Earthnoids deserved the colony dropped
>>289772759Why did Tomino decide to leave by far the coolest part of the one year war (the colony drop) off screen and only decide to show endless repetitive lame mech skirmishes instead?
>>289772924Merch
>>289772924Probably because he was too young to remember Pearl Harbour (he was born about a month before).
didn't the spacenoids like, literally miss hitting south america? the space nipponazimperialists managed to literally miss a continent.
>>289772759>Earthnoids deserved the colony droppedSure, but neutral spacenoids didn't deserve to be gassed.
>>289772759>the z reticuli greyman alien didn't accomplish its goal>colon drop Stop giving me stomachs aches!!!Gundam, damnedgod
>>289774754The wiped out the Aussies so it turned out even better.
>>289774754They were aiming for Jaburo, but the Freddie's deflected it and it landed in Australia. Yes, they were aiming for a legitimate military target, but the cowards instead of evacuating what they could decided to sacrifice Australia.
>>289775032>decided to sacrifice Australia.Understandable.
>>289772759Spacenoids are literally evil in all the Gundam Shows.
>>289772924Because Narrative so far has been the only one able to depict the scale somewhat accurately. Wonder how the live action will pull it off?
>>289772759>lost
>>289772924>off screenit's literally on the first minute of the first episode
>Sir, Zeon is set to drop the colony at Jaburo!>Quick, misdirect their target further to the left!>Sir, the colony now about to drop at Sydney! Should we direct it any further?!>No, it's fine.
>drops colony>ok guys lets sign a treaty so we don't wipe out with nukes and large mass weapons>loses war>drops another colony>ok were policing you more strictly>NOOOOOO THIS OPPRESSION>attempts to ice age the planetSpacenoids supposed to be super empathic and the next stage of humanity's evolution btw
legitimately how could Zeon be held accountable if they were aiming for a valid military target to begin with
>>289772759Two colonies were not enough.
>>289781768>man who only lobbed asteroids
>>289781621They massacred millions of people with nerve gas then dropped their home on what would be the Amazon rainforest if not for the Federation deflecting it. That first deed is itself abhorrent, but the second deed would have ruined Earth's barely-intact ecosystem in one fell swoop. It would affect far more than just Jaburo.
>>289772759>side 3 wanted to be their own independent state>the Earth Federation didn't want to allow it>they fought until both sides lost half of their population>HALF OF HUMANITY IS DEAD>the E.F. still don't want to recognize Zeon as its own independent state>instead they make a new super weapon (Gundam) and are willing to fight until all of humanity is extinct just to maybe take back side 3 at gun point and Stockholm Syndrome their asses Bro. How can anyone side with the feds? It took me 5 minutes to become a Zeon enjoyer, basically as soon as the narrator explained the backstory.
>>289784997Side 3 had been independent for at least 10 years, probably closer to 20, before the One Year War. Zeon also massacred their fellow spacenoids to start the war and throughout it.
>>289772759>We must massacre fellow spacenoids to teach them Earthnoids scum a lesson>Fail 3+1 times
>>289772759>We love our planet Earth!>Hoomans are destroying Earth so we all should live in space colonies instead!>Many hoomans don't want to leave! We have to force them somehow but how???>Nuke Earth??????????? Explain the logic, Tomino.
>>289786623It's very simple, the rich and powerful elites of Earth screw the world up and make spacenoids their space slaves, then when the spacenoids revolt their space rich and powerful elites see the opportunity to take advantage and spin the revolution into their own megalomania. The evil in Gundam is, once again, the evil all men do.
>>289772759>EarthnoidsSeeing self-hating Earthians like you trying to make a slur for Earthians by recycling the age-old slur of Spacenoid is like seeing blacks trying to use "cracker" as the N word for whites
>>289786903>the N worddo you know where you are? you don't have to censor yourself anon
I don't think Char actually did much wrong in 0079 besides the Garma and Icelina shit I guess. He just ends up getting kicked in the dick on like every possible level at the end of the series but it also doesn't feel cathartic or anything because he's been the clear underdog for like half the fucking show anyway, while Amuro's just been playing on easy mode for the same amount of timeI admit I can't stop compulsively masturbating to Char though so I may be somewhat biased
>>289787909what do holes see in Char anyway
>>289772924>why isn't it like my dumb middle east war propoganda films?retarded burger.
>>289788269I can get being sympathetic but Char also has an abusive/manipulative side to him and kind of fucks over tons of women in the show.I guess that's also part of the appeal?
>>289775032frankly I'd rather Australia get destroyed than South America
>>289786623Earth has survived 5 major extinction events. It'll heal with time.
>>289787909>>289788269you don't make much sense, looks wise Char is at his ugliest in 0079.
>>289788161He's hot, mostly. Also I guess him getting screwed over by plot due to not being the protagonist mostly (at least this is what it feels like) gives him a level of sympathy/vulnerability that appeals to me. But honestly it feels like I'm liking him for that in spite of the plot rather than because of it, since I'm sorta mildly complaining about it hereI was trying to think recently "would I actually care as much about this character if he did and said the same shit but was also an extremely hideous fuck" and realized I probably wouldn't (doesn't mean I'd think he did much wrong though, just means I wouldn't care), but I think this applies to anime characters in general for the majority of people even if they wouldn't always admit it. Because most major anime characters are indeed drawn as baseline attractiveThat said I think most other female Char fans are like >FUCK HIM, HE DESERVED EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENED TO HIM AND WORSEand my take is the kind of extreme outlier position that they'd make fun of or strawman. From my perspective it feels like often people kind of retroactively apply, like, the later CCA characterization to everything he did within 0079 in order to present everything he does in the worst light when I find it still mostly defensible at that early stage>>289788318Maybe?There's something interesting about how it seems he was expressing more genuine feelings toward Lalah in the eps leading to her death and that makes it pretty painful to me. Like if he was just an asshole to her constantly like he was in her first ep or 2 it'd be like "yeah, he deserves this" but that added complexity is interesting; like he was expressing the right feelings eventually but it happened slightly too late. I totally get how that'd fuck you upI find his side of Lalah's death sadder than Amuro's despite the show trying to present it as pretty equal, because at least Amuro and Lalah immediately got catharsis/closure while Char never even got that
>>289788383Too masculine for me in Zeta (doesn't look bad though, it's just not my preference) and straight-up ugly to me in CCAI mostly just favor his 0079 appearance
So, being like 0079 Char = girls masturbating to you?
>>289788832If you look hot (without a helmet and mask), yeah
>>289786528That's never explained in the show. Is it something they added later?
>>289788832>so being an elite CHAD = girls masturbating to you?Yes.
>>289788468faggot.
>>289772924>only decide to show endless repetitive lame mech skirmishes instead?Budget. Can you imagine animating hundreds of mobile suits which is also why most of the battle happens in space.
>>289788161What kind of question is that? Char has been one of the most husbando'd characters of all time and it's obvious why with his looks and his attitude.
>>289786623Famine was already killing millions during that time. It's not like the feddies were actually taking care of the people and feeding them. Mind you that the spacenoids were humans that were kicked out of Earth because of overpopulation and scarce resources. Essentially the rich kicked out the workers out into space then they taxed them to shit.
>>289788468You actually like the goofy Samurai Helmet?
>>289789456I mean, I like it as an iconic character design, but I never actually said the helmet was hot. Actually as said here >>289788846 I'm thinking more of how he looks without it (and without the mask, I actually find the weird strap things around the mask goofier than the helmet) when I say Char's hot.I think the original 0079 design has a pretty fun contrast between how he looks just kind of "non-specifically adult" in the full outfit, but then once he takes the headgear off you realize he actually looks surprisingly cute and youthful. The later designs lack that fun element because he gets progressively more masculine and kind of goes through twink deathBut yeah I kind of have to rely on fanart or other Gundam media to really see much of this because the show itself doesn't show that much
>dumps three space colonies on earth>still losesSounds like Spacetrannies deserve to be enslaved if they are this incompetent.
>>289781621I mean, if it hit Jaburo it wouldn't wipe out just Jaburo, but also destroy most of the Amazon rainforest and tons of cities around South America too. It's not like the blast would be limited to Jaburo.
>>289784997>>289789111If you go solely by the narration in the show, Zeon is explicitly said to start the war. And although the narration mentions the fighting between both sides resulting in half of humanity dying, the visuals themselves only show Zeon forces blowing up one other colony -and- performing the colony drop.
>>289788425>From my perspective it feels like often people kind of retroactively apply, like, the later CCA characterization to everything he did within 0079 in order to present everything he does in the worst light when I find it still mostly defensible at that early stagenah, he has always been a weirdo, that's kind of the appeal.
>>289789689I mean sydney literally got vaporized but Australia as a whole didn't become uninhabitableYes, it will be a massive environmental disaster but if only military targets died like they intended Zeon can just handwave away the deaths caused by secondary effects.Plus what actually happened in 0079 and where/how the parts of the colony actually hit was alreday way worse than what would have happened if it was on targey, but Earth remained habitable after the billions of deaths
>>289789968It's kind of weird but I'm also not totally sure what they were going for there. Is he just saying this to get the other guy to back off and stop asking questions, since according to Tomino Char and Lalah were actually having a sexual relationship at this time and the "sister" thing doesn't come up again? Or alternatively at this point in the show is he seeing her as kind of a substitute for Sayla or something?I didn't say he wasn't weird though; more like it feels like sometimes everything he does in 0079 gets retroactively painted as the worst thing ever
So you're telling me Caval boya got his pp played with by this?
>>289789832I see. The show must be feddie propaganda! Just because we mostly see a faction's point of view it doesn't mean that they're righteous.
>>289791061Yes
>>289789968>in sexual relationship with Lalah>she's like a sisterSomeone thinks they missed out.
>>289790171>>289789968Isn't it obvious that Char didn't want his relationship with Lalah to be public knowledge? He kept it at rumor tier because he actively benefits from being seen as a desirable bachelor, being seen as belonging to one woman limits his opportunities.
>>289790073>I mean sydney literally got vaporized but Australia as a whole didn't become uninhabitableThere's a huge hole covered by water in Australia in all UC Gundam maps, and that would be just the direct impact, all area on that side of the continent should have been heavily damaged too.
Gqux aside, do girls masturbate to Shirozu as well, what about Origin Char or would the appeal between these be too different?
>>289792026>ShirouzuDespite me not liking super masculine Char designs this one goes too far in the other direction and seems a little too twinklike to me. Not big on the hair or clothes either. Feels like a different guy as much as that's probably the point>OriginThe Origin anime specifically has a weird art style but I guess if drawn closer to the 0079 style it's fine? (just talking masturbation-wise here, not about the quality of Origin one way or the other) I guess younger Char with the sunglasses is actually pretty hotI feel like both the Origin anime and manga maybe make his hair look slightly too short but that goes back to the art style as said before.I just learned that apparently the Origin writer, in contrast to Tomino, saw Char's relationship with Lalah as completely platonic (saying that he felt that one kiss scene was their first and last), and so I guess that might have its own appeal if someone's into the idea of ultra-pathetic virgin Char. Apparently people were really weirded out by this when he said itAlso in Origin he's explicitly written as wanting Lalah as a substitute mother in 0079, rather than this maybe being something he only started feeling around the time of CCA with his thoughts on Lalah being warped over time and her being more and more idealized in his memory
>>289772759ummmm the colony drop killed spacenoids too genius
>>289792026>>289792861fuck, just thinking about Origin and its version of 'Char' ruins my fucking day.Shirouzu is conceptually fun, he is mysterious like 0079 Char but has the looks of CCA Char.
Hitting the only survivable part of that accursed island is pretty impressive
>>289772759Is that the goddamn death egg?
>>289794161No, the biggest bitch about a colony drop is it’s never depicted right. The superstructure would be enveloped in fire far worse than that
>>289792861Well, he was undercover as Shirozu. Just as I thought too much of a departure then. Shuji and Challia seemed to be the more popular ones from that show. Any thoughts on those two?I got the same impression in regards to the origin too, but like you said probably just the art style. As for the spoiler, yeah seems a bit odd, I get the feeling things would've been different if that was the case.>>289793568Maybe it's the hair being slicked back?
>>289794447absence of scar too.
>>289794447>ShujiI'm not really into the design but that's not meant in a negative way since I don't hate it either; he's just not a character I've thought much about. Looks a little androgynous maybe which is kind of interesting>ChalliaHe's a little more interesting to me; it's pretty cool to see a character who was originally underused get more attention in other stuff, and how he looks older than characters that are usually popular (yeah despite him really being like 29). Obviously on a visual level I don't really get much out of him being shipped with Shirouzu, but there's a lot of stuff of him with 0079-design Char and, though I don't actually ship it, I'd rather see that than Char and Amuro which I'm just not into.Japanese fans of Char/Challia seem super into it but maybe that's just because it's comparatively new
>>289793738You can thank the feddies for that.
Damn, how does Char do it? Women want to fuck him, underage girls flock to him and females on anonymous image boards masturbate to him.
>the Earth Federation(which has no real means of projecting force at the time) is oppressing us poor spacenoids>so we have to gas our own people, throw away one of our living spaces that cost untold time and resources to get up into fucking space, and attack the Earth!
>>289800043plain and simple, he has a mission and is autistically devoted to it and has a NOT-gay obsession with his rival. This shit is cocaine earth and spacenoid w*men alike
>>289772759The spacenoid mind has only one solution to any problem and that is to drop a colony on it. Zeon Zum was right, humans are changing in space, it's just the change is going backwards.Bask Om was right TSD
>>289800043There are at least 3 separate wars that Char could have stopped with his dick
>>289772759What is the tactical advantage of using the flesh melting nerve gas on your own countrymen in order to drop them on the earthnoids?
>>289802504>>289802498
>>289781621I only hold them accountable for gassing the civilians on that colony.
>>289800421>he has a mission and is autistically devoted to itBut Char's not that persistent...? I mean he had multiple phases in life already and rather is adaptive
