It's okay when women do it.
>20 girl harem>1 guy
>>289794505yes because women are cute and hot
>>289794505Both are slop
Girls rule, Boys drool
>>289794505Yeah, I want to fuck the anal cat. Not kirito
Apothecary has better writing and Maomao is cuter. I'd still fuck Kirito.
>>289794505you forgot>shitty attitude>she's only pretending to be ugly
>>289794661NTA sword art online isn't a harem. Kirito has a wife and he's monogamous with her
>>289794505Maomao doesn't get cheat skills for no fucking reason.
>>289794505Maomao is a cute girl I'd like to bone and Kirito is not.
>>289794505Does Asuna rapes Kirito while he PTSD past rape experiences?Because this happens in Apothecary (will see it next season I hope).
>>289794505>Abandoned by her father>Her mother tried to kill her>Lived all her life at a brothel >Kidnapped and sold as a slave non raped only because she was smart enough to hide her charms >Her job is to taste poison that could kill her at any given time Hardly the same as Kirito. You didn´t watch her show.
>>289795157qrd?
>>289794661Because that's the ultimate female sexual fantasy, they don't crave a harem of men, they crave the one single ultimate Gigaultrachad. Having sex with a lot of moderately attractive partners is a male sexual fantasy.
>>289795085It absolutely is a harem, Kirito focusing on Asuna doesn't disqualify it, a fucking harem classic such Love Hina had Keitaro laser focused on Naru.
>>289794505I hate both. If you look at a character such as Kazuma the recurring fantasy in these stories is traveling back in time to be surrounded by a bunch of idiots to feel better about yourself>>289795179Mao Mao is in the genre of wanting to be the most poor victimized person ever while also being the ruler of the world much like Harry Potter. This is a set up for the revenge that they want later.
>>289794505That fucking faggot on the left isn't any man's power fantasy. It's not even a man, it's some effeminate boy.
>>289795438then Love Hina isn't a harem either
>>289794505The girl power fantasy is about a character I like and want to bang, the guy power fantasy is about an annoying, boring faggot.Strip out all the power fantasy elements, and with women you still at least have a cute girl that can carry a basic romcom. With men, if you strip out the power fantasy elements you just have a boring loser with no personality.
>>289794505Then why is Rey Skywalker so hated?
Every time they have sisters and it's "I'm daddy's special favorite" and her father figure doesn't give a single fuck about the other worthless siblings while their mother was evilThe writers have this comical hatred their own sisters and mothersEvery time they go after the most desired man around with dozens of high status women clamoring for him but he conveniently notices only her
Kirito isn't a good comparison the equivalent is a self insert who's been bullied but was sent hundreds years back in the past with supergenius knowledge
>>289795438Harems are designed to reassure women's insecurities because Jinshi in Apothecary has 20 women competing for him
>>289794505>Never strugglesYou can tell whoever made this has never watched a single episode of SAO.
>>289795825Kirito isn't a good comparison in the slightest because he doesn't fit the pretend pity party underdog archetype
>>289794505>Never strugglesGary stu struggles a lot. But mary sue gets away with more because she's a woman, many such cases.
>>289794505> Detective Conan but chinese Pharmacist girl is somehow == jesus kun the banger of thousand’s monodimensional whores and slayer of countless rapists
>>289794505Women and men are not the same, so our expectations of them should not be the same.
>>289795958Mao Mao has more in common with the fake loser outcast LN protagonists who turn out to be secretly the best at everything and Chad is jealous of them
>>289794505Both have their strengths and weaknesses which should be balanced out. Authors also need to be able to contextualise what is a fantasy and shouldn't impact how they see real people regardless of sex. You won't learn much about the opposite sex just from porn personally made for your taste.
>>289794505Don't care. I'll fuck Asuna, Suguha/Leafa and Sinon and cuck Kirito.
>>289795450>Mao Mao is in the genre of wanting to be the most poor victimized person ever while also being the ruler of the world much like Harry Potter.She is a literal servant.
>>289794661If 6 girls are too much then I hope you have the same problem with almost every other harem
>>289795825Yeah these retards will ridicule Kirito but will worship that whiny faggot from Mushoku unapologetically
>>289794505Mao show is boring and she's ugly, just being honest here.
>>289796436>She is a literal servant.The main character wants to be the victim while at the same time the best ever, compare that to every story where the main character has the supposed weakest power or is a bullied nerd but secretly better than everyone else.
>>289794505>She is good at like two things. Pharmacy and deduction.>She is in an extremely weak social position, which frequently comes into play when she is ordered around, punished, beaten etc. She is also proud and stubborn to her own detriment and very easy to manipulate if you know her interests.>It's an effing court romance! This is a genre requirement. And also half her problems are managing how close she feels she should be to that guy in order to not get murdered.>This is not a story about desperate physical fighting (in the beginning, anyway), but about clever girls trying to come out the of the inner court alive and/or powerful. Literally everything is a power struggle of one kind or another. MaoMao is beloved because she is cute and charming and clever. And her story is full of interesting people who have many sides to their personalities and stories, which the reader can explore.
>>289795609Maybe you should stop reading fairytales anon
>>289794505We live in a gynocentric society.
>Kirito never struggled!SAO sucks but anyone who says that doesn't know a single thing about it.
>>289794505I like it when you can look at a meme and see the pure, unadulterated seethe that went into its creation, like the creator's hands were fucking shaking as he cobbled it together in paint
>>289794505This is like saying Justin Bieber was only hated or Twilight. Those were insanely popular and so was Kirito and SAO.
>>289798009I replied to you about that in the Tsukushi thread and you just replied with an ad hominem.
>>289794505I found Maomao to be too much of a Mary Sue and didnt watch her 2nd season as a result but she still has way more personality than boring ass Kirito.
>>289795769>>289795438They're both wish fulfillment, just with male polygamic tendencies and female hypergamous tendencies. The male wish fulfillment character has every woman in the area wanting him. The female wish fulfillment character has the single highest status man in the area wanting her.
>>289795438That's not what he's saying, Kirito is literally dating Asuna. Keitaro didn't start dating Naru until almost the end of the manga, the manga played itself like a harem manga, SAO did not
>>289794505>Good at everything>Few to zero flaws >Most attractive girls are into him>Never struggles
>>289798496Where?
I didn't like SAO because it WASN'T a harem. Kirito is a fag for not going after the girls who are still thirsting for him. I also didn't like Asuna because of that either.
>>289799636>>Never strug- QUACK
>>289794505No i hate both
>>289794505Both are crap.
>>289796850Deep fried that shit taste freak
>>289795179Kirito is unconscious for two years starving and shitting in his bed, so pretty sure he suffered more
>>289800346More like two years worth of semen down Asuna puss puss lmao
>>289799686In this thread>>289745817
>>289795179fucking eyeroll dudejust because the mary sue has a tragic backstory doesn't make them any less of a mary sue
>>289795179Those aren't flaws. If anything, overcoming those adversities only makes her appear even more awesome.
>>289794505>Implying that a guy's fantasy is some kind of scumbag>Wondering why "edgelords" are dislikedfem"anon" thread
>>289794505The world is gynocentric. What else is new?
>>289795540Female wish fulfillment protagonists have even less personality, don't lie.
>>289794505Maomao fails the court lady exam, gets punched in the face and almost let Lady Lihua die as she couldn't get past her servants to treat her.
>>289794505Isekaifags have no standards
>>289794505>MaoMao>female self-insert power fantasyIsn’t the manga seinen?
>>289794505MaoMao is good at medicine and critical thinking thats it
>>289794505retarded comparison
>>289794784Agreed.Thank you!
>>289802829thats a marketing trick to get more people to watch a foidslop
>>289794505Left is so liked that it spawned one of the most popular subgenres of the current era.It's basically only hated by hipsters and cucks who want to earn brownie points online for disliking popular things.
>>289795040real nigga
>>289794505I did feel icky about this at first but maomao is an endearing character so I liked her anywayI think if Kirito wasn't the anime equivalent of having raw chicken for dinner people wouldn't have been so harsh with himPlus, SAO happened to get the period where most people into anime suddenly started to understand the basics of writing for some reason
>>289799636who is that he's kinda hotwould take as a wife
>>289795450TRUTH NUKE
>>289794505I love Asuna NTR/Maomao rape doujins.
>>289802015>>289798496Or was it you?
>>289794505Honest question, does MaoMao have any other guys pursuing her other than the not-eunuch? Meanwhile Kirito has the whole Spurned Woman's Club who are still sort of pursuing him. Those are very, very different dynamics.
>>289794505>hated>has 6 seasons and a movie, spinoffs, gachas, 20 video games
>>289805071the mongolian basket weaving forum is a loud minority
but does MaoMao have two years worth of semen that make a glopping noise as it flows endlessly into her?
>>289804502The biggest troll in the east in Thunderbolt Fantasy. We call him Vape Duck due to a funny mis-TL.>S1, movie 1, S2, movie 2: ShamiSubs>S3 : DeepestBlue>S4: 7 Blasphemous Subs>movie 3, aka The Final Chapter: Use https://files.catbox.moe/kdgrmx.ass to replace CR subs with Japanese names
>>289801534She earned it.
>>289805147SAO hate is mainstream jewtube though? We love SAO
>>289794505Fixed with added honesty
>>289796436It's funny how incels try to nip that under the rug.If Mao was written as a male fantasy, she would be recognized nobility by chapter 3, be wealthy enough to pay her own servants, get her own harem, in her own palace, and have the power to ignore any orders she disagrees with.>>289796850Except Mao DON'T want to be in power? The most ambition you get from her is wanting to practice her trade work, learn the secret of immortality, and to better the life of others.She can't even imagine herself in power, at no point does she "play her card" for personal power.
>>289801534>appearBut if it is male overcoming adversities they ARE awesome?Those are proof she struggled in her life. Unlike most male power fantasy.If you want flaws:she is pretty bad when it comes to social,she lived her whole life as lower class peasant where she was the smartest person around, now she ended up a pawn for noble smarts in ways she doesn't understand (hence all the assassination plans she barely foil),she fails at the exam that would have given her real power,physically she may not actually be ugly ugly, but she is not considered a beauty by most standards, even ours.
femcels in denial
>>289795179She unfortunately doesnt get to taste poison anymore because she proved to be too smart at other things and is now too valuable
>>289797571>cute, charming, cleverHere's your maomao bro
>>289806391>If Mao was written as a male fantasy, she would be recognized nobility by chapter 3She could be but she she chooses to be victim instead. It's funny how foids (mtf trannies) try to pretend she isn't the only daughter of the emperors right-hand man that loves her but she hates him for irrational reasons.
>>289806277Sorry but I completely disagree with that picture.A woman just needs to give out her pussy to be set for life.A man needs to be rich, strong, handsome or influential to actually bet set for life.If Mao was born a man, he would be a soldier if lucky, a slave / eunuch if unlucky
>>289794505The problem isn't that Maomao is too perfect, but rather than the "antagonists" are fucking retarded.
>>289805147
>>289806277/thread
>>289806871>trannyCulture warrior spotted,Anyway, that's not nobility by any interpretation even if it would raise her standard of living a bit. But if you've actually read the book, you'd know that living with Lakan isn't exactly freedom. Fucking good reasons not to end up under his control.
>>289806945I'm sure all of the girls who have non committed boyfriends, got married or are living with guys who didn't put 2 cents into the relationship, or are living paycheck to paycheck are set for life, yes
>>289807912Skill issue on the part of women for having chosen poorly
>>289806568And maomao being pretty like her mom was the gangan manga's fault. In the gx manga and thr light novels she looked plainer and was supposed to resemble lakan more. Hell she could pass for twins with lahan
>>289804502How are evil are you?
>>289807923Exactly, she should have chosen a loving anon instead of an aggressive and unfaithful Chad
>>289795099le immune entirely to poison
>>289806277What a load of nonsense. A girl can pick and choose among guys as much as she wants, and if she’s locked up, she should figure out how to escape. Unless, of course, she’s fine with it, then she’ll gain status.
>normalfags hate SAOWhat else is new? This is common knowledge.
>>289799095If you actually watched or read SAO instead of autistically squabbling over pedantry, you'd know that it's absolutely a harem. Asuna is the head wife and the others are concubines. It's extra confirmed in There Is But One Ultimate Way.
>>289794505modern characters of slop are the same, but male character power fantasy is cringe, they are spineless beta cucks.
>>289807593>noooo being the daughter of the most powerful general that makes everyone shit their pants (including the pretty boy oldest son of the emperor) with his presence alone doesn't count as nobility!!!!!>also being a poorfag that everyone bosses around all the time is actually more freedom because it just is ok There are at least two men in her life that would give her an EZ life and a medicine lab or whatever is needed to peruse her autismo for basically nothing of relevance in return.
>>289808253How does male and female power fantasy differ at it's core?
>>289799636ONORE
>>289808415The truth is there is no difference, we all want unconditional love, loyalty, respect, acceptance and we want to feel like we are useful and important, even necessary, to other people.One way or another, both Kirito and Mao are power fantasies
>>289795179>>289795450>Mao Mao is in the genre of wanting to be the most poor victimized personThing is she really isn't. Her live has it's hard parts, many of them in fact. But she still has many people she loved and care for her, and that is largely reflected in her attitude and view of the world.It's like she's a character that has a place in the world and isn't just a vessel for self inserts.>>289795551Rey Skywalker is a self insert written for men that just happens to be female.
>>289796036>fake loser outcastI say she works for two reasons: 1: She isn't a outcast back home, only in the harem. 2: She actually lives in a time and place where her attitude comes across as reasonable. Modern men being edgy outcast is fucking pathetic.
>>289808415Women want to be told they are great for being who they are.Men want to be told they are great despite what they are.
>>289799708Duck still ruined Fox's life though but him getting pissed off because Fox just shrugging it off and deciding to becoming a common bandit was hilarious
>>289808577That's bullshit, are you a woman?Men want to be loved for who they are just as much as women do, the fact that women are unwilling to do that, today, is another matter
>>289808609>That's bullshit, are you a woman?Nope. >Men want to be loved for who they are just as much as women do, The point is they want to be loved despite what they are. Why do you think 99% of Isekai wish fulfillment trash has a "Weakest skill is actually the strongest" premise?
>>289808654What exactly is the difference between "want to be loved despite what they are" and "being loved for who they are"? Sure seem to me like your average pretentious word juggling that is utterly meaningless if you actually think about it for more than five seconds.
>>289808654If the weakest skill is actually the strongest, that means that the guy (mc) himself is the strongest, and that's why he has a harem.It all comes back to wish fulfillment and the desire of both men and women to be loved for who they are. The difference is: men have to be strong to be loved, women have to be pretty.>they want to be loved despite what they areAgain, I don't follow your logic
>>289808577Same meaning, different wordplay.Both genders want to be loved and accepted.
>>289808738Mostly the way the world threats them. I want to be loved for what I am means you are loved for your traits. That is the stereotypical "Not like other girls" fantasy. I want to be loved despite what I am means you want to be loved despite your traits. You aren't the conventional idea of a cool or strong person, but you still get the girl and get to kick around more conventionally strong people because of your huge brain, cleverness, or something else.
>>289808773That doesn't make sense, you are still loved for you are, for your traits, as you said " because of your huge brain, cleverness, or something else."
>>289794505>good at everything>few to zero flaws>most attractive girls are into him>never strugglesWe love Rance.
>>289808742I typically read it more as using a weak skill in a way where it becomes strong. But I'm also not going to pretend I actually read many of those stories so who knows.>>289808743I feel there is a distinct difference, frankly. At least it explains why female self insert to be better characters.
>>289808790The thing is those traits really aren't conventional strength. At worst it's stuff like Sword Art Online where it's basically "He's really good at playing video games". Which is a trait, but one that is seen as traditionally useless or even bad.
Throughout history you had deeply sensitive and emotional men aswell as strong, resilient women and vice versa.People are for the most part, products of their environment coupled with natural temperament. Society is literally dividing people based on simplified movie tropes which are there to drive the plot, not to provide a nuanced analysis of human psychology.
>>289808849Yes I agree, the common denominator for most people throughout history has always been to be loved or be part of a community. That is the natural desire of all human beings, with the exception of obvious outliers like psychos and schizosThe attraction of power fantasies like SAO and Mao's, imo, anime is precisely that: the main characters is an integral part of their community and is highly loved and respected
>>289806871You are almost there. Looking at the meta perspective she is just the I'm not like the other girls trope which is the foid power fantasy version of the undefeatable berserk lonewolf warrior
>>289808911>That is the natural desire of all human beings, with the exception of obvious outliers like psychos and schizosMost heroic myths disagree.
>>289808849>People are for the most part, products of their environment coupled with natural temperament.Sorry but twin studies show the opposite is true. People are largely genes with some environmental input.
>>289808609>the fact that women are unwilling to do that, today, is another matterWomen love men just as they've always loved. They just don't love Trump voting incels like you, for a very good reason.
>>289809035Studies have shown that over 50-30% is environment.
>>289809092Yes I'm sure they do, that's way dating, marriages and births are at an all time low in western countries.
>>289809121Because more and more men subscribe to Tate incel schizo ramblings. It's pussy repellent. Also, settling down is just asking to be cucked.
>>289809165Yes of course, it's all men's fault, as always.Kek, you must be a women, a faggot or american.
>>289806945>A woman just needs to give out her pussy to be set for life.NTA do you think crack whores have good lives?
>>289809236Again, skill issue.There are whores who are millionaires, there are those who aren't
>>289809271Yeah that's the case for anything ever There's some guy who makes 20k a month streaming fortnite on Twitch, but most streamers don't
>>289806277>>had to make herself "ugly" just to not be raped>still mogs most of the other foids in her seriesreally nigga?
>>289809236hell yesit's the analog for men to have their dick sucked by women and get rewarded with drugs for doing that
>>289809035If both twins are naturally predisposed to be introverted, get separated at birth with one being put into a loving family while the other gets put into an intolerant one then you get two different people.Both are introverts but one will be socially confident while the other is shut off.Also how are you supposed to apply the twins study to the entire human population when everyone doesn't share the exact same dna line up unlike twins?
>>289795085>sword art online isn't a harem. Kirito has a wifeI share a board with retards like this.
>>289794505Kirito is a fucking jobber who has only like 3-4 "show-off" moments against random red-shirt nobodies in the entire story, yet people always reference these 3-4 moments ad infinitum while ignoring all the times where Kirito jobbed or just barely made it through.
>>289809756Wrong, both will still be introverted. environment is 10%.
>>289808370>bowing to a hated father and mooching is power fantasyStill not nobility, Lakan can be bossed around even if he calculates exactly what he can get away with, then there's the price for him raising her standard of living, he wouldn't freely fund her medicine autism, just look at the rest of the family (sure wouldn't allow her to test poisons on herself).The double standard is damning,If it's a male it's normal to have complete freedom over YOUR wealth and power.If it's a female, it's power fantasy to want ethics & control over your life, let alone have wealth or power.
>>289795551Because she is meant to be the "modern audiences" representation that replaces the "childhood heroes" of Luke/Han/Leia by completely undoing all the efforts of the childhood heroes. If Rey was just a random new MC from an entirely new IP, people would just not care at worst, she'd maybe even have her own fans, but the fact that she ruins a long-time popular franchise means that she is a character that can only be despised by most.So it's a completely different situation. It's more like Boruto but EVEN WORSE, like instead of Naruto becoming Hokage he goes into seclusion after he failed to train Sarada who became evil, and every arc one of the OG Naruto characters get killed off one after another, including the OG trio of Naruto/Sasuke/Sakura. Well I haven't actually seen or read Boruto aside from a few bits here or there, but you should get what I mean.
>>289809092>>289809165incels hate trump and tate nowyou need to update your men-hating programming retard
>>289809814Both are introverted but both have completely different lives.One won't have a problem with talking to people which results in networking which results in new paths opening up which results in different experience which shape the person.The other can't communicate well and become a shut off neet which will lead them onto a completely different path.
>>289809814NTA I think you're putting the cart before the horse here.It's less that genes are the primary driving force behind one's personal development and more that certain gene expressions will naturally lead to certain developmental experiences.Someone who's born stronger or smarter than most people will usually turn out more confident, because in most areas they're more capable than others in their age group.If you had 2 near genetically identical people, except that 1 is black and 1 is white, and placed them in two completely identical environments, they'll become different people because they'll be treated differently due to their race.Someone who's born with a speech impediment is predisposed to being introverted because social interaction is more difficult for them.
>>289810088>they'll become different people *develop different personalitiesI worded that really badly
I think we can just say that it's two sides of the same coin and it entirely depends on which side you focus at, at the moment. Nature vs. nurture has been discussed for centuries and people could never agree. This dynamic often points to the topic being a matter of perspective.
>>289794505Mao mao struggles all the time. She also gets sexually harassed by her boss.
>>289809196>Yes of course, it's all men's fault, as always.well...>macho, incel & misogynist are rising>their core belief is that women can't do shit without them>Therefore logically it mean that everything that happen can only be men's faults
>>289810188>she also gets sexually harassed by her bossthat's what the readers want
>>289809628>mostYou are entitled to your tastes but she only represents one fetish in a vast harem.Also the point is that in a power fantasy you wouldn't worry about being raped. Let alone reincarnating with a prettier face.
>>289810204>macho, incel & misogynist are risingHave you ever wondered if maybe, just maybe, this is women's fault?Feminism has made women free to do whatever they want, and what do many do?Fuck around, fuck niggers, get tattoos, get drunk, smoke, steal from their boyfriend/husband, ask for divorce, cheat, etc.
>>289810064Only because they are making them look as retarded as they are by association, get what they voted for.
>>289810425And why would a gender being free of fucking around legitimize other gender taking away that freedom?Are you going to forbid "asking for divorce" like an uncivilized swine who also do all these things in even bigger proportion?Given the historic imbalance Feminism have been Egalitarianism for a long time, just given a loaded name by Masculinist opponents.
>>289810567I don't give a fuck really, objectively feminism is destroying the west, soon Europe will be half muslim, and then women's rights will be stripped away again.I have no skin in this game, you foids do.Remember: men have built civilization, and it's because of civilization that women can do what they want, for now
>>289810641man you're a bot straight outta 2016 /pol/
>>289810658Truth hurts, I know
>>289810447>get what they voted forwhich is what? what did incels get from trump?
>>289804891there's one guy who flirts with her because he's trying to use her dad's power, but he bails after a few chapters and when you see him again he's completely given up on that idea.
>>289794505maomao sold her little mao for 2 copper coins when living in the brothel
>>289794505Don't care about your retard argument I just want to have sex with Maomao.
>>289810567>Given the historic imbalance Feminism have been Egalitarianism for a long timeYep except when it comes to draft which btw trump made recently exclusively for non-tranny biological males by introducing testosteroe quotas
I want to go back to a time when niggers and their retarded shitstained cousins didn't have internet access. Can't even have a little girl thread without derails over American politics and orange satan.
Bitches love Kirito. I was shocked to hear how many women love him.
>>289810425>Have you ever wondered if maybe, just maybe, this is women's fault?No? It's the fault of western values. The same values that caused world war 2, world war 1, millions of massacres, imperialism, global suffering, and everything else that is actively making the world worse. Feminism, despite being born in the west and based on Christian ideas of humanism, is a rejection of traditional western values and therefore good.
>>289810784>which is what? what did incels get from trump?Embarrassment mostly, probably believed he would remove laws that protect girls from incel.
>>289810784>which is what?Getting tricked by a obvious con man.
>>289811412No worries then, those devilish western values, that brought about also the enlightenment and democracy btw, will be a memory of the past soon enough
>>289811674The enlightenment and democracy exist in opposition of western values. That is why the people who claim to love Europe the most reject them with such passion
>>289811508this is a non-sequitur thenincels didn't get what they voted for Do you understand the logical mistake you make? You still try to associate trump with incels as if he was a pre-betrayal Judas hanging out with apostles when the timeline already moved on and he's the post-betrayal Judas which just shows you have no internal critical thinking monologue and just believe in what was installed in your brain years ago which makes your opinion on politics worthless really
>>289811412>Christian ideasWhat does christianity have in common with>Fuck around, fuck niggers, get tattoos, get drunk, smoke, steal from their boyfriend/husband, ask for divorce, cheat, etcDid you read the Bible even once?
>>289812044Humanism is the natural result of Christian believes regarding kindness of your fellow men. Though obviously the actual reality of Christianity was different, the ideas behind it were still generally in line with modern values. Just with the general patriarchal attitude taken out.
>>289812098Except feminism is just a hate movement targeting men there is not an iota of kindness to be found.
I enjoyed the first bits of maomao but the more jinshi showed up the more unbearable it became. Dude is just the prototypical female fantasy type love interest; immature, retarded, generally unlikable, but he is hot so it doesn't matter.
>>289812152>Hate movement targeting menLove for your fellow humans includes women.
>>289794953Girls to to college to get more knowledgeBoys go to Jupiter to get more stupider
>>289812229Funny how you and the author seem to agree on that front.
>>289812238Love for women and hate for men is not "love for your fellow humans".
>>289810064Self-defined incels have always hated redpill conmen like the tate brothers
>>289812295For you love for women is hate for men. In reality though feminism isn't hate for men.
>>289812098>Though obviously the actual reality of Christianity was different>christianity was professed incorrectly for 2000 years>Just with the general patriarchal attitude taken out.>just throw into fire like the patriarchal passages which is like half the Bible and everything lines up
>>289804502
>>289812253Jinshi disappears for a bit
>>289812428>>christianity was professed incorrectly for 2000 yearsYeah? Not to say it was all bad. But it was a state apparatus of the roman empire for a decent chunk of that. >>just throw into fire like the patriarchal passages which is like half the Bible and everything lines upThrow out the god stuff and keep the stuff about loving your fellow men, essentially.
>>289812238if you read the OT you'd understand hate can a form of love. Else how do you explaing that the all-loving God did all those 'hateful' things. Your definition of love which means just let women do evil stuff to themselves and society is certainly not a christian teaching.
>>289812505Where's the love in divorce? In cheating? In toying with men's feeling? In accusing them of crimes they have never commited? In lying and betraying their son? In killing their children while they are still in they belly? Feminism is pure evil
>>289812356You don't know the first thing about reality, you live in a fantasy land.
>>289809756>Also how are you supposed to apply the twins study to the entire human population when everyone doesn't share the exact same dna line up unlike twins?They way it was figured out that it's basically all genes is doing a battery of psychological tests and comparing how similar people are to each other. Like you compare parents and their children, brothers and sisters, people of the same ethnicity growing up in different cultures, people of the same ethnicity growing up in the same culture, etc, you get the point. Once you have that you can do statistics and get "surprising" results. Like twins growing up in completely different cultures being more similar to each other than siblings born to the same mother and father growing up in the same household. Same applies in reverse. A rat born in a stable turned out to be more similar to other rats then the horses that raised it.
>>289812505>Throw out the god stuffNo, I think you need to throw way more than that including NT Paul's letters in which he orders foids to be subservient and modest (exact opposite of the feminist ideal).
>>289809165They turned to Tate because they couldn't get pussy, not the other way around
>>289812505>Yeah? Not to say it was all bad. But it was a state apparatus of the roman empire for a decent chunk of that.you didn't even read the bible but you have a better theological insight than all those christian phiolosphers and apostles from the beginning of christianity untill modern times, got it
>>289812009Are you trying to convince yourself? A mistake made in your past remain a mistake.He called to their base instincts, Incels flocked to him, he underdelivered and it took them a long time to realize the Emperor has no clothes.You are the one who needed me to explain you something that frankly should be evident by now.Now different from why incels and other retards are desperate to rewrite the narrative around Mao mao. She gets the protag treatment but it's definitely not a power fantasy nor a Mary sue.
Can anyone post the picture with the Maomao and frog comparison in which the frog is thought of as a cylinder?
>>289803869>marketing trick to get more people to watch a foidslopSo same way Usagi Drop is labeled “Josei” when it’s really just a marketing tactic to get people more comfortable with incel pedoslop?
>>289809849>The double standard is damning,That's not a double standard, it's reality lmao. Men and women are different despite the libtard nonsense you've been brainwashed with. Jewlleywood girlboss is myth. Women don't want to be men. They want men with capital M to be at their beck and call. It's why the most powerful general in the empire is pathetically desperate for her to just call him daddy while she can just ignore him. It's why the most beautiful man ever (and next in line for the throne) only has eyes for her while she can just treat like some pathetic simp.
>>289812537>Where's the love in divorce?Where's the love in staying with a man that hates you and wants to harm you.>In toying with men's feeling?What feelings? Don't blame women for your own lust.>in accusing them of crimes they have never commitedWhat are you doing right now?>In lying and betraying their son?Only relevant if you are related to Judas.>In killing their children while they are still in they belly?Sometimes, to love something, you need to let it go. >>289812547Says the sexist.
>>289812785>you didn't even read the bible but you have a better theological insight than all those christian phiolosphers and apostles from the beginning of christianity untill modern times,It's called a lack of political bias. >>289812680And that is the patriarcial nonsense that needed to be cut out.
>>289812800>he underdeliveredWe just established this is false. He not only did not deliver anything to incels but also delivered to their opponents but your programming compels you to not admit to that fact or else your initial position that still treats trump as an enemy rather than a traitor falls apart. You just cant admit that the left was largely tricked all the same and you're just as retarded as incels
>>289813079'traitor to incels'
>>289813079>You just cant admit that the left was largely tricked all the same>You were tricked! >By not voting for him and pointing out he was bad.>Which he was.???
>>289812931Female demographic in a male magazine boosts female readership for the magazine as a whole and boosts male readership for the manga as they get baited. It's free money. It doesn't work the other way around because men aren't going to read a josei magazine. Putting a male demographic work in a female magazine is burning money for no reason.
>>289813177>It doesn't work the other way around because men aren't going to read a josei magazine. Putting a male demographic work in a female magazine is burning money for no reason.So what was the point of Usagi Drop then?
>>289813072>It's called a lack of political biasno, it's called uninformed opinion and regurgitating a false image of christianity that you probably saw/read in college/tv
>>289813108>By not voting for him and pointing out he was bad.But he wasn't. According to you he was supposed to be the next hitler but all he did was embarrass incels, right? That's objectively a net positive to the opposition of incels
>>289811747So westen values == chistcuckery? Literally no one believes the west would be the pinnacle of what humankind produced without individualism (legacy of ancient greeks) and the enlightenment.
>>289813755The enlightenment was built on Christian values. The philosophers of the time were trying to rationalize themselves into the values they already had from religion.
>>289812931>incel pedoslopI dont know but thanks for the recommendation.
>>289813799Rejection of authority when it comes to knowledge and a tradition of criticisms, the two absolutely necessary factors if you ever want computers and all the rest of technology we currently have, are not even remotely near any of the core Christian values. There's a reason it took like a millennium and a half of Europe being Christian to kick off the current very unique era of human history.
Yeah all those techonologies were so great for society and not tools of enslavement that only benefit the satanic elites.I'm especially fond of dating aps that made 80% of bottom males permanent incels and computers that pacify those incels with anime and porn and take away all motivation and ambition from them.
WOMAN BAD MAN GOODMAN BAD WOMAN GOOD?
>>289794505Can you tell me why he is hated? At least these two gets more respect than him. Writers hate him , Pokemon fans hates him because he is not a Mary Sue like Red or Kirito.Hack, Krito's story should have ended long time ago! He got out of the game, score a 10/10 girlfriend/wife , graduate from highschool and moving together with Asuna. If there is still things for Kirito to do than Ash has way more things left to do yet I never heard anybody wanting Kirito to step away for a new MC and the only guy that could replaced him died and turned into Kirito's sword
>>289813079No, that's just you desperately trying to dissociate them since it became embarrassing for "the right" in US biparty gerrymandered electoral circus.I don't know why I bother talking to you since you try to dehumanize any contradicting arguments as "programming", putting up words in my mouth (Trump is neither traitor or enemy, just an incompetent self-aggrandizing macho and the blame lies on whoever voted for him).Best case you are knowingly disingenuous, worst case you might be the one "programmed" into following this anti-left narrative.
>>289814789>self-aggrandizing machoso the opposite to incels>incompetentname some genuine ATTEMPTS at giving incels what they voted for that failed bc of trump's incompetency
>>289813027You'd not say it's a power fantasy if a male had no right outside what the boss who treat him like a toy give him, or has to ask mommy.Double standard is obvious.>daddy loving her daughter after (almost) losing the only woman he could ever loveNo surprise there>daddy is the most powerful generalStill a problem if not a danger to be around since he's involved in who know what manipulation, wouldn't be surprised he had plans to kill Jinshi.>most beautiful man ever (and next in line for the throne)Doesn't change that being the servant of a maniac and having no right beside his whim is not a power fantasy.She barely even started to have respect for him.>only has eyes for her>she can just treat like some pathetic simp.As if you read the story.He juggles with manipulatives beauty. all. day. long. She's started as someone useful to track of, moved to being his toy, slowly moving to a phase where he can trust Mao, which make her indeed precious for a guy in his position.At best you can call this a "very gradual no-right pauper to some-right princess" with more historical accuracy over women's right.
>>289804483You misunderstand. People started learning about writing and film to better understand why they felt like this needs to burn on a pyre.
>>289804891Kirito is only dating Asuna so why are you still seething over the harem?
>>289806871Does she really hate the guy when she's fine with anally pleasuring him?
>>289814302>medieval peasant>life expectancy: 40, if lucky>no actual holidays, they do more than farming.>taxes: doesn't actually own anything, his very life belong to the king.>Has to ask permission to the king to leave>drink ales to forget his misery and because it's the only way to get purify water, no running water>has tons of kids because most will die before reaching 20.
>>289814939Incels can absolutely be self-aggrandizing macho, they wouldn't be raging against women if they understood why women look at them like garbage.Also you know just as well as we do the Donald attacked tons of women right laws, which is the sort of thing incels naively believe will force women to suck up to male (them) out of despair. Incels are that pathetic to begin with yes.
>>289818755>if they understood why women look at them like garbage.Because they're ugly?
>>289812306This. Anyone seriously into that sphere doesn't buy into that "hustler" nonsense.
>>289819348You should've let the thread die
>>289819504Normies don't know this but the entire community was basically founded by anti-PUAs and anti-redpillers.
>never strugglesThat's literally not true, for either of them.>german filename-_->>289795122>Maomao is a cute girl I'd like to bone and Kirito is not.Why? There's tons of good hentai doujins about boning Kirito. He already has a very feminine frame and face.
>>289802829Rumiko Takahashi’s works are also shonen/seinen and they have the biggest and most insufferable female power fantasy self-inserts known to ever grace the medium, Mao looks downright normal when you compare her to the likes of Shinobu, Akane, or Kagome.
>>289819917It's almost hilarious how bastardized the ideologies born out of OG incel communities have been by the mainstream. The blackpill was really just a way to explain why the game was rigged from the start and the hopes of beating it was virtually zero. Best you could do was to cut your loses and find some cope.
>>289819917>PUAs
>>289818755>women right lawsSimple question. Say a law mandates that X% of jobs have to go to women and doesn't mandate any % of jobs that have be occupied by men so women getting all jobs would be legal but men getting all jobs would be illegal. What would be a more accurate name for such a law, women rights law or men discrimination law?
>>289821017>The blackpill was really just a way to explain why the game was rigged from the start and the hopes of beating it was virtually zero.Normies don't like being told that, they want to feel like they're in control of their own destiny which is why they bastardized the blackpill and turned it into looksmaxxing faggotry (basically redpill 2.0)
>>289808605But that's the point anon. For Duck, winning ONLY means making his target's feel agony and regret over their own egotistical drives and pasts. He couldn't give a shit that he ruined Fox's life if Fox is able to just keep moving forward and start again without a car.
cry about it
>>289794505dont you dare compare maomao to some faggot like kirito
>>289812492you are an autist because it's still a valid sentenceI am stating a rule for all mary sues, not maomao specifically
>>289822001imagine a wecomic where they're roommates playing vidyasweet guts and hella maomao
>>289799988based
