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Piyon is looking for Woble right now, say something nice to her.
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Eat the baby.
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Yu yu hakusho sex with kurama
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The three great filters of the succession war !
>the troupe flashback (2.5 chapters)
>The card game (3.5 chapters)
>Kurapika baby swap yap (3 chapters).

Which filtered the most readers? OSU
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>>289802253
sex with zushi
osu!
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>>289802253
There real filter will be readers not realizing that the princes were never meant to be beloved characters and that Togashi wrote this arc without taking hiatuses into account. The princes will die uneventfully because they only ever were a vehicle to get Kurapika closer the Tse, Chrollo, and the eyes. People get attached to the princes because they spent 8+ years analyzing the chapters, but for Togashi they're just a couple notes on a page. Cammy will die, she has no master plan. Halk will die, he has no master plan. Luzurus, Tyson, and the rest will be killed off practically offscreen. The arc will rush towards a final confrontation and readers will go "wait, that's it??" because that's what Togashi has historically done
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>>289802313
Wing...
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>AIIIEEEEE N-NOT THE SPINNING COINS! I WILL LITERALLY DIE IF I FIGHT THIS GUY HEAD ON, I'D BETTER GO HIDE IN THE WOODS!
Holy KWAB
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CHROLLO DONT LOOK
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>>289802253
The card game completely fucking filtered me I honestly don't think I've ever been more bored reading this manga after a decade of reading
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Is this the worst placement on the nen chart?
>still all the same weaknesses as regular conjurers and conjurer-specialists
>less or no chance of getting the potential specialization buff that pure conjurers might get
>there's little point in transmuting aura to have properties of a specific material if it would still be more efficient to just conjure that material
>probably still doesn't have enough transmutation affinity to make a very strong transmutation hatsu like bungee gum
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>>289802211
Minus Ging and Pariston she's the only one who didn't mutilate herself to look like her zodiac animal and instead just wore a Spirit Halloween "sexy bunny" costume so she's definitely one of the smarter ones just based off that
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>>289802253
>3 fumbles in a single arc
togashi's age is really catching up with him...
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Pariston saying that he destroys people that he loves followed by him saying that he hates Ging and wonders what he would do to people that he hates is the gayest part of HxH so far even if you count that one anime skit
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>>289802508
>Minus Ging and Pariston
We don't know about how pre-zodiac Pariston looked like yet
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>>289802543
The gayest part is Chrollo spreading his anus for the annual troupe makes only orgy
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>>289802437
Convince me right the fuck now on how Chrollo could beat Gotoh
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>>289802570
>saving gay porn to own the spiderchuds
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>>289802623
it's hot
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>>289802630
Clownfaggots...
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>>289802640
no I'm a chrollobro
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>>289802437
>Pissbaby tries to read hxh
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>>289802630
This guy isn’t me.

>>289802623

I just find it funny how gay Chrollo is. Little edge lord. Spreading his anus for the troupe. He lets Machi wear a plastic penis to shove up his ass
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>>289802588
Ben's knife, boom done!
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>>289802543
Pariston's a massive fruit
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>>289802253
The bombshell and shitposting when they revealed the rape festivals was kino
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>>289802758
the rape festivals make no sense. its similar writing to the troupe flashback, where the actual characterization is so at odds with what we're told.
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If i were Cammygoddess i would have taken advantage of martial law to send my curse soldiers disguised as Benjamin fags in order to curse every other prince to death right to their faces.
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>>289802477
You can follow the example of Kite and Tsuboni and specialize in shapeshifting conjurations.
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Total clowntranny melty
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>>289802211
I'll give her a creampie as a reward
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>>289802816
Clownbros...
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If I was a transmuter I would transmute my aura into weed. No offensive capabilities whatsoever I just want to get high
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>>289802858
DUDE
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>>289802253
>>Kurapika baby swap yap (3 chapters).
I loved watching this break so many anon. It was seriously delightful.
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>>289802858
This but ice cream
I fucking love ice cream
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>>289802585

English Translation
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>>289802918
Nice
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Was Chrollo vs Hisoka the last major Hype moment in the series? The black whale arc and everything has been good. But I got into the series around the start of the fight. The threads when it was going down was something else. I can't remember anything coming close. I feel 'Hisoka' appearing got a big pop.
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>>289802858
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>>289802949
Martial law is supposed to be the next hype moment since then, but we’ll see if it lives up to the hype.
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Is legend of the galactic heroes and kingdom similar to this arc? I want to scratch my successionwar itch when the hiatus comes.
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>>289803118
Lol this arc is nothing like LOGH
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>>289803520
sex
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>>289802477
Yes, until Togashi redeems the Transmuter category.
In terms of pure transmutation, Hisoka, Machi, and Killua seem to be the peak. Unfortunately, I strongly doubt we'll ever see any new pure Transmutations abilities that can compete.
For now, our hopes for the Transmutation redemption lie with GSB-5, Hanzo, and the Heil-ly.
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>>289803576
with Bisky
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>>289803520
>>289803576
>>289803663
Sex with bicsuit is too dangerous. She would get too excited, turn into a gorilla, and destroy you.
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>>289803681
And what's the bad news?
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>>289802477
No? You can do cool shit like Kite or Hanzo
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>>289802858
With the restriction that I must smoke weed every day
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>>289802253
Gon leaving the MC position to Kuyapika
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>>289803520
>>289803576
>>289803663
Uoh 60 yo lolibaba Bisky!
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>>289802253
>>Kurapika baby swap yap (3 chapters).
This one. Oh my god it made me hate Kurapika. I actually loved the other two things you listed, but this was utter garbage.
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>>289802336
this guys knows what's up

only psycho jesus is important, the rest of the princes are non-nen jobbers and their spirit pokemon wont save em
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>>289804623
O my King Crimson
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STAB STAB STAB RIGHT IN CHROLLOS THROAT
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>>289804679
>ACK
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She is Pariston and used the gender swapping card in greed island.
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>>289802253
The card game definitely
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>>289804796
So how come the kurta monkeys raped and executed her?
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>>289805132
She looks very rapeable and executeable
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>>289805132
She came back then saw too much of the village and they couldn't let her leave alive. They crashed her head with a tree trunk.
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>>289803590
>>289803731
>>289802477
It's weird that we haven't seen what should have been the most archetypical Transmuter ability possible: green lantern powers. Just a guy who can create all sorts of solid objects made of pure force would be really fucking strong.
Transmutation is also the ability that lets you be the Flash, turn invisible, make yourself into solid steel, fly by making yourself weightless, etc...
It's borderline totally busted to an insane degree especially layered with an 80% enhancement aptitude.
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>>289805291
Raw shaped aura just isn't that strong. The most powerful transmuted aura we've seen was Zeno's dragon lance and even that was also emitted too with manipulation by hand gestures.

For a transmuter to make their aura shapes do anything they need basically all categories.
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>>289803681
Rude
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>>289805412
You could transmute your aura to be as solid as steel. Hell you can literally conjure actual physical steel and drop anvils on people's heads if you really wanted to!
A transmuter could make themselves into the fucking Thing if they were good enough at it, it's absolutely possible!
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>>289805132
I genuinely doubt they did anything to her
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biscuit sabotaged herself

both of her forms are only attractive to creeps
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>>289805907
Bisky getting her loli form went like this.
>biscuit praying: "I want to be irresistible to men."
>nen God: "Say no more."
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>>289805991
and yet she's still single and pushing 57
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>>289802253
For me is the flashback, it ruined one of the greatest villain groups ever, now they are just part of the generic pile.
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Bisky..
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>>289802336
I'm gonna take a screenshot of this and throw it in your face when Tserr dies and there are still princes left, or the ritual fails, or is interrupted/sabotaged and the arc takes a completely unpredictable direction.
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Bisky isn't single anymore
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>>289802250
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>>289806606
Lucky man>>289805412
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The way Chrollo is drawn so femininely during the clown fight is really funny
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>>289804679
>KWAB KWAB KWAB
ftfy
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>>289802477
You get better magical properties from whatever you conjure, or you can transmute using a conjured medium.
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>>289802253
For me, honestly I'd say the princes chapters when nothing happens.
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>>289809188
He was always a pretty boi
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>>289806082
>Izunavi clocking Kurapika's bullshit immediately and staring at him
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>>289802253
All 3 are necessary kino
>Draws parallels between Chrollo and Kurapika
>Literal yurischolar moment that sets up Morena's personal arc and rape festival exposition
>Gives Kurapika a reason to finally leave his room and possibly reintroduces Gon and Killua
Reading on a week-to-week basis is rough for people but processing the entire thing makes it good, all of this will equate to 3 episodes in the SC anime
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Do you think Togashi watched the HxH movies?
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>>289809310
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>>289805291
The tricks that Ging does with aura on his hands is pure transmutation no?
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>>289805291
>Just a guy who can create all sorts of solid objects made of pure force would be really fucking strong.
Rate my ultimate transmuter hatsu
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>>289809252
sometimes he's drawn like he's on meth
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>>289809252
he looked like ging's lost son at times in yorknew city arc
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If I was a Transmuter I'd shape my aura into arms so I could punch more.
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God we really should just have two HxH threads always going. All the retards post in this one and better discussion can be had in the other one.
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>>289809389
Vectors are cool 2bh
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>>289809426
seriously what was up with this art style
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>>289809481
Yes, yes they are.
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>>289805132
rape is not an excuse, it's a reason
and on that night everything seemed to them so reasonable
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>>289802465
Unirnonically you should kill yourself
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>>289809310
>>289809323
lol I just wonder what Togashi was thinking at that moment during the movies.
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>>289809551
>So what do you call these red monkeys Kurtaboos?
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do you think togashi is writing for his fans or for sakurakaza and the idol fan of his? togashi wouldn't do that for us would he?
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>>289809340
NTA but moving the shapes around at varying speeds and in opposing directions might also involve some manipulation
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>>289809610
i'm pretty sure he's writing for himself at this point
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>>289809610
didn't he say his idol oshi being a fan of hxh is what motivated him? kek
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In the HxH community, they are known as "the big 4".
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So what exactly was his plan? He had no idea what nen was here, and Benjamin's the one with the Royal Guard, was this guy just retarded?
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Gold Experience Requiem is basically a conjurer turning into specialist
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>>289809681
He was just talking shit to his big bro
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>>289809681
It's been a minute isn't he also a supporter for one of the mafia? I guess he assumed they would be enough? Could also be his narcissistic personality at work
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>>289805412
>Raw shaped aura just isn't that strong
Raw aura is as strong as the user's output. Gon's scissors for example would be plenty strong since it uses a fraction of that 2000 aura he generates during his chant.

Zeno can use dragon lance without emitting it and I don't think the hand signs indicate manipulation since "turning" aura was really just transmuting it to bend, the hand sign is probably just a habit or mental guide. Maybe it has manipulation for the emitted version to at least make it disappear when it reaches a destination.
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>>289802211
Piyon butt
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>>289806275
biscuit is white
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>>289809670
To think it took nothing short of a miracle to defeat the weakest among them...
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>>289809555
borkfag..
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>>289809739
yeah, a vacuum cleaner
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>>289802211
Wouldn't you assume that your mortal enemy in zetsu, standing in front of you, is bait? Zetsu is bad. Real bad. It's like the 'cost' of a power, they should be hiding, they're a human right now.
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>>289809695
I think I might be somewhere between Transmuter and Conjurer. Ugh.
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>>289809779
I didn't realize borkeks were that militant
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Ha-ha, i’ve seen princess Camilla naked!
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>>289809781
It scares me to utter this, but they're weakest to strongest ordered from right to left, as Togashi-sensei implores us to read...Either Nobugod was feeling benevolent that day, or this girl is perhaps an even greater force to handle...
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>>289809695
I AM SPECIALIST BTW
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>>289809790
if they're a nen newbie like tser, you'd probably just assume they're being retarded.
after all, theta's whole idea was to teach him zetsu so that she can dispose of him easily.
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>>289809812
Faggot
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>>289802253
For me and several others, the entire Succession Contest is a filter because there has been no reason to get attached or invested with any of these 100+ new characters except Tserri because he is built up as Kurapika's next antagonist/goal.

The tragedy is that despite the succession contest being the main plot currently, the legacy readers can't drop the manga because the B Plot - Hisoka vs Phantom Troupe is one of the most interesting and arguably the most important setup & payoff for this series. The seeds for this conflict was setup in York new 26 years ago, especially the prophecies for some of the troupe members.
Its so damn frustrating for several fans like me
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I'm so fucking scared
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>>289809812
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I still think the most shameful thing Togashi ever did was basically plagiarize Kuramas back story from Shinichi's in Kiseijū.
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>>289809844
You should be
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*mmmwah*
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morena is a nothing burger character
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>>289809945
Morena is saving this arc from being a snooze fest
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>please care about the Wobblino
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>>289809945
cammy*
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>>289809817
She should do the jojo thing and leak her saliva onto someone, me preferably
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Benjamin is probably in my top 5 now. He's just cool and fun to draw.
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>>289810021
who are the other 4
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>>289810021
Post your Benjamin drawings
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>>289809945
this is sounding like seethe from the peasant class that unironically thought she'd instantly die
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>>289810004
this is sounding like seethe from the peasant class that unironically thought she wouldn't be profound
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>>289802253
Pikayap
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>>289809781
Nobubros...
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I can't remember where it said. Do the contagion players get abilities with zero say in them or do they get a blank they are allowed customize?
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>>289805291
We're also somehow missing an Accelerrator Emitterchad.
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>>289810164
They can freely choose what power they want to have. Morena however is coaching them and some powers in the group rely on her presence to function. At least two so far with Yokotani and whoever is reinforcing the hideout.
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Would Gojo's Infinity, just his impregnable barrier, be Conjuration, Emission, or Manipulation?
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>>289810164
Contagion takes care of the fine-tuning while a Player's instincts, goals, and affinities guide the Ability's form.
Luini went full vibes based and Contagion took care of all the details.
For more agency over Ability specifics a Player may deliberately focus their mind on specific goals or methods. They might seek advice from Morena or Morena herself may request certain parameters. Both to these can contribute to the emergence of a more deliberate ability.
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>>289810213
I think Emission would make the most sense, it's all about teleportation and space manipulation shit. Plus it fits the best with his other abilities.
But then again Conjuration does let you literally create space out of thin air so it's definitely possible to imagine it being that.
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>>289810035
Chrollo, Netero, Feitan, Meruem but I'm not a fujo I swear.
>>289810045
I only have this one rn which I made when people were joking about him being a cuck.
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>>289809720
>Zeno can use dragon lance without emitting it
He uses Emission to give the dragon substance and weight; otherwise, it would hit like a wet noodle.

The other point you made is strange. We explicitly see Zeno guiding the dragon’s movement with hand signs. There is really no reasonable way to interpret that as anything other than Manipulation.
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>OOOH This is it! This, THIS!
>This makes my blood boil with excitement!
*Claws random person to death*
hehehe
>Meow-tial Nya, Meow-tial Nya!
>5 minutes left until I declare it!
>UUUUUUH I can't wait to declare it!!
>I'm going to take out anyone that gets in king-sama's way NYA!
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Pitou sex
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I just impregnated Bisky
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>>289810249
He does like to watch Cammy
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>>289810286
Rihan...
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>>289810213
It would be a highly advanced form of emission and conjured. He would make an emitted barrier around himself that teleports anything that hits it to a nearly infinite plane which also has an exit that topology wraps around Gojo
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>>289810256
I think you're confusing yourself anon. Emission is removing nene from your person and it existing independently. You can just stretch your aura out beyond of it's still connected without Emission.
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>>289809781
>rejecting danchou
I always enjoy the delusional monologues chrollo has about the troupe continuing without him
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>>289810213
One of my favourite things about the series is discussing how abilities from other mangas would work under the nen system
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>>289810256
>I don't have the defenses to guard against his strike
Uh... Cuckllo bros?
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>>289810256
>He uses Emission to give the dragon substance and weight; otherwise, it would hit like a wet noodle.
If the aura isn't separated, he can't be using emissions. Heck, even En isn't an emissions ability since the aura is still connected to the user. It's just a really big Ten field

>We explicitly see Zeno guiding the dragon’s movement with hand signs
Hisoka uses hand signs as well when using bungee gum. And plenty of other nen users do weird things when they really don't need too like Morel pulling from a pipe that has nothing in it. I think Ging's pip play demonstrates my point very well. He's moving his aura in different directions and changing their shape simultaneously but we should be able to recognize that this is just transmutation on an advanced level. Did you think that armless jobber in Heaven's arena was manipulating his aura arm? Manipulation is one thing but shape changing aura is the realm of transmutation.
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>>289810286
If you had an ability that impregnated women from a distance what would you need to accomplish it?
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>>289810286
Cookie-chan's special lotion lets you get 8 hours of sleep in 30 minutes, a 16x speedup, meaning at maximum utilization, projecting the physical recovery boost onto accelerated gestation time, she could give birth in as little as 16 days 21 hours, meaning it's entire;y possible for her to birth two entire regulation soccer teams(one boys, one girls) in a single year.
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>they're aguing about anime magic again
chapter has been out for 3 days
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>>289810341
I think it's fun if you start from zero as opposed to translating powers from other series. Or better yet trying to place powerless characters in the Nen system.
Translating Naruto's clones into a Conjuration ability is far less interesting than asking "What is his Category, and what kind of ability would he create to fit his goals and personality?"
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>>289810407
Nen autism arguments are the highest IQ discourse you will find on 4chan
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>>289810407
grvke, nothing really matters when breath of shartangel exists
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>>289810350
based Nen Scholar
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>>289810474
Cammy has one of those cards btw, TSK is toast
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>>289810367
>Hatsu: Tributary Libation
User must focus on a picture (can be physical, digital) of the target's exposed genitals taken within a 24 hour window. They must remain focused on it as they masturbate for a thirty minute period, building up Aura, and ejaculate, at which point a portal will transport their entire load directly into the target's womb, to slowly leak outward (targets tend to confuse it with their own discharge).
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>>289810496
Fujosisters what the fuck is this? I thought Madhouse was on our side?
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>>289810407
All theories, plots and predictions originate from the nen system, whether you like it or not.
Anime magic rules this manga.
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>>289810519
These seem like tough restrictions
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>>289802253
Bork chapters were the pinnacle of the Succession War.
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>>289810570
feet :)
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What do you think will be prince Chadrriednich endgame?
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>>289810321
>>289810350
Giving aura solid substance and weight has been shown time and time again to be emission. You are taking emission too literally. Unless you think Zeno is transmuting his auras substance too. I guess he could be giving his aura the properties of metal or something. But its much simpler for an emitter to just dump bunch of aura into something like dragon head until it has weight. Like we see him doing. And if it help you. He does make Dragon head by first emitting and orb.


>Hisoka uses hand signs as well when using bungee gum. And plenty of other nen users do weird things when they really don't need too like Morel pulling from a pipe that has nothing in it. I think Ging's pip play demonstrates my point very well. He's moving his aura in different directions and changing their shape simultaneously but we should be able to recognize that this is just transmutation on an advanced level. Did you think that armless jobber in Heaven's arena was manipulating his aura arm? Manipulation is one thing but shape changing aura is the realm of transmutation.

I.... uh... don't know where you are going with this Hisoka stuff. Here is a picture of him manipulating Dragon Head with a finger gesture.
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Baki is an Enhancer who inherits his father's Demon-back Hatsu, but also experiments with his own animal based Transmutation and Emission Hatsus to create imaginary beasts he can either use in combat directly or invoke to use their abilities.
The condition is that he has to fight each nen-beast in hand to hand combat and win before he can use them in battle against another fighter.
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>>289810571
Not really, if anything it's too lax. It should be a picture that the user has personally taken otherwise you could just cum inside any random camwhore with the only requirement being you have to jack off for half an hour.
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>>289810618
There's no evidence that Emission is doing that. In fact it's name implies otherwise.
He could be using Transmutation or just putting so much aura into the attack it becomes stronger.
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So Benjamin is both infected and cursed now. I wonder how many more slow-acting attacks he’ll be hit with before he dies.
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>>289810618
Aura is always solid, Conjuration, the literal exact opposite category, makes literal physical objects! There are also several Transmuters whose aura is solid or semi-solid, including one who literally just transmutes his aura into giant hands to grab people with.
Emission is only about detaching aura from the body or acting at a distance with no direct connection.
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>>289810666
If you can't impregnate thots over the internet with an Emission Hatsu then you're a shit nen user. Knov can teleport his entire body across continents, zapping your semen away isn't too difficult by comparison.

Besides, everyone knows the real Emitterchad ability is to teleport your shit out of your colon to a location of your choosing.
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>>289810676
<_< just read the fight anon, Zeno blasts Chrollo with aura (that is still connected to him mind you) and it smashes Chrollo like a brick wall. Unless you think he is transmuting his aura into a solid here. Which he isn't, this is totally an emitted blast
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>>289810754
She really is an alluring woman. You could easily find yourself desiring the things she wants to accomplish.
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>>289810771
Knov is the perfect example why you're wrong, he has to set up a teleport spot first. That's why it works and why "you need to take a picture yourself" is a sensible redtriction. An alternative could be that any of her pictures will do, but you first had to pat her pussy at some point.
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>>289810852
Could Gojo block Halkenburg's arrow?
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>>289809718
Tse cut connections off with Heil-Ly not long after entering the Black Whale iirc, not sure why.
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>>289810179
His power is closer to Manipulation. But I doubt even someone like Meruem at his strongest can replicate it faithfully. Too strong.
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>>289810924
Never thought of that... but following the Nen rules, I think Halkenburg's arrow would win.
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>>289810286
Marayam...
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>>289810440
Naruto is a enhancer, his only natural talent was enhancing his speed. He was only able to brute force conjuration through sheer aura quantity, which is nearly limitless.

He also had an amazing aptitude for visualization, which is why he surpassed nen by the end into some sort of divine being
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>>289802437
Spiders would have a hard time against Gotoh.
Many of them would straight up die.
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>>289810782
All Nen is solid anon, a transmuter can slap you with his aura and it'll hurt just as much as an enhancer hitting you with his fist.
Think about conjurers for a second here(the opposite category from emission)
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>>289810520
This is better
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>>289810797
Borksen...
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>>289809914
>Morena Mordegard Glesgorv
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>>289809815
Theta is doing it because she knows what zetsu is, ben is walking in thinking he's won, when his target is playing 'come at me bro' games. Both being noobs would/should put them on edge. Tse is lucky being taught wrong was a powerup, which to me is plot contrivance/luckmaxxxxing.
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>>289810614
>AAAAAAAAAAAACKKKKKKKK MY EYES MY EYES THEY FUCKING HURTS SO MUCH I CAN'T SEE FUCKING KURAPIKA I WILL KILL YOU!!!!!
>I NEED TO USE ZETSU TO ESCAPE
>WAIT THETA WHAT ARE YOU DOING NO THETA NO!!!! I NEED TO OPEN MY EYES!
>FUCK I CAAAAN'T!!!!
>NO THETA DON'T DO IT YOU FUCKING BIT-AAACCCKKKKKKKKKKK
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>>289802858
Why not just conjure weed? 80% is good enough.
Heck, if it's not combat related, you could even just emit your weed. 60% still aplenty.
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>>289807931
This is actually an ok translation. The core of the literal japanese translation is also that he coudln't understand how Chrollo changed trajectory.

>Hisoka:"He was definitely coming to destroy my left flank! and from that position... he can still adjust his attack???"
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>>289810407
I recall how all these years ago when I started reading, they explained the system in the manga and then went "by the way there's this specialist category and they just kinda do whatever lmao" which was the moment I resolved not to spend a single second understanding nen as it's literally just bullshit.
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>>289809279
Hanzo wondering "what the fuck is this hag getting all giddy about" is funny to me too.
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>>289811409
Ben doesn't really seem like a newbie. He has a pretty good grasp on nen abilities. Which is probably why doesn't think Tser could make any significant progress within 2 weeks.
It probably took Benjamin and his men a decade or more to reach the point he is at now.
Tser just happens to be 1 out of a billion genius but Ben can't possibly take that into account in their encounter.
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>>289811473
I never understood this meme
They still have to obey all the other rules of nen, they just don't fit in the other categories
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If we think about that, Halk is even more ridiculous than Tserri, but at least he has excuse of having STRONG NEN due to his beast.
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>>289811409
>being taught wrong was a powerup
I just realised what had happened
Theta wanted to stall him by making him interested in training zetsu and it backfired so bad
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>>289811473
>which was the moment I resolved not to spend a single second understanding nen as it's literally just bullshit
No wonder why are there so many retards
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>>289811209
I genuinely don't think this is true about transmuted aura. Or we would see green lantern like power. Regaurdless of how you think the Nen user achives it, they HAVE to dump a lot of aura into their transmuted shapes for them to actually smash someone and possibly they woukd have to give some sort of physical property to their aura. I do agree, Aura does become like a solid with enough of it in a dense enough form. I don't think Biscuit's finger numbers have any substance to them what so ever.

Mach is a good example why, her transmuted aura has tensile strength, rigidity, and hardness. If all a transmuter needed was to dump aura into their shapes to make them strong, then Machi's ability is pointless. She is actually changing the properties of his transmuted aura so it can physically interact with things.

(also, Zeno's ability does involve emission no matter how you slice it)
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>>289811733
If Hisoka cut off his penis
would she sew it up?
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>>289811655
I mean, no one should be surprised by the princes talent when the csuse of that is the post-mortem nen ritual stuff
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>>289811409
Theta stressing Zetsu as the peak of nen knowledge is that lead to the spark in Tse's perspective. It's poetic really
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>>289802253
what was wrong with the troupe ones?
The explanation of the game was ass but the game itself was great.
The swap was overdone, should've spent one of those chapters on Ben and Furykov

>>289802336
I agree, when you re-read the chapters flow easily, all the infographics, as good as they are, they are over-analyzation that ultimately will serve no purpose to the main story

>>289811656
>I just realised what had happened
she straight up says it, no wonder people get filtered, they can't even fucking read
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>>289811733
Can she treat my hemorroids?
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>>289811792
Yea since she's a nice girl at heart
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>Meruem jobbed to this
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>>289811792
If she can reconnect all the nerves in an arm that easily a dick shouldn't be too hard.
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>>289802211
Is Hisoka a Hellbell victim?
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>>289811792
Dude Hisoka no longer has penis
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>>289811777
Checked
What do you mean Zeno's dragon is not an emission? Isn't it literally just his aura detached from his body in the form of a dragon? Seems quite similar to Razor's balls if you ask me.
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>>289811928
He is too in control of himself. I bet Morena is the perfect example of a hellbell victim. Her quest to destroy Kakin is without restraint and only shows mercy to potential victim she infects.
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>>289811866
Pitou could
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>>289811989
pitou couldn't even fix kaito. he's a shitter
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>>289811923
I was asking if she's willing to hold my penis and carefully observe it while stitching it up
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>>289812026
get in line faggot, she will gaze upon my hemorroids first
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>>289812020
Pitou fixed Kite
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>>289811832
I think people only complain because we get so few chapters. Like this is wano, on steroids (slower release, EXTREMELY BLOATED CAST). We've got superfluous but "necessary" characters who have to do their thing for things to make sense in a world where location X has 100k+ population and 'random Mcforeigner-kun' can't just appear and inspire everyone to revolt on a suicide mission because Mcforeigner is a fucking foreigner.

5-10 years from now, in volume format, this might flow fine.

Might.
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>>289812110
except I do care about these shitter more than I ever cared about anyone from Wano, or current arc or flashback, whatever happens in OP right now
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>>289811897
Brion tanks this btw
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>>289811777
All Machi is doing is changing the shape of her aura, that's pure transmutation, the threadlike properties are just a consequence of that. Her aura is about as solid as hisokas, it's just not as elastic or sticky.
Consider Uvogin's Hatsu, which is just Ko, but harder. Hatsu doesn't mean a complicated ability, the base shape changing of transmutation IS Hatsu by itself!
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>>289811973
Oh, my view is that Zeno’s Dragon Head probably uses a combination of Transmutation, Emission, and Manipulation very roughly 50% Transmutation, 40% Emission, and 10% Manipulation. I think Zeno may still be using Emission to project his aura outward even while the dragon remains connected to his body. We also see the dragon separate from him entirely in some instances.

Their interpretation is more conservative and probably easier to defend from the text. They believe Dragon Head is entirely Transmutation while it remains connected to Zeno, and they do not interpret his hand gestures as evidence that he is controlling it through Manipulation.

So our disagreement is really about whether Emission can contribute to Dragon Head before the aura fully separates from Zeno, and whether his hand movements indicate the use of Manipulation.
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>>289812154
None of these shitters received the narrative love that Werefin got, and it shows.
No one in CA arc was expendable, here basically everyone is
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>>289812110
What the fuck is wano?
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>>289811409
Wait now that you mention it, I am so confused about nen abilities. I thought nen abilities are specifically thought of and voluntarily crafted by the user. Its not an innate power you are born with like X-men mutations.
Like Hisoka developed bungee gum, kurapika decided to conjure a chain and thought of different abilities based on it, Killua thought of electricity because he was tortured by it, Gon was inspired by Rock paper scissors etc..

So isn't Tserri's Time-skip ability an anomaly and he just happened to unlock this power like some X-men mutation. As far as we know, he has no interest in time manipulation or even a quantum physicist to gain a time based ability right?
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>>289812257
Or his nen beast gave him the ability like Halkunberg's gave him his
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ok nen scholars, answer this
How did Terrorburger got his ability
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>>289812257
Specialist, ultra ultra talented insane guy

Theta guided his learning. If it was something other than Zetsu it would be another type of ability, but "Zetsu" was the thing to learn (according to theta) so it became the trigger for the nen beast

And the Beast only gives Tserriednich "omnipotence in a 10 second window"
Its not time manipulation. Its future sight and illusionmaking
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>>289812212
There were tons of expendable characters in the CA arc what the fuck are you talking about. Everyone who died???
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>>289812308
Your question is beyond my capabilities, Meruem-sama...
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>>289812361
Named characters like who? Bloster? Rina? Colt? ikalgo? Bizef? That one Koala dude?
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>>289812308
See>>289812345

The beast got created spontaneously after Tse tortured a guy to death and Theta made it work through Zetsu
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>>289812367
thank you
I will rape you now
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>>289812179
kek hell nah. Like I already said, her thread as been shown to have tensile strength, rigidity and hardness. It dangles in the wind like a thread, and snaps like a thread. There is way more to her ability than shaped aura. She is 100% giving her aura properties.
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>>289812432
That's what transmutation does. Hisoka and Killua are the same

biscuit is the same (only she conjured a helper to pour the aura)
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>>289812257
>Wait now that you mention it, I am so confused about nen abilities. I thought nen abilities are specifically thought of and voluntarily crafted by the user. Its not an innate power you are born with like X-men mutations.
You can awaken a Nen ability by instinct. It's nothing new. Cheetu, Komugi, Meruem and the RGs etc. Halk did too. Beasts can influence them as wll.
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>>289812308
People aren't ready for this answer because they don't like Halkenburger either. But

1) Tse is extremely talented and a born specialist.
2) He had extreme will to win the sucsession war and more importantly, to rule over people. His desire for rule is something that sets other princes apart from him.
3) His Gaurdian Spirit Beast helped him. It helped him like Halkenberg's nen beast helped halkenberg spontaneously generate a nen ability. Tse's will to not be decived by a woman forced Theta's words to be the truth.
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>>289812432
I'm saying aura already has all those properties, it has a tensile strength, rigidity, and hardness, etc... Nen even has a naturally occurring shape. Transmutation is changing those properties to something different on command. Machi is a really skilled transmuter because she can extend her aura into such long fine threads, other people are struggling just making a few bumps and moving them around, Gon has difficulty just shaping it into a shortsword.
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>>289812482
Its a strong bet that Tse probably got subconsciously (mystically, ether) influenced by the seed urn ritual. Because a spirit beast got imposed upon him. Awakening nen and having your nen manifest as a spirit beast of your own creation in those circumstances is not strange.
That's the concept of nen that you heard first, after all. Nen beasts roaming around.
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>>289812512
absolutely no way does aura have any of those properties. Transmuted aura on its own looks like this. Its gloopy, weak and nearly formless.

Machi is literally transmuting her aura into nen thread. Her aura has the properties of thread now. Just like Hisoka's aura has the properties of rubber and gum. Machi is an amazing transmuter but she isn't skipping the transmutiuon process because "she is that good." from the unmistakable way her aura acts like thread, we can tell she is transmuting her aura into thread.
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>>289810618
>Giving aura solid substance and weight has been shown time and time again to be emission
Aura can just be made solid anon. Whether it's an enhancer using aura as a shield or a transmuter making heir hand solid for an attack. It's all the same and not shown to really be a category specific quality

>I.... uh... don't know where you are going with this Hisoka stuff
That finger gestures are just a personal thing people do and not something indicating manipulation. Why does Gon use two fingers when he transmutes his aura for scissors? Why not use a whole hand knife instead? The answer is he's a kid and basing his ability off RPS so two fingers just "feels" right to him.

If you missed the point about pip play, it's that aura changing shape is not itself manipulation and bending aura is just transmutation. The finger gesture is more than likely just how Zeno thinks about the action.
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>>289812257
There were spontaneous abilities before like Neon’s fortune telling but they were to do things the user already cared about and wished to be able to do. Tsneed randomly manifesting King Crimson because he learned zetsu is just lazy writing.
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>>289812669
He's a narcissist that thinks he can out think everyone around him and does value his foresight. We saw this when he accurately predicted the threat of teaching nen as a condition for manipulation or how he go his guards through the hunter's exam.

Zetsu being a trigger because Theta put it in his head is one part of the equation.
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>>289812538
Rihan?
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>>289812432
Part of Machi's ability if conjured iirc, the needle maybe
She could probably make that needle go through Nobunagas head if she wanted to
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>>289802858
>transmute your aura to have the properties of hallucinogenic drugs
>build up a tolerance
>use emission to disperse it in a closed environment
>give your opponents a bad trip while you're only minorly affected
Could this work?
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>>289813102
At that point you'd be Conjuring actual chemicals
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Sufficiently advanced transmutation is indistinguishable from conjuration
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>>289802858
>>289813102
>transmute your aura into oxygen
>power up your muscles with yamato-damashi and outbox every opponent
>breathe underwater
>easily cause thermobaric explosions
>fill an entire room with nen oxygen and then dismiss it to instantly cause everyone not holding their breath to pass out and die
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>>289813080
Machi carries around needles in her hair and in her cute glove pincusion :3
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>>289812763
no one really cares dude
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>>289812763
Zushi is not in this arc
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>>289810303
>It would be a highly advanced form of emission and conjured.
You're immensely retarded. Nen space and warping is 100% emission.
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>>289813080
She just seems to carry needles around
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>>289813137
This is the big problem nen theorists are running into right now :< the real problem is you have to be 130 IQ to even understand all the implications pf transmutation
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>>289813137
How does Emission connect into Manipulation? Like the utility overlap is obvious both ways, but what exactly is a midpoint EmitterxManipulator hatsu?
I guess Emitters can transfer properties of things like spacial swapping/remote sensing/etc... so maybe something like swapping/moving abstract concepts like loyalty or emotions? Like I can imagine an emitter shooting an emotion beam or performing a bodyswap, maybe that's a half manipulator ability?
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>>289813188
I.... I don't see how you are disagreeing with me anon O_O
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>>289813228
So you're saying they aren't conjured? Nobunaga can conjure a sword and he doesn't have as much affinity for conjuration as her
Fun fact Uvogin got tagged with Machi's needle while he was wrapped in Kurapika's chain, so its like MachiXKurapika had nensex ontop of Uvogin
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>>289813228
>heels
what a fag
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>>289813283
She can probably conjure a needle, but she obviously carries them around with her. Its a pretty big misconception that conjuring basic objects is hard.
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Threads would be better without the sad retards spamming the same retarded bait for attention.
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>>289813145
The age of 59 is in demand
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>>289802812
wut i really thought knuckle was an emitter, fit his personality type too
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>>289813353
Nice sad retarded bait
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>>289813283
>So you're saying they aren't conjured?
It's unlikely they are conjured. spending he memory space to conjure needles you can buy at the store for less than a dollar doesn't make a lot of sense.
> Nobunaga can conjure a sword
He likely needs a sword for his ability so the effort makes sense. She can still emit her aura without a needle as we've seen. Needles just make it convenient to sew things together.
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>>289813240
>average nen debater iq
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>>289813240
Manipulators aura stay in an object away from the user see illlumi needles
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>>289813240
Emission is detaching aura from oneself, manipulation involves infusing aura into something else. So the transition point is when the separated aura stops existing as a separate thing (emission) and becomes attached to something else (manipulation). I don't know how this applies to the difference between shu (enhancement) and manipulation though.
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>>289813368
he conjurers a little dude that attaches to people X_X
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>>289813282
I literally quoted the part I was arguing against you dysgenic freak. Don't waste any more of my time.
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>>289813422
>I don't know how this applies to the difference between shu (enhancement) and manipulation though.
Shu is just an application of Ten. Aura naturally surrounds the body and Shu is just treating something else as part of your body essentially. The body is also naturally enhanced even with just ten, we saw this when Killua clobbered Zushi and he tanked it. So if you wrap aura around something it is also naturally enhanced like a playing card or a sword.
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>>289813458
Biohazard's victims. The pigeons are no joke.
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>>289813445
He emits a little dude that attaches to people from a long distance
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>>289802211
Piyon has a cute butt and thights
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>>289813458
I would be interested in knowing how far they'd go if they were an active threat on the whale.
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>>289813552
*had
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>>289813465
wow such a strong argument, nice nitpick, I'm totally btfo and retarded now kek fucking wanker

next time try actually forming an argument with big boy words
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>>289813458
What if one of Morena's goons had Countdown?
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>>289813458
bara solos the whole of shueisha in a 1v1 tourny
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>>289811119
>a-actually he was royal guard tier
lmao
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My nen ability allows me to emit cum on Shizuka's belly and turds into hisoka/quwrow/machi anons mouthes simultaneously!
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>>289813613
It would be interesting if some of the players developed a cooperative ability. I'm sure two of them will. I do wish we'd get a set of chapters from their perspectives and exploring the boundaries of the contagion game.
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>>289813648
spiders' boss got yanked and raped by a femboy with abandonment issues
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I have an idea for an ability but have no idea what category it is -

In the beginner level, I can 'record' only 1 item in my special memory slot. In order to 'record' this item, I must constantly touch said item for an X amount of time which is determined by the size, shape and complexity of the item.
Once I have successfully recorded this item, O can permanently convert/transform any useless item to this recorded item provided this useless item has the same mass as of recorded item.
So if I 'record' a 100 dollar bill, I can convert a piece of paper of the same mass into a 100 dollar bid permanently or if I record a 'diamond jewel', I can convert a stone of same mass into the recorded diamond jewel.

What nen category is this ability? manipulation, transmutation or specialist? Also I maybe wrong about this but the reason this ability is converting existing items instead of conjuring it is because I assume conjured items have a time limit after loosing contact with the user.
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>>289813761
This pretty close to kortopi. It should be conjuration
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>>289813712
I don't think a bunch of low IQ murderhobos would be able or willing to make a cooperative ability
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>>289812308
I think it's simply because the princes have exceptional talent.
Halkenburg created his arrow almost instantly once he decided to participate in the war.
We don't know about Camilla but her nen post mortem cat isn't something your average hunter could do.
In Benjamin's case, his GSB can directly transform him into a nen god, a concept we've never heard of until now.
And I don't think anyone has pojnted it out, but Fugetsu also has latent talent. Her tunnel ability was originally a cooperative type and now she's feeding that GSB plus another one (Nencho) with her nen, all of that while she's still under that curse/attack or whatever the fuck it is.
I believe the other princes have the same potential to create abilities on the spot, but they haven't done so because they lack the interest to learn nen or they are too young to do it properly.
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>>289813761
conjured things stay. hisoka kept his conjured bungee gum arms even after he died.
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>>289813458
Seeing how some side characters have returned in this arc like Bisky, Izunavi, Basho, Melody and Hanzo, I am pretty hopeful that Genthru and his lackeys will return in the story in a future arc to support Gon and Killua along with reincarnated Kite and surviving Chimera Ants (maybe Gyro arc)
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>>289813873
Their entire set up right now functions off of cooperation. The ones who went off like lone wolves ended up dying fast.
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>>289813888
Why is Togashi worldview so childish? His every villains do this humans are... le bad!!! schitik
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But i thought Danchou was a leader ! Wait, you're telling me he's actually a gay cuck with a microcock. Nooooo spiderrbroooooss
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>>289813877
>I think it's simply because the princes have exceptional talent.
probably because of this seed urn making each generation greater than previous
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>>289813894
>Genthru comes back
>he turned his life around and now works as a regular hunter helping people
Imagine the meltdowns
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>>289813965
It's realistic
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>Please spread my butthole phantom troupe! We are one, remember. I'm sorry you guys had to see me like this...
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>>289802253
I read it all, babe
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Anon, give me your nutsack.
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>>289813894
I really hope not, he's so boring, the worst villain of the series, worse than the Heaven Arens cripples even. I'd rather have Razor.
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>>289814102
you already have one
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>>289814117
meanie ;_;
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>Pakunoda: I'm sorry you found me like this danchou...
>Chrollo: No, you guys continue. I'm a willing cuck.
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>>289814102
What about my nut on your face?
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>>289813357
Imagine catching the last egg before menopause
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>>289814030
buhi buhi~
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>>289813971
>>289814030
>>289814189
Uh oh clownsissy melty
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>>289814189
>Uvogin: Okay boss..whatever you say..cuck
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>>289814189
um, she's standing 2 m away from him
does Uvogin emits his cock near her?
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>>289814252
How strong would a rape goblin hatsu be?
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>>289812482
You mention Cheetu but isnt his ability more or less controversial because half of the scholars think the crossbow is a waste, while the others think its a compliment besides his extra claws?
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Is Cammy officially cooked after this chapter? Benjamin obviously infected her with TSK-17 before leaving the room
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>>289814218
enjoy prison, nonce
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>>289814311
>Benjamin obviously infected her with TSK-17 before leaving the room
How did you come to this brilliant revelation?
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>>289810588
she's so cool
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>>289813877
>I think it's simply because the princes have exceptional talent.
STRONG GENES is a real thing and it comes from both the father and the mother. In this regard Unma is a monster because
>Benjamin is a specialist that can tank bullets like he's an enhancer. He's a bit meat headed but still very intelligent
>Tserriednich is learning nen arguably faster than even Gon and Killua. Maybe because he's got some Netero genes as well. Tserri is also crazy but still highly intelligent
>Halkenburg achieved hatsu instantly and is currently running this war with all his maneuvering
No disrespect to the other queens. But Nasubi knew what he was doing she he wedded and bedded Unma. Wouldn't be surprised if she helped him win his succession war.
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>>289813965
At least Morena is a lot less pretentious than most Togashi villains
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this is just /dbs/ 2.0
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Stop Hisoka chrollo is watching like a cuc-OUUUUUUAANAHAHHAHAHADADIAYCYICIACIUCIUCIUCICICAUC
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>>289813980
That would be like 10% of the retardation levels Togashi already reached with the endings of the Chapter Black and Chimera Ant arcs
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>>289814372
Forgot my picture.
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I hope we see more of Tserriednich's friends this batch
I know a lot of people don't like them since they were the latest "literal who" characters introduced that seemed to serve no purpose except for bloating the named character count, but I like their dynamic. I want to see how the interact with Tserriednich in person.
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>>289814338
I read the chapter? or do you think he kept rambling about the virus then left her room "just because"
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>>289814469
Are you autistic? The guy you're replying to was just making a "Thanks,, sherlock!" post
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>>289814469
This batch has made me willing to lay down my life for Benjamin-sama and contribute my ability to the great tree of Kakin.
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>>289814429
5 more points for Borky
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>>289802477
>>there's little point in transmuting aura to have properties of a specific material if it would still be more efficient to just conjure that material
Did you speedread what Izunavi said?
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>>289814411
HISOKA... arghh...AARRGHH..
slow down
don't be so rough with my wife
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>>289814519
She looks like Julian from LoGH here
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>>289814400
It's just some mindbroken gay clowntard who has a mental breakdown every now and then, ignore him.
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>>289814512
why is everyone so mean in this thread?
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>>289814469
Wow I didn't catch that, thanks anon
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Gon-san levels of potential
Ultimate specialist by the end of this arc
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>>289814619
you probably jost forgor, like you always do
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>>289814593
Would you be chill after years of hiatus, battling retards, and shitposting?
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>>289814627
zero
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>>289814642
No I really didn't notice it
Retard
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>>289814647
idk about him but i'm pretty chill rn
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>>289802253
I will never understand how anons detest the card game. Morena is by far the most interesting (and cutest) antagonist in this arc.
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I think Tse didn't actually get shot by Ben, he probably used his ability to fool him.
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>>289814719
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>>289812631
>That finger gestures are just a personal thing people do and not something indicating manipulation. Why does Gon use two fingers when he transmutes his aura for scissors? Why not use a whole hand knife instead? The answer is he's a kid and basing his ability off RPS so two fingers just "feels" right to him.
I see your point. Gon swinging his fingers down is simply the mechanism by which Gon slashes downward. Zeno might be organically controlling his aura in a method like that. I can’t say you are wrong, but I don’t think it’s a very convincing argument. It’s like saying Netero isn’t manipulating his Buddha with his palm gestures. Even if you think that he is puppeting his Buddha with his hand gestures, there still has to be some mechanism that correlates hand movement with hand-numbered attacks. It might be low-level Manipulation, but it’s still Manipulation.

It’s the same with Zeno. His hand gestures are controlling the Dragon Head. He isn’t wrangling the head around like someone might do whip tricks. His finger movements correspond with Dragon Head’s movements. So, at some level, there is Manipulation going on.

What I believe you are implying is that Zeno is constantly reshaping his aura with Transmutation, correct? I just don't see this as an elegant technique a nen master would use. He would put manipulation and emission into his ability.
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>>289814760
congratulations, you are above the IQ threshold for mental retardation
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>>289814760
It would be pretty funny if Tse is actually dead because his ability malfunctioned
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>>289814424
>curse it down
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>>289814424
Moshi moshi?
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>>289814775
I would should the hunter trying to cuck me from theta
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>>289814760
>>289814311
Doubt
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>>289814851
Dump it
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>>289814372
>>289814424
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>>289814098
You think you’re special? Most people read it all. Most Hunter fans are at worst neutral about the card game, Kurapika talk, flashback. It’s only really here where people lose their mind over any one of these.
Also as shit as the flashback was, it seems like it was fanservice to appease the casual fan, and it worked Same tactic of putting Gon/Killua after Kurapika talked everyone to sleep about baby drool garbage stuff.
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>>289814886
>That madhouse QUALITY
her ears are not there...
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Guys, this Tse guy, is he alright? I heard shotgun can be pretty lethal
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>>289814929
Pitou could hear someone talking on the phone from her pocket so I'll give it a pass
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>>289814851
>>289814886
hello, is this the soup store?
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>>289814991
Neon's delicious titties
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I transmute my nen into stronger nen.
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What are the odds Theta is awoken by the shotgun blast and we get to see her next chapter?
Please Togashi, give us some Theta crubs this batch...
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I transmute my nen into emitted nen so that I can summon a nen beast.
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>>289814961
Tse will never forgive Kurapika for killing his future young bride (Neon). They were both body part collectors
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>>289815033
I transmute my nen into an irresistible aphrodisiac and use it to fuck Cammy for the entire duration of the voyage
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>>289814924
I honestly think this is the only Hunter fan place that’s not indoctrinated. You criticize the succession war anywhere else and you get ambushed and hung. Here people are very critical even if they overall are fine with the arc. I’d rather than then “everyone loves it don’t complain whore!”
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>>289815074
>for the entire duration of the voyage
You mean for the next 16-18 hours till she shits herself and then goes into a coma (kinky) and then dies
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>>289815179
why stop?
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>>289815179
Imagine hate fucking Cammy as she knows she is dying in less than 24 hours but cannot do shit about it
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>>289814886
He bought?
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>>289814991
You can actually by clothes at the Soup store.
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>uncs unironically thought "i'm at soup" was the funniest shit ever
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>>289814424
The phone call that saved Kakin
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>>289815296
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>>289813965
>t. human
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>>289814813
FUCK I DIDN’T THINK HE’D HAVE A SHOTGUN
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>>289815296
>>289815345
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>>289811983
hellbell isn't something you willpower through, not sure where the dumb idea that morena is vaguely under the effects of it came from
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>>289815296
>>289815345
>>289815428
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>>289814776
>It’s like saying Netero isn’t manipulating his Buddha with his palm gestures
The difference here is that he Boddhishivta isn't a part of him. I am in the camp that thinks the statue is emissions + transmutation. But I also say that emitted aura articulating is still just transmutation. Same as Hisoka's new fingers and foot, and pic related.

Manipulation applies to Netero because the statue acts on a pre-loaded instruction based on Netero's hand configuration. I see why this might seem the same but I don't think it takes manipulation to make aura articulate by default. I will admit that I'm not 100% against a manipulated aura perspective, I just think that both categories can achieve similar results and that pure transmutation has been shown to answer this question.

>What I believe you are implying is that Zeno is constantly reshaping his aura with Transmutation, correct?
yes. No different than when Bisky asks Gon to shift through multiple numbers with her transmutation raining. Changing he shape whether it's morphing a 1 into a 7 is still transmutation. Zeno was just making a big 1 into a big 7 but can mentally signify this by using a hand gesture.
>I just don't see this as an elegant technique a nen master would use
It's not necessarily elegant but it's effective. Just like how a Ko punch from Uvo isn't elegant but it would kill a lot of characters on impact. What's impressive is how much aura Zeno can pump out and how far he can push it without emissions. Even his En is the largest any human character has managed.
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>>289813348
>>289813378
>>289813283
Machi's sandals are conjured btw
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>>289815670
No, they're emitted
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Cammy raped me
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She likes to wear bare socks everywhere but its nice to be able to conjure sandals on demand when it rains so her socks don't get wet
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>>289815708
They become emitted when she throws them at Hisoka
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>>289815146
On reread everything is better…but Card game and Baby swap back to back is brutal after a 2 year wait. Thank god we’re now in Martial law and maybe the text x text will slow down a little bit.
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>>289815428
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>>289812530
Tse first learned about nen through Kurapika's "SPIRIT BEASTS CAREFUL BROS".
Theta focused his training on Zetsu.
The turmoil of annoyance at the betrayal of that fucking whore Morena combined those. Zetsu makes another nen beast with foresight, because he probably wished he could've seen this coming and not get fucking betrayed by that fucking piece of meat whore Morena.

Simple enough if you ask me.
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Netero's Buddha is obviously not nen. It is a golem.
Only God can grant life, so this is why Netero prays before the statue appears.
This is related to why Netero and Beyond are the strongest humans in the HxH world as they are members of God's chosen people. (Beyond babies don't count because it follows the mother's line).
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>>289815453
Anon that hand has nothing to do with hellbell. All we know about hellbell is pic related.
The Morena Hellbell theory exists because Morena has insane homicidal desires that aren't coherent.
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>>289815887
>Morena has insane homicidal desires that aren't coherent
Uh yeah, I'm sure her being repeatedly raped as a child had nothing to do with it
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>>289815887
t. Nasubi
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>>289815887
Victim Blamer
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>>289815453
>hellbell isn't something you willpower through,
Source?
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>>289815920
Thats no reason to want to destroy the world -_-; or start murdering innocent people. Jezz the morality of people in this thread.

I was raped therefore the world must burn isn't coherent.
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>>289815887
I still don't get how the hellbell is dangerous enough to be considered a calamity. Yeah, it stings someone and makes him go crazy and want to murder people but how is it worse than the ants? Can't you just shoot it or something?
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>>289815887
>panels showing all calamity victim corpses save zobae has a hand that's been morphed into various violent weapons? ridiculous, zero connection
>someone being angry for established character-driven reasons? definitely the doing of a creature from the dark continent
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>>289816017
You have autism
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>>289816017
It doesn't justify her beliefs and actions, and no one is saying that, but it does make them understandable. She suffered a lot so she wants other people to suffer or just to end the world so suffering doesn't happen anymore.
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>>289815920
She needs therapy, not omnicide
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>>289816018
You have to look at the chart and assume it doesn't just make you go on a stabbing spree. It makes you want to REALLY kill people. Like Sink the Titanic kill people. Or start ww3 tier kill people.
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>>289816018
For one thing it's a whole species. For another we don't actually know how it transmits anything with certainty. It might also be auditory. And the most crucial detail is probably the hand of the victim. >>289815453 The mutated individual probably becomes extremely deadly.
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>>289816086
Can therapy really help you recover from being raped 24/7?
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>>289816017
That mentality exists irl, people shoot up schools then kill themselves because they were bullied or whatever
Hell, murders are committed every day for far more retarded reasons
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>>289816032
How the fuck is turning your hand into the thing homicidal desire anon?
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Morena just like me frfr
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>>289813283
Nobunaga doesn't conjure a sword. He handmakes those, as per him being annoyed at possibly losing his sword AGAIN just after he made another one.
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>>289815852
make sense
thanks to ALL nen scholars itt who answered my question
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>>289816124
Maybe not the typical weekly therapy sessions but full time therapeutic communities were invented to help people with PTSD
Kakin probably doesn't have anything like that though
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>>289813458
Legit chance of that. If Shu's showing of Hinrigh/Lynch/Zakuro is indicative of Sha, they'd steamroll either of them.
Ei's contagion buffs their aura after kills and 50 points being a gamechanger with little showing of just what it can do now makes me hesitate to take a stance on them though.
I feel like they should, but wild cards and such.
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I wish you could report anons for 67 memes
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>>289816047
no he's just retarded, reading these threads made me realize how fucking low the general level of reading comprehension actually is
>Bork going "what the hell is she so angry about?"
>I got treated as a human cocksleeve and beaten the shit out of my entire life
>oh fuck it must be a calamity from the other side of the world!

legitimate stupid people that read and can't process simple cause and action, again look at the motherfucker that didn't understand that Theta was trying to stifle Tse's progress when she outright said what she was going to do and how she was going to do it, or the other bastard that feels smart for realizing that Ben poisoned Cammy when it was established, done, shown and told by fucking Ben himself, the fucking characters are telling what they're doing and they do not understand it, so either these are bots that see the images but don't understand context because they don't have the previous chapters in their backlogs or third worlders with a 2 digits IQ
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If Dragon Ball exists in the HxH universe then JoJo probably does too. It’s probably common for nen users to rip their hatsu from manga.
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>>289813761
Likely conjuration, really.
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>>289813283
Nobunaga transmuted a new tip
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>>289816311
what was wrong with his old one? circumcised?
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I just want a nen ability to conjure a private bathroom. That would be comfy.
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>>289816138
Literally every part of your body is given the desire to kill, it's pretty obvious. It's not up for debate whether it is or isn't Hellbell either way
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>>289816290
If manga existed in the hxh world every single nen user would have a rape hatsu.
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>>289816138
NTA but Togashi it makes me think of The Thing (Togashi is a known fan), I assume every body part grows teeth or claws or whatever and becomes murderous independently
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Tse's GSB bears a striking resemblance to the women he killed right before the ceremony
His second nen beast manifested right after he killed someone associated with Morena
If Theta lies to him again she's likely going to get turned into a nen beast
I bet the way that Tse dies in the end will be from having too many nen beasts feeding off of his aura after he kills a bunch of people
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Nen makes zero sense in universe the more I think about it, Benjamin now wishes to recruit Kurapika so that his army is filled with nen users, but how come previous Kakin emperors did not already try to have their army learn nen? how come even some of the princes only discovered nen with the SW, I mean Tse who is supposedly a cultured fellow has never heard of the ability that grants humans superpowers?
are you trying to tell me a guy who collects niche artifacts had no idea magic exists in his world despite his own bodyguard being able to use it?
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>>289816423
>NTA but Togashi it makes me
but it made me*
I'm retarded and didn't proofread my post
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I would just like to say I was right by the way, the guy who got face stabbed by Kanjidol through the pillow wasn't Odessa, because here he is in 415 between Javietti and Macne just fine. Retarded faggots who jumped the gun and edited his wiki page to list him as dead when the guy who died looked nothing like him were wrong.
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>>289816413
There's no way you could make a hypnosis rape hatsu
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>>289816485
Will Tyson get shot in the face next chapter
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>>289816544
hopefully
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>>289816124
If its with pakunoda yeah
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So if Benjamin used the virus on Camilla, why would he not use the Virus on Tsseri? He knows Tesseri can use Nen, why would he think a simple gun blast would kill him? I really hope this isn't case next chapter.
If he just used the virus an walked away like he did with Camilla, Tsseri might not have thought nothing even happened so would not activate his ability and would get affected by the virus. He stated that Camila and Tsseri were the biggest threats so I would think he would use both viruses on them.
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>>289816448
do Nen beast smell?
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>>289816462
It worked very early on when nen baptism was supposed to be super dangerous but now we have Kurapika and Morena making dozens of nen users on a whim and it’s really hard to believe that this is the first time it’s ever happened
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>>289816507
Ooga booga Machi is fine too
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>>289816572
He used virus on Camilla because of her ability, not because she can use nen in general
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>>289816572
>He knows Tesseri can use Nen
He learned that like 5 seconds before he shot him, and probably didn't have any dose left in his boot after using it on Cammy
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>>289816608
>>289816622
If a mf is standing in front of you using Zetsu then he obviously has a counter type hatsu, the fact that Benjamin just blasted with no care was pretty stupid
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>>289816448
Tse and those women have a cookie cutter beautiful face. Thinking those 2 became his nen beast is pretty out there because they look vaguely similar.
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>>289816572
>>289816665
Benjamin was probably under the impression that Tserriednich just learned nen (which was true) and that he probably doesn't have a hatsu yet (which wasn't true)
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>>289816622
>>289816572
also, he has a constant headache, nausea, diarrhea from TSK-17 and on top of that he was just cursed
To put it simply, he is just not in the right state of mind
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>>289816407
Wow, it could be Zombie or Byron. Its extremely sloppy thinking assuming you know something that no one knows
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>>289816544
Would free up Izunavi for something else, I'd like that.
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>>289816665
>NO, YOU CAN'T JUST TAKE THE INITIATIVE!!!
Zeno disagrees. Also Ben is on the clock so he doesn't have much options
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>>289810924
It physically travels in the air and is affected by time, so most likely yes.
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>>289813102
It’s my issue with Halkenburg taking over Luzurus’s body.
When he took over he would instantly become high as fuck and he would not know how to function
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>>289816772
This fight was so dumb
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>>289816665
In Benjamin's perspective, Tse was just a newbie in the middle of training nen basics. Which is kind of true. It usually takes months/years to learn nen, he couldn't have guessed he was a one in a billion genius (and probably wouldn't want to believe it since he fucking hates him).
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>>289816772
This page should hopefully shut up any future arguments about why would Ben shoot.
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>>289816826
Halk tripping the whole chapter trying to understand what to fuck is going on could be fun
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>>289816804
But it's not classified as an attack, it's an ability. Limitless only stops attacks.
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>>289816826
>>289816856
>take over Balsamilco's body
>wtf why do I get an erection whenever I look at Benjamin
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>>289816842
Benji has known Tser his whole life and Tser has always shown himself to be a genius in everything he's ever done. Benji should know better, but I could see him just getting upset since Tser mogs him so hard.
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>>289816772
>>289816842
Zeno wouldve died right then and there if he pulled this shit against Cammy, early HxH contradicts current HxH, now every single character cannot make a move before they gather actual intel on their targets
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>>289816562
>Kurapika killed the only person that could have saved the world
Dumbass
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There's a calamity on board the Black Whale ship.
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>>289816908
>Limitless only stops attacks.
His ability differentiates between different types of things, it's not just attacks and it works automatically.
He wouldn't let some weird spiritual energy be exempt.
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>>289816826
>Instantly asks for water to clear his mouth when he gets control of Luzurus's body
>Orders the legal drugs to be destroyed because drugs are bad mmkay
It's Halkenburg
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>>289816967
The sixth calamity humanity brought back...
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>>289816124
Just stop crying about it
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sheila
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>>289816124
Im sure a nen therapist can help you navigate trauma using their hatsu or simply erase it deep inside your psyche so you can live a normal life
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>>289816124
>>289817038
it won't help, you gotta rape your rapist back
on then you can move on with your life
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>>289816936
He wouldn't have.
>non-combatant, unafraid and smug despite zero fighting experience and strength, obviously goading him into attacking
>hmm, must have a counterattack type ability, let's make her make the first move
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>>289816727
It's a solid theory. We see a zobae victim and it doesn't look like that at all.
The crushed and twisted bodies here are probably Nanika (or some other Ai) victims, as we've seen in previous chapters. The withered bodies are pap victims. Brion's victim is obviously the headless corpse.
So that leaves the hand with teeth as Hellbell's victim.
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>>289817080
Ging is so lucky
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>>289817080
Did the Kurta Clan men stuff her with cum before or after her brutal executuon?
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>>289817093
Cammy is such a retard for being so brazenly obvious with her hatsu, she would easily win this shit if she kept quiet and under the radar, Benjamin wouldve shot her on sight once he declared martial law had she not exposed her ability
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>>289817140
Forgot my pic.
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What other bullshit theories did I miss? We’ve got
>The black whale will sink
>Theres a calamity in the boat
>Beyond and/or Nasubi will mass scarification civilians to power up the succession contest
>There will be wide spread baby killing to eliminate the woble on the boat
> the truth of the Kurta massacre will be discovered
>a new contagion cult will start
Am I missing any bullshit theory?
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>>289816727
This is what everybody knew by process of elimination when the chapter dropped. These NewWorld-esque theories that Hisoka, Morena, etc. got bit by Hellbell are the ones that came from speedreaders after the fact
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>>289817215
Nen is a calamity
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>>289816772
Zeno made a correct read of Chrollo's intentions before acting.
Ben didn't even think about why Tse was in Zetsu during a situation where it would be basically suicide to do so.
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>>289817215
The boat is still on the dock, it has not left yet.
think about it, it has no windows so how would anyone know?
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>>289817215
togashi's self insert shows up on the boat at the end of the mailing time limit and btfo's the filthy kakin imperalists with his sick gunji skills
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>>289816834
Because Zeno is a retarded character, one of Togashi's worst.
>Yorknew City
>2v1 against Chrollo with my expertly trained assassin son
>Chrollo hasn't done anything except dodge
>Clearly have him outnumbered and outgunned
>SON YOU MUST KILL ME TO KILL HIM FOR SOME REASON PLEASE IGNORE THAT HE'S DONE NOTHING AND CAN ONLY DODGE
>Palace invasion
>I have been contracted to help kill the ant king
>Oops I accidentally hurt an innocent bystander with my technique that rains hundreds of aura bolts down from the sky in a mile wide radius
>I have somehow never hit anyone I wasn't suppose to with this attack before
>WAHHHHHH WAHHHH I'M LEAVING I MESSED UP FUUUKK FUUUCK SOOOOOON KILL THIS CHEETAH MAN
>Vanish from the story despite the next arc being critical to my family
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>>289817281
There are several shots of it sailing on the ocean thoughever
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>>289817215
The dark continent is just another island on an even bigger lake
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>>289817294
please kill me SILVA PLEASE FUJCING KILL ME IN ORDER TO DEFEAT THIS DUDE
Umm actually if I faced you one on one things would be…

Shit up retarded old man. Chrollo is stronger
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>>289817343
That's literally what he says, he knew Chrollo was just stalling and not fighting seriously.
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>>289816124
For me, I had to accept that a part of me liked it and then accept that part of me is disgusting and that person out that in me. It took years, but I'm over it now. No therapy.
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>>289817080
why did she troon out?
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dark continent isn't even real. the neteros are just being dicks
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>>289817336
What is the lake called?
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>>289816520
>lacking critical information
oh no no no
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>>289817377
Favorite HxH character?
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>>289817445
Mobius iirc
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>>289817471
Alluka
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>>289817445
MORBIUS
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>>289817179
Me on the left
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>>289817471
Pitou. And Morel.
>>289817491
You're not me.
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>>289817215
>The black whale will sink
This one is barely a theory, it's something the arc itself is suggesting over and over. That happening this far into the voyage is another matter
>the truth of the Kurta massacre will be discovered
Also a likely event, but nothing to the effect of the Kurta "deserving" it or being linked to anything involving Sarasa and/or Sheila
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>>289817445
double mobious !
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>>289817558
Black whale sinking is too ambitious even for Togashi. It would guarantee the arc would never end form all the chapters it would take to handle
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>>289817607
quite the opposite, the black whale sinking is a quick way to kill off a bunch of people
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>>289817627
Togashi does not have it in him to draw it sinking, best he can do is pages of characters standing still and talking
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>>289817179
Is that guy supposed to be Mark Myman?
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>nanrika make everybody on the black whale re-alived!
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Why didn’t one of the princes just hire the troupe or the Zoldycks, are they stupid?
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>>289817917
>the troupe
>hire murder hobo thieves
That’s dumb. If anything they should hire Hisoka.
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>>289817917
I figured Illumi is there to kill a Prince, or Mafia family head.
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>>289816462
As >>289816583 highlighted, Nen jumpstarts are extremely dangerous if you remember what Wing said: Those with evil intentions will end up killing or crippling the ones that dont have any experience or defense (the infamous being naked on a snowstorm quote).

What Theta said to Tse was the truth, it's just that Kurapika had a very convenient hatsu that allowed those things in a safe manner.
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>>289817140
nta but I think the hand is 50/50. We see a Zobae survivor but we don't see anyone who dies from the disease. It could be that the fourth corpse is someone who died from the disease and, instead of becoming an immortal cannibalistic zombie, his dead body became something like The Thing that keeps trying to eat everything around it and doesn't die no matter how much it gets dismembered. It's hand grew mouths because it lost its original mouth with which to feed.
People infected by Hellbell could just look normal for all we know. The "Morena is infected by hellbell" theory is still retarded.
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>>289817080
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>>289816622
We saw there were two vials of the virus left, when one was used on Halkenburg. If he was smart Benjamin likely put 1 in each boot. It doesn't make since for the vial to be split between the boots as its already specialized as it is. I don't know who he would save the other for. But it shoudl have ben Tsseri
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>>289817607
>>289817660
your talking points are too outdated
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>>289818100
>we don't see anyone who dies from the disease
The whole point is that it makes you immortal, no?
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>>289817224
I hate how you confuse careful reading and thinking with speedreading. Some people don't assume things like you do
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>>289818277
Well, there were only six survivors. It could have been from the cannibalism or that the diease has a high chance to kill you and turn you into the thing lite but if you survive you turn into a regular zombie.
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>>289816936
nen system is kinda ruthless

you make first move?
countertype ability / post morte nen -> You are dead or even worse, fucked by a curse

you don't make the first move?
You give time to your enemy to set up the conditions of their ability -> You are fucked.
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>>289817215
OH MY NEN BABY
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>>289818337
the troll doesn't have much sauce to it
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Goreinu
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>>289817700
>Nanika heal this serial killer
What now?
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>>289814886
bork bork bork
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>>289817215
I think it's more likely Beyond is going to repurpose the nen from the succession contest to make his expedition into the dark continent successful, or as a weapon against the gatekeeper, and let kakin collapse.
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>It's another thread full or retards thinking someone in Zetsu being a threat should be a logical conclusion
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>>289814271
>Not using your enhancer powers to have giga horse cock.
NGMI
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>>289818781
giga horse cocks are emitted
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>>289818860
They are clearly conjured,dummy.
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>>289817164
you really can't. its a dumb ability because staying in zetsu is like being naked. its openly announcing something is going on
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>>289818365
Wobble is emited!?
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>>289818344
Most nen users probably don't have counter abilities or complicated conditional abilities. 90% of them probably just punch shit, shoot emitter beams, or conjure a weapon.
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Guys, would you rate my headcanon nen ability?
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>>289819012
no, wobbble is
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>>289811074
>Naruto is a enhancer, his only natural talent was enhancing his speed.
Actually dont think so? No? Not really? I dont remember that at all. Well, in all ~140 first episodes of naruto. He was mainly about deception and trying to blend-in with clones, and wait for opening.
He turned himself into a big-ass shuriken, and let Saske throw him (or other way around)
He tried to blend-in with clones during chunin exam forest
With Neji he tried to sneak on him underground
Then he used clones to fight the bone-guy.
I...dont think he's an enhancer, really. Emmition, maybe? With his clones working as an emmiter+manipulation, and his rasengan being emmiter+enhancer? At least that makes sense. Also Emiter works good with personality chart too, "impatient, not detaii-oriented, short-tempered, quit to action"
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>>289819319
nice cock
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>>289816448
It doesn't look like them. The nose and shoes are different. It's really bizarre you circled them like anyone would look at them and go, "Yup! They're identical." They very clearly aren't.

>>289816572
>So if Benjamin used the virus on Camilla, why would he not use the Virus on Tsseri?
Because he just used it on Camilla.
>He knows Tesseri can use Nen
He learned that right now.
>why would he think a simple gun blast would kill him?
Because it would kill most Nen users and he was in Zetsu. He just killed a Nen user with it 10 seconds ago.
>If he just used the virus an walked away like he did with Camilla, Tsseri might not have thought nothing even happened so would not activate his ability and would get affected by the virus
Benjamin doesn't read the manga, anon.
>I would think he would use both viruses on them
He used the virus on Camilla because he wanted to kill her and he needed to get around her ability, but he has a more personal grudge with Tserriednich. He wanted to take his time and torture him to death, but he's in a hurry so this is his compromise.
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>>289819534
Thanks, i've conjured it.
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>>289818970
It's not confirmed that her ability requires zetsu like Tse's, she could have just been making it easier for the guard to kill her because she's a dumbass
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The strongest nen user on the boat btw
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Kurapaika solos the ants. One judgement chain on merum and it's over
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>>289820513
He could just get Hina to exorcise it
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>>289809681
he knows Benjamin is a meathead and would fuck up somehow
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>>289820546
stearu dolphinoru!



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