍̠͌͂ḭ̵̡̼̥̟͆̾͊͘m̸̢͇̫̜̬̀̂̿ḙ̶̳̗͖͆͛d̴̺̬̓̌ ̶̡̜͔̯̤͑t̸̥̰͔̮͗̌h̷͉̯͕̍́ṛ̵̣̌͊̌ǫ̴̰̘̹̩̑̈́̃́͘w̶̱͉͚̗̱͘̕. A true clash of m̵a̶s̷t̵e̶r̸s̶, so to speak.
>>289541344>Takes nothing but a pure ass beating>I've *wheeze* c-caught *cough* up to you!Pure comedy.
>>289541317>those two top panelsGoddamn. So much of the community's memes come from this chapter's retarded writing.
So Kanoh got strong enough to low-diff Julius and now Julius is getting stronger too? Doesnt that mean they got stronger than Kuroki, because nobody was scaling walls by seeing Kuroki
>>289541223It shows that Sandro simultaneously takes pride in the interconnectivity of his works while also not being bothered to keep his shit straight. You should be elated, there is one more thing for you to scream in to the void about.
>>289541032Sen survived two of them the first time it was ever introduced. The real question is "Why is he using Dragon Shot, a difficult technique that specifically exists so he can hit hard even up close, even when he's far enough to just throw a punch?"
So that ramon guy just exist to get fed to lolong so we can see his "unfathomable" wall scaling techniques he unlocked since he was apart of the shen hit squad?
>>289541330>absolutely STYLIN' on Keklius>"I knew he wouldn't be a simple opponent"This is exactly like that greentext of Ohma carpet bombing his opponent with compliments.
>>289541383Kuroki is out there fighting warships, he's been grinding this entire time.
>>289540694>registered with bothSo there's no rules stopping this shit?It's not even like how purgatory is technically part of the KA so a fighter can rep both, D4 is totally separate.What's stopping some big top tier giga nigga from registering with every promotion and becoming the champion of them all?
>>289541383Kuroki is the Beerus of this setting. His powerlevel quietly gets raised every time his competitors power up so that he remains slightly ahead of them at all times without having to ever actually do anything.
>>289541383Yes, but people aren't ready to have that conversation because the fans and author treat Kuroki as a sacred cow.
>>289540891A NEW FANTASTIC POINT OF VIEW
>>289541419Never mind, I didn't use pre-initiative to read ahead and I got the timing wrong.
>>289541383Kuroki was an achievable goal even by Asura standards. He was the strongest, but not by much compared to the other R4 fighters. So he wasn't enough to "infect" anyone else. The power levels were still too close.And yeah, KAT finals Kuroki is a bum now by Omega levels.
>>289541134>cliffhanger that doesn't make any sense with what Yan says in the next chapterSandro too is scaling the wall.
>>289540850Julius is standing on his toes
>>289541123Ah, yes. Your fight with Agito. The fight we totally got to see and wasn't just you two staring at each other for three chapters. That fight.
>>289540959agito culo
>>289540850Julius is standing on a box.
>>289541317AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH AAAAAAAAH
>>289541401"Survived", yeah, that's a good word. It technically didn't kill him, he just looked and acted like he'd been blasted through the torso with an anti-materiel rifle.
>>289541447I think sandro is really poorly trying to say>shen you have been alive for thousands of years why didn't you warn me about wall scaling? We just handed our enemies a massive powerup
>>289541134Oh right I forgot this shit was happening in the meantime.
>>289540867I hate nu-formless so much.It honestly feels like how in some adaptations the people in charge clearly haven't read the source material so they just take things at face value, in this case formless has quite literally become having no solid form.Except it's the same author throughout.Truly unfathomable.
>>289541157AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH MY GOOOOOOOD
>>289541383The problem is that Kuroki gets stronger off-screen too. Ashura Kuroki is no longer anything special. Even Kaolan might have a shot of beating him.Back when KAT was happening, Sandro said that there was a gap between Kuroki and Agito, but one where Agito would have some chances of winning. In Omega, Kuroki said something similar in the Purgatory battle. By now, Agito would smoke the previous versions of Kuroki. Key word being "previous" because Kuroki is just Beerus. He's strong enough that he stays ahead but not so strong that the other kengan heavyweights can't beat him. Shen is the only one who is in another league. Edward too. Fei maybe?
>>289541488I'm reminded that the Rock apparently did something like this because even though he's more than 6 ft tall, he has a massive complex about not towering over everyone else.
>>289541344
I'm "scaling" the "wall" as we "speak"
>>289540867>his liquid is more shiny now so the formless is differentAlright Sandro if you say so.
>>289540755By far the most erotic outfit she's worn yet.
>>289541363I like what you're doing with "this".
>>289541146>Is he invincible?
>>289541027>serious damage>hexagons and a little blood
Muscle and reach don't matter. You just need to learn principles and shift your gravity center.
>>289541198If you get the timing right, you can scale the wall and reach higher heights
>>289541223I didn't check if the dump was over. My bad. Now please go scream at the other anon who also posted an image way earlier than me, or die a horrible death for being a hypocrite.
>>289540855Agito moving like Glacius.
>>289541157I hope green readers who finally learned the origins of wall scaling are satisfied.Because I sure wasn't when this first came out.
>>289540836FORMA DE AGUA ELEMENTAL
I don't even like Julius but it still feels a bit wrong to see him getting manhandled like this.
>>289541254Pretty sure it was in Sandro's mind since before Ashura. Omega is like Sandro going through Ohma's memory unloss in Ashura but instead of relearning to Niko Style good he's reverting back to Fist of the Seeker writing.
>>289541603No. That anon's pic was to show the break dates. Kill yourself. And take your ryona-obsessed friend with you.
>>289540929HE’S A STRIKERHE’S A GRAPPLER
>>289540893Kengan Association is were companies settle financial disputes, contracts, rights to build whatever, etc. The other are literally glorified MMA rings whose entire revenue comes from ticket sales, betting and whatever else strictly fighting related. It makes the worldbuilding a little bit retarded now that I think about it, because I can't remember why did Kengan have any reason to compete against Purgatory or even care about those associations since both have completely unrelated goals. Toyoda just wanted to stroke his ego and get even richer by making the gladiators fight, the KA was a middleman for businessmen. Don't think much about it anon.
>>289541317This feels like a when baki tries to explain its bullshit but way worse. In baki it probably would have atleast given us a 3 page history of the 10 second barrier and how scientists said it would be impossible to break, but then Jim hines being some super poor kid that just liked to run wasnt even aware of the ten second barrier and broke it all the time and shocked the world when he did it at the Olympics. But sandro just drops the term and says "they scaled the wall" and so now all there subconscious limits are removed.
>>289541317I KNOW I saved the edit of this, and yet I can't find it anywhere.
>>289541344>Alisa sex. Alisex.Based taste, fellow "me."Nagasex?
>>289541317OHHHHHHHI'M I'M SCAAAAAAAAAAALING
>>289541317
For anyone keeping score, Kazzy's mouth has been stuck wide open for at least six chapters in a row.
>>289541704Yeah, Itagaki would spend an entire arc explaining this really, with examples and people gawking over one exemplar fight. In Omega, Shen appears and apparently that's enough to increase the level cap.
>>289541157Sandro is just a clunky and awful parable teller/riddler. When someone tries to present a parable, typically the "moral" of the story is something an observant listener could guess or see coming by putting two and two together. Same goes with riddles. The answer should be "obvious" and understandable and something in front of you this entire time, just something that you needed a different perspective to see.Here it's the opposite. The second page with the whole "what if there were heigher heights?" being revealed as the answer to the riddle/parable is not how these things work. It's the equivalent of someone presenting the twin railroad conundrum as a riddle and answering with "but what if you could turn the train the other way around so that nobody gets hit?". It just feels so cheap and lame.
>>289541668>Omega is like Sandro going through Ohma's memory unloss in Ashura but instead of relearning to Niko Style good he's reverting back to Fist of the Seeker writing.Lmaoo you could make a Niko-style copy with only Sandroisms, organised in 4 Katas. Subversion Kata, Laziness Kata and
>>289541789>Sandro is just a clunky and awful parable teller/riddler.
>>289541801Sandro got this "me". RIP is peace
>>289541801Anon? ANOOOOOOOOON
>>289541308>>289541317So why is agito still alive after this?
>>289541674You might have had a point if the pic showing the break was posted right after the cliffhanger, but it was in the middle of a chapter between pages of Agito dodging and countering.Making excuses for dump interruptions just shows that you lack principles.
So...what, KAT-level fighters and Purgatory fighters are now powercreeped into irrelevance? Because that's what this fight is telling me.
>>289541867He hasn't "arrived"...
>>289541860Anon, what happens if you squeeze water? Does it get damaged? What Julius should've done here is consume him.
>>289541869"You" don't quite get it, "me." The "infection" is spreading.
>>289541869What it’s telling you is that existing powerscaling is completely irrelevant and Sandro will have characters do whatever he wants
It sure is convenient how Julius' one-touch KO move is completely ineffective against Agito because Formless nullifies it.I don't know how being able to create new martial arts during a fight also makes you immune to blunt impacts. At this point Formless is more useful than Niko Style Water Kata.Maybe Lu Tian got it all right and Formless is truly the superior style.
>>289541869No because ojce you see someone who has started to wall scale you start wall scaling yourself
>>289541888Water is refreshing but it's not "nutrients" though!
>>289541801>>289541823>>289541845Sandro Style Laziness Kata: See You Next Week
>>289541801>>289541823>>289541845I already have all the data i need to evolve the Sandro Style even Further
>>289541495>he just looked and acted like he'd been blasted through the torso with an anti-materiel rifleThese three pages are him after the first one, him after the second one, and him after the match. So yeah. He was still going and actually putting up a fight after one of them, and though the second fucked him up enough for Agito to close up the match quickly afterwards it didn't knock him out by itself.
>>289541317>There used to be an "Integrity" barrier in the manga industry.>But as soon as two mangaka used ChatGPT and Dall-E,>Many more followed suit.
>>289541528Don't know which one you're talking about, but it reminded of this from Fast and Furious. Vin Diesel is noticeably shorter than the Rock, so they had to do...whatever this is
>>289541704Sandro wants to be Itagaki so bad it's even endearing. He tries to slip from time to time outright Baki elements like the bald monk doing the witness describing event bit or this one explanation, and he fails miserably every time. I'm not entirely sure of the main reason, but my guess is he can't do it because unlike Itagaki he does not believe in anything he's saying at all. Itagaki does obviously not believe in the supernatural aspect of his work (main reason why his characters are so inconsistent in destructive power) but every move he draws or explains genuinely comes from his most sincere hype and admiration. Current Sandro is only capable of feeling disgust and contempt, so every time he does something like this it's instantly clocked as fake.
>>289540755christ almighty those thighs
>>289541869No, they level up faster because the level scaling curve is now fucked. That's how Haruo turns fit and develops schizophrenia.
Shouldn't Yan and Niko have scaled the wall too decades ago?Why are the kengan fighters being portrayed like they're all about to surpass people who have been exposed to Shen's bullshit for way longer?
>>289540662Oh boy time for a Julius fightMaybe he'll...Dare I sayPunch REALLY hard?
>>289540959gayest page in a while
>>289541958Alisa's training to become Chun Li and get her blood fix on her own
>>289541173
>>289541517This is more "data" for my conspiracy theory that Sandro isn't even involved any more and we've been reading an AI story all along.An AI isn't going to pinpoint the definition of what formless is from the text in Ashura, it's just going to know it's writing a martial arts story and the dictionary definition of formless therefore it must be a fighting style that lets you become syrup on command.
>>289541932Okay, cool. Here's the panel where he actually got hit. I think it fits my description more than it does yours.
>>289541173He said the thing
>>289541869Sandro couldn't figure out how to level up The Icy Emperor normally so Shen's power became a mind-virus somehow.Himuro is the real protagonist.
>>289540946If you remove the legs and head from that top panel you'll be left with a scrotum.
>>289541950
>>289541869No, its saying that since the infection is spreading, powerlevels no longer have meaning because you can just say a fighter has "scaled the wall" and suddenly that can 1v1 against anyone.
>>289540891If Kengan became a musical from here on then maybe it wouldn't be so boring
>>289541704>Jim hines being some super poor kid that just liked to run Expanding on what you said here itagaki would have went on about out how jim hines was shorter and not fit as the other runners since he grew up some poor malnourished kid but still beat them anyway and his quote about how the other runners seemed to be holding themselves back to emphasize how much subconscious barriers can hold you back without you even knowing.
>>289540929So he's cool with strength not being the end all and now he has do to lame shit like aiming for a ring out?
>>289540709>>289541184Dirty Deeds Done Dirt
>>289542167Kek
>>289540946>You could cut the tension with a knifeIs the tension really that weak?
So are all of the kenganvengers going to start unlocking bullshit magic powers now thanks to "wall scaling"
>>289540714hmmmmm delicious
This fucking daily is following me wherever I go.
>>289540723So the kengan association owns the top 3 fighting promotions, Garo and most likely a few others.In other words a monopoly.And all the powerful individuals who use the matches to settle business disputes are fine with this?
>>289540755
>>289542253The "Infection" is spreading...
>>289542253
>>289542257Don't worry the manga said they are super impartial and fair so it's fine.
>>289542239There's been like one example so far if you're caught up. Well two, but I don't think he counts as one yet. There's no reason to evolve when your enemies are suicidal.
>>289542239Principles is genuine magic, wall scaling is just getting stronger for no reason.So far the only people with Principles are Shen and Raian.
>>289542289"You were awesome, Zico..."
>>289542307you are forgetting tokio "he is just like the connector" ohma
>>289542293You are right, "me".I was still stuck in the Ashura mindset where Kengan members were ruthless and power hungry, not the Omega timeline where they are shining paragons of morality.
>>289541173>He got stronger because Shen stood there and didn't do anything from Agito's perspectiveWow. Any elaboration on why the myriad of other jobbers like Mukaku didn't do this?
>>289541869No? It's saying the opposite, that it's easy to scale the wall once someone has done it so the status quo doesn't change except you are assured they are stronger now.
>>289542333Alas anon, you have been caught in my "spider-web". You used pre-initiative to include Ohma but he doesn't get his "just like the connector" moment until he fights the worm jobber on the island.
>>289542359Mukaku was 100 years old he was "unfathomable" for his age.
>>289541988Stop asking questions. Do you want me to take another break week? Or how about another rule recap for the current arc? You'd shut up if you knew what was good for you.
My problem with the concept is all Shen really did was lightly touch people and have have them discombobulate from it. I'm not sure what takeaway you can have from that level of magic. It's a weird catalyst for everyone suddenly growing stronger.
>>289541317>>289541308>>289541317>"Scale the wall">Do absolutely nothing differently from before>Fail in much worse fashionDid Julius "fall off the wall" here?
>>289542424You can argue that he did knock out "top tiers" (at least two fangs of Metsudo got downed) with no effort so it was an eye opening event but man it did not feel like anything.
>>289542436He failed to scale the wall, he merely crashed through it.
Any way you look at it, it doesn't make sense.If scaling the wall is infectious then it would have happened many connectors ago.Evidently all it takes is one or two people to be exposed to the connector's strength to then push themselves beyond their limits which other people then try to do themselves.So unless every previous connector killed every fighter that saw the power gap then martial artists from thousands of years ago would have been infected.
>>289542436He only has 2 minutes of wall scaling compared to agitos couple of weeks, there was nothing he could do.
>>289541157What kind of videogame has Sandrovich been playing?
>>289542534Disgaea.
>>289542476Most connectors were hermits living peacefully on some secluded mountain, only coming down to be worshipped by peasants. It's only the odd psychopath like the Mukaku-era connector that bothered fighting anyone, and I guess you don't get "infected" if you're not an absolute top tier fighter with (supposedly) no remaining room to improve, so I guess they just either never ran into a fighter strong enough that they could pozz with Principles or they just killed anyone who was that strong to stop it from leaking into the wider world.
>>289541098You've arrived at "Stillness", well done
>>289542540When are they going to item worlds to further buff their damage?
>>289541223>"Interrupt">Dumper continues dumping without slowing down>"Irrelevant">Answers what the other "me" was askingYou're no Sandro but you're not far off. Keep scaling the wall.
>>289540755Alisa seems to have developed a secondary fetish for exhipitionism
>>289542359I was going to say Agito saw all the people Shen took out when he revealed himself but he wasn't even there.Did we get a reason for that or did we hit our cameo quota during that whole debacle?
>>289542584But did Sandro compete in multiple martial arts? I don't think so!
>>289542601He wasn't there at all, for some reason.
>>289540836Julius is a rock-type and Agito is a water-type.This is an unfathomably unfair matchup.
>>289542540Could Overlord Zetta have taken him?
>>289542652>Julius used thunder punch!
>>289540867I was under the impression that Agito turning into water was a visual metaphor.But people are apparently seeing him turn into water?
>>289542554We know at the very least that an aberrant connector defeated the OG worm 1300 years ago and there were definitely survivors.That's a long time for the infection to spread.Then again maybe the worm back then was as suicide happy as they are now and anyone who could have scaled the wall said "Not happening! I'm dying now!".
>Justin "fathoms" the fighterswhat does this say about him, in Sandro-speak
>>289540914I still don't understand how Formless is considered a separate thing from "martial arts" as a concept.
>>289542652>Julius is rock type>Boast high defense with a shit ton of weaknesses>Agito has Adaptability>>289542682Did you forget that Agito is part dragon type?
>>289540755holy moly
>>289540755ALISA OWNS ME SEX
>>289542686I can't blame people for taking it literally.Most fights are depicted without any embellishment now so it's reasonable to believe that what we're seeing is what is actually happening.
>>289541592The hexagons are hex sigils. Hence why they're hexagons.The more hexagons you can put on your opponent's body, the more likely your opponent is to lose.
>>289541173WHY DOES THE ENTIRE MANGA REVOLVE AROUND THIS STUPID FUCKING CHARACTERIT'S NOT EVEN QABOUT MARTIAL ARTS OR STRENGTH ANYMORE IT'S JUST ABOUT THE HECKIN CHUNGUS AND THE CREATURES FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO BE CAUGHT IN HIS ORBIT
>>289542561Would the item would let the knife wielders win?
>>289542732Agito is literally described as having Protean abilities here.>Dragon resists lightning, nulling the weaknessTruly schizokino
>>289542765Yeah I hate Himuro too.
>>289541089Kazzy is actually talking about Julius here.Julius is too strong, and that's why he's losing.
>>289540662Is his epitaph a hex?
>>289541173>>289541308>>289541317AIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>289542686It gets worse later
>>289542717It's not. "Martial Arts" is just shorthand for Agito's compound martial arts knowledge wherein he has a particular move for a given situation. This includes all of his MMA stuff, boxing, wrestling, and stuff like the Niko Style. It's just him pairing down his options to the single best tool for each stock situation and labeling the collection of moves.
>>289542777I had failed to consider. Adaptability must be his other ability. Metsudo caught him with Protean.
>>289542765>WHY DOES THE ENTIRE MANGA REVOLVE AROUND THIS STUPID FUCKING CHARACTERWould you prefer if the main story arc focus was on kure instead ?
>>289540946>>289540959I love being able to watch the art actively degenerate in real time.
>>289542789this shit is too hilarious to hate
>>289541344I'm going to Alisa!
>>289542289Tbf this is common in sport>this white QB is slow but can throoooow? literally the next Brady
>>289542686it's Demon Slayer logic where you can't see the breathing techniques manifesting water/fire/etc. but you give the foe schizophrenia and they perceive them.>>289542789the C
>>289540755She's expecting a bloodbath from this fight so she dressed in her horniest clothes
>>289542812Raian island of higanjima subplot spinoff
>>289540653Once again I wonder if Sayaka is supposed to be half black or just tanned
>>289540805>I'm sure to win because my speed is superior
>>289542789Wtf are you even supposed to fo against this?
>>289542835There's an ironic subversion nowadays, which is>oh my god, this white QB is athletic? HE'S THE NEXT JOSH ALLEN SIGN HIM SIGN HIM NOW we can teach him to throw later>he fucking sucks
>>289540930Well you see formless used to be a way to move with the blows, but now he's just turning into liquid. Kazzy is right, this is different.
>>289541146>>289541157What does this even mean?Like, genuinely, think about it, what the fuck does this even mean?This analogy makes no sense at all.
>>289542864Bring a bottle
>>289542835
>>289541101Hey you leave him alone
>>289542864Shoot his watery ass with a gun. It's the only way.
>>289540668It really is a downgrade to go to "the fifth fang" from "THE fang of metsudo"Everyone should just pretend next gen fangs don't exist, agito would low diff them anyway
>>289541064>>289541079I remember this sequence broke Juliusfags even before the ending of this fight.>NOOOOOO WHY CANT HE SNAP THE 130KG 200 CM GIGACHANG'S LIMBS EFFORTLESSLY LIKE HE DID THE BALLERINA JOBBER, THIS IS OUTRAGEOUS IT'S UNFAIR
>>289540788not a technique btw
>>289542885No, it makes perfect sense if you remove it from whatever context that Sandro is putting it in. It's basically increasing the standards in whatever sports/fighting shit or whatever. The running metaphor gets somewhat close but it hinging on Shen's existence throws whatever credibility out the window.
>>289542885He has "glimpsed" the "world beyond", and now knows that "the truth exists beyond the gate".
>>289540959Maybe most erotic Agito pose
>>289540930Agito heard Bruce Lee say "become like water" and took it literally
>>289542911'member when the Fangs of Metsudo were supposed to be all the literal best talents in the Kengan Association?
>>289542909Wait till you find out what happens to bullets in water.
>>289540855He's a slime?
>>289542944Must've been before they invited Hatsumi
>>289540755This is still the ugliest Alisa outfit. At least make it one of those sleeveless high-leg qipao if you want pits and leg instead of this swimsuit with tablecloths
>>289542885Not to defend it but what part is hard to get?>Have preconceived notions of what is possible>See things as possible>They now seem more within reach
>>289540755Why can't flawless anime women be real?
>>289541072As far as fighting style goes, Agito might be the most flanderized character in all of kengan. You've got formless, which is supposed to be Agito on the fly adapting to his opponent, which has just become him turning into jelly against every opponent, and then there's the dragon shot, whose point was that it gave Agito a powerful blow at any range, even point blank, and now he's exclusively spamming it even though it was literally established he has a variety of moves for different ranges.
>>289540755GRAB HIS DICK AND TWIST IT AGITOTHE OL' TWISTER
>>289541079People are focusing on Julius's knee, but what the FUCK is going on with Agito's legs here
>>289540628>Chapter 267: Julius Vs. AgitoOnly good fight in the tourney.
>>289541146>>289541157This is beyond retarded for so many reasons. Literally every Kenganvenger DID know about higher mountains. Kuroki won the KAT. Agito was flashback powering up with the idea of surpassing him in his match with Jurota. All of them have lost at some point or another. Seeing those fights between Kuroki, Agito, and Ohma should have inspired them too. What about Sen's vision of Agito as a mountain that eclipsed him too? That wasn't enough to "scale"?Fuck this manga GOD
>>289540855sandro.... what the fuck....
So so how much longer until other characters start "scaling the wall" to the point that they learning principles?
>>289542812Only if the series becomes porn
>>289540877Maybe he evolved again.
>>289541173He's done it!
>>289541193What the fuck does this even mean. Just def ignore hex magic.
>>289541032The damage was bugged, it was fixed/nerfed about two balance patches ago. That's when Agito players got the water elemental formless style buff to compensate for the dragon shot nerf.
>>289542953>youtubedOh my god. Agito is unstoppable
>>289542191He'd also explain that jim hines was running in authentic japanese sandals
>>289540755Is the winner allowed to drag Alisa off like a caveman?
>>289540959https://youtu.be/L7KYPQQH5Eo?t=73
>>289541344Thanks OP. Is this where Agito finally learns SS3?
>>289543069You see, muscles are like a suit of armor and you need to attack the gaps between plates if you don't deal armor piercing damage.
>>289540929immediately lost all aura by being a bitchmost telegraphed loss of all time
>>289540873Throw him.
Unrelated to this batch, but are there any truly undefeated characters? Out of ones with fights that have conclusions, not shit like Yan vs Agito for a few panels while other things happened. No purg rules either, I was thinking about these and laughed at how Naidan and Alan would be on it.basically no one from Asura besides Kuroki
>>289540873Ramming or grappling maybe
>>289543069>What the fuck does this even mean. Julius used harden.
>>289543111Julius' dick fell off from roiding and Agito has autism, nobody is getting dragged anywhere.
>>289540788Julius' techniques are so cool>>289540850>>289541251Kek>>289540755I know I asked for more slut outfits but this is absurd
>>289541027How is dragon shot dealing more damage than god glow lmao
>>289543151Julius.....
>>289540735Gilbert and Willem are both still taller than these two btw!
>>289541317>>289541704>>289541956Sandro's problem is that he's just fucking lazy.Itagaki would have spun a yarn about this. Something like>The 10 second barrier was thought to be impossible to cross.>Athletes, scientists, and fans alike believed that nobody could complete a 100m dash in under 10 seconds.>That is, until one sprinter did.>Was made him different? Was it his genes? His training? The weather?>No.>He was able to do it because he believed it was possible.>And once the others knew it was possible, they could believe as well, and they could also scale that wall.And then Itagaki would use that to convince us that Baki flying by believing hard enough that he's a bird isn't retarded.Sandro just says >Uhhh there used to be a 10 second barrier but then one guy broke it and then a bunch of others did.And characters get stronger despite fighting the exact same way but now they're doing it more betterer.
>>289541771I got curious. His longest "open/gaping mouth reaction" streaks during the RCT so far;>Jurota v. Gaolang + Agito v. Julius currently tied (8 continuous reactions that have his mouth open before his expression changes the next time he's seen)>Justin v. Hiraku (5)
>>289540959This is truly the Ass of Metsudo.
>>289542875>Washizu scales the wall after being near Akagi for 5 hanchan>Akagi points out that Washizu's luck is too strong and that's why he can't defend>Akagi catches up to Washizu with weaker hands because he knows he can't get too strong
>>289543209that was a beautiful greentext anon, I could picture exactly how Itagaki would panel that out the pages are clear in my mind
>>289541317IM ABOUT TO SCALEEEEEEEEEEAIEEEEEE
>>289541146Xia's thing.
>>289543167>Julius' techniquesBro you can't just say that.
>>289541182STFU
>>289542777But wasn't Protean nerfed?Why is Agito getting stronger?
>>289542554>>289542703In fact, Shen vs that Worm leader had a whole arena full of Worm spectators wearing modern suits and eyeglasses, drinking out of modern wineglasses, with the sound being projected through the modern wired stereo system in the ceiling.
>>289541146>>289541157YOU GOTTA CARRY THAT WEIGHTYOU GOTTA SCALE THAT WALL
>>289541157So it just means that you're aware that there are people who are stronger than you?
>>289543303Because agito is scaling the wall, duh.
>>289541383Kuroki was using only 1% of his power.
>>289542253>>289542289the "infection" continues to spread
>>289542885For a long time the 4 minute mile was considered almost impossible, then once the first man broke it, many followed in quick succession. If you trained all your life to master Everest and K2, that is your plateau. But what if you could go to another planet where there's a real spire of rock that is far taller and steeper and harder? That would drive you to improve your skills far more once again.
Hassad soon.
>>289543020Kuroki was only a little stronger than Agito, and Agito feasibly could catch up to him in a few years just holding pace. Shen is on a whole 'nother level.
>>289541363
>>289541157Why is the wording in this page so repetitive?
>>289542359Mukaku invented several insanely strong techniques and fighting styles and at 100 years old could have been the KAT champ, because of Shen. He did scale that wall. Mukaku's only real 'issue' is that he was fine with cheating over just pure strength.
>>289541265Earth Crouching Dragon?
>>289541704>>289541956Well said
>>289541319>>289542215Please understand, his totally Not-a-Technique that could kill a man in one hit just got completely negged by Agito going extremely limp upon impactI'd call bullshit and go for a ringout too, unless you'd want to be like Lolong who got booty blasted after being overconfident because reeling from Niko Style technique wasn't enough for him to read the room >>289541344>Bloody, battered, bruised and beaten>Tries claiming he's reached Agito's domain because he gave him a bear hug that he got out with ease, unlike Waka who's physically more durable than Agitolol this fight completely broke Juliusfags and tanked their stocksNot even Julius getting a pity moral victory over Gilbert saved his stocks>>289540946>>289540959Man, Daro really didn't want to draw Godkiller. He just flat out refused to draw it correctly
>>289542424>we've been training physicals like retards! we need to start bullshitting strength!>this power... what is this... by complimenting my opponents, they grow... weaker!? even just in my head...!
A 'non-initiatied' friend asked me if he should start reading Asura since he loves the Danberu anime.I told him to go ahead.He's really excited because he heard there's even a very popular 'Omega' sequel and he wants to start reading it asap.This shit made my day.Even funnier than recommending Boku no Pico 20 years ago.
>>289543069One of the actual IRL tricks to giving someone a bad muscle cramp or charley-horse is to hit them where their muscle splits, mainly in the thighs.
>>289543455>since he loves the Danberu anime.you should've called him a waifufag slurper nofight
>>289543455Sounds like that could backfire. I have a "premonition" he might actually like Omega.
>>289543455Another schizo added to sandro's collection of souls
>>289541288>pozzing agito lewd
>>289541344We DBZ now.
>>289541383Shen is only one tier higher tops where as Shen is a few tiers above everyone else.
>>289543518>Shen is only*Kuroki
>>289542789 I hate how Formless doesn't make sense with the anatomy. I feel like before you had an idea of how Agito was really moving but this is awful. Is Agito just breaking his spine here or what?
Reminder that WALL Shen was holding back against his fight against Kuroki (who was also holding back).Another WALL remains.
>>289540668Someone get this FRAUD outta here
>>289541308>If he lifts himAnd the reasson he hasn't done this yet is?, did scaling the wall somehow made Agito heavier?
>>289543404>he's surprised by Sandro padding out chapters in the laziest way possibleWhat you see on that page is nothing new. I and others here been spending many threads just shitting on chapters that constantly repeat things to pad out chapters (like the recent backstory shit with Justin).The editor doesn't care that Sandro is basically just doing everything in a stream of consciousness style. As long as he ensures Sandro hits his weekly page quota and his job is safe, the editor couldn't care any less.
How well would he handle the wall?
Wait didn't jurota fight agito after his shen assassination attempt? Shouldnt we have seen some of his wall scaling to?
>>289543221Could you count all of the reaction panels? Even ones that don't involve Kazzy?
>>289543543I don't even get why Sandro felt it was necessary to state Kuroki was also holding back in that fight. It's like the antagonists can't ever get a clean win on the kenganvengers, there's always some kind of fucking asterisk even when they should win fair and square by simply being twice as good of a fighter
>>289543579Sandro realized this and retconned that jurota was holding back.
Kengan powerlevels don't mean shit. Eddie was the only man in history who ever gave the Connector an almost decent fight and Raian instantly killed Eddie even when narratively and skill-wise it made zero fucking sense. Raian was already "scaling the wall" at the start of Omega before he even got his hands on LE EPIC 20kg SWORD
>>289540694Off to a good start
>>289542088People do that all the time in Kengan when they're hit.
What if Raian got his hands on a heavier sword
>>289543468Is that guy the new pankrationfag? We needed a new punching bag.
>>289543657He will reach and even higher tier of "he is just like the connector"
>>289541317But they know of Kuroki's existence before, how come that didn't affect them? Or are you saying they are all Kuroki tier now?
>>289543657Not scientifically possible
Thoughts on the arc so far?
>>289543667How about punching a real bag, which I'm sure practitioners of most martial arts have done
>>289543696Head empty
>>289543687>he is under the impression of the sword wallWhen Shen introduces the 40 kg sword that invented principles you'll be sorry
>>289543696>Mukaku fighting Worm assassins.mp4
>>289543696>Dodge to blow>Blow to takedown>Takedown to grappleIs this Okubo's dad?
>>289543696i dont give a single shit about what's going on
>>289543714>the secret to scaling the wall was mastering weapons all alongOf course! If you're strong enough to win even while self-hexing with weapons, the moment you drop the weapon you become literally invincible. Shen is a true monster.
>>289543696SHYEEAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH
>>289543735the other person mistaken for Okubo's ancestor was Mukaku, just saying
>>289541173Love to see it>>289541188>>289541789I'm green and it's cool you are just autistic/mindbroken>>289541193Hahahah what>>289541344Chuuni ass lines
Why didn't Sandro just make it so that the sword weighed 200KG or something? Why only 20KG? Does he not realize how many logic holes this introduces?
>>289543206Jinny you can't afford to become more retarded, stop reading this
>>289543807a 200 kg sword could fight on its own
>>289542673Possibly. He was too strong to win, but then he was trapped in the damn book.
>>289542682A super effective non stab thunder punch is only as effective as a neutral stab rock slide, and less damage on average if you ignore accuracy because of the crit chance. Not that it matters because Julius is clearly a fighting type too so he should just use stab close combat. Agito is clearly using evasion raising moves which are banned in smogon singles anyway.
>>289540755Is Alisa a whore?
>>289543807Sandro skipped over the 'why' swords are supposed to only weigh 2-4kg tops IRL, which is that centrifugal force massively multiplies the force required to swing and to stop swinging a weapon that is too top-heavy. Swords like Guts' Dragon Slayer aren't impossible to lift, they're impossible to swing correctly, impossible to stop and bring up for a follow-up, impossible to control with any degree of precision. It's all leverage; the more weight at the end of your sword, the harder it is to wield properly because all that force multiplies into your grip, either ripping it out of your hands or fucking up your wrists, even if you can easily lift and carry it.Although he also fucked up by having characters somehow struggle to lift a mere 20kg sword. That didn't make sense. It's when you swing something like that you'd notice a serious problem.
>>289543657Why do that when you could make it more unwieldy?
>>289542789amogus
>>289541363Good bit.
>>289541184>Deadly Death Dead Diechuuni-ass name
>>289542875Just like the actual Josh Allen.
>>289540723How many fucking promotions does this goat own?
>>289543971
>>289543997holy fucking pull, there can't be even 20 people on this planet who know about this game
>>289540755Alisa in sexy outfits, my one light in the darkness that is Omega
>>289543856No. Thunder Punch is x2 when Super Effective, Rock Slide is x1.5 when STAB. Both are 75 base power. Stone Edge is the same (100 x 1.5) with a crit chance but less accuracy and no paralysis.
>>289543575Fool! I have all the texture data I need! With this the "camo style" can evolve even further...
>>289544072Snake culo...
>>289540855Formless doesn't get enough shit compared to the Niko style
>>289543891How about his Golden Age sword? Still crazy but it seems usable?
>>289543579No, I think it was before. I think it goes>Ohma v Sumo and Agito v Jurota>timeskip>spider web>Could Rolon have taken him?>assassination attempt
>>289544072You know, Big Boss is actually a Mukaku tier fraud when you think about it.
>>289543455Luohan...
>>289543672
>>289540867>That looked clearly differentDid it?
>>289544060I was thinking of Stone Edge, I always get them confused because I know better than to use physical rock types.
>>289543455Your friend will become a unironic Raian fanboy and you will learn from your sins.
>>289543672It's almost like Sandro only just came up with this shitty concept on the fly and doesn't give a shit about how much this retroactively damages things.
If we're using pokemon terms then we can safely say the worm is team rocket.Who would be the elite four?
>>289541317AAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>289544126there are real swords about that size, mainly used for fighting cavalry or pikemen, but professional doppelsoldners (the guys who used zweihanders like Guts is holding there) received extensive training and conditioning to do so, and as a result earned double the pay over the average mercenary. More elite, more expensive
>>289541184>enriching the dump with relevant SiR lore yet againYou superior specimen.
>>289543891>they're impossible to swing correctly, impossible to stop and bring up for a follow-up, impossible to control with any degree of precisionAs far as real human limits are concerned at least. Superhuman strength and durability should make it feasible.
>>289544411So what you're saying is that there are "higher heights"
>>289543582
>>289544473I'll do Agito vs. Julius once it ends.
>>289540653
Why does Justin get to have "seconds" and what does it mean in context of this tournament
>>289540788Thank you for translating, Kazzy. I don't speak German.
>>289540788I think this is awesome not just because it fits him but because this is his own “fang” developed after the fight with wakatsuki, and it feels a bit inspired by blast core almost like a more controlled version
>>289540788
>>289540855
>>289540891
>>289544411Wouldn't it be more of a weight issue than a strength issue? Like Guts is probably 6'5" and around 400 lbs. But the Dragonslayer once you have some centrifugal force on the end, is just going to be effectively way heavier than his body is.
>>289540914
>>289544473Damn. Look at all those filler panels. And that's just Kazzy making retarded expressions (that are also there to tell readers how they should feel about what they're seeing). It's not even counting all the other forms of filler.How many pages in total do you think there are in the manga that are just these wasted filler panels? Could you fill up multiple volumes worth of the pages with just these reactions alone?
>>289540946
>>289540984
>>289541013
So how exactly does formless disperse damage?
>>289541027
>>289544638It's a bit of both. Guts basically just cheats the system by being superhumanly strong, but his actual fighting style is much like that of real fighting manuals of how to wield a zweihander, which is sweeping motions that convert the momentum of the swung blade into new attacks, moving *with* the momentum like a dance rather than stopping it as you would with a smaller sword to get faster strikes and thrusts. You'll also see him sometimes using his armor and his prosthetic hand to catch the blade, stopping it with more or less his entire weight. See also: Siegfried from Soul Caliber, whose fighting style is also based on real life historical fighting manuals for greatswords like that
>>289541013That is not a dragon shotIt feels like every single part of Agito's arsenal gets its meaning changed as the story goes on for some reason
>>289541038
>>289544722Simple. It has the properties of both RUBBER and GUM.
>>289540873comedically large drinking straw
>>289544638Yeah and a man irl can pull a bus if he's strong enough. So long as he's got super strength in his whole body and not just the arms he should be able to use it fine.
>>289541049
>>289541112
>>289544763
>>289544186>I know better than to use physical rock types.But you don't know better than to use physical electric types?
>>289541134
>>289541157
>>289541146>>289541157>>289541173AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>289541193that's not how anything fucking works
>>289544575if only it did anything
>>289544743Sure, but an IRL greatsword is like 8 lbs being carried by a 200lb man. Guts is 400lbs, but the Dragonslayer is probably almost the same weight or heavier. The balance is all off. Guts could carry the Dragonslayer, but it'd physically pull him around too much when he swung it around. Its like trying to hold down a helicopter or plane. Even if you are Hercules and are strong enough to do it, you're just going to get lifted off the ground.
>>289541308
>>289544820I have "elemental punches have shit bp" memorised to make fun of coverage obsessed noobs.
>>289541193So Nicolas is Julius's worst enemy?
>>289544903
>>289544922
>>289544862>Anon believes that if you throw something really hard but actually hold on to it you'll actually throw yourself alongside it and fly
>>289541308Why can't he lift him?
>>289544948
>>289541344>Alisa sex. Alisex.Well said, "me".
>>289544948>Shagohod
>>289544976
>>289544554Daro buffed her titties and hips in the final product
>>289545000
>>289544307worth noting that doppelsoldners, weren’t all guys with two handed swords but also front row pikemen.
>>289544952Go and swing a sledgehammer around and tell me how it feels. You'll get pulled forwards by the weight. And that is just something that is 8-10 lbs.Now, imagine if that was your body weight.
>>289543696Just went from bad to worseSo far all the fights are one fighter getting their ass beat unilaterally until they can try and either fail or succeed in pulling a HOWEVER, but Agito vs Julius is the worst one so far
>>289545075Forward, not upwards. And assuming super strength applies to his legs and trunk as well that won't be enough to knock him off balance.
>>289541888He didn't because water doesn't have any "nutrients"
>>289540788Alisa looks worried about a wardrobe malfunction
>>289543807It's about "holding down the point of force"
>>289545124Did you really think that I said that if you swung a sword upwards, you could pull yourself off the ground? Do you really think that was what I was saying when I talked about Hercules holding down a helicopter?
>>289545197Then what does that have to do with anything? Of course you won't hold down a helicopter without anchoring to the ground, but that's completely irrelevant to the sword example. If you can hold back a horse or stop a car you can swing the sword without toppling over.
Do you "green" readers see now why so many people miss Luohan whenever he's not around? He's the only source of real fun in this manga.
>>289545259No, that bastard makes me so mad I cry white tears when he's on screen!
>>289545250Centrifugal force makes things feel heavier and gives them inertia to match. The issue isn't Guts being able to hold onto the sword. The issue is his feet leaving the ground because the inertia is greater than the force of gravity pulling him down.
>>289544862For the record a plane needs to be moving to generate lift meaning Hercules could totally hold one down because he'd only be fighting the horizontal pull of the engines, assuming you didn't put soap under his sandals to give him no grip on the ground or something.
>>289545297>The issue is his feet leaving the ground because the inertia is greater than the force of gravity pulling him downLiterally just flex your trunk and legs. By your logic it should be impossible to win a rope pulling contest if the pull you're fighting is greater than the pull of gravity on your weight. In actuality people are not adimensional points and they're not static solids either, and you will (forgive me for saying this) direct the flow of power by shifting your stance so that the pull is neutralised by the push of the ground against your legs.
>>289545297>The issue is his feet leaving the ground because the inertia is greater than the force of gravity pulling him down>Anon thinks people fight by standing straight perpendicular to the ground with their feet together and they're only held in place by their own weightAlso as far as movement goes when being pulled in your made up scenario gravity is only half of it; you can weigh a thousand pounds but if the surface is frictionless you're getting pushed around pretty easily.
>>289544903Daro...
>>289544878Super effective coverage is a meme.Neutral coverage is a huge deal.That's why Mega Lopunny is the best.
>>289543696"green" anon herefeels like a pointless arc with nothing fights where it seems the main goal is to just tell (not show) the viewer that the power scale now all suddenly went up because sandro realized that he made shen too retarded even for the manga where people have super forms, bone blades and prehensile hair
Chat, I actually like Erioh in Ashura and Ashura Zero, are my tastes cooked?
>>289545733erioh is fine when the story knows to treat him as the creepy amoral head of an assassination clan that he objectively is, the issue is just omega trying to pretend he was some sorta wise moral sage that deserved respect
>>289545619Megalop is probably not even a top 5 mega (especially after losing return and frustration) but it's pretty good, yeah. That said, coverage is good if it slots into what you're already doing anyway (like with Nidoking).
>>289545619Mega Lopunny is an objective downgrade in fuckability (but turning a complete shitter into an OU staple is still impressive).>>289545774I find him becoming a caring father and the first Fang charming honestly. I think it's that Ashura was written with awareness that nearly everyone involved was some degree of morally questionable, but Omega tries to bleach that all away.
Maybe the weirdest part about Sandro connecting Kengan to FotS is that he seemingly wants you to forget Cosmo's teacher has a bone breaking fetish.
I didn't know his name was actually Sandrovich until I checked the Kengan Wikipedia pageI thought it was just a silly nickname and his name was Sandro lmao
However...
>>289546376Wait until you learn Daro's full name
>>289545619Coverage is only important if your mon has really good offensive stat/ability to break (or at least punish) a switch in mon that wouldve walled its primary type.
>>289546087He still does but usually contains himselfHe's clearly turned on when he spars with Ohma later
>>289541288Here we are once again
>>289547010That fight was interrupted just when he was about to get serious, right? Why does Sandro forbids me from getting excited? How annoying
>>289547049Usually when he interrupts fights it's because he doesn't want either character to look bad from losing (see: Shen vs Kuroki)
>>289541402he's not even a nutrient
>>289546376>-ович>A masculine patronymic suffix added to a given name ending in a hard (unpalatalized) consonant: son ofMaybe his dad's name is Sandro
>>289541344This is the worst fight in the series its just complete garbage>unexplained formless powerup with 0 difference >kazzy basedjaking every pageSHUT YOUR FUCKING MOUTH>HIGHER HEIGHTS HIGHER HEIGHTS
>>289541103A "second" Kanoh Agito???
>>289547101Sandro is Gilbert
>>289541704Itagaki would spend 5 chapters on the concept and introduce a whole team of behavioral scientists who ens up getting raped by a man who was raised in a sensory deprivation tank with his only repreive being martial arts manga(and thus he has no realistic conception of what's possible or not)
>>289546376>>289547101It's not his real namehttps://note.com/civiltokyo/n/n5920230edfe1?hl=en
We'll get to it soon but the perfect example of Itagaki vs Sandro arw their takes on gaps in consciousness.Itagaki whips it out as a small part of an exciting fight, quotes his sources, cites studies and literature on the subject, and explains the idea far better from secondary witness pov before getting back to the shonen fight.For Sandro it was a schizophrenic gimmick for like 1 fight and then was never mentioned again despite characters having traits that should interface with it(foresight killer, hyperforesight, world's quickest reaction time)
>>289540788>Is he really gonna use it right off the bat?If it's something you "use", it's a technique.
>>289547128>>>unexplained formless powerup with 0 difference
>>289547183>>289547354I foresee "this" becoming a "staple" in our "arsenal".
Objective ranking of the RCT fights so far.>1. TBA>2. TBA>3. Justin vs Hiraku>4. TBA>5. Gaolang vs Jurota>6. TBAIn 17 hours we will find out where this fight stands
>>289547354This man is such a pretentious little hipster cunt.
>>289547377Forgot the last spot>1. TBA>2. TBA>3. Justin vs Hiraku>4. TBA>5. Gaolang vs Jurota>6. TBA>7. TBA
Sandro......
>>289547389no u *raughs stops*
Oh really, Sandro...
>>289547393Oh my fucking god. All those times when I said that Sandro treats Kengan like a 9-to-5 minimum wage worker treats his dead-end job... Turns out I was closer to the mark than I realized!
>>289547354>Sandro, why did Shen start talking about the voice of the earth?
>>289547393>buy product>consume product >"enjoy" product>buy product>consume product>"enjoy" product>buy product
>>289547408With how he describes his work as "products" and not "art", him opportunistically choosing money over quality makes perfect sense.
>Sandro originally wanted to write novelsNitoku...
>>289547482There is a Shen page later that reads like a novel
>>289547393>>289547408>Sandro's not a based retard, he just really is that soullessOh...
>>289547183It's certainly left its impact
>>289547408The "wall" was "scaled", this is no longer an issue *raughs*
>>289547377I liked Kaorota more than Justraku desuJustin and Hiraku are more entertaining characters but their fight itself wasn't as interesting and I actively disliked it moreThis one is worse than both though
>>289547482It makes sense given how Sandro has no sense of visual direction, from constantly having to explain what's happening on the page as if manga itself wasn't a visual medium and making suggestions to Daro that always makes the final draft worse.
>>289547497Sandro's last fan ceased to be, what a "tragedy"
>>289547521Would Omega be better as a novel?
>>289547521I doubt he'd make even a half-decent novelist given how much he repeats things anyway and has zero sense of narrative planning. I don't speak or read Japanese, but I doubt his prose is good either. If you have good prose in one language, then your translator has something to work with to translate that prose to a different language. If you don't even have good prose, then your translator can't do shit. >>289547550No. Unless he somehow magically turns on the ability to do long-term planning and careful plot construction, it won't make a difference.
>>289547594Ok then, how about a movie director? Would he make good movies?
>>289547611God no but please let this happen, it would be so funny.
>>289547611>>289547623He says that he wants to do that too, don't worry!
>>289541064>>289541079I feel like Julius could have broken Agito's arm here.
>>289547627>no matter how busy I am, I make sure to drink alcohol.ha hahaha hhhaaaa hahahahah HahahahhahahahahdhahaahahahahaajjwhajwhahjahahahhhhhjssshHHahhahaahahahhahhaahhah AHAHHAAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>289547627>I put a tremendous amount of thought into drawing mangaI want to punch him in the face so badly
>>289547627>into drawing manga>>drawingNaruhodo
>>289547611I think his issues would magnify tenfold as a movie director. A good director needs a sense of composition and how to correctly frame a scene. Instead of Sandro telling Daro to tone down a good still image on a panel, imagine Sandro telling actors to redo a scene with less expression in their lines and emotions in their facial/body language.
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This interview needs to be posted every time anyone refuses to accept that Sandro spends no more than 5 minutes per week writing each chapter via a stream of consciousness method of scribbling scripts onto toilet paper.The man does not deserve the benefit of the doubt. He really is that scummy.
>>289547706He surely spends more than that, surely...
>>289547611>Sandro directs a movie>the "infection" "spreads" to /tv/, allowing them to "scale" the "wall"
>>289547658>>289547662He never said that he draws manga. Just that he puts a lot of thought into drawing it.He probably astral projects to support Daro in spirit.
>>289541308>Jurota can throw Agito away with just one arm>Julius can't lift him up even with both armsSandro already forgot about "the strongest muscles"
>Yabako: This might be the wrong way to put it, but I really don't care about what people think of me. I used to care in the past, but I've stopped bothering. I figured there's no point in doing things that don't bring any profit or benefit.Totally believe you. All that 4th wall breaking you do via characters to shit on readers? Totally a sign of how you don't give a fuck about what others think about you. You are not insecure at all.
>>289547923Agito scaled the weight wall by spending 12 hours a day training in a donut shopHe's using formless to hold in his beer gut
>>289547939He isn't, he just hates (You)
