Volume 63World of DreamsChapter 599: Uchiha Obitohttps://desuarchive.org/a/thread/274143504Previous thread:>>290142842
>>290164382God Hiruzen is so fucking oldHow do you live long enough to literally know every Hokage, and nearly all in their prime
behind the schedule retard
>>290164541NO WAY!
B&W
>>290164465>>290164486>>290164500>>290164512C U C KUCK
>>290164382>Kabuto's teacher used to be Anko's teammate meaning he was most likely Orochimaru's studentwhat did kishimoto mean by this? He's even wearing what could be construed as an early version of the oro-belt
>>290164541Holy shit!
>>290164541NO WAY
>>290164541And there he is...>>290164555Get fucked
>>290164500Seeing the chuunin vest in a gay little baggy makes it so much lamer.
Done!
>>290164382Anko is like 4 years old here btw.
>>290164382>>290164389>Anko, Kabuto's sensei and Hyuga guy jobbed off-screenAnko's century of humiliation.
>>290164407How did the candy last so long???>>290164419KWABito
The way this whole chapter is laid out kinda makes the reveal so fucking retarded. Don't start with a bunch of flashbacks that try to remind the reader who Obito is and instead show parts of his face and have Kakashi and Guy shit themselves as they realize its really him and then sprinkle the flashbacks among the pages
>>290164541>well that's fine, but I don't see how that affects... whaaaaaaaaat?
Post 600
>>290164529Imagine if after making it so fucking obvious, playing this sad Obito flashback it wasn't actually Obito.Would have been kino
>>290164541I do really like the look on Obito's face on this page.
>>290164541>>290164553>>290164785>>290164796Arigatou, OP!
>>290164767>>290164785Naruto be like:>Who the fuck is this?
>>290164512>An entire chapter in silence>It's a worst hits collection of embarrassment and sufferingI can't tell you just how divisive this reveal used to be.
>>290164368>all kid versions look, behave and have the exact same characteristics as their adult counterpartsI hate Kishi and every single fucking mangaka hack that does this shit
Really like the silent chapter. Proves my theory that Shariangan is always recording your life, and an upgraded Sharingan is a constant reminder to the Uchiha of a substantial loss. So, Uchihas are essentially people with trauma that focus too much on the "bad" in life.
>Anko isn't even allowed to get a W in a flashbackLmao
>>290164457no sharingan?
>>290164486I thought it was established that Kakashi was 6 when he became a chuunin. Is he 6 here? Wait a minute, then how old is Rin?
>>290165256He only unlocked it right when killing that one Iwa nin.
>>290164382Is it ever actually confirmed that Anko's team had Orochimaru as the leader? She could've been Orochimaru's student in the same way Naruto was Jiraiya's.
>>290164465>>290164486Did no one outside of Konoha participate in these exams? Also when are these even happening? Wasn't Kakashi already a jonin at 14 or something?
>>290165318oh right
>>290164541ENTERCOOLEST GUY
>>290164512"plan to suck Kakashi's cock while you watch"
>>290165343Oh there it is >>290164512, but did the entire generation take their chunin exams at 10 years old or something then?
>>290165049Kishimoto is good at these reactions. This face says everything. The defeat...The jealousy...The exhaustion...This is the face that Obito tried desperately to hide from the world. The face of a fucking loser.
>>290165325In the manga? No, other official material says so though.Honestly, Kabuto's sensei being there just confirms Orochimaru is the mentor to me.
Best chapter in a while by virtue of no senseless yapping.
>>290164354Obito discovered his latent feticism
>>290165122Still better than what they did with AAng & co. in Legend of Korra
>>290164541based
Obito Uchiha???Nobody could have seen this coming for the last 300 chapters. I am SHOCKEDI am glad it's the coolest guy, though
>>290164430THAT DAMN SMILE
>>290164354>no piece of toast shaped like a deadly throwing star in his mouth
>>290164430>the composition is supposed to place Obito's head like he's going to be the next Hokage>it's ruined by the empty space between Hiruzen and Obito because Kishi fucked up by drawing Minato on the mountain on the magazine release
>>290164389>helping an old lady which makes him late was something Obito actually did and Kakashi uses as an excuse years laterI assume there's a healthy amount of KakashixObito shippers?
>>290164938Worst part is that's exactly what we're getting the next chapter.
>>290165608That's kinda one of the lesser continuity breaks, so kinda weird they felt they needed to fix it.
>>290164430>all this silent shit for no reasonactually its probably because Kishi couldn't write compelling dialog for these scenes anywayYes just have characters point at the thing they are currently talking about, like normal people do
>>290165635Probably killed what little KakashixIruka shippers were left from the part 1 and early part 2 days
>>290164529why is naruto surprised.
>>290164500>>290164512Is this flashback supposed to make me feel something for Rin?Because right now I have a feeling she's an oblivious cunt.
>>290165733I think it's more like "who the fuck is this?"
>>290164512>Plans to spell out to the reader what is going on in the sceneNo, you see, its okay because they are retarded children. Remember when you were six and your best friend wrote down "Plans for the thing we are about to do" on a piece of paper and gave it to you instead of just telling you what was on their mind?Based Kishi exposing preteens to his cuckoldry fetishAbsolutely crashing the industry with these chapters. Some Jump exec in a suit was reading this shit in the previews before it went out, and for sure he had this thought>Kishimoto is in charge of our biggest IP currently, billions of yen are riding on him.>...He CAN finish this satisfactorily, right?
>>290165733Probably just surprised Kakashi and Guy know him.
>>290165733He's probably thinking>who the fuck is this guy
>>290165733Obito probably reminds him of his emo boyfriend, must be the dreamy eyes
>>290164512Wait, did Obito invite Rin to a date and she decided to invite everyone else to humiliate him?
>>290164541Wow, really? What a comfy surprise!
>>290164419Candy Granny almost saves the world there.
I wonder if Kishimoto expected everyone to hate Obito so much. But then again, it seems like zoomers do unironically think he's the coolest guy and think the twist is cuhrayzeeeee
>>290164541What the FUCK!?WHO COULD HAVE PREDICTED THIS
>>290165122I found hilarious how Araki in Jojolion didn't even bother to give the Higashikatas other clothes in Kaato's flashback after Jobin gets his disease transferred. Literally the same clothes they wear every day but smaller.
>>290165827Probably more like she told him to meet her there and he was going to take that opportunity to confess, not realizing that she invited a bunch of other people as well because the actual point of the meetup was to jerk Kakashi off for becoming a jonin.
>>290164529HOT TAKEKakashi with the mask still on, at this point of the story, is fucking ridiculous.This is supposed to be the most shocking moment in his life. He can't emote with just his eyes and the occasional sweat drops.
>>290164407>tried to use Fire Style with the candy on his mouthkek
>>290165920Was he supposed to take it off to show the readers his mouth?
>>290165948It was no less effective than regular fire style.
>>290164512>Going full edgelord for a girl completely out of his league The coolest guy, everyone.
>wholesome shota to blackpilled incel to nihilistic mass murdererName a worse character progression
Hiashi won.
>>290164529>>290164541Frankly the anime handled this better by suddenly switching from Obito giving Kakashi his eye to the old version of that split screen and the music stopping.
>>290164541>"YOU'RE MY FRIEND! AAAAAAAAAAAAAH!"
>>290165197He should have been Tobi
>>290164825Anko is in the same age group as Kakashi and the other jonin. she should be 12 or so.
>>290166058I think the anime handles nearly everything better. Sometimes I feel sorry for the animators for how little Kishi gives them to work with.
>>290166088The crux of the anime is definitely the filler.
>>290166106Can always just skip the filler episodes. Though that does skip at least one extremely imortant canon scene.
>>290165920That's not just a hot take it's a retarded take. People with full fucking helmets on can still emote properly just like Kakashi is doing.
>>290164541DANZO WAS OBITO?!
>>290165764she's a very realistic depiction of hypergamy, and Obito is a very realistic depiction of a beta orbiter.
>>290165122>Asuma already smoked back then
>>290166077She's 4 years younger according to the >>Databooks<<
>>290164382Is that Kabuto's sensei on Anko's cell?
>>290164541>g g g g g ga ghost from Kakashi's past?? LIKE, ZOINKS KURAMA
>>290166238Yes.
>>290164457>Guy 2-0 Obito
>>290164512oy vey my little bubalah, you need to foind yourself a nice Uchiha goyl, stop chasing afta those shiksa goyls
>>290164656Kishi overuses this smile>>290164785Oh wow. The worst character in the manga.
>>290164961>it was Rin using a transformation jutsu
>>290164610>>290164893>>290165417>>290166238What are you all talking about?
>>290164541Am I the only one who sees the similarity?
>>290164785Wow looks way better in B&W
>>290164368Kurencute
>>290166455It's a samefag
>>290166455Kabuto's sensei? The guy who was leading Oro's spy team.What's so hard to understand?
>>290165920Better? Does your underdeveloped brain comprehend the emotions of this page now?
>>290166455One of those posts is just talking about that Anko lost.
>>290164486Uooohbito bros..
>>290166088>>290166106The shippuuden anime is fucking garbage outside of the art house episodes by Hirofumi Suzuki, Atsushi Wakabayashi, etc. The art is atrocious. Watch soemthing like Madara stopping Solo Kings attempt at releasing his edo tensei. It's atrociously animated, with horrid art. Same thing with 163, Naruto sage mode vs pain. It's animated by literal Chinese and Koreans and is akin to ms paint with no animation for the biggest moment ever. You're delusional. Even Hirofumi suzki and Hayato date, the animation director for the series at whole and the director for the series at whole, said that during shippuuden pierrot forced them to consolidate budget into the movies. Most animators after filler hell quit and the remaining big budgets would be forced for the yearly or bi yearly slop movie. It's the entire reason the Pain invasion is so bad, which Hayato confirmed saying everyone was working on that movie which was infuriating due to them having full staff for the Jiraiya-Pain-Itachi-Sasuke parts right before and Pain is the climax of the entire story to this point. But they forced all resources into 166 and 167 as a way to compensate. And then 167 is like half loved, half vehemently disliked. So it backfired. And this continued. The war is atrocious.
>>290166817The Kaguya fight is the climax of the series.
>>290166913>t. Boruto author
>>290166458No
>>290164354Can you guys tell me what the point of this flashback is?
>>290164382Cute-ko
Sex with Shino!!!!
>>290164368Wait... They were Minato's personal elite bodyguards but the same age as Obito? WTF they'd be like 13 to protect the strongest shinobi alive, this is ridiculous.
>>290166753his eyes needs to be shooting out
>>290167271
>>290166048Its realistic. Obito is very 4chan character.
>>290165343>Did no one outside of Konoha participate in these exams?Combined exams only started after the 3rd war, when there's peace.
>>290164354>flashback nobody asked for
https://desuarchive.org/a/thread/282986493/#282986493
>>290167291The guys in question
>>290167445Tbh all these characters should've had their exams after the 3rd war. Would've been epic exams, with Mei, Kisame, Zabuza and Yugito participating in addition to Konohas big generation.
>>290164465>thus begins Obito's villain arc
>>290164541>Obito>TobiIT WAS RIGHT UNDER OUR NOSES THIS WHOLE TIME
>>290167588>I am no one>My past life means nothing to me>Also I should name myself Tobi, similar to Obito
>>290166639Sounds like a non-character or anime only
>>290164541WHAAAAAAAT? KAKASHI'S OLD TEAMMATE THAT DIED SAVING HIM? NO WAY, NO FUCKING WAY WHO COULD HAVE SEEN THIS COMING?
>>290164430Stop it, Rin.. Please stop looking at me like that...
>>290167588What does tobirama have to do with this?
>>290164444That second panel instantly reminded me of my favourite ending. Never realised they used shots from the manga in it.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3zsRbVo1T8
>>290166048>he couldn't get over some plain jane from over a decade agoObito should be the mascot for this daily since some of you can't move on from this manga that ended a decade ago lol
I liked that mask. Sad to see it destroyed
>>290164465the eyes of a maiden in love
>>290167230Yeah. Why are they showing Kakashi's friend right before we get to find out Tobi's identity? We want to know who's behind the mask already
>>290164368Goddamn Asuma looked weird before puberty
>>290164539Tbqh you could say the same about Tsunade.
>>290167850Rin actually does seem like she'd be kind enough to at least let Obito slurp on her feet while she's getting banged by Kekashi
>>290164389>Kakashi is always late on purpose to commemorate his dead teammateThat's really dumb
>>290165608Fucking kek, you can even see Minato's hair left on the rock
>>290168201Obito is one lucky dog
>>290164354Another flashback, kishi?
>>290164500This Obito? Reks Naruto, Sasuke, Neji, Lee and all the other genin from part 1.
>>290168048Yeah it made him look pretty cool, intimidating, and mysterious... Now he's just some ugly dude
>>290168341Shikamaru clears I'm afraid.
>>290168288I swear every damn picture of her makes her look so mischievous
>>290164541WHAT NO WAY IT WAS FUCKING OBITO THIS WHOLE TIME HOLY SHIT FUCKKNG PEAK KISHIIIIIIIIIII
>>290168341according to the loar, they were handing out chunin ranks like candy during that time because of the war. which is why their squad gets dunked on later and Obito "dies".
>>290164541The chuddest face in the naruto world
>>290164512Obito sure was the perfect ninja of the group by hiding that bouquet and literally NO ONE noticing. At least no one called him guy by believing he wanted to give Kakashi flowers.
Are you fags hyped for the new card game?
>>290164529>>290166058>>290166088I think it should be thread tradition that whenever a memorable anime version comes up someone should post a youtube link
>>290168048>>290168344it made his eyes look too wide apart
>>290168488>guy*gay, but it's probably also appropiate.
>>290164465>>290164486>>290164512Genuinely mind broken. Poor guy.
>>290168452You can really see why Obito fell for her
>>290165764She has no reason to notice him. Obito was just a pussy
I wonder why obito turned evil? Surely, it’s not beautiful he blames kakashi for rin death or anything like that. That would be fucking stupid!
>>290168621If only we could leave it at that.
>>290164407>>290164419>kakashi vs gai team on the examn part 2>>290164457>>290164465>>290164486>kakashi and gai on the finals (part 3)I am confused. Shouldnt one of the team be out by the start of the part 3? Why are both of them still in?
>>290168612She might have noticed his feelings if Kakashi 'thundercock' Hatake wasn't aroundBut she probably wouldn't respond to them positively unless he'd already began mass murdering people and starting world wars
>>290167128Based
>>290165733Probably the way Kakashi is staring at him
>>290168589l-lewd...
>>290168058...with somebody else...
>>290164486Kakashi's age makes no fucking sense
>>290168589Yeah. Poor lad didn't stand a chance against that smileNor did he stand a chance against Kakashi 'thundercock' Hatake stealing her heart
>>290168702No, one was cell battles and the other individual battles.
>>290164486??????
>>290164541Evil Naruto
>>290164382Hizuzen looks upset no children died.
>>290166455This guy, afaik he has no official name.
Obito would at least earn some respect points if he did everything by himself. Whatever tragedy he witnessed it motivated him to reach into a rabbit hole looking for answers. Reading forbidden scrolls. Gaining knowledge of the Infinite Tsukuyomi. Setting up everything in place. Even if he was broken up over a girl, so what? He started a war and is about to remake the world into his liking.But no. Everything was Madara's/Black Zetsu's keikaku, his loss was fabricated, Madara told him what to do, he handed him the tools and he became a tool. It really would have been better if Obito was the solo originator of this plan and Madara had nothing to do with it.
>>290167813Nobody is talking about his personality or how interesting he is though.
>>290168612this is exactly how women think about most men>if he didn't approach me then he didn't want me badly enoughor, more coldly>if he didn't have the balls to approach then I can't trust him to have the balls to be a protector and provider
>>290164419...so did Kakashi win this 1v3 for them? Or do you think they jobbed? I know Rin isn't beating Genma or anyone else male. seems like a pointless stage that makes no sense if every team advanced anyway
It's weird how Kabuto's sensei was surrounded by people associated with Orochimaru but was never associated with Orochimaru himself.
>>290164541I wish that rasengan to the dome killed him like it should've. Kakashi never quite knowing if it was Obito or not and then a group fight with Madara for the finale would've been more satisfying than any of this
>>290164541ENTER THE COOLEST GUY!
>>290165920>HOT TAKE>posts some retarded shit that is barely a "take"Kakashi expressions are one of the few things Kishi nails, you're just likely autistic
>>290168892Probably had a role before most of Orochimaru's forces got retconned to not exist after Konoha Crush. Kabuto's pals never showed up again.
>>290168955The mystery being this obvious would actually be cleverly justifiable if we never get a 100% confirmation about his identity.
>>290168955It's funny how normal Rasengans never do shit like the time Naruto blew up the water tower from behind in the hospital again.
>>290168742Just the way I like it
>>290168341...in his Dreams after getting knocked unconscious by part 1 Tenten.
>>290168838It's more that she probably had no idea he was into her to begin withbut:>if he didn't have the balls to approach then I can't trust him to have the balls to be a protector and providerThis is true no matter how you look at it. Obito didn't shoot his shot and fucked up
What's his story again? Kakashi lost an eye or something and Obito just rips his out and jams it in there? Then both him and Rin die? I used to watch Naruto as a teen but fell off with it at some point in Shippuden.
>>290167377He’s so gentle and kind ahhhhhhhhhh!!!!
>>290168783Maybe Obito was just too old for Rin?
>>290168474I mean, he's literally going "millions must dream/die".
From now it's 88 chapters left for Naruto to say the line...>>290169233Read the next couple chapters to find his backstory.
Wasted design
>>290169395>88 chaptersFuck...
>>290169233Rin dies later in one of the most retarded plots (both in the initial version and the details that come out later).
>I did it...because you wouldn't fuck me
I like Obito
>>290168183Yeah, but like barely.
>>290169229the problem with this logic is it views relationships in a very superficial and transactional way. it's not about his personality or how well they get along, it's about what he can do for her. his material value. the equivalent would be men judging women solely on their ability to give birth safely.
>>290166179If this is the language you're most comfortable with, then would you mind go fuck yourself?
>>290169402Holy shit that's cool
>>290164465Did Rin and Kurenai fight each other?
>>290169020>If this is the language you're most comfortable with, then would you mind go fuck yourself?If this is the language you're most comfortable with, then would you mind go fuck yourself?
>>290169675probably at some point since Kakashi is the only one who passed iirc, so she'd take the exams again until she passed
>>290169719>a single person becomes chunin every year>80000 chunin+ level ninja in the world
>>290169675Kurenai and Anko mog rin to death
>>290168819Man I really hate seeing cool fanart of such dogshit characters that don't deserve it
>>290164338As a teen watching Naruto part 1, I thought that Obito's backstory with Kakashi would have more gravitas than this school kid shit. At least let them both be adults during Obito's death. Obito's backstory is by far and wide the worst part of this story besides that abhorrent tenchi bridge arc
>>290169801I Know its canon that the bar for Chunin was lowered during the 3rd Ninja War because all the Chunins died or were injured Hiruzen sent literal 13 year olds to the frontlines, but this seems to be taking place either before the 3rd ninja war or early on in the war when it wasn't as bad but I could be wrong
>>290166048Wait a minute, Obito is Kakashi's age give or take right? So that means that he did the whole shit with the 9 tails at like 14 or 15 years old? Naruto is 17ish years old in the story, and all that shit happened the day he was born.
>>290169977He is like 5 years older than Kakashi.
>>290169977yeah, we all know that
>>290164465>kakashi using a kunai knife during an exhibition battleDamn, he was trying to fucking kill Gai.
>>290169972>Kishi literally calling the people that died nameless
>>290169402Arcsys gets itYou don't ever "unmask" a masked character. Fans love endlessly speculating on what they look like, and to a certain type of fan, the mask BECOMES their face. They don't even mind a lack of face if the character is interesting.Tobi should have just stayed a phase shifting Uchiha Akatsuki, he could even have still been Obito from Kakashi's past, it could have made an Akatsuki fight pretty good. Those are basically the.highlight of Part 2 anyway. He could have still been an underground plant man for 15 years, could have still been in on the Moon's Eye plan, maybe even trained by Madada. He could have been a very important Akatsuki like Pain with connections to the heroes. But he shouldn't have been so important, he shouldn't have become a Six Paths Sage, he shouldn't have been The Coolest Guy, its just so fucking lame. Its like if instead of being killed at the last second by Kagura, Madera gets taken out by the glasses guy from the chuunin written exam
>>290169977kakashi is like 7 years younger than obito
>>290168819I agree. Obito should have been the final villain and he should have been evil all the way to the end. Not have all that redemption bullshit. The big mysterious masked man actually being Kakashi's childhood friend was a good idea but why the fuck would Kishi make it so obvious to everyone. He had a good thing going with him pretending to be Madara as a red herring
>>290170027Tenten used a lot of weapons during the chunin exams. She was way higher level than Kakashi.
>>290169977yeah. he just becomes an Itachi-tier prodigy after living in Uncle Badtouch's cave for a few years
>>290169675Does it ever show Kurenai reacting to the world ending threat originating from "that creepy incel Uchiha guy" she went to school with? Its like a school shooting times 1000.
>>290170016>>290170061According to what? They look the same age and are according to databook age.
>>290170098I don't think she, or anyone other than Guy + Team Kakashi learn that Obito was responsible. and I don't think Kakashi explains who Obito is to anyone other than Naruto
>>290170061>>290170016So is Rin Kakashi's age or Obitos? I thought Rin was promoted to Chunin at like 11, and Kakashi was promoted at like 6 years old or some shit. Was Rin crushing on a child 5 years younger than her?
>>290170098Kurenai doesn't exist anymore. Not even Asuma remembered her.
>>290169908At least tenchi bridge got in and out quickly, featured everyone's favorite snake pedophile getting fights, and gave us Four Tails Naruto and beyond. This is more egregious because the whole series has been building to it since Kakashi's first reveal. Kishimoto couldn't think of anything better in a decade than "da cucky boi mad"
>>290170112>According to what?kishimotoHe literally said that kakashi was 6 when achieved chunnin
>>290170079Obito is a jobber, but he got eyehax and Hashirama cells' boost on his side.>>290170098I don't think we see much of her ever again until the very last chapter.
>>290170112According to himself.
>>290170079Helps to get gifted for no reason, arguably the best mangekyo ever made
>>290170098No. None of these side characters matter at all, but that didn't stop Kishi from making up a fucking thousand of them. To make it seem as if there's some level of magnitude to the world. It's also why there's 100,000 zetsu clones fighting the 40,000 background character shinobi.
>>290170133He's very good looking (she thinks, he always wears a mask)
>>290170173>>290170207How do we know Obito isn't 6 in those exams?
>>290170074
>>290170327Me on the right
>>290164486>this is a 6 year old childWhat the fuck man. Classic Hiruzen and his child soldiers. You'd think a good 65% of shinobi would be genin, then maybe 25% chunin, and 10% jonin, but it's really 50% jonin, 40% chunin, and 10% genin. It's so fucking dumb.
>Rin was a paedophile lusting over a kid half her ageKishi didn't think this through
>>290169554Would you take one for the team and cure this Uchiha femcel of her rage, anons?
>>290170289The bigger question is why are they bothering to promote so many children to chunin?>oh well because they're in perpetual war so they need child soldiersSo fucking what? Send the genin out there. Who gives a shit? If you're at the point where you're sending children out to the front lines, why are you bothering to care about promoting them? If anything you'd want them all to be lowly ranked, rank and file genin that shut the fuck up and fall in line. Sure in cases of absolutely exceptional genius children as Kakashi is supposed to be there could be an exception but why are you bothering to make sure every single soldier is at minimum a chunin?
>>290170529But he lost.
How the FUCK did Kidomaru lose this fight?
Anko is a 2 years old toddler in that exam btw.
>>290169554Based.
>>290170564Neji cheated.
>>290170407Reminder Itachi was 4 years when he first went to war.
>Obito got mogged by a toddlerUchiha Hinata.
They're all definitely meant to be the same age. Kishi is just a hack who doesn't care about consistency
>all this non-stop war that has pushed "good guys" like Hiruzen into sending out waves and waves of child soldiers conveniently stops the minute naruto is born>Naruto grows up in a time of absolute peace and prosperity and never has to interact with the cold shinobi world of death, war, and destruction that send literal 5 year olds to the front lines>he is now the the one preaching from the highest hills on how awful war and the cycle of violence is when he never had to experience a true, actual war, only fighting zombies and clones and whenever someone needed killing someone else would kill Naruto's enemies for him>even Naruto's enemies would conveniently kill themselves and undo the damage they did to keep him cleanThis is such a dogshit manga.
>>290170564he got cocky after he figured out Neji's weakpoint, and so forgot to consider that maybe Neji also knows what his weakpoint is and knows how to mitigate it as well. same mistake Naruto made when he thought he could avoid Itachi's genjutsu by not looking him in the eye, only to get caught out by his finger genjutsu instead
>>290170844it's because shonen mangaka never want to have main characters who are much older than about 20-25. He wanted Itachi to be a proven prodigy, but he also wanted him to be Sasuke's brother. which means he could at absolute maximum only be around ten years older than Sasuke. He wanted Kakashi to be a war vet, but also wanted him to be attractive and 'cool' and so needed to be young. you see this all the time in Japanese media, where you have some "grizzled Colonel with 15 years of experience" and they're only like 23 years old. they're deathly afraid of having characters in their 40s and 50s be main characters because they think kids won't find them relatable. Even Goku and Vegeta get this treatment because Toriyama made it so saiyans look like they're about 25 until they're deep into their 60s.
>>290164541https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIYSWLNvMzc&t=9s
>>290164541the exact moment tobi lost all aura he had carefully built until now
>>290169977Didn't Obito and Kakashi know each other for years? Kakashi is supposed to be SIX years old in this flashback.
>>290171321I think that is retconned as of this flashback.
>>290170042>kishi invented unidentified soldiersbravo
>>290164541even back then people were still in denial and thought this HAD to be someone else in obito's body
>>290170564My favorite part was when Kishi wrote himself into a corner and realized Kidomaru had no reason to ever give up his range advantage so Neji got the magical ability to send chakra(?) up Kidomaru's web line to conveniently shock and disable him into falling. This new ability has never been seen before or since, it didnt have a name, and Kishi was really hoping to just blow past it so he could rush to the emotional ending of Neji's death takeout. >muh byakugan/Eight Trigrams"No!"Neji has very specifically up to that point been shown utilizing the Byakugan to see and attack enemy chakra networks via the ten-whatever points. Theoretically what he is doing with his fingers and chakra isn't anything special, Naruto could train to gather chakra in his fingertips, but Neji's ability to see the points to attack is what makes this useful. Neji isn't touted as some chakra genius who can manipulate chakra in an unusual way.So either the thing Neji did to the web line was just something like chakra disruption to break a genjutsu that anyone can do, which kind of makes Kidomaru a retard for sending those chakra infused web lines to attack his opponent, and really makes him more of a jobber than this daily has been giving him credit for, or Neji utilized a stupid attack that breaks the verse again, just like when Sasuke was Pikachu
>>290169977The Minato flashback was the main counterpoint for the "Obito = Tobi" theory because it didn't make sense for Obito to look like a grown up and be that powerful. Some thought the Tobi on Minato's flashback was the real Madara and that there were actually two Tobis. Turns out it was just Hashirama's bullshit cells.
>>290164444>Hidden Technique: Frilled-Neck Lizard!
You now remember that there were multiple anons who for like a decade tried to flex on people with their elite nipponese knowledge and assured you, baka gaijin, that O bi to and To bi were actually VERY different in sacred Nihongo, and it was simply you tiny American brain who couldn't comprehend this. They simply were nothing alike and you shouldn't infer anything from those names.
>>290171655his guided arrows rely on a constant chakra connection, otherwise they're just normal arrows. he wasn't doing it because he's stupid, it's because it's the only way he could attack Neji. it's like the guidewires on old missiles and torpedoes.
>>290171788To be fair, they're right, there's a whole letter missing from Tobi (though that's the same in english).
>>290171266>carefully builtHe felt like a bumbling retard for quite a while.
>>290169402It really was a mistake to get rid of the Akatsuki
>>290170327Kage level feat
Oh, I am going to miss that mask though. I really liked that outfit.
duh it was obitotobi obi to
>>290171655>>290171831Neji was already dying, and Kidomaru had already succeeded in shooting him several times. Kidomaru could have just kept sending his regular arrows or kunai and Neji would be dead in one or two more volleys. Plus, Neji was low on chakra at that point, and it seems unreasonable that he could knock out second state curse mark Kidomaru at that distance in one shot.Moral of the story: Hyuga are overhyped weaklings.
>>290172715He wanted to make sure the arrow actually hit, and there were trees blocking the way.>and it seems unreasonable that he could knock out second state curse mark Kidomaru at that distance in one shot.But he literally did.
>>290172427Holy shit... I never made the connection... Kishi is a master.
>>290167291Once again Kishimoto is retarded and didn't think about it
>>290172715he had gotten a handful of lucky hits when spamming needles at him, which is how he figured out where the blind spot was. he figured he could cut to the chase and put him down instantly with one good killshot, which is what I was talking about when I said he got cocky. he figured he had Neji "figured out", got overconfident, and let down his guard.
>>290169675Rin kicked Kurenai's ass btw
>>290172427If you repeat "Tobi" a couple of times, you'll end up saying Obito anyway.
>>290168705Was Rin really such a murderous piece of shit?
>>290164368The guy that turned Sasuke into a rouge
>>290172715>>290172789>>290173080Kidomaru put multiple gapping holes across Neji's body, the last one was near his intestines and/or lung.Kidomaru didn't make the wrong call here, Neji just bullshitted his way to victory so Sasuke's betrayal wouldn't have led to a death.
>>290173082...In the illusion Kurenai put her through before Knocking her out.
>>290173098This is how kishi himself decided it would be obito
>>290173181Neji let those hits through to bait Kidomaru into thinking he had the W in the bag and thus let down his guard. same with the initial needles he let hit his blind spot. he wanted Kidomaru to think he had no way of defending it.
>>290164541HOLY SHIT
>>290173275That's not even headcanon, that's fucking fanfiction you just spouted right there.Neji wasn't even sure he could beat Kidomaru for most of the fight and only got that idea by the last hit.Even if this was what happened in the manga, it still wouldn't make Neji's victory any less bullshit.
>>290168288>her face when thousands die because Obito wanted to suck on these toes
>>290173355>I know my weaknesses better than you dois what he tells Kidomaru to his face after getting the killshot on him. try watching the series again before popping off.
>>290173239>...In the illusion Kurenai put her through before Rin Knocking Kurenai out.That's what I said.
>>290173419And where did you get "i was merely pretending to lose!" from that line?
>>290173434No you didn't.
>>290173419>>watching
>>290164970>>290164541yeah
>>290166058damn, i don't remember at all
>>290164529>>290164961If the flashback had ended on some Uchiha standing over Obito's corpse having plucked his other eye out, I would have unironically shouted kino
>>290173419He said "i couldn't dodge it anyway...so i decided to take the hit...i know my limits better than you" when Kidomaru asked how he didn't die to the last arrow.He's clearly refering to the attack he just took and not the whole fight, retard.
>>290164541?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
You know, i don't actually dislike Obito being Tobi or even think the concept of him doing it for Rin is inherently bad, my problem is the fact that the story doesn't treat him as a pathetic vermin that he is.Like, just because he was given a shitty hand, it doesn't make anything he did justifiable or honorable.What lesson is Kishi trying to teach here? That going "millions must die" is actually cool? That if you become a Psycho murder you will get your crush eventually?
>>290173883AOT's ending is worse than anything in Naruto, Naruto doesn't deserve to be compared to that.
>>290174051Unfortunately for Naruto, that's not true.
>>290173883Naruto...thank you for becoming a jinchuuriki...for our sake
>>290173675>>290173458the comment "I know my limits" was referring to his blind spot, because he knew what Kidomaru had been trying to do. his gambit was that he knew he couldn't beat Kidomaru in a straight fight, all he had was to try and trick him. common sense, morons. >uhm Neji had no idea what he was doing and was just reacting to stimuli until he got lucky at the last secondI really do not like talking to Low IQs
>>290173883>What lesson is Kishi trying to teach here?If you have even one aspect of you that a nepo-baby approves of, you're forgiven for everything.
>>290174103>the comment "I know my limits" was referring to his blind spot, because he knew what Kidomaru had been trying to do. his gambit was that he knew he couldn't beat Kidomaru in a straight fight, all he had was to try and trick him. common sense, morons.Still doesn't mean ge was deliberately taking those arrows throughout the fight.>uhm Neji had no idea what he was doing and was just reacting to stimuli until he got lucky at the last secondNever said anything remotely close to this.
>>290174359*heGod dammit, stupid fat thumb.
>>290174103>>290173275>Neji's strat was to let Kidomaru hit him multiple times until he, conveniently, threw an arrow that is connected to him and reveal his location and not die in the processNaruto's uppercut must have done irreversible damage to Neji's brain.
>>290174511That wasn't his "strat", he just didn't know what to do because his opponent was clearly much stronger than himChrist you're all so retarded
>>290174774You can't tell sarcasm?I'm making fun of that anon for actually thinking Neji deliberately made Kido cocky by taking his arrows.
>>290174051Not in a million years
>>290174051Everything from AOT is worse than anything in Naruto period.
>>290164512Females be like this tho. I don't understand the issue here.
>>290164635jobbers gonna job
>>290164656>>290164673>naruto but uchihanobody asked for this
>>290164785he should have been danzo. or madara.>>290164796thanks op.
>>290164796Cheers for the dump
>>290164796thanks for the comfy dump, OP!
>>290164541Is there by any chance archived thread when he was revelead? I remember how people were saying he still might be a zombie instead of Obito.
>>290164512Man, this shit hurts to watch. Jesus.
>>290176403just look on desu around the date the chapter released on WSJ, I'm sure you'll find something
>>290174051Obito is far more pathetic than Eren ever was
So there is supposed to be 30 people in here and counting going by the amount of replies to that Obito reveal page?
>>290176532maybe, but I'm not sure. I'd say there's at least as many of us as the poll had votes, unless some of them have left the daily since.
>>290164512
>>290176532You forgot the lurkers, so that's at least 60-70 people in this thread.
>>290164541>before he's revealed we have to watch flashbacks of him getting cucked and humiliatedInteresting choice.
Would be funny if Gai gave Obito the Kisame treatment and was like "Kakashi who is this?"
>>290177064More like 6 or 7
>>290171147Yeah the characters are way too young. Naruto and co during part 1 should've been around 15-16 not 12. By part 2 they should've been full adults (with the same designs btw). Itachi should've atleast been 17+ when he went rogue and Kakashi should've "lost" Tobi around that age too.
>>290170027There's nothing wrong with kids having fun.
>>290164512Brutal.
comfy
https://www.jbox.com.br/2026/08/14/viz-media-fala-sobre-o-mercado-brasileiro-de-consumo-de-animes-e-promete-novidades-para-naruto-entrevista/> Then a lot will happen on the 25th anniversary of Naruto's anime next year.viz saying it
>>290177455funny
>>290179666The 4 eps maybe?
>>290164541NO FUARKING WAY
>>290164553>>290164796I actually liked this chapter.
>Boruto is on hiatus right nowWhy? It's monthly and the art isn't even good enough to justify THAT.
Other generals aren't this active btw
>>290180195Naruto general WON.
>>290180128Kishimoto is honestly just on another level than today's mangakas
>>290164541>Big bad is a Naruto recolor with the rinneganHuh
>>290164512>bottom left panelYeah, I'd make that face too if someone handed me a piece of paper that said something this retarded
>>290181113>each generation repeats the cycle of conflict between friends who become estranged when the optimistic friend gets disillusioned by the violence of the world and no longer believes peace can be achieved through love but only through hate>Naruto breaks the cycle by refusing to go back on his word and never giving up on Sasuke even if it means he can never become Hokage, because how can he become Hokage if he can't save one friend?Kino
>>290164512Woah… he’s just like me!
Man this story honestly had so much potential, it's just too bad 99% of it is show over substance that appeals to the absolute lowest common denominator.
>>290175783Nobody had warned Obito.
>>290164512You know I never paid much attention to this page but now I look at it closely I'm finding it hillarious.
>>290181113Naruto if he had gone wrong.
>>290180195What does that mean to you?
>>290170154The good thing about tenchi bridge is that it was inconsequential to the story. But it was still painful to watch in the anime because of how padded it was (same goes for the manga). Obito's backstory is also painful to watch but due to entirely different reasons. Mostly because of how juvenile and retarded it is. Youtubers make him out to be some misunderstood character but he really isn't and his motivations ultimately make no sense.
>>290164512Obito did nothing wrong
Rin deserved it
>>290168838>>290169229Based, don't be a pussy
>>290165687>a retard's complaining about visual story telling in a visual storytelling mediumunironically kill yourself
>>290182826>The good thing about tenchi bridge is that it was inconsequential to the story.That's not a good thing. It's basically a filler arc in the manga where Naruto finally meets with Sasuke again without having anything consequential happen.
>>290180195/nart/ certainly isn't
>>290184436I'm just glad that yamato and sai were dropped entirely. Imagine those emotionless cardboards being plot relevant.
>>290184436Kishi just wanted to show the readers his pet again so he built an entire arc around it that had no connection to the overarching story instead of integrating him to it in another way
>>290185981That would be the war arc reviving everyone, especially Itachi.
>>290186063The war arc is what concludes the overarching story though.
>>290186111It manages to be a conclusion of the overarching story without connection to the overarching story.
>>290186123>it's the end point of the thing>it's not connected to the thing though
>>290164541>EVRN AFTER I DIE I WANT RIN TO THINK ABOUT ME. TEN YEARS AT LEAST
>>290164512Is this supposed to make me feel bad for Obito
I want to KISS Sakura!
>>290186523Are you sure?
I see the thread is still relatively comfy
>>290181113Kishi should have killed Sakura so Naruto can feel Obito's pain
>>290186624You not even hiding it anymore?
>>290186768Why would Kishi do something that would make him look like a good writer
>>290165608lol
>>290187045What is there to hide?
>>290164541G-G-G-G-G OBITO...?
>>290187486>Huh? Huh? Huh?Drop the act, loser.
jeetsukejeet
>>290187912What act? At least tell me what I'm supposedly trying to hide.
>>290176506Obito got brainwashed for real. Naruto entered his mind and messed around his memories.
>>290164512Giving real "the worst she can say is no" vibes.
Hyuuga eyes are ugly
Who has the prettiest eyes?
>>290188423I wonder why.
>>290188465Kurenai
>>290188423I like the fact that they make them look like ayys. If anything, other kekkei genkai should be more visually striking to get the point across that they are mutations and give credence to the "we hate people with strange abilities" stuff that was going on during Haku's time.>>290188465The evil loli that cried blood or whatever from that Sasuke novel.
>>290188526her daughter mogs her
>>290188620Her daughter is a boy.
>>290188465
>>290188526>>290188674Good choices. But for me it is still Yugito.
>>290188655boys make the best (and prettiest) daughters
>>290188485zamn, live action naruto be keeping it real AF
>>290164541>>290164465>>290164486>>290164500>>290164512Brutal. Rin has never romantically loved Obito. An eternal friend zone.
>>290188747Pretty! I wish we had gotten a what-if movie like Road to Ninja but where Naruto linked up with the other jinchuuriki and took the fight to Akatsuki.
>>290188465Shino
>>290188674God, such top tier design and so little panel/screen time. I bet her nipples are pierced, too.
>The ship that saved the 'rutoverse
>>290189515Ironically she did appear in Road to Ninja....But yeah something like that could've been cool. I guess there are those filler episodes of Bee's dream.
>>290189515>>290189668Oops, forgot I had the image of her Road to Ninja appearance loaded.
>>290189644>gothnata>jocksukeboth incredibly out of character. maybe if you reverse the roles...
>>290177400Obito already complained about that. He's still seething.
>>290164512>Aoba is thereWould he have recognized Obito?
>>290189689Sexgito...Was Menma as much of a fag as regular Nart? Why did he not claim her as spoils of war?
You think Obito ever had sex?
>>290169082
>>290190544Seems some of his characteristics are just too strong to be inverted.
>>290190743He likely railed at least one of the zetsus on a regular basis. The question is if he had them turn into Kakashi or Rin.
>>290190743It's not clear if Kakashi ever had sex, let alone Obito.
>>290190766Obito is not a happy kek but I'm sure he could get behind Konan and Rin doing it with each other.
>>290191097>The question is if he had them turn into Kakashi or Rin.I won't stand for this libel. Obito is one of the few clearly straight characters in the manga.
>>290190743Obito is banging Rin in afterlife right now.
>>290191148I have it on good authority that he showed Kakashi his gaping hole and even taunted him with the memory of the time he fisted Rin in much the same manner, kinda sus mate
>>290187045>>290187912
>>290191231you just know that psycho Rin got a raging girlboner watching Obito cause the deaths of their teacher and his freshly out of childbirth wife. What a cool guy.
>>290190743If I remember correctly before he left her to die he told Konan "I'm going to have my way with you"
>>290166817Only Hinatas love confession was important, please understand.
>>290191345Given that she liked Kakashi the teammate killer that could be entirely true.
>>290190743He stabbed Konan from behind with a pipe, that is as symbolic as could be.
>>290164430Good thing the anime showed us these scenes 3 times even with sound.
Nagato got groomed by a guy younger than him...
>>290167850Reminder that Kishi created Rin after a JAV actress>>290186624>>290187486>>290188023Hanabi fucks her Boruto btw
>>290192337
>>290190766lul
>>290164338Thanks
>>290176458I did, several threads out there but none with initial reveal.
>>290164338THREAD THEME: SUFFERING https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPtyAzve2Dc
>>290186523me too
>>290189644of course he's wearing Jordan's number
>>290195129Did you look by the WSJ issue's cover date or release date? IIRC WSJ issues are actually released about a week or so before their actual cover date, might help checking 1-2 weeks before that, in case there were also leaks. I'd go check out myself rn but desu seems to be down at the moment.