Welcome back, everyoneToday, we finish up the Sanctuary arcPrevious:https://desuarchive.org/a/thread/289518886/https://desuarchive.org/a/thread/289543551/https://desuarchive.org/a/thread/289567418/>>289592114>>289616544>> 289642516>> 289674137>> 289699612>> 289724870>>289750649>>289778069>>289801735
let's go! end of the Sanctuary arc! (I think)
>>289826436https://boards.4chan.org/a/thread/289813685/its-801-yaoi-day#bottomCheck the catalog, you retard.
>>289826692Shakabros
>>289826692ikki wasn't it you who started the "moves won't work on a knight twice" thing
>>289827190Ah, but the genius of it is that it hasn't worked once yet
>>289827171What a weird simileDoesn't compare to Winter Catfish Guy but is still weird
>>289827260Aphrodite, I get that it's your thing, but you don't have to have a rose on your mouth literally all the time
>>289827201Coolest move of all time
>>289826473Did he get fat?
>>289827201In the anime, Saga never uses Galaxian Explosion in this fightThen, in the Poseidon arc, Ikki still recognizes it when Kanon uses it
>>289827260So thats why Shaka is the man closest to god, the virgo and gemini houses are closer
>>289826785>Phantom Demon Attack? Oh yeah?>Well how about my SUPER Phantom Demon Attack?! Checkmate atheist!Is he 10?
>>289827472It's what he used to control Aioria
Also, I just noticed, but I'm pretty sure this volume is the first time we've had the Holy War be mentioned
>>289827506Than what happen to the sagitarius cloth? Do they choose a new Knight for It?
>>289827530Also the first time it's been mentioned that Athena reincarnates for a specific purpose and not just to protect the Earth in general
>>289827564Well, the real Pope was Aries and Mu's the current Aries, so yeah
>>289827506He could have picked an original name then.
>>289827558>"Huh, and there seems to be an extra star right next to the Big Dipper, wonder what that's about"
You know? People shit talk Seiya for being "plain" but he isn't any more plain than the others. Never really understood it. He actually had more going on for his character than the rest did earlier on.
By the way, was it ever explained how the Pope lived for more than 250 years?Do Muvians just live long?
>>289827095>>289827117I love Saga acknowledging the power of Ikki's psychic attacks.
>>289827760MORRA SEIYA SEU VIADINHO
>>289827489Oh. I thought Roshi had an injury with a cool backstory instead.>>289827760The only characters who aren't plain are Ikki and maybe Shaina.
>>289827925Hey, if this bothers you, Saga, then don't read Erza vs Kyouka in Fairy Tail
>>289827851But aren't you true saints too?Or is it that she *must* be saved by the "weakest" saints to make the trial more challenging?
>>289827925What is the point of taking people senses If the 6th one makes up for all of them?
>>289828081>Can destroy planets and stars>Hasnt destroyed a brick house
>>289828141I don't think anyone so far has been literal planet buster tier. They could be if light speed translated to kinetic force but I guess it doesn't.
>>289827564They choose a new knight.
>>289828031Where did his head go?
>>289827769His clan is long lived but he might have received the same blessing as Roshi.
>>289828275He tucked it into his torso to survive the blast.
>>289828331Oh, I guess the Constellation Auras are visible in-universe
>>289828358>We've already established that...There's something funny about that phrasing
>>289828293>Wow Seiya cosmo's grow from 0% to 2%
>>289828414Every percent counts
>>289828331Kino
>>289828465Is he supposed to be bouncing from asteroid to asteroid? Kurumada really should've learned how to convey motion by now.
>>289828512Man, I haven't seen someone fall on the ground that hard since I watched Vrains
>>289828404>they said that golds are thousands of times stronger than silvers and bronze>itti, ban, jabu and some dead bronze saints have combined power to k.o. sagaThat's the big villain folks
>>289828404>>289828435>>289828465>in front of him>>289828512>>289828540>behind him nowCan someone please explain what happened? This is ignoring the laws of space. It's like if you threw a ball forward and it went backward.
>>289828589Seiya punched him so hard Saga did a full revolution around the world and landed just behind him.
>>289828633GOD OR DEMONWHAT AM I?IT'S TIME FOR ME TO CHOOSE MY PATH
>>289828404Isn't there like some guidebook that explained that the saints open up a dimension to do all these kinds of effects? That being why they're said to be able to smash stars but obviously the effects are never that widespread?
>>289828857Doesnt Athena shield have the medida head?
>>289828837>our job as gold knights is to protect Athena as her most powerful warriors>we will leave her to die with only the weakest special olympics knights to defend her because it must be fate that is testing herIs Mu retarded?
>>289826996Kiki looks like Patalliro everytime he shows.
>>289829024
>>289827201There it is, coolest attack in thee series btw
>>289829138>I would have chosen to be a normal girlRings hollow when "normal" to you is whipping a boys ass as you ride on his back around the yard.
>>289829210>"See you when CLAMP ships us as Zagato and Emeraude..."
>>289829210Very jungian
>>289829238The fuck happened to their bodies?
>>289829278And with this the greatest(not the best) arc in shounen ends and It is downhill from here
>>289829278Ikki and the tournament count as Sanctuary?>>289829372What's the difference?
And now, a little detour
>>289829398Greatest in most important with all the cliches and greatness played the best way possible whole at the same time being pretty dumb a lot of times
>>289829024don't worry seiya, i'm sure that's nothing important.
>>289829138>i would have chosen to be a normal girl>uses orphans as horsesyeah ok
>>289828309Toriyama copied this.
>>289829138She did 12 hours in 2 minutes.
>>289829278Asgard now, right?:(
>>289827371Probably the stress and being stuck on a desk
>>289829655Oh...I... guess it's too late already
>>289829701With Kiki unavailable, the part of mildly useful kid will be played by Jakob
Is this extra chapter exist just to give Hyouga a love interest?
>>289829024Episode Zero is canon
>>289829771>"Yeah, dude, I grew up in Russia and trained in Siberia"
>>289826436This has got to be the worst series i have ever read. you could say that its outdated since its a manga made in the late 80s but you know dragon ball exists, city hunter exists, fist of the north star, gosho bachi jojo etc.So this is very intermediate to the medicore standards of the 80’s ? Because this is poorly written and repetitive.
>>289829655Well... shit.
>>289829851Better than most series you named
>>289829851The manga's pretty damn rough, yeah.The anime carried it hard back in the day, and even it had its own unique set of problems.
>>289829915>Aurora ExecutionThis takes place after Sanctuary?
There's a doujin that adapts the Asgard arc to the manga's universe
>>289829851>This has got to be the worst series i have ever read.>Because this is poorly written and repetitive.Could you explain in detail why you think that?
>>289828540Could Playmaker beat Saga?
>>289829982Bitch, you split your father in two.This is a little beyond forgiveness.
>>289826473Did he need to have surgery?
No, I don't know what all that was about either
>>289826609Ikki's cloth got a nice upgrade
>>289829138>normal girl=bitchThe ultimate redpill.
>>289830024Well i wish i hadnt read this
>>289829138Reverse chun li
>>289826894Oh, surprising that he could show the spine
>>289827019What, were they listening to the telepathic conversation?
>>289830190>EthiopiaShe's kind, uh, pale for coming from there...Wait, the Black Saints had nationalities?
>>289827393Half of them died for nothing
>>289830214>Black Pegasus is Israeli...Too easy
>>289829943>the anime carried it hard only in visual and music terms because MY GOD when the anime decides to do some anime-only plot it fuckings sucks and makes inconsistencies and plot holes as the size of a black hole. lookin at you asgard and the movies
>>289830214Black Pegasus is Palestinian.
>>289830248I thought people loved asgard
>>289827691I think it was invented by the anime
>>289830271only because they are either nostalgia blinded or doesnt know any better and repeat the exact same opinion about it
>>289830296>FranceIn case you had any doubts about Misty being a Rose of Versailles referenceFucking twice in a row, unbelievableI'm more tired than I thought
>>289827760Seiya lost a bit o personality with the anime, the others had more personal dramas going on.
Seeing all the nationalities makes Cassios talking about how the Cloth should go only to a Greek even funnierEspecially when you consider his teacher being Italian
>>289830358Oscar would probably consider Misty to be a clown>>289830386Jamien and my aunt share a birthday.
>>289830296>Misty is 16Kuramada???????
>>289829944It's not part of the main story.
>>289828134>Shun's lips.Truly the trap among the bronzes
>>289830190>>289830214It's odd that westerners didn't blackwash June for accuracy in the CG show. Unlike all the other blackwashing, this time they had a good reason. To be fair, the second season was released on Crunchyroll and they were still licking its wounds for High Guardian Spice
>>289830324>Centaur Babel's sign is not SagittariusWasn't expecting this
>>289830511>Variable height for DohkoForeshadowing for the Misopethamenos
>>289828331>Bear,Hydra and Unicorn.Makes sense considering they actually have more personality than Leo minor and wolf.
>>289827260it's funny because the other guy wasn't old
>>289830575Saori has the same birthday as me
>>289830214I'm pretty sure there's been an international presence not unlike the British in India, or she could be from a line of missionaries/international aid workers.
>>289830600Miho the best
>>289828633>>289828661 it is likely the brothers were going to fight here
>>289828359no, how roshi is still alive will be explained during THAT arc
Done for todayCome back tomorrow to see what's next for our heroesBy the way, starting tomorrow these will start two hours earlier because I gotta start waking up early on Monday
Those ages feel so wrong.
>>289828937Perseus cloth has it
>>289828134wait, all of them were alive last time they were shown, why is seiya assuming they are dead?
>>289830644Every SS retelling aged up the characters
I, Shaka the virgin, hereby kneel to>Saga the master and strongest Gold Knight>Kannon equal to Saga therefore stronger than me>Ikki whose i beg for my life like a bitch>Shun the sucessor and strongest virgo Knight of all time>Aioria who i could never defeat and was saved by Saga>Mu for bailing me out when i end up in some weird dimension>Sidarta Gautama the one and only true enlightedAnd>God my best friend that allows me to use his name in my epitaph
>>289828955It is the golden saint formula.Kurumada introduced it, but he kept making excuses to keep them out of the plot.Kubo let the gold saints equivalent do as they wished, but it ended up causing a lot of bloat.It took until KnY for it to hit a balance.
>>289830644That's one thing everyone can agree on.
>>289830644what can you say athena likes 'em young
>>289829278the best sega ever
>>289830697>this is an indian man
>>289829612>>289829627>>289829655isn't this basically the plot of one of the movies?
>>289830530>Aioros is only 14Kek
>>289830248it's you, asgard and movies are cool
>>289830190were June's parents from Rhodesia?
>>289826631the structure is always the same>raise arm (single)>character is sent off>gets up unscratched
>>289830707
>>289830374Fake post.
>>289829594>>289829612Hyoga finally meet his waifu (female)
>>289826945>were you having a nice dream?Getbackers TRACED this.
>>289830644>>289830702What's wrong with them?
>>289826965This man is composed entirely of ENTER poses.
>>289830763oh yeah because seeing shun getting bodied in one move and saved by ikki is peak writing
>>289829851You can notice by the way children are draw, that it is more archaic than those
>>289830575>>289830600>all the girls are 13
>>289827260Aw, look at the widdle gold saints <3
>>289830873Nobody likes Shun.
>>289830873Is movie Shun that bad?
>>289826894How many times is it now? 3? This pussy mangaka never went through with beheading.
>>289827019Kek, it's a group call now.
That dumb box thing with Shun I saved years ago was this part >>289592325
>>289829024Metaphorically, the shield burns Saga's evil side.Some retards have argued for years that it was the literal god Ares, because that's the name the Pope used. Even when Kurumada can't do subtext and literally mentions what happens on the page multiple times.Then it got retconned into being some kind of evil spirit some goddess put in Saga as a baby for shits and giggles?What the fuck.
>>289829190>destroys the gold clothThanks, Saga, I'm sure the next saint won't need it.
>>289827171A fucking daruma doll. Remind me again, isn't this guy Greek?
>>289830838Literally the Netflix meme of guy in his 30's playing a high school boy.
>>289829238The saints will die horribly at the end of every single arc. By the start of the next one, they're all alive.This never gets old, btw.
>>289827260Is Aphrodite a reincarnation of the goddess or did someone just name their son Aphrodite?
>>289829851Holy shit taste, Batman.
>>289831041Eh. It's pretty easy to suspend my disbelief when the character designs are so simple and I'm busy getting frustrated with the writing/choreography instead.
>>289830024Hyouga really is the fucking worst.
>>289831017>because that's the name the Pope usedWasn't it the name of the filler pope's brother?
>>289830967All of them include a scene of him losing only for Ikki to save him. In the third one (best one) it's a guy he already defeated in the past that he needs to be saved from.
>>289827489She just plops down there at the feet of her own statue as a baby? No parents?
>>289831041Funny how Cassius is a Sagittarius
>>289830418>birthplace: AfricaWhat a strange country.
>>289831017Saga having a split personality is a good enough explanation. There was no need to make Ker responsible for his issues.
>>289831136Seems likely, some spinoffs have her have a family
>>289830967from movie 1 to 3 he just shows up in the battlle to get bodied im not kidding, the only exceptions are movie 4 on which he actually puts a good fight and movie 5 where he does a tag team alongside ikki>>289831070yes, he just shares the same name with the goddess aphrodite the actual goddess exist but uses the roman name
>>289831131Dragon Ball TRACED this too.
>>289829943I don't know. As someone who grew up watching the anime from the age of six and didn't read the manga until my 30s, I have to say I'm surprised by how much better the story is told in the manga.For starters, many of the anime's plot holes (often created by the filler arcs) simply don't exist.I can understand why some people don't get into the manga because of the character art. It's an older-style manga, so it can be quite a shock for younger readers who are used to modern art styles.
>>289831199People even memed that "Ikki" was actually an actual attack that allowed Shun to summon him to fight for him.
Shaka is stronger than Saga.
>>289831106He is the only main Bronze that can be removed from the story and nothing would be lost.
>>289831222well to be fair the artstyle isnt really that of a problem, the rerise of poseidon manga spin off used a similar art style to the manga and it looks GOOD
>>289827851Just make it about new generation of knights instead of about Athena. It'd fit better that way, since your generation are either in agreement with the evil faggot, are unaware, or did not do anything even though you know. If it's about Athena, you faggots are also her knights, you fucking bums.
>>289830530>aioros was only 14man, kurumada had very high standards on japanese youth
>>2898280276th and 7th.
>>289831249In opposite day
>>289831261Sorry, I may have expressed myself poorly. I wasn't talking about the art style itself, but rather the way the characters are drawn and presented. The panels can feel very static, especially during conversations, with little movement besides the "camera" zooming in or out.If anything, I think Kurumada's artwork is great, especially when he draws the Cloths, other armors, and the backgrounds.I've only read the first chapter of the Poseidon arc, so I still have a lot to catch up on. Is it finished?
>>289828141Maybe they're made by Hephaestus himself.
>>289831317Cope.
>>289828141It was set early on that the destruction is actually really localized
>>289827288>>289827316>>289827350>>289827377>now Saga also invades the Zoom call and invites everyone else
>Rerise of Poseidon.The art style is really limited by trying to copy Kurumada's. >>289831342Yes, it ended
>>289831342The prose too can come as very robotic
>>289829138Oh fuck off, you fucking bitch.
>>289831017>Then it got retconned into being some kind of evil spirit some goddess put in Saga as a baby for shits and giggles?That's honestly something a goddess from the Greek myths would do, the Olympians were petty as fuck. Except Hades who was super chill most of the time.
>>289829494I swear if Hyouga lost against these fucks after punching above his weight fighting the golds...
>>289829594Fucking hell, Hyouga. You fucking jobber.
>>289831526>>289831540He was holding back
>>289829701This fucking kid could find the elusive settlement of the once thought extinct Blue Grande.
>>289829771Nigga, this guy regularly swims in the arctic sea.
>>289829832The kid doesn't even know who Natassia even is.
>>289829190>>289829210So, this or the Toei ending?
>>289827043>The guy who disappeared right before the Master suddenly changed voices, hair and build was the Master???Our heroes...
>>289831017>it got retconned into being some kind of evil spirit some goddess put in Saga as a baby for shits and gigglesThat sounds like something out of a Greek myth, the Greek pantheon consists of assholes like that.
>>289831676>find natassia for me>find who?>>289831839either the gold saints are too lazy or too stupid
I think donning these Cloths for a long period of time has the side effect of turning you retarded.
Would the plot have been more or less complicated if the twist had been that all the non-rebellious Gold Saints were under Saga's Demon Emperor Fist?
>>289831942to be fair, half the cast are in their early teen stupid phase
>>289828141Saints have great control over AoE I guess.
>>289828141cosmos can't melt stone pillars
>>289828031Gotta say, I prefer the beatdown he received in the anime
>>289829736Yeah, it's a non canon side story inspired by the Asgard movie.
>>289832037slightly more but at least it would fill the plot hole of why none of these fucks did anything after the bronzes got them questioning the fake Master.
>>289830214Kurumada probably wanted to have her white and blonde like his depiction of Andromeda, who was also rather white for an Ethiopian woman.Guessing the reason the CGI show didn't blackwash her is because they already caught controversy for the Shun gender change, which nixed their plans to do the same to Aphrodite.
>>289830235The Black Saints are old enough to be Kido's kids, and Black Saints happen when men failed to become true ones.What if the some of the 90 that didn't die wound up becoming those?
>>289830190>>289830214>>289830235Kind of funny how the manga and anime end up giving the impression that the Black Four are evil clones of the Bronze Four, when in fact, they are just some randos from all over the world. I know same-face can be an issue in Saint Seiya, but he could at least give them different hairstyles.
>>289831041The anime makes it worse when we see a flashback of Cassios vs. a little boy Seiya and Cassios looks exactly the same as the present.
>>289831126Either Ares or Arles, depending on what Toei materials you trust.Pat Munson-Siter, when making her English Seiya fan guide, spread misinfo about the Pope being Ares the God of War and the DiC dub went with that too.
>>289832615pure unadulterated spartan blood
>>289826631>Illusion type>He's also the biggest tank
>>289832517It's worse in a supposedly-canon light novel Koyama wrote taking place between some episodes of the early anime, where Ikki winds up fighting against even more Black Saints that replaced the dead ones. The art has them looking exactly the same.
>>289828512It just works.
>>289832640him thinking he's anything but a tank is the illusion
>>289828202>>289828031 is galaxy buster thoughbeit.
>>289830235>The love of my life looked like my little brother>The same day she died, I happened to find this Turkish twink who looks exactly like my brother>Therefore he looks exactly like my deceased belovedWas Black Andromeda's ass safe from Ikki?
>>289827019Each background shows the zodiac symbol
>>289832729I don't think any of that is meant to be taken literally. Cosmo is all miniature universes made of aura.
>>289827825Oh yeah, Dohko and Mu were the only ones to spot the impostor for obvious reasons
>>289827851Thanks, Roshi
>>289832738What if Ikki had a hankering for "selfcest" with his lookalike Black Phoenixes when Black Andromeda wouldn't be enough to sate him. Their deaths are a mercy.
>>289830214>Finland got stuck with an evil saintDamn
>>289828134That's Esmeralda
>>289828309Oh, actual genkidama
>>289828672>>289828141I remember Episode G using planet miniaturization as an active mechanic in combat
>>289832782It's real and he's using ki control to not blow space irl.
>>289833310
>>289829682Sure
>>289830126Shun's hobby is learning new moves
>>289828857>>289829024>>289829190Ok, so, in the case of anime adaptation we can go for the kotz netflix: https://youtu.be/R2XKcJ16v6s?si=OdpQXZrjvd2ZlecI&t=655, wich is bit more close with manga; or the first SS:https://youtu.be/3EriodUdj4M?si=k220Ir_Zx41-so2J&t=1783, wich some changes give a bit more of extention for the rest of characters in the final battle's capitulation besides the protagonist.>>289830575https://youtu.be/xczJVQ-tWoU?si=leFG9pwvMIqKyzhB&t=278
The anime getting rid of Ikki's apparent disintegration in Sanctuary does create some other plotholes for Poseidon besides one that another anon mentioned. It's the whole effect of having to have Ikki in the plot for fillers, only for him to then vanish when things catch back up to the manga.
>>289833674It's a really solid doujinshi.
>>289829190>I screwed up so I will destroy myself and damage my armor tooSaga was not only a schizo. He was dumb as fuck.
>>289829915>>289829944Placing it in the canon can be problematic due to the Cloth's version and the technique (Aurora Execution), when you see the next arc's beginning. Treat it as just a cute special chapter focused on Hyoga.
>>289829851>the worse series aiaieaieiaieStill better than the horseshit you've mentioned, kek.
>>289831942God I miss the Dai anime. I'm still waiting on the hell arc sequel.
>>289832782If it's not literal it ruins the point of all of the dialogue. It is literal.
>>289833366Even if not literal, Saints, and especially Gold Saints have got to be packing heavy firepower.
>>289828585Saga was just having a schizo breakdown
>>289835247>>289829932>Dragon Ball>City Hunter>Gosho bachi>JoJo>Fist of the North StarWhich one is it supposed to be better than? The only one I'm uncertain of is Gosho bachi which I've never heard of.
>>289828404>>289828435>>289828465http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNsTmQRTLnU&t=22s
>>289827851>If it were simple Rôshi and i would've done it long ago> This is a...trial for Athena>It's a true knight job to save her!> Not me thoMusisters...>That boy Saga have killed the master> I better keep my ass in this goroho> OR I'M FINISHEDDohkeks...
>>289830698>It took until KnY for it to hit a balance.By making them jobbers?
>>289832626>Pat Munson-Siter, when making her English Seiya fan guide, spread misinfo about the Pope being Ares the God of War and the DiC dub went with that too.Women...
>>289829238>Zagato is just Saga without the schizophrenia
>>289830698The balance is apparently to just not have so fucking many of them.
>>289829612>You know my name?Yes you just told me
>>289829915>>289835234Even the manga has filler arcs, lmao
>>289830458>>289830477>>289830492>>289830511>>289830530>>289830554>their birthdays all fall under the same sign as their clothI know this was obviously intentional on Kurumada's part, but is this just a coincidence in-universe or does your zodiac need to match your cloth?
>>289830190Everybody comenting about Juné's birthplace (rhodesian parents lmao) , but Black Dragon is from Poland? Seriously?>>289830214And a Jew pegasus
>>289836623considering they are under the protection of their constellation it makes sense that a gold knight would be more attuned to the cloth that matches their sign.On that note Seiya is a Sagittarius, Shirhu a Libra, Hyoga Aquarius, which are the gold cloths they are connected to. Shun is a Virgo which makes sense.But Ikki is a Leo. Which sort of makes sense with his personality, although his phoenix powers are completely different But Ikki is a Leo and Sh
>>289830458>>289830458>>289830477Wait a minute...these motherfuckers were already GOLD knights 13 years ago...they were all 7-10? Aioros was 1 year old? WTF...Ages don't make sense in this manga, Kurumada doesn't give a fuck
If they were already gold saints as kids / teenagers, does that mean cloths have a kid mode? Do they got a painted toddler sized cloth as preparation for the real one? Is there a Kid category for Knights? Why do I even care about this? What *is* the Steel Knights' endgame?
>>289836867According to at least one spin-off, Cloths can change to fit the wearer
>>289836715>Seiya is a Sagittariuswhich makes me think the original plan was having him inherite the Sagittarius Saint position, even his name has the character for 'arrow' in it.>>289836827Aioros was 14 when he died, you kinda stop aging after deathI have more problem with a 10 y.o Shura beating the shit out of a 14 y.o AiorosOr maybe Shura was truly the strongest like he boasted to Shiryu
>>289826609>Saga talking shit about anyone being cockyHave some self awareness.
>>289826631>>289826671Did Ikki really expect to one shot Saga?
>>289827019Besides Deathmask and Evil Saga, who says the most slurs in the cosmo group calls?
>>289827234Mu only has one expression
>>289827260So, they started out as gold saints rather than going from Bronze to Silver and Gold?
>>289826785I'm with Saga here. Shattering Saga's psyche now is like trashing an already burned down house.
>>289827201Fantastic attack
>>289827489Athena is being contrarian, even Jesus was birthed.
>>289827708It's a shame that there's no relevant saint of the big dipper.
>>289827851>If she is so weak that a single evil being such as Saga can destroy her, then she is not the true AthenaThe Mandate of Heaven applies to gods too I see
>>289827825>I've never sensed even a hint of evil in the false master.Can't tell if Shaka is trying to save face or if this is just a humiliation ritual for him.
>>289837050Well, Seiya uses the Sagittarius cloth a lot during the manga.And about the shura vs aiolos thing, Aiolos is most concerned to run with Athena than fight.>>289837436Yes, there are the only ones at time with 7th sense, Orfeu is unavailable.
>>289837050>Shura was truly the strongest like he boasted to ShiryuHe didn't. People misunderstand this term. When they say "saikyo no gold saint" (the strongest gold saint) they mean the gold saints are the strongest.So they're not saying "I'm the strongest gold saint," they're saing "the gold saints are the strongest, and I'm one of them."
>>289827472The å¹» character on both that gets translated as phantom can also be illusion. No idea why they go with the latter.
>>289837436Yes, the lore is wibbly-wobbly. Sometimes you're a saint of this cloth because it's your destiny, sometime you upgrade from a previous rank, sometimes it's both.The correct reactioncto this is "don't worry about it."
>>289828726>Can't outspeed a guy that was limping awayI thought gold knights were supposed to be light speed and be capable of travelling the world multiple times over within a second?
>>289838367"Phantom" in the sense it's not real. Illusory. But you're correct; it's widely more associated with "ghost" and illusion would be a better descriptor. But also, "illusion" in an attack name sounds a bit namby-pamby. A strong warrior that uses illusions? That's some coward ninja shit.
>>289838418I always see it as their attacks move at those ridiculous speeds, when you see the cosmos flare effect on pages, but they can't do it all the time.
>>289829190That's kinda lame compared to the anime.
>>289827472"El Espectro del Diablo" and "El Satán Imperial" were better names.
>>289829594This jobber... How embarrassing.
>>289829494That...is just Aioria.
>>289836677The profiles forget his blind twin too kek
>>289829582JOBga, why are you like this?
>>289830126Your worst crime is holding back all the time, Shun
>>289829422Never knew this part exists til today. Thanks, OP.
>>289829976Not him, but every arc is just fight shit with no breaks in between,and the fights aren't even interesting. How many of the Gold Saint fights WEREN'T resolved by "I'll power of friendship my cosmo to be higher than his"? The anime adaptation is carried hard by the visuals.
>>289838943>How many of the Gold Saint fights WEREN'T resolved by "I'll power of friendship my cosmo to be higher than his"Most of them.
>>289838943>Mu let them pass>Fake Gemini got beaten by Shun's chains finding Saga>DeathMask had Shunrei saving Shiryu and then his Cloth abandoning him>Aiolia was unbrainwashed thanks to Cassios>Shaka had Ikki deliberately sacrifice his senses to awaken the Seventh Sense>Milo basically killed Hyoga and then spaeed him when he saw that Hyoga hit him in all fifteen vital points>Shiryu did a sacrifice play against Shura>Shun revealed a trump card he always had against Aphrodite
>>289830235>all of Ikki's shadows are 173cm and 63kg what dedication to the cause. Nowadays they cry that height and weight requirements are discriminatory...
>>289826436
It's rather noticeable that they only get two straight up wins with no technicalities or outside interventions, compared to how most of the arcs that take after this in other Shonen go
>>289839112>>DeathMask had Shunrei saving Shiryu and then his Cloth abandoning himAfter which Shiryu took off his own to be evenly matched, then overpowered him with the power of friendship.>>Aiolia was unbrainwashed thanks to CassiosHe still needed a hit from Seiya, which he got in by raising his cosmo through the power of friendship.>>Milo basically killed Hyoga and then spaeed him when he saw that Hyoga hit him in all fifteen vital pointsWhich they literally tell you he achieved by raising his cosmo higher at that moment.
>>289830418>birthplace: Africaalong with those H/W stats surely this kid is not human
>>289839240You're grasping.
>>289830477Saga's character sheet has no birthplace.
>>289839304He just showed up fully clothed one day.But in truth, he was almost certainly born in the Sanctuary like Aioros.
>>289829879It's always this exact same pose.
>>289839259>character wins an exchange with an opponent that's supposed to be superior by raising his cosmo higherI'm not grasping nor goalpost moving, I was literally thinking of those when I wrote the original post. This is the mechanics by which most fights are resolved.
>>289839394But they're not, because they didn't win and the stronger character was still stronger and allowed them to pass.
>>289833998>anime gave him stoner eyesHow is anyone supposed to take this seriously?>>289835827I don't see how.
>>289839861>I don't see howIt doesn't, it's just background art. The meteor fists are not literally meteors and the galaxian explosion doesn't actually explode a galaxy. It just works to make the attacks more distinct.
>>289829932>>289835247Cmon now, let's not go that far.
>>289830889Shaina is 16.>>289830642Thanks OP!
>>289830418>Birthplace: Africa>Training grounds: UgandaWhy not have him being born in Uganda in the first place?
>>289838418He clearly has brain problems getting in his way.
>>289835893It's better than about half of Jojo.
>>289838418Cut the guy some slack; he just fell a thousand feet, through a stone ceiling, into a stone floor.
>>289830575>Tatsumi: 32 y.olmaoI'll be presumptuous and say many anons here were Kiki's age when they discovered Saint Seiya, and now they're Tasumi's age. Boys how time flies
>>289835893Better than City Hunter, Jojo part 1 and 2, and HnK
>>289842569I'll give you City Hunter and the second half of HnK, but Nah i enjoy the hamon parts of Jojo more than SS so far.
>>289830275>Marin: 16 y.o, 167 cm, 51 kg, born on March 18th>>289830642>Seika: 16 y.o, 167 cm, 51 kg, born on March 18thSeiyabros, I think I'm onto something here
>>289842569>City Hunter>part 2absolutely not. It's only better than parts 1, 4, 8, and 9.
>>289839989True. I might have been too harsh.
>>289843366Anon, let's be real. Do you think Seika, after Seiya was taken to live with the Kidos, just up and traveled to Greece, discovered the legendary Sanctuary of Athena, was taken in to train there, became a silver saint and was then given Seiya as an apprentice?
>>289830275shina the best
>>289827260cute!!
>>289837050>>289836827I messed up i meant Aioria was 1 year old, like here in >>>289826436that's a 1 year old Aioria lmao
>>289827736come on Shion, you're supposed to be one of the strongest saints who ever livedold age must've taken a real toll on him, to get 1-hit killed like that
>>289845857>like here in >>>289826436 (OP)supposed to be this page >>289827260
>>289827260So Aioria was already a gold saint when the Pope died. The anime makes it seem like he was still a child and bullied so much he became a gold saint to prove them all wrong.Brass balls on those sanctuary kids to bully a fucking gold saint...
>>289828955I blame Dohko. Mu heard from him that they're supposed to remain conveniently out of the plot, and went with it because Dohko is a "wise" seniorI mean, just look at all the dumb shit he taught Shiryu
>>289828955if she died like that then she wasn't really Athena.Basically having the bronze saints save her by defeating the gold saints serves to prove that she's the real deal
>>289827825THE SAGA FILES ARE FREE TO THE PUBLIC
>>289828031And so Ikki Hades adventures begin (All the specter knew him, kek).
>>289846001Perseus saint also told him to screw himself, and even in the manga, we had foot soldiers looking at him.
>>289828633JUNINI!
>>289847482He wasn't wearing gold by then so probably they didn't know. Otherwise they would be shitting themselves.
>>289837847As we saw in his introduction, Saga varies between perfectly benevolent and "murderous insane".
>>289831942They fall head first
>>289837050>which makes me think the original plan was having him inherite the Sagittarius Saint position, even his name has the character for 'arrow' in it.It is kind of a flip flop between "becoming goldies" and "surpass them".Seiya, Hyoga and Shiryu are groomed to replace the vacant spots, but Shun and Ikki weren't even remotely.
>>289830458OH HEXA
>>289847002But then that's not her being tested at all, it's just the bronzes. The saints supposedly being warriors of justice should be willing to go out of their way for her even if she wasn't Athena at all.
>>289835199Mu can fix it, and a good!Saga is too powerful to be kept around.
>>289833284Could you explain how that works?
>>289827769Cosmo keeps you from dying of absolute zero or atom-busting punches. It also keep you living longer.
>>289848198how could the bronzes defeat the gold if they didn't have the backing of the real Athena?And she wasn't just a random innocent girl caught up in the action, she was going against the master and declaring herself athena.Look at it this way, the golds are upper management and the CEO left years ago and left one of them in charge.Now someone else butts in and claims to be the new CEO and wants to take over.Obviously they're going to test her credentials before accepting her.
>>289828633>>289828661The "WHO ARE YOU?" were originally in English. Because cool.
>>2898484547th sense. Same way one gold could defeat another. >Obviously they're going to test her credentials before accepting her.Then the test was already complete by Aldebaran.
>>289848464should've been in greek, if anything
>>289848006The current hue meta is, oh pix
>>289848515facepalm.jpgreread what you said>how could someone beat someone much stronger >by being strongerno shit they need the 7th sense. But 5 bronze saints with months of experience at best awakening to the 7th sense is unthinkable, unless they have in fact the backing of Athena.And goddamn are you dense. Aldebaran just let them pass, saga was still in charge with his loyal golds and sari was still dying. The test is being able to get through the 12 houses defeat saga and save athena
>>289848732>But 5 bronze saints with months of experience at best awakening to the 7th sense is unthinkable, unless they have in fact the backing of Athena.Not really. Athena wasn't even lending them any power by that point, all they had to go off of was Mu telling them about it and they just did it themselves by then. If all they needed was the 7th sense to prove she's Athena, then it's already passed by Aldebaran regardless of if he "let them by" or not, that has nothing to do with the discussion.
>>289836867Cloths alter themselves to fit the wearer.>>289837436Some Gold Saints start out as Gold, others are promoted from Bronze or Silver.
>>289848392Each titan reigns over a celestial body and can summon it for various usesExamples>Hyperion Usually wind powers, the sun gives him solar winds>CriosCool sword, the planet rotation and orbit works as a shield>Giapeto and ThemisShare the same planet, they use the souls of the alien civilization as fuel or for other summons
>>289836827Why do you think the anime basically ignored the official ages?
>>289827260>Gold clothes can reform their sizes as the wearers grow up
>>289848392If you meant things from the classic series like the Galaxian Explosion then it's "because cosmos" inner universe etc.
Amazing as ever, even with all the glaring flaws.
>>289831222Do note most holes were made because Kurumada changed already established stuff and was always late.The anime Sanctuary finale was postponed by two weeks and half invented because Kurumada was incredibly slow and the anime staff reached the manga too fast.It wasn't the first time
>>289829943>>289830248>>289831222>>289834111Imo, the anime being sillier and having more plot holes doesn't really bother me because that kind of thing is already present in the manga, because it's pros just make up for it, but that's just me.
We need a lost Canvas storytime after this
>>289851391I never read it, I wonder what it's about
>>289848392I was under the idea that certain saints create or open dimensions in order to use their destructive moves, kind of like Sephiroth using Supernova in FF7.
>>289838418Seiya was limping at lightspeed.
>>289851391more likely a ND
>>289853727Gold. A lot of Gold
>>289853727Has better art, but overall it's pretty bad.
>>289853727Lost Canvas is the story of the previous war between Hades and Athena, set 200 years before Saint Seiya/Knights of the Zodiac.>>289854444I wouldn't mind a ND storyline, I never read it but heard about how things went and certain characters.Its up to OP, though.
>>289853727 A holy war 200 years before the main series, it's not canon to the main series and Next Dimension portrays the same time period with almost a completely different set of characters.
>>289854634>Lost Canvas is the story of the previous war between Hades and AthenaAn alternate universe version.Say it with me, children>Lost Canvas is not canon
>>289854703is there a consensus in the fanbase about which one's better?
>>289854634You forgot to mention that the Lost Canvas is a spin-off. It's not canon to the original manga.
>>289851391Nah, ND would be better.
>>289854999No, at his height you had a lot of fags argue which is better, personally I enjoyed Lost Canvas more even if the final arc had a lot of retardation.
>>289854999TLCsissies will whine that TLC is the bestest ever.Sane fans will just enjoy whatever they like more.
>>289855057The final arc managed to be even worse than OG Hades arc. All of that without having to end the story earlier than expected and shit. TLCfags often like to keep silent about it and seethe over Kurumada's manga.
>>289854999Definitely not LC.
>>289855230
>>289855194The arc has a lot of retarded shit especially with Tenma's dad, gemini and Regulus but ND just wasn't interesting at all to me.
Next time we'll make it...
