>no threadDid the lack of Vita kill it? Are Nantoka Tomodachi and Feito-chan not enough?
Finally, a Nanoha thread made the day of the ep and not prematurely
>no vita>no spaceships>no magic battlesThis ain't nanoha
>>289812346Your Wolkenritter are right here
MORE
Nanoha will be in this episode for sure! Hopefully for more than just her fight scene though.
>>289812647I just want them to trasform for once
Surely things will happen in this episode right????
Bros...the nekos are mogging us again
The lack of anything "Nanoha" other than the characters being pasted into some scenes killed the hype.
I love Miss Gunblaze. I want to eat her out while she's still living in a tent like a hobo and smells worse than Nanoha in that doujin.
clingy
As much as I like Exceeds I wish they would do something other than just talk and talk every episode. This episode there almost was some action but then they just stopped and started talking again.
I thought this was meant to be a Resident Evil fanfic, but Resident Evil at least focuses on killing monsters, while here it's all skipped over. What's the point?
>>289813318Wasted all their budget on the first episode.pls understand
>necrobumping a dead thread for an anime you don't like
>>289813442I was necrobumping your mom last night
>>289813544being a corpse fucker is nothing to brag about
>>289812180Because this isn't Nanoha. It's something else with these two cameoing.
>>289813442Learn what the word means before using it bucko.
>>289813208They are the cutest Nanoha and Fate in the Nanoha franchise so far, I hope we see lots of befriending between them soon
>>289813778Learn to count to ten
>>289814076Learn to not cry on an anonymous imageboard.
>>289814097Close but not quite. First comes one. Do you know what comes after one?
>Nanoha should be cuter, funnier, and have access to a time machine>Whenever Nanoha's not on screen, all the other character should be asking "where's Nanoha?"
>>289814344>Nanoha should be cuter, funnier, and have access to a time machineWe had Gears of Destiny the last time there was a time machine in Nanoha, so that's not a bad idea
This episode was so bad holy shit
Terrible transformation sequence...
>explosive reproductionuh oh. we can't let Shiina go any further with her girlfriend!
>>289812180kinda refreshing that the not really villains are not against exceed or trying to murder them for no reason, nor nanoha and others are trying to arrest them
Explain right now why Rein is full sized, this shit feels like they didnt watch the originals
Nanoha feels like it should have way better animation and shit for how old it is...
>Get attacked by a stealthy combatants>Obviously exfiltrating after being discovered>I know, I'll chase and bind them to tell them to evacuate!One brain cell
The progenitor plot getting offscreen is pretty disappointing but not as disappointing as those lame transformations. I already disliked the BJ redesigns and the devices's new voices and I was not really expecting fanservice but I at least wanted some cool animation.
Is there ANYTHING those spiders can't do?
>>289816125It is explained in vivid
>japaneseI know this boat has already sailed but I HATE IT
Reiwa era Nanoha
>>289816597Conceal their presence since they got spotted both by Nanoha gang and evil green.
>>289816749I guess
>>289816597I'm not even sure how that's supposed to work. Are they casting invisibility spells? Putting aside it didn't actually work because of superior Midchilda tech.
Yea, there is no budget injected into this show
>>289816684It is also pretty stupid that the druggie powers can jam their communication, considering they are talking telepathically and not over radio.
Yeah okay that transformation was shit but at least there was one.I was stating to fear we wouldn't get one at all.
Will she be able to carry this series?
I think Fate-chan is extremely cute.
>>289816976At this point, getting nothing would've been preferable.
>>289816730>covered feet
I came, like, everywhere
>finally Nanoha getting some onscreen action>she dodges attacks for 10 seconds then it just endsKill me.
Fucking Quincy schrift. Honestly the entire series feels like I am watching a recap of a show that already happened.
I wanted NANOHA, not whoever these girls are for 20 minutes straightAt least AT-X is airing the first two movies this month
I'll need to rewatch the first two seasons to cleanse my palate. And maybe Strikers even.
>>289816597Make this show good
>>289814747The only good entry with the Gears and Materials...
are eiji and mana fugging
God, the direction is so fucking bad. The action is so fucking bad.At least we got some crappy transformation sequences, I guess.
Even this shitty anime can't make Fate look uncool.
>>289817621When the ending song started playing I thought I was only half way in, how did they spend 20 minutes doing nothing
>>289813318I do like that Nanoha and co are being extremely diplomatic. It fits the UN bullshit bill.But god do I miss the befriending.
>>289816730Where is the nude transformation?
>>289817273A literal time bending melee fighter is probably Nanoha's worst match-up, since she's more of a mid-range blaster type. Or so Vivid tried to portray her.
>>289817300Wrong, a recap would actually show you the good parts while cutting the fluff. All of the interesting action setpieces, sol and political intrigue so far have happened off-screen.
>>289816730>Raising Heart immediately in lame re-designed Exelion modeThis project is staffed entirely by buffoons, I swear.
It's not delivering on fanservice, it's not delivering on action, it's not delivering on yuri, it's not delivering on nostalgic character moments, it's not delivering on production values. What the fuck is this for? Who is it for? Why was this even made?
I take back all criticism for Strikers we didn't know how good we had it back then fuuug
>>289817864>Why was this even made?To boost the popularity of the I'm Enterprise VAs.And since it carries the Nanoha name they can just shovel this slop out and it'll still make money.
>>289817721If the scene showed something to that effect I wouldn't complain. But just nothing happened there. They did nothing and then they stopped doing nothing to do nothing instead.
>>289817721That would be a good point if Nanoha didn't spend the majority of Strikers and Vivid effortlessly handling melee fighters much stronger than Towa while having her powers suppressed. The old Nanoha would've just binded Towa from the start.
>>289817634Fate looks so good, how can she possibly be so cool? Nanoha is so lucky. I hope neither of them loses a limb this season.
>>289812180>lack of VitaGoing full anti lolicon was also not it, you know?
>>289817870At least it was still Nanoha, this I don't even know what it is.
>>289817913I feel like the intention was that Nanoha was struggling against this foe, to show how incredibly powerful they are and how gimped Nanoha is on this world.But the action direction is so fucking bad that it all falls incredibly flat. It's complete garbage.Old Nanoha had the direction of mech fights, airplane dogfights. This shit looks like it's made by VN artists, for teenage VN slop consumers.
>>289817870Genuinely, what was wrong with StrikerS? That was peak Nanoha.
>>289818002Not to those who liked Nanoha 1st season already for what it was.
>>289817931>I hope neither of them loses a limb this season.You expect anything of even remote interest to happen to Nanoha or Fate? They're background characters, bro, they exist to pad the 'good guy' side against the super cool Demon Slayer squad and spout exposition.
>>289818002no lolis
>>289817062>leg-humping hetslutFuck no. She should've been a depraved lesbian who loved torturing all the little girls.
>not a single shot of Fate's assIt's never been so over
>>289818002>Genuinely, what was wrong with StrikerS?I believe the general complaints are that they tried to push a new MC (Subaru) and tried to pull Nanoha to the backline, alongside the limiter stuff.But they actually did it properly back then. Fantastically, even. Complete gold compared to Exceeds.
>>289818002Now you're going too far, 2nd half was good yes but 1st half was pretty mild, especially compared to A's which was peak.
>>289818002The training arc filtered a bunch of plebs, looking back it took way to many episodes than it shoulda been, but after that when vivio shows up and shits hits the fan it becomes peak nanoha
>>289818002>new main characters>cast bloat>hags>training arc>fighting tin cans for god knows how many episodesAnd even then it was more interesting than this.
Subaru was cool
>>289818107>looking back it took way to many episodes than it shoulda beenThe pace was a bit meh, but I think it worked. It worked up well to the cool-your-head scene, it showed actual progress, it showed Nanoha working these kids like dogs, it proved that they weren't just prodigy shonen characters that came out of the factory pre-equipped to megakill, they actually had to work for it.I think StrikerS was actually really fucking good in terms of showing Nanoha as an instructor, rather than just raw action.
>>289818194Subaru was kinda lame. Her build-up wasn't great. She could've been better.But she wasn't bad!
>shit "transformations">nanoha jobbing to shaow the edgehog>FATE DOING NOTHING>hey look its the Wolkenritter now say bye to them>killing the kaijus offscreen againbros can it even be savaged at this point?
>>289818233>bros can it even be savaged at this point?Don't worry, Nanoha is gonna befriend the green-haired whore and nuke Zero and accidentally kill Shiina who will then rise from the ashes as a loli like a phoenix.
WHERE IS THE DIVINE BUSTER MY NANOHA WOULDA BEFRIEND EDGELORD WITH ONE TWO EPISODES AGO
>>289818233I mean, if they suddenly start doing the opposite of whatever they're doing right now, maybe.
>>289818002>vivio>hag nanofate>politics
>>289816730AHAHAHAHA!!!! Censored to hell and back.
>>289818679There's not even anything to censor there. These motherfuckers genuinely afraid to even know how to draw an attractive female body and nice shots.
>>289817870I know, right? StrikerS didn't know what the fuck is was doing, but it was actually trying. ExceeD knows exactly what it's doing. And it's shit.
>>289818002Training arc is shit. I would even say that once we got out of training arc it is way better than whatever Exceed is trying to do right now.
>>289818233>nanoha jobbing to shaow the edgehogbut she didn't even fight properly
>>289818233I don't think so. I think it's done. We're done. It's over.
>>289816730Obligatory.
>>289818979It isn't. There is over half of the season left.Things can get much worse still.
>>289818002I have never read genuine StrikerS criticism beyond that there are too many characters, I think they were handled very well (except for the Numbers)
The series isn't all that interesting to me so far. I've also finished watching the two movies for the first and second seasons. All I have left are this and Vivid/Vivid Strike. Rough times ahead.>>289816570In the most recent manga chapter they were hyping up the progenitors, only for them all (except the missing one mentioned this episode) to get off screened this episode. The writers didn't really think any of this plot through it seems.
>>289819064>It isn't. There is over half of the season left.You're right, I should remain optimistic...>Things can get much worse still.Goddamn it.....
>>289812180This show looked like so incredibly my jam from the promotional stuff, but it's really not living up to that hype at all. These girls aren't even that edgy. And it feels so, so cheap...
>>289816730Finally the transformation scene I've been waiting fo... not even the usual Nanoha nudity, nuke this series, it's pure crap
>>289819096>Vivid StrikeThis one's weird. It's not really about Nanoha and friends, and is also about two new girls.... but HOLY SHIT is it brutal. "That" flashback with the bullies? FUUUUUCK. I haven't seen a beatdown that vicious since the first episode of Tenjou Tenge.
>>289819096>The series isn't all that interesting to me so far.That's alright. Nanoha is a weird magical girl / mecha show. If you don't like it, you probably also don't like Symphogear and Yuuki Yuuna.Some people just aren't into it.Are you working your way through StrikerS?
>>289819132there is 0 friction among the groups>we kill monster you hunt drugs ok have fun bye
>>289818979This really is the end, isn't it? Up to now there was a chance that Nanoha as a franchise would revive, but EXCEEDS is turning out to just be the cheapskate funeral by relatives that don't give a fuck.I give a fuck though. Thank you for the memories.
>>289819132>And it feels so, so cheap...I feel like the entire budget went into the character designer and making sure the animators accurately portray said designs.And they forgot about everything else.Well, big budget for the OG VAs, I guess.
>>289819096It is kinda funny how there were people in past threads using the magic nerf and how much of a threat the progenitors are as a way to cope with the bad writing and pacing only for that shit to not matter. You should read Vivid and Vivid Life before watching Strike. The anime is bad and incomplete and Vivid Strike is a sequel to the manga anyways.
>>289819247I too was a bit harsh on StrikerS when it came out, but man, looking back they really were trying to do right by us. We didn't know how good we had it. I apologize, StrikerS. I'm sorry.
>>289819271I actually own the Japanese manga for Vivid. I'm quite proud of that.
>>289819219Symphogear is excellent. Nanoha is alright.>>289819228Exactly. I'm sure they're going to fight, but we're half way through the show and I couldn't tell you why. Some vague "b-but the law" or something, I guess?>>289819265I went from the movies to this. It's so jarring. I know a show isn't going to have the budget or quality of a movie, but man.
>>289819160there's literally only that one scene, the rest of the show is nothing at best and offensively boring at worst
>>289819489Bullshit. The series isn't great, but going from ViviD to Strike was jarring. The beating in the ring were on a whole other level than Vivid.
>>289819466>Some vague "b-but the law" or something, I guess?i though that was going to be shii since hating the cops and would told nanoha to fuck off for bering a un glowie but here we are
>>289819489Miura getting her shit kicked in was pretty fun too
>>289819489I loved Vivio vs Rinne though, the series is nothing great, but I thought it was a decent watch
>>289819517It's just stupid, it insults the viewer. Nothing make sense. Seems like one person wrote the plot, another did the characters, and they never spoke to each other.Vivio is talked about as weak and feeble but she's actually super strong and talented.Rinne is talked about as a once in a generation prodigy but the only thing she can do is punch really hard.Fuuka is a newbie but she beats the established fighters because her fist "hurts". WTF?Then Einhart BTFOs them all in 1s (offscreen of course) making the whole thing utterly pointless
>>289819558I think she got two broken ribs in that last fight. Which is why they were using dampners in Vivid. Guess they forgot to turn them on.OK, in all seriousness, that part was dumb in Vivid. They had a field that would negate actual physical injuries, but also some fighters have attacks that bypass that? That's like "Swords are banned." "Well, I replaced my hands with actual words." "That's perfectly OK". WHAT?!
>>289819219I meant Exceeds isn't interesting so far. I like everything else from Nanoha.
Sleeveless bros where we AT
>>289819882I never read Vivid's manga, when did they drop the "life points"? I remember Vivid Strike not having them
>>289819799Vivio is super strong and talented, as a mage and a knight. Not in the ring. Thats kinda the point of Vivid, she is wasting her talents doing what she likes instead of what she is good at. Rinne and Fukka are simply better athletes.
>>289817634>>289817931>>289818029Fate is so perfect, bros.
>>289816730worthless series,nuke the franchise if its what they are gonna keep doing,disgusting
>>289819882It's very inconsistent. Rinne obliterates Miura's ribcage and breaks Vivio's ankle without too much effort, in an official match with limiters on, but then when they take them off for the unofficial match with Fuuka, her actual special move only knocks a teeth out.
>>289820145We don't see that in Vivid Strike. She is shown to have insane technique and skill despite being younger than most of her competitors, and her not being an "athlete" means nothing.
this is Force but with a girl instead of the boring guy
>>289819882>>289820124The tournament in vivid allowed magic and weapons while the one in strike didn't. They are essentially different sports with different rules so it makes sense the safety and scores would work different.
>>289820294the guy was better
>>289819265It couldn't get the OG VAs for RH and Bardche though..
>>289819219Nanoha walked so Symphogear could run. It has its failings but it's a masterpiece compared to the Frankenstein's monster of fucking garbage that Nanoha has become.
>>289820270There was an entire arc about it already, they didn't need to show it again. Vivio is a skilled fighter but because she has to be skilled to compensate for the fact she is punching like a retard instead of throwing nukes around.
Why the fuck were they wearing bodysuits in the transformation sequence? BD's better fucking fix this.
>>289820505Isn't symphogear in the same situation though? everyone finds most of symphogear to be shit and only likes one or two seasons
>>289820540Exceeds is a serious organization that does not tolerate naked child please understand
>>289820625People may disagree on which seasons are the best but only GX is truly shit.
>>289820383Let's not go that far
>>289820625It's more of a Strikers situation for the disliked seasons, they're not spin-off garbage like Vivid and Exceeds that are only Nanoha in name.
>>289820650I thought they worked for the UN
>>289820692And even then, GX has some of the stupidest hypest dumb shit in all the series and I can't hate it.
>>289820625>most of symphogear to be shitIt will never win any award for its writing, but god damn is it fun
>>289819928>baggy jacket>sleeveless under itAbsolutely cultured costume designer
>>289820316The tournament in Vivid allowed for Eraser-type attacks, when they were supposed to be "safe". Why the fuck?
>>289820692It's the weakest season definitely but that's more because it's a setup for AXZ
>>289820722The UN only tolerates naked child in their private islands, hopefully Nano and Fate visit them in the OVA!
>>289820692GX can't be considered shit because of Garrie and Carol, the later of which has the absolute best boss theme, ever! GENOCIDE.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XeVZC9hIzCs
>>289820873>It will never win any award for its writing, but god damn is it funDoesn't the same apply to Nanoha spin-offs though? except gunblaze ofc lmao
>>289820985Thats more of a Hayate thing
>>289821004Vivid is a gutted adaptation that stops midway through to get you to read the manga, Vivid Strike is alright and I can only imagine it got made because they saw how popular Symphogear's punchy action is and wanted some of those gibs
Has Nanoha really become so shit that anons prefer discussing Symphogear in the Nanoha threads? It has never been this Nanover Nanobros...
So, what was your favorite part of the episode? For me, it was when the knights finally had screen time off-screen
>>289821117Yes. The worst Symphogear season gets me more interested ten years later than this current Nanoha series
>>289821117This series is shit, that's why. They couldn't even get the transformations right. Freaking PRECURE has better transformations. Ironically, with more skin showing.
>>289821179Seeing Vita put a smile on my face.
>>289821179My favourite part is they’ve surely finished all the character introductions now and can move on to having things happen next ep, right?
Nanowho?
>>289821179Fate doing her cop routine is always cute I guess
>>289821179Shiina's midriff
>>289812180The lack of nudity/fanservice killed it, odd how the first 2 seasons (and the movies) where she's a loli had the most fanservice, but once she became an adult the fanservice was heavily toned down, Lmao
>>289818233>nanoha jobbing to shaow the edgehogThis sounds kino though
>>289821179I liked how the Wolkenritter were all unvoicedI liked how they keep showing explanations for the kpop girls' powers every time they use them like this was Boku no Hero AcademiaI liked how Nanoha and Fate did nothing to the kpop grills at all (seriously are they trying to sell an idol unit or something)And I liked how they can't even show naked hags anymore in transformation scenes (though to be fair I'm pretty sure they started censoring loli butts in Vivid Strike already)
So that edgelord's power is to make you naked? Imagine if she fought Fate. Fate would job as usual and end up completely naked on the floor with all her limbs dislocated unable to reactivate her barrier jacket...what a tragic fate that would be. I hope it doesn't happen and I hope that Nanoha doesn't try to shield the jobbing Fate and also ends up naked unable to move.
>>289816245After shit like Cyborg 009 Nemesis and the awful redesigns. Shaman King remake, Getter Arc and Grendizer U, being old doesn't guarantee shit
>>289820439They could, they didn't want to, because they wanted their device VAs to speak japanese. They probably just replaced them because they want to plug the new VAs.
>>289820994Adult Carol is also pure sexo. Don't @ me if you disagree.
>>289821117
>>289821486There were no loli in strike so there was no lolibutt to censor but we did get a fair amount of JC butt
>>289821373Shiina's sleeveless pits.
>>289820994I hadn't really paid attention to the lyrics of that song until now. Holy shit."The universe tilts, the Sun freezes""All that pulses with life, all creations who's hearts beat, shall be pushed off the stairs of salvation."When I'm drunk on insanity, then his gentle smile too will be obliterated by the song destroying the world."Carol wrote that song with her own blood.
>>289821486Don't forget how Towa's power was clearly written so she can asspull any power to be as strong as the writers need her to bePower absortion/copying without limits is always bullshit because the character can hunt whatever powers on and off-screen
>>289821703You are missing out on 90% of the plot if you don't pay attention to the lyrics
Which character do you want to see as a jpeg on screen for 5 seconds next episode? I hope Yuri and the detonation girls make an appearance, it could be something like at the start of the episode Shina narrating how they already killed all the progenitors and they even found Zero, and how it was an incredible fight were even Nanoha, Fate, and the knights were outmatched, only for the detonation girls to arrive and save the day. Then we get 20 minutes of Towa eating not McDonalds while texting Shiina and the episode ends.
Aside from the mandated Engrish pronunciation from the devices because the Elevens can't understand proper spoken English, I really don't like the sound design. Everything is so MUTED. Oh well, there will be another anime project after this first one.
>>289821748They talked about how Fate was asking about Shiina's sister this episode and being family oriented. Maybe Fate could get a teary reunion with her mom in one episode, told through a series of unvoiced stills, where she finally understands her mom. And Shiina could be tearing up on the sides at how beautiful it is despite knowing nothing about Fate or her past.
Reminder recent Seven Arcs projects>Mato Seihei no Slave S1>Hazure Waku no "Joutai Ijou Skill" de Saikyou ni Natta Ore ga Subete o Juurin Suru made (Failure Frame)They have become utter shit. Both shows already showed shitty fighting, shit CG and censor
>>289817981>But the action direction is so fucking bad that it all falls incredibly flat. It's complete garbage.If only this had the YuushaKuzu director. That guy knew how to spend two ramen cups worth of budget.
>>289821734Fair point.
>>289817864Shiina is voiced by Meteor of Princession. Guess King Records wanted to shill her VA. They invested 4 cours into it. One of the newbies from the OG princess trio needs to go big
>>289821924Princession was OK, but it was missing something. It was just Symphogear Lite. It didn't have that great of battles, the song were pretty good, the animation was decent. But the story was lame, the powers were standard, and the characters were pretty one dimensional. Also, zero fanservice, but that series was for a younger audience, so OK.
>>289821650>JCWasn't she JK? Definitely feels like a JK.Also, it established that lolis are worthless shit right away.
>>289821996Still better than this, much as it hurts me to say
>>289822017Oh, definitely. People were actually trying. This one seems like nobody gives a damn. The fuck was with all the goddamn still images? At least show them shaking hand, goddamn.
>>289822061shut the fuck up Aaron
>>289821885Looked up the director for Nanoha Exceeds and >same director as nu-Orphen and the adult Precure showsDude is carried by good staff that 7 Arcs clearly couldn't get. Nu-Orphen already showed how shit he is without said good staff. Otona Precure and Mirai Days were clearly carried by the animators Toei could contact
Bro, you deadass? The fuck out of here with this My Hero Academia power explanation.
>>289821996Were you watching the right show? Princession’s animation was bad but the story was good and powers were fun.
>>289822125Also, if you're gonna say "Physical burden is immense", then fucking SHOW IT. She was perfectly fine.
>>289822135I'm sorry, I don't mean to diss the show. It's just that compared to the hyper-hype-bullshit Sympho was doing....
>>289822125>Towa absorbed it in the pastAnd that's when my slow brain realized: They can make Towa do anything with the Gluttonny excuse. Shitty power to make her asspull whatever>>289822160It's inmense for the OG user. Towa probably has another power that nullifies the physical burden.
Princession's biggest achievement was Silver Link not breaking down the animation completely despite 4 cours with only 3 recaps episodes for pauseDidn't think SL could be this consistent even if it wasn't on a good level. Given how much worse their recent output was. Guess they were focusing on Princession
>>289822182>It's inmense for the OG user. Towa probably has another power that nullifies the physical burden.This is why I fucking hate power-absorption. You can just hadnwave anything. And if that's true, why even tell is about the burden in you're not going to show it? I hate these writers.
>>289822229You're on my side. Yes. Towa is asspull: the character>why even include itTry hard failed attempt to make Towa impressive by showing her using it with no problem, probably
>>289822223That's their first 4 cours job they couldn't mess up.And this is Nanoha EXGV thread please talke about EXGV.
>>289822229isn't it funny anon you can have one gorillion powers and they don't even burden each other or have conflicts among themsleves
>>289822182>They can make Towa do anything with the Gluttonny excuse. Shitty power to make her asspull whateverTo be fair, Rimuru doesn't pull shit out of nowhere. We actually see him absorb every power he has.
>>289822287>And this is Nanoha EXGV thread please talke about EXGV.Talk about what? How bad the writing is? How bad the transformation scenes were? How annoying the power copying is? How Fate did literally nothing? How they defeated the "uber powerful creature" offscreen? AGAIN?
>>289822061sir this is a wendys
>>289822287bro past thread the later thread was discussing about a sol cat show, this show will be remember as a bigger flop than vivid
>>289822406>How they defeated the "uber powerful creature" offscreen? AGAIN?I think its obvious by now those were just Macguffins, the real monsters will be people
>anons crying how bad the show is >still easily top 5 of the seasonDamn, nu-anime really is bad.
11 years ago. Didn't know how good we had it.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=doEJo2QA4MI
>>289821703Most of the characters' stories, motivations and personal progression are told through their songs.
>>289822660FINE! I'll watch all of Symphogear again!
>>289821885Speaking of, check out https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/147347726 if you haven't already.
>>289812384..May I see them? Or.. hear them talk?
>>289822736https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYU_eDMr4xE
>extremely dangerous to humanity progenitors THREE and FOUR are near that area!>It's just a big ass scorpion and some sort of vaguely draconic thing>They're literally just sitting there, in a small industrial site, doing absolutely nothing at all>They get killed off-screenThey're not trying. They're literally not even trying. The plot for this was written by AI. The image composition was made by AI. It has to have been. No humans could come up with slop this uninspired.It's Yuugure all over again.
>>289822635I was always of the opinion that Vivio's henshin is the best in the franchise. Great song, great animation, great direction, great storytelling. It tells you everything you need to know about Vivio, from her personality to her powers to her heritage.
>>289822736>>289822777They were literally in this week's episode but only Rein talks :(
>>289816730Wow that's terrible, also is she wearing a full-bodied black suit?
>>289820692The first season is the worst one, the second one is the best one, and the other three seasons are a varying degree of badly written but entertaining shit>>289821004No, every single part of Symphogear is worse than the worst Nanoha seasons (except this one, this one is unwatchable crap)
>>289816730The way the light clothes slide onto her look like shit. I'm not going to sugar coat it to protect some autists feelings in these threads: The way their clothes appear and disappear has been the same since Vivid Strike, we're now at worse levels of anti-fun censorship than ever seen before, and it's for something that is barely a Nanoha season.
>>289822061I was going to make some sneering reply to bikini schizo but I really just can't bring myself to do it. I guess there's still Dodge Dango for fanservice if Nanoha is going to be this way.
>>289822996Yani neko has lots of filthy fanservices too.
>>289822993I just don't have the energy, bikini schizo. Not today. This series has just been too much of a disappointment. It's not even an industry wide thing, this is 7arcs deciding to commit suicide. A literal kodomo show is showing up the one of the original loli fanservice magical girl show.
>muh fanservice Relax, it’s going to be in the blurays Did you forget the nude Nanoha and Fate merch exclusive to the Gamers chain?
>>289823029>It's not even an industry wide thing, this is 7arcs deciding to commit suicide.They're literally going to make money off this by just piggybacking off Nana and the Nanoha name.But I don't know how the fuck they can in their right mind do any of this. It feels like they just hired a bunch of 20y/o grads who got out of school last year and told them to 'make nanoha'.
>>289823073I think that's gamers only.
Ep4 didn't have that much going on, huh?|>>289822703>https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/147347726I wish I could speak Japanese.
>>289823012Yani Neko is too much unfunny shit for me to watch, dropped it long ago
>>289823166>I wish I could speak Japanese.Just feed the images into an AI of your choice if you want it translated. It's a story about Yashiro losing his favorite card. You can imagine what they're saying.
>>289823166>Ep4 didn't have that much going on, huh?|that wouldn't be much of a problem, the problem si just being bad
>>289823272I don't want to imagine, I want to know what the writer said themselves.
Was this tummy shot really necessary?
The show is currently C- at best but being reminded of the "I HATE THE ANTICHRIST" meme image makes me laugh.
tiny senpai
My favorite invasive species is the nutria, they're cute and friendly.
>>289823578visualize!
Has anyone raised the possibility of gyaru sex?
>>289822790well, they are basically the queen bees of the hive, their job is to breedthe thing to criticize is the lack of any protection they had, i guess maybe you could say that the diaboli hunters had dealt with them by the time exceeds arrived
>>289823095>They're literally going to make money off this Magilumiere is beating it, it's not exactly a money printer.
>>289823613I am conceptualizing.
>>289822329True. But he's an MC in a long running LNThe author can afford to show it. Here we aren't following Towa from the moment she got her powers and even skip Sheena because episode count, so there's lot of off-screen shit they can conveniently use to have her ass pull some power while the HeroAca text goes "Gluttony off-screen lol"
Claim your gacha girl
>>289822790Towa no Yuugure at least had some decent fights and production, even if everything else was a disaster. This not even that
>>289823687>diaboli hunters had dealt with themthey said there was invaders, but also killed them offscreen
>>289816730>waited 5 episodes for this
>>289816898
>>289822790I feel like they don't have to try because >>289823095They don't even care anymore, people will eat up the slop because Nana is in it.
>>289823771>Towa no Yuugure at least had some decent fights and productionIt had that in the first episode, and that was all. Everything else felt just as flat and awful as this has so far.
>>289821486Fate's hair was well past her knees then. Even Fate's rich hair length, overflowing with femininity, was toned down. That's a real shame since Fate's eyes and hair were what made Nanoha fall in love with her at first sight despite her electrocuting kittens and stuff.
>>289823687>Their job is to breedBut then how are they dangerous? Why didn't the Exceeds girls just blast them to death without bothering to remove the bystanders?> i guess maybe you could say that the diaboli hunters had dealt with them by the time exceeds arrivedThat's such a cop-out and you know it. Some text generation program just went 'big scorpion monster' and 'area is dangerous because big scorpion monster' and no further thought went into it.>>289823710Magilumiere is 1000% the better magical girl show this season, even if it's going through a bit of a dull arc, and it'll probably sell better.But they're going to make money off the merch and you know it.
>>289823721Actually they did have the time. Power absorption works best when there is a story behind all the absorbed powers. They could've easily had her powers come from all the kids she killed in that pointless flashback last episode or something.
>>289823712I am conceptualizing loli Hayate.
>>289821486SEX
>>289824059anon no she's crippled You wouldn't a katawa shoujo
omg she wants to see the cockpitshe wants all the controls explained to herNano-chan is CUUUTEEEsorry I don't know what came over me please understand.
>>289823029Which magical girl show has fanservice this season?
This anime might have been ok if it was released in 2019 as a generic revenge post apocalyptic mafia anime but not in 2026 with Nanoha title.Shiina is cute though
>>289824181It IS cute.>>289824226Precure, probably.
>>289823095Is this anime even profitable or is it straight up money laundering? It's like they haven't even watched Nanoha. Hell even Raising Heart doesn't speak the way she used to in all previous anime and movies
>>289824270Isn't it though? It's super cute. Nanoha is a good girl and it's adorable when she geeks out.
For a show called "Gun Blaze Vengeance" it's been really boring apart from episode 1
>>289824152Actually, Hayate is in the sweet spot were she has enough sensation left in her lower half to feel what you are doing but no strength in her legs to fight it.
>>289824181Only good thing this season. Adorable that she loves airplanes still despite being able to fly herself.Reminds me of one time I was watching Nanoha on my laptop during a long flight. There was an old German guy next to me, like 70 years old. He started watching the first episode with me and he seemed really into it but he really only cared about Uminari City. He loved watching Nanoha riding the bus, the city highway, the scenes at school and Japanese breakfast at the Takamachi house. He asked me to show the bus scene again like 3 times. He totally lost interest when the plot started happening, bless his heart.
>>289824418As shitty as this season is, they caught early Nanoha's dorky girly personality really well.>>289824426The name is pretty indicative of what it's about. Shiina uses a gun, she has fire powers, and she's been taking revenge against the creatures that killed her little sister.
The world building here makes zero sense:>alien life invading life>entire cities already have been devastated>yet people in a lot of places are living like normal>nothing was shown about governments preparing their military to fight against this shit>somehow the UN only sends in a couple of mahou shoujoNone of this makes any sense, fucking hell.
>>289823755Yuuna, of course. Who doesn't want twintail pitslut
>>289824226funny enough, Precure.
>>289824530>>alien life invading lifeHoly shit I had a stroke writing this, I meant>aliens invading earth
>>289824530Someone described it as 'Everything and the kitchen sink' writing. They want to include all of these world-destroying elements but also don't want to make it TOO alien from modern Tokyo for some reason
>>289824530Supposedly the initial waves... No, you're right, none of it makes any fucking sense.
>>289824487That German guy was probably thinking "This could have been the world if we had won".
>>289824270>>289824549Are these two retarded? Precure doesn't have fanservice
>>289813318I swear this series could have been an audio drama with how much time they spend talking.
>>289824530Feels like it was written by AI
>>289824152You would deny Hayate your love just because of her condition? Even if she just wants to make you feel good as thanks for taking care of her?
>>289823976>But then how are they dangerous? Why didn't the Exceeds girls just blast them to death without bothering to remove the bystanders?I thought they were worried about collateral damage while blasting the big monsters?Shiina especially seems like she ends up doing a lot of damage to her surroundings because of flames and all that.
>>289816270She really is just Nagase with a flamethrower.
>>289823721WE ARE IN EPISODE 5 WE HAD MORE THAN TIME TO SHOW IT
>>289824614Don't you ever say that about Precure again when you're posting from a Nu-noha thread. You are sleeping.
>>289816570Is it a running joke within the studio that they're going to kill every single progenitor off-screen? I wonder how they'll avoid showing Mana's death, since she's probably the original one.
>>289824614Has more than this series.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6ahilAszUc
>>289824662I want to cuddle Hayate and pamper her and have her cutely scold me for small transgressions, not sex her!
>>289824575>>289824586It was already jarring on episode 1 when:>here's a girl killing these aliens as part of a group (?)>here's how her neighborhood all like her>had her house invaded by a few aliens>nobody was close to help>suddenly destroyed buildings when 3 min ago it was a happy town>no organization she could go to look for helpI think this thing requires turning off the brain in an attempt to make it enjoyable.
>>289816597They do seem to be making the gacha gang's powers more complex purely so they don't get immediately stomped by EXCEEDS.
>>289824778I don't know how Precure managed to have a better Fate than the show that has Fate in it, but it sure fucking did it.
>>289824838I am now strongly considering watching Precure.
>>289824808Why not all of those?
>>289824685If only they had someone who could teleport people and objects, trap enemies in bounded fields, create defensive barriers or summon chains that can bind giant monsters...
>>289816730They'd better have a very good in-universe justification for her clothes no longer fully disappearing.
>>289824775>Mana is probably the original progenitorWhy would she be hunting diaboli if she's a progenitor?I figure she's actually a good guy trying to become strong enough to destroy Zero.
>>289824853Oh you think THAT'S arousing? Look at the absolute FEAST we got last week.
>>289824855aahhh so many cute legsyou're making me think bad thoughts
>>289824838I guess I'll look into precure. I'm so disappointed anons......
>>289824857Remember, magic is really weak on this world. Supposedly NanoFate isn't all that overpowered here.
>>289817062We'll find out next week. She's alright so far but I hope Sumipe goes all out when Mana meets the heroes later in the season.
>>289824964If only they had some way to store their magic or temporarily boost it...
>>289824530I think the setting is fine, they just aren't doing anything with it for now.People in apocalyptic settings often just try to live their normal lives as best they can.And in terms of firepower, the invaders seem to be pretty weak to magic, Nanoha could probably solo them all, but they needed Shiina's absorption to get rid of them for good.
>>289821453Based
>>289817603Those several dozen billion eggs have to come from somewhere.
>>289825028Belkan cartridge system puts severe strain on the user. It'd probably kill them on this world, and this is post-Detonation, so people are trying to get Nanoha to stop accidentally killing herself.
>>289825095If only they had a way to fight it off-planet....
>>289824857>>289824964They must be pretty powerful considering they killed 10 of these monsters offscreen last week and more this week
>>289825095Would be nice to have that explained, instead it seems cartridges have disappeared altogether. I don't even remember seeing them post.. were they even in the movies?
>>289824937Dammit I will watch your show. WAIT says that these feet are from>Meitantei Precure!and I'll just be writing that down.
i want to gun blaze vengeance exceeds inside fate's pussy
>>289825205>it seems cartridges have disappeared altogether.The current Raging Heart design has one, but the people behind this have no idea what the magazine is for.
>>289824964>magic is really weak on this worldMaybe I should have finished Detonation.
What Nanoha fans are saying about this series.
>>289825338>Maybe I should have finished Detonation.This is a completely different world. You could read the prequel manga and maybe Force.
>>289825320Why is Raising Heart talking in Japanese now?
>>289825390Who fucking knows. I've been told the devices talk more in this, so they changed it to japanese for the sake of the audience. Or something.
>>289825358Oh for fuck’s sake. No, enough.
>>289825320BIG SMILE :)
>>289825469To be fair, Nanoha has always been a 'multiverse' sorta deal.
>>2898253522004 (two thousand four) was 22 (twenty-two) fucking years ago. You could even voice a lead character in a Nanoha anime and not be alive when Nanoha aired! Imagine it.
>>289825095>so people are trying to get Nanoha to stop accidentally killing herself.Seems reasonable
>>289824708>naked>just a collarboneKill yourself Precuretard
>>289825463do you like the wider audience?
>>289825162No point in it by then. The TSAB is only on that planet to basically uplift them and recruit some more lunatics for the TSAB along the way.They're literally just there to train Shiina.
>>289821501>um, actually 'unlocks doors' also means I can one-shot barrier jackets, disarm opponents and dislocate limbs with ranged attacks>um, actually 'spider telepathy' also means I can turn invisible>um, actually my power is that I can pull any weapon or object that the plot requires out of my ass>um, actually I have any power the plot requires and I can absorb your attacksThey wouldn't have to keep pulling this bullshit if they just showed the magical girls fighting kaiju like they promised.
>>289825338You should because it has THE BEST GIRL EVER
>>289825657I don't think that intended audience can appreciate what Nanoha is supposed to be about.So making a Nanoha show with them in mind is, in my opinion, not particularly bright.
>>289825834This line should invoke pure dread in anyone in the vicinity. What an absolute waste.
>>289825626kek we don't even get collarbones anymore idiot >>289816730 this is one step from transforming into a burqa. She's literally not even naked at any point, but Precure actually are. We have a franchise where the magical girls who used to get naked don't get naked and the franchise that has the magical girls for little girls get naked. The autist then chooses to get mad at me like I am the one who turned his franchise into shit.
>>289825626>naked>just a collarboneI'd kill for a fate or nanoha collarbone at this point. or just a hint of pantsu.
>>289825887>She's literally not even naked at any pointCorrect>but Precure actually are.And you can't see anything so it isn't any different, stop being retarded
>>289825914This hank hill unitard ass shot is all you're gonna get.
>>289825826>super long hair LeviLooks like if Rein fused with Fate and turned her hair blue (I'm not complaining)
>>289825826blue raspberry Fate
>>289825887IMAGINE being Erio. Imagine.
>>289825942>And you can't see anything so it isn't any different,>Literally disappearing clothes So why is this autistic retard getting mad at me? I'm just posting the truth: Precure are getting naked while Nanoha is in a full-body latex suit. "And you can't see anything so it isn't any different" like what a retarded fucking autistic answer. Like there isn't any difference between being naked and not being naked. Are you actually some shitheel like bikini schizo?
>>289825887>>289826007oh boy here we go againwell we had 300 posts without you at least
>>289826029>Uhhh shit he figured out that I'm the autistic shitposter time to derail the thread!!!I just don't get what your game is. I told you earlier >>289822943 I'm not going to sugar coat it to protect your feelings because you threaten to destroy the thread when you get offended: This season is censored and it sucks. Shit like Dodgeball Danko has full on loli pantsu and this is our ass queen of the franchise: >>289825961 with the hank hill ass.
>>289826029Are we talking about nipples again?
>>289823976Can't believe they fucked up Nanoha so badly that she's getting beaten by a JC Staff show that just had the girls standing around in a room for the last three episodes.
>>289826082I LOVE FATE'S BIG LONG HAIRTHE BIG LONG HAIR IS THE BEST PART WHY DID THEY CUT HER HAIR >>289825961 SHE NEEDS CURTAINS OF BLONDE HAIR
>>289824495But most of the time, she's been talking and going on dates with her new girlfriend.
>>289826002I'm imaginin' I'm imaginin' a bunch. That doujin in her dorm room is absolute diamonds
>>289826007You are being disingenuous, you say Precure has fanservice and a naked transformation, but you can't see anything, so it isn't any different from not being naked. Unless you are a retard who gets turned on by ankles then this isn't fanservice
>>289826094>anon sees Fate's bare loli nipples>gushes over her long, luxurious hairI respect and admire it so much!>>289826150I might need a hint this sounds excellent
>>289824530The UN didn't even send in their own magical girls. They did almost nothing until a bunch of them showed up from another universe or whatever.
>>289826181The UN doesn't have magical girls. This world doesn't have magic.
>>289825983I always thought Levi would be a sassy/smug Fate with all the same sexy transformation as >>289826082 but smug in how much she knows she's sexy.
>>289826163Why did this retard reply twice to me? Is he fucking lost? >You are being disingenuousHe's also projecting heavily, too. He looks at a picture of a naked girl and says "This is the same as basically being in a combat burqa" because the camera cuts off showing her nipples. Fuck off, retard. You're the same dipshit saying this show didn't have fanservice the other day, aren't you?
>>289826242Instead she's a TOTAL DORK
>>289826181>The UN didn't even send in their own magical girlsDoes the UN even have magical girls?
>>289826167>I might need a hint this sounds excellentColorful Nanoha
>>289816730how did symphogear do it bros?
>>289825676No, training Shiina is a sidequest in Hayate's pet project. It is not how the TSAB does things.
>>289826332Presumably not, but I'm saying they did even less than the other anon suggested.
>>289826336Kaneko actually cared about what he was making.
>>289826306Dorky cat brain, please understand.
>>289826362>It is not how the TSAB does things.There's not any TSAB level stuff going on here. They're training the locals to deal with their own threats. Shiina is a local hero, perfect for such a role.Once they get their shit sorted and advance a bit more, they'll get absorbed under the TSAB's wings.
>>289812180No yuri killed it
>>289826387>cat brainI will give Levi treats and lap pats.
I'll be honest Shiina deserved her own anime
>>289821117I think the first sign that it was over was that they tried to shill Vivid Strike as "look! These lolis fight!" at the height of Prisma Illya, which was "look! These lolis fight! And french one another and rub their nipples together."
>>289826240They have entire warehouses full of little girls with super powers.
>>289826427She needs a good place to groom, too
>>289826264I didn't reply to you twice retard, the other reply was a different guy>because the camera cuts off showing her nipplesThis is the disingenuous part, you think it is doing that, while in reality you literally cannot see anything aside from the collarbone, you are acting as if it has actual nudity when it doesn't because you can't see anything>You're the same dipshit saying this show didn't have fanservice the other day, aren't you?I don't remember ever talking to you before, so I'm not
New Nanoha being shit doesn't suddenly make Precure not shit.
>>289826528That's the TSAB. The UN is just a bunch of politicians on this world.
>>289826528I'm not sure what Umbrella is doing is related to what the UN is doing
>>289826542brushy brushy brushy!
>>289826336Are you conscious that even the latest Symphogear entry is already 7 years old, no? Nanoha was still showing naked girls in transformations around that time
>>289826552>he thinks I'm reading all that shit.Good one!
>>289826528>entire warehouses full of little girls with super powersCan one purchase one of these little girls? Just asking.
We can just call Green's organization Umbrella, right? It's just Umbrella. They're just grafting BOWs onto people. I'm pretty sure this was the plot to one of the co-op games.
>>289826596I accept your concession
>>289826402TSAB involvement is the reason they are there. Subcontracting the locals is Hayate's idea, it is not standard procedure.
Fuck Vivio
>>289826624I already accepted yours. Too late. Gonna write another block of pissing and whining about it?
Sleepy Feito :D
>>289826629Anon, no!
>>289826629She wishes
>>289826676even this looks lazy, did they really not have the budget to make the blanket splay out? They would probably be sharing blankets
they should at least give us fanservice if there is no actions..
Doooooooorks!
>>289826676Imagine touching a seeping Fay-chan
>>289826629don't mind if I do
>>289826686This was so sad. Being there when it happened in Vivid was a trip, too. Vivio lost SO HARD, the second most cucked Belkan in history (first place still goes to Olivie)
>>289826727poking eepy Fay-chan's cheeks
>>289824937How the FUCK do they keep getting away with this? Last season did the same thing. Really tame for the first 2 "cute" cures, then went all in for the next 2 "cool" cures.
>>289826652>I already accepted yoursToo late, you were the one who didn't bother to keep replying>Gonna write another block of pissing and whining about it?Why are you projecting now?
>>289826754All the competition killed itself. We used to just find this quaint and satisfying if you really put your goggles on, but now it's all that's left.
>>289817634the cape is rule of cool
>>289826764>Too late, you were the one who didn't bother to keep replyingYou're acting as if autistically spamming retardation to attempt to get the "last word" is some kind of merit. It's not. You're still replying, and idk why, you self-destructed when you tried to imply a naked transformation was the same as a fully clothed one.
>>289825095>Belkan cartridge system puts severe strain on the user.Boy, sure would have liked that explained on screen. Also, it's not like they were firing that shit up like it's expiring soon in A's or StrikerS with no ill effects. Hell, Nanoha in StrikerS went through two fucking cartridges of those things for one attack. Epic attack though. "You're in my line of fire". "Huh? You can't even see me". "I said what I said."
>>289826754Getting away with what? It's just a some feet, do you get turned on by ankles or something?
is this new anime good NanohaUncs?wondering if I should just start watching it weekly on top of watching the OG as I am already
>>289826807What's funny is that they still used cartridges in A's and StrikerS, it's not like it went away. It was just a 'sometimes thing'
>>289826805>autistically spamming retardationkek, he's still projecting
Is it just me or is this clearly one of those shows that announces a gacha game project right after the show finishes airing?Maybe I just have ptsd from the last time they tried making a nanoha adjacent gacha game, but half the characters in this show have no reason to exist within the script
>>289826809First off, maybe. Second off.... it's still way more skin then was shown in this... a supposedly Nanoha anime. That's shameful.
>>289826731It is hard to top having no arms and no womb.
>>289826809Bro we don't get feet in Nanoha. It's not just feet, her outfit crawls up her naked leg.
>>289826826No, I did the same thing as you, I rewatched the old shows while waiting for this one, and this show is below everything that came before
>>289826837>half the characters in this show have no reason to exist within the scriptsounds like strikers
How are Japanese fans feeling about Exceeds so far? I see a lot of Nanoha posts and fanart about it on X and pixiv, so I can't imagine they're as angry about as anons in this thread.
>>289826873wrong, StrikerS used every single character of their bloated cast, this show isn't even doing that
>>289826826Fuck no>>289826837What's funny is you say that while Nanoha was ALREADY dragged out into multiple Gacha games as cameo bait. Even the last 7arcs gacha games. Name some crap Gacha that shut down the last few years, Nanoha has been in it.
>>289826885It's kind of the same thing here if the last 2chan thread I saw was any indication >>289826854Olivie had no arms and no womb but Vivio has no game.
>>2898269302chan is filled with trolls and shitposters.
>>28982688590% of Japanese people will always be polite on social media like twitter regardless of what they think because that's just how they run their society
>>289826888dunno, after the numbers rain hell on the headquarters they started literally handing out pity wins to the guys not in focus just to pretend they did something
>>289826832>it's another "I got offended so the thing you said I'm doing, you must be doing" Retard. lol. Come up with your own arguments and stop just stealing mine. This is why you're losing.
>>289826626I think you're wrong. There's no TSAB-jurisdiction crimes going on.
>>289826873Nah, bro. As bloated as that cast was, it was all used for something, even if just to make Subaru look awesome by going berserk. Which.... to be honest, was a really cool scene.
>>289826997Subaru going berserk made up for almost all of the training episodes of her and Teana failing.
>>289826962Hardcore Japanese fans tend to speak their mind when they're anonymous. They're only polite when people actually know who they are or they have an image to keep up.
>>289826997I literally watched for subaru so you don't have to sell her to me, but I did feel a lot of the cast became glorified cameos
>>289826984I already gave my arguments, you decided to stop arguing by saying "not reading all that" as if you truly were a retard, so I accepted your concession. What else is there to argue when the other party decided to stop trying?
>>289827033>I already gave my arguments,You said the most retarded thing in the thread and then threw a fit lol
>>289827055You said that Precure had fanservice, then didn't provide any proof that there's fanservice, your argument is not even based on reality
>>289826901>What's funny is you say that while Nanoha was ALREADY dragged out into multiple Gacha games as cameo bait. Even the last 7arcs gacha games. Name some crap Gacha that shut down the last few years, Nanoha has been in it.I mean I don't know how many people here remember this but the guys behind Nanoha literally did a whole official spinoff gacha game 3 years ago or some shit about random ass girls, and then when it generated zero fucking money they panicked and brought out the Nanoha content patch a few months before the game shut down.If I remember correctly they even did some weird shit where the entire opening chapter of the game was changed to be about Nanoha or something, going by memory of random articles I saw here.This show weirdly feels like at second attempt at that
>>289826997I adored Subaru. She was so cute. And acted like a puppy.
>>289827098It does and there's proof. >>289824937 >>289824838 >>289824708 You lose again bikini schizo and I accept your concession.
>>289827120They didn't do just one, there were MULTIPLE of these. Several games got their turn on the Nanoha merry-go-round before shutting down.
So I haven't actually watched Exceeds because I want to rewatch the entire Nanoha franchise first, but what's the problem you guys have with it so far? Is it just a boring show than jangles nostalgia keys in your face to keep your attention like Cardcaptor Sakura: Clear Card?
>>289827145I'm not bikinischizo, and I've said it multiple times, unless you're an arab then ankles aren't fanservice, stop being retarded
>>289827098Well, it does. This season they're going all-in on it. Just look at this transparent dress. It's fucking baffling.
>>289826997Say what you will about StrikerS, but this was actually peak. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_qAcTR_lnU
>>289826873One of the most wacked takes I keep reading about Strikers is that ANYTHING was filler or unnecessary. There are plenty of ways the show could've been better, but it was incredibly fast-paced and tightly written - much more so than seasons 1 and 2. There was only the budget for 13 episodes, but they stretched the budget and shoved 52 episodes worth of story into 26. It's blink and you miss it where really important details will only be mentioned ONCE. Everything in it is interconnected with the plot and various character arcs so that nothing is superfluous. Even the randomest nigga like Vice the helicopter pilot ends up resolving someone's character arc.The show can be so overwhelming that it's hard to remember everything and on your first viewing you won't have the context to understand everything.
>>289827272When her eyes turned golden I was actually shook.
>>289827211Oh okay, other schizo who shares tons of similarities and mental illnesses with bikini schizo, happy?> unless you're an arab then ankles aren't fanserviceOr a 7arcs animator >>289825961 >>289816730 you don't even get ankles or collarbones anymore. You don't even get cleavage, throw more stones in that glass house. You lost.
Might get really drunk and binge-watch 12 hours of StrikerS.
>>289827199Most of the Clear Card manga I'd say is better than what we're getting with this series so far. The Clear Card anime is trash though, and the Clear Card manga lost me near the end. But on top of just being boring (or maybe it's a component of it) it just doesn't feel like Nanoha.
>>289827295Gun Blaze Vengeance is kind of like strikers only there's no fanservice or budget to pad the show out. It's just the aimless filler. What I don't understand is why anyone would willingly do this to their own franchise. If nothing else, have a story that isn't mostly filler. We're five episodes in and the title character of the show got her first transformation on screen. Think about it this way, we had multiple boss monsters destroyed off-screen but have spent most of the last 5 episodes having flashbacks to tragic childhoods.
>>289826807>Boy, sure would have liked that explained on screen.I vaguely remember it being shown on-screen Maybe I'm misremembering.
>>289827396They said magic wasn't as effective but this is an even BIGGER argument for USING the cartridges since those are supposed to be compressed magic energy.
>>289827297You are acting as if Precure has a fanservice for showing some feet, you are like this guy >>289819928 who is also mentally retarded for getting turned on by an arm, both aren't fanservice >shares tons of similarities and mental illnesses with bikini schizoI'm not posting edited pictures in paint about girls in bikini to edit out their swimsuits, or blaming Japanese PMs or talking about bikinis at all, so I'm nothing like him>You don't even get cleavage, throw more stones in that glass houseI didn't say we get those though, I'm saying Precure has no fanservice, that Nanoha transformation scene is a disgrace, of course, but that isn't relevant to whether Precure has fanservice or not
>>289827199>but what's the problem you guys have with it so farRead the previous threads, but;It's dull. Everything about it is dull. The action, the VA delivery, the scenes, the direction, the music, the SFX, the VFX, the characters, the art, you name it. It's just completely flat.
>>289827410see >>289825095
>>289827414I read it this time, and it's all this cope to say "It doesn't count when it makes me look stupid".
>>289827414>both aren't fanserviceSays you.
>>289827414You don't get to decide what "Fanservice" is. When they are showing naked characters on screen, that's fanservice, if they're focusing on bare feet, ankles, knees, whatever- That's fanservice. Fanservice is literally in the name, it's service for the fans.
>>289827474It doesn't count because it isn't fanservice, again feet aren't fanservice, it's not even actually fetishizing them, it's just showing them for a second
>>289827505>It doesn't count because it isn't fanserviceWhy not>Because I said soAgain all this cope to say "It doesn't count when it makes me look stupid"
>>289819096>In the most recent manga chapterThere's a manga? I thought it was only the Firi one.
If it's a part of Nanoha's exposed body it is service for me.
>>289827546That's why they need to quit hiding it
>>289827426>the VA deliverSo Yukari Tamura and Nana Mizuki's performances are worse in this series than they were 8 years ago?
>>289827546For me, it's her very long adult side ponytail
The best part about new Nanoha releases is being reminded of the ass worship doujin.
>>289827520You haven't provided any piece of fanservice, so I doubt that it's cope
>>289827392When it comes to Strikers, I also wish the enemies were more interesting, but with how information dense it already is I literally don't know how they could fit another story arc in it. I think the lame robots are a result of time constraints. Maybe a good solution would've been to expand the combat cyborg situation to partly fill their role. However as a military story rather than a superhero story, a much larger number of enemies was needed no matter what so not all of them could've been cool like Fate, Precia, Guardian Knights, Book of Darkness, etc.I'm not defending Gun Blaze at all. We'll see where it goes but so far I'm not impressed. Even going from the first episode which was kind of OK with the fire loli, the possibilities involved in absorbing one's little sister or turning into an alien demon are not being explored at all.The nature of these aliens/diaboli are so far uninteresting and I see no such justification for it.When I first watched Strikers I was perhaps a little surprise that Nanoha decided to be a combat instructor, but after that I did enjoy the training arc a lot. It is by no means filler. You see how Nanoha grew up, how she relates to people and society, and what she does in her chosen life's work. It can imagine a fan of season 1 or 2 who doesn't care of that, but I think if you're a fan of Nanoha *the character* there's no way you will call that a waste of screen time.
>>289827580they have like 8 minutes of screen time in 5 episodes bro
What is it with Yukari Tamura starring in mediocre sequels? First Higurashi Gou/Sotsu and now this.
>>289826807>>289827410I went back to look at A's and the movie, it says specifically that it requires a strong device and a talented mage to control the power, or it just explodes. Apparently the whole 'strain' thing is from the DVD booklet for the A's movie.So, either way, it wouldn't work well on this world, since you need magic (control) to keep the cartridge system from blowing up in your face.
>>289827580Nanoha sounds a bit different, Yukarin has lost her edge a bit. Nana's still good as ever.But Nanofate barely get any lines.
>>289827666Is that the reason why did have Yukarin sing the ed like she usually did?
>>289826306>>289826242is this a player 2 fate
>>289827690No, that's because this entire project is intended to plug the I'm Enterprise VAs. Nobody cares about Yurakin and Nana in this project.
>>289827710Nana still sings the op though.
>>289827645I fail to see why or how having less magic in the air would affect their magic control. They would be less powerful maybe but not less efficient.
>>289827505Motherfucker, who appointed you judge of fanservice? "It's not fanservice!". For you, maybe. For me, I love feet. Detailed bare feet are fanservice for me. Sucks for you though.
>>289821453She cute
>>289827701Yes and like most P2 skins she's just as good as P1.
>>289827701Yes.
>>289826306>Killing people is... le bad?!?And yet I love this character somehow.
>>289827546She looks so fucking fine in her long skirt and the bodysuit that covers almost everything. Honestly, I've always loved that. But that makes it even more special when she takes it off.I'll say it now, a lot of the fan service from the old seasons is not that heavy. Like there's nothing overtly sexual, it's just casual nudity and panty shots, but most of all the tasteful designs and the girl's bodies are just drawn very beautifully. There is eroticism everywhere in their animation. There is eroticism in the way Fate's hair is undone and tied up again when she transforms.Now, I'm not here to advocate getting rid of the nipples, I love the nudity as much as anyone, but much of the eroticism and fan service from old seasons could shown in the modern "censored" era because showing nipples and panties was far from what made the characters so consistently attractive.
>>289827639They should have expanded on Jail's backstory a lot more. All we got was some lines of him being created in a similar way to Fate, but going our of control. Motherfucker didn't even get a flashback episode.
>>289827739Imagine trying to fly an airplane through thin atmosphere with pockets of total vacuum.Sure, momentum will keep you going, and if you're lucky there's some air in jet engine to keep propelling you, but it's gonna make everything stutter and hiccup and keeping control is gonna be real tough....Maybe comparing it to traction in a car would be better.
>>289827799>There is eroticism everywhere in their animation.This guy gets it.
>>289827808Well since he had a flash forward episode, getting a flashback as well would be pretty lush.
>>289827533The Exceeds manga recently (the last 2 or 3 chapters) shifted to being about the setting the anime is using. If the stuff before that doesn't come back then I don't see the point of having it in the manga. They could have used those chapters to better flesh out this setting so they didn't have to make the anime so slow and boring.
Fate-chan's ass.
>>289827808Jim Tagiatelli was made to be the ultimate lost logia researcher. So this guy spends his life researching ancient WMDs, reverse-engineering them, rebuilding them, funded by local gov / mil bigwigs. But those bigwigs are assholes, as they always are. And he figures, he's got tech nobody else can even approach. Why not become the bigwig himself? That way he has more budget for his research. Imagine the progress he could make!It makes total sense.
>>289827867DO NOT LOOK
>nanofate will die in my lifetimeso sad to see it
>>289827639nta, I think Nanoha's character arc in StrikerS is the best character arc she had in the entire franchise, I honestly loved it and it's one of the reasons of why I think StrikerS is the best season
>>289827199One of the problems is that it doesn't put in enough effort to jangle nostalgia keys. It just points to them sitting on a table occasionally. I don't think they've actually animated the Wolkenritter yet, just stuck them on screen as jpegs. There's an awful lot of nothing happening every week. The characters just talk motionlessly for 90% of the episode then the remaining 10% is a half-assed action scene. The main characters have killed twelve giant, supposedly hard to defeat kaiju so far, with the Wolkenritter killing a bunch more overseas. But you wouldn't know that unless someone mentioned it because they haven't shown a single frame of them fighting a kaiju.The supposed antagonist/rival group doesn't work because we already know they're not remotely evil and their actions are totally justified. They don't dislike the heroes. They just don't trust the government and had a couple of quickly resolved misunderstandings. But, because we've only got two villain characters and an endless supply of generic disposable monsters, the Diaboli Slayers and EXCEEDS are being made to fight anyway. The writers realised too late that EXCEEDS are way too strong so they gave the Diaboli Slayers a bunch of asspull powers to force a draw.Next week is going to be a nothing episode as well, because it's Mana's backstory.
>>289827920>, I think Nanoha's character arc in StrikerS is the best character arc she had in the entire franchiseThat's because Nanoha doesn't really have a character arc outside of that and the first 3 episode of season 1. She's supposed to be a static anchor character.
>>289827867
>>289822635>Used half the transformation time to have the loli striptease usUhhhhh.... based?
>>289827941>they gave the Diaboli Slayers a bunch of asspull powers to force a draw.I do kinda wonder if that black orb laser Towa does would hurt Nanoha.Also; no move call-outs. Where's my Deagle Doom Demiblast or whatever stupid shit Shiina wants to yell?Who the fuck is the target audience for this?
>>289827941>The characters just talk motionlessly for 90% of the episode then the remaining 10% is a half-assed action scene.That sounds an awful like the previous seasons of Tensura when you put it that way.
>>289827919Tummy overloadbut where is Fay-chan's tummy?
>>289827994Just chillin on a light postAs all cool girls do
>>289827963There's the whole balancing the superhero life with normal life stuff, there's her progress with Fate and the rest of her new friends and extended family. Later she has the whole "I should probably stop dying" thing going on. She's an anchor, sure, but she's got progress.
>>289827809It would be real tough for me to do it but I'd assume the best pilot in the planet to be capable enough to fly safely even in hazardous conditions.Nanoha is a generational talent, Fate was literally built different and Hayate is an extinction event that comes with its own army. Having an arbitrary amount of less magic is not going to make a difference.
>>289827963Static from 9 years old? I think not.A character can be static in one story and change in another. For such a young character especially, you would automatically expect some development as life changes happen.I've been really wanting to see how Hayate and Fate engage with the beginnings of their adult lives too.I've watched these shows all like at least 20 times as well as reading the Vivid manga and the PSP games, but I learned the manga vesions of the TV shows and movies have additional lore in this period, so I need to check them out now. I don't now how much there actually is.
>>289828069I'm trying to justify the extremely stupid design choices by the team and you're making it real hard.There's not enough stable magic to keep the cartridges from behaving unexpectedly and thus blowing up the devices. Or something.
>>289828011But the meetings in Tensura are actually fun
>>289828037I like how Nanoha has her own spell pointed at her and she goes, "Come on guys, it's not THAT strong." while they're running to Africa for dear life.
>>289828130Sure, but they're low budget and barely animated as well.
>>289828139Nanoha:>Come on guys, it's not THAT strongFate:>oh god oh Christ RUN
>>289828139I didn't like ViVid but the dual Starlight Breaker scene and the mirrored transformation sequence scene were pretty cool.
>>289827799Compare this shot from StrikerS:
>>289828241To this one from Exceeds.It's intentional. Intentionally soulless and unsexy. God knows why.
>>289828008If that's an anti-Diaboli/alien move it might be weak against Nanoha. Since its ability to copy the enemies is presumably biological in nature, I don't see how it could copy non-biological abilities. Even the ability to generate mana would presumably be useless without knowledge of magic or an intelligent device unless there was also an innate mana conversion affinity. Although it seems to be going this way, I'm hoping this season isn't going to be so shounenshit that the rules describing Diaboli powers arbitrarily 'just work' on a conceptual level.That is a valid reason why Command Phrases wouldn't be needed; it's a different system.>>289828241Some of those scenes with episode 2 were genuinely very cute, but overall, I'd say the older seasons were drawn with much more love than exceeds.
>Towa just knows what magic is and accepts it is different from Diaboli powers without questionI guess her information network of uhhhh four other unemployed lesbians is just that good?
>>289828159At least Tensura has enough collarbone fanservice to keep the story visually engaging
Where are the centipedes?
>>289828312IN MY VAGINA
>>289827941>with the Wolkenritter killing a bunch more overseasThey talked up MC girl like she was the key to everything and could save the world, meanwhile the Wolkenritter are kicking all the ass just fine without her.
>>289828329Actually exactly as likely as I'd think.
>>289812180This shits kinda boring...
>>289827701This is a Fate!Molester also a Fate!Cat
>>289828616I will hope and cope for good stuff until the very last episode.
>>289827837StrikerS designs were so ass. Jesus.
>>289828734I liked them. >>289817827 is a good Nanoha design.
Who? I know but still, Fate is already short enough...
>>289828734Do you have a reason besides just them being adults? Strikers did have a strange look to it but I don't think it's the designs I had a problem with. I've always thought all Nanoha designs looked strange though.
I think Fate's casual hairstyle in StrikerS is probably her best.It's so long and voluminous...
>>289828241I am distracted by Nanoha's 19 year old thighs.
It would be cool if the primordial beings were super strong monsters, instead of common fodders.
I like Fate's minimal armor.
>>289828800Not the same guy, but for me, even though I know it's the original design, I don't like Nanoha's side ponytail at all. And Fate's twin-tails look weird on her as an adult.
>>289828878Tight as fuck.
Hop in anon we going sexo
>>289828892
>>289828876Progenitors*
>>289828876If you're willing to play an obscure kusoge, Defender on Xbox/Gamecube/PS2 (in order of version preference) did a better version of the alien bug invasion story.
Perhaps we judged StrikerS too harshly...
I'm sure things will get better after episode... 9.
>>289828952We did. We truly did. I have StrikerS a lot of shit, but by God, it was trying. It didn't skimp on the fanservice either. And while the training arc was, well.... shitty, the payoff with Nanoha-sensei was pretty cool.
>>289828952Looking back, yeah
>>289828952StrikerS was a masterpiece compared to this slop.
>>289828952I'm so fucking sorry bros.
>>289828892Why did Precia let her daugter dress like this
>>289829063Trick question, she wouldn't.
>>289829063Dunno, but that's not Precia's daughter.
>>289829063She wouldn't. That's Fate though. Precia used to use her for BDSM, and had her dress accordingly.
>>289828936the smoothest magical girl >>289829063wew
>>289824279Behold, the slop is already being sold.https://x.com/lyricalstore/status/2083749638700425320
>>289829063Is Precia a sadist?!
>>289829183>whips Fate to pieces Gee, who can tell?
>>289829183Nah, she just misses her daughter.
Look at her O_O face lmao
I just need 1 long scene where Nanoha is just styling 1v2 vs the two main villains and I will give Exceeds all the flowers.
Shiina meets Towaumm...Nanoha meets the hebe combiFate meets the gyaru because she's the most Signum-like of the threeLet's see if I'm right
>>289829154If it's Shiina's slop, my wallet is open.>you can buy fate's hatAt least there's one thing I'd consider if I was in Japan.
I swear to God this right-handed Nanoha bullshit is pissing me off.She'd better whip out some southpaw destruction in the final fight. It's like they're mocking me, specifically.
>>289828734You're gay
Censoredslop
>>289829317She's just training her new cyborg arm to be ambi, anon. Surely we'll get a lefty SLB.
Maybe this is a hot take, but I think it's impossible for Nanoha to not look cool. Yes, even the designs you think suck.
>>289829183It's a mystery.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ol-gkPEoM7c&pp=ygUQcHJlY2lhIHdoaXAgZmF0ZQ%3D%3D
I do love that they have different sound effects for their flying.
>>289828878>>289828892>>289828936they just need to squeeze fate's boobs/butt more
>>289829409Nanoha will always look cool because she's a gundam + magical girlIt's all the other characters who look bad.
>>289829409I think the current design is a bit boring, but she still looks cute.
>>289829554SHE IS GUNDAM
>>289829571>bare shoulders>smug smile >man shouting SEEEEEXXXX
Also I'm going to say something else nontroversialPanties aren't even inappropriate, they're just regular underwear for women. Everything is an overreaction to a culture war Japan barely understands but feels it has to be a part of.
>blocks vision>jams commswell that's not FUCKING BROKEN or anything
>>289829615*blasts the whole area with Starlight breaker*
>>289829593Adult Nanoha seggs.
>>289829615I thought it was stupid that this was on-screen and the false jappy Raising Heart then explains it again for all the people that have this on their second monitor.
Armor purge!Tummy reveal!
>>289829735>>289829215It's sad that the characters are cute but the anime doesn't really have much going on
>>289829753A lot is going on, actually.. They're just not showing you any of it.
JIIIIIIIIIII
>>289829615Including telepathy which she should have no way of knowing even exists lmao
She's so unbearably cool guys. I can hardly stand to behold her.
>>289829997Literally the coolest magical girl.Sploosh.
oh NOW she's left-handed. I am cautiously, tentatively optimistic.
So sad...
Cool magical girls are for kissing!
>>2898300522005-ass wallpaperI want to go back
>>289830052the face looks very Takeuchi. Fate in Fate when?
>>289830084>Who are you?>I'm you but blonde.
I want to go back in time and kill my younger self immediately after A's ended because art as a whole peaked with Christmas Eve.
>>289830084Soon.
>Find Nanoha in orbit, half her body ripped to shreds>Pour everything you can into her to keep her alive>She regains consciousness and starts rambling about how she was dreamingI cannot imagine how fucking terrified Fate must've been at this moment.
STOP loving evil women!
>not even getting hot evil woman pussy for his troubleSad!
>censored transformation scenemodern anime is grim
>>289829581Real
Signum jobbed to gyaru this episode
>>289830936>Signum jobbedNext you're going to tell me the sun rose this morning.