Volume 62The CrackChapter 592: A Third Forcehttps://desuarchive.org/a/thread/274143504Previous thread:>>289976412
Thank you daily kages
B&W
>>290000615Okay, maybe it really is just personal preference, but I fucking hate this translation. I've seen so many pages with lines that just suck. And this is the official translation? What happened to Madara's "Disgusting" or "Pathetic"? >>290000661At least one of my favorite short fights in the War is coming up.
>>290000632Gedou Mazou is kid of a fraud. It doesn’t use its 7 stored bijuu well at all. It can bully Chouji and Shikamaru but it gets smacked around by proper Kage level enemies.
>>290000840It's completely indestructible to anything that isn't Kamui though. It can get knocked down but literally nothing except for Kamui ever does actual damage to it.
>>290000562Ain't that convenient!
>>290000562How did they find him? Perhaps Jugo's little birds or something?>>290000690How does Jugo or the birds know who Madara is? "That strong Uchiha guy" would sound more believable. Also aren't they still under the assumption that Tobi is Madara?
Done!
>>290000597Thanks for your contribution, Mei.
>>290000711Do we ever learn what that scroll is? Is it the jutsu for Edo Tensei?
>>290000661>they didn't need to extract Naruto's biju at all for the ghetto thingWhat the fuck is the point of this war then
>>290001116Uhhhhhh.,,, uhm,. uuhhhhh... ahhhh..uhm.
>>290000548Not sure if it's a scan problem or if that's just how it was originally drawn, but i remember some discussions being made about a supposed later revision of this page with Hinata besides Shino.
>>290000535>>290000548>>290000562I really don't understand why people say Sasuke is a compelling and sympathetic character, or that he's better written than other rival characters like Vegeta. He is genuinely written like shit.
>>290000579Stupid dumb woman can't understand what Madara literally explained last chapter.
>>290000597God damn wtf is Kishi's problem with Mei
>>290000562fucking how
>>290000679>But she's a woman, we should kill her to stop her suffering
>>290001116I guess Obito wanted to revive 10 tails in its complete form immediately instead of waiting, what, 15 minutes for an incomplete form to stabilize? Literally the only thing that makes it make some sense, otherwise it might as well be added to the pile of senseless decisions in this manga
>>290000579What? Why doesn't have have edo cracks anymore?
>>290000711>>290000723>All-knowingSure is a clunky way to subtly say>previous Hokage
>>290001224Whatever Sasuke's arc was, should have ended ages ago. The authors obsession with having him be equal to Naruto only hurt Naruto to the point people joked it was Sasuke Shippuden.
>>290000679Kind of funny to think Anko's unconscious body was just lying there the whole time Kabuto and co. were fighting.
>>290001474She was basically inserted into this arc for like 20 chapters, just so Orochimaru could come out of her neck while she's unconscious the whole time.
>>290000690Sauce is making a sensible point here
>>290000562>oh hey it's those two guys I collapsed a ceiling on and then left for dead after they, at great cost to their own health and safety, saved my life -multiple- times while escorting me on my own personal quest that they had no reason to go along with other than simply to help me, their teammate and 'friend'>...>what are your names again?
>>290000535>>What's a king to a God?>>What's a God to a non-believer?
>>290000699Suigetsu is now a Sasuke fangirl too.
>>290000723>Here's the actual reason for Anko to be here, to revive her abuser!Fucking dogshit manga
>>290000723>>290000738>>290000968>>290000986Arigatou, OP!
>>290001415used ancient uchiha skincare jutsu while offscreen
>>290000579>cracks goneso what, is he like legit alive now, or what?>>290000579all this bitch does is cry. no wonder she can't get married.>>290000723our... hero?
>>290000548How does Sasuke know how those bozos look like after the timeskip?It's not like they are famous on the bingo book or something.
>>290000661Hey remember when Shikamaru made the BRILLIANT deduction that Tobi was stealing the Sage's tools in order to gather a bit of Kurama's chakra?Well, apparently the BRILLIANT Shikamaru forgot to report this crucial piece of intel to HQ or anybody else.From Kakashi's and Naruto's reaction here, it's clear that they don't know what those things are.If they knew, they would have tried to get those or stop Tobi from feeding them to the Gedo statue.To think Shikamaru wasted the feat that earned a glazing from Tobi himself, tsk tsk
>>290000699What's he thinking about here? Is he considering finishing off Itachi's goal of stopping edo tensei (Madara) seeing as his big bro left it unfinished?I assume it's meant to be showing 'something' considering Kishi put those flashbacks there too, and not just him randomly musing about it
>>290000562https://youtu.be/ikQHkhL8YMM?si=xmoFGPy6DShG1NvE&t=196WHAT AM I
>>290000711>>290000723This is such a blatant vagueposting way to refer to the previous Hokage, but damn if people didn't lose their shit at THE panel. Also Anko only being used as a plot device to revive Orochimaru while sleeping through the war the entire time is fucking tragic. And then Kishi made her a whale.>>290001020It says the way to recover souls trapped in the Grim Reaper's stomach.
>>290000526Madara is the best part of the arc because Kishimoto stays true to his style without getting bogged down in “drama.” The only villains where the drama actually worked were Sasori, Kisame, and Zabuza—all the others are just lame. Look at how pathetic Danzo’s death was, and not in a good way—not “the villain dies because of his own hubris,” but rather “how the hell did he lose?” Or take the dreadful Itachi vs. Sasuke fight.
>>290000535>What doth life?
>>290000579MEI INFISHNETPANYTHOSE
>>290002133It's chain mail
>>290001978We all know SHITkamaru is a fraud, no need to tell us the obvious.
>>290000986thanks, OP!
>>290000562>Wham am IA fucking retard
>>290002069>>290002193Don't start.
>>290002168that's the inside joke, retard
>>290000597>women in a kishimoto manga
>>290000615Desperately trying to make Kakashi look useful. No way that hurt the statue
>>290002128I understand this reference
>>290001404It should take him minimum of six days to extract both Naruto and Bee, too, at least based on past extractions. Possibly he can use his Rinnegan to do it much faster, hence just tossing bijuu chakra into the mouth now.
>>290001020It’s never 100% explained but it probably contains Orochimaru’s plan to free both his arms and the dead Hokages from the Shinigami, which would let him cast Edo Tensei again and control all four of them.
Hiashi won.
>>290000661Obito is so fucking pathetic for not being able to extract these two with 6 paths Jinchurikis and Gedo statue.Nagato wouldn't have screwed up like this.
>>290000535what is love?
>>290002638Obito is a jobber, Nagato had some semblance of skill.
>>290002638Kisame already had one of them dead to rights too.
>>290000535>>290000548This is deep. Sasuke is great character
>>290002638>My eye is itching for war!>Because it'a gonna let me control these zombies while I sit on the sideline watching them get destroyed by Naruto and BeeKekaro
>>290002651baby don’t hurt me
>>290000711Spoil me, what's on the scroll?
>>290000562>what am I?A giant fucking asshole who gets a pass
>>290000723What a dogshit chapter
>>290000615Where are his Edo Tensei cracks?
>>290000723Uchiha are the problem
>>290003372Kishi got tired of drawing them
>>290003212We are never told :)
>>290002128TAKE THATTASTE THE PAIN
>>290000535>>290000548>>290000562Is this the point where Sasuke becomes one note? Maybe it's nostalgia but I remember thinking how complex he was earlier in the series and now..?
>>290002107>Kisame>does absolutely nothing relevant throughout the whole story>tries to capture Bee but fails>jobs to Guy>has his tragic backstory revealed right before he dies in a desperate attempt to make the readers care for him despite how irrelevant he wasI don't understand why people praise Kisame so much. His character was fucking terribly executed. It's the same as Kabuto and how we got his tragic flashback and character motivations right before he was defeated and taken out of the story.
>>290004042Sasuke got absolutely butchered much earlier. His major downfall as a character was 5ks
>>290000579>not showing Tsunades massive titsDISAPPOINTED
>>290004042>>290004094Honestly even by the Tenchi Bridge his character was really questionable. Like he had no problem with nonchalantly murdering his former teammates and even going as far as to use KIRIN on them, but yet he still has principles and refuses to kill the guys Orochimaru throws at him, and later on says that he's only willing to be "heartless" towards extreme scumbags like Orochimaru or Itachi? And then there's also how he cares for Taka in the Bee fight but doesn't care for them at all in 5KS.The truth is his character has been on a downards spiral ever since he met with Itachi in the Tsunade Search arc.
>>290002708His eye was but not everything else.
>>290002638And he didn't just instagib Kurama with genjutsu either the time he had him freed or when Nagato blew up Konoha because...?
>>290005366Also he didn't take back his other eye from Kakashi because.....?
This arc is really bad
Mei fucking sucks. What a useless cunt.
>>290000535>>290000548>>290000562What a sad end to Sasuke's story. Shoving snake dna and diseased eyeballs into his body had a consequence, and his prion disease finally kicked in.
>>290005437And he didn't kidnap Naruto and instead woke him up to aurafarm that one time when he could have easily fucked over everyone there because........?
>>290003390Imagine how good the manga would have been if the Uchiha never existed
>>290006161There'd be no manga
>>290006215Exactly
>>290004047I like how his character arc ties in with other characters’. It’s powerful for several reasons. Kishimoto didn’t shy away from portraying the rulers as scummy manipulators; he explored the concepts of honor, ego, and pride through Kisame losing his sword and being defeated in several fights where he had the upper hand. That was absolutely everything that kept Kisame alive, including Itachi, with whom he had formed a bond. There are so many layers to his suicide that it makes it one of the best deaths in the series, if not the best.
>>290005567Kishimoto...
>>290006602>Kishimoto didn’t shy away from portraying the rulers as scummy manipulatorsFucking lmao, I can't tell if this post is genuine or not.
>>290006711I feel like Kisame is where he fell short with Nagato and Itachi. With Itachi, he went with the “genocide is good” angle, and with Nagato, he ended up with an overly dramatic story that had a poor payoff. And he made Jiraiya look like a jerk in the end. As for Kisame, we already know how the Cloud Village was plagued by tragedy and infighting. And that’s true for the Leaf Village too, but instead of portraying a “greater good,” he depicts it exactly as it is: ugly backstabbing and killing. No one came across as a bad guy there because there’s no attempt to redeem the people of that place. Everyone is a piece of shit, without exception.
Someone should post the next chapter. This shit boring.
>>290001020>>290003212>>290003928So many speedreaders.
>>290002614>>290007308Should have included you
>>290002638That's because Nagato was trained by THE GOAT
Orochimaru is finally gonna get his arms back. He has been gimped since chapter 137.
>>290007033I might actually this time, 2 chapter weekends could be fun, but OP will probably just redump anything that's not on his schedule.
>>290007565I think we should just let the thread die, but we all know someone refuses to let that happen nor make this general better.
>>290007849It's a daily
>>290000597It really is fucking horrendous how much Kishimoto hates women. You just know he desperately wishes he could have Tsunade being a burden in this fight as well, so he's doubled up on the Mei uselessness to compensate.
>>290008266>daily dead generalI'm not going to argue with you. Enough people have already suggested posting more during the war.
>>290000597Normally I think the sexism allegations that all shonen authors receive are overblown. It's manga for boys, so of course the men are the important ones who do important things. The women aren't hated, just not prioritized.But the way Kishimoto writes women really does come across as hateful.
>>290005555It gets worse.
>>290000661Wait a fucking minute.How does that jar still have kyuubi chakra in it?Wouldn't Kinkaku have been un-summoned?
>>290009440No
>>290000535>>290000548This is a subconscious representation of how Sasuke sees people. It's interesting that only Itachi and that old man are smiling at him. I assume that old man is the guy from the couple that used to give him cakes. And Mei and Ino don't look angry, I guess he remembered that Mei called him cute and complimented the Uchiha clan.
>>290000535Has Sasuke ever even met Shisui? >>290009542I think you're reading into it too hard anon
Not trolling, but is this the worst daily this board has had? I've been in a few but this one is just booty cheeks.
>>290009953Might be. There's 2-3 toxic posters(OP included) and it doesn't help the last stretch and arc is one of the worst of any manga.
>>290009440>Wouldn't Kinkaku have been un-summoned?He's still stuck in the jar until it's released. A better question is how the Gedou Mazou uses their chakra while they are still sealed in the pot and gourd. Maybe Tobi remotely released them, but not Samui and Atsui?
>>290009440>>290010091You people have the most boring discussion about pointless plot fails.
>>290000615>>290003372For some reason, they disappeared after he released himself but came back when he left for the other battlefield.
>>290009953Easily
>>290000535Rare moment where we see Sasuke's inner monologue
>>290005366When Minato beats his ass he seals away his ability to do anything with ninetails, though I assume with the Rinnegan he should be able to fix that
>>290011384>Why is it so dead?This is its natural state.
>>290000597>the Mei humiliation continuesOnly good thing about this battle desu
>>290000824How would you feel, knowing the leader of your village and General of your troops was such a pathetic pussy ready to give up? Mist village is such a joke. What did Mei expect? To run away and come back later? If you're going to die anyway, at least go out with a bang instead of whining like a pathetic little bitch. Superb writing Kishi.
>>290012123Fucking Mist village got soified after the Bloody Mist era ended and a woman became the leader
>>290009372It's the way he always has to make a point of the sole woman in these kinds of fights not actively being allowed to do anything, or failing to do so. Mei in particular, though, has had an actively demonizing portrayal so far as one of the Kages. Like the fear alone she has here makes me think she genuinely just doesn't deserve the title at all, it's embarrassing for her but in a way that doesn't make her sympathetic.
>Madara chapter>150 repliesWhat killed the hype and Hashirama?
>>290001404And it doesn't matter because later we see 10 tails absorbing the alliance ninjas and complete itself somehow anyway
>>290000723>With Kabuto out of the picture, please focus on these 3 Uchiha wankers!
>>290000615did that really need a full page
>>290004047He's cool and relatively strong + has connections to Itachi, that's it.
>>290012639Drama posting + shitty arcor OP got tired of samefagging after being exposed for a no-life as pathetic as the Sasukefag. yes I'm aware this comment talking about it is part of the problem
>>290007308That's kinda weak for something supposed to be twist.
>>290013097How is it supposed to be a "twist"? It had 0 foreshadowing or setup. It's just an asspull. Sasuke's old teammates stumbling upon some random scroll with vital information while trying to find their teammate who left them for dead is some of the most contrived writing in the arc.
>>290013177Maybe not a twist per se, but rather a mystery to keep readers guessing for a few chapters.
>>290013243Also "All-knowing" or "the ones who know everything" is a weird way to describe the Hokages.
>>290013243Idk. It's bad writing the more you think about it. Suigetsu finds the scroll and comments how it can change the tide of the war that they had no reason to care or even know about. This means he knows the previous Hokage were trapped in the Death God. He then believes Sasuke would have the means and desire to unseal them from the Reaper's stomach and then have the means to summon them with edo tensei. It's so bad. I'm surprised it's not shit on more. Seems people kinda just forget about the entire sequence.
>>290013369It's just contrived. No reason why Sasuke wouldn't just call them the Hokage.
>>290000690Wait, shouldn't Sasuke still think that Madara is the masked man? Shouldn't Jugo also think that? Why do they already know who this Madara guy is?
>>290013960Do you have 0 reading comprehension?
>>290013996Yes, explain how I'm wrong
>>290014008Jugo has been getting all his intel on the war from the wildlife, which is why he's talking to a bird about the edo Madara still being alive. Why does Sauske know an edo Madara was revived? Who knows,? It makes sense Jugo knows though, speedreader.
I still find it really funny how Itachi tried to turn Sasuke into a golem for Konoha and neither Naruto nor Sasuke found anything wrong with that upon finding out about it. Like, how do people not make fun of this scene more often? That's almost as bad Itachi mindraping Sasuke in part 1 when he's supposed to be a loving brother.
>>290014865Yawn, what are you looking for with this comment? Nothing to engage with. Nothing to expand upon. Just a waste of space. Thanks for the bump, I guess.
>>290012854wait, how was Itachi planning to stop Kabuto alone? at that point, he at least knew that Kabuto had become powerful to summon 50 kage level edo tensei or higher!
>>290015516Wait, why are you such a retard?
i agree women were abused by Kishman, but the Mei criticism has never made sense to meShe sees a powerful enemy, she sees that she and her allies are handicapped (no acid mist, small Byakugo and weakened body, 1 arm, broken back, small sand access) akd then advises them to retreat.if they did, Tsunade would restore her body to Pain Arc level (fast enough to intercept CST), heal A arms, restore Ohnoki backside and supply Gaara with enough chakra to use village sized sand again. Then they get back in the war far more capable, possibly enough to defeat ET.it was an excellent tactical suggestion on her part
>>290015579the premise of your question undermines itare you a retard as well?
>>290015716>Just 1 single retard clinging to it? Ramen. Please. Do better.What's the alternative?
>>290015763Stop replying to the retard. That way you'll deprive him of his one joy in his pathetic life.
>>290015797>Stop replying to the retardI replied to (You), now what?
>>290008362At least he isn't Ohba.
>>290015625It's just like the fight against Orochimaru. Sasuke is trying to think up a plan to get them out of there and Naruto punches him in the face for it. And then Naruto immediately gets got by Orochimaru and knocked out, forcing Sasuke to stay and protect his sorry ass. Which gets Sasuke bit.Naruto characters never retreat because that's cowardly. Even if they're nobody fodder Genin they never retreat from a Kage level threat because that would be giving up.
>>290016414In the Orochimaru fight the thing was that Naruto realized Oro wouldn't let them get out alive even if they gave him the scroll
>>290016449No he didn't realize that, he just said he might not. As in "your plan might not work so let's try my plan of jobbing horribly."
>>290012639The thread was NEVER organic
>>290014865Kishimoto is a strange srrange man
>>290016414>>290016449An exception would be Neji/Gai saying they wouldnt be useful against Pain.This trend is one thing that undermines the ninja archetype
>>290016687and Hidden Mist, which Mei has, would allow them to avoid Madara. If he uses ST, it blows them away as well.Tsunade could also allow them to escape via Katsuyu, as could Onoki and Gaara via sand and lightening
>>290015625All the other Kage are fighting valiantly, while she is useless, pisses her pants and cries.She fails even at the one thing her skillset is designed to do MULTIPLE TIMES.
>>290016708Mei isn't suggesting a tactical retreat though, she's just making this face and doomposting.
>>290018016What happens if you doompost in real life?
>>290000957If Jugo can get some stuff from Sage mode he can probably detect him.
>>290018891People tell you to shut up (woman).
>>290000957The birds talked to the Itachi crows that know everything.
>>290001116He believed he was going to have it easy. Shit happened.
>>290000690Sauce's face is kinda funny there.
>>290000723I'm really confused, does Sasuke know about Tobi/Madara's "Eye of the Moon" plan at this point? Is he okay with Tobi wanting to put everyone under an eternal genjutsu?
>>290000986thanks op.
>>290000957>>290013960I think Sasuke learned about it from Kabuto when he explained the war to him before they started fighting. There's no excuse for Jugo though. Honestly the fact that Sasuke learned and reacted to the fact Tobi isn't the real Madara off screen is hilariously dumb.
>>290000548>no tentendisappointed....
>>290001474it appeared from time to time to frame the scene with her delicious breasts
>>290014865Naruto could be handwaved as him already being too deep into Konoha's cool-aid, Sasuke however is inexcusable since he was already mad at everything Itachi put him and himself through prior to fighting Kabuto.It's another "nobody can think badly of Itachi" situation
Unironically Kakashi should be the strongest in series by the end of the series. The dude already copied Guy's 8 gates which makes you a top tier by default. There's no reason he shouldn't be able to copy the Raikage's Lightning God Body technique when it's practically Full Body Chidori, and the 4th's Flying Raijin, and use them all together. He saw every one of those moves and is already a master of lightning, Raikage's body makes you invincible pretty much negating the self damage 8 gates does, and 8 gates gives you strongest in series chakra.Anything less than Kakashi being strongest in verse end of series is bad writing.
>>290021839Don't the 8 gates require special physical conditioning to pull off, which dooms you to be shit at ninjutsu and genjutsu because you need to focus entirely on taijutsu?Kakashi can understand the theory of the 8 gates, but that doesn't mean he can open all 8.
>>290022479No. Kakashi literally copied it from the Lee vs. Gaara and taught it to Sasuke. Guy also has other Jutsus. Lee was the exception because he just couldn't use ninjutsu and went to Guy.The catch was even though Sasuke could open the gates, he used more stamina since he didn't train his body as hard as Lee. But a previous Raikage fought for 3 days straight against the 8 tails before getting exhausted and falling on his own attack so clearly Lightning God Body comes with stamina hax anyways.
>>290022540Why did he have to see Lee to copy the gates when he was Guy's rival for 15 years?
>>290022582That's a good question. You see, Kishimoto sucks at writing and didn't think that far ahead of making Guy and Kakashi lifelong friends.Just like how there's only like 11 peers of Naruto's at the Chuunin exams arc for the Leaf village, yet for some reason during this war arc we're supposed to believe the Leaf somehow had 30,000 ninjas. Just don't question it and enjoy the ride.
>>290022540Kakashi doesn't have the physique to go beyond the first gate optimally.
Dumb fuck...
>>290022633I like how you're literally getting upset at your own head-canon and blaming Kishi for it.
Chapter 593: Orochimaru's Return
>>290026617I hate Jugo so fucking much
I hate kishi so fucking much.
>>290026909Shouldn't Oro be more mad at Sasuke after he tried to kill him
>>290026799>but I don't care at all about how Itachi tried to brainwash me into becoming a slave for the village I now hate more than everI just can't get over shitty Sasuke's character is. He's so irrational and retarded.
>>290026525It's the same guy that needs to bump these threads
>>290026593>We've only now surpassed our mentors. This is OUR time!!Wtf is this "we" bullshit, Suigetsu? What did you even do?
>>290026563>Orochimaru glazing after Itachi beat him with a standard genjutsu
>>290026642Nice “subtle” retcon, Kishi
>>290026702I wonder what body Orochimaru has right now. Is this a duplicate of his original body? Did he use Kabuto's stolen powers to make a clone of Anko with his own face?
>>290026722Neither have the readers at this point, Orochimaru
>>290026722
>>290026741No homo?
>>290027424All of the homo
>>290027360Kek
>>290026563Wait, so this implies that Hebi Sasuke was still weaker than a fully healthy Orochimaru who jobbed to a younger Itachi? And he still thought he could take on Itachi by himself? How fucking retarded is he?
>>290026720You should, Mei.
>>290027360
>>290026702It's probably his own chakra (curse mark) with his own flesh (Kabuto), so in a sense 100% Orochimaru.
>>290026593Suigetsu the voice of reason>>290026617The two autistic retards the universe has saddled him withHe should have left them to die against Bee
Kakashi got special treatment. >EMS even though he isn't an Uchiha>Blood match with an Uchiha for some reason, even though the series states that activating EMS is a huge deal>He managed to pull off a busted jutsu without special blood or a modified body.This one could be explained by saying you could share the hack with the owner of the other eye. But that creates continuity errors since it makes Orochimaru prepared for stuff like Suanoo and makes Danzo even more overpowered>He didn’t have any of the technique’s major drawbacksHe died in the Pain saga, but that felt a bit forced. Although I did like the aftermath with his father. It was meaningful even though Kakashi is a Konoha lapdog.Guy and other characters also got “writer’s pet” treatment. But Kakashi is just egregious. He shouldn’t have been able to keep up with Obito in general. They should have made the epic fight happen with someone else.
>>290026689>>290026702wow that was easy
>>290027812When did Kakashi get EMS?
>>290027913Kakashi managed to get Obito's body even though the series had previously established that an eye transplant was a big deal. Kishimoto's backtracking on his statements ended up creating a plot hole. There's no way Kakashi could have done it without Hashirama's blood. The series ended up making a big deal out of characters having Senju blood. Even Tsunade achieving Perfect Sage Mode hints at the fact that she is Hashirama's granddaughter.
>>290026762Orochimaru looks...different. did Kishi simply forget how to draw him?
>>290026833He looks weak and scrawny
Suigetsu was barely a character to begin with, but him helping Sasuke now when he has no reason to makes him even more of a walking plot device lol
>>290028316Suigetsu acts as Naruto's stand-in, uses cool water jutsu, and is just plain fun. Even though he doesn't have the flamboyance of early Sai. Early Sai is one of the top 10 best Naruto characters. It's like reading a different series.
>>290026992For a guy who just admitted he can come back from death thanks to the different curse marks he's made I don't think he sees it as anything more than a setback. That said, bringing him back at this point in the story feels stupid
>>290026909Why is Sasuke still wearing these Oro-era clothes
It would have been better if we got a chapter or two of Taka killing Konoha or Allied forces to find Anko instead of her being right there
>>290028539Impossible, Sasuke is a dindu nuffin good boy, he only attempts murders and crimes but he doesn't really commit them.
>>290028539There’s already enough chapters in this arc where nothing interesting happens and it’s about to get worse once we hit the 600 chapter mark. We really don’t need to spend more time with these characters that no one cares about.
>>290028594Unless you're a filthy Kumer Cloudmonkey
Kishi did irreparable damage to this series with these bullshit "resurrection" jutsus
Why the threads so dead now?
>>290026642>curse mark is totally also a type of sage mode all alongdon't mind it follows exactly NONE of the rules set during Naruto's training in the Pain arc.
>>290028594Attempted murder is still reprehensible and should be treated with as much severity as murder itself.
>>290026722>you can remain "alive" and store your consciousness in a fucking chakra mark to get revived laterkek, the worldbuilding of this manga is something else.
>>290027812Kakashi's powerlevel has been the most flexible shit in the entire manga. He is perpetually as strong as needed for the plot at any given moment.
>>290026909So Sasuke goes from their hideout to Konoha, only to come back to the battlefield in the same night? Thanks Kishi for your faithful world building.
>>290026992Wouldn't make sense for this Orochimaru to even know that. As he says here >>290026722 this copy's consciousness was stuck inside Anko's shoulder until just now. He shouldn't know what Sasuke did to the main body.
>>290026702SHAMONE
>kill off Orochimaru unceremoniously without him doing anything>kill off Orochimaru unceremoniously again>remove Anko from the story completely>200 chapters later bring back Anko so she can get defeated within one page>use her exclusively to unceremoniously bring back Orochimaru, who she hated and abused herI thought he was a 2/10, but Kishi is legit a 0/10 writer.
>>290029140Didn't word get around that Sasuke killed Orochimaru to the point where even Jiraiya and Tsunade learned about it?
>>290027812Take away that eye and what does Kakashi have left?
>>290026702Suigetsu hiding behind Kabuto is a top moment.
>>290027812In the war arc everyone can just do whatever with all rules going out of the window. It's not really specifically Kakashi.
>>2900291951,000 jutsu that he totally knows and could use.
>>290029169Kakashi made more characters than he knew what to do with, so too many of them are introduced only to do one thing and then discarded until they maybe need to do one thing again. He also wasted too much time doing pointless shit so despite the manga being 700 chapters, not much really happens. The entire war arc is such a ridiculous blur that it feels like a fucking fever dream. Keep in mind the War Arc is like 1/3 of the entire manga and barely anything memorable even happens in it.
>>290029298>Kakashi*Kishi, I meant.
>>290026617Juego so fucking stupid god damn
>>290029298>War Arc is like 1/3 of the entire mangaIs there anything in shounen that is genuinely more ridiculous than Naruto's war arc? I mean, people make fun a lot of how long the Goku vs Frieza fight is and the whole 5 minutes thing, but even that has got nothing on this.
>>290027812Obito let Kakashi win. Getting a Chidori in the heart was just as according to keikaku.
>>290028086The bot has gone insane.
>>290027620Me too orochimaru
>>290028539Nah jugo and suigestu are nothing burger characters. I rather focus on moving this slow ass war where nothing happens but hype and aura moments
they actually posted fraudruto vs Neji who was right about everything on the main channel
>>290028539It would've been better if Anko didn't reappear only to be used to revived Orochimaru.It would've been better if Orochimaru hadn't been revived at all.Or any other character for that matter.
>>290026642Hell yeah Ankochads we get to do something!
>>290029880>N-Naruto... I was wrong... you aren't pathetic loser scum... you are actually Ninja Jesus and will save Konoha against your Evil Boyfriendbrother's past reincarnation along with your Evil Boyfriendbrother... all thanks to Papa Ninja God's free handouts... I should have never... doubted... you... please impregnate my cousin... AAAACKKKK!what did Neji mean by this
>>290030013It meant he gave his life for the keikaku. Show some fucking respect.
https://youtu.be/v2tkz92eG_E?is=Ydyz7MTGpgX_pAyDA blast from the past
>>290026593Whose Suigetsu's master?Also weird for Kishi to bring this forgotten theme up again when he's clearly not going to follow through with it.
>>290026741for some reason I thought orochimaru came out of anko's seal and was already 'reformed' into just observing sasuke's path but I guess he's still being a bit of creep huh
>>290029470In all honesty, does anything memorable happen from after the Pain fight onwards?>naruto panic attack>world peace somehow achieved overnight>guy kicks assEverything else afterwards feels like a blur. There's about 270 chapters where there's maybe like 5 memorable things.
>>290026617>>290026642This is some pillar man shit.Also>Kimimaro willsI wish Kimimaro fucking killed you for aiding Oro's killer.
>>290026909>>290026926>>290027294>>290027320Arigatou, OP!
>>290030130I personally love how hard this video buck broke Naruto fans. Most of the fanbase can't even decide which argument they want between "Naruto was always a hardworking underdog" and "ackshually the series was never about hard work, that was only Lee's thing".
>>290027320cheers for dumping
>>290027620Someone edit this to say "We" instead of "i"
>>290026617>>290026593>>290026563>>290026550Regardless of sauce's unvoiced plan, he's really being a cunt here for no reason while ordering people around, and suigetsu trying to be reasonable. Even after his family catharsis why is Sasuke being a right cunt here?
>>290030222>jugo's entire character is "muh kimimaro">kimimaro is revived>does nothing and is taken out again>jugo never meets himGod damn Kishi didn't give a fuck about 95% of his characters, did he?
>>290002638And Madara took all the tailed beasts into the gedo statue in a few minutes with his rinnegan.
>>290030199I can only think of one.
>>290030259the funniest thing is that it was Uchihatards who got the most butthurt by that video because what they are arguing is basically "the show was never about Naruto but the Uchiha wank" and they are projecting that into "it was never about hard work bro, i-it was about talk no jutsuing Uchiha cunts"
>>290030013Fun fact: Kishimoto originally intended for Neji to tell Naruto to leave the window open for when he turns into a bird, but Editor san unfortunately said no.
>>290030199
>>290030341Part 2 really should have been about Naruto trying his damndest to protect the other jinchuriki, giving us an excuse for him to travel the world, make connections, make friends, enemies, rivals, and actually expand on the "shinobi world" we hear so much about and interact so little with. You have 9 uniquely designed characters, with unique powers, and 6 of them do absolutely nothing and job offscreen.
>>290026525Where's the headcanon in that post?
>>290030314Suigetsu didn't meet his revived brother either btw
>>290030341You don't understand, I NEED to sex Yugito...
>>290030314they function like video games. when kishimoto needs to draw something is like the character is activating a switch and based on his programming and his class does the skill and you watch the cutscene
>>290030438>literal ninja prep + big jutsu + unique jutsu + observation + planned like a ninja to hard counter Obi>lost to bullshitIt's not fair bros. It's not FAIR
>>290030575What happens if you don't?
>>290030615I would end up like that resentful brown sasuke poster dude and ruin threads, only with my unsatisfied libido instead.
>>290030489so... this is the power of the descendants of the senju...
>>290030448Yeah, it would've played right into Kishimoto's strengths in designing fun or interesting characters and creative worldbuiling (though not consistent) too, so it's a real shame.>>290030608Indeed. From what I see there's even two big jutsus there. I really like her ability, so it sucks she barely even got to use it.
>>290029470>48 hours is a 1/3 of the mangaNo, no I don't think there is anything as ridiculous.
>>290030642Oh my, who could want that?...
>>290030313That's one of the things about Sasuke that I really hate. He never really stops being a cunt nor does he ever realize the things he did in the past were wrong. Even now he still goes "I HATE THE VILLAGE MORE THAN EVER!!!" even though he just learned that Danzo was the only one responsible for the death of his clan, and not even Hiruzen or the other 2 boomers wanted the massacre to happen. Like why tf do you still hate the village when the main reason the massacre is being held a secret is cause the public would be outraged over the state being the one that ordered it? You already killed Danzo, and the other 2 old fucks weren't even in on the plan, and you STILL don't give a shit about Tobi being partially responsible for the genocide.
>>290030988This is a great picture!
>>290030988Strangely fitting picture for the discussions at hand.
>>290030705>so it's a real shame.This is just what hits the most about Naruto. Absolutely wasted potential. An interesting premise on what could have been a more interesting would with what could have been more interesting characters and more interesting fights all with the backdrop of a more interesting overarching plot. But instead all of it is immensely wasted. There's a parallel universe where Naruto kills Haku in their first mission, gets blood on his hand, and the story takes a hard left turn from there instead of what we got.
>>290030994>or the other 2 boomers wanted the massacre to happen.Oh they wanted that, they were just not as passionate about it.
I miss Itachi.
>>290029140So the other Orochimaru was sealed forever? Is this something new? I don't remember this part at all..
>>290031698It's basically just a horcrux. Kishi showing his hackness again.
>>290031698>So the other Orochimaru was sealed forever?Original (as "original" as you can really get with Orochimaru, I suppose) was absorbed by Sasuke, then extracted and sealed inside Itachi's susano-o
>>290027294... does all this mean sasuke talked no jutsu orochimaru?>>290027320thanks op.
>>290032009Orochimaru just doesn't have motivation to do anything other than what the plot requires anymore.
>>290027592>this implies that Hebi Sasuke was still weaker than a fully healthy OrochimaruYeah. That's the reason Sasuke ganked Orochimaru while he was bedridden.>And he still thought he could take on Itachi by himself?Yup. Because he's an Uchiha and only an Uchiha can beat an Uchiha, was probably his logic.>How fucking retarded is he?Extremely.
>>290029470>>290030849>48 hours is a 1/3 of the manga>No, no I don't think there is anything as ridiculous.Washizu mahjong in Akagi is the king in time dilation.26 volumes (3/4 of the series) released over 20 years, for a few hours in story.
85 more days (:
400 chapters - 2 days in the manga2 days of uchihatards doing mangekyo after mangekyo after susanoo and then the series ends
>>290032605life is but a mangekyo
I miss Jiraiya
>>290026689How the fuck does he know how to do that.
>>290032786ninja magic of talented uchiha individuals you wouldn't get it
>>290001689>>290029169>use her exclusively to unceremoniously bring back Orochimaru, who she hated and abused herY'know, I never thought of it that way, but yeah, that's genuinely fucking vile kek.
I miss good Naruto threads
>>290032850nah he was actually the coolest and greatest teacher, and she's a female so it doesn't matter to draw the scenes
>>290032605>over a year in real life for just two days in the storySo this is what Kakashi had to go through with the Tsukuyomi. It truly is hell.
>>290032893Never happened.
This is a good thread.
>>290032981Oh, they used to be good a few years ago before the forced general and this daily.
maybe the real Tsukuyomi were the shitposts we exchanged along the way
>>290033456Shippuden is a Kakashi's Tsukuyomi Nightmare Itachi trapped him.Like a......premonition.
>>290032215And it was absolute kino.
Could Naruto use a miniature rasenshuriken (like one so small it's barely able to be seen by the naked eye) directly on Sakura's womb to destroy JUST her ability to give birth but not cause her death? And SHOULD he have done so after Sakura's fake confession? I like to think when he'd use it, he wouldn't shout his jutsu name like he normally does but instead whisper it very quietly, sombrely, to match the physically small scale of the jutsu and the regret of having to annihilate his friend's uterus for trying to trick him with her confession.
>>290033787he would never do that to Sasuke's wife. he promised to his rival's obsessive fangirl to bring him back so they could have sex
>>290033787I misread that as "Sasuke's womb" too many times.
>>290034017That promise is exactly why he'd consider the miniature rasenwombreaker in the first place. By confessing her love (even falsely) she's made the heretical mistake of betraying Sasuke (peace upon him) and befouling her promise with Naruto.I know denying her the joy of bearing Sasuke's (pbuh) child is incredibly harsh, but that just reflects the severity of the sin.
oh shit we're doing another readthrough?this was the best from covid times
>>290034770We're already at the worst part...
don't let the fact that the awakened sharingan can summon a 300 ft tall chakra mech or create inextinguishable flames or make someone experience 1000 years of torture in 1 minute distract you from the byakugan still being the superior eye
>>290028992More likely yet another forbidden jutsu.
>>290026909>Please be hype for Sause to join the war>Even though all he did was kill the main white Zetsu and bunch of other Zetsus. >And was barely support for the Kabuto fight>Please be hyped....
>>290026563how strange to bring up orochimaru's sealed arms literally 400 chapters after that plot point was last relevant. I remember back when the chapter first came out everybody was so confused about where this suddenly came from all of a sudden
>>290026642which village is Jugo from?
>>290026866so orochimaru knows about tobi manipulating sasue too all of a sudden, even though that didn't start until after he was sealed into the totsuka? I know he said he's been watching through Anko, but it's not like Anko was really involved in anything either
>>290035861Naruto characters are all all knowing. They know EXACTLY as much as Kishimoto does. Remember Deidara telling Sai he was a lousy Sasuke replacement? Naruto is genuinely one of the worst written manga ever in that aspect. People all complain about muh war and stuff (and they're not entirely wrong to do so) but somehow this is never brought up even though it's just as bad.
>>290032850Every character connected to Oro gets screwed over so bad it's comical, while Oro gets to live his best life. The more innocent they are, the worse their fate is.>Hiruzen was too soft on Oro, and murdered as a thanks (prolly deserved it though)>Zaku's team was betrayed and sacrificed by Oro in the failed Konoha crush>sound 5 sacrificed their lives to bring Oro the young sexy Saucegay body, which again failed so they died pointlessly>bonus points for Kimimaro who was already on death's door ready to pass away peacefully high off morphine, but Kabuto tricked him into a pointless suicide. Even Oro was appalled by Kabuto's villainy. Kimimaro probably enjoyed it though thanks to the stockholm syndrome so it evens out I guess>Anko's original goal was to bring Oro down, but instead she got clowned on by Oro, sidelined hard, oneshotted by Oro's disciple, her unconscious body was used by Oro's disciple to make his evil ninja zombie army stronger with Oro's chakra, then Oro's former disciple used her body to bring Oro back because he wanted to chat or smshit. Oh yeah, and then she got fat. The end.>Yamato, an orphan who miraculously managed to survive Oro's deadly experiments and flee was ordered to return to Oro's lair to waste the last dregs of his youth watching Oro dick around with his shota harem>Kabuto was almost as bad as Oro so he got a happy ending too, but tragically Oro's dna turned him into an ugly bastard>Sauce had to settle for pinkshit and he's Konoha's bitch now. Truly a fate worse than death.>Mitsuki was introduced as Bort's rival and Oro's successor, then sidelined comically hard and fast>Konohamaru had to train the spawn of the faggot who killed his grandpa>Sasuke's minions were abused by Oro but managed to escape, in the end they all return like a battered housewife>Jiraiya was outlived by his rival>Tsunade lost her man, her family, her smile, and all her eggs, Oro was rewarded with a big happy family (with benefits)>Log who?
My name is Uchiha Uchicha, strongest of the Uchiha
>Page 9So you not in the necrobumping mood today? What gives?
will kishi ever let any of his characters actually die?
>>290036217What makes this even funnier is that, while almost every character in this manga gets a super grandiose death where they proudly go out smiling as they die for whatever cause they have, pretty much all of the children that were groomed by Orochimaru (Dosu's team and the Sound 5 basically) die in the most gruesome and undignified ways in the whole story. This is also probably because Part 1 was grittier (and better) than Part 2, but the stark contrast between how all the Sound 4 members die and how most Akatsuki members die is fucking wild.
>>290037470Zaku really just did want to make Orochimaru proud of him.
>>290000711>Suigetsu, I'm leaving
>>290036217>sound 5 sacrificed their lives to bring Oro the young sexy Saucegay body, which again failed so they died pointlesslythis one doesn't seem egregious? They were sent on a dangerous mission. They succeeded on that mission albeit at immense cost. Three years later, the result of a plan downstream of that mission ended up not working. That is not a mark of oro mistreating his subordinates, that is pretty standard military stuff.
>>290027320thanks, OP!
>>290026833Kishimoto desperately tried to sell this as some deep philosophical contemplation and it's just not
>>290038082Well, it COULD be given the right worldbuilding, analyzing different cultures, a sense of identity and projection... but this is such an incredibly simple, surface level "world" that there's nothing here.
>>290037838Weren't the Sound 4 mind controlled to obey Orochimaru through their snake roids, though?
>>290033787Cringe
>>290034770It's only 1 chapter a day and the threads are ass. Don't bother.
>>290035377He's not even joining the war yet. He has to complete his side quest first.
>>290035861He says he absorbed all of Kabuto's intel later on. Don't worry.
>>290037108Threads regularly reach page 10 before he decides to save them
>>290037838>That is not a mark of oro mistreating his subordinatesSucks to be them though.Were they even working for Oro willingly, or manipulated/kidnapped and then unable to leave? Oro likes to steal kids.>They succeeded on that mission albeit at immense cost.No, the goal was to bring Sasuke in time for Oro to possess Sasuke's body. They failed, so Oro almost died and had to possess the body of some random jobber. 13 year old Sasuke was probably too weak to resist the body hijack jutsu, and even if the plan was doomed to fail from the start that just makes the whole thing worse.
>>290038462fair
>>290038462Does Oro even remember all the kids that died because of him in Boruto?
>thanking yourself
>turn on the Naruto English dub>forget how much Naruto spams "Believe it" in part 1Forest of Death should still be fun, but I don't know how I ever tolerated the English dub as a kid.
>>290036217>Oh yeah, and then she got fat.in fairness this wasn't Oro's fault. she was on a path to largeness from her very first appearance.
>>290026702>WAPWet Ass Pedosnake
>>290039526Is that Sakon's new name? I can't keep up anymore.
>>290037108Dumb Tardkuposter.
>>290038277No, it's implied they went with him willingly because there was no better option and they couldn't get out.
>>290000000
>>290039632Wasted
>>290026992He's into this shit
>>290033787>>290034521Kishimoto, what the fuck is wrong with you?
>>290039915Cringe
>>290026617Funny how Jugo doesn't give two shits Sasuke "killed" Orochimaru, even if Kimimaro for sure wouldn't have liked that. Also it's a waste Jugo didn't meet him again.
>>290040031No.
>>290040165Jugo is a plot device and barely a character. His only purpose is to heal Sauske and make his Susan utilize Senjutsu later on.
Why is this daily so bad?
>>290040692>would've lost to a little girl in CQCKEKruto...
>>290038411page Ten is best page
These threads really are tumbleweeds when OP isn't having a melty. Someone should post the next chapter
>>290026909I wonder if Kishi just went "lol fuck it I've already brought almost every character back from the dead might as well go all they way"
>>290042345
comfy thread
Translator note: comfy means shit
>>290042811Digits don't lie
>>290042811>>290042841Makes it even comfier when I know you're always on standby here to entertain us. Keep up the good work.
>>290042877>us
>>290042877I agree, it always amuses us to see you constantly necro-bump your dead shitty threads lol
>>290042877Digits don't lie
>>290042811Digits confirmed threads are comfy(shit)>>290042877Digits further confirm threads are shitBased digits
Even comfier now. Thanks.
>>290032850Why did kishi hate her so badly anyways ? What a waste of a great design. I remember anko fans fuming over how she was treated lol
>>290000632Bee-sama is so strong...
(: i can't wait for his next meltie
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>>290043125Is funny how easy it is
>>290027798>Suigetsu the voice of reasonAlways been.
>>290026866Orochimaru's line is so unintentionally funny here
>>290039555Kek'd. Digits approved
>>290026689>ZLURP
>>290029140Maybe the curse marks are connected. The whole thing is crazy enough to begin with and still not the craziest shit in this manga.
>>290043125Did he ever actually give a reason why he ostensibly dumps only 1 chapter?
>>290033029Ramen to that!
>>290043595Something something, it's called a daily, something something, stopping the shitty general from coming back something something, fake polls...that's all i got.
/nart/ lost
>>290043710Idk, the fact you bring it up daily seems to indicate otherwise
Like I said. Comfy.
>>290043842(:
does anyone remember or have the source of that parody gay doujin where it had the hidden ass village or something and the statues in the valley of the end were flipping each other off?i need a laugh and i regret not saving those
>>290043922>does anyone remember or have the source of that parody gay doujinWAP...
>>290043489The curse marks probably operate like Naruto's clones. Also when the snake that got away from the sword of Totsuka got burned up, its copy of Orochimaru's consciousness main have gotten distributed to the curse seals. The silly part is Orochimaru being conscious enough to hear everything while Anko was out cold.
shart lost
>>2900435951 chapter is the norm for dailies.Even the One Piece daily was 1 chapter per day, and One Piece is a lot longer than Naruto.
>>290043980Yes, we all know Ramen only did this because One Piss did it and it shows you all have never been in a good daily.
>>290043960Hey, don't steal my line
>>290043947It may be just an urban legend but I've heard comatose people can sometimes hear what people say to them. But I like to imagine Oro also using the mark as a chakra wiretap for his purposes.
The moment Itachi's character got wrapped up, suddenly Kishimoto's massive hateboner for Orochimaru dissapeard and now he's back again.Weird
>>290044179>oh no, I got rid of Itachi for good... better bring Orochimaru back in case I need him Edo Tensei'd again later!
>>290044179He needed Orochimaru to get the previous Hokage
>>290044336couldn't Sasuke just genjutsu Kabuto's vegetable body to do it again if Itachi could make him undo the Edo Tensei
>>290044336Yeah, it would've been literally impossible to write this story in a way where the hokage are revived without bringing Oro back (or even crazier, reviving every character in history is not part of the plot).
why was Oro not interested in the war? both Akatsuki and great villages were hunting him
>>290045330Because Oro represents the reader and he knows it's shit
>>290044859Kishi remembered that Edo Tensei requires living sacrifices and can't make Sasuke a murderer (unless it's that one Cloud guy that you're not supposed to remember)Zetsu work for Edo but he was writing it weekly and hadnt thought of that yet
>>290030608>lost to turning 25
>>290000526kishimoto for some reason loses his ability to write once he reaches ninja war arc
>>290046625He didn't really have it before, but in the war you can tell there's not one left to keep him in check and tell him when his basic ideas are completely retarded.
>>290044036I've been in pretty much every daily for the past couple of years and this one has only been bad because of the melties in every thread. Not because it was one chapter a day.
>>290030185kisame
>>290042763
>>290047894kek