Why did it fail to become a phenomenon the way Frieren did?
The characters weren't sexy enough
>Unesco sponsored "anime"
Being number 1 on MAL doesn't make something a phenomenon.
>>289856958Because it doesn’t have the maturity of frieren (unironically).
>>289856958Schizo thread.
>>289857092debatable
>>289856958Becuase it doesn't appeal to straight men
>>289856958Hype culture is retarded and a major blight to our civilization.
>>289856958No auraNo rizzSomething the kids would say I dunno.
>>289857092It does no matter how you spin it, maybe you wanted to say "make something good", now that's up to debate.
>>289856958It tried to appeal to the wrong crowd.Every fan is an insufferable retard.
>>289856958It only had budget but no soul. People talked about it for a week and then moved on to better shows.
>>289856958>for womyn and it clearly shows>>289857347Basically this. Unironically.
>>289856958The author acts like a dumb leftoid on twitter and is pro-censorship. That turned every smart reasonable people off.
>>289856958call me a contrarian but frieren is too masturbatory idk why normies like it so much. first season was good tho.
>normalfag popularity threadkill yourselves
>>289856958Dumb hats
>>289857783>on twitterAs if that mattered. The anime reflecting that is the problem.>avoid any fanservice or serious glorification of little girls and make them wear baggy shit all (and I mean ALL) the fucking time>but go on fool drooling after the perfect guy, have gay romance between him and bearded faggot and also make sure to give him body tight clothesJust a modern retarded woman.
>wha trannies are throwing a fit againGood job op
>>289857841/a/ hates Frieren. The only ones who like it are dumb covid tourists.
>>289857892>>289857841Frieren is a fantasy series with basically casual and shounen appeal. Not good, but nothing horrible.WHA is a woman's fantasy with very poorly written magic system and a lot of moralfaggotry and no appealing girls.
>>289857876Are you the schizo who says this about literally every anime after 2015?
>>289856958Character motivations were extraordinarily flat, too much mystery, the magic system wasn't narratively compelling, and non-witches were depicted as being complete useless idiots.So it was a slow to non-existent plot, a mildly interesting setting in exactly one way, and flat characters. Not that great.Frieren had a boring, but familiar setting, EXCELLENT characters with deep motivations and they were endeared to the audience very well, and the plot is a standard journey with a twist.It really comes down to the characters. I don't even remember Witch Hat Atelier's characters' names. But I care quite a lot about what happens next to Frieren and Stark and Fern on their journey.
>>289857876It matter because you can tell she hasn't read anything longer than a tweet with the way the characters talk. It's very poorly written and it's just an excuse for the author to brag about her moral superiority.
>>289856958Lack of feet.
>>289857923whats wrong with a fantasy series including morality into its world? frankly i find it interesting when magic has restrictions, taboos, etc because they exist just to be broken which makes the story more fun.
>>289857938>schizoFuck off.>every animeOnly every anime where it's true.
>>289857938>everyone I don't like it's a schizoYour little mind works in a very funny way
>>289857923>WHA is like Frieren but I hate women and I know WHA's author is a woman so I hate WHAWhat a compelling argument, almost like OP (who's a Frierentranny) is samefagging his usual retarded bullshit.
>>289857976>I hate womenNTA but WHA fans (You) are the fags thoThe series appeal to low test men like them
>>289857976>WHA is like FrierenAre you as retarded as the author, or actually such a homosexual that you can't see the clear distinction between casual appeal (and no, appealing to casuals is not good) versus female appeal (be it fujoshi or regular women/josei) where it's obvious?They couldn't be any different.
>>289857954Does the truth hurt too much? You wonder why a retard like you even watches anime.What anime has glorification of little girls with fanservice?
>>289858015>The series appeal to low test menNot even. This series appeals to women. That's it. End of fucking story.It does anything to escape "dirty male otaku" even bothering with it.
>muh it's poorly written because muh woman twitter>likes FrierenYou really can tell it's the tranny who's been shitposting WHA for years.
>>289858035>What anime has glorification of little girls with fanservice?Thanks for showing you're a newfag. Now fuck off.
>>289858084>can't name any>defers to insult>thinks he's not a retarded loser
>>289858070Why is every wha fan mindbroken?Is the low test?
https://desuarchive.org/a/thread/289488297/This was thread of the year.
>>289858098>defers to insultYou were the one who called someone a retard for stating facts.You're also the one who never watched older anime. Eat shit, Loli Hater-kun. You're not fooling anyone. Like clockwork.
>>289856958I think it being woke is what holds it back. No sex appeal. A crippled character. A fat queen. A story about defeating an incel who wants to see through clothing. Multiracial demographics with no coherent ethnography.I like it but it is clearly made for left wing women. It has a lot of similarity to modern woke output from Hollywood and the video game industry.
>>289858128>can't answer>posts about his boogeyman again>thinks he's sane
>>289858054I mean yeah, you can tell. YYK appeals to woman but it also had some meat for 14 years old powerscalers. The characters in witch hat atelier simply don't appeal to men aside from a few nonces.
I found it boring. It didn't manage to capture the sense of adventure that should come with magic as the plot weighs too heavy over the slice of life side.Ends on a cliffhanger.
>>289858154>Loli Hater-kun thinks he's clever when "he" doesn't even know lolis used to be treated like appealing characters in the past
It's boring and lacks soul.
>>289858167>The characters in witch hat atelier simply don't appeal to men aside from a few nonces.You mean you hate lolicons and think they're nonces.
>>289858167It's pretty obvious. But it's not like there's no clear cut target demographic for this shit and this is 100% for women, the collateral male demographic is definitely miniscule on purpose.
>>289858215The author sure does.
>>289858215>loliconsThis series doesn't appeal to lolicons, that's for fucking sure. Not once, not remotely.
>>289858204Thanks for repeating your usual, OP.
>>289858282>t. mindbroken schizo
>>289858260You don't have anything to say to the anon who called you a nonce, LRTranny?
>>289856958Too leftist. It doesn't have a lot to offer to anyone outside of that very particular (and pathetic) demographic.
>>289858345I think you're a nonce too btw
>>289858345Why would I call about random fucks' namecalling?The anime has zero lolicon appeal (or male appeal, at that).
>>289858364Thanks again OP.
>>289858364heard you the first time, no need to keep repeating it
>>289856958One word: foidslop
>>289858411>Why would I call about random fucks' namecalling?You sure seem to care about mine for calling you a schizo. Why don't you care about the guys who's calling you a nonce and is very blatantly anti lolicon?
>>289856958No isekai tropes
>>289858456I don't really care about you calling me schizo.I just realize it's you whenever you start your usual defensive shit for anti lolicon trash with that namecalling.
>>289856958Why does that matter? Does it need to be?
>>289858456>>289858488Adding to that, I don't care about him calling me a nonce or being anti lolicon either.He doesn't deny the anime has no lolicon appeal and doesn't defend censorship, at least didn't see it here.
>>289857950You need to lurk more. At least 2 years before posting, and watch 2400 hours of anime during that time, too.Morality != moral-faggotry
>>289856958Too shitty for being anything other than a FotM
>>289858447Another organic /a/ post that doesn't sound like a samefagging covid tourist at all. Bravo, OP!>>289858504OP thinks Frieren is good. He's using it to maximize the effect. It's weird.
>>289858517I've been here longer than you've been alive I'm guessing. Settle down.
>>289857950Are you retarded? Most authors don't go on a rant 3 years later because they saw an ass on the shounen jump.
>>289858516>I don't care about him calling me a nonce or being anti lolicon either.Then why the constant seething at LHK?>He doesn't deny the anime has no lolicon appeal He said it appeals to nonces. He means (You).>and doesn't defend censorship, at least didn't see it here.He thinks it's leftist anime so he's doing his best to cancel it.
>>289858539That's not the brag you think it is, loser
>>289856958ITT: unreliable conflicting narratives.
>>289858573I'm not trying to brag. Get off this site if you can.
>>289858560>He thinks it's leftist animeIt kinda is.>doing his best to cancel itHow?>why the constant seething at LHKPointing out that I know it's him and hoping he can steer back the conversation to at least _why_ he's defending the lack of loli appeal this time.
>>289858560>He thinks it's leftist animeHe's right. Can't you see it? Are you a big dum dum?
>>289856958Because it's boring, there's literally no other reason for it.
>>289857347this
>>289856958It's boring and leftist
>>289858604>Pointing out that I know it's him and hoping he can steer back the conversation to at least _why_ he's defending the lack of loli appeal this time.I love lolis. I fap to them. OP would totally call me a nonce.I don't know why you have this delusion that I hate loli. Are you mentally ill?
>>289858579This thread has better writing than wha
>>289858674>likes culture war bullshit and political posting over animeFigured.
>>289858643>OP would totally call me a nonceI'm not OP
so nobody likes leftism and trannies know it so they're trying hard to deny it or steer away the discussion from pointing out that anime is woke? like I dont get itIf you already understand that nobody likes you why not just fuck to blue sky or whatever instead of trying to pollute a clear consensus here that your woke anime is trash?
>>289858694Who the fuck asked you?
>>289858539Then why do you post so badly?>>289858573Nah I'll play the game.
>>289858643If you love lolis, why are you constantly defending series that hate lolis?Can you do this without trashtalk?
>>289858688That's a good description of wha
I tried to read the manga back when it was fresh but stopped around ch20It just wasnt well put together. To me its primary fault is an author who put too many eggs in the drawing basket and not enough in the writer basket. The characters could be better.The world setting could be better.The plot could be better. etc.
>>289858704WHA fans aren't the smartest, please understand
>>289858735>If you love lolis, why are you constantly defending series that hate lolis?If you love lolis, why are you constantly watching series that hate lolis? Why do you consume anti lolicon industry slop?>Can you do this without trashtalk?Says the schizo who trashtalks me constantly.
>>289858789You don't need to be concerned about why I watch something, it's irrelevant.The point is: the series is made for women, and it frantically avoids any loli fanservice, while goes all out with male service.Also, it's not like there's lolicon anime anyways. But pointing out something is anti lolicon shouldn't need any particular reason.
>>289856958Using same forced tactic won't work i guessAlso, the anime's story is actually quite basic. Not to mention there won't be any moments later on where characters throw kamehamehas at each other or cannonballs send people flying, so I can see why people would end up thinking "Well, that happened"
>anime tackles the pros and cons of public access to magic and whether the benefits outweigh the consequences>OH WOW IT'S ABOUT TRANNY POLITICS AND UHHHHHHHH... DADDY ISSUESYou know, not everything is about your made up genders and lack of a proper father figure.
>>289858885Go to twitter and tell them that, retard.If you're too stupid to pick up on details at least take the words of the author herself.
>>289856958Because this is a childish story for little kids. It's like a disney show but with anime graphics. It does nothing new or interesting in any department.
>>289858885>>anime tackles the pros and cons of public access to magic and whether the benefits outweigh the consequencesReally? Where? Because they just SHOW that it's bad for everyone to have magic access over and over and over. They don't even TALK about expanding magic access to everyone. Literally not a single person thinks it's a good idea. Even the brimfucks don't really talk about that, they seem to be more pro-chaos and specifically going after "da chosen one" MC for mysterious reasons instead.
>Author: "I'm trying to reach everyone without being tone deaf about the current situation">Anon: WOKE WOKE WOKE
>author is pro-censorship>anon: my queen i'll protect you with my life
>>289856958It's High Guardian Spice with a budget
>>289856958No shonentard hypefag wants to watch a show about little girls drawing stuff
>>289859033Also feels the need to constantly completely cover all girls and for a very specific reason.The same reason she constantly sexualizes the guys on the other hand.
>>289859090No straight man either
>>289856958Basically is a moral faggot show that immediately violates its own morals. >have huge fuck off war due to magic>decide magic is "nuclear power" and only elite should have it>rule 1: resolve to use it for "good" and do no harm to the plebs>rule 2: keep the plebs in the dark about it>Magic leaked to a pleb>Plebs IMMEDIATELY harmed, no witch bothers to fix it, rule 1 violated. Mom pleb left for dead.>Witch takes her in so he can find leaker, rule 2 violated. >Witch trainee attempts to kill the pleb on sight right after she got there, rule 1 violated again. >Zero consequences for attempted murder thanks to pleb somehow magically covering for her? >Witch doesn't even bother to scold the ever loving shit out of the trainee for rule 1 violation and trying to kill his apprentice with a rigged trial. He KNOWS she helped her because she's too incompetent to work the teleport window. >Dude shows up later, sees rule violation, doesn't care, plot has to happen>Mom still dead in crystal, no one helping huh? That is like having a nuclear accident and no one in management going "we should clean that up">Pretty clear now it's just the elite doing whatever the fuck they want, rules be damned>Scene with the ink demonstrates that>never bother wiping girl's memory because plot armor (despite rules dictating it), so she is always the "outsider"The above dissonance is how audiences detect insincerity in media content. The "good guys" are practicing evil (in their own words too), and the "bad guys" are trying to free the plebs from a secret ruling society as a guerrilla force. This show would be WAY better if she was learning direct from a brimmed hat and trying to free the fellow plebs from fake moral faggotry and censorship. Would be WAY fucking better and more compelling.
tl;dr: too woke
>>289859124They do.But not little girls stuck as useless no characteristic pieces of shits with one bulldyke that's actually glorified some, surrounded by "super dreamy sexy perfect guys" (in author's mind) getting every fanservice and glorifiaction.
>>289859153*CorrectionReplace nuclear power with guns. Because that is a better equivalent now that I think about it, and is an actual political debate. Should plebs have guns, or just the elite? Replace guns with magic and the politics of WHA makes itself clearer that it's about a totalitarian secret society rather than "protect the plebs" that we ignore when we feel like it.
>>289858922why don't you stay there instead?
>>289859096>>289859258Bro we get it you're mad about the fanservice not catering to you particularly. You can lay off now. Nobody even disagrees with you here you're just aspie-looping.
Simp squad (one anon) is here boys
>>289859412OP asked why it wasn't popular or why /a/ didn't like it.Having a lot of maleservice and no girl service is a pretty big NO for anyone sane. They could have dropped the pretty boy faggotry and it could have been at least a bit less hated or obviously female targeted, but that's a huge part of it.
Organic replies stopped suddenly. Weird.
>>289859665A retard aspie-looping will do that.
>>289857876>shitting on women for being straight (chuddily)
>>289860018>>289859606
>>289856958It's too complex and thought provoking for the Frieren audience, also normalniggers have an aversion to lolis.
>>289860018>>289859428
>>289860119I guess for a retard like you a coloring book for toddlers is very complex and thought provoking lmao
>>289860119The anti-WHA-fag (OP) even called lolicons nonces.
>>289860181I'd think anyone liking WHA would hate lolicons the most.
>>289860175More than Frieren, yes. What a hollow disappointment that ended up being.
>>289860234>miserable schizo who sides with anti loli normalfags
>>289860307You're talking about yourself? Given you defend WHA which frantically avoided any fanservice to lolicons.
>>289856958Frieren gives the audience permission to indulge in Isekai tropes without the baggage of actually being an Isekai series
>>289860093I don't drool for cock when I see attractive men that's a (you) problemI think female fanservice is novel and I like seeing women be perverts even in a metatextual sense>>289859153For me it's MC not once thinking to break the social taboo to save her mom, but then again this was written by a woman
>>289860360>I don't drool for cock when I see attractive menYou sure don't, anon, you sure don't.
>>289859412That's why he made the thread in the first place
>>289860181I'm not the OP
>>289860175>normalniggersLike normalfags are not gobbling up series like Mushoku Tensei or Made in Abyss, just accept that WHA is painfully boring, there's also nothing complicated or original about it so don't cope with that.
>>28985709280 million people voting for 1 single anime vs your salty opinion would disagree
>>289860397>Aieee the chuds are coming for us please save me mangaka-samaYou woketards are pathetic snowflakes
>>289860483Thanks for admitting you're a deranged shitposter who wants to ruin threads and the board at least
>>289860704>collecting a list of his mental illnessSorry but I'm not your loverNot a single one of those posts are mine
>>289860704Damn covid tourists. What's up with the word "puriteen"?>>289860816You post like a newfag or tourist anyway.
>>289860855It's a buzzword used by a single dedicated shitposter, apparently from some online article. It's the same person who does all the ranting about censorship of anime including spamming threads with twitter screencaps about culture war drama. He's behind a lot of the routine shitposting.
>>289860952Is he wrong though?
>>289860704Pot calling the kettle black
>>289860952Would anyone have that article? I just want to know whether I can use that word.>>289861060>he>>289861075t. black kettle
>>289856958You ever notice how nobody ever posts any pics from the show in any of these threads? Any other show, even if it's a discussion thread or somebody shitting on something popular, there's always a ton of pics. Not for this.Everyone was talking about this show like it was going to be some mindblowing visual spectacle. But not only does nobody seem to have liked the story or characters, but nobody bothered to save any screencaps or post them. Nobody's excited to show off something they liked. All I saw of it during its run was some very cheap 3D, not even good 3D, just big gray blocks and shit.Furthermore I look at OP's image and I don't know a single character's name. I know character names from tons of shows I've never watched, even stuff I know just isn't for me and I'd probably not like so I'm apathetic to them and don't go in the threads. But even then I still know the names because people spontaneously bring them up in other threads. People post stuff all over the internet. That shit's osmosis on anything even halfway above mediocre. But fucking nothing on this. Just a black hole, except black holes have mass. This show was a void.It feels like all the hype was artificial. Then it came out and... nothing. Total apathy from everyone real. Zero audience, nobody watching, nobody talking about it. I've even seen a few people on YouTube who believed the hype and tried to bank on it and they can't get any views. Just abysmal. Where did all the interest go? It's like James Cameron's Avatar movies allegedly making billions of dollars but have zero cultural impact and I've never met anyone who's so much as mentioned seeing any of them.Anyway, witches should have hats with brims, and very short skirts. That seems like a hard requirement.
>>289861360Poor Alzheimer's patient.
>>289861360Besides the short skirt and how fanservice would elevate the designs, the way they were dressed and characterized throughout shows a very clear lack of passion for the characters. That's another part why being female orientated falls short a lot of times - the author merely uses the girls as tools for conveying a scene rather than characters.No wonder you can't remember their names. They can't expect passion from the watchers if they have zero passion for the characters either. Despite the stunning visual quality - there was nothing exciting to even make a screenshot of. And I make tons of screenshots, even of low quality kodomo shows with zero fanservice whatsoever. There was literally no way it would stay afloat on /a/.
>>289861360trvke
>>289860952What kind of mental illness do you have newfag?
not enough "basket of deplorables" comments
>>289860397>>289860704How are /a/ mods this incompetent now?
