why does this happen?
women are more likely to shamelessly buy weird degenerate crap
fujos are actually willing to pay, unlike yurifags
>>289684282Women are the most powerful race in the world. Fact.
>>289684282Fujos actually spend money on the things they like instead of trying to take over 4chan's anime board with constant dogshit posts and generals
yaoi is shrimply way more popular
>>289684282women proving they're the superior gender yet again
>>289684282Men watch porn while women read it. That's why lesbian porn is far more common than gay porn.
>>289684480funny how I barely ever see yaoi threads but yuri threads are everywhere
Eastern fujos learned a long time ago that you catch more flies with honey than with vinegar.They also don't interact with their western counterparts as much since western fujos tend to be batshit insane even by fujos standards.Yurifags in comparison tend to be very angry, annoying, and vocal, and the difference between western yurifags and eastern yurifags is much smaller than the difference between western and eastern fujos.Basically, it all depends on a group's proximity to culture war retardation, the closer you are, the less popular you'll be among actual normal audiences who actually pay for shit.
>>289684282Real women love yaoiFake women love yuriThere are more real women than fake women, do the math
>>289684637fujos are far more well-behaved and keep to themselves (homos can be pretty annoying though)even in Japan other otaku hate yurifags
>>289684282think about it, the genre of "yuri/yaoi" is about sexuality, in other words, romance. And romance is typically read by women.If guys want the kind of yuri they want to read, it would be hentai and thus not part of that bookshelf(even if some feature adult scenes).
>>289684575Then why do they buy works with men in them?Checkmate, radfem
>>289684637I hate to use this as an example, but it's kind of like how in bi-gender gacha games you'll see people talking about how [male character] gets tons of likes and views on social media, but makes absolute dick for money compared to [female character].This makes sense when you realize that a lot of the people posting about shit online are poor third worlders with no money, especially a lot of the women online these days, they tend to gravitate to social media since it's basically free and lets them I retract with groups well outside their typical sphere of influence.
Women spend, men save.
>>289684673Didn't the fujos just recently harass another author off social media? They both suck.
>>289684763I thought the exact same.
>>289684282Men hate women and women also hate women. So who would read a work with only women in it?
>>289684282When a woman buys a manga about boys having gay sex it's just normal, if a man buys a manga about ANYTHING people judge and decide to make it that man's identity. You buy shonen manga? You're a shonenfag, a woman buys the same manga? She just has an interest, whatever. It's social cliche, about judgement being so biased for seemingly no reason, until you actually pay attention and realize there is some truth to it. A woman really doesn't care about shit like this, it's just buying for fun and that's that, a man will buy things to reaffirm whatever identity he designed for himself in his head. Basically, a woman is going to stay a woman even if she's deplorable in every way, and a normal man will never be caught buying gay shit.
>>289684833weren't those western fujos?
>>289684858This doesn't make sense considering how much money men drop on gacha games, which also generally isn't socially acceptable.
>>289684909Emphasis on NORMAL men.
>>289684282Yurifags spend hours a day convincing themselves everything under the sun involving two girls is yuri so that they can avoid buying actual yuri.
>>289684871Different case from months agoJap fujos just harassed Nippon Sangoku's author for telling fans not to send him shipping porn.
BL is just more popular, there aren't as many yuri fans in general
>>289684933I don't think you understand my point.The point is that the opinions of society and normal men do not stop the guys who are into gacha from playing and spending money on gacha, so clearly if it's something guys are actually into they're going to be into it regardless of what society thinks.
>>289684990You have a very confused definition of "normal" work on that then we can talk.
>>289684282Transwomen make up less than 0.5% of the world population
>>289684282Fujos buy stuff
>>289684951facts
>>289684282fujos pay, yuris pirate>>289684622>hasn't seen the deluge of gay furry vns on itch
>>289684637I would assume most yaoifags are on twatter
>>289685057those are for gay furries, not women
>>289685063Most yurifags are also on twatter.Fujos just don't show up on 4chan since it's a site that's like 95% male.
>>289685109I've only ever seen actual fujos show up here for the osomatsu-san threads
>>289684858It's kinda similar to sex toys or pornography/erotica. It's ok for women, it's not ok for men. At least in public's eye.
>>289685146I think I saw one or two in the Elusive Samurai threads, but I dunno if they're still around since some anons tend to react pretty negatively to the gay shota art they post.
>>289685109>4chan is mostly male>littered by yurifags because they are 100% malePretty much yeah
>>289685176I mean I don't really want to see the gay shota artthat's the real problem with omnipandering, you end up seeing stuff you DON'T want to see
>>289684282Straight, bi lesbian women love yaoi which comes with being born as a woman in blood for some reason.Small amount of straight and bi men and even smaller amount of straight, bi, lesbian women like yuri.Do the math.Plus like someone said men who like yuri prefer to support it digitally like I do than showing it on my bookshelf as my precious secret.
>>289685216Thankfully I am both a lolicon and a shotacon, so I'm fine with art of either being fucked.
>>289685218>than showing it on my bookshelf as my precious secret.Coward.
>>289685265I know, nobody in my family knows I like anime and manga, especially yuri kind and it gonna stay that way till they discover my remains and check my computer and accounts.
>>289684282the counterpart to yuri is bara not yaoi
>>289684282Men don't spend money on manga. Women do.
>>289684637Why the fuck would a woman ever use 4chan?
>>289685157
Because love between 2 men is the purest form of love, that's why they have the lowest domestic abuse cases and divorces.
>>289684282Real answer for a bait thread:Yuri fans have unintentionally stifled the genre by pretending the main audience isn't men. This has led to the industry failing to make yuri that appeals to men despite the obvious demand. See Mahoako, Watanare, Murcielago, etc.
>>289685773There's no demand from men, most yuri is literally gender swapped versions of your wishy washy romcoms with no serious plot line. Yaoi just has way better stories.
>>289685109Tons of men, should that not attract the fujos like ants to honey?
>>289684282Yurifags are a vocal minority, I can guarantee you that there are probably more men who read yaoi than yuri.
>yuri is totally for womenvery funny whenever people try this point in japanese yuri discussions people just post pictures of irl yuri events. The movie screenings of Watanare and Kaguya-hime being 90-100% men the most recent examples.
>>289684282because you call BL yaoi because you learned everything you know about Japan from 4chan archives and don't watch new anime
>>289685896BL and yaoi are the same thing tho, bara is different.
>>289684282Fujos bought more I guess. Fujo strong.
>>289684858Because men are constantly performing for other men. Men told other men liking certain things makes them gay or shounenfags or poor or third worlders.
As disgusting as Fujos are, they are far more supportive of what they like than Yurifags.
>>289685773this is cope, btw. yuri is 50/50 men + troons and women while BL is 90/10 men/womenthe real reason is most women are straight and men getting it on is sexy to them while women getting it on is just uninteresting
>>289685690>love between two men>one is obviously the womanPost something actually based like some Samson covers.
>>289684282>YaoifagsTwo men? I buy. Simple as. As long as they stand at a 5km distance on the same room it's yaoi. >Yurifags>A gorillion quintillion buts and ifs and maybes and whens about how it's not "real yuri" and "doesn't count" or because of other crap like "le heckin' male gaze" >They didn't fuck, have a IPS child, and then spend half the volume lecturing the viewer about lesbian relationships? It's not real yuri>Extremely loud, picky and whiny and yet never walks their talkThere's nothing more painful than being a yurifag because you have to deal with the yuri fanbase. Yuri will never truly grow because its biggest enemy are the yurifags themselves.It sucks being the 1% without these retarded, yuritard, as the kids say nowadays, mentalities.
>>289686104
>>289685944not reallyBL is more about stories and such while yaoi is just gay sex with very little plot
>>289686104no one is interested in what actual faggots want or read, retard. alot of fujos are homophobic. even mangaka.
>>289686104Not every man is a hulking bison of meat.
>>289686104Kys
>>289684282Females are degenerate and have money to spend. Also, lesbian porn is fucking boring by nature.
Yaoi actually delivers the goods, it considers the vagina of the audience, Fujos shamelessly self insert or want to be sandwiched by their pretty boys. Yuri by contrast is too afraid of the presence of the reader’s penis, as if that defiles the appeal of the girls, and is therefore usually all bun no burger. Yuri would become more popular if it accepted its reality as male fantasy, or at least hybridized it like the magical girl genre did with male otaku.Fantasy lesbian characters work best for a male audience when they are allowed to adopt, in part, the masculine eros. Without the wandering eye desiring the female form, the intense desire to pursue and possess and become one, all you’re left with is a very childish and safe depiction of love. Two wet-eyed awkward doe-deers blushing and admiring each other’s shampoo smell. What little drama remains tends to be an unwelcome annoyance, made even worse when it’s just “subtext” or “hints”.The penis desires the whore as well as the virgin, most male-focused genres understand this and provide a well constructed synthesis. Yuri trends too far towards the virginal, most suitable for fluffy feelings if any at all.
>>289686104I prefer variety. Give me one of everything.
>yuri is unpopular yuri is popular! we are in the age of yuri!
>>289686478I can't believe Red Alert predicted everything.
>>289684282Women can self insert into hot submissive boys while they get pounded so it appeals to straight women more easily than yuri does for men because a butch lesbian doing the same on the opposite side would just be a boner killer rather than an easier self insert. Straight romance is where men are better served.
Males are innately superior in all fields and more people, even women, would rather watch men then watch foids.
>>289686631My friend said she doesn't read other things because it felt like she's being a cuck, so she only reads gay stuff. (She's unironically a cuck irl)
>>289686405>Yuri would become more popular if it accepted its reality as male fantasy, or at least hybridized it like the magical girl genre did with male otaku.Yea, modern yuri kinda sucks because yurifags seem to hate the fact that they have a penis and get triggered at things like sexualized nudity and horniness.One thing you can't deny about yaoi is that it is EXTREMELY fucking horny; in the time it takes yuri to get to a chaste kiss, yaoi will already be into full on anal fisting.
>>289686631this but unironically, male characters tend to be better than femalesfemales are only useful as eyecandy
>>289684282It's a Germany thing, gomenasai.Well, not only.
>>289686631That's why you read yaoi? Interesting reason.
>>289684637That's the point. Yurifags only exist on the Internet.
>>289686611I can look past that, but it is an obstacle for sure. This is why the ideal yuri to me exists between heroines in a male MC’s harem. The wives getting along and loving on each other, romantically and sexually, but still wanting to come to “literally you” for complete gratification, free from jealousy because they desire each other as well.
>reading yaoi because the boys are cute somehow isn't a good enough reason in 2026Why is everyone fucking insane?
>>289686847We can't just enjoy things we have to fight about it apparently.
>>289684637Yuri anime is way more popular. Yaoi anime barely exists while Yuri is everywhere now.But women read way more smut than men.
women are too stupid to pirate
>>289686680That's because most of yuri is read by porn brained sexless AGP troons.
>>289684282You see that is a shop for female audience.Yuri fans are more likely to get excited from another woman bending over. The owner has thought of everything.
>>289685536>Men don't spend money on manga.Speak for yourself, I spend plenty on manga.I'm just not into yuri.
>>289686887I wonder how many comments like this are bots.
>>28968688390% of those those "yuri" shows are yuri bait.
>>289686920They're third worlders, who are functionally identical to bots.
>>289686729A real man's man
>>289686929Yuri bait is a cope term invented by Yuri haters.
>>289686929Beggars, choosers, death-threat boogeymen etc
>>289686956Go consoom shows which don't even have yuri instead of supporting actual yuri series.
Yuri bait is just boring/frustrating. Either give me a CGDCT sexless heartboner show where I don’t have to want for more or a horny show where hot girls want to FUCK each other as much as I’d want to fuck them, and pursue that goal actively, ideally succeeding.
>>289686929Still Yuri and it's in everything now including biggest gacha games making more money than Star Wars or Marvel. Women read 10x more cheap novels than men it was always like this. And that's the only place where yaoi is more popular.
>>289687034Funny that yaoi still makes more money.
Yaoi appeals to all women, from rich first worlders to poor thirdies.Yuri appeals to a tiny niche of poor women, and a lot of broke thirdies who just pirates shit instead anyway
>>289687005You are starting to show your real colours.
>>289687071You forgot it also appeals to troons.
>>289687064In your dreams. Yume shit makes way more than yaoi and yuri destroys both.
Yaoi fujos actually watch and read yaoi because they just like yaoi.For yurifags, yuri is more like a cult they're in, where they constantly go out and try to recruit, which is why they spend far more time consuming non-yuri instead of just watching and reading yuri.>No, see, this property you're into is actually yuri, so you're part of our collective now, you will be assimilated!
>>289687034>ZzzOh yeah, the game that had yuri shit for the blonde and black haired idol girl, only for them to go full dick craving for the male mc in the game and you fuck both of them (separately) in a love hotel during dates?This time it'll be different sis!
>>289687100Yuribro.......
Here comes the bot spam from seething fujo LOL. You are irrelevant. Genshin lesbians alone made more money this year than all fujo shit combined over last decade.
>>289687163Uh oh melty
>>289687161>>289687191Manga physical sales and AI answer. Holy fucking shit. Just stop.
>>289687107I agree that it's a cult, but the common theme among them seems to be an intense resentment towards gays, straight guys and bisexuals in real life. Any community I see them in, they don't want to coexist, they want to chase out everyone else, and it's always about how straight guys are cuckolds or some cringe shit. It's all so angry and spiteful. Completely different from old school yurifags who just enjoyed jerking it to cute girls x2
Is this the early yaoi thread
>>289687214Google takes its sources from actual stats instead of feelings.
>>289687161Go to any site selling anime and game merch you won't see yaoi crap in top20 anywhere. It's almost all gacha and vtubers.
Yuri is available through more mediums while BL isn't due to the filter of men having sex so since there's less opportunities to spend it on things like figures, games, anime, merchandise, etc. it gets filtered into buying more books, making their own merchandise, holding their own events. Bl series also tend to be either short or not Japanese, people follow authors rather than one or two storiesIts shouldn't be that much of a difference but yuri/waifu gacha probably has yurifags in a chokehold.
>>289686883it's because a lot of modern yuri is just an evolution of cgdct, which appeals to waifufags who just want to look at cute girls and the (much smaller) "true" yuri fan base. You can tell by the merch.
>>289687071>>289687099Personally, I’m neither a poor woman, a thirdie, or a troon. I wanted to see naked women on the internet as a boy and not see naked men, and that led to exclusively watching lesbian porn and reading lesbian fanfiction for the first three years of my sexual awakening. The interest persists (though no longer as primary), my gratification is tied to giving the girl gratification, and I’m more into giving head than most men, but otherwise I turned out as normal straight dude as I could have hoped.
>>289684282Smut lit is female dominated in general. Men would rather jerk off for 5 minutes then go about the rest of their day.
>>289687273Almost as if the comparison is between yuri and yaoi.
>>289687255Retarded AI reading outdated articles and taking decades old numbers. Now go to AmiAmi and tell me how much yaoi you see in current charts.
>>289687034>>289687163>yuri is more popular because these ML gachas with 1% yuribait makes a lot of money!!!do yurisissies really
>>28968730890% of gacha and vtubers Yuribait. Like all of Hololive or Hoyo.
no one actually likes lesbians at all
>>289687323Post some stats lil bro, it's universally known that yuri is peanuts infront of yaoi in terms of revenue and sales. Go jerk off to your yuri bait crap.
yaoi fans>30% gays/bi, 70% women>Enjoys other stuff as wellyuri fans>40% men, 50% "women" and 10% women>Incapable of enjoying or tolerating other thingsThere's a reason why people can at least respect yaoi fans but don't want yuri fans anywhere near their community, not too unlike how shotafags have a good reputation while lolifags can be a mixed bag
>>289687284This is reality unfortunately. Yuri is much more pervasive as a small element rather than the focus.
>>289687284Watanare is another one that managed to crack the code.
>>289687349>Yuri>YuribaitMy fault I was arguing with a retard.
>>289687326ML gachas are mostly flops. Hoyo is called mihomo for a reason.
>>289687354Lesbos talk more about men than women.
>>289687383By your logic 99% yaoi is bait too. Show me those popular yaoi series that go beyond subtext.
>>289684282Women buy books WAY more than men do, and women tend to prefer yaoi over yuri.
>>289687305That mostly applies to written stuff, smut aimed at guys is still pretty common and fairly popular in manga, it's just that guys tend to want other stuff alongside their smut, so it's usually attached to an action or adventure series, it's why you see so much smut also tied into isekai, even in LN/WN form.
>>289687361I like other things, I just don’t want dicks in my yuri stories. Straight stuff is great.
>>289687323BL manga sells like crazy and that's without anime adaptations. like this random femboy BL has sold 3.6 million copies with 6 volumes.
>muh yuribait LMAO yaoi literally doesn't exist beyond bait. 99% of most popular yaoi ships these days are from generic shonenshit. Those never go beyond delusions and bait.
>>289687361I think yurifags and lolifags have kind of the same issue, speaking as a lolifag.A lot of people in both groups tend to get very defensive about what they like, the former because they don't want to be seen as gay/soft, the latter because they don't want to be called a pedo or they live in a country where loli can literally get you vanned (like the UK or Australia).Because of this, they tend to come off as extremely vocal and annoying to anyone who does not share their fetish.
>>289686405This is 100% true, but for many, the appeal of Yuri is purity. For some, that is the complete and total absence of men, for others it is defiling the purity.
>>289687533Women read more shitty smut. This crap never gets adaptations because everybody knows it would flop. They tried in the past it never worked.
Personally I see a lot more people complaining about yurifags or being anti-yuri than I see annoying yurifags. Most annoying yurifags I see are annoying not because they like yuri but because they are very invested in the lgbtq culture war. People who are otaku more than they are “woke” tend to be chill as long as you aren’t actively antagonizing them.
>>289687468A lot of fujos want more of that type, but bl is too much of a filter for "normal" series to commit to. With Slave Harem, you get men and an odd amount of women. With bl, you get fujos, three gay dudes, and yume that genderbend everything and do nothing but complain about how female characters not getting fucked is evil.
