What a perplexing question, I doubt we will have an answer any time soon.
1 month until disappointment
I Won't Blame It on the Alcohol Yuri x Drinking Anthologyhttps://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/one_turn_three_kisses#1
>>289691860I'm not talking about authors, but audiences. Which is more likely to have a female-majority audience? Your example or mine?
>>289691968>female-majority audienceIf a series X as 90 female readers and 10 male readers and series Y has 200 female readers and 800 male readers, which one is more popular with girls?
For the anon who talked about this one in the previous thread, yes this one is also on Sasa's kakuyomu's page but it has a different title and this is why you are most likely confused.https://kakuyomu.jp/works/2912051597519727363百合女主人公異世界転移剣と魔法ファンタジーライトノベル
Eri a cute
>>289691850TsukuTabe is a "yuri manga" about as much as My Brother's Husband is a "bara manga". Like yeah *technically* it is, but women attracted to women and men attracted to men will not be the main audience. They're basically "ally" manga.>>289692052We were talking about "female gaze vs male gaze" (which mind you I think are loaded, unhelpful terms due to the mistaken assumptions & baggage inherently attached to them, but they'll do for now). Something is fundamentally more "woman-coded" if it has more female fans, even if it's more niche.
>>289692230>x "gaze" is audience relative term instead of content defining term
>>289692320Yes, because you *find out* what's more specifically, uniquely appealing to women or men based on the ratio of fans. You don't apply stereotypical preconceptions.
>>289692230>if it has more female fans, even if it's more niche.By that logic, something with 10 females fans and 0 males fans is more representative. If thousands of girls are into something, that says far more about the average female consumer than a work with 10 fans.
>>289692230Leaving away the nonsense 'gaze' meme, what evidence do we have this artist has more female readers than say mira?
>>289692438>>289692406I'm going by reception on sites like pixiv, cmoa, dlsite etc. Mira does have more female fans than a lot of other erotic yuri which more or less enforces my point here >>289690013, however->something with 10 females fans and 0 males fans is more representative-Nah, since Nonke Onna also did better than any Mira thing while having a smaller percentage of male fans
>>289692230What are you talking about? Tsukutabe is the most generic yuri romance manga template you can find out there with a very superficial paint of "western views", women attracted to women won't be the audience outside of josei magazines either.
>>289692371No, you don't "find out". You are just keeping the circlejerked "appeal" based on bandwagon popularity.
>>289692632>like pixiv, cmoa, dlsite etcNone of which have remotly relevant or reliable metrics about the consumer genders.You're not finding either in DLsites ForGirls section thats for fucking certain.
Yankee×Jerky 4https://mangadex.org/chapter/a2b1bd93-b53f-4fe8-9800-8d265f52bdf5
>>289692679>You are just keeping the circlejerked "appeal" based on bandwagon popularity.Can you phrase this better?>>289692633Again, still basically an "ally manga" if I'm being mean and a "soft novelty romance" if I'm being nice. I'd rather define "yuri" based on stuff women actually attracted to women like. Again, does My Brother's Husband really represent "bara"?>>289692700It blew up AFTER she submitted it to the "for women" and "TL manga" sections. Would have to dig for a cap proving it reached #1 in both but have this for now.
>>289692632What percentage is smaller than zero?
>>289692844>>289692813there you go bitch
>>289692813>blew up after>shows it higher in adult mangaRetardbro...
>>289692864Haha. What a flop. Stop shilling this flopped garbage.
>>289692906see>>289692864#1 in women's manga. #15 *yearly ranking* in TL manga. This is far more prominent than the "adult" ranking.
>>289692961Anon, they are shared rankings. Womens manga is a smaller section.Besides it not actually proving anything about relative popularity with a gender demographic, let alone compared to other manga, you're also completly confused about what the ranking actually is.
Can (You) forgive Kadokawa?
>>289692813>Again, still basically an "ally manga" if I'm being meanYou are just wrong, it barely touches on those subjects outside of a chapter every now and then.>and a "soft novelty romance" if I'm being nice.As much as Adachi and Shimamura is a romance, because almost every chapter are about life situations usually involving food which is just a setup for them to go doki doki how much they enjoy each other, while gradually evolving to intimacy.>I'd rather define "yuri" based on stuff women actually attracted to women like. Again, does My Brother's Husband really represent "bara"?Then nothing is yuri because the amount of "women actually attracted to women" reading yuri is an irrelevant % of readers.
>>289693015Well first of all cmoa has a far bigger female userbase than other sites if you're familiar with it. Also>author submits to "women's manga" section, it reaches 1st place>changes it to "TL manga" section, overwhelmingly reseved for hetero josei smut, for the hell of it>it reaches yearly 15th place>THIS MEANS NOTHING>>289693031>Then nothing is yuri because the amount of "women actually attracted to women" reading yuri is an irrelevant % of readers.It really is not irrelevant.
In the previous thread there were like 3-4 anons showing interest on this whatever female gaze manga, somehow that number dwindle to this single sales schizo.
Mirei a shit though
>>289693085Yes anon, I'm sure the insignificant number f women who are attracted to the same gender, and inside that number the % of those who are into manga and inside the % of those who are into niche manga about same gender relationships surely are making the numbers in the yuri audience.
>>289693372Literally made for correction
>>289691897Probably, but im still gonna hope for something good even if it sets me up for disappointment, especially between those two.
>>289693355I don't like that green pepper.
>>289693355Wasn't /au/ supposed to be translating this?
>>289691897Mada dame yo.
>>289693085>>289693031Also Dengeki/Gangan franchise Adachi and Shimamura has way more male moe otaku appeal than either TsukuTabe (straight woman manga) or Nonke Onna ("bislut" woman manga). It's a very goofy comparison.>>289693393You're kinda delusional if you think bisexual attraction among women into things like BL & josei smut is that rare.As I said before cmoa has a large female userbase and no one there gives a fuck about Adachi & Shimamura https://www.cmoa.jp/title/188559/
>>289693355credits >>289691325
I think yuri should be promoted to /vip/ where it belongs
What's with the reddit spacing
>>289693676Used it on 4chan since like 2005 before anyone here even knew what reddit was
>>289693671
>>289693826>he is uninitiated and can't see the secret /vip/ threads
>>289693737And the greeks didn't think taking a dick on the ass was gay, are you going to do it as well?
>>289694701Actually, it was the Romans who thought the opposite that fucking a man in the ass wasn't gay. The Greeks thought it wasn't gay for a younger boy to rub your dick with his thighs while kissing you.
>>289693504>Also Dengeki/Gangan franchise Adachi and Shimamura has way more male moe otaku appeal than either TsukuTabe (straight woman manga) or Nonke Onna ("bislut" woman manga). It's a very goofy comparison.You knew very well I wasn't comparing demographics here so I am really not sure what you thought you would get with this non sequitur.>You're kinda delusional if you think bisexual attraction among women into things like BL & josei smut is that rare.Aside from the fact the BL audience is hundreds of times bigger than the yuri audience and the culture of the two things completely different, I am pretty sure you don't have any actual data on this to make this bold claim you are making.
#Gyaru to Gyaru no Yuri 22https://mangadex.org/chapter/d6ed4569-9edd-4d53-81ed-c2c00c708fa6
sorry im into yuri
https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/sakuras_world_ch49#1
>>289694948Well the series I'm talking about is one, and the amount of BL genderbend art is another. Also the amount of female otaku who like yuri pairings while not being core "yuri manga fans". Again, does this >>289693085 just mean nothing? A lot of comments from a BL/TL audience saying "I'm not normally into yuri but this is great", or "most yuri is too moe/soft" etc?>Aside from the fact the BL audience is hundreds of times bigger than the yuri audience and the culture of the two things completely differentThis is part of my point though in that I think there is an untapped audience who WOULD find lesbian manga appealing but the public facing image of original yuri manga series rarely if ever appeals to them.
>>289695093your boyfriend is not here
>>289695098>>289694948What about the amount of otaku women into shonen anime who ship non-canon yuri pairs from those series? Those are pretty separate from the "core yuri manga/novel/etc fanbase", they don't know what Masao Adachi & Shiggydiggy or whatever is
>>289695098Anon, I am not sure what the other anons answered in regards to this, but this is hentai, it's a small audience and it's not surprisingly for comments like this to exist since the yuri hentai market is borderline nonexistent outside of doujin of popular thing. Again if your argument is that yuri is what "women who like women find attractive" you won't have anything to go for, aside from the fact some men and women just like hentai, they like degenerate narratives, they are not necessarily attracted to the same gender, if anything the argument you are making how this is basically a genderswapped BL actually may indicate the yuri aspect is just irrelevant and the artstyle itself is what is attractive to those people.>>289695248Shipping is very detached from everything else, it's just a different culture by itself authors realized they just can't integrate into actual romance works because it's counter productive to shipping itself.
>>289695561>Shipping is very detached from everything else, it's just a different culture by itself authors realized they just can't integrate into actual romance works because it's counter productive to shipping itself.teren...
Teaching gyaru true love!
>>289695561There can definitely be "middle ground" cases where "same-sex attraction only applies to anime", yes, but I'd say they're more likely to happen when it's a dude into Gerudo Link porn or a woman into Rika/Chili from Pokemon. "Trap/reverse trap" stuff essentially. When female otaku are genderbending their favorite yaoi pairs into girl characters that look like this, the male equivalent would be yuri fanboys genderbending their favorite Yuru Yuri pairings into swole, square-jawed bara dudes. You never see that!>Shipping is very detached from everything else, it's just a different culture by itself authors realized they just can't integrate into actual romance works because it's counter productive to shipping itself.I dunno if I buy that. Where you see an unreachable audience I see an untapped one.
>>289677941Kyoanifag here. What the fuck is this, as in YOUR, bitch doing there?
take this to /a/yurikino
>>289691903>childhood friends>lots of kissing>polykinoI live for this shit
>>289695904>I dunno if I buy that. Where you see an unreachable audience I see an untapped one.
>>289695904Shipping is much more popular than romance yuri, they are not untapped at all, the overlap with romance is just small.
>>289695925Cute Shuuichiwives
>>289694948>You knew very well I wasn't comparing demographics here so I am really not sure what you thought you would get with this non sequitur.Forgot to reply to this. On one hand I'd say "moeshit" yuri is a bigger part of the established "yuri audience" than TsukuTabe, yet on the other hand you could compare them in that neither really taps into the audience I'm talking about.>>289696115Well, yeah? That's not saying it's an unreachable audience.>>289696176Well, I think another issue is how often people equate "yuri" to just "romance". Everyone calls Murcielago a "yuri manga" but you wouldn't really call it a romance manga, would you?
>>289696206>>289695925get a room
>>289696226>Well, yeah? That's not saying it's an unreachable audience.I wasn't arguing against you, I was providing evidence of a known yuri author that does consider them a potentially reachable audience to try to appeal to while keeping the work still actual yuri
>289696206RuriYuri
>>289691866Sauce? Google ain't giving shit
>>289696368See>>289691903
>>289696226Anon, I was just answering to the point that Tsukutabe is diversity yuri and not romance yuri, when it's just a very by the books romance work, anything else was not really in the scope of that argument.>Well, I think another issue is how often people equate "yuri" to just "romance". Everyone calls Murcielago a "yuri manga" but you wouldn't really call it a romance manga, would you?Not as black and white as you would believe, Murcielago actually does have a wholesome romantic subplot which is developed over 20+ volumes, it's just spaced between a lot of action and lesbian sex. If you are asking if something + yuri has a better chance of overlapping with more audiences, then yes it factually does. But I doubt it would ever be enough to matter with the shipping audience, after all if it's an adaptation work they are aware the couple will get together and if it's an original work they don't want them to get together so they can profit from shipping.
Yuri is so good
>>289696642Don't bully bullies.
>>289696680Do bully (sexually) bullies
>>289696302Whoopsie-doodle.>>289696503>But I doubt it would ever be enough to matter with the shipping audience, after all if it's an adaptation work they are aware the couple will get together and if it's an original work they don't want them to get together so they can profit from shipping.That just sounds like a very conservative outlook. BL shippers can like both original BL and shipping, so the same can apply to yuri (and again, there are BL fans who are CAPABLE of liking yuri, but often don't find things that appeal to them)>Murcielago actually does have a wholesome romantic subplot which is developed over 20+ volumes, it's just spaced between a lot of action and lesbian sex.I mean, yeah, but you could say plenty of hetero action series have a "developing romance" element. Doesn't mean Murcielago's core appeal is "ahhh puwe wuv, my heart goes doki-doki! :3 teh handholding... LEWD! x3"
>>289694997What happens at lesbian gyaru weddings?
>>289696754Actually it's the same thing, the only difference is that the BL doujin market is much bigger than yuri, but the amount of MHA or JJK shippers are much bigger than any original BL work. Anon, most of the yuri authors doing yuri are BL fans, some even BL authors themselves, yet they still choose to write and draw something which is not equal to BL.It's just there are different degrees between different works, you have action yuri works which are just small teasing until the end when they get together and you have action works like Murcielago which actually do have a explicit yuri romantic subplot and you have works like Mahoako where there is action but the character motivations actually mostly revolve around romance.
>>289696349Cute ojisan onaholes
>>289692201
>>289696349>>289697003get a room
>>289696985There was way bigger overlap with BL/josei smut artists when Yuri Hime started, but NOW we live in a post Yuru Yuri world where there's a different standard for what constitutes "Safe yuri". Ironically "hardcore yuri fans" hate Citrus, call it "casualshit" or "male gaze" depending on the type of fan they are/where they're posting/who they're trying to pander to... and guess what, it's 1. quite yaoi-like 2. very popular with female audiences. Almost like I have a point here!
>>289691903>>289691866Legendary birth of a polycule!
kys debatetrannies
>>289697411This
>>289697426That
The red string of yuri
>>289697241Nigga that male gaze nonsense is a fucking meme, we live in a world where the best selling yuri properties like Watanare or Mahoako lean more into the male audience than ever before. At least Citrus has that shoujo-like soap opera drama appeal.
Sorawo is shit.
>>289697564Cringe>>289692218Based
>>289697564Majiwives!
>>289697671>>289696206>>289697003https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jt6Yv7bByj4
>>289696503"Not a romance manga" doesn't mean "excludes romance". WataTabe isn't an action manga just because there's a youkai battle every so often.
>>289697671Don't you have that Shits of Tomorrow thread to keep an eye on?
>>289697588I see Citrus in my shithole country's stores, I see women buying it, I don't see MahoAko or Watanare. Citrus is bigger, more mainstream.
>>289697564>>289697671>Discount Ruri>Discount NagiNo thanks.Also stay mad Lycoschizo.
if he is here that means the Lara thread is usable right now
>>289697241Anon, for the first decade YH was a quartely magazine with like 4 or 5 authors each issue and even so most of them were not really that big BL artists either, so this correlation you are trying to make is just nonsense, also It's amazing for you to say this when there is likely one or two works currently in the magazine similar to YY and everything else is either heavy romance drama, menhera or something else mixed with yuri like horror or fantasy.And no anon, "hardcore yuri fans" don't hate Citrus, it's still one of the best selling yuri works to this day, whatever western nonsense you are reading is not really representative of the people who actual buy yuri works and Citrus was one of the works that basically started the new age of yuri works that would leave gay angst behind and would also focus on having beautiful looking girls.
if he is here that means the Sparks of Tomorrow thread is usable right now. Oh wait nobody cares about that anime
>>289697867I'm not saying "everything is like Yuru Yuri now" or that there was *immense* yaoi overlap in the past but those vibes seemed more common back then. I'm saying yuri could benefit from BL/TL "trashiness" and vibes >>289695098
A simple no nonsense guide to gazes in yuriMale gaze: Both girls are cuteFemale gaze: One of the girls is ugly or very masculine
>>289698036Citrus destroys this meme
>>289697426>>289697411Just collapse the chain if you don’t want to see it.
>>289698118Citrus is male gaze
>>289698036If there is women then you will have male gaze, this includes tsukutabe
>>289691968Why is Uranus cheating on Neptune
>>289698275Because she's tilted.
>>289698275Anus belongs to Yufi
>>289698173I know you're likely messing with me given I mockingly brought up that view before ITT... but a ton of opinions in these threads start making a whole lot more sense when I consider that by "female vs male gaze", you guys really mean "everything erotic is for men, everything borderline asexual is for women, women who are sexually into yuri are bigfoot x chupacabra mpreg buttbabies & totally ignorable"
>>289698325>bigfoot x chupacabra mpreg buttbabiesNot all female yurifags are fujoshi.
>>289698325Troons like you are the reason we started all the memeing and honestly I don't think it's enough
>>289698405What's troonlike about what I'm saying? They're the ones who call Citrus male gaze!
>>289698325>bigfoot x chupacabraI would read this if it was yuri. Cryptid yuri in general is sorely underrepresented
>>289698455Your inability to understand irony.
>>289698484There are no female bigfoots, they keep travelling between dimensions to kidnap women after all. This is an actual IRL belief from "bigfoot" specialists btw.
>>289698484Neji is your best shot, but she'd abandon it shortly after starting.
Jussai no Saikyou Madoushi 3https://mangadex.org/chapter/68c001d2-5c3f-461d-964b-d48ee84f1944Yes, we finally have a new chapter from the new translation and well if there is something which is "female gaze" it's picrel.
>>289698497Yeah sorry I'm tired and in "argue with everyone" mode. That was pretty stupid as hell, I'll concede.
Mutt is consistently getting good engagement on xitter, Kadokawa’s sns effort pays off. otoh.
>>289698036Then what sort of gaze is moonsheep?
>>289698726omni gaze yuri
>>289698742*except for anti-mole schizos
enlarge the mole
>>289697564>>289697565>>289697671>>289697608>>289697795>>289697839get a room
>>289698908What about sucking on a mole?
>>289698777>m*leshit
>>289699018ironic shitposting
>>289698709kwbr will end zenkowa fast and embrace kadokawa now
>>289699087>embracing kdkw means more dumb muttI can feel my inner duality of man.
>>289698275Neptune is for Noire.
>>289699300>what gazeMine, no one else is allowed to look at it. Even the artist couldn’t look at the full image. You might think you can see it, but that’s just your brain creating a different image in its place.
Would you still like yuri if one of them was a worm?
Fate is Useless
any TLs yet?
>>289699484You mean this series?https://mangadex.org/title/be5a9292-79c6-4db1-8a30-9e5e6b3d8f64/futsuu-to-bakemono
>>289699507get a room
>>289699484Imagine a girl caring for her tiny worm gf. Decorating her tank with pretty flowers, making her a cute little jar so she can go on trips. And then she gets eaten by a bird
Atelier LILIUM 2nd gen
>>289699593Suzu a cute
>>289699593>she cries when she watches sad tiktoks
>>289699593They should hire Manio for the next pair
>>289699707A cute!
>>289699707感受性高いですね！
>>289699593>likes: in-app purchases>dislikes: in-app purchases
>>289691866
>>289697047Kino sounding name.
https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/my_wife_died#1
>>289700345
>>289700463>NTR'd by yourselfBrutal.
We need Manio gaze yuri
>>289700463I'm sorry for your loss, anon.
>>289700626sorry, but i'm not into yuri
>>289700766Then roll over and die.
>>289700816There's no freaking way! Unless...
>>289700463What are the ethics of replacing your dead wife with an exact copy of her?
>>289691866>>289700563poly yuri is so kino...
>>289700345Any poly yuri where girls A and B both love and date girl C but also regularly hatefuck each other?
次回公開予定： 2026/08/01(土)
You really have to wonder what goes on in some people's heads
>>289701427anyone who doxx should be tortured in minecraft
>>289701427Doxxing someone to snipe their manga is kind of based desu
>>289701480It's not from another group. It's by someone who wanted Sciencey to drop it because Gal x Gal is licensed.
big happenings
Teren didn't give us watanare 9 because he played ManoSaba for half a year.
>>289701512Also based. Scanlating licensed stuff is just stealing money from the people actually supporting yuri.
>>289701524
>>289701427>>289701462>>289701480>>289701512Uh huh, I'm sure the same guy who dropped My Yuri starts with slavery because according to him almost the exactly same thing happened to him in high school, meaning a hot girl was molesting him, got a letter with his dox so he can drop another series.
god i wish that were me
>>289701628
Is Sakisome Complex still being translated?
:)
>>289701720just done a rapemight do another
>>289701720>thinking about rape
>>289701587You know you can see the letter in question for yourself in the Discord, right? Why would they make this up, retard?
>>289701427who gets mad over fun and wholesome loving gyaru yuriwould they not do it if they were threatening to claw each other's eyes out saying their acryllic nails were drugstore trash?
>>289701427...Was this that one anon complaining about galXgal yuri the other day? I wouldn't put past him being a schizo trying to erase it off the map.
>>289701720>"her smile holds a secret"
I mean the letter makes complete sense, it's absolutely right that it hurts yuri and future yuri licenses.
>>289701766Why would a tranny, not a figure of language, an actual mentally ill guy who puts a dress and wants you to call a pretty girl would fabricate a letter threatening to dox him over a manga translation? What a mistery.
>>289701720She looks like the type of girl that will take care of sick cats and cure them of their abandonment issues
>>289701524>>289701580Title?
>>289701876>勇者の旅の裏側で勇者の旅の裏側で
>>289701843>it's absolutely right that it hurts yuri and future yuri licenses.I'm going to need citations on both of those or you'll be forced to repeat the semester.
>>289701876behinds the scenes of the hero journey or something like this
>>289701893If it's free, no one pays!
>Going from weekly chapters to have to wait for volume publicationsThis always slows down discussion... I would say that I hope some group picks it up, but if >>289701512 is correct, then it's probably going to scare other groups.
>>289701888日本語が出来ない>>289701899Thanks
>>289701532The game is just like 30-40 hours, I guess he was doing it in small sessions.
>>289701918like how the hell did they get the address, bad opsec from sciency?
>>289701720Fake smile. Annoying. Must be bitten.
>>289701918>there is a serial doxxer out there and he will dox anyone who translates this very specific manga and not every translator out there who is doing the same thing.A likely story.
Menhera yuri between scanlators.
>>289701957To put it into perspective: THIS is the work that made someone send doxx threats.Just some JK gyarus.
>>289701999>scanlators>yuriAnon...
>>289701524>>289701580Is this being translated?
>>289702009Because it's pretty popular. If you can take it over, you can get that sweet donation money.
>>289701951Didn't they do that "age verification" thing to basically dox everyone? Their own fault for being DIscordfags tbhdesu.
>>289702026No, I offered to do everything aside from TL and TS but it went no where
>>289702009>doxxing over gyarusso not Yazawa Yay!
>>289702009The sad thing is that the troon scalator lying is as likely as some other troon getting obsessed with this work because it's "totally him" and actually pulling this off.
>>289702064That would require the doxxer to be a palantir associate
>>289702082...or just wait for data leak.
>>289701893Less people spend money on services to read licensed manga -> less likely for future manga to be licensed -> less money for manga artists
Reminder that sciencey admitted he tones down the language on yuri manga to fit western nonsense
scanning licensed work is 100% evil
>>289702026https://mangafire.to/title/r35jn-behind-the-scenes-of-the-heros-journey/chapter/8797327There's the first chapter here.Interesting read... reminds me of that one manga about the knight girl who also wanted to be a hero, minus all the edgy bullshit, this one feels honest.
The letter in question, by the way. I can almost guarantee it's one of those deranged Xitter fags who think Shoujo is the second coming of Christ
Those who read scan but don't buy the volume if it gets licensed are parasites at best and niggers at worst.
>>289691866Does this count?
>>289702143Isn't that just the excuse from the N4-kun guessilating. Incorrect subject everywhere from that one, it was so bad.
>>289702146>wanting the anglophone west to become a profitable market for yurithe fuck's wrong with you man
>>289702150
>>289691866But what if they kiss more than just their friends?
>>289702159>supporting /pol/ """localization"""Pirate + raw tanks is the only correct way to support the authors.
>>289702066Is there a free TS anon here? I'm sure he can work on it if it's interesting to him. The main problem is TL. We severely lacks anons who are willing to TL a serialized work.
>>289702210It's a good enough compromise for anons who can't read Japanese. For stuff to buy from Japan, try to buy merch and artbook from your favorite yuri authors to support them.
>>289702208No one is interested in your tranny harem shit anon.
>>289702237you could try asking GA for a script
>>289702265>compromise dekinaisPirate + raw.
>>289702210>>289702265In all honesty I said this >>289702203 but I have bought physical English releases. I don't live in America or a place similar to America though. One part of why I do the spergy "yuri should appeal to fujos" thing (I do not consider anyone in the west to be a "fujo") is because I don't want it to belong to the kind of people who post on english yuri reddits.
>>289701720Rape
>>289702208>NO ALCOHOL OR ANYTHING WITH SIMILAR EFFECTS HAS BEEN CONSUMED>in every panelfunny gag, title?
>>289702208I like that there's mother x daughter in this but I don't like that it's male lead harem.
>>289702362It's a troll you mongoloid
>>289702153This is just a citizen's Cease and Desist letter. If the company itself sent one it would be the same.
>>289702023Female gaze
>>289702023
>>289702339What's crazy to me is that the west only release the volume for their manga and zero merch. I'm from gooknam, and I would cash out some extra money for the "special" or "limited" edition of any given yuri volume release for the merch, the local license scene and the tiny royalties for the author.
>>289702416it's still a schizo who thinks their behaviour is justified by saving yuri. No doubt they'd feel vindicated about going further if sciency didn't listen to their demands
just buy raws from amazon jp or something if you actually want to support the authors. they probably don't get anything from the shitty localized versions, at least i know from most french releases they don't
>>289702348Unironically better than supporting localization industry with your hard earned money (begging your daddy)
>>289702153>this guy actually thinks fan scans are what's holding yuri back from being successful>the hill he chose to die on is one of the most successful ongoing yuriHope he's prepared to go carmen sandiego on the inevitable third world MTL sniper who picks it up next week.
>>289702450The means is wrong, but the motive is moral and justified. Yuri will benefit as a result of this. Sciency shouldn't need a dox threat to drop a licensed manga in the first place.
>>289702461Even if they did get something in terms of money the impact on the continuation of a serialization is much higher when you buy the original, preferably as close to the release as possible.
>>289691897
>>289702461I'm extremely autistic about this stuff to the point where I just bought Nonke Onna raws twice on both dlsite & cmoa because it's so separate from anglophone "yuri fandom" and I want it to do ok
>idol out of nowhere
>ugly manga shill is back
>>289702529Japanese publishers could kill fan scanlations overnight if they truly gave a fuck. Just release simulpubs. Until western fans aren't subjected to an objectively inferior experience, late, unreliable, and questionably beneficial to the creators, there will always be a pirate community that puts in more legwork giving the manga a boost solely for the love of the game. The letter itself is filled with baseless assertions of licensed works skyrocketing in sales because fan scans stopped when the reality is most of those licensed works only get bought by people who already sampled the scans before buying.
>>289702596But I've been here all along.
>indirectly admitted it's an ugly manga
Koinega English license doko…
Posting Eri makes you a shit poster.
Eri a shit
>>289702529english manga is treated like dogshit and deserves to be undercut by fans. the whole new wave cancer of hiding TLs behind "coins" and other pay schemes can go get rakes shoved up their assholes and is a separate issue from official releases being glacially paced and intentionally translated oddly by the most bottom barrel MTL supervisor
>>289702659>This is what josei actually is supposed to look like when it isn't draw by a retarded woman
>>289702613>Until western fans aren't subjected to an objectively inferior experience, late, unreliableThese aren't moral justifications for piracy. The only moral leg that fan scans have to stand on is exposing more people to the work. Their job ends once a manga gets enough exposure to be licensed. Going forward, they just act as a direct competitor to translations which monetarily benefit the original creator. Any further exposure gained is marginal at best.
>>289702655It's "ugly" based on your inferior standards. if I have to explain why it's not you'll never get it.
>>289702685>>289702687Eri is cute!
>>289702736Yes, what yuri needs more of, phallic imagery.
>>289702729>Going forward, they just act as a direct competitor to translations which monetarily benefit the original creator.There's nothing stopping me from getting said translations for free if I want to. Fan translations are only a competition in terms of the quality and the speed of the release.
>>289702729>you should just lie down and be treated like dogshit because one day maybe the people who treat you like garbage will spontaneously decide to offer a better service for no reason at all
>>289702714It's boring. Might as well read manhwa at this point. If you went something less "oldschool ladies' comics"-looking, remember that I Wanna Spoil Yoroizuka-san! is *shoujo*.
>>289702758Her behavior is not.
>>289702736You agree with my "inferior standards" though>>289702633
>>289702760See this is why yuri fans suck>girls lick each others' fingers because hands are erotic>"erm, blowjob much?">girls looking at the camera on the cover>"they must be looking at a MAN with his BIG FAT ENGORGED COCK out!"What next, breasts makes you think of testicles?>>289702899Nah I'm just letting you believe what you want.
>>289702802Morality is based on the creator's perspective, not the consumer's. A high quality and more convenient fan scanlation does nothing for an artist whose manga is already sufficiently exposed. Even if it was slower and lower quality, it would still hurt the licensed translation just by being free and siphoning people who are averse to paying if any alternative exists.
>>289702820You just want to fap to hentai we get it anon.
>>289702839
>>289702899I'm sure this level of wit was very impressive on the grade-school's playground but I'm sure you can do better than that now, I believe in you.
>>289702934>Ignoring the thousand romcom covers which are exactly two girls looking at the cameraEven actual publisher have given a yuri author the feedback that having two girls looking at the camera was a bad idea because people couldn't tell it was a yuri manga
>>289702729Fanscans do not compete with physical volumes. For digital releases, no moral justification is necessary, just quality of product. >t. bought every OneeKyo volume in nip, bought volume 1 in English only to find horribly butchered TL and refused to purchase further
>>289702941>it would still hurt the licensed translation just by being freeThe licensed translation is also free.
>>289702952It's more that you guys have such a broken idea of what "female gaze yuri" or whatever is that I enjoy being very contrarian.
>>289702965Why are they staring into blanks instead of each other?
>>289702339>I do not consider anyone in the west to be a "fujo"If not fujo then who are the people hosting the dozen or so smutty BL panels at AX every year while yuri is lucky to get a single half-occupied anime premiere by the studio?
>>289702934>girls lick each others' fingers because hands are eroticA proper lick would also focus on the delicate skin between fingers, the palm, and lighty kissing the tips. Not deep-throating the neko's finger which is just awkward for everyone involved; it has more appeal when the tachi is the one exploring the neko's mouth with her fingers. And all of this is wrapped up in the closest shot of a saliva trail that looks little different from a blowjob.
I pity Fuyuki.
fuyuki is so lucky
I am not lucky
>>289703123Fuyuki and Eri are both so lucky
Gekkos on your left, Seiran!
>>289703077It's a Japanese term. When typing in English, it means "Japanese yaoi fangirls". Might as well call Tom & Jerry an anime at this point.>BUT IN JAPAN THEY-You know very well what I mean.>>289703110Yeah you're a gigantic sperg I'm sorry.
>>289703179>spergSays the one posting the same art by the same artist over and over.
>>289703179Yaoi in a Japanese term.
>>289703197Yaoi is a Japanese term.*onehanded typing
>>289703179>It's a Japanese term.So is karaoke, pretty sure that doesn't mean "Japanese singing over a playback".
>>289703142
Will penguin requiem anon spare a few yen to keep his inorganic advertising going?
do actors really kiss for real on stage?
Post your rarest pair
>>289703179There is utility in distinguishing between the type of woman engaging with smut of Doctor Who and Harry Potter versus Naruto and Boku no Pico Academia, in the same way colloquial English distinguishes cartoon and anime.
speaking of penguin and piracy, the speediness of the scan is the primary reason I haven't paid for the web raw...
>>289703197>>289703232The thing is, you guys constantly say "fujos" and describe your experiences with retarded American women on Twitter.>>289703312>>289703211Hence "slash fangirl" vs "yaoi fangirl" vs "fujo".
>>289702934>why yuri fans suckyou got exposed outsider
>>289703317Raws for chapter 1 and 2 are available for free while the yet-to-be-translated chapter 3 isn't.
>>289692813>I'd rather define "yuri" based on stuff women actually attracted to women likeGuess ShuuKura isnt yuri since both leads say they arent into girls
>>289703232>KAH-rah-okaySinging in Japanese over a playback>carry-OH-keySinging in English over a playback
>>289703376Nobody asks, Nakatani.
Too bad Sakisome Complex will never get licensed
>>289703370>used shoujoai.com since age 12, /u/ since age 13>"Erm, tourist much?">>289703376See, this is retard shit. I can be a yuri fan and think this is retard shit.
>>289703412>shoujoai.com since age 12, /u/ since age 13such a sad story you got groomed
>>289703376I like to think of it more as a "power balance" manga
>>289703434>sad
>>289702992Anon, I will be clear a single time and I hope you will finally understand, we don't give a single shit about "gaze", it's a meme we made to mock the retards like you who honestly believe it's an actual thing, we don't fucking care.>>289703179Yes, this is correct, yuri, anime, fujo, sake and so on are words to describe things that are part of japanese culture, which the west is not, of course japanese people call western things those words because it's their word to describe things.
AdaShima is a battle harem shonen manga.
>>289703374I know.
>>289703434How? I think most of you are really stupid and I always did.>>289703449I've used this place enough to know a lot do have some pretty dumb preconceptions. If you don't and agree with me the "gaze" stuff is stupid, well I don't mean you.
>>289703440sorry, what a great childhood
>>289703473Anon, we meme those words to filter the retards and now you are here literally begging the retards to come and fight you, we already have enough schizos and clowns who want to ruin this thread, if you want to talk about your favorite manga you don't need to make a show about it, just be fucking normal and don't sperg if someone calls it ugly, just call him gay and move on you fucking retard.
>>289703449If gaze isn't a thing, how come even nip artists talk about male-oriented art and female-oriented art?
>>289703376Sendai is MiyagisexualMiyagi is Sendaisexual
>>289703473>rants about MUH BASED FUJOS all the time>See this is why yuri fans suck>I think most of you are really stupidPlease go read yaoi already. It’s okay to be gay.
I don't see how it's a good idea to come to a yuri thread and insult yurifags.
Shiori×Mutsuki
>>289703576Because of gender stereotypes, which are rampant in Japan. 7menzippo said the same thing initially, and only submitted to the women's section on cmoa after I talked to her about it and pointed out how the pixiv bookmarks were overwhelmingly from women & guys mostly ignored it, dlsite had reviews like "why is this in the men's section?" etc. AND ONCE SHE DID, THAT'S WHEN IT BLEW UP.>>289703588I never said I don't read yaoi too. What do you want.
>>289703607It feels lonely in its half a dozen 'I hate yuri' threads it samefags in all day.
>>289703630This is hot in a weird way
>>289702439I was actually surprised to see how many limited editions the Vietnamese have. Saburouta even drew Mei and Yuzu in ao dai. Meanwhile here they didn't even include the extras in last volume of Lonely Girl
>he's a yaoifag all along
>>289703576Mucha is a batshit insane woman, you'd know if you had followed the Cure Chocola saga.
>>289703630>What do you want.I want you to eat a snickers, no1currs about your rants and would stop baiting you if you weren’t so recognizable
>>289703665Weird in what way?
>>289703665Yeah I like sweater-puppies, tight pencil skirts and pantyhose, you could say my tastes are pretty weird.
Does Taiyaki have a daughter?
>>289703685Qrd?
>>289703630>7menzippo said the same thing initially, and only submitted to the women's section on cmoa after I talked to herIs this why are you shilling her work here? You personally helped her to get a boost and now you feel like you became saved a poor soul or something?
>>289703687>>289703696Obviously he meant the text was weirdly hot. Sometimes anons getting heated is just too sensual
>>289702659Is Shinoa milking Koneiga? I want her to start working on a new yuri, preferably without bishit
>>289703668Actually that Citrus merch isn't part of a limited edition. Amak, the licenser, doesn't do limited edition for their manga. It's only a special edition. Limited edition is more expensive, but offers better and more goods than the special edition. Yagakimi has one, and it has a tapestry, a boxset and more. The whole shebang. It's great. I'm jealous of the Thai though. They get way more yuri than us.
>>289703729I noticed people shipping these two, I need to catch up with Yumemita...
>>289703686>>289703541Conflict is a pretty easy way to stir discussion on 4chan of all places. I don't think I'm gonna change anon's view, obviously.>>289703728Well, I messaged her about it to begin with because I liked it.
>>289703576>Lolicon harem mangaNot beating those allegations
Speaking of yuri made by fujo, what happened to White Rose in Bloom? I heard its magazine died.
>>289703309
>>289703630erotic male gaze
>>289703746I don’t think so, she said she’ll publish one koinega doujin around new year and that’s it.
>>289703576Are you unironically conflacting common moe and josei artstyles with male gaze and the made up by troons female gaze?
>>289703746>>289703819If people want merch she would be dumb to not give them that, especially when she never knows if her next work will be a hit and it may not even be yuri.
>>289703747Fuck I’m so jealous of practically every other country atp. Only American bonuses I’ve seen are some shikishis on kinokuniya, and the site doesn’t even work for me
>>289703827That tweet is specifically talking about erotic art and how it's tailored to a given gender.
>>289702439I'm pretty glad germany currently has a label thats actually trying to bring the more classical volume + merch package here for yuri manga. Hope it keeps doing well, even if I don't really need translations its nice the yuri ecology is growing.
>>289703783Protag designs are great.>>289703863I dunno, that artist's stylization kinda screams "male otaku-targeted art" to me so it could, in fact, be about that.
>>289703783The magazine died and the author hasn't made any new chapter in a while. Meanwhile Destruction Lover is actually continuing but very slowly.
A love yet to bloom into you
>>289703892>Destruction Lover is actually continuingWhere?
>>289703873We usually get at least some small merch bonus with the first volume of a newly licensed series. Can't say yuri is treated badly here, despite being probably the single most BL dominated anime and manga market on the planet (of the major countries anyway).
>>289703863Yes anon, may surprise you, but men reading moe and moeish manga, will want to read hentai in similar artstyles and so authors will pander to those demographics, similar to how your previous example has people interested in the BL artist artwork even if the artist changed genres.
As someone that used to read a lot of old yuri, I find it weird that most people don't really know anything older than Citrus. People recommend fucking Bloom into You as a classic.
>>289703783Well Goodreads lists a fifth book but says it won’t be out until next year. I’m not sure if that’s definitive or just a placeholder though. There was merch for it at the recent cafe for her stuff, which is a good sign
>>289703950Real boomers: GirlfriendsFake boomers: Citrus, Bloom into YouZoomers: Kitakawa
>>289703859I literally have a bucket of yuri posters (paper) because of it. The problem for me is that I have no room to hang it, and I'm worried that the posters would get ruined by getting exposed to my goon cave. Same for my other yuri goods. I only have my tapestries hanged.
>>289703309Of course. What did you expect?
>>289703950The average person bothering to engage with a community is in their 20s. To them, YagaKimi is a classic. Its also much more famous than say Sasemaki Koto.
I'm looking for a relatively new series with old school shoujo art style. It looks like something made in the 90s. The protagonist is a brunette with pigtails and the love interest is a blonde. The title mentions dream or garden. Anyone knows what I'm talking about? It's not translated but I saw it here once.
>>289703973If a poster is really nice enough to be preserved you can frame it instead of tacking it to the wall like a savage.
>>289703989Lip condoms or sth like that
>>289703971Girl Friends will always be one of my GOATs
>>289703607>>289703651I didn't mean "yuri fans are fucking losers and yuri is shit". In a different context I could've just as easily said "this is why BL fans suck" and listed some gripes I have with them instead. Not everyone pictures men everywhere, but it's definitely a common thing I come across when talking about yuri.
>>289704002Because the market is so saturated with yuri merch, any poster would cost like 50k VND which is like 2 freedom dollars on the open market. The cost of framing it would be equal to the cost of that poster alone, so it isn't really worth in imo.
>>289703971Real gooners: shoujo sect
>>289703950>"most people don't really know anything older than Citrus">implying Utena isn't internet autopilot
>>289704053Tae-chan & Jimiko-san is way better.
>>289704026double paizuri gaze
>>289704070ova when ?
>>289703950What would you recommend besides girlfriends? Sasameki Koto? Candy Boy? Satopani? Aoi Hana? Hotei san and Ebisu san? Banana no Nana (rip), Prism?
>>289704039It's not really a matter of money now, it's more about the difficulty of getting your hand on another good quality print of a given picture in the future if you don't preserve the one you have.
>>289704026>trolls insert male to shitpost>it must be the whole yuri community that is like
Aoi Hana had a legitimately good anime. Why did people sour on that?
>>289704039If it's cheap enough just buy a second copy to hold in case the first one is ruined.
>>289704100Eh... I would rather just import something nice from Japan at that point.
>>289703950The genre is like 30 years old, heavily backloaded, and you're clutching pearls over someone thinking an 11 year old manga could possibly be a classic. There are manga from this decade you could easily call classics of the genre.
>>289704098I mean, I legitimately thing most of those are good. I guss the problem is that a lot of manga around that time were still Class S-ish?
>>289704125Even to this girlfriends is still my favorite work, but my point is that over the decades we already recommend those works a hundred times, we just moved on from doing so.
>>289704098Simoun
>>289704102>it's just trolls that have been constantly saying this on and off 4chan for two decades nowErica Friedman was saying this about Wildrose covers when Hime's readership was 70% female. You're right that I was dumb and assumed "male gaze" jokes ITT were serious, but many people really, truly believe that.
It's time to bring up that nobody really talks about how important Mai-Hime was to the development of modern yuri.
>>289704110It's cheap, but it doesn't mean it is easy to find some yuri fans who are willing to sell just that one good. It's hard to find somewhere that doesn't reek while fags who are more concerned with some normalfag bullshit and not discuss and trading yuri in the first place here.
>>289704164How was it important to the development of modern yuri?
Buy plastic to support yuri
>>289704160>Take Ericow seriously
>>289704160Yes anon, we also literally have retarded troons entering japanese stores and seething they saw men buying yuri there, but they are posting it on X or trannysky, not here.
>>289704175You can draw a straight line from Shizuru and Natsuki to modern yuri, specially in terms fo mainstream recognition...
>>289704098Definitely not Sasameki Koto. Waste of time.
>>289704227Kinda, it does have a LOT of pointless filler that has nothing to do with yuri.
>>289704179Link? I can barely make out whatever is in that picture.Also I have other stuff I'm buying anyway so if I can just throw this together that'll be great.
>>289704085Sakai Kyuta key animation please>>289704186>>289704183Yeah I knew you were gonna say this. Another common thing I noticed on 4chan is people saying "actually we don't care about these stupid talking heads or these stupid offsite groups of fans with their bad opinions; we're way better!" then those exact views & preconceptions being posted here, over and over again, and taken for granted.
>>289704247You need glasses anon
>>289704261Like I told you, any tranny that shows up with any similar bullshit gets called out and he doesn't come back, why don't you go to any archive site and browse the yuri thread here on /a/ since they became a dialy thing since you are so interested on this topic?
>>289704282>caring about BR when we got more Klaudia/Ryza from Gust in the same week
>>289704282>KTThey actually did something other than DWslop? Damn. Yuri DW when?
>>289704282Nice behind, but from a yuri perspective I'm only interested in Ray in all its janky goodness, the rest of the franchise may as well not exist for all I care.
>>289704333I'm not sure how the timeline works, but I'm pretty sure that the mobile game where some of the girls fall in love with a guy comes before the second game where they fall in love with the MC there.
>>289704305Not gonna lie, I'm relatively new to modern-day /a/ yuri threads since I kept holding on to /u/ like a fart in a church until I had to admit "ok this place is dead". I have seen some very goofy views go unquestioned for entire /a/ threads though.
>>289704247https://www.melonbooks.co.jp/detail/detail.php?product_id=3730744https://www.melonbooks.co.jp/detail/detail.php?product_id=3730746
>>289704362>some very goofy views go unquestioned for entire /a/ threads though.Like what?
>>289704362I respect your patience.
>>289704200How? It aired in the same year as Marimite, Nanoha and Kannazuki no Miko, all of which were far more influential
>>289704375Like for example "lesbians don't like yuri, they read yaoi", in far older threads but funnily enough there was a thread *just now* where I was the only one questioning that. Often that one Sex Ed 120% page is used as "evidence".
Two whole moles. Is this the new standard?
>>289704412What's wrong with that?
>>289702159In the case of GalxGal, it's simul published on Viz, so it comes out the same day as Japan. Unless you're completely broke or region blocked, there's not really an "excuse" to priate it.Doxxing and sending a letter to someone is next level schizo behavior though. I remember scanlation drama being bad, but did it ever get this bad in the past?
Lara flipping pancakes?
>>289703576The reality is that Mahou Shoujo 201 is bait. Not yuribait, mind you; it baits you into thinking it's a lolicon manga (for women), when in reality it's a hag manga (for men). If there was more focus on lewding Mamu over Fujiyama, it would have more feminine appeal.
>>289704446What could possibly be right about it?
>>289704412More lesbians read yaoi than yuri by sheer scale of the fanbases. There are millions of fujos and probably only a hundred thousand female yurifags. Even if 10% of fujos are lesbians, that would still be more than all yuri loving girls, some of whom aren't even interested in women.
>>289704412As long it's not an absolute "no lesbian ever has read yuri", it's mostly correct since BL and yaoi are a common female hobby and culture and so all types of women read it. Yuri is niche, less niche in the last decade or so. but the audience is so small you definitely don't have that many lesbians reading it.
>>289704449>Unless you're completely broke or region blocked, there's not really an "excuse"Or you find the fan translation better.
>>289704472I mean of hetero men can like yuri more than hetshit why cant lesbians like yaoi?
>>289704179I’m still waiting for other stores to list their bonuses
>>289704463I think the author is aiming for anime so no chance.
>>289704488Nah, sciency’s is too sanitized not cringe enough.
>>289704493That's not the correct analogy since straight men are attracted to women and lesbians aren't attracted to men. A better one would be gay men reading yuri in big numbers, something which doesn't happen
>>289704449>I remember scanlation drama being bad, but did it ever get this bad in the past?Look up Baki scanlations and Wild Fang some time
>>289704528Anon, you can read manga, even smut, without wanting to fuck the characters, most lesbians don't find men gross.
>>289704482>>289704487Maybe through an environmental thing like "yeah I'm a woman, my female friends like yaoi, I'd better read it too" but not "oof yikes yuri is MALE GAZE and UNREALISTIC, I NEED to read yaoi to enjoy myself with same-sex romance!"; that shit is fucking insane and you know it.>>289704493I was just gonna respond with this >>289704528
Mucha was a porn artist that drew porn for men, what the fuck did they expect
>>289704528>straight men are attracted to womeHardcore male yuri fans usually enjoy yuri voyeuristically rather than as fuel for romantic attraction. It's the same way a lesbian can enjoy a straight or yaoi work.
Zankou Saisatsu ch4https://mangadex.org/chapter/d23ca32b-4780-4ccc-badf-81f4101c5b6e
>>289703993I can see it in my head but I can’t remember the name. I remember saving art of the main two in a heart with a plaid background, been trying to look for it>>289704412They’re trusting that “lesbian fujos” on Xitter aren’t just straight/bi women looking for attention>>289704424Mole inflation.
>>289704528I mean its all fantasy anyways and has nothing on what you like in reality. Next you'll say liking lolis makes you a real pedo like in that bbc interview.
>>289704553Yes anon, we know, you need to stop bringing u obvious common sense here.
>>289704548Again, retarded. Yeah it's technically possible for a gay man to like erotic yuri for the characterization & relationships but it's not this super-common thing at all (and mind you I've seen a few dudes who are clearly bisexual yet identify as 100% gay for incely "fuck foids" reasons). Meanwhile every other fujoshi into yaoi porn is a "lesbian" because it's cooler to say you're gay than to say you're bi.>>289704560THE VOYEURISM IS STILL LINKED TO YOUR SEXUAL ATTRACTIONION IF YOU GET EROTIC ENJOYMENT FROM IT YOU DIPSHIT>>289704568>They’re trusting that “lesbian fujos” on Xitter aren’t just straight/bi women looking for attentionYeah and that's silly. And it's also silly for the Sex Ed 120% author to trust it and give THAT more attention than to actual lesbian yuri fans because SHE IS A FEMALE YURI FAN WHO LIKES GRAPHIC AYANE ONEELOLI PORN.
>>289704574Yeah well you wouldn’t consider a man straight if he jacked off to buff men fucking every night, don’t know why it’s any different here
>>289704607>SEXUAL ATTRACTIONION>rather than as fuel for romantic attraction.Notice how those are two different types of attractions.
>>289704315>Klaudia/Ryzathey are not even lesbians
>>289704625They're pandering hard with the ASMRs though.
>>289704607Men and women are different and raised diferently too, it's all there is to it.
>>289704619People like you are the reason everyone thinks men into yuri are trans
>>289704566>I will just break up with the schizo Ho ho ho someone is going to learn a lesson
>>2897046192D is 2D. There are more traps in anime than lesbians but I don't think that most Japanese men would date another man in real life.
Today is yuri tuesday!
>>289704641maybe but we all know that they arent endgame
>>289704705>they arent endgameThe series is over and there's no one left to take Ryza other than Klaudia, who has been implied to like her since the first game.
Unpopular opinion but I think the supernatural multiverse element feels super bolted-on in Adashima and devalues earlier volumes considerably.
>>289704719if thats the case then why when the anime was airing the anons never mentioned that? also if the series is over then whats the deal with the asmrs? are they canon ?
>>289704730Iruma needed to work out all the romanticism out of his system so he could publish My First Love's Kiss
>>289704730Because you started reading Iruma's stuff with Adashima who is part of the same universe as previous works.
>>289702208I love this series
>>289704660Getting off to yuri = getting off to boobs and pussy. Getting off to yaoi = getting off to dick. Doesn’t mean you wanna be the woman/man, but that you’re into themMaybe there *are* women itt if we’re getting unironic “yes you can love men and be lesbian” lmfao
>>289704675I already addressed this. This is why I say you guys are fucking stupid. >>289695904>Yeah well you wouldn’t consider a man straight if he jacked off to buff men fucking every night,That's what anon said, and you totally dodged it and brought up traps instead.>>289704622"I'm a lesbian super into graphic yaoi sex for uh, the romance" give me a break man. I'm not saying a straight dude can't like Banana Fish, I'm saying a straight dude liking Gengoroh Tagame porn manga is hugely fucking unlikely and you'd think he's closeted.>>289704574Loli's a whole other can of worms and it can depend heavily on characterization, level of stylization etc. In some cases where it's more realistic, either art or writing-wise or both... yeah there's probably something in your head that make prepubescence attractive, if only in a fictional setting, but your morality & protective instincts keep you from feeling anything IRL. When it's less realistic it's probably more a case of "I can find anything cartoonily super-neotenous attractive", or it can be comparable to finding a Sonic the Hedgehog character attractive or whatever.The thing is, to get across neoteny for loli or shota art, you use simpler designs with less lines. Less anatomical definition, and way less detailed faces, which can leave more room for projection & detachment through stylization. When you're drawing grown-ass men and women YOU INCLUDE MORE SECONDARY SEX CHARACTERISTICS AND MORE DETAIL. Think about it for a second.BL/Yaoi characters aren't usually traps unless they're explicitly meant to be traps. Bara, absofuckinglutely not traps. You know twinks or "slightly muscular but slim and handsome" dudes etc etc exist in real life too, right. To get that across you need to draw more from reality than when you draw Kanna Kamui or whatever, because it requires more detail & definition.
>>289704777This is the yuri thread not the tranny forever virgin thread you retard
>>289704619I would read Kircheis x Reinhard erodoujin if it existed. Wouldn't jack off to it but I would bitch about it if they didn't capture Reinhard as a power bottom.
which female yuri mangaka would you date and marry?
>>289704625>>289704705Fuck off, Bos schizo.
>>289704098Poor Poor Lips, Hoshikawa Ginza District, Octave.
>>289704833You know the answer is Manio.
>>289704797This is yuri. What's your problem?
>>289704833Manio and Nekotarou
>>289704730Adashima became Iruma's safety net, he uses his light energy to write Adashima which has the side effect of generating dark energy inside him which he needs to spend creating original shorter series, that's where his ambition is poured into.
>>289704787Most yaoi guys are not super buff guys but lots can be pretty feminine. Your comparison would make more sense if they were reading bara, not yaoi.
>>289704856No one recommends Octave
>>289704660Genuinely how the fuck. What's the "tranny" mentality there? It's common sense.>>289704804Sure but would you be a super-dedicated erotic yaoi fan? Would it be one of your main interests? Then yeah you'd likely be closeted.>Maybe through an environmental thing like "yeah I'm a woman, my female friends like yaoi, I'd better read it too" but not "oof yikes yuri is MALE GAZE and UNREALISTIC, I NEED to read yaoi to enjoy myself with same-sex romance!"; that shit is fucking insane and you know it.Can't address this, just giving examples that don't actually address the real thing being discussed.
>>289704859Nekotarou is a liar, Manio would never lie to us
>>289704870Sure but most of them still read as dudes! Most dudes into occasional gay anime stuff as an extra to like, the usual "hot anime girls", are into very explicitly "trappy" art which is way less masculine. A lot of full blown prepubescent loli/shota characters are undetailed, blobby & heavily stylized because that's a common way to get across youth in stylized anime drawings: by drawing & defining LESS. So you can end up finding those characters attractive for the same autism reason someone might find this character attractive.Yaoi guys tend to be a middle ground. Not turbo-manly but still reading as men.
>>289704833itou8
>>289704833The lesbian one
>>289704965Uuuuh got any Goombella x Ms Mowz yuri?
>>289704645>raised diferently tooYeah women are more likely to exhibit bisexual attraction and guys like you are more likely to take their self-identification at face value even if it's clearly nonsense. If a dude had erotic yaoi as his main interest, above anything else like hetero or yuri or whatever, & claimed to be straight, it would be VERY reasonable to think he's closeted. Come on.
>>289705033The point is, woman nornalize the idea watching gay romance or even gay smut is normal between themselves and has nothing to do with their sexuality, men don't do this, even though it'e not theoretically impossible.
>>289705148bro never heard of traps
>>289705176Okay now you're epically trolling me again>>289705148What is sexuality defined by, if not what turns you on? If a dude jerks off to women constantly but isn't very interested in having real-world sex, does that make him asexual?>>289704783I've specifically had a dude go "well yeah what you're saying makes sense, I don't wanna be mean to women and deny their self-identification!" at me
If you're a man that likes yuri you're either trans or an egg. Simple as.
>>289704882I'm a shipfag at heart so if there were an abundance of action/scifi/fantasy with homoerotic subplots that leaned into it to throw at me, I'm sure a handful would get me to latch on whereupon you could catch me looking for such erodoujin. If that makes me closeted so be it; I already joke with my friends that I'm 90% +/- 5% straight.>greentextIs not a real opinion that anyone here sincerely holds. Anyone insisting upon it is a disingenuous shitposter (or perhaps a tourist).
>>289705232>I'm sure a handful would get me to latch on whereupon you could catch me looking for such erodoujinAgain, irrelevant; it's about the *level* of interest.>Is not a real opinion that anyone here sincerely holds. Anyone insisting upon it is a disingenuous shitposter (or perhaps a tourist).Just "no true scotsman" at this point. You've been doing it over and over in this thread because I got riled up and took an ironic post seriously one time.
>>289705281You're conflating me with another anon. I'm reiterating the point because you mentioned that you do not frequent /au/ and we have a number of schizos, some of whom you may recognize from /u/general (in the past, haven't touched that thread in years), and more still of lesser degree that regurgitate the same talking points because what's the point of 4chan if not to be needlessly confrontational or something. If the point you're trying to get across is that there is a nonzero correlation between a person's sexual preferences and the type of sexual content they consume I'm not denying that.
>>289691866Why not?
>>289705390>If the point you're trying to get across is that there is a nonzero correlation between a person's sexual preferences and the type of sexual content they consume I'm not denying that.It's like >"I can enjoy some dumb edgy adult cartoon that shows animals fucking every once in a while" vs>"I actively seek out cartoons of animals fucking. This is one of my main interests, and in fact, I get nothing from watching humans in sexual situations. But don't get me wrong, this says NOTHING about my sexual proclivities."
https://kuragebunch.com/episode/12207421983906416219out but good luck reading it
>>289705774Is it that hard? I can't be bothered making accounts on all these reading sites but can't you usually make enough point for free if you only want to keep up with a couple series?
Rape
I think the government should require all women to read yuri so they can learn how to be better women.
>>289705840>learn how to be better womenhave you even read yuri?
>>289705932Toxic yuri isn't real yuri
>>289705840Kitakawa as a middle school textbook.
>>289705974This is why I say "yuri fans suck". It doesn't really mean "yuri is bad and for fucking losers" it just means "a lot of you guys are lame".
I read Makoto Hagino's new series after it was brought up last thread. The MCs are a former child/teen actress (leftmost in pic), a cinephile high school boy (second from left) and his female childhood friend (middle). The latter is questioning her gender, extremely similar to Haru from Kimishinu, and there's some awkwardness around it. She seems to like the other feMC while the male MC may come to like either of the girls. It could be yuri-relevant if it doesn't go the route of her actually wanting to be a guy. I still really enjoy Hagino's style no matter what she makes I guess.
So we had 200 posts because an autist can't understand some joke or meme posts and take it at face value?
>>289706112and is attracted to ugly women, yes.
>>289706229Igarashi to noighd
Is this how two girls have sex?
>>289706544Who will be the last of the Big Three?
>>289705213stop projecting
>>289685236I found it: https://comic-walker.com/detail/KC_008337_S/episodes/KC_0083370000700011_E?episodeType=firstAnd yeah, there's nothing on Koyuki's hand. It was bullshit.
>>289706891Told you it was an anti-yuri schizo making shit up.
>>289706956I'm just happy my favorite girlship is still going strong in their adulthood. Little bro did not get their classmate though, F
>>289706891God, they're so precious.
>>289706511Where's this from
>>289704179Shoujo Yuri getting the male gaze store special editions...
>>289707280Ironic tranny shitposting is still tranny shitposting.
>>289707279That new oneesan anthology. Raw up on /u/.
>>289707329Maybe I'm blind but I don't see it? Just an image someone posted of the cover
Fuyucute. How r18 will the doujin be?
>>289704451When will Shiori get a job too?
>>289707598She's a bodyguard.
>>289707364top 5 prettiest yuri anime frames of all time.
>>289707357It's on their mega.
>>289704264The sideways thing isn't helping.>>289704363Thanks!
>>289704179>fromagebooksSo Melonbooks is actually categorizing it as shoujo?
This is all so tiring. Duh, they categorized a manga from a shoujo label into shoujo. You are insane.
Roka route soon
Last word
oh know
>>289691866Post the girl who likes butts
A huge massquote is coming
>>289703467>>289708447>>289708703>>289708812>>289708852You are seething so fucking hard at everything, !-Akemi.You quite literally have "ack" living rent free in your head every single waking second of your life.
cross thread/board quoting means obsessed
Dopamine rush
>>289709198Unique posting style.Literally every single instance of the word "mass quote" is you, !-Akemi. You seething about being called a samefag.>>289697255>>289700345>>289700563>>289701214Your life is so pathetic.
God hates Lara
>>289691866>>289696368>>289696477>!-Akemi obsessively making threads and trying to force his mental illness into the OP of threads because he's desperate to feel "represented" >>289709238>>289709240Making posts about "ack" totally unprovoked means obsessed (actually, just replying to you being mentally ill doesn't actually mean anything).
>>289695093>>289695136>>289709256>>289709274>>289709275Hey, !-Akemi. Can you explain why sometimes there are "multiple people" spamming at the end of threads, and sometimes there is no one at all who starts seething when you get replied to?Almost like it's all just you, a single person.
ACK is real
>>289709296>>289709308Refusing to address anything said to you while spamming images you're obsessed. "the last word" means nothing.
>>289709293YOU ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO REFER TO ME
>>289709315Do you think you'll ever move on with your life and fix your mental disorders, or do you plan to die this way?
