Who could successfully adapt Mishima's works into anime?
>>290284084Oshii.
>>290284084Some bara artist would probably put his vision to page accurately
Me
>>290284156oshii might be decent enough to pull it off
>>290284084Araki would be perfect for a manga adaption.
>>290284084I'd honestly kill for an adaptation of Sea of Fertility
>>290284206Get keisuke itagaki on the line.
Ueno, Souta
>>290284498It'd be pretty hard to pull off, I feel like one issue is his prose are basically lost in the visual medium and that's one thing about mishima you don't wanna lose.
>>290284084I prefer Kawabata.
>>290284084I miss him so much
>>290284084Spiritually Shigurui already did it.
>>290284084whoever directed Onii-chan wa Oshimai
>>290284498Where to cop?
>>290284084Work:Madame de SadeDir:Ikuhara
>>290285283Shigurui is an adaptation of a novel by Norio Nanjou, who is "spiritually" a completely different author.Does your knowledge of Mishima come from YouTube essays, or worse, podcasts?
>>290285283this makes sense, Mishima was obsessed with hypermasculinity to cope with his attraction to men, and Shigurui was gay as fuck
>>290285283Good taste, but given that Shigurui doesnt exactly glorify samurai loyalty that isnt really accurate
Dunno never read any of his books. Whats it about? "I'm a big homosexual with body dysmorphia that wants to die for the emperor"?
>>290285347Work: Kinkaku-jiDir: Nakamura Kenji (Mononoke)
>>290285601a tale as old as timeman who really wanted to fuck men gets into right-wing politics
>>290285607Work: My Friend HitlerDir: Oshii
>>290285376Thankfully you're reading a 15-volume comic adaptation instead of Nanjo's original 30 or so pages. >>290285465I suppose that also applies to the post I replied to above, but it's not like Mishima was a chungus "samurai good" guy. Revisionist stories about feudal Japan were everywhere back when he was alive. Mishima explicitlyrejoiced in the eroticized nature of submitting to an absolute authority. Hagakure was an ideal, so any case of "look how cruel and flawed it was" would only mean that it's the world's fault for failing to live up to it.
Mashima was perfectly captured by the Togo Minami/Washio Sumi character in Yuki Yuna Yusha De Aru. We have no need for more anime characters modeled after him.
>>290285601>Dunno never read any of his books. Whats it about? Beauty and death.
>>290285601Everything is prone to decay and rot and the world is a shit place but the general pessimism of the world can be overcome by great acts of Will birthed out of beauty which is defiance to the ugliness around us and these acts are beneficial to both the doer of the act and the witness of it. There is his general philosophy but I am not doing it proper justice in a paragraph.
>>290285283mishima would hate shigurui
It's bwcpilled
>>290285376Shigurui has nothing in common with the original novel.
>>290284084No one because Mishima is way too talented to ever be adapted by anyone in the industry, no matter what it would be subpar and critics that have thoroughly read his works would be disappointed.
>>290284954>Kawabatagreat prose and melancholic
>>290284084kys
>>290284156no
>>290285443Goddamn you losers really don't read books at all. Why are xtard election tourists so obsessed with him being gay? Yes he was gay. I remember talking to a Nip about his work and some random fat-ass (probably American according to his accent) just chimed in and said "Oh and he was gay too!". I then asked him about if he read Mishima and he goes "I heard he's fascist".....nigga.
>>290288842The type of person that hates Mishima without reading any of his work is the type of person that pretends not to understand things, thus making discourse impossible. The type of person that derides Mishima for faggotry to 'own the chuds' is usually the type of person that attends pride events.
>and said "Oh and he was gay too!". I then asked him about if he read Mishima and he goes "I heard he's fascist".Gigachad does this
>>290288842people love their silly little factoids
>>290288965gigachad died of aids in the summer of 2019
>>290288947These low iq monkeys thrive off of sophistry and braindead idpol, that's just the schtick nowadays.
>>290285601More or less, he was also a pitfag (hairy)
>>290289011gigachad died March 2, 2018
>>290284084Morio Asaka
>>290288842Why should I read something from a diseased mind
>>290284084 Not an anime but I believe Shamo showcases well enough his values.
>>290284084この日大和平野には、黄ばんだ芝野に風花が舞ってゐた。春の雪といふにはあまりに淡くて羽虫が飛ぶやうな降りざまであったが
>>290289715My N3 gets raped so...
>>290284850 Thay can have someone narrate his prose while showing the cracters acting out the narrtive.
>>290284448Kurumada is basically Mishima writing shounen manga
>>290284084why would anyone watch an adaptation, his craft was mastered in the books, any other media trying to recreate his work would be dull.I wouln't watch them, as I did watch the odyssey
>>290284084the master himself.
>>290284084Why did so few high level philsophers/writers ever get ripped like mishima? Many were sedentary, not exactly fat but a bundle of sticks.
>>290291187You know Socrates was a hoplite.
>>290291187Platon mean big shoulders
>>290291187Nietzsche was a nomad of sorts so it depends
>>290291425But did Nietzche do his compulsory military service or did he find a reason to get out of it?
>>290291965one of mishimas greatest regrets is not joining the war because most of his friends were killed
Why would you even want an adaptation of a book? Manga I understand but I’m yet to watch any good adaptions of non plays.
>>290290923Anno is a nationalist but he doesn't fit Mishima's sensibilities. It still could be interesting to see Anno's take on Mishima. It'd be a deconstructional take just like Nagisa Oshima's Merry Christmas Mr Lawrence and Gohatto
>>290292296Anno quotes him in his CCA fanclub doujinshi.
>>290292296Attempting to deconstruct Mishima would be difficult, because his contradictions are what make him so resistant to any single interpretation. Though I guess that in itself could warrant something but many have taken a crack at it and it usually leads to the same conclusion of "he was contradictory, but that was his identity and what made him Mishima". It is a interpretive dead end.
For me It's Spring Snow and The Sailor Who Fell From Grace With the Sea
>>290284084Any BL author
>>290284084Satoshi Kon.
>>290284084I think the biggest issue is trying to find overlap between people who could do it and people who would do it. Mishima seems somewhat divisive amongst Japanese readers
Sun and Steel
>>290288842>I heard he's fascistI mean.. that's not really a mischaracterization of the guy.
>>290297496Calling Mishima a fascist is a pretty good way to filter if someone has ever bothered reading anything from the guy at all so I dunno what you mean.
>>290298606Can I still call him a faggot
>>290284084Making anime of anything from mishima is disrespectful to mishima, anime is a lowbrow medium. You cant make /lit/ apart of the jp canon, eastern canon or western canon with anime. It will always be mediocre at best compared to the original and no one has the balls. All mangaka and anime directors do is quote people like mishima because taking his art and putting them into anime is a fast way to get called a hack for the rest of your career.
>>290284156nah he'd subvert the fuck out of Mishima.
>>290295407I don't think anyone is talented enough in the anime industry and well read enough to make a proper anime of something like The sea of fertility. Also any attempts at Tanizaki and Kawabata.
>>290299304Bwcman has already been adapted. Lmao at niggers itt thinking any kind of fiction can't be adapted
>>290299330Old Oshii would do but modern Oshii converted to the right-wing and it's working with the far right PM. He even accepts that he worship the emperor now
>>290284084His estate wouldn't allow it, they think anime is for losers.
>>290300253Mishima loved Ashita no Joe.
>>290300467Nu anime, moe moe
>>290284084Uwe Boll
>>290300467He didn't get to see the ending though. Or Yamato's kamikaze scene from 1978, imagine if he saw that. The fag missed out.
>>290289748could be interesting if it was done in an kind of experimental way
>>290302568prison arc was so boring it made him kill himself
>>290284084>Yukio Mishimamore like Yo are a mid shemale
>>290298606>so I dunno what you meanProbably the whole coup thing
>>290288842The fact he's gay and a right winger just makes him the ideal piece of mockery
>>290284084Anime is made for the masses as it's core so it wouldn't work. Maybe Takahata?
>>290300104Not sure that changes much.Judging by the new Graue Hexe PV he's right back to his old tricks there
>>290303329That doesn't make him a fascist... he was a Shōwa Nationalist that liked fascist aesthetics. That's the widely agreed consensus.
>>290303337The Japanese right wing and western right wing are historically very different, you'd know if you studied some history.
>>290284568You might actually be right, but Itagaki's political views are odd enough that I don't think he would like Mishima. Probably thinks Mishima was a pussy draft dodger, considering Itagaki was an actual JSDF member. But might align with his anti establishment stance, but only in a dislike of the government, not the endorsement of Japanese Imperialism.If Mishima was alive today, Itagaki would probably draw a chapter of Yujiro raping his ass till he came.
>>290300104I for one am shocked that the insane wehraboo would turn out to actually be right-wing
>>290287883>acts of Will birthed out of beauty which is defiance to the ugliness around usThat just means anything to defy the current stream of bullshit on our world is beautiful, in other words, thats how internet extremist (right and left wings) were born.
>>290303902No it does not, go read mishima or don't I guess.
>>290290659For people that can't read
>>290289310Was this good? I didn't see any threads on /a/.
>>290300467I was gonna say Ashita no Joe but it actually came in Mishima's time. Havent really read Mishima but the thing i know him for is the interview where hes lamenting the decline in vitality of the common man and how men die timidly in a hospital instead of beautifully. Im sure theres more to his philosophy than that blurb conveys but there are a few characters that come to mind that have that sort of "beautiful death" characteristic. Joe and Rikiishi for example. Nnoitra from Bleach. Akagi from Agaki.
>>290305840"Beautiful death" is pretty much the core of bushido, besides boyfucking. I get it from Mishima because he was nostalgic for the samurais his entire life, e was a samurai descendent after all, but Ikki Kajiwara was a leftist and Ashita no Joe was an icon among the Japanese student movement but still follow the bushido. Many Japanese figures from the left seem to agree that communism failed in Japan because the communists still followed the death cult of the past despite they claimed to cut clean from feudalism
>>290305949>Ashita no Joe was an icon among the Japanese student movement but still follow the bushido.I always found Joe to be remarkably apolitical. There were many points in the story where it could have taken a political stance but after Riikiishi dying i really cant see much any political movement could draw from. Its honestly very hard to imagine communism ever succeeding in Japan the way it stood at the end of WW2. Japan has some pro social policies but i dont really see such a culture thats revolves around pride and shame adopting communism. Unless there was some genocidal Mao figure willing to essntially burn most japanese culture like they did in China, but Japan was too weakened at the end of ww2 for such a figure to appear.
>>290285283any super gay stuff with an older guy and a younger guy? i haven't had any good homo smut in a while.
>>290305998internet's filled with retards bro, it is what it is
>>290285347>>290285607>>290285683So, am I the only one who actually reads Mishima's works and can name anime directors?Fuck this uncultured, uneducated hell.
>>290306474Most of /a/ can't read unfortunately
>>290285283Not really, shigurui criticizes and debase the shit out of samurai system and culture. Mishima would hate it even if he secretly like the art.
>>290306175Communism in Japan pretty much imploded. I recommend Koji Wakamatsu's United Red Army to know more about ithttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7Z5U9G8D-o
>>290289011>>290289206but what happened in the sweltering summer heat of 92?
>>290284084No one wants that fascist incel's works to be adapted
>>290306712 stop larping most leftists these days wanna fuck him because they think estrogen could've saved him or whatever
>>290284084If only his estate wasn't so protective of his ip. Even stage plays of his stuff are very costly. An anime would only happen if it was given a huge budget and the best in the industry worked on it.>>290284156Oshii and someone else, it'd be collaborative.
>>290284084Yabako Sandrovich
>>290284084No one cares about some incel chud slop and no one's wants this filth to ever be adapted into anything.
>>290307041You lost the culture war, losers like you are now fading into irrelevance. Get bent.
>>290303439Nationalism and fascism are fundementally intertwined ideological structures. He like fascist aesthetics because he was a fascist. It's not complicated.
>omg i hate communists guys kill commies!>but Putin the KGB agent is based>but China is based>but North Korea is based>but Cuba is based>but Vietnamese were based>but Venezuela dindunuffin>but saddam was based>but Assad was based>but Nasser was based>but the PLO is based and I worship Palestinians>but gadaffi is based>but the IRA was based What communist country does modern /pol/ even hate?
>>290307686Anon I understand that you're uneducated but no one in academia calls him a fascist.>nationalism and fascism are intertwinedOh I'm laffin, never reply to me again
>>290284084Gay fashy nerd couldn’t even kill himself properly
>>290307742Cutting edge right wing rejects western liberalism on the basis of lack of christianity or demographics and in theory a collapse of the west could have this domino effect in which it is restored to be this fascist thing or a theocracy. I don't agree we can engineer it by losing but hating Washington isn't without basis and there is a possibility it works I guess. Also a lot of them hate raycissism and if christian or reactionary and conservative/historically not antinationalist its ok to them. Which covers most of the stuff mentioned because historically for example immigration control is not an issue in third worlds or they are anti immigration to protect workers. Silly people but its fun mental masturbation
>>290284084He's an incel piece of shit
>>290284084>why doesn't anyone want to adapt reactionary rightoid /pol/ slop???/pol/ tourists really ruined this site
>>290307804RIP Bozo. Your fandom is now mostly white incels.
>>290307922Hopefully some of them follow his example.
>>290288842No one cares to read about some fascist piece of shit, fuck off.
>>290307980They all end that way eventually. Reality sets in through death. They'll die knowing everything they loved has been replaced and that no woman ever wanted them. Fitting end for white incels
>>290308080White girls have no interest in them. So now you see all of these nazi chuds white rejects screaming on twitter about "brown men are stealing their women".
hello intelligence community friends,
>>290308104Brown men lead the incel/neo Nazi movement now. Fuentez is Mexican and homosexual, Owen’s is a black woman, Tucker Carlson is converting to Islam
>>290284084After reading some of his stuff and specially sun and steel, this guy just felt like a XX century japanese incel.I will never understand whats so amazing about him.
>>290308214He is an incel, he was such a big incel he literally coped by being gay. His shit reads like crap written by a highschool loser seething about being bullied. It's by all definitions slop for chuds especially white ones.
>>290307898He was a fascistHis following is fascistsThis is fine, he would be fine
>>290308214He's a weird ass Japanese ultranationalist boot that didn't get to rape and pillage as much as he dreamt of by virtue of being a weird, sickly nerd that got sent home after being drafted by a doctor who either just assumed such a weak child had tuberculosis or knew the war was lost and he'd die for the zealotry of power mad despots.Had this idiot seen the result of his ideals I doubt he'd have been so enthusiastic about them. But at least he got to kill himself like he always wanted
>>290300467source?
>>290304983I liked it, defenitely something I'm going to rewatch some day
>>290307783>one in academia calls him a fascist.Is that what people do? Just go on the internet and tell lies?
>>290284084Yukio in Baki when?
>>290284084Shinbo
>>290306667I was born. On the 15th of August 1992.
Why is there just a faggot having a prolonged conversation with himself?
>>290313458Mental illness
>>290306175>I always found Joe to be remarkably apolitical.And I find you to be remarkably blind and dumb.
>>290306474You're discovering it now? Most of this place is spiritually indian: retarded faggots latching to anime as self-medication for their loneliness and sexual frustration, obsessing about run-of-the-mill school romcoms.
>>290284084No one. Japan is dead
>>290303643I sure you understand not everyone was fond of it even though they tolerated it. Outside he's used as a figure to mock japanese right wing and fascism faction.
>>290306474>>290313754See you tomorrow
>>290307742>What communist country does modern /pol/ even hate?Their own state actually. Nowadays western establishments such as EU are basically worse nightmare that past people used to fear. Ironically chinese are more close to a nastoc state and they're not even evolving according to marxist ideal all else is just ccp larping.
>>290316111Many of those posts are copy and pasted from a Reddit thread. It's probably a schizo
>>290316395Or a bot
>>290284084oshii
>>290305998>does not mention any example for the right/a/ stopped being right-wing a long time ago /pol/tard. Now is moe-bot central.Right-wing anime fags are now on xitter, plebbit and discord as ironic as it sounds.Just look at OP necrobumping his thread lol.
>>290284084Be-Papas
>>290319827white losers think anime is some "based chud haven"
test
>>290284084There's an adaptation of The Sound of Waves in the Seishun Anime Zenshuu/Animated Classics of Japanese Literature series
Aoi Bungaku but with Mishima's worknever happening tho, he's still kinda taboo in Japan
>>290284084I could
>>290321363Aoi Bungaku would be sorta weird but I guess he could do it.
>>290319827Trvke. Especially the xitter part, entire swathes of that site are more racist and 'woke' (in the right wing flavor) than the entirety of 4chan
>>290324290Rightoids are a plague, once we take back power they will never get power again and continue to seethe about "much great replacement".
>>290284084Miyazaki
>>290284713>uenolol, lmao even
>>290326927ueno is good though, you can't name anything from him that's bad either because his portfolio is majority kino
>>290284084Fuck fascists
>>290327820Don't threaten him with a good time
>>290328346You will die alone
>>290284084>mishimaTekken anime when
>>290291965>did Nietzche do his compulsory military serviceYes, but he got kicked out due to an injury and that's why he became a philosopher. He also volunteered as a medical assistant in the Franco-Prussian war.
Is there any detailed accounts about his death? I heard the guy who was supposed to behead him didn't do it right. Must have been agony having your neck partially severed.
>>290325037>>290327820The more brown and leftist japan gets the moore anime and japanese media starts to suck.. Leftist anime/manga fans don't seem to get its the product of a conservative racial homogeneous country(b-but there is black people in in the city center of tokyo!)
Didn't they shadowban Paul Schrader for making the Mishima movie?
>>290330932Schrader is working overtime to shadowban himself, like making a movie called "the Card Counter". And it's about poker.
>>290330646Leftists made anime
>>290325037There is no "we" nor is there any meaningful power transfer taking place, only rich people pulling strings in a puppet show
>>290330646>conservative racialBased Weekly Shonen Magazine keeping bushido traditions alive!Fuck tranny jump magazine!
>>290331053It was pretty decent tho
>>290284084he was gay so a really gay studio like science saru
>>290330646Follow your leader or eat shit rightoid
>>290331937>your leaderWho would that be?
>>290331996>rightoid is so braindead he doesn't even know the phraseFigures
>>290332033>your leader>your hero>your idolSeems like a lot of projection by leftists.
>>290284084Maybe as a Yoshiyuki Tomino if you leave the script to someone else. Kunihiko Ikuhara and Usamaru Furuya would be great doing an adaptation at least artistically but they'd change things to make it obvious Mishima was in the wrong
>>290307742Capitalism has become such a nightmare that it unironically makes communism look appealing. Most of those people are/were based if you ever actually read about them beyond what the US propaganda machine tells you.
>>290332491Like every directionless /pol/tard you like them for how they shat on browns and homosexuals, not for their economic policy (i.e the real core of their ideology)
>>290291187Mishima got bullied a lot as a kid and even missed out on military service because he was too frail. It takes motivation to hit the gym, especially back then, and he was motivated to improve his physique.
>>290332523>you like them for how they shat on browns and homosexualsCommunism isnt determined to make everything shit to appease a handful of shareholder kikes. When you learn that 1 company (Blackrock) owns 80% of the stock market, you know something is fucked.
>>290332523Because it only works with white/asian people. If the people are garbage it doesn't work.
>he was gayAnd yet for being a supposed gay man, he still had more kids than you ever will. Plus a wife that vehemently denied he was gay.
>>290332619Believe whatever helps you sleep at night
>>290284156>a leftoidhaha not at all.oshii would end up being a case where """history""" remembers how mishima was "successfully" adapted whereas he was really betrayed in one faggy way or another.
>>290332758>brown communism>shit where nothing works>german and east asian communism>good
>>290330535> I heard his gay lover who was supposed to behead him didn't do it right.fixed that for you
>>290332791Who are you quoting
>>290330535
There is no political system that would make brown countries not shit, besides getting ruled by more capable people.
>>290316245>>290332491>>290332607So communism is good then. Whats with pretending to be anti-communist? Why is this guy so heckin based for killing communists?
>>290332758Hes not exactly wrong though? Russia isnt self imploding and China isnt even functionally communist anymore. Both countries kicked out the jews that tried to control them through a shitty ideology, Capitalism will never.
>>290332879If the people are shit it doesn't matter what system, it will always be shit.
>>290332872Keep repeating it Timmy, you'll manifest it into reality someday (along with your mommy dommy goth gf)
>>290332891No matter how much hatred you have in you, you must concede that any intellectually honest person would agree that "garbage" is as meaningless a descriptor as it gets; I would at least understand if it spat up IQ infographics from the bottomless pit where its soul should be
>>290332983I have admittedly low standards for what constitutes a valid argument and you did not manage to clear even one of them
>>290291187Mishima was ripped for the same reason /fit/ is. Faggotry.
What a shit thread. Mishima deserves better
>>290285283ThisAlso any anime with shotas and twinks.
>>290333650he lead a failed coup so he can senpoker himself in an attempt to satisfy his twisted sexual fantasies. He deserves nothing.
>>290333877You will never be a woman
>>290332870Hearing about his fascination with suicide and even roleplaying seppuku in his bdsm play, had me wondering if the whole thing was some sick sexual rp that gone too far.
>>290299304They did make an anime of Sound of Waves in the 80s, which seems hard to find by today, pic related is the one shitty pic i could find.
>>290308249>He is an incel>wife>two kidsThat's farther away from incel than the average 4chan user will ever be.
>>290332983>thread dies after this post is deleted (his dumb ass probably got banned)Really makes you wonder how many threads on this site are just retards talking to themselves endlessly
