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Mion or Shion
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Shion while Mion please
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>>289786123
3p marriage with Mion and Rena!
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>>289786123
Mion, then Shion, then both
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>>289786123
The oldest one
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>>289786544
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Give me a Shion thank you
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>>289786590
Do you offer test drives? How about lifetime warranty?
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>>289786453
k1 chose neither

not even satoko.
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>>289787167
you break it you buy it, pal
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>>289787237
This image is so hot, like Mion.
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>>289786544
You mean Onibaba?
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Polyfags are the worst. Just pick one, it isn't that hard.
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>>289786123
LITTLE little Rika. The one who appeared for one episode in the DEEN anime and has cheeks like a hamster.
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>>289786123
Shmion.
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>>289786123
Mion as wife and Shion for 'cheating'.
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>>289788959
Tbh Oryou was pretty hot back in the day.
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>>289790619
Stop making me hard for this evil hag.
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>>289791513
She's pretty alluring in her younger years. She was also a lot different personality-wise back then.
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>>289791978
That art is nice as fuck. I’ve been meaning to read that but have yet to find a physical release.
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>>289791978
Does this mean Mion might became a callous evil person in her old age?
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>>289794008
It's possible if she doesn't have someone to lean on.
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>>289795572
Imagine if K1 ending up with Rena is the only way to make Mion go L5 naturally.
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>>289795572
we've seen what Sonozakis can do when denied the cock they're lusting after. Shion in Meakashi, or Akane having a sword duel with Oryou over her husband.
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>>289796693
Every piece of Sonozaki drama is some girl-boy nonsense. Why are the women of this family like this?
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>>289798016
it's in their oni bloodline, the sonozakis are literally semen demons
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>>289798128
>play a childish prank on a little girl
>they send you to a village full of demons, witches, psychos, and terrorists
Seems unfair.
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>>289798744
K1's lucky that little girl didn't lose her eye. If he didn't want to get sent to the sonozaki rape dungeon then maybe he shouldn't have been shooting little kids.
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>>289798016
They already have money and status, so romance is the only thing they have to look forward to.
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>>289796638
I think I heared about some story where Mion and Rena both go yandere and fight each other over their obsession with K1.
Does someone here know more about it?
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you cannot POSSIBLY read Tsumihoroboshi and not realize that K1 and Rena are soulmates
Luckily Rena might just be willing to share with Mion
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>>289801420
Tsumi definitely ships them very hard. But I still think he has better chemistry with Mion. Either way, I just wish we could get some sort of definitive answer.
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>>289801802
Marriage with Rena. 3 kids by age 25. More on the way.
Unmarried Mion but she has a son... who loves spending time with "uncle" Keiichi
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>>289801982
Mion has suffered through enough humiliation.
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>>289802958
Would that really be humiliation though
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>>289801420
True, but onikakushi is still the better keirena arc
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>>289803032
Mion is for loving marriage only.
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>>289803610
That scene in the VN was the hottest in the whole series tbqdesu.
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How will Renafags react when the new anime confirms KeiMion?
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>>289798128
Mion looks so sexy in white.
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>>289805320
Give me one reason why they would prioritize the less popular ship.
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>>289786123
Yes
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Why is Rena like this?
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>>289805782
Because true love always wins.
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now here me out
What if
by chance
K1 lost a game. On a really hot day with nobody else at the school. And got held down and used by all four other members of the club.And each of them wound up pregnant (as is the will of fate and the strength of Maebara essence)
What would happen next?
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Will Dragonknight ever make K1 man up and ask Mion to marry him?
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>>289806733
I don't think Satoko and Rika had their first period yet. The average age for that in Japan seems 12-13 from a quick google search. Sorry anon, your fantasies won't come true.
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Does Mion even realize how incredibly beautiful she is?
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Were there any news about the anime after the livestream announcement?
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>>289806334
Like what?
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>>289808432
It has been only 40 days since the announcement, and they didn't even give a title. Give it some time.
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>>289808691
She knows damn well how she's looking on that gym mat. She knows that men are unable to resist the sight of a vulnerable, cute girl.
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I liked the oujou-sama one more and Higurashi really needed a cake teacher
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>>289786123
Hanyu.
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>>289808917
No, anon. Rena is a sweet, innocent girl. She is not for lewding.
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>>289808936
I like the contradiction that Rena can be sweet while also calculative.
When you look at her personality, those things have the same weight. Rena is a traumatized, smart girl who was forced to mature early. One could see her cheerful, childish personality as merely a facade, but I think that the act she puts on isn't an act at all, but instead how she truly feels when she's relaxed and safe.
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>>289804705
Consider
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I wonder if Shion would have a melty if she noticed herself being attracted to K1.
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>>289811335
Love Rena punishing K1
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>>289811372
Didn't she sort of have one?
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>>289811865
No? Shion would never melt down about anything, she is a perfect sister who would never hurt Mion's feelings.
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And yet there is only one cute and canon pairing with K1 and it's with his true love Satoko
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>>289806733
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>>289811372
that's literally the inciting moment for what happens later in meakashi
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>>289811911
She also tortured Mion and killed people close to her.
Hinamizawa syndrome acts on what the person is feeling and blows it out of proportion.
Under normal circumstances, she wouldn't even think about hurting Mion, but in Meakashi we can see her feeling a bit jealous that Mion gets to have someone she likes while in her case, Satoshi was missing.
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>>289812244
Imagine repopulating Hinamizawa with them...
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>>289812244
holy shit, even Rika-chan?
There should be one floating in the air behind them too.
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>>289786123
Mion.
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>>289812244
What a nightmare…
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>>289812531
Can you impregnate a ghost?
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>>289812244
do they all really make that scary face in the OVA
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>>289814831
Yes. Kira is pure sex.
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>>289786123
Mion (Shion)
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What if I bend over in front of Rena?
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>>289817839
Potentially dangerous if you’re a cute girl with a nice butt.
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>>289814722
certainly worth a try
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Alien goat ghost pussy…
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>>289821512
does she ever USE her gun?
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>>289786123
the correct answer is shmion of course
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>>289821672
Satoko borrows it in Sotsu. I think Ryukishi originally had some ideas for it, but changed his mind.
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>>289812244
The horror
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>>289824764
made for double paizuri
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With the barrier on Mion going L5 broken so to speak in Sotsugyou, do you think DEEN will treat it as something they can also do freely? Or do you think they’ll reset the lore?
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>>289786123
Mion. Satoshi is tied to Shion like a boat anchor.
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>>289786606
cute
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>>289800616
Rena going yandere over Keiichi x Mion was the premise of a console arc concept, but R07 vetoed the idea since he thought it'd ruin how people looked at their friendship in other arcs.

Then they proposed a more light hearted love triangle in Miotsukushi, but yet again the idea was rejected by R07 who said it'd feel like there was no way back if a love triangle happened in a "good ending" world.
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>>289821672
In the comedy arcs. First time is Hirukowashi (the jewels of love one).
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Don’t want to go to /jp/ so I’ll say it here. I just finished reading Umineko chapter two. It was not what I expected but I liked it.
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>>289829147
he was right, I really appreciate how Mion and Rena generally treat their friendship as more important than any feelings one might have for K1.
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>>289821672
os it even real or just a prop?
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>>289830177
I love how mad Rena gets at Keiichi for being dense in Watanagashi. She’s a true friend.
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I give the doll to Teppei
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>>289830470
Watanagashi Keiichi is a faggot even by his normal standards.
Rena did deserve the doll though. Look at how happy she is.
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>>289830327
It's a modified bb gun with enhanced power. R07 intended to use it in the main plot but dropped it due to some real life incident at the time according to an interview. Although I haven't seen anyone tracking down what incident it was.
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>>289830994
Why does real life keep anticipating his plots?
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>>289786123
the new anime sucks but the artstyle is so fucking kyute
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>>289830988
I like how Rena was willing to give the doll to Mion but noted that this wouldn't fix her mood as it's not about the doll.
Attraction to Mion somehow never crossed K1's mind because "but she's my friend" and that she dresses like a guy.
How do you not find this cute tomboy attractive?
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>>289832846
he pretty much refused to see her that way to not mess with the club dynamic or her "leader" role. It took her antics in the Shion disguise to start breaking that down
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>>289786245
Only way
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>>289831534
I think many people would appreciate if he finally came up with less blatant excuses or be more honest.
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>>289786123
>cute tomboy
>insane yandere obsessed with a dude in a koma
how is this even a question?
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>>289832846
>>289833026
cause tomboys ain't shit, look how quickly he folded on seeing her in angel mort outift.
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>>289833884
The most off-putting thing about Shion is that she is a slut, not the yandere part.
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>>289833942
He's just a teenage boy, of course he's gonna fold when a girl comes at him in some slutty waitress outfit
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>>289786123
shion needs to be hugged, loved, and to get laid... I might as well volunteer as tribute
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>>289834480
Are you an awkward, shy, tired, blonde boy from an abusive household?
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>>289834480
Shion already has the twink now and forever.
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>>289834602
>Rena commissioned Mii-chan to omochikaeri Keiichi-kun
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>>289832257
That's Akio Watanabe for you
The fucking master of character design.
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Why are there NO good Rena doujins
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>>289834782
Close, but not quite.
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Give me your theories on the new anime. So far we only know that it's a "new story", Deen is returning and Rena is on the poster.
I think the best approach would be to return to the roots. Instead of high stakes cosmic witch battles, it should go back to being the smaller scale, claustrophobic psychological horror.
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>>289832257
ROKKU MUST BE STOPPED
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Source: @niyane
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>>289840738
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>>289837024
Because she is very cute and pure, so most fans don't like to look at her like that.
>>289839681
>it should go back to being the smaller scale, claustrophobic psychological horror.
How do you even do that? Higurashi's horror was tied to its mystery. Now that it's solved, there is no going back.
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>>289839681
>>289840851
maybe focus on other characters like Oishi, Sonozaki yakuza family, throw in Satoshi, try making it a police procedural like in Himatsubushi.
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>>289840738
>>289840775
Nice. I’m happy about new designs getting us more fanart.
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>>289840851
>Because she is very cute and pure
Cute and pure girls don't
1. beat up their old friends with a bat unprovoked
2. try to blow up schools to stop aliens
3. kill their dad's new mistress and chop her into little pieces
4. claw their skin to get the maggots out
5. go on schizo tirades about their local deity always watching (You), throwing at least two of their friends into insanity
Even if she was totally innocent in everything above (she isn't), the very fact that it is regular behaviour for her disqualifies her for being pure.
She is very cute though I agree.
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>>289839681
I have to wonder how they’d recreate a small scale horror situation like the original chapters now. New villain? They can’t just use Takano again, right? It’d have to be something completely new, and it makes me fear that doing cosmic witch shenanigans would actually be easier for them to do.
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>>289843947
All justified
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>>289840851
>How do you even do that? Higurashi's horror was tied to its mystery. Now that it's solved, there is no going back.

>>289845889


Introduce a new mystery? Really, it was basically what Gou was attempting to do, it just undermined itself due to the fake remake premise resulting in a lot of rehashed content even for "new" tragedies and a director that openly -wanted- the show to look trashy/silly like a B horror movie, which hurt the atmosphere. And eventually, of course, also messing up the set up for the new main villain, which felt too grounded and down to earth for the show's plot.

A new mystery could be done by either supernatural influence resulting in changing what's going behind the scenes even though it's the same location and time (like Gou) or setting up the story at another time where different rumors and conspiracies can be developed (like in Reiwa, which stumbled more due to having a new cast and bad status quo for old character that just lost most fans and then having a horrible conclusion) or location where you could have different things happening behind the scenes, so the old answers wouldn't be valid. It just needs to be well executed this time.

Really, take Reiwa's plot with Polaris, but make it happen, say, around 1990 or so, with the cast in college, returning for a vacation to see a changed Hinamizawa, rather than forcing some "new generation" bullshit and it probably would have been much more successful, as long as the ending wasn't the joke that it was in the real story. R07 really has to let villains be punished as villains.
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>>289840851
Here's my idea. It could take place in some random fragment in the past before the events of Matsuribayashi, so Rika is still stuck in her usual script of observing and not knowing how to alter her fate. The mystery will be about multiple fragments bleeding into each other and disturbing reality. The story will be from Rena's pov and it will center around her playing a detective and going on an investigation of the weird phenomena happening in the village (think stuff like newspapers from the future showing Hinamizawa being gassed or some people not existing at all). As she digs deeper, she will begin to hide what she knows from others, to keep them safe. This will result in her accidentally spiralling into hinamizawa syndrome like Keiichi did in Onikakushi when he tried to uncover the mysteries, only to become paranoid.
Rika would be the one to notice that Rena knows things she shouldn't be able to and decide to try to ground her back to reality and cooperate with her on finding out what's going on.
It's not fleshed out, but I think this could serve as the basis of the fever dream atmosphere that was heavily present back in the original question arcs.
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>>289786123

Satoko.

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>>289847163
Sextoko breeding
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Hope to see the REAL Rika and Satoko be good friends again.
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>>289843947
Rina deserved it
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>>289848584
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>>289848976
I refuse to believe such a cynical view.
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Was this justified?
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>>289849780
We don't know how their relationship would change when Satoshi is cured.
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>>289850258
I know Ryukishi says that Satoko may pull away from Rika if that happened, but honestly I think he’s just sowing more seeds of drama unnecessarily. Both Rika and Satoko have shown themselves to be ready to sacrifice life for the other’s sake. I’m not going to easily believe they’d stop being close over anything. Call me delusional.
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>>289806788
He hates Keiichi now.
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>>289810366
That's a nice reading and I agree. She is innocent and childish with her friends because that's who she wants to be and probably who she would've been if the world didn't get in the way and force her to learn of awful truths too young. I remember in Tsumi she says that she understands how a woman like Rina could come to control a man like her father through sex; that combined with her mother's infidelity has likely given her a cynical view of sexual relations, but around her friends she can pretend that doesn't exist and her innocence can be truly sincere.
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>>289833026
>>289834602
This stupid fucker needs to marry her already.
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KeiMiifags are some of the most boring dogshit redditfags alive
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>>289854773
Imagine wasting time comatose when you have THIS waiting for you at home
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>>289833231
Mental illness.
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keirika > *
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>>289845889
Entirely new side-cast. Only the main 6 are the same. New villain is hidden among the new side-cast.
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>>289847163
Fucking love Henyaan and wish he'd do more Rena
But with K1 not old men.
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>>289861644
That's a very cute doll
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>>289861644
>>289861756
If the Wata doll was a mini Mion, Rena would've just taken it by force
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>>289808691
Rena is dominating K1 all the time
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>>289860280
I think it's funny how he draws Rena with K1 most of the time but Satoko with Teppei and other uncles. Get fucked Satokeicucks
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>>289843947
Literally all of it was either 1000% justified (Rina was self defense) or provoked by a temporary physical illness
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>>289861876
>>289861756
When you think about it, Mion is Rena's real lif doll. They're friends but Mion is more of a toy for Rena.
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Keiichi and Rena need to get married already
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>>289861876
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>>289863948
R07 is a coward so he will never commit to it, but everyone knows the truth
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>>289864358
Shipping the core cast would cause a meltdown within the fandom and alienate everyone who had a different ship in mind. It's better for both Ryukishi and the fans to make endless speculations as it generates discussions.
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>>289865038
Nah, if most people could handle Rei they can handle this. It can also be a multi-route vn sort of a thing. Everyone will only play their girl's route and be done with it.
The real issue is that something like that will completely change the group dynamics that we know, probably for the worse, so you can't continue with it for long. But if it's just a short epilogue for each girl it would be fine.
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>>289865225
I meant it as official canonization of a ship, which wouldn't resonate well.
Kira had a nice episode where Rena and Mion were engaged in a love triangle over K1 but it ended lightheartedly and is seen as just a cute sidestory.
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>>289861756
I need Rena doll
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>>289866534
How it should have been
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>>289865225
>Nah, if most people could handle Rei they can handle this.
I mean, most people couldn't handle Rei. It was a complete flop. Most stores didn't even bother with pre-order incentives by the time Irotoutoshi started and Natsumi Kei was complaining the lack of printings. Apparently the last volume got a very small shipment and some Japanese fans on twitter said they couldn't even find it in stores.

Although Rei with the whole "No pairings!" was even worse than making one pairing canon, since it just made no one happy at all.
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Just give K1 something cool to do and people will momentarily forget about pairings. If he was actually useful as a character in Sotsu then we might be having different conversations.
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>>289862276
Notice how nobody is talking about that crack ship besides one person? lmao
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>>289870426
Anon's face while posting this
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>>289870369
The lack of focus on the core cast in Sotsu was one of the reasons for it's downfall. K1, Mion and Rena felt like npcs with no agency.
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>>289786123
Shion (Mion) Alpharius(Omegon)
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>>289808691
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>>289871237
Higurashi simply works better when everyone considerately shares the spotlight.
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>>289871750
It should have been the other way around. Rena is a KFC girl.
That was established all the way back in Onikakushi.
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Rena-chan…go easy on the fried chicken…
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>>289871750
The smiles on the two happy meals really elevate this
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>>289786123
Why does everyone molest Mion?
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>>289786123
Shion rapes Mion.
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>>289876606
She's pretty shy, girly and vulnerable on the inside.
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>>289786123
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>>289876606
and that's a good thing
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>>289877531
Poor Mion is constantly in danger of being assaulted by a sexually frustrated Shion.
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Which one?
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>>289880479
>two hags vs. a real little girl
Sorry Furudes, but the answer is obvious.
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>>289880745
Teppeis cum dump
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>>289880974
You get killed in every timeline Teppeicuck.
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>>289880479
Hanyu is a old lady that had a daughter.
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Shipfags, sincere question.
Would you be able to accept defeat with grace if someone other than your girl won? Would you be happy for the winner? Higurashi is all about friendship and personal sacrifice, after all.
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>>289881676
Of course not. If my ship doesn't sail then the blood must flow.
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>>289786185
But what about Mion while being Shion?
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>>289881676
Rena is the promo girl, so, I wouldn't surprised if Keiichi ended up with her even if I'd prefer Mion x Keiichi.

Going for no pairings at all in Reiwa was just stupid.
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>>289881676
Satoko won at the end
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She's cute
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>>289883834
It's actually fucking crazy how cute crazy Rena is.
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>>289881676
well, my girl is Shion and she's running unopposed.
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>>289883938
the scars are a nice touch. i don't think the vn ever mentions others noticing them in speech or thought.
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literally
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>>289883938
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>>289881676
Depends on the on the girl and how the story goes, but I am not fully against it.
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>>289884588
She says in tsumi they were healed by the time she returned to Hinamizawa. I like clean skin, and I assume most people do as well, so I like the decision.
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>>289881676
Either all the girls become K1's harem or I seethe with rage.
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>>289885652
>She says in tsumi they were healed by the time she returned to Hinamizawa.
she does say this, yeah, though if you've ever known someone with cutting scars, the scars remain visible even after "fading." she describes cutting herself deeply and many times and doesn't cover her skin, so they would be very visible years later.
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>>289886218
Anime healing power.
I also always had a theory that she has some sort of supernatural powers because of this and her sharp instincts and resistance to HS.
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>>289884707
>tfw these girls are 100+ years old
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>>289883938
Rena will kill me with her thighs
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>>289883938
True
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>>289889023
Why are her thighs so THICK
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>>289889170
Gotta be all that running through the woods and climbing around the junkyard trash heap.
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>>289883834
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>>289889250
I think K1 is winning
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>>289881676
Rena, Mion, and Satoko I could accept with grace. Rika with some reluctance. Shion is right out.
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>>289889593
And looks like Rena is enjoying the moment aswell. There's no need for serious fighting thanks to this.
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>>289889746
>Satoko
Ew.
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requesting more Rena's feet.
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>>289890896
poor mion
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>>289891047
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>>289891020
I like how Rena's thighs and Mion's boobs squish together here.
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>>289891148
Mion is for bullying even in sloppa
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>>289891060
>>289891047
>>289891030
>>289891020
>>289891013

Oyashiro-Sama bless you
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>>289891196
Have a last one
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>>289806334
Puffy vulva ;__;
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>>289891195
Oh damn, didn't know about this art of GoldenSmurf.
Wish he'd actually redo the VN arcs' sprites. I, for one, actually like his work and think it goes well with Higurashi.
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>>289891202
>>289891030
>>289891013
Okay, I have to ask. Who's the artist and what's the sauce? I haven't seen these images on Pixiv.
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Why is there a retard seething about Satokei here? Kill yourself
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>>289892069
>>289892095
They're both sloppa from the thread we got after the announcement. I don't remember the name of the second artist though.
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my spermatozoons inside Rika's womb
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>>289892168
Oh fuck. Either I'm getting old, or AI is just getting better.
I actually thought that was legit TGS art with AI coloring.
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my spermatozoons inside Rena's worms
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>>289892300
AI's the one getting too strong. Still a few flaws and clunky but it's hard to tell sometimes
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>>289891020
>>289891195
>Rena and Mion during the year before K1 got there
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>>289892473
p-poor Mion..
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>>289892473
Rena's toy
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I actually liked Gou's art style you guys.
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>>289892300
AI has gotten a lot better but you can still spot the difference. It still sometimes makes lines wobbly, adds a lot of gloss and makes clothes a bit too tight.
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>>289892693
This is what a predator looks like
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>>289892693
hinamizawa's top teen prostitute
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>>289892606
The highly saturated colours was an interesting sidestep from the more bleached out Deen designs. Personally though I would prefer less gloss and sharper edges.
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Double ASMR with Shion and Mion, whispering in my ear, brushing my hair, kissing me, please and thank you.
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>New Madoka and Higurashi anime
BIG news.
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>>289892368
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>>289893491
Its strange how attached people became to Madoka with how short the series is.
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What is this place? Mion's house?
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>>289893817
Time loop stories (it's ackshually timeline jumping, but whatever) are just inherently better, since they give you the opportunity to theorize about failed timelines that weren't shown.
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>>289893856
Yeah, that’s what it looks like.
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>>289893856
Yes, it's shown that she lives in a massive, traditional but aging japanese estate.
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>>289894182
>re zero
lol lmao.
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>>289894391
Am I the only one who thinks rezero is a blatant Higurashi+Umineko ripoff?
>Witches who reside on a higher plane overlook and manipulate everything in the real world
>Main character has a time looping power, which is actually timeline jumping, the world still goes on after his death
Not only that, but the witches are also tea nerds
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>>289887973
Rena will kill me with how cute she is.
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>>289894644
re zero doesn't even merit that level of thought. It should just be forgotten.
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>>289893817
It has everything to be popular:
Good story, a slowly unfolding mystery, unique art style, subversion of the magical girl genre, there are actually stakes in the show and morally grey characters.
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>>289894182
Worst aspect of higurashi. It's sad how it's somehow what stuck with most people.
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>>289894989
>Worst aspect of higurashi
That's fucking bullshit, but elaborate, please.
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>>289895044
NTA, but I can see why some people might not like it. The best parts of Higurashi were from the time when it was a psychological horror mixed with countryside crime drama and sprinkled with mysterious supernatural elements.
Then time loops were introduced which made it more about cosmic stakes in altering fate. I liked the shocking reveal and the interconnection of all those stories, but it did shift the genre and not everyone took a liking to that.
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>>289894644
Don’t remember witches in the first season. Dropped it after that.
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>>289896104
>Don’t remember witches in the first season
Satella, the witch of envy. I'm pretty sure she was mentioned in S1.
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>>289896088
Really?
I for one really liked the twist that explained why the story was just reset with each arc. I thought it was a really unique thing R07 had done there.
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Lads you make me want to play the game. I watched DEEN 2006 and half of 2007 about 15 years ago. How spoiled am I? Is my experience of it tainted? For reference I liked muv luv a lot due to all the SoL elements that help you get to know the characters, but if I'd known about ch*mp and its arc beforehand then the experience would've probably been half of what it was unspoiled.
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>>289896335
I watched DEEN, then read the manga, then played the VNs.
It was still great and felt like the world got expanded even more. The VN had a completely different vibe and it showed new things despite experiencing Higurashi twice by that time.
I think you should go for it, the VN is a different vibe altogether. Just patch out the garbage OG sprites and backgrounds.
The Kizuna mod has new backgrounds and animations, Mangagamer has only remade the sprites, there's a Mei patch with passione's sprites and then there's GoldenSmurf's own sprite mod, but that's only for Onikakushi, if you want to be a bit wild.
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>>289896335
You get a much better understanding of the story when you're in the heads of these characters(and for a much longer time than the anime). Just reading the first chapter I felt like I understood Keiichi better than from the entire anime.
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>>289895044
The best higurashi parts had very little to nothing to do with timelines jumping. The story started to lose its magic starting from minagoroshi, and even in minagoroshi itself the best part (Satoko) wasn't related to it.
The timeline jumping itself is not well-written. Basically ryukishi though of the destination without thinking how to go there. That's why he will never make proper "earlier loops" stories, they will either require making Rika very dumb or making everyone around her unlikable.
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>>289896626
>>289896721
Thanks, I'll give it a shot
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>>289889537
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>>289893598
Cute
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>>289896290
I liked the twist aswell but you can clearly see the change in the tone of the series. When genres switch, it inevitably disappoints some fans. Also time travel has always been a controversial genre on it's own.
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>>289896840
Part of Tsumihoroboshi's climax on the protagonist side is heavily based on the timeloops too though. Keiichi remembering the past loops, Rika attempting to change this world's fate even if she knows it's supposed to go wrong...

>Basically ryukishi though of the destination without thinking how to go there. That's why he will never make proper "earlier loops" stories, they will either require making Rika very dumb or making everyone around her unlikable.

That said, I don't disagree with this completely. R07 threw some comments about early loops but he likely never had a real timeline for them drawn out, which would make it harder to go back to them afterwards since then he could just end up contradicting himself on the early loops due to the random comments about early loops he threw around clearly without much planning. And on top of that he noticed the plans he had for early Hanyuu to justify the loops would make her unlikeable (considering how he mentioned the idea of Hanyuu not wanting the loops to end or find the culprit in an interview AFTER Minagoroshi and saying he'd address it in Matsuribayashi only to not touch on that at all by the time Matsuribayashi came out) and so just hoped people didn't focus on that.
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>>289898853
Keiichi didn't "remember" a "previous loop". There is no loop in the first place from anyone's perspective but Rika's. What she is doing is hopping from one timeline to the past of the another one, but all the worlds continue normally after her death. What Keiichi did was that he saw what happens in a parallel universe, and Rika's timeline hopping had no effect on this. Replace her role in the story with that of a normal girl and you can reach the same end of Keiichi "remembering". That's why I don't think the time looping is as integral to tsumi's ending as you think it is.
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>>289899457
>Keiichi didn't "remember" a "previous loop". There is no loop in the first place from anyone's perspective but Rika's.
I mean, Rika herself knows she's going between parallel worlds, which is why she doesn't just kill herself the moment something goes wrong in the original story, only doing it when she knew she'd just be captured, tortured and then killed by Shion.

Either way, doesn't matter what you want to call it, this mechanism is clearly important for Tsumi's climax. Rika understanding what Keiichi was talking about is really important to allow that entire scene to work. And then you have Rika herself facing Rena near the finale which gave necessary time for Keiichi.
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>>289898853
He wrote himself into a corner with Hanyuu, but you could justify her selfish actions (or perhaps lack off). She doesn't like seeing anyone suffer but she also doesn't want things to end, because it would mean accepting that one day, she will become lonely again. After a millennia of isolation and waiting for the 8th consecutive Furude daughter to be born, she doesn't want to go through the ordeal again. That's why she doesn't do much and just hangs around.
It puts her into a morally gray area, but her reasons are tragic rather than malicious. Saikoroshi resolved this by making her say that on the day when Rika dies, she won't reset the timeline again to no longer maker her suffer.
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>>289901702
I want to take her home.
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>>289900255
Honestly, his Hanyuu bashing habit is getting a bit annoying.
The fans don't hate Hanyuu as much as he does.
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>>289843947
Stop, I can only get so erect!
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>>289901702
I hope she comes back one day
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>>289903576
honoka that you?
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>>289903623
Honoka isn't that cute
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>>289894831
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>>289904029
Behelit?
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>>289900255
Yeah, I don't mean she was meant to be a villain. The problem is exactly that. It was likely meant to be a flaw in a character meant to be likeable and close to the protagonists. This interview came after Minagoroshi, and its ending clearly positioned her as an ally for the next arc. That's why he shoved everything under the rug though. If Matsuribayashi actually spent time going into that, it'd just make it harder for people to like her.
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>>289904221
Red eyeorb, since I couldn't find a proper Behelit pong
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>>289843947
>unprovoked
There is no way it was completely unprovoked.
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Tattooed slut
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>>289907141
Tattooed wife.
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>>289896626
>Just patch out the garbage OG sprites and backgrounds.
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Slut. She couldn't get enough of one oni tattoo, and expanded it to be full-back with a tramp stamp.
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Is Mion too old to be a meguca?
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>>289908352
Its technically a hannya.
>>289908578
She would be around Mami's age.
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>>289908341
I like the OG sprites for the memes, but I can't believe people actually stared at these ugly gremlin visages with bloated hands for hours while playing the VNs and said "hell yeah"
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>>289908664
The photo backgrounds helped with the eeriness. And the 2000's era moe aesthetic was at its peak at the time.
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>>289908352
wouldn't Mion's tattoo look all weird as she grows up if she got the tattoo at like 8 years old?
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>>289908860
Not really. Tattoos expand and contract with the skin, a growth spurt won't make it stretch out so much that it'd disappear, or become unrecognizable.
Not to mention how traditional Japanese tattoo techniques are far more durable than modern machine tattooing, but also slower and more painful.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ysjl5eYZIc
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>>289908664
Old sprites and backgrounds are better IMO. It's more of a debate in Umineko's case but Higurashi's console sprites and BGs are just really generic and bland.
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>>289909832
Its amusing that the original Umineko sprites are a step down even if there's some great Beatrice expressions.
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>>289909832
Dreadful
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>>289909949
I really like Maria's design.
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>>289909832
For me it's the hair volume.
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>>289886218
couldn't she use make-up to cover them?
I don't know anything about concealer or whatever women use but that seems right
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmQkzRUsado
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>>289909832
isnt there a modified version of the vn that allows you to mix sprites, backgrounds and more shit ? or was that for seacats?
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>>289913692
I remember at least one of the mods I had let you mix and match sprites and backgrounds to an extent.
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>>289913692
Yeah, 07th mod for Higurashi allows you to mix and match backgrounds and sprites of different styles.
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my beloved
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Rena...
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>>289909832
I played this game with the Steam/Mangagamer sprites and backgrounds.
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>>289914683
Me too. People hate them nowadays but honestly I don't think I would have loved the game as much as I do if not for them.
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>>289914683
You madman
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>>289909832
I played Onikakushi with the OG backgrounds/sprites and the Mangagamer music
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>>289892368
What's that? Stable Diffusion, or Illustrious?
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>>289911032
it's possible in the way no one ever seeing or feeling them is also technically possible. it's not addressed beyond rena's acknowledgement of them, so it's never extended beyond that.
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>>289914798
That's not the right sword.
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>>289914683
The updated backgrounds are the best, but the manga gamer character sprites feel flat. The console ones did a better job.
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Just get the version where you can cycle through OG/console/new sprites
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What would you talk about with this drunk meeper?
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>>289908578
No, but she'd never fall for QB's lies. Shion, Reina and Satoko, on the other hand...
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>>289908664
Rika's OG sprite is cuter than all of her later ones tbnipah with you
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>>289917795
>find rika drinking somewhere
>just tell her "takano is the culprit"
>do not elaborate
>watch her panic in her drunken state
>bet with other anons on if she'll remember it in the next morning or not
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>>289917811
I can't unsee og Rika's sprite as a meme material
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>there are people ITT who didn't read higu with the og sprites
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>>289918610
I can't take Rena's uso da seriously when she has hands like bowling balls.
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I tried some of the new sprites and they’re just so lifeless. R07 is really good at expressions.
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Leland Palmer is Kinzo but written interestingly.
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fuck it, requesting more Rena's feet
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>>289922852
Do you think we'll ever get something like kira again , it would be interesting if it happened
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>>289922852
Not canon. Their real reaction would be something like this.
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>>289923129
That's Rei.
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>>289923129
07th Expansion doesn't write joke arcs anymore.
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>>289923240
There's dark thoughts behind Rika's eyes.
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>>289923240
Rena still looks enamored
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>>289923314
Now that I think about it, did GouSotsu have any comedy sol scenes that weren't just taken from the original arcs?
When was even the last time Ryukishi wrote a comedy scene?
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>>289923247
Fair enough , they look more alike than the first two seasons , funnily enough i think i somehow i forgot most of the fanservice in the first 3 seasons and remembered most of the fanservice from the shitpost season , explains why when i read the manga after i wondered why i got hard every 20 pages, of course it was made after but it does seem consistent enough
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>>289923511
>When was even the last time Ryukishi wrote a comedy scene?
The tit grab scene in the first hour of Umineko. Ciconia was completely joyless.
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>>289922852
Nah
https://litter.catbox.moe/rw2pd5.jpg
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>>289923454
Yeah, this one is accurate. K1 is always cute in Rena's eyes no matter what.
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>>289923511
>>289923769
The scene of the club members meeting up in Satokowashi was funny, though it did have an undercurrent of depression from Satoko and Rika putting on an act the whole time.
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>>289924062
I dropped gousotsu when they forced Mion to L5.
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>>289923511
>did GouSotsu have any comedy sol scenes that weren't just taken from the original arcs
most of the comedy in Gou was unintentional
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>>289924165
Good call.
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>>289924415
Passione were so incompetent. Every second looked like garbage except for that one sequence of Rika doing her dance at the Watanagashi festival they used over and over again.
You know the one.
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>>289924415
>>289924877
There wasn’t a single scene they remade that looked better than DEEN in any capacity.
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Sonozaki pits…
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>>289923511
>>289924062

The marker game in Onidamashi was new, but pretty much just that. Note even the college club game was taken straight out of the original VN.

>When was even the last time Ryukishi wrote a comedy scene?

This actually has happened a lot. Keep in mind he has released several side-stories and they were mostly comedic.

There was Mehagashi, with the magical swimsuits, originally a Gou DVD bonus, eventually converted to a VN and included in Hou+.

There was a Hirukowashi sequel with Eua as a live reading drama, with the club facing each other in games for the jewels of eternal love.

The Lambdadelta story R07 wrote for Mei heavily focused on Mion preparing and playing against Rena in a club game to get some coupon for an event where she'd get to dress as a bride with Keiichi as her groom.

And last year there was the Hinamizawa Doujinshi Expo short story, with every club member making their own doujinshi aiming to make the most popular one among the club.
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>>289924877
I think the director took the B-movie style by the wrong end. Instead of seeing it as a unique charm stemming from low budget and technical difficulties, he opted for the atmosphere being so absurd that it's comedic.
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>>289928891
Everything about the production was a bad match for Higurashi. Bad studio, bad director, bad redesigns for the characters. And then you have the worst script of all time.
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>>289929415
Imo the sequel masked as a remake wasn't a bad idea. It gave us a different look on the arcs even if it was inferior and dropped in changes that kept people speculating. The colossal fuckup came after that with things like
>Satoko's character assassination
>Rika's obsession with escaping the village to the higher society despite stating that she just wants to live a peaceful quiet life in the village
>core cast acting like background characters with no agency
>long time sought out moments like Mion expressing her feelings towards K1 or Satoko meeting comatose Satoshi were thrown out just like that with little impact
>Eua being a boring villain that just laughs at unfunny situations
>unnecessary redemptions like Teppei
>out of nowhere Dragon Ball fight for cool effects
>Sotsu being a boring slog of "look, Satoko did this"
The premise had it's potential but the way it was executed was retarded.
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>>289929858
Seething that george is dead instead of ange even when she's dying, #haters gonna hate
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>>289929895
>Imo the sequel masked as a remake wasn't a bad idea
they could've gotten the same effect just through Oni's wildly different ending, then focus on the "new" story instead of continuing the remix arcs.
The story could even take place in those fragments still, but focus on Rika trying to understand the how/why instead of just redoing the first half of each chapter.
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>>289929895
>Imo the sequel masked as a remake wasn't a bad idea.
It was a bad idea that only works once. After Oni, doing the same for the other arcs was pointless. Just give us new stories after making the point that these aren't the old arcs.

You end up with the arcs either just having no mystery at all or forcing characters into roles they don't belong to keep the "remake" atmosphere going (Onidamashi and Watadamashi had no mystery regarding the culprits, aside from "Satoko injecting them drove them crazy", and even if they tried to keep the mystery, you'd still end up with unsatisfying answers - like how Wataakashi Mion is forced to pretty much redo Shion's crimes in order to keep the "fake Watanagashi" set up rather than committing crimes that would make more sense for her character).
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>>289931000
It was a good hook that made people interested in the mystery, though I agree that it was enough to just leave it at Onikakushi. Also this means that Sotsu could have been incorporated into Gou rather being separate. They had little ideas on what to do but wanted to stretch it across 40 episodes.
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>>289929895
Yeah it could’ve worked if the direction they took the show in wasn’t catastrophic. I actually did enjoy the first three Gou arcs even if they were inferior to the originals. It was still interesting to see how things were changing and speculate as to why. And when Keiichi opened the door for Rena in Onidamashi I was very moved. But then the clock fight was ridiculous. Passione didn’t know how to take it seriously. Nekodamashi also started off great, and fooled me into holding false hope for the show, and then Satoko pulls out a gun. Like what the fuck.

That’s a good list of fuck ups you have there. It’s insane how bad some of those choices were.
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Only doing the remake gimmick for the first arc would’ve been a great idea. You play it completely straight until the last episode, which would’ve been much more shocking than the Rika red eyes shot from the first episode. Then arc two switches to Rika’s perspective as she tries to figure out the mystery.
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>>289933479
they were originally going to have hanyuu scene at the end of Oni instead of like the 2nd episode.
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>>289927077
Didn’t realize this was a webm.
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>>289929415
The designs looked good. They were the only thing about it that was good.
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>>289936325
Keiichi’s design is the only one I feel is an improvement over the DEEN ones.
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>>289929895
It was for marketing reasons so that new fans don't get overwhelmed by the original +50 episodes. And it worked many higurashi fans came into it through gou.
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>>289938093
I can’t imagine watching Gou and deciding to become a fan.
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>>289939742
Once people started speculating about a sequel, a lot of new viewers went on to see the originals or read the vns, as to not get spoiled further.
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>Capgras syndrome, or Capgras delusion, is a rare psychological condition where a person firmly believes that a close family member, friend, or pet has been replaced by an identical-looking imposter.
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>>289941531
It looks like this is close to what Rena had in ch6 .
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What if Gou and Sotsu was actually about Satoko trying to undermine others and keep them down in a desperate, tragic attempt to hold onto the good times? I am not talking about the time looping mess where Satoko shows little remorse for killing her friends, but instead her keeping down others in the present.
Satoko would then suffer a complete breakdown and irrationally try to self-destruct to no longer be a burden to others. The resolution would be about the club realizing that they have moved on too fast and left behind the most vulnerable one. Choosing to not judge and instead work through things together as a tightly-knit group of friends is what the main theme of Higurashi is even about.
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>>289943318
Cute
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>>289943334
Rena is such a shameless temptress.
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>>289942160
Anything would’ve been better than her turning into a heartless vindictive witch. The transformation is completely unconvincing. Are you seriously asking me to believe getting thrown into lesbo schoolgirl jail caused her to gain magic powers? Hilarious how Eua makes zero sense as a character or plot mechanic if you’re only familiar with Higurashi.
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>>289944335
She just acts naturally
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>>289945300
This makes it even worse. She does it naturally with no calculative intent.
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>>289945188
>if you’re only familiar with Higurashi
Yes, this is it. You can actually trace majority of the issues down to Ryukishi trying to force an Umineko connection. Rika and Satoko act out of character and things just happen in order to force an outcome that was retarded in the first place.
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https://h.uguu.se/hDAtoKBF.webm
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>>289946265
>no kiss
where's the romance?
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>>289947120
reserved for her real partner

https://h.uguu.se/nOiSblDG.mp4
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>>289946265
The boobs expansion makes it shit. Also K1 would never do this.
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>>289947387
>Also K1 would never do this.
He probably will when his balls drop.
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>Rena being a whore
>AI
>Rena being a whore
>AI
Oyashiro-sama WILL punish you degenerates
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>>289947610
She is a whore though, watch the OVAs.
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>>289948229
Kira isn't canon
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>>289948248
Yes it is.
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>>289947610
This. Rena is actually kind of pure, relatively speaking.
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>>289948248
>>289948310
None of the anime are canon. The only real canon is the original novel plus Saikoroshi.
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>>289948229
>lighthearted non-canon scenes overblown for comedic purposes
No
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Nonstop Higu anime until everyone becomes a witch.
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>>289951855
You will rike witches.
You will rike the cosmic chess.
You will read my true magnum opus Umineko.
You won't rike the rural crime drama about mentally unstable individuals murdering each other over a supernatural curse and government conspiracy.
-DragonKnightReiNana
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>>289952585
I actually do like Umineko with all its oddities, but they should never had infected Higurashi.
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>>289951855
I want to see Mion in a witch costume.
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>>289956155
what would Mion be the witch of?
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>>289958087
Something that reflects her calm and firm nature that prevents her from going insane like her dumb friends. Maybe something like the Witch of Quietude.
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Umineko?

https://h.uguu.se/MVvmSzvR.mp4
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>>289945188
>>289945654
So are you guys completely against Satoko being the origin of Lambda? I feel like if it was done well, then people wouldn't have minded so much.
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>>289961646
outside of Bern, have any of these attempted serious connections between Higu and umineko worked out? not counting easter eggs and thematic references.
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>>289962189
Hanyuu -> Featherine used to be pretty explicit too. This bit basically was all in the Umineko VN itself, aside from outright mentioning Hanyuu's name (and the Umi manga outright shows Hanyuu's design when talking about Bern's master during Higurashi rather than Featherine's).

R07 actually had to make things more confusing with Eua in Gou/Sotsu, with "lingering trace of Hanyuu" acting as a separate character, because if he just went with his original idea he'd be outright erasing Hanyuu's character from Higurashi once Eua appeared (even so he did write a one shot story in Mei where the current Hanyuu is portrayed as just Eua playing two roles at once and talking with herself to avoid boredom).

Although, really, Eua is the peak of R07's mishandling of these ties. He wants to keep them vague so readers can ignore the connections if they don't care for them, but for someone like Eua "keeping it vague" basically means giving her no real backstory, which makes her presence in Gou/Sotsu feel like she has no ties to the story and is just a random God that appeared out of nowhere. It's actively detrimental to it compared to if he had just said his ideas openly, even if some people would dislike those ideas too. Because at least that way it'd be clear Eua is connected to the story.
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Do sisters really?
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>>289958735
Witch of old men would be more fitting in this case.
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>>289965433
What’s the point of sisters otherwise?
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>>289965433
That's pretty normal for sisters, especially twins.
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>>289936325
The designs were awful. Akio Watanabe is a hack.
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>>289970514
I prefer the original, but they are kinda cute
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>>289971454
Rena is cute in any style
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Anyone who says Shion is insane
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>>289971536
It goes without saying
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When is he releasing the next part of Ciconia?
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>>289971683
she's my favorite
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Tatarigoroshi time
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>>289971848
Love Satoko and tatarigoroshi
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>>289786123
Mion. Tomboy supremacy.
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>>289972738
Mion is a fake tomboy.
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>>289971793
When wars and diseases cease to exist in our world.
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>>289972830
Tomboy is a spectrum
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>>289972346
Shame that anime cut the ending
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>>289972346
Nice picture.
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>>289914798
NovelAI.
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hag sex
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>>289971454
Too shiny.



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