Volume 61Uchiha Brothers United FrontChapter 579: Uchiha Brothers United Fronthttps://desuarchive.org/a/thread/274143504Previous thread:>>289630243
B&W
>>289688623Is Naruto actually about to pop the bubble? Perspective suggests that it should be impossible.
>>289688849Kabuto's probably the strongest a character can be with being born into a special clan or with a kekkei genkai, but does he really count with how many special abilities he had to steal? Either way, it's fitting. Though the Sage Mode comes a bit out of nowhere.
>>289688743>K-Karin is related to Naruto!? Suddenly I'm interested in her...
>>289688849Is Kabuto Perfect Sage Mode better than Naruto Perfect Sage Mode?
>>289688743So does Naruto not having the red hair mean he doesn't innately have their strong life force and it all still comes from Kurama?
>>289688682Susans are so lame
>>289689002Even without Kurama he has unnatural amount of chakra. And chakra basically means life force in the Narutoverse.
>>289688623That frog lamp is cool
>>289688770>Trained under the Snake Sage for like 6 months at best>Already surpassed Orochimaru
>>289689002Nah his genetics just fumbled when it came to hair. Tsunade is also part Uzumaki.
>>289688715>"Stop trying to be witty, Sasuke"
Done!
>>289688909The fact that he was able to steal them is extremely impressive. Much better than that fraud the "Copy Ninja Kakashi" who copied... a few suiton jutsu from Hidden Mist and a couple of doton jutsu.
>>289688682Why is Itachis Susanoo still imperfect?
>>289689002I don't think the hair has much to do with it, but I think his chakra reserves can still be attributed to being Uzumaki. Still, Hagoromo later on describes Naruto as not having inherited either of his parents' talents or powers, but that was during the whole "you and Sasuke are reincarnations of Ashura and Indra, and like you Ashura didn't have any powers" reveal, so who knows.
>>289688729Susanoo is too old he needs crutches to walk
>>289688967>Is Kabuto Perfect Sage Mode better than Naruto Perfect Sage Mode?He doesn't seem to need to stand still to gather natural energy. His sensing might not be as good; Sage Naruto is on Karin's level or higher. His physical abilities may not be quite as boosted, but he acquired some very powerful sage jutsu that Naruto doesn't have.
>>289688682What's Itachi's problem? Sasuke didn't even do anything.
>>289689002Naruto doesn't die instantly when Kurama gets extracted so he seems to have his mom's life force.
>>289688715Too much yapping. And why does he bring up the bingo book out of nowhere? When was even the last time those were mentioned?
>>289689158He doesn't need the v4 form since he's not going to use Totsuka. Sasuke and Madara also frequently use lower levels of Susano'o, even though Edo Tensei Madara doesn't have to worry about chakra drain or side effects.
>>289688743Wait, THIS is how that's revealed?
>>289688770That's one motherfucking long snake
>>289689188Sasuke cut through two of the snakes. Itachi is holding way back to the point of not even wanting to hit Kabuto with shuriken.
>>289688743>>289689008Omfg why does he keep drawing that gloss on Karin's lip like that. It looks more like a wart or something.
>>289688729Nah, Kabuto should be fucking unbeatable with this.>>289688743>Karin jaw mogging NagatoIt's over...
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>>289688890Wow anon you're so smart.
Kabuto could have been the strongest if he implanted the DNA of people like Hashirama or Madara into himself instead of jobbers like Taka and the Sound Four
Can they shut the fuck up for a minute with this pointless shit and just fight?You can tell Kishi felt awkward about randomly making Kabuto the strongest character in the world, so he has him talking for hours about all the shit he Akshually did offscreen to become strong.
>>289688752Of course Gary StuTachi knows everything he can never be surprised or ignorant of everything
>>289689341At least I'm smarter than Sakura, who is yelling at Naruto about it.
>>289688849>WHITE EXTREME ATTACK
>>289688623Haha that Kurama is such a loveable goof
>>289688814>>289688834>if Orochimaru took Kabuto's body during the SRA instead of that literal who prisoner he would've had sage mode in part 2
>>289689049>draw stands/mechas>call them jutsus>the degree of control and power limitations are literally whatever kishi wants them to be at the moment>never fucking explained how the eyes give these fucking stands, the only connection is via naming susanoo creation myth and the sharingan eye moves (amaterasu/tsukuyomi/etc)I fucking hate them.
>>289689353He actually does have Hashirama cells but not enough to use Mokuton. I think he was planning to take Sasuke's body to get the perfect Uchiha. When you try to copy Uchiha powers without the full Uchiha body you get a second-rate specimen like Shin.
>>289688715>>289689231>4 years and 1 resurrection later and kabuto is still seething about some genin ranking booklmaoooooooooo
>>289689356>You can tell Kishi felt awkward about randomly making Kabuto the strongest character in the world, so he has him talking for hours about all the shit he Akshually did offscreen to become strong.He is fighting Itachi and Sasuke at the same time so he needs to be way way stronger than the Sannin.
>>289688849The Alpha of Awe. The Brute of Brawn. The Cultivator of Class. The Duke of Domination. The Emperor of Eloquence. The Fiercest of Fighters. The Greatest of Glory. The Height of Heroism. The Imperator of Intellectualism. The Jarl of Justice. The King of Knights. The Lord of Loquaciousness. The Master of Mortality. The Naysayer of Noobs. The Overlord of Obituaries. The Prince of Passion. The Que-hagen of Quixote. The Ruler of Ruination. The Sultan of Smite. The Taskmaster of Trembles. The Undertaker of Ubiquity. The Vaeyen of Vociferousness. The Warranter of Weaklings. The Xenophobe of Xenogeny. The Yardmaster of Yesteryear. The Zhar of Zoroastrianism.ENTER, DRAGON SAGE KABUTO!!
>>289688770>A smoking snakeNinja Brazil must have went to war at the time.
>>289688909He's the ultimate hard worker in a world full of nepo babies.
>>289688715>>289688729Yea I agree with the anon from the other thread, Sasuke really feels like he's Naruto levels of retarded now for some reason
>>289688849FUCK my hero's spirit DWELLS within him
>>289688849>>289688862>>289689105>>289689115Arigatou, OP!
>>289688770Why would a snake chill in a giant chair all day
>>289689065>UnnaturalNo he doesn't, at best he'd have an above average chakra reserves without Kurama, like say, Boruto who can use a few Shadow clones but nothing actually abnormal.
>>289688967>>289689169Too bad we don't get to see sage mode buffed Kabuto precision chakra hand knives, would have been kino fights.
>>289689520In fairness to Sasuke, he knows Kabuto pretty well and he already handled Orochimaru. Kabuto getting several times more powerful is a shock. This is the character that Naruto already embarrassed twice.
Naruto should have been a redhead as per Uzumaki and a cute girl like Kushina.
>>289688849>I SHED MY SKIN AND I'M A DWAGON!!!! This probably sounded cooler in his head. Still not as bad as Sasuke going "I'LL CHANGE FANTASY INTO REALITY!!!!" though.
>>289689415Kabuto's regular body probably couldn't handle that either.
>>289688849>FUCK YOU I'M A DRAGON
>>289688670>>289688682i don't get where this fight is taking place. it goes from a bright cave to a dark cave, and in the previous thread they're outside yet itachi punches a hole in a wall and the background is... a cave? >>289630447
>>289688752This is why people say there's a slug Sage Mode too.
>>289689704It skipped a transition. Itachi ran into a cave and punched a wall at its far side while Sasuke was delayed by the crows.
Orochimaru is so garbage. Kabuto out here playing around edo fucking Itachi and Sasuke in base snake form, countering genjutsu.Perhaps hooded Kabuto can be high Kage
>>289689710It's heavily implied, and seeing as how Hashirama has another variety of Sage Mode and he is Tsunade's grandfather, it's probably what he uses.
>>289688834Of course Itachi knows about Sage Mode.
Watched a few 'reaction video mashups' from groups of people watching the series for the first time. Stuff like Madara vs Shinobi Alliance and his meteor(s) and Killer Bee beating the shit out of Sasuke.. I never really understood the appeal before but it's surprisingly fun watching people go crazy over the hype moments.
>>289689764Kabuto is already transitioning into Sage Mode from the start of the chapter. That's how the snake got bigger instantly.
>>289689776That's more likely than some saying Hashirama invented his own Sage Mode or something.
>>289688648He's shy :3
This fight was always so weird to me, especially when people try powerscaling with it>Itachi is holding back to not kill Kabuto >also has to protect Sasuke>Kabuto doesn't want to kill either of them as well
>>289688682Man the manga really is devolving into mecha spam
>>289688659Dr. Snakes.
>>289688956Lmao
>>289689876Also Itachi doesn't have to worry about fatal damage so long as Sasuke can protect him until he recovers, and he's not above taking a hit to bait Kabuto into making a mistake.
>>289689776This theory really makes an autist browsing this daily seethe kek
>>289688770I really like this snake's design. I wanna see the elder Katsuyu since all of the summons seem to have one.
>>289690040There is only one Katsuyu. We see 10% of it at most from any one summoning.
>>289689796>Watched a few 'reaction video mashups'You're subhuman.
>>289690089Haha I can't help it! I just enjoyed seeing people enjoy the series that I enjoy! Seeing people be happy is nice :)
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>>289689423Yes, Kishimoto is a hack and just draws/comes up with things that look and sound cool to him. This has been true since forever, only difference is during this arc he no longer has any restraint or care for consistency.
https://desuarchive.org/a/thread/282986493/#282986493
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>>289689423Also that you apparently don't really need the eyes after unlocking them. Madara is able to use both Susano'o and the Rinnegan's Gakido Path blind (but needs the eye for Limbo for reasons).
>>289690419Interesting premise. Sasuke should have had two wives.
>>289689262I remembered it being Tobi who told him about Karin, guess not
>>289689520It's because Itachi is there, and Itachi is ALWAYS the smartest person in the room and is almost never ignorant nor caught off-guard by anything. If both were cautious, observant, and intelligent in their approach, we wouldn't have these moments where Kabuto is shown to be extremely durable and impervious to attacks, so Sasuke has to be the dumb fuck that would charge headfirst.
>>289689090Nardo became better than Jiraiya in like 6 days
>>289690419Unironically, there's no similarities between them besides the glasses and the hair being inked black.
>>289690464Pretty sure that's just "it's Madara, ain't gotta explain shit".
>>289690039Since when?
Sakura Uchiha. A lot of potentialhttps://files.catbox.moe/2k8m9e.png
>Unironically, there's no similarities between them besides the glasses and the hair being inked black.
Sex with Shino!
>>289690660Cool, much better then.
>>289690646>there's no similarities besides them looking incredibly similar
>>289691132She should have been a vessel for Kaguya something. Imagine Obito having to help fight loli god Rin
>>289691132quick translation for speech bubble:>Kakashi's cock inside of->-o be pounded by it>take me roughl-my japanese is a little rusty but I believe this is an accurate translation!
>>289688770Boruto's series should have leaned into the esoteric animals not... well you know what
>>289691027>>289690810>They are similar based on one characteristicAt this rate, you may as well say Hinata looks like Sarada if not for her hair's shining highlights.
>>289691027Do you also believe Sai and Sasuke look identical because Kishimoto had his character say so?
>>289688682Susanoo more like Susansnooze cause it’s such a boring ass power up
>>289688695This whole time Kabuto was just 3 snakes in a trenchcoat.
>>289688849Would be cooler without the glasses
>>289689764>Itachi in the same tier as the guy he effortlessly oneshotted
>>289690810>Sasukek with DSL
>>289690415?
>>289690419Kishi has same face syndrome
>>289688659>You've study a lotIESLB
imagine defending this manga as a woman
>>289692344but it's just like real life? all the women are retarded.
Kabuto combining all these different abilities always made him such a cool character. Which of course meant he had to be defeated by more Uchihawank.
>>289692404not even a creative one. another genjutsu reality manipulation crap ability that they needed for this specific situation from Saint Itachihe's delivering final judgement on Kabuto like Shikamaru did with Hidan.. it's really weird
This would have fixed everything.
>>289688770This mf is just vibing smoking from his pipe while a deranged mama's boy who wants to be a pedo's body double begs his favor
>>289689092>can liquefy himself>can regen>perfect sage modeKAGE++++ tier
>>289692530Explain faggot
>>289688849So growing out some horns makes him a dragon instead of a snake?
>>289692530Why would Sasuke and Hinata get together?Would she just pine quietly for him instead?
>>289692676Two clans with eye powers , one got completely wiped out the other is in full circulation. Hey here is a good idea lets get the survivor of that one clan with eye powers to repopulate with the other clan with wye powers.
>>289692676you know whyhe needs to fight Neji
>>289692654it's a metaphor
>>289692770That makes more sense, I thought he was being literal
>>289692752It's still fucking weird how the Hyuugas basically got fuckall aside from having the same eyes as the ayys, but without any of the extra special abilities like the bones.
>>289692839all the Madaras and Itachis were born as the slave branch
>>289690084>>289690040From what we learned there is a forest filled with healing slugs that Tsunade supposedly trained in to equip katsuyu.We dont see sakura train in that environment or shizune why idk ? But this was brought up in part 1
>>289692899>any prodigy in the slave branch can get killed via brain death with a single handsignIt's tough being a Hyuga.
>>289692899Is this the official explanation? Because it does make some sense, all of them have Rinnegans not as their main two eyes that I remember
>>289692741Didnt kishi confirm that hyuga x uchiha meant a child would have one eye with a byakugan and the other with a sharingan?? Meaning no ms would be achievable?? So no curse of hatred.Either way the hyuga have that seal swastika parch on their foreheads to destroy a persons eyes once they are dead.
>>289692945That's still a better deal than Uchihas actively massacring each other back in the day just for power.
>>289693036>Didnt kishi confirm that hyuga x uchiha meant a child would have one eye with a byakugan and the other with a sharingan?? Meaning no ms would be achievable?? So no curse of hatred.The MS power would probably be focused into one eye.
>>289692676SasuHina could work in Vegeta X Bulma way (not set up but they ended up being a good couple anyway), Unfortunately Kishi hates women too much to pull that off.
>>289691594Which also doesn't even make sense as an ocular ability, unlike Tuskiyomi, Amaterasu, and Kamui. Of course, neither do the vast majority of the Rinnegan's abilities save for the shared vision thing.
>>289693035Kabuto's 5 Headed Snake Technique...!? Our heroes are in some real trouble...!
>>289688834>>289688849>>289688770so every possible summoneable ally has a sage related mode? Is there a dog sage mode?
>>289693554Nope, just frogs, snakes, and slugs. Monkeys would make sense since Son Goku calls himself a a sage king, but there's no sign of the other monkeys or the Sarutobi clan having it.
>>289693554yeah but only males can do sage mode
>>289688743>>289690495Karin!
>>289693554Sage mode is absorbing and controlling nature energy. Realistically someone can learn how on their own but, due to the difficulty, guidance from a sage is nearly essential to avoid death.
>>289688743>a page of useless information that is filled with reused panelsLazymoto ...
>>289693601Hiruzen can canonically use sage mode
>>289693764>Realistically someone can learn how on their ownHashirama
>>289689764>Tenten in the same tier as the guy she effortlessly oneshotted
>>289689764These are always lame
>>289693035Whats happening to them.
>>289689115thanks op
>>289689764>fat pig in kage tier because he grew wingsgetting harder and harder to take this list seriously when every time I look there's a joke
>>289694362Chouji would beat Rasa.
>>289694277They are being attacked by the hattifnattarsVile creatures they are
>>289694598Based and Mummin pilled
>>289694277Boys and girls have different parts so when a boy and a girl like each other they ..
>>289694362Fat pig in question wrestled with a 7/9 gedo statue
>>289694987They what? Exchange jutsu? practice throwing shuriken together? Work on their chakra control?
>>289688648>puts hoodie on>ugh our weakness! without direct eye contact our hacks are useless! whatever can we do against this techniques Itachi?!
>good job slytherin... good job .. HOWEVER
>>289693035part 3 sakura genuinely looks so nastynot even srue why
>>289695507I much prefer it to her part 2 look. Her hair's so shaggy and the way she parts her hair does her no favors. It's like this weird triangular broom shape and it's just hideous.
>>289695265>...Foolish little brother. People live according to their own realities.. We all live inside our own fantasies... Your reality of Kabuto's hoodie blocking genjutsu might be an illusion, but my truth is real. I changed the signposts on your path of fate with my ocular jutsu.
>>289689341That's fake
>>289695603SOLO GOD
>>289695577>>289695507Long hair killed it for me.
>>289688715Ironic coming from the guy who stole most of his kit>Raikiri>Curse mark>Orochimaru's powers>Amaterasu(?)>Itachi's eyesAlso sharaingan here BTFO the byakugan yet again
>>289688770I like the snek actually appeared in the Boruto anime.
>>289695670holy shit
>>289695507You are gay.
>>289695670tied hair is better
Wifeyuya chappy soon
>>289689090That's GODbuto for you.
>>289695824Sasuke is oblivious and has 0 situational awareness.
>>289695670The cutting long hair cliche sucks.
>>289695824Not really? Those pillars aren't that thick for the chakra sensing to be on Byakugan level.If anything, Sasuke not noticing the other chakra signatures around the cave is a point on the byakugan's favor.
>>289688849ENTER
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>>289695670Wow she looks amazing with her long hair
>>289696192kek I forgot about this completely
>>289689764based list as always
>>289695994she could solo Madara
>>289696192Sometimes you just have to King like Kong
>>289693269Kishimoto thinks Sasuke pairing up with anyone is bad but needing to have child demanded he choose someone and Karin was just a pervert so he chose Sakura. Hinata and Sasuke would have never worked. Vegeta x Bulma was garbage in the manga. It only works thanks to Trunks.
>>289688849It feels weird to think that this is the "ninja info cards" guy.He doesn't even resemble himself anymore.
>>289696347he was a spy that entered the Chunin exams WITH HIS REAL NAME 8 times and failed on purpose... now that is a fucking Ninja
>>289696347>He doesn't even resemble himself anymore.Isn't that his whole upcoming backstory?
>>289688770this fucking snake looks so comfy.reminds me of konan chilling on that chair
>>289696347>It feels weirdu sound sad...
are the 4 episodes even real
>>289696538Maybe in your illusion... But my truth is real
>>289696393>Kills and steals the identity of an ANBU to watch the fights>Heals Hinata>Teases Kakashi>LeavesSomeone stop that madman
>>289690084That's lame.
>>289688648>>289695265Could Kiba beat the solo king by keeping his eyes closed and using his nose to see?
>>289696585God damn it Itachi stop fucking around and release the episodes already
>>289688682I HATE THE UCHIHA STYLE
>>289689450I thought he was talking about the bingo book Sai gave them
>>289696538They never were
>>289696759Your first mistake is thinking ocular jutsu is limited to sight.
>>289693979>Hiruzen can canonically use sage mode
>>289689090Considering how long Naruto trained for sage mode it's not surprising
>>289697303>because of his unmatched knowledge, mastery, and understanding of every single jutsu and combat style within the Leaf he's called "The Professor">sage mode is a jutsu within the leaf>Hiruzen canonically knows sage modeCheckmate
>>289697356Yeah. It's just funny to see a villain benefit from the rapid power growth that usually only the protagonists get. Madara had a more modest power growth rate in his youth and then he spent decades preparing for his big return. Practically the only villains to do that are, well, Kabuto and Obito. Fitting I guess.
>>289697401does someone have that image of Madara and/or Obito etc. facing Hiruzen and he says, "You are in Konoha" and has the Rinnegan and Sharingan?
Why are Madara and Hashirama so op anyway? The main argument is that they grew up during wars, but there are plenty of other characters who grew up and fought in war. The sanin went through 2 world wars and all 3 of them are jobbers in part 2. Kakashi went through a world war at a very young age and he stays a jonin shitter for most of his life.
>>289696192>>289696223>>289696312Apparently Itachi calls him "Hebi Hakase" so "Doctor Snakes" or "Snake Professor" is actually a good translation.
I’m still catching up to the daily threads. This entire arc is pretty crazy just back to back shit happening. I heard people disliked it and was wondering why?
>>289697684Haters gonna hate
>>289696330They both have something in common that they like.
>>289688770>>289688752You'd think there would be more sage users than a cumulative what, 5 people? >naruto>jiraiya >minato>kabuto>hashirama(?)I get it's apparently incredibly difficult so people can spend a lifetime of training to have an imperfect form (Naruto mastered this in a week btw), but why are there 0 slug sages? I know some people think Hashirama is one but it's never been confirmed. Why didn't they at least make Tsunade one? Isn't she called the Slug Princess? Jesus Christ give her something.
>>289697566At least for the Uchiha, Tobirama explains later that the they get stronger the more love, and therefore hate, they feel. And nobody loved and hated the Leaf more than Madara. Hashirama is only this strong because Madara was made to be obscenely strong, so Hashirama would have to be scaled up to match him. I don't think we get an explanation, so Hashirama might as well just be a genetic freak.
>>289697739No, white as snow
>>289697799>Jesus Christ give her somethinghe gave her those HUGE FUCKING TITS
>>289697822Kill it with fire
>>289696330>Vegeta x Bulma was garbage in the manga. You say that like the anime did them any favors.
How Solo King vs Madara would go?
>>289697799One of the prerequisites is you need a large chakra pool, so most people aren't even capable, like Kakashi. Tsunade gets her seal, which somehow got tied to the Slugs since Sakura wasn't able to summon any slugs until she achieved her own seal, so I guess that's your sage mode for the slugs. Doesn't make sense though.
>>289697684I liked it well enough. Don't remember it being particularly disliked (maybe my brain just automatically ignored any whining lol)
>>289697888Somehow I expect that Madara would be able to handle Izanami.
>>289697912And what about the insta-win sealing blade?
>>289697888totsuka bladegg no re
>>289697888Totsuka blade is just way too OP imo
>>289697799My brother in christ, if Tsunade had Sage mode on top of Byakugou she'd be too broken for a supporting character outside of Team 7.She's strong enough to break through susan and erase half of Madara's body with a punch, you do not want Naruto to be upstaged this point, specially not by a woman in Kishi's case.
>>289697964Yeah, Tsunade would have to have an imperfect Sage Mode like Jiraiya and Orochimaru, and it would have to be explained why she didn't use it before. Otherwise you end up with the bullshit Minato got.
>>289697964>>289698012This can still happen because the hack added lore to shinchoku forest.
>>289698080She's not gonna get it. Maybe Sarada, some day.
>>289698116Sarada Who is sarada.
>>289698080When?
>>289698012How is Minato having sage mode so bad? He had zero time to meditate in the 9 tails attack and never figured the shadow clone tech like Naruto.
>>289697799Sage Mode trivializes most of Naruto's problems and makes him competent in the battlefield thru merit. Kishimoto will have to come up with obstacles the characters can't overcome with sage mode or make teamwork seem obsolete.
>>289697799>>289693554Would it have been cool if Kiba had some werewolf type of sage mode?
>>289688849Kabuto is my GOATThe champion of the clanless, a true shinobi
>>289698226He just whips it out against Madara, without a lengthy period of being still, in the same supposedly perfect level as Naruto, and then next chapter it's retconned that he sucks at it and that's why he never used it before in battle.
>>289698226Minato having sage mode and perfect control over the 9-tails made him way too much of a Gary Stu. Minato is incredibly lame in the war.
>>289698288>Kiba>cool
>>289698331Hashirama having it was one thing but Minato also having it felt like an extra layer of BS in the BS that was the war.
>>289698420Hashirama should have been shown using it much earlier in the VOTE battle. That would have been more balanced.
>>289696330>>289697862Vegeta and Bulma was perfect because they were 100% the type to have a fucked up one-night-stand accident.
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>>289697888villain itachi, you were so cool; unlike your twin, retcon itachi.
>>289698489Wait a second.>illusion themed>overpowered>writer's pet>revealed to have been living a lieItachi is reverse Aizen.
>>289698331It made him cool as fuck in the ninja storm games though
>>289698335Anon didn't call Kiba himself cool.
>>289698527>There's a reason he did what he did, the world is fucked up and he responded to that>He's still evil though, and rightfully hated by the main characters, but they understand him on some level and are willing to work with him to fight a greater threat for a one-off duo fight.Aizen is what Kishimoto should have done with Itachi. The framework is already there. Just don't have the good guys and especially Sasuke suck him off as some saint
>>289698480>DatabooksKishi 100% didn't write this.
>>289698288Inuzuka clan dogs are a separate thing from the summon-oriented ninja hounds like Kakashi uses. that's why Pakkun and his gang can talk whilst Akamaru is functionally just a dog. that has me thinking if there are any fox familiars, and what they think of Kurama
>>289698858Kiba's mom's dog talks though, Akamaru is just retarded.
>>289697356>>289690575Naruto at least had multi shadow clone jutsu hax to justify it. Kabuto is just a guy
I always really liked this fight, I don't think the anime did it justice.
>>289688682this is the second time he's drawn Anko in frame in that position. is this supposed to be fanservice? she looks like she's dead
>>289697684There's plenty to complain about the Kage Summit and War Arcs but these threads are peak glass half empty thinking and looking for even the smallest reason to complain about anything. They shouldn't be taken as an accurate reflection of Naruto's quality.
>>289699049It's one of the better fights in the war, for sure.
>>289699093Nah. Naruto is just genuinely bad and Kishi is a shit writer. Just look at Samurai Squid.
>>289692548>hissnake sage is female
>>289698650No but he wrote this so i stand corrected
>>289693632I prefer toad sage Sakura, because of the gap moe caused by a girl having to train with and like a frog
>>289698885isn't that filler?
>>289696609maybe there was an aborted arc about Orochimaru wanting to kidnap Hinata for her byakugan, so needed her alive.
>>289688967>>289689169>>289689604The way I see it, Naruto Sage Mode is superior when it comes to raw power (beating up nine tails, throwing giant rhino in space, even RasenShuriken would count as insane raw power output), possibly sensing, but Kabuto's sage mode is a lot more vicious when it comes to having weird techniques, manipulating the landscape and creating weird constructs.Given these two things I'd say Sage Naruto and Kabuto would be about equal, except Kabuto ALSO doped himself with other abilities like Suigetsu, Karin and Juugo which puts him above Sageruto and even above Edo Itachi.
>>289696446Yeah, that's the point. Which would be a rare good writing moment from Kishimoto.>>289688834>>289689785I hate Itachi knowing about SM. Makes zero sense.
>>289698331Same for me, I loved pre war Minato as this minmax guy who was very very deadly with one jutsu he pushed to the limit and made work despite not being a walking nuke, just cutting people's throats with kunai. But then he turned into Naruto who teleports
>>289699321Yeah, he's above even Edo Tensei Nagato and level with Tobi. Nagato has more power but Kabuto counters all of his abilities; Shinra Tensei and Chibaku Tensei won't work and he is unlikely to get soul-ripped considering his chakra level and all of the things he can do against it. And he has top level sound genjutsu too.
>>289699266No
>>289689764Edo Itachi is about to get downgraded a little after being slapped around by Kabuto.
>>289699305That's what the rumours say, but it's more than likely Kishi just didn't want most of the genin to be active during konoha crush.
>>289699379That'd be accurate.Basically, one would think Tobi is incredibly OP because he has hax and a cockroach tier defense, dude just would never die whatsoever. But Kabuto is quite similar, he has the hax, tons of different hax actually not just Kamui, he has defense just as good and he has better offense with sage abilities.
>>289699403he does "die" like 4 times, Sage Kabuto is OP
>>289699427>That's what the rumours sayWhat rumors? Sounds like forced headcannon.
>>289691183>loli god rinWhy did Kishimoto refuse to give us this
>>289698967Naruto barely used the shadow clones for sage trainingSkimming through the chapters, there is only one chapter where he used 4 clones, for the rest it was just him and old man frog
>>289699443Brother, most rumours ARE forced headcanons.
>>289697684It's a pretty decent arc. It has good fights and some entertaining twists. The writing is still full of holes, but it always is in this manga. I don't see any reason to put it below the average Naruto arc.
>>289699467Regardless, first time I've ever heard this. To say it's "rumors" implies it's something that's been talked about before.
>>289699458He used the clones until he was able to get sage mode down and then he just went to the 1 on 1 training. He's still doing a 4X multiplier with 4 clones.
>>289699516Because said rumours would more than likely have began when the chunin exams was still fresh and people would just move on because it didn't cause any seething like with Madarafags coping that Kaguya was created because he was too powerful.
>>289690646Sarada took a good look at Karins photo and thought she was her real mom kek
>>289699569I really doubt you can find any threads or common discussion about people believing there was an aborted arc to expand Hinata's role and have Orochimaru want to abduct her.
>>289699428Kabuto's problem is that he jobbed to the one guy with a literal "you lose if you have identity issues" button. Against basically anyone else he is a nightmare matchup.>regen>liquefy body>sage sensing>terrain control>sound genjutsu>white rage>edo army in his back pocket>can just crawl into a cave and be impossible to approachTobi is harder to kill, but Kabuto is harder to actually fight. Half his kit is just "you are now blind/deaf/paralyzed/stuck in a cave full of snakes while I monologue". If he wasn't written into the Itachi redemption device he would've looked completely ridiculous.
>>289699595I heard this being passed around years ago although not here.The Naruto fandom is filled to the brim with people trying to pass their headcanon as something official, so Hinata being kidnapped when she's unconscious and unprotected is something anyone could think would/should happen.
>>289699544No, Naruto had to stop before he even got it down because Fukasaku couldn't keep up with the clones
>>289699656I'd say it's not completely impossible but you need some powerful hax counterattack to more or less oneshot him before he can retreat and recover while also not falling before that. Very very tough matchup, could probably take 3 Kages on his own.
>>289699574Sai and Sasuke have completely different facial structures, hair-style and eyes yet people still say they look alike.
>>289699687Uh huh
>>289688849does this mean that kabuto is taking in too much sage energy and is about to turn into a snake?doesn't he only have like 5 minutes?
>>289699695>I'd say it's not completely impossible but you need some powerful hax counterattack to more or less oneshot himIronically Itachi and Sasuke both have these moves, but they can't use them, at least not directly.
>>289700115He doesn't have that limit, and this seems to be how Snake Sage Mode looks. It's possible that Kabuto isn't nearly as perfect as he brags about, though.
>>289700115This is another inconsistency. Are there different flavors of nature energy? What determines you turning into a frog or a snake or slug if you take too much in and can't control it? Maybe each sage mode should have relied on a different external source instead of it all being nature.
*crickets*
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>>289701056Why did an anon make up that interview and why did people fall for it
>>289699997Bro, like 5 years ago there was this whole thing about Hinata giving some of her snacks to Sasuke after the massacre happened and now nobody really talks about.
>>289701110>Hinata giving some of her snacks to Sasuke after the massacreWat
>>289701141Supposedly, there was this scene spreading around that a novel had a scene of Hinata giving Sasuke some food out of her lunch box as a way to console him.This scene, obviously, does not exist.
>>289699347>I hate Itachi knowing about SM. Makes zero sense.Was SM a secret? The founder of the village had it; why wouldn't they know about its existence, especially someone like Itachi?
>>289701263Don't you remember anon? Nobody knows what happened 50 years ago.
>>289701240>novelDisregarded
>>289688849>White Extremist AttackKabuto really turned up.
>>289699305Honestly, I like the idea that Kabuto just couldn't help but want to be a good doctor. He's got the skills and the discipline, and he does it for the love of the game
>>289688770
>>289701091>Why did an anon make up that interview and why did people fall for itbecause it's believable
>>289702371It's this. Kabuto is actually a kind person. His personality became twisted by Danzou's schemes and Orochimaru and he's got a sadistic side, but his natural instinct is to care for people. When Tobi snapped Torune's neck, he was a bit shocked.
>>289701860Ok and? It's still something that was spread around that you didn't know.Bet there are Naruto fans today that either don't know or don't remember the infamous "Itachi would've beaten Madara to save Sasuke" which only keeps being relevant due to how believable it is to have come out of Kishi's mouth with the way he's wanked.
>>289699595It wasn't really supposed to be a full fledged arc from what i heard.Were you even obsessed with Naruto enough to go on the net and discuss Naruto everywhere around 2002-2004?
>>289692530Ns now a days seems like a catch 22 because its the only one with more screen time both anime and manga. But most thier relationship is about sasuke they never talked about them selves or their interests its just oh bringing back sasuke.
>>289703287Would Naruto even know Sakura's favorite color is red if she didn't wear it all the time?
Bum.
>>289688623>boy i sure love being in the casual reach and grasp of the monster that nearly slaughtered us not even a generation ago>t. everyone in konoha apparently
>>289703476oh cool the alien invasion has sealed the prophecy child who was supposed to bring peace only for his own child to save the child of prophecy from the sealing cubethe plot has full circledsoon the singularity will happen
Does he not realize how inorganic these threads look? Can (You) for the love of god stop necrobumping this? Thank you.
>>289703787Can you find something else to complain about?
>>289703787Stop noticing it's feelings got hurt
>>289703787>redditbob
>>289688729>>289688743>you teammates sure are useful and not a gaggle of unlikeable retards at all
>>289703787If these threads are just OP samefagging to himself then why even bother trying to be "organic"? Nobody else is here, who does he have trick? Himself?You're not making any sense.
>>289696192Ain't no shame in kingin' like kong sometimes, retard.
>>289692344>chouji dreams he'll be loved by some foreign expy gf for no good reason because he has no good qualities>shikimaru wants to watch and bitch about the marital institution with his platonic hetorosexual life partner>ino wants to have pretty boys with shitty personalities fight over her and for her dad to be cool with it
>>289695343>trustting computerized genjutsu
>>289701944Well?
>>289689090>>289690575characters whose names end with -uto are just naturally talented for sage stuff. -marus and -yas don't even need to apply
>>289699060it's the perfect illustration of Kishimotos mind. Uchiha brothers fighting with Susannoo ultra mecha demons, Orochimaru's (male) student that became a perfect snake sage, and his (female) student on the ground that was irrelevant since her appearance (and her giant fishnet boobs)
>>289706616Jiraiya got imperfect at least, it was pretty good.
>>289705970watch episode onewatch only the first 1 minutestop watching after this and go watch some youtube vid about the latest manga chapteryou'll thank me later its not worth the hype
>>289698331>can use shadow clones>can use rasengan>can use sage mode>can even use the fucking KCM modeDid they really have to turn Minato into a nearly 1:1 Naruto clone?
>>289699305Orochimaru doesn't want to learn the hyugas. Neji is too schizo for him to deal with
>>289708158Yes, for merch.
>>289703114>Were you even obsessed with Naruto enough to go on the net and discuss Naruto everywhere around 2002-2004?Most people didn't start getting into Naruto until the anime started showing in the US. 2004 is probably when most people actually started getting into Naruto back then, at the earliest. On top of that, the internet was much different, those people weren't coming to 4chins to talk about Naruto, they were going to their favorite niche forum websites with weird chat rooms and boards, or talking about with friends irl. Regardless of all that, these weird "rumors" and "theories" being talked about in this thread weren't common place in Naruto discussions. The most common theories was Minato being Akatuski leader. Who Tobi was...and i guess if you want to count it, Minato being Naruto's dad. You have some weird revisionism.
>>289703787It's all he has
>>289688849DRAGON! DRAGON!
>>289688770I love this snake.
>those who break the rules are scum but those who betray their friends are worse than scumSo, by Obito's words, isn't Itachi worse than scum? He not only betrayed his friends, but his entire family to follow the rules and keep the village safe. I can't see how that's any better than Kakashi choosing to finish the mission instead of going back to save Rin.
>>289709190you don't get it Uchihas were ready to betray the village, and deep inside they knew that Itachi killing them was for their own good. Itachi did it for their own sake, just like Hiashi died for the sake of the clan, it was actually a great honor to die like that.weird Japanese mindset but this is why Kishimoto never portrays Itachi as a bad guy
>>289709049>Mentions the most basic bitch fanon garbage that only remains relevant due to their shitposting status.Whatever you say dude.
>>289709586You're retarded
>>289701263It's not but it's a very niche thing. Pain didn't know shit about it and he has Rinnegan. Knowing about Sage Mode should be quite rare, there was no reason whatsoever for Itachi to have that knowledge
>>289709049>they were going to their favorite niche forum websites with weird chat rooms and boards, or talking about with friends irl. And out of all of those, not a SINGLE one could've talked about Hinata being possibly kidnapped? In the very arc that brought up byakugan theft in the first place?>being talked about in this thread weren't common place in Naruto discussions. You have some weird revisionism.Absolutely nobody within this thread said it was a uncommon topic that span across multiple threads and years on the internet.
>>289709276I don't know, Itachi seemed pretty bad when he beat the shit out of Sasuke and then mind raped him.
>>289711097Sasuke was the one who attacked Itachi
>>289692530Sasuke should've gotten a cute OC wife from outside the village.
>>289710121We also have like hard proof that Kishimoto wanted to have more arcs before the chunin exams with the other teams being from other villages for a while and yet people only really bring that up in the context of Naruto and Sasuke's bond, and even then nobody really dives into those topics beyond "it would've been better if they happened".
>>289689520>>289690528It's because Kishimoto wrote himself into a corner by hyping up characters like Shikamaru and Itachi as having galaxybrain 200 IQs. So he does that thing where he dumbs down the other characters around the smart character to make them seem smarter in comparison.
>>289700584Kishimoto just doesn't like sage mode because its boring and provides the power ups at limits. This means Naruto can use Rasengan without needing clones and Kabuto can use chakra scalpels without all turning into a monster. If Naruto was consistent he becomes a ninja from merit and uses weapons instead of spamming Rasengan
>>289711774Sasuke was always as ignorant as Naruto. They're dynamics just change from the former being ignorant and the latter being trained thanks to snake wizard.
>>289709190Itachi is worse than scum, yes. It doesn't matter how hard Kishi tried to redeem him in the eyes of the reader, he still chose to be a good goy glowie over his family who, by all accounts, was nothing but good to him. He never should have retconned him into a good guy
>>289689188>>289689281Kabuto was complete fodder to someone like Itachi before he died. Like Kakashi level fodder.
>>289689520Sasuke was always more retarded than Naruto though.
>>289711843Eh he had his moments but overall he was tactically smarter. Just look at his encounters with Haku, Orochimaru, and Gaara. It was only when he got the Cursed Seal that he started acting ignorant... you'd think Itachi suddenly being there would calm him down.
>>289711952Obitard detected.
>>289712035Did he actually do anything smart against Gaara? He just so happened to have a jutsu that was super effective against Gaara's sand (and he also copied Lee's moves). I think Naruto targeting the least defended part of Gaara when he did the 1000 years of pain attack was more clever.
>>289689764>Kabuto out here playing around edo fucking Itachi and Sasuke in base snake form, countering genjutsu.What the fuck is base snake form my man?He's not playing around them, he's falling over himself to tell them the jutsu won't end if he dies and basically pulling an Asuma. Closing your eyes isn't countering genjutsu unless you can fight while doing it. He can't do that w/o Sage Mode sensing.
>>289689876It's almost useless for powerscaling outside of speed since you can't measure attack or defense power when characters are holding themselves back.
>>289711952Kishi could've presented this by just giving Itachi friends outside of the clan.
>>289712360*prevented
>>289712232Well that was after he got the CS, so it was when the ignorance started. Still, Lee lost and Sharingan isn't an insta-hack, it doesn't just let the user do whatever they see magically. Sasuke practiced intensely to copy Lee's moves and tailored his approach to Gaara's fighting style so he wouldn't repeat his mistakes, which is way more complex than just "see weak spot" -> "attack weak spot".His retard moment was actually using Chidori on Gaara's sand shield AFTER Gaara already made it grow spikes. Dude could have just impaled him once he got his arm trapped.
>>289690419Karin has always looked identical to Sasuke in black and white so this tracks.
>>289698967Kabuto is exponentially smarter than Naruto though. Naruto needed multi-shadow clone jutsu to make up for his retardation, remember Kakashi said Sasuke mastered nature transformation in a few days (it took Itachi one try lol) while Naruto spent like six months via clones training.
>>289710090it makes sense for itachi to know about sage mode and not the cripple cuck
>>289691237Kakashi is hot.
>>289712332It doesn't matter since we already know Sasuke and Itachi have one shot kill attacks with their Susano, proving Kabuto can lmao dodged all of them shows he's easily one tier above, if not more
>>289691691And Itachi was 24 crows.
>>289710090If it's in a book anywhere in the village, Itachi probably read it. Sharingan gives you an eidetic memory.
>>289712789You retard.
>>289712923>triggered Uchihacuck without any retortReminder Itachi got killed like 4 times in the fight. Kabuto's making it to the higher tiers of the list, no matter how hard you cry.
>>289699777"Alike" is relative. They look alike compared to Sasuke and Choji, Sasuke and Naruto, Sasuke and Kiba, and even Sasuke and Shikamaru and Shino. Which is what they were talking about in that context. How he looks compared to other guys.>>289709190According to Obito, there are only two types of people in the world: scum and worse than scum.
>>289712996No you moron I said you're retarded because characters don't use "one shot kill" attacks on people they're trying not to kill.>No Sasuke don't throw shuriken at him! I'll chop off his head instead!
>>289713774>"Alike" is relative. They look alike compared to Sasuke and Choji, Sasuke and Naruto, Sasuke and Kiba, and even Sasuke and Shikamaru and Shino.Holy coping batman!
>>289713861He was dancing laps around Sasuke and Itachi and neither were able to dodge and block, barely survive. It's no wonder their win condition was a literal "ermmmm I win"
>>289715494Uh, they were constantly blocking, what fight did you read?lunge: blocked w/ Susanoochakra scalpel: blocked w/ swordmuki tensei: blocked w/ Susanoo (Itachi just chose the wrong target)tagged kunai: blocked w/ AmaterasuOrochimaru's head: caught w/ Susanoochakra scalpel: baited with a lie... so tanked on purposetagged kunai: forced to retreat by Susanoowaterfall jutsu: used for clone feint and Izanami blitzSasuke's arrow hit him the second time in a non-lethal place because Sasuke was aiming for a non-lethal place on his body. Itachi's sword cut his horn not his neck because Itachi was aiming for his horn.I honestly don't know where you get the idea that they barely survived. If they'd really been in danger they would have started using their Amaterasu and Totsuka offensively.
>>289689002Simple answer he inherited his dad's yellow hair. And yes he still has that life force even without the ninetales. He's still a uzamaki. His dad just won over the red hair lol
>>289720983what is the esoteric meaning behind blue eyes blond hair chad+red hair wife of mystical clan
