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>>290115501This would have made Maurice sting even worse. Redmond is a very poor judge of character.
>>290115652>forgive me
>>290115855Edward would have killed him anyway.
>>290115623>>290115640>>290115652based action, if not a little off on the message>>290115726cringe hypocrite
>>290116029I feel bad for the fag that has to do Harcourt's laundry.
>>290115603He really lucked out with Harcourt.
>>290116071>>290116084>>290116100>>290116118I get this is meant to show Sebastian analysing Ciel getting taken if he himself goes for the undertaker, but the sequence to demonstrate it here feels kinda awkward.
>>290116307Unless they had someone else they could have reported this to, they did nothing wrong. The school was said to be insulated from scrutiny from the police, hence why Ciel was sent. So that probably wasn't an option. The students placed under their care were in danger. If caving in the heads of the people responsible was the only recourse left to them, then that was the right decision.
>>290116002How the fuck did Sebastian not sense his lack of soul 2 feet in front of him
>>290115994Ciel can understand murder for a lot of reasons, but "they weren't taking school seriously enough" is a stretch even for him.
>>290116540It's a catch 22, they were dealt a bad hand
>>290116611While they made a big deal about tradition in their description of the events, it's pretty clear that their reaction was due to the harm being done to the students. If they'd merely caught Derrick, Agares, and the others drinking after lights out, they would not have had such an extreme reaction. Ciel saw this firsthand. Edward talks about fearing he could be like them. But he already beat the shit out of students for assaulting Ciel, right alongside Greenhill. So the "tradition" being upheld here is "don't physically abuse other students". Letting someone like Derrick become a prefect with Agares covering for him would have been very likely to result in numerous serious injuries and deaths. And it would have also likely become a persistent, self sustaining problem from then on since prefects have so much influence on who becomes the next prefect.
>>290116965>36Damn, that's young. I guess she didn't die of natural causes either, just like his dad.
>>290117030I doubt many Phantomhives do.
>>290116572Maybe the extra episodes fooled his soul-dar?
>>290116029Was this necessary?
brb
>>290116118While I understand everyone hating the "it was actually the Undertaker... AGAIN!" reveal, I just love that frame and that scene in the anime so I can't fully hate it.
>>290115486now this is what i call fag time
>>290115623>>290115652Based as fuck
>>290118091>'He alone must have known Vincent before Undertaker since the two met during their public school days'>Yet we know UT had ties with Ciel's grandmaSo was their relationship a secret?
This is it for the day until tomorow
>>290118660>tactics.png
>>290118139Yet another reason Greenhill did nothing wrong. Arden was nowhere near cute or pretty enough to be the Scarlet Fox prefect.
>>290117132Why would he help them?
>>290118679Thank you OP, this is personally my favorite arc of the series. Don't want to spoil much but I think it has the perfect balance of everything that makes Kuroshitsuji great.
>>290116397>>290116487:(
>>290118574here's the sex freak
>>290117181Absolutely.
>>290116842>Bare kneesScandalous
>>290116158Anons here would be delighted to wash his clothes, and his body.
>>290116041What did he mean by this? Would Vincent have let a boy that cute get eaten?
>>290115416I just remembered his long this goes on for. Is The Campania arc the peak?
>>290118644>>290118660This made me realize that Yana has been done an incredible work at not forcing nipponwank in the manga like most authors do.
>>290115715>>290115726Love CIel always tacking theatricals to next level.On an emotional side, I can understand the P4. And they actually do a good job. But they killed SIX dudes. Like, Arden was a piece of shit and there's a corrupt professor. But there were other solutions.Makes me want to reconsider how we saw them insofar.>>290115726I'm starting to wonder about UT's sense of humor and if something can be determined by how (and to what) he laughs at.
>>290115855That explains a lot about OG. Because that means all he longed about was his brother, that's how he's so detailed and indipendent despite not having a soul. - because unlike every other corpse, in this specific case we know he has no soul 100% since Sebastian's entry price was paid. IF UT is going via cinematic record and OG is so focused, it means the record was all, if not almost all about Ciel.Btw check Derrick cinematic record: there's a pic we saw in a chapter cover (another character was featured and btw the character was OG, not Ciel. There will be solid evidences for that in the future. The picture is the one with the flower crown.). According to the cinematic record, can we mark Derrick descent into evil because of the bad, terrible, evil alcohol he drank when underage?
>>290117369Yay, German arc
>>290121210>there were other solutionsThey definitely didn't look for other solutions as hard as they should have. But even if they had, I'm not sure things would have been much different. In fact, they might have gone even worse. The whole reason Ciel was there was because Arden was the son of someone close to the queen. And the queen herself is clearly evil. She shit tested Ciel, one of her more valuable servants, by trying to frame him for murder. So I doubt any legitimate authority would ever be willing to address Arden and his lackeys. But they very well could have fucked over the prefects and other students for having the temerity to complain.I half suspect the queen had something to do with the attack on the Phantomhives. Between her interest in a zombie army and her willingness to throw even mostly loyal subjects under the bus, I could see her getting up to something where she felt like Vincent was an unnecessary loose end.
>>290121514I think before that he was already getting in trouble with his dad and possibly sleeping with a maid, messing around with girls.
>>290117721It is not just the undertaker plot twist.For all what it is worth it, it goes one for way too long and while the boat story already had more humor than it needed, this one went off the rail.Yana was really committed to this tournament.
>>290117970That's a map of modern Germany!
>>290117970Wait a sec, that's a map of politically correct germany, not the 1880s german empire. Why is poland and czechia independent?
>>290121813He was probably sent here as a punishment so he could learn some proper Bri'ish manners
>>290118574Is it finally cunny time?
>>290118501Feisty peasant woman
>>290115897But Shinigami are supposed to be able to change the death, in some exceptional case! UT is a heretic, to some extent. Wasn't he able to do it, back then? Because it's clear he's talking about someone specific.Btw based Sebastian: the end is the end.
>>290116041>Quite unlike his predecessorsMan,, what kind of piece of shit VIncent must have been?
>>290116171Two out of two. It already happened on the Campania.
>>290116292Finally someone decent who gets it.
>>290115623>>290115640>>290115652Nice.
>>290117383This is the part I haven't seen as the animu yet.
>>290121210Can't say I feel bad about the other four. Derrick and Vice principal certainly deserved it
>>290116764In the early chapters, there was a chapter cover with a full built tower bridge.
>>290116920Seven lockets is consistent with the past
>>290117015>188XFuntom is extremely recent. It was founded after Ciel's birth.
>>290118375Why would you risk the servant's lives like that? how dare he.
>>290121813Kek. Shota x maid is great.
>>290122783There's nothing more exciting than spitting on the natural order of things. I'm on the Undertaker's side.
>>290120441Ciel's a fag in the closet.
>>290123521I don't think they'd be in any more danger here than at home. His servants have been attacked both when accompanying him and when staying home.
>>290122873Don't be a moralfag. They hardly had a choice.
>>290116355Is she hitting on him?
>>290121933>poland and czechia independentHow intolerable.
>>290123786Bullying more like. He hates being called little and I'm sure she knows that. Plus saying she'd never doubt him when he knows for a fact she does. But he can't object because she's the queen.
>>290118428I think this page will show up again in a far off future. Ciel's interrupted question seems very important. Btw love Ciel mocking Sebastian about sabbaths.
>>290123695If there is some weird infectious disease it is not like they could punch or shoot it.
>>290121813Nice.
>>290124150Could it have been about Sebation taking his own soul? Does Ciel actually know for sure that Sebastian plans to eat his soul?
>>290124910>Does Ciel actually know for sure that Sebastian plans to eat his soul?Keep reading
>>290118428Do you think Sebastian has taken part in those satanic orgies?
>>290115623>>290115640>>290115640Even if killing was too far there is legitimacy to their outrage yet it is only depict as them being slaves to their tradition.
>>290126321I agree. The problem here is not tradition, but isolation. Weston is almost completely cut off from the outside, and they refuse any involvement with the Yard or other governmental institutions. Combined with the P4 actually being lower in status compared to Derrick and the VP also being in it, it's no wonder they panicked and decided to take matters into their own hands. They're not blameless but they were dealt a really bad hand.
>>290126708It's a bit of a stretch but they were about two degrees of separation from the queen herself.Redmond could un-fag Derrick. The other fags would ask why at the gazebo meetups. Yada yada yada. Edward mentions how his brother in law can talk to the queen and let her know. Of course this hinges on Ciel and Queen Victoria giving a fuck about the still living Derrick and the corruption at the school.
>>290126321>>290126708One angle I can see for emphasizing their subservience to tradition is that the most realistic alternatives to killing Arden and company would have required dragging Weston through the mud. With no higher authority to go to, they'd have had to do something similar to Ciel with Maurice. Except they'd need to expose the crimes to society as whole to get anything done. And make Weston look like absolute shit in the process. Arden's actions would look pretty bad, but it would really be the institutional protection he enjoyed that would call into question the legitimacy and viability of Weston as the institution of learning and culture that the P4 so loved. So, in that sense, they put the life of Weston, an inanimate school, above those of the six people they killed. Personally, I see no issue with that. Anyone who abuses their power to make themselves immune to legal consequences has invited extralegal ones. But many people do not share that sentiment.
>>290115603He's Druitt's nephew after all.
>>290116355My Mancunian Candidate programming made me do it.
>>290116307And they were never heard from again. Not a single peep.
>>290127034That's another way to look at it. Yeah, they'd basically be gathering evidence and witnesses to work against their beloved school. Not to mention that while Arden and co's actions could be seen as the foolishness of a small group of students, it would be much harder to justify to society why the goddamn vice headmaster was assisting him.>With no higher authority to go to, they'd have had to do something similar to Ciel with Maurice. Except they'd need to expose the crimes to society as whole to get anything doneI'd argue that this situation is very different from Cole's, because Derrick was actually the heir to his family, whereas Maurice's influence only existed within the student body. I think it would've been much more difficult to find students who'll speak against him, since he had the vice headmaster on his side and the P4 are really just students in the end. They would need to fight way harder to expose their crimes, even without considering the school's reputation. Considering that, it's easy to understand why they ended up killing them.>Anyone who abuses their power to make themselves immune to legal consequences has invited extralegal ones.If the P4 were more ruthless, perhaps they could've imprisoned Derrick and the vice headmaster somewhere on the school grounds. And then it would just be a matter of waiting for someone like Ciel to come and inquire.>>290126917>Of course this hinges on Ciel and Queen Victoria giving a fuck about the still living Derrick and the corruption at the school.Which is kind of unlikely, you have to admit. Maybe Edward could've convinced Ciel though.
>>290115991How did they manage to keep this guy human looking for so long? Even Derrick was only able to say one sentence.
>>290116320All the prefects' fags became the new prefects except Harcourt, whose absence from any of the crowds seems conspicuous.>>290116397He reads random bullshit from noblemen he's never met and has no intention of responding to. We know Ciel lies to Sebastian, and that grin makes me think he is here. Not about not going back, but about not caring about the letter. I think he wants to discard it because he does care and doesn't want a reminder of the sort of life he's not allowed to have. And Sebastian, who apparently enjoys the flavor of despair, is happy to burn away any fond memories that Ciel could cling to.>>290128183He apparently had fairly extensive and concrete aspirations for the future. Given that the other examples of the same procedure were hooligans planning on coasting through life on their wealth and connections, it may not take much to exceed them.
>>290116584Greatly enjoyed the breadth of historic references in this chapter>>290116625>milk and honeyDamn brat need corrected!
>>290095808Zero respect for these "tactics" desu. They only work because he's the MC. If anyone else used them, they'd get vilified by the story like that Maurice guy.
>>290115623Wow he really went full retard there. While the bullying was of course horrible, he did not deserve to die. And the whole school and its rules truly are dogshit and are desgined to make people go mental.>>290115623>>290115640Nevermind full retard, these people are acutally just psychos. Far worse than the bully if they go out into society.
Another enjoyable read, thank you OP.
>>290128606>vilified by the storyAnon, Ciel is evil. The story is very clear about that. Cole wasn't even as bad as Arden. And not even Arden set fire to a building that a bunch of kids were sleeping in with their doors chained shut. To say nothing of Ciel's prior adventures in arson.
>>290116307>basically no punishment at allNo wonder this version of England is such a shithole.>>290116540>insulated from policeLiterally just another retarded tradition. They could've called the police just fine. And the students weren't in danger anymore at that time.
I'm a bit sad the vice headmaster was just for this arc, he was cute in a lobotomized sort of way.
>>290128426>All the prefects' fags became the new prefects except HarcourtIt could that he's too young to be perfect
>>290128606Are you just concern trolling for the kick of it?I have no idea why you're still reading at this point. Ciel won't suddenly become the character you think he ought to be anytime soon.
>>290128941I was feeling the same when I first read this arc, his design also reminded me of Claude.
>>290129124He definitely is. His previous complaints about Ciel are inconsistent with his current defensiveness towards the bullies.
>>290128915Sure, he's evil, but the story spends 99% of its time casting him in a great light. Meanwhile if some side character used his tactics they would get their comeuppance. I am probably expecting too much from a shotacon story though.>>290129124It doesn't take much effort to read through this, and supposedly it switches gears and gets better later on.
>>290129169>supposedly it switches gears and gets better later on.the tone of this volume is the same as the tone of the latest chapter, it's not gonna switch gear and become a different beast after the "big" reveal.If anything the pacing will suffer and get bogged down from Yana's want to thoroughly explain all the side-character's backstories. So you got that to look forward to.
>>290129421I can hear this perfectly in his english voice
>>290115623>>290115640>>290115652beyond based. they did nothing wrong. now when do we do this to politicians irl
>>290116189
>>290115640>everyone else stunned>violet immediately blocks the door she's the best one, good head on that lass
>>290130442>shebro, that's a boy-only school...
>>290123459I'd assume Ciel founded it if not for the part at the beginning where it said something about him massively increasing the company's profits, implying it already existed. But I can't see why his father would found a toy company.
>>290111562Thinking about it, Sebastian probably just went to Weston ahead of Ciel. They received the letter about Derrick during Easter. So possibly as early as mid March (technically Easter was on April 21 in 1889, but I don't know if Yana would have cared to get that precise). And it was all concluded on June 4th. It never says exactly when Ciel enrolled, nor the exact passage of time while he's there. But things moved pretty quickly. He could have easily been there less than a month. So if Sebastian went right away, he could have been there for several weeks before Ciel arrived.The headmaster, Undertaker or no, was able to fuck off on a trip for an extended period of time. So it might have been easier to create an opening for a new teacher than a new student after all. Just coerce the current one into leaving for a short time for a feigned family emergency or something. By the time Ciel arrived the students would already be familiar with "Mister Michaelis" and have no reason to associate the two.
>>290115726It's okay to burn down a house with a bunch of kids in it though because that's the fire killing them not you.
>>290130998It baffles me how people can get a character's gender wrong when said character is referred to accordingly in the manga AND the context makes it clear.
>>290132695He was still pretending to be a normal, non-murderous child >>290115806
>>290132695Yes, that's why he did it twice.
>>290130442anon...
>>290115665>"This was our only option"Cope
Beyond the shock of Ciel bringing up the kid they murdered, the P4 must have been pretty confused to hear Ciel call Derrick a friend. He had just made a big show of standing up against deceit and bullying and then starts asking about a friend who was even worse than Maurice.
>>290115790A RAZOR WHAT
>>290115855Can't really see what happened before he transferred into this school except he's living fine and have a strict (?) father
>>290123617If he wasn't lying I would agree with you but he's doing this so he could revive *them* so I'd argue he's telling truth here
>>290116189Can this motherfucker stop being so smug
>>290116307How anticlimatic
>>290116739kek, I thought it's because he's india
>>290134214its entirely possible that they thought derrick never showed ciel that side of him or was even playing him like he did with them.
>>290117515>>290117539virus?Fucking bio weapon in my 19th century british manga?
>>290134265Basically he began to pay the maids and other women for sex, then began to drink and smoke until his father sent him to school.
>>290134505I guess he's rotten from the beginning
>>290118574ENTER
>>290118679Thanks OPI like this arc during the time it was concluded, I hope I won't change my mind after re-reading it
>>290115369Is he the bully?
>>290115391So the descriptions really were all true, huh.
>>290115486What's that on their chests?
>>290115623Deserved.
>>290134799Drawings of wickets. The bullies were throwing balls at them. Cricket balls are made almost entirely of cork and weight around 150g, so getting hit with one must hurt really bad and even be enough to break a bone.
>>290115586>Violet's reactionKEK
>>290134505>Basically he began to pay the maids and other women for sexHoly shit, I haven't noticed this until now. And damn, he seemed to still be a child when he started doing that, that guy was truly rotten to the core since his birth.
>>290132695He just hates tradition.
>>290116071>>290116155Why copying nearly the whole page twice?
>>290135439It's easier duh
>>290117181Very much so, yes.
>>290117949Of all things the pronunciation is not that difficult
>>290136200He's just lazy.
>>290121210You can argue that Derrick and the Vice-principal were acts of rage caused by corruption etc.But after that they basically took over the school, so the other 4 could've been dealt otherwise.
>>290117031is that /mlp/
>>290115431Am I missing something? Who wrote this message?
>>290136640the bullied, duh
>>290136640One of his stooges he's having do his homework for him sent it as a coded cry for help
>>290136640One of the guys he used to pass poetry class.
I never really cared much for the emerald witch arcbut I'll tune in for the one after, which is the best arc
>>290136791It's not my favorite, but it has some of the best Sebastians scenes so I still like it quite a bit.
>>290118009>Wearing a towel in a sauna>In fucking FinlandShould've stoned him to death, really
>>290116307So, it they killed just for then sake of saving their reputation it would have been fine?
>>290135379>pays women for sex (doesn't force them or anything)I don't see how this makes him evil desu.
>>290126264Yeah, and he got sick of the taste, so now he's edging himself for a better one.
>>290116208>>290116223Souls must be very tasty.
>>290116427Do eat her skirt, please.
>>290137000Neither do I.
>>290134412That is probably how they rationalized it. But it is funny that the character Ciel was playing was the total opposite of his "friend" Derrick. And Ciel had just caught Maurice, who the P4 never did on their own.
I wonder if it was her editors idea or Yanda who really wanted a tournament arc.
>>290137624>YandaWow, can't believe he has gained this much influence over other manga.
>>290137624Probably her. Fujos love spokon.
>>290138113Next
>>290116818Cute Snake!
>>290117556Komm schon, Ciel, du schaffst das!
>>290118257Reminds me of the Elephant Man.
>>290118593>Special Thanks to You!They finally fixed it!
>>290118610>Ich freue mich, sie kennen zu lernen.Wrong!!!! It should be "Sie", idiots.
>>290118679Thank you, OP!
>>290129169>Sure, he's evil, but the story spends 99% of its time casting him in a great light.Imagine the day this anon learns the concept of POV bias.
>>290136445Going full cricket on Derrick, I sort of understand: you have worked your ass up to the top of fag tower and now this dude gets it for free, unpunished, plus he's possibly going to ruin what you did? His murder, I... sort of... get it. Let's pretend there's no other way to deal with him, which is bullshit but let's pretend.Agares... meh, we can safely say he's pure shit. Let's say he had to go because "tradition is absolute" and they've been brainwashed.But the other four? They killed them all. One. By. One. Violet wasn't letting them out, the other two were holding them and Greenhill was hitting them. At that point it stops being a passion crime, it's cold blooded. Even worse, they get those people had families, and don't show remorse. >>290115715Glasses speech makes zero sense whatsoever: first, they had alternatives. Second, they could have protected tradition and order by making a better job and preventing this situation, instead of trusting a single guy (and they didn't even fucking learn from that, since Maurice was doing the exact same on a lesser scale the following year). Third and most important if "ruffling feather" brings disgrace to the school... you resort to a cover up murder?Not Derrick and Agares. Those are passion crimes. The other four.A cover up murder by the very same people who are supposed to keep the standard is the apotheosis of hypocrisy.Ciel's answer IS the correct one. It's perfect, actually. The only problem... it comes from Ciel Phantomhive.
