>>290289050
There’s also the weird part about how she says that she had always wanted to be a housewife have a steady family but was a whore anyways? Idr get it. Beats me.

it's just a drawing bro

>>290289050
>>290289669
sex feels good

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>>290289050
There is an exception. If a girl had sex for pleasure but didn't get emotionally involved in relationships

>>290289761
Ok but you don’t get to complain about being used goods after the fact. Spare me the pity party.

>>290289788
Elinalise had sex because her heart would’ve literally shut down if she didn’t due to the curse. Even then Cliff is a trooper for not minding the fact that she was taking 15 men at a time seven days a week 24 hours a day for centuries

>>290289702
A drawing who the writer expects me to have sympathy for

>>290289050
is this her first time trying to not be a whore? there's a first for everything

>>290289833
Don't worry it won't happen to you

>>290290610
Her gimmick is that she slept with every man who ever asked her out, but only once, and then she immediately breaks up with them. This guy refuses to sleep with her to defend her virtue or whatever, so she decides to stop being a whore. That’s the plot

>>290289884
>for centuries
what happened then? Did Cliff break the curse or just started fucking her himself?

>>290290915
Keep throwing dollars at that only fans big boy I’m sure she’ll chat with u eventually

>>290289050
I'd be more worried if she had sex with one guy for several years vs having sex with several different men

>>290290959
Cliff worked on a cure for the curse but yes he does have a ton of sex with her as often as he can. But when he’s out of town he told her that it’s ok for her to use bulls. In the novel she gets pregnant(it’s cliffs), but he automatically assumes it’s someone else’s(Rudy’s, specifically), so it’s clear he’s still got insecurity over it even if he truly does love her

>>290290930
It been awhile since this show I thought the guys would break up with her shortly after? If she was doing the breakup then wow.

Reminder that they have been dating for multiple years at this point and she still hasn't fucked him

>>290289788
That's worse.

>>290291026
If it was just a generic slut I’d agree with you but we are talking truly next level stuff. Her body count before even entering college was like 100+ and she didn’t even have her anal virginity left.

Its so bad that her simp has to constantly think of “things she hasn’t done before”whenever they are on dates just to keep her from having emotional breakdowns

It’s a very strange show. She assures the audience that what she truly wanted was to be someone’s wife the entire time so I’m not sure why she couldn’t just be normal about it instead of an actual pornstar tier

>>290289050
>/r9k/ thread nr 34565474764

>>290290989
non sequitur

No hymen means not worth my time

>>290291079
Why don’t they just get married so she can be his reformed trad wife or whatever

>>290291165
is it written by a woman?

>>290291394
I would be ok with a widow. I can’t blame a woman for having sex with her husband. Maybe that’s a controversial middle ground take idk.

>>290291439
Probably? A lot of shows where the female character is sexually active but feels bad about it are written by women. Most of them don’t really like to write women who are proud to be sluts. It’s always that they regret being sluts.

The female lead’s problem here is that she decided(not sure why?), that giving men her body up front would lead to respect and romance afterwards instead of them just treating her like a hooker(the opposite happened, obviously)….instead of like, starting with romance and then working towards intimacy that way.

>>290290989
>you're a virgin
>no, YOU'RE a virgin
this is why I love /a/

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The only good redeemed slut story

>>290291439
the authors name is 長岡マキ子 or Nagaoka Makiko so yes

>>290291646
A lot of these shows and manga come off as female authors who opened their legs to everyone while young and are now unmarried cat ladies or trapped in loveless marriages where their husbands go on compensated dating and it’s them venting

>>290289050
I don't understand why these threads exist. People don't even watch the show, they just talk about made-up real life stuff they read online.

>>290291671
I don't follow your logic. So every yakuza Manga is made by real yakuza and every serial killer manga is made by a real serial killer?

>>290291685
Because there’s nothing to talk about in this show. The girl is just a brainlet who treats the revelation that she’s not just a flesh hole as a major source of wisdom. No shit bitch. You aren’t deep.

>>290291414
>reformed trad
Never happened.

>>290291685
This is a thread for complaining about women, not about the show. Like, it’s even funnier to me because the scene is obviously meant to appeal to a male audience with a slut correction fetish instead of being a fantasy for a promiscuous woman.

>>290291717
>So every yakuza Manga is made by real yakuza and every serial killer manga is made by a real serial killer?

No, but if there’s a consistent pattern of a certain type of person writing a certain type of narrative, it’s worth considering

Very few anime with a sexually promiscuous female protagonist treat her hyper-sexuality as a virtue, it’s usually something she’s secretly ashamed of(as here), or something she’s is cured of by the “right guy”. There’s a weird touchiness where they seem to be conceding the point.

>>290291768
>Because there’s nothing to talk about in this show
That is obviously false, but series has multiple light novel volumes, if you actually engaged with the work there would be plenty to discuss.
>The girl is just a brainlet who treats the revelation that she’s not just a flesh hole as a major source of wisdom.
But it is true. Many people, both women and men, reduce themselves to their sexual experiences. This is an extremely complicated topic, as factors such as culture, biology and real-life relationships can influence those beliefs.

>>290291830
>because the scene is obviously meant to appeal to a male audience with a slut correction fetish instead of being a fantasy for a promiscuous woman.

I guess…? But the story doesn’t really play into that much since it tries to do this weird thing where she never wanted to be a slut to begin with and it just sort of happened because she is stupid and associated men wanting to fuck her as inherently romantic

>>290291952
The author has an incredibly fucked up relationship with sex and intimacy.

>>290291834
>Very few anime with a sexually promiscuous female protagonist treat her hyper-sexuality as a virtue, it’s usually something she’s secretly ashamed of(as here), or something she’s is cured of by the “right guy”. There’s a weird touchiness where they seem to be conceding the point.
This is incorrect. There are thousands of series like this, and they take different approaches: in some, the portrayal is negative, in others is neutral and in others it is positive. You probably never engage with the other stories because they don’t appeal to you at a glance, but the series with cute big boobs gyaru characters do appeal to you, so you only read those. As a result, you assume everything is similar to those series.

>>290291894
>Many people, both women and men, reduce themselves to their sexual experiences. This is an extremely complicated topic, as factors such as culture, biology and real-life relationships can influence those beliefs.

Sure. But I don’t think many people who are psychologically well adjusted would try to seek romance using the same strategy of sleeping with someone on the first date dozens of times when it has already failed dozens of times. Especially when you try to convince the audience over and over again that you are only doing this because you want to be someone’s apron wearing home maker.

>>290291165
Kek who was this shit even written for. It just sounds like the authors trauma dump for being a bpdemon whore in her early 20s

>>290291952
>>290291976
Stop doing this. This is a story, the author is telling a story. If you read it, you learn more about the characters and why they act or think the way they do.
>The author has an incredibly fucked up relationship with sex and intimacy.
You never do this, you don't assume that what the author writes are their actual real life beliefs

>>290291952
>it just sort of happened because she is stupid and associated men wanting to fuck her as inherently romantic
>she was just confused until the right guy (me) came along and corrected her
Again all part of the fantasy.

>>290292061
The story isn't the worst, but as the manga keeps going the worse it gets because their relationship keeps getting more and more unreasonable and insane. At this point, they're moved in togther and in uni after graduating college and go on overnight trips all the time and every chapter is "im feeling more and more ready to be intimate with you"

>>290292116
Plenty of authors are influenced by irl beliefs, and those stories are usually pretty clear about it

>>290292047
>But I don’t think many people who are psychologically well adjusted would try to seek romance using the same strategy of sleeping with someone on the first date dozens of times when it has already failed dozens of times.
Incorrect, humans will make the same mistake for decades thinking this time it will work.
>Especially when you try to convince the audience over and over again that you are only doing this because you want to be someone’s apron wearing home maker.
This actually happens in real life, just like men who think that giving women money or showing off their muscles and status will magically make girls like them.

>>290292122
I actually do think in a series like this that him refusing to sleep with her when she initially offers(affirming that he sees her as more than just a sex object), was kind of needed for her narrative to work, but I agree that it’s a little psychotic they couldn’t have just gotten hitched and had their big romantic bed scene together or whatever

>>290292061
I don't understand this way of thinking. It goes against all literature

>>290292226
Yea, it made sense at the start but as it kept going it became more and more unreasonable.

>>290289050
A woman who sleeps with men outside of marriage has the same value as a man who pays for everything for a women outside of a marriage contract.
The difference is that the first will not commit financially while the second will not commit sexually. These are people coming to a negotiation table without anything to bargain so they can only strike a good deal if the other side is naive.

>>290292226
>but I agree that it’s a little psychotic they couldn’t have just gotten hitched and had their big romantic bed scene together or whatever
Sex doesn't work like hentai-logic. Having sex doesn't mean you will connect emotionally or enjoy it. I think porn destroyed people understanding of sex, they always talk about it like is something that has 0 effect on you as a person

>>290292249
>all literature

Off the top of my head, Harry Potter, one of the most successful book series of all times was written as a direct reference and analogy to Rowling’s own experiences in boarding school.

>>290292325
hearing virginal zoomers deny that sex and physical intimacy has 0 effect on relationships is always a hilarious riot. you're the exact same type of person who says you need consent at every step when you're with your partner.

>>290292325
>Sex doesn't work like hentai-logic. Having sex doesn't mean you will connect emotionally or enjoy it

I agree? But they are already explicitly in love and committed to each other. The only reason they haven’t had sex yet is because the guy is very conservative with his sexual mores and wants to wait until marriage.

>>290292380
>wants to wait until marriage
No, it's "i will wait until she is ready" and she is never ready

>>290289050
>ANY first times
damn bitch, you got fucked in both ears?

>>290292343
>Off the top of my head, Harry Potter, one of the most successful book series of all times was written as a direct reference and analogy to Rowling’s own experiences in boarding school.
Anon that doesn't prove me incorrect. Every author use their knowledge and experiences to write stories, that doesn't mean the story represents their real life beliefs. You are confusing this, you are talking like these are not different things

I guess I’m just naive but I do feel a little sorry for her. Like yeh she was stupid but it makes me a little angry that so many men would treat a woman this way. I don’t want to see a pretty girl ugly cry because she’s realized that she wasted her time being a meaningless hooker when she could have had a meaningful relationship. It’s really disturbing to me on a chivalric level, both that and the fact that the men just didn’t care.

>>290289050
>Woman thinks her personal worth is intrinsically tied to her sexuality…for some reason?
But it's true. Would you marry a prostitute?

>>290292380
>>290292421
>and she is never ready
That is normal. A bad experience can damage your mental health and your understanding of sex. You are thinking with porn logic. Having sex, even with someone you love, is not 100% guaranteed to work. Many couples break up because they think sex is magic. They think “We love each other, so we will have ten hours of sex and ten orgasms per minute.” Those people often end up with terrible sex lives, resenting each other, and eventually breaking up. Love is not some secret magic that makes sex good.

>>290292437
It’s a little insane to me that they needed to include that detail yeah

>>290292606
>Would you marry a prostitute?
This was and is still super common. Celebrities and people with a lot of power do it all the time

>>290292611
you're the only one with pornbrain, raped-chan. sex is a normal part of a relationship and witholding it indefinitely is not healthy or respectful.

>>290292606
I was more referring to the fact that she herself seemed to think that the only way she could ever get a guy to like her is by giving him her body. Like that’s the baseline assumption that she was operating from on what guys wanted from a potential girlfriend, instead of like emotional intimacy or getting to know them. The character did not think that she had any inherent worth outside sex.

>>290292474
>she wasted her time being a meaningless hooker
I don't understand why people keep calling her a hooker. Didn't anyone actually watch the series? She never asked anyone for money. In fact, she spent her own money on her boyfriends because she wanted to be a good girlfriend.

Yea, the story is the same "naive girl gets taken advantage of until she meets Nice Boy" and now instead she takes advantage of him by using him as a therapist and emotional sponge

>>290292774
Hooker is being used as slang for slut here. Come on anon lol.

>>290292611
>>290292691

This is sort of arguing at cross purposes here. It is normal for two people who are in love to want sex. Both characters are established to be in love and be sexually attracted to one another. The main problem is that I suppose she has a psychological block on sex now because of how traumatized she is by being turned into a merry go round pump and dump machine. In that case yeh, I guess it’s moral to let her wait. Idk know if that’s the established reason she is hesitant now

>>290292691
>sex is a normal part of a relationship and witholding it indefinitely is not healthy or respectful.
Having sex when you are not ready can only end in disaster. You are not taking sex seriously. You sound like the type of guy who would use her, get bored, and then throw her away.

>>290292606
I literally fell in love with a prostitute...
she hanged herself 3 years ago. It still hurts. I feel like I could've saved her

>incel thread

>>290292870
>Idk know if that’s the established reason she is hesitant now
It's "I need to sell more chapters and if they fuck I will be out of a job" justification. it's never ever adequately justified why they don't fuck considering how often she talks about wanting to fuck him but giving 0 reason why she doesn't besides the vague "soon, soon~"

There's no internal conflict about her doubts of him leaving, there's no worries about him turning into a cold guy who only wants sex, she just doesn't fuck him because the author says so.

imagine how much like a hentai ova her life was. she got run through in so many ways she's got nothing left to give. it even takes Fat Bastards a while to take it that far, but she's already there. The only thing she had never had was a monk who didn't want to touch her at all (ever) so he IS a first if you really think about it. Damn that's deep he's taking her last first

>>290292870
>Idk know if that’s the established reason she is hesitant now
For the first time, she is placing a new kind of value on sex(thanks to her new boyfriend the MC), and like someone handling a fragile vase, she is afraid she might break it if she is not careful. For example: “They have sex, he doesn’t like it, and they break up because of it”

>>290292904
This is correct, but the readers being frustrated is perfectly correct. He held back from casually fucking her because he wanted to respect her as a person and not a pussy(a unique experience for her, and the catalyst for their relationship), but now it’s been years of them telling the reader how much they are in love and nothing has happened.

If the author wants them to wait until they’re married to make a point then that’s fine! But it should just go ahead and happen. We shouldn’t be rehashing trauma from the first chapters.

>>290292988
>imagine how much like a hentai ova her life was
Why? Her life was nothing like a hentai. I don't understand why you are trying to use porn-logic for this work

>>290293024
>For the first time, she is placing a new kind of value on sex(thanks to her new boyfriend the MC), and like someone handling a fragile vase, she is afraid she might break it if she is not careful. For example: “They have sex, he doesn’t like it, and they break up because of it”

This is fine, narratively, but it doesn’t need to be stretched out for the sole purpose of selling more books and it certainly should not be the impression he has left on her given how absurdly out of his way he’s gone from day 1 to make her feel like a special sugar plum princess.

These are not concerns that should be popping up years down the line. It would make sense that they had like a pact together to wait until she was wearing his ring and pretty romantic, but that’s not even what’s happening.

>>290293033
>We shouldn’t be rehashing trauma from the first chapters.
It depends on the work. There are people in real life that they 30+ years to fix a traumatic experience

>>290293144
Except she's not traumatized by her starfish sex experiences, she just regrets them.

>>290293112
Hundreds of men across town got to rawdog Creampie or her gag fuck or turned her anus inside out. Everywhere they go in town for the rest of their lives. A random passerby will note that she’s the girl who got a train ran on her by the entire soccer team without condoms

It’s beyond the pale and veers into comedy. Again, it’s not just that she was sleeping around. It’s the scale of what happened

Never read/watched this. Long shot, but for those who did, is she actually talking about virginity or something else like kissing/being in a relationship/whatever.

Go through ALL the tags on sadpanda. She did all that + all the shit that isn't even tagged because it's too niche. These are 700+ tags. Remember, ANY first times. Her bodycount easily has three zeroes, which means getting railed by at least 3 guys a day every day all year all in unique ways, but more realistically she got railed by 5 guys a day and some of them were freaky.

>>290293352
She means sex. The central premise of the show is that she is the school whore and has had sex with every man who ever asked her on the first date, and then falls head over heels for the first guy who turns down her offers of sex(because he actually likes her) on such a date, the MC

>>290293352
She would go out with boys who asked her out, then just lay on her back and get poked a few times until they came. She eventually meets MC and realizes she went about relationships all the wrong ways and regrets her behaviour before meeting him because she feels like the first real boyfriend she's had.

Then it gets really stupid and bad from then on.

>>290289050
The issue with these stories is the girl isn't just some girl who had an ex, instead often they are known as the school/town cumdump that was an easy lay. Idk why its always so extreme.

>>290293566
Madonna Whore Complex. Most men who this appeals to are (admirably) chivalrous at heart but believe that a woman who is willingly a cum dump must have some sort of emotional traumatic reason for doing so and needs rescuing and fixing, a service they can provide

>>290293566
The point of these types stories is their redemption and learning self-worth. If they weren't a megaslut then the story doesn't work.

>>290289050
This is just realistic female writing though

>>290293648
The story would be less annoying if she was just a normal slut who liked having lots of sex because it made her feel powerful and she enjoyed the act instead of the weird Freudian excuses they come up for her letting every guy who asks explode her asshole. At least then we wouldn’t have to deal with the fact that her character was so stupid that she did not understand the concept of a normal date instead of like a sex session.

>>290292905
she saved you, bro, from making a huge mistake

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>>290293747
Nanjou-san Wants to be Held is an ecchi sexcom with the same basic premise as "You Were Experienced; Our Dating Story" where the slut approaches the otaku who turned down her offer for sex, except she's not all that bothered by her promiscuous past even if she comes to regret it a bit. It feels way better written than most romcoms too since it doesn't have to deal with the whole "we can't have the couple fucking because what will we sell!?" problem and the couple actually works through their issues before taking that step, unlike the one in the OP.

>>290293467
What is her sad backstory that lead her to believe this is how emotional intimacy worked

>>290293911
I don't remember all that well, I think just the usual overhearing girlgossip about boys not liking girls who are frigid type stuff. It wasn't some big tragedy, she just thought she should put out because that's what couples so and if you're dating you're a couple

>>290289050
I enjoyed the thread because it was surprisingly civil, so I’ll end it here with the spoiler that they get married and have sex.

No first times? How much cum was this bitch swallowing?

>>290291044
he actually believes it's Rudy's since Rudy knew she was pregnant before he did and brought it up unprompted, thanks to a visit from a certain old man

>>290293693
I don’t think the average slut has had sex with literally every man in a town

>Woman thinks her personal worth is intrinsically tied to her sexuality…for some reason?
Same for men, but we get praised for fucking as many women as possible.

>>290294088
To an extent. Men who frequently cheat still get bad reputations tho.

>>290289050
>Woman thinks her personal worth is intrinsically tied to her sexuality…for some reason?
It’s human nature. Then again, it’s also human nature to not want to marry a literal whore.

>>290294144
>>290294088
Even if they don't cheat, mansluts do get bad reputations.

>>290294228
I don’t think op is saying that being a whore doesn’t lower her social status, it’s more that she herself seemed to have operated under the belief that her only potential value to a romantic partner was her vagina

>>290291144
>>290289884
>>290290959
>>290291044
>>290294012
Handholding and cuddles are more lewd than casual sex, for pleasure or due to the curse.
Whay love each other, and he is her first real husband.
And it's not cheating when it's about curse.

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>>290293983
That sucks. I actually really like the idea of sluts and prostitutes. Obviously, there are serious ramifications to sleeping around in real life, but in 2D, those consequences don’t exist, so it’s fun to explore those things without having to deal with them.

The obvious reply to this if you want to mind-shackle her is to say “yeah but I have all my first times left to give you”, like that’s the KO here right

>>290289050
It's weird because just a decade ago she'd be scorned, ostracized and her VA shamed to oblivion.

Now there's multiple 2DPD every season.

>>290291044
it's not insecurity if she gets railed by 10 guys anytime he's away lol he just did the math

>>290294380
Lise is dumb. She got mad that her close male friends kept falling in love with her after sex(obviously? I don’t know why that’s unanticipated?), so now she just uses random bulls

>>290294545
that happens when you sell a pure girl who was actually a hidden slut

they don't hide that here

>>290294430
>but in 2D, those consequences don’t exist
But you are wrong. Authors explore those consequences in the 2D world all the time

>>290294545
The basic concept of the show is that a whore is being fixed with romantic love so there’s not much of a surprise beyond the sheer scale of her whoredom

>>290293747
>The story would be less annoying if she was just a normal slut who liked having lots of sex because it made her feel powerful
Why you think that is a normal slut? Did you talk with all the sluts and you made calculations an the average is that type?

>>290294430
No. I hate prostitution as a concept. Every time I see some dumb feminist say “sex work” empowers women I'm reminded of a newspaper article about how a local hooker was tossed into a canal after being stabbed to deff by her pimp. I hate that people want to commercialize intimacy.

>>290294715
>Did you talk with all the sluts and you made calculations a the average is that type?

I don’t think most sluts are sluts because they believe that getting pounded out by random men will eventually lead to romantic and emotional fulfillment, as seemed to have been the case here.

> > 290294723
I hate it too. In real life, it involves human trafficking, drugs, sexual abuse, and sexually transmitted diseases. In 2D, though, it’s can be portrayed as something fun and exciting.

>>290294545
>because just a decade ago she'd be scorned, ostracized and her VA shamed to oblivion.
Why are you telling lies? in the past there were a bunch actual crazy sluts in anime and Manga. Who are these people that always spread this misinformation about crazy purity Otakus? That stuff only happened for some series and it was never too crazy, just some people spamming and complaining. I think the only case that was kinda serious was Haruhi VA because that happened in real life

>>290294797
>I don’t think most sluts are sluts because they believe that getting pounded out by random men will eventually lead to romantic and emotional fulfillment
Some of them do. This feels like an excuse for men that take advantage of girls that thinks sex will make men love them

>>290294881
sluts like that are usually victims of sexual assault and are broken people
then there are also sluts who just like sex and want to be fucked

>>290294824
>In real life, it involves human trafficking, drugs, sexual abuse, and sexually transmitted diseases
It depends on the time and place. Is not always like that.

>>290294907
>sluts like that are usually victims of sexual assault and are broken people
Sometimes is not assault, you understand that a lot of men want to create sluts. They tell them "my previous girlfriend wasn't like that" or "don't waste my time"

>>290294824
I remember once looking up escort pages and made I closed that shit after a few minutes because you could tell so many of these girls were being shipped around and pimped out and it felt so dirty even just reading the descriptions.

>>290294881
>This feels like an excuse for men that take advantage of girls that thinks sex will make men love them

I don’t think anyone seriously discussing the topic would deny that men being willing to indulge women like this is part of the problem. The men who were willing to sleep with her only to immediately dump her right after were not serious people in their own right

The problem is that she has no reason for such an extreme mindset. “The only thing men want from women is sex” is not a mindset that a normal personal develops without some sort of trauma

>>290295022
>The problem is that she has no reason for such an extreme mindset. “The only thing men want from women is sex” is not a mindset that a normal personal develops without some sort of trauma
Why are you commenting about a series you didn't watch.

The biggest problem with these type of threads is that people didn't read the series. Runa Shirakawa's parents divorced due to an affair by her father.

>>290295114
Good. Dumb bitch deserved it

>Japanese couple being upset about an affair

lol they all do it nobody takes marriage vows seriously there. Everyone has a favorite call girl and all the wives get railed by their managers

>>290293911
She's insecure and thinks "if I don't let this guy fuck me he'll break up with me" and then they fuck her and break up with her anyway.
Apparently she never thought to change her strategy.

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>>290295244
I don’t like the portrayal of the men here desu. Shitheads exist but male loneliness epidemic is real, at least a couple of them had to have wanted more than just a lay by the math

>>290295276
this happened at the end of middleschool/start of highschool

horny boys are gonna be horny boys

>>290295321
Not sure how that's relevant. If a 10/10 let me I'd never leave her.

>>290295431
>If a 10/10 let me I'd never leave her.
That is fantasy, real life doesn't work like that

>>290295504
I cannot comprehend a scenario where I would have sex with a supermodel and never contact her again but to each his own I guess

>>290295431
If a girl let me hold hands, gave me hugs and become a couple I'd never leave her.

>>290295540
Supermodelds are not so attractive to me

How is it even possible for her to have nothing left? Like, does she have anal fissures now? How freaky was this bitch?

Did they not understand how insane this line sounds?

>>290294723
I mean you could probably find 100 different stories of delivery boys getting their head blown off on the job aswell.

>>290292905
My uncle left his w8fe for a stripper

>>290295648
Are you autistic? Only autistic people have problems with that line

>>290296033
it's a reoccuring joke, this thread has been surprisingly normal and an actual discussion of the manga, similar stories and real life scenarios.

normally it's just shitposting about unhinged doujin tags that she's done

There are 2 kinds of real sluts in these non porn manga/ln/anime. At least who are love interests or main characters with a significant focus on them, their actions and consequences or are the major object of the story.
The first type is the good girl who got the wrong idea and is still or was stupid, she is super sad about it and wants to be fixed and loved. These girls look and act nice and kind and are there to be nurtured and loved. The blond girl is here.
The second type is the stupid evil girl like in that manga where the childhood friend gf cheats on her bf and fucks the popular douche in school and ruins his life. These are revenge bait, the guy gets a better, cuter, actually loving gf who starts of as a supporting friend. She fixes him and he gets the actual gf he deserves while the whore ruins her life, her family, gets abandoned and becomes hated and getting more and more deranged as everything unravels around her because the world and his social circle denies her attempts to make good on her "mistake"

There are girls who look slutty and act all touchy but are total pure virgin saints who are half aware of how they look and act but they are such nice girls you would never, this is the modern generalist pure gyaru girl in 90% of the manga that covers a "loser x gyaru" relationship.
I did not count the characters who are whores for fun as these are mostly on the side of erotica or the elf woman from mushoku, but her "condition" is a curse and she still wants to get fixed, other whores who just fuck around are just that, whores.

>>290292905
>I literally fell in love with a prostitute...
lmfao

>>290295787
>delivery boys
There are some series like that but nobody wants to translate it them. I know some but /a/ doesn't let me post images for some reason

>>290296410
This is extremely common. There are famous books and movies about the topic

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>>290289050
>1 girl made sure 100s of guys werent virgins anymore
super based

>>290296949
This is why slutty gyarus are best girls

>>290296615
Something happened to your post anon

>>290295648
I bet she's never had sex with a woman. But she can't give the MC that...

>>290296490
It's still funny

>>290297343
I don't understand the joke

>>290297581
Falling in love with a prostitute

>>290297667
Okay. When is the funny?

>haha I’m a whore

>>290289788
Do you think she does soft femdom netorase-play with Cliff? God he's so lucky.

>>290296410
rude
>>290293757
man...

How many varieties of herpes

>>290292664
>Celebrities and people with a lot of power
I asked if (You) would. Celebrities you are talking about chest in general. Anyway, anyone marrying a prostitute will have a bad rep.

>>290292905
Loving one =/= marrying one.

>>290291952
Wasn't the thought process
>girl commits to dating guy -> dating means sex at some point or another -> guy inevitably wants sex -> can't be a prude to the bf because that's unfair to him -> sex the bf
And then the bf dumps her because he didn't want to commit, he just wanted to fuck a hot girl

>>290297684
Him.

>>290295648
she probably doesn't have a vivid imagination so you can waive the more extreme tags, but it's 100% certain she got fucked in every hole

>>290298744
The problem isn’t that she thought a romantic relationship included sex it’s that she thought you needed to lead with sex to get a guy

>>290298744
If not one out of a thousand guys wanted to do it twice, fucking a hot girl must suck.

>>290298920
This is what I’m talking about desu. Not a single guy ever called her back? Ever?

>>290292022
>thousands
>lists zero examples
>ignores context
You are an incredible bullshitter.

>>290289050
>>290289669
Absolute trash writing.

>>290299147
A lot of people here haven’t mentioned that Her father cheated on her mom because the mom *stopped putting out*. This led to a messy divorce, which is the root of her weird psychosis and warped understanding of romance. She legitimately thought that a guy cannot be interested with or want to stay with a woman unless she immediately opens her legs.

>>290299202
Most of 4chan already thinks like this so I don't know why they're confused that the love interest also thinks this way too

>>290299338
I don’t think most of 4chan thinks the ideal woman puts out on the first date

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Luna is so pretty.
You wouldn't REALLY miss out on a beautiful and sweet girl like her just because she slept with a few other guys before right?

>>290299419
If I was in love with this whore i probably would, realistically, but I’m not so yk not rlly. Sorry you have the pussy of a washed up porn star

>>290299202
People are mostly doing it for the slut memes, the miles of dick and the all the tags posts are not genuine plot related discussions. The girl has a fucked up view on what romance is and what love is and is kinda desperate to get that. Her saving grace is that she is legitimately a sweet and caring girl that most people will be pretty happy to have. Also I can't remember if they ever specify, i think they never do but the amount of guys she dated can't be all that big. Her friend implied the number wasn't that high, she dated like 3-4 guys probably.
Also i think but don't quote me on it, she never sucked anyone and she fucked them dead fish style.

>>290299419
Most people wouldn't, fuck most i would hope are in their 30s here and a girl having a 3-4 relationships that went for 4+ years on average at our age is not that bad of a deal.

Volumes 1-5:

They get together, date, the most they get is kissing, eventually the girl realizes that because she fell in love with him and because she thinks sex stuff is too embarrassing they never do it (to the point where she is too embarrassed to hold hands with him after realizing he masturbates using that hand), and by the time she WANTS to have sex with him (despite it not being her first time), they're already graduating high school...

Volumes 6 and first chapter of 7 explanation:

But they never do. The one time they try to go to a love hotel, he gets cockblocked by a phone call telling him his mom has cancer, but it turns out to be just a preventative surgery. They haven't had sex yet despite being together for over 4 years, adults, and both wanting it because her step-mom gave birth some time after their graduation and she either is either constantly busy at work or with her baby step-siblings every day. Meanwhile MC is constantly either jealous or horny for his GF and is having constant doubts about their future and relationship...

Spoilers for 7 and part of 8:

After an entire volume of buildup, during a holiday getaway they were about to have sex in the last chapter of 7, but got cockblocked by Runa getting her period on. She offered to give him a blowjob but even that got cockblocked by their friends, who were going out with each other for a few months by that point, calling them in panic that the girl got pregnant. Not sure who's more cockblocked at this point - MC or the readers...

8:

Still no sex, Runa suddenly wants to wait for marriage because she's afraid of getting pregnant as well Friends tell Runa that she should have sex with MC because he's a guy and they've been dating for several years now, while she wants HIM to tell HER that he wants to have sex... so it's a teenage, not adult, kind of situation.

I want to say >woman author but the fags writing isekai narou do the same exact shit. What's wrong with some of these japs?

>>290299565
Cuck shit. She took hundreds minimum.

>>290299565
how does the any first times line make any sense if she dated 4 guys and she only did normal sex with them? surely she could tell MC he can get her anal virginity

>>290299780
He’s legitimately coping. It’s established immediately that she’s the school whore and has slept with minim dozens of guys, probably into the hundred range, because she always puts out on the first date and always accepts an offer for a date.

>>290299625
I had read up until the cancer scare and then intentionally never went back because that fucking manga was raising my blood pressure with its contrived cockblocking. The pregnancy scare and refual to fuck until marriage reminds me of another romcom where the couple are refusing to get together because of that reason but its name escapes me at the moment.

>>290299863
The marriage thing is fine, it fits the narrative. The baseline of their relationship was the MC turning down her initial offer of easy sex, They just simply should have been married already. The series goes on for too long.

>>290299912
The marriage thing isn't fine because it's just the latest excuse. Same with the refusal to admit she's ready all while he's the one whose been waiting for her after telling her he will wait for her to be comfortable.

>>290289833
Welcome to women

This show is just Scott Pilgrim but worse and without anime fight scenes

How many trains do you think she was running a week

Earnest question (not to be mistaken for a serious question). Are women capable of being something other than a mother or a whore? Children aren't women for the purpose of this question, and neither are corpses.

>>290300101
More than Shinjuku Station.

>>290300162
Men are the more romantic sex by far

>>290300390
She has herpes

Made for NTR doujin where he walks in on her with a whole squad of thugs

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>>290300408
Objectively untrue.

>>290300508
Anal fissures. Maybe even AIDS

Filthy whore

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>>290300549
Wrong again, on every count.

>>290300493
She's probably already done that before with her exes.

>>290300598
Used goods, she pisses liquids from other men

>>290299625
just reading your post spiked my blood pressure

So if she’s got no first times left to give, does that include Dutch ovens and pissplay?

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>>290300613
She's not "goods" she's a human being, and she doesn't do that other thing.

>>290299625
Why are japanese authors and editors like this

I remembered now, Tenshi is the other romcom where the couple are obviously primed to fuck but the author has to stop them otherwise their sales will suffer.

>>290300711
Correct she’s a human being who has allowed dozens of men who aren’t her husband to cum inside her butthole raw

>>290300711
Everyone is a good, see Human Resources section of your company

So this means she did like…gagball bdsm stuff with American tourists right?

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>>290300751
Nuh-uh.

>>290301149
Gagging and sobbing under old men

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>>290301191
Nope.

>>290301256
She has crabs

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>>290301390
Factually incorrect.

>>290301435
Skin rashes from all the paizuris she gave other dudes

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>>290301447
You can objectively see that's not true.

>>290301522
Meningitis from all the BJs and prolapsed anus

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>>290301539
All false.
Runa is your girlfriend now.

>>290301548
A good spot for a date cause she gave up her footjob virginity in the bushes. Moldy toes

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>>290301585
You and Runa are in love.

>>290289050
>man who hasn't spoken to women since his mom writes a bizarre purityfag savior complex romance
>men who haven't spoken to women since their moms sit around praising it like a documentary on the female creature
This rerun again.

>>290301609
We ran into at least a dozen of her anal sex partners at this party

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>>290301648
You and Runa are now married!
Runa is your loyal loving wife forever!

>>290301666
When we had sex on our wedding night, a gallon of used semen fell from her tunnel cunt

>>290299625
Several years of dating without fucking each other is a hell I wouldn't wish on anyone. Relationships cannot be sustained by good vibes for multiple years without having sex or there's high chance of one of them cheating on the other.

Why don’t they just get married at like a courthouse or something? Then they could have sex and complete their pact too

>>290301689
What's made even worse is that she constantly brings up her past of fucking while telling the MC to wait a little longer. So it's not just years of nosex, it's years of blueball teasing nosex

Does her anus leak poo

>>290299625
this is just a trash story, no one should read this garbage. Not every story deserves to be read

>>290301953
It just kinda suffers from the usual pitfalls of the inital premise being interesting enough to work but the author being too incompetent or indecisive to follow through. It only gets really bad when they timeskip high school graduation to them being in uni and they're still as chaste as elementary students.

How much vaginal reconstruction surgery

>>290302140
Enough to supply Subway with a year's worth of $5 footlongs and then some with the excess waste.

>>290289050
Everything?! Fucking in the middle of a crowded train. Fucking while skydiving. Fucking while committing murder. Damn, bitch. Damn.

>>290289050
Anime is an escape from whores that I deal with at work. So no I wouldn't take her but Id pump and dump.

>>290303705
Careful, she probably got tons of stds.

>>290296949
>>290297060
No she just slept with chad (who took the virginity of 100s of girls)

No first times at all? Including foot stuff?

>>290299635
It would be cuckshit if she was fucking someone while they were in a relationship.

>>290294361
Ah, makes sense.

>>290304036
You don't want to know where those feet have been.

>>290300722
Isn't the couple in that basically already primed to raise a family? It's not like the endgoal of a relationship has to be sex/marriage, Clannad was huge over 20 fucking years ago.

bump

>>290291165
Sounds like a pain.

>>290289050
Really? He can't even be her first peedrink or dirty asstomouth or ballsdeep gagging deepthroat puke? Girl when did you start?

was it genderslop? incelcore? slut-masochism? what do you call this genre?

>>290309847
the genre is called "i can fix her" and actually the most disgusting and foul things she's done the more you can fix her. that's why NTR always ends up going as gross as possible, even shit like throwing bitches in to a writhing mass of worms like Sakura. The more broken the better!

>>290289788
I feel like being a prostitute would be better desu

>>290309847
You call it bait and try your best not to bite

>>290291442
She'll never love you more than her dead husband. She would choose him over you every time. Imagine devoting your whole life to that

>>290310941
romantic love is a 19th century invention

>>290289050
>what went wrong with her
Being born a woman. That's it. All of them are like this, some just hide it better.

>>290310971
You're choosing to invest in someone who considers you 2nd place all the same. While it might not exactly be love, a girl feels raw desire for Chad

>>290291633
Based, is this worth picking up?

... we have this thread every month...

>>290289050
I think if you watch a lot of porn or hentai you are a bigger slut and more impure compared to real sex havers. You get off watching hundreds of thousands of strangers fuck. If you watch porn you're not a virgin in soul or mind and cannot offer that to your future wife.

>>290289050
Look I know that her show is fucking dumb, but why is this pic the only one from it I ever see? Get new material.

>>290289702
if you don't feel anything towards "drawings" then why bother being on /a/ which is all about "drawings"?

>>290310866
She was a proustite as well, and sex slave to boot.

>>290313542
i like it. slow as fuck releases though

>>290289050
>but I don't have any first times to share with you.
Damn, not even bootie?

>>290289050
>>290289669
>>290299147
>pretending this doesn't happen irl all the time

>>290289702
Go tell that to moralistic tourists first

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>>290313542
NTA, but that one page falls apart quickly. He says he doesn't want to, yet he quickly falls for her and gives her the time of day. In the first chapter he agrees to go out with her.

>>290316583
He agrees to date her to stop her pestering and make her realize it's pointless. He doesn't mean anything until much later once they start to move past their superficial facades

>>290292611
If people in a romantic relation and purposefully avoid having sex, either because they both agree or one of them blocks it, it's because there's something wrong with the relationship. I'm not even going to give any kind of leeway to allow you to say that it's subjective and some couples are different, that's just cope. Sex is a a skill like any other, and partners need to learn about each other through experience and openness, it's not like "it just werks or it doesn't". It can be clumsy at first, and then it starts working better. And sex is not just about lust and pleasure, it's also about feeling safe, commitment, warmth, being playful, etc.

>>290292474
To me what annoys me is this stupid naive notion of the "hopelessly romantic slut", either man or woman. Ooooh how I have been led astray just because I am desperate to be loved truly!...
Fuck off with that bullshit. Psople who are promiscuous do it out of lust or out of some psychological need of feeling desired by others. It's not a noble pursuit, it's a lowly one. If you act like a beast, expect to be treated as such.

Ooooh, I simply HAD to beat up and rob all those kids! I was so traumatized at home because my parents never gave me any love! Poor me! My behavior was justified, I was just looking for a true friend who would look past me shanking every guy in the playground! Lol

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>>290316703
So, in that image, his heart racing and him giving a reply without realizing, was part of his plan to agree to date her and get her to give up on him?

>>290316983
>if he isn't actively killing women he's a simploser
ok weirdo

>>290294723
Those idiot bitches were never the ones being abused by clients and slapped by the people who sell her as merchandise. They think it's just a libertarian entrepeneurial choice where the whore just chooses to transact access to her body in the utmost safe conditions.

>>290294881
You might not have realized this, but YOU are the one assuming whatever personal (or an acquaintance's) situation you have applies to sluts, when what you are describing is rarer than a homosexual who isn't also a pederast

>>290289050
I knew a girl just like this. She was the town bicycle all throughout her youth, like literally everyone who knew her, fucked her(yes, even me). Then at around 27 she started craving for a family but of course no guy who knew her wanted to seriously date her. She ended up "dating" a virgin 15 yo that split as soon as found out about her past, roughly 2 years in. She then ended up dating a dude from some other city with no friends in our city who knew nothing about her and got pregnant within 3 months of dating this dude. The dude proposed and since he's fat I bet he thinks he hit the lottery for dating her
Moral of the story: don't marry a woman with a past you don't know

>>290301689
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>>290301953
>>290302123
I think is fun. Relax and enjoy the comfy

>>290316708
Your mentality creates suicide cases

>>290316885
>To me what annoys me is this stupid naive notion of the "hopelessly romantic slut", either man or woman. Ooooh how I have been led astray just because I am desperate to be loved truly!...
It happens in real life and is fun to explore it in fiction

>>290317129
>but YOU are the one assuming whatever personal (or an acquaintance's) situation you have applies to sluts
Every situation applies to every person

>>290303705
>Anime is an escape from whores
Never true, they are a part of the medium since the 70s

>>290299780
>>290299814
Are you guys autistic?

No first times? Does that include ears and armpits?

>>290315280
Retard alert

>>290316072
some drawings are really pretty

>>290317305
Stuff like this is just alien to me. I don’t think I could use a woman for sex and just never talk to her again.

>>290289669
Sounds like realistic writing.

>>290316353
already did

>>290289050
Assuming she only had 1 or 2 boyfriends I'd be fine, "no first time to give you" sounds like a mega town whore.

Also the main issue here is that she's having a date with the dude, it's supposed to be a fun time and she goes "BUT WHAT ABOUT OTHER MEN PENISES?", retarded whore.

>>290317305
Why was she dating a 15 y/o at 27 with an expectation of starting a family?

>>290318547
She literally was a mega whore. Body count 100+, had sex with every man who ever asked her on a date and she never turned anyone down

>>290318584
?????? What is the point of that character in the story?

>>290318601
it's supposed to be a slut redemption story instead it turned into a laugh at the virgin moid story getting strung along

>>290290151
You should not treat fictional relationships with the gravity of real ones

>>290318565
Because no other dude would date her. She was very famous for fucking everybody and only the inexperienced teenager was dumb enough to actually date her. I assume her idea was to wait 5-7 years for the dude to grow up and marry him, I guess she was trying to groom him into marriage idk.
It was very funny, i remember she would come to our hangout bars with this dude who was going home early because he had school and she would leave the bar with other dudes lol.

>>290318601
The point is that she fell in love with the first guy who turned down an offer of sex from her because it helped her realize she’s more than a sex object or something

>>290318679
Unless she’s ugly or fat, it’s a little hard for me to believe that none of the army of guys she was apparently sleeping with, had any serious feelings for her beyond wanting sex

>>290317911
???

>>290318762
Nah, she wasn't either ugly nor fat, just mid. She was just that infamous. I know nowadays men have very little self respect anymore, but around 10 years ago when this happened, especially in the more toned down eastern european country I live in, men really didn't want to seriously date promiscuous women

>>290317977
Water is wet

>>290318876
I would simply not have sex with such a nasty woman, and the fact that you and your friends were passing around someone like that makes me lose respect for everyone involved frankly. Have some dignity. No nut is worth that

>>290318923
Meh, pussy is pussy. If you're drinking and partying and some chick comes and sucks your dick, I'm not gonna turn it down. Also you make it sound like we were at fault for what she was doing. Trust me, she was the one initiating and looking for hook ups. We used to hang out in these types of millennial rock/alt bars and there were 3 chicks that everyone knew were an easy lay and everyone was saying things just like you until they got drunk and one of those chicks were all over them.

>>290319069
I’m saying that I would not stick my dick in raw sewage, so no, pussy is not pussy

Some women are nasty

>>290319120
To each its own then. This is also some mentality I don't really get, but you do you.

>>290319165
I mean, the mentality is that I don’t want to share with every other guy in town because that’s weird but yes to each his own I guess

Not even blowing cum bubbles out her nose?

>>290319197
I dunno, maybe I'm too old but the way I always thought about this is kind of things is like about alcohol. The rare expensive one is just for you, the cheap shitty one, like beer, you drink with your buddies, so to speak.
Or maybe it's not an age thing, is a culture thing, here men still have nights out by of starting out drinking with the boys then finishing the night going to an escort(or the other way around if you don't know the escort well to let you come drunk). But in a lot of the west this is way of partying seems is completely gone.

>>290319069
Disgusting.

>>290319479
>going to an escort

Admitting that you habitually use prostitutes does not make me think better of you. What Warsaw ghetto are you from? That’s like lower than the nastiest sluts dude.

>>290319506
I'm not saying that to make you think better of me lol. I just find it weird that things that people did for millennia and were outlawed in the last 100 years(like brothels and prostitutes) at most have become so taboo so fast. I really think the simp epidemic with younger generations is because they're completely cut off from pussy. Reinstate brothels and have men easy access to sexual release and you fix all the modern simping. On the other hand Japan is full of brothels and my impression when I visited it was that the men there are even more pussy shipped than in the west

>>290318601
To teach virgin beta providers that if their girlfriend refuses to spread her legs for them while fucking every chad in sight that's just means they are special to her!

>>290319678
You sound African

>>290292904
>Having sex when you are not ready can only end in disaster. You are not taking sex seriously.
Spoken like a true inhabitant of a friendzone.

>>290319884
Well, I'm eastern European so close enough lol

>>290319884
Stop complimenting him.

So how many gangbangs did she have before settling for normie mc nice guy

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>>290289050
I don't have an issue with a girl having a body count since that's just one of those things you assume everyone has now on both sides, but I'd definitely have an issue with the girl going out of her way to tell me to my face "yeah I'm already used goods and you're getting the sloppy seconds". If I randomly told a girl with no buildup "yeah sorry, I know you want to do pegging with me but I already gave my asshole to a hairy old man. Guess you having sex with me isn't going to be that special :(" I'm not going to surprise Pikachu face when the girl gets icked out at me shoving me sexual history down her throat.

>>290320065
He knew she was a comical slut when he first asked her out because it was common knowledge

The issue with these slut love interest series is that they're actually bigger virgin fetishism stories than your average naroukei romcom. The driving factor behind a lot of them is that they let the scenario giving a guy with no redeeming features a perfect girlfriend by making her crippling flaw being her promiscuity.
And like, I'm not defending being a whore to be clear. Male or female, you can't trust someone who sleeps around a lot, the problem isn't the imaginary value of virginity or the lack of it, it's that casual sex is an extremely strong indicator of risk seeking behaviour, unstable relationships, and a lack of trustworthiness. In real life you avoid sluts for the same reason you'd avoid a woman with a gambling problem, it's not her hobby that's the habit, it's what comes with it.

But that doesn't come into play here. The girl always turns out to be not only perfect for the MC, but also because she has her sexual history it also clears her to be ridiculously giving and accommodating to the male lead. There's a reason these stories are ALWAYS about a giga whore and never about a woman that's had a couple boyfriends she loved and had sex with and then grew out of. It's always about a whore who has to carry her whore baggage around for the rest of her life until the MC helps her get over her whore trauma which makes him morally superior. The whole concept is in reality, a Captain Save-A-Ho fantasy.

>dude I am such a chad because I fuck escorts!
LMAO

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>>290320092
I mean, if I date a girl with a half-shaved and dyed head of hair I'm not going to need her to tell me she's a whore to know every hole is well-used, but I'm still going to get disgusted and tell her to fuck off if she randomly starts bringing it up in conversation.
>teehee, I'm used goods! I once got slathered in cum! Every hole of mine got BLOWN out by gorilla dicks! How do you feel, dating a used girl!
This is just faggot writing. What's even the response to this?
>Remember that tongue you played with last night, while we kissed in bed? It was actually embedded in a fat hairy old woman's anus exactly 48 hours before we went on our first date. Those hands that held you close at night? Double-fisting the ugliest, greasiest woman you'll ever see. That penis that put a child in you? It fucked a meth whore half to death and has been slathered from balls to tip in every fluid the human body is capable of producing. Tears, pus, shit, it's seen it all. You kissed that putrid rod of disease and filth on it's tip last night. Just thought I'd let you know."
Talking about your sex life just comes across as a game of "how many nasty things can I say to my partner to see if they stop being my partner" and for some reason the societal response to this retarded game is that if you get disgust baited by disgusting shit you're a mean Chud.

>>290320137
lmao, I just do it because I like it and makes my peepee feel good. Not everything people do is for posturing as "chad".

>>290320107
>And like, I'm not defending being a whore to be clear. Male or female, you can't trust someone who sleeps around a lot, the problem isn't the imaginary value of virginity or the lack of it, it's that casual sex is an extremely strong indicator of risk seeking behaviour, unstable relationships, and a lack of trustworthiness. In real life you avoid sluts for the same reason you'd avoid a woman with a gambling problem, it's not her hobby that's the habit, it's what comes with it.


When I was in college I tried asking out one of the local sluts, because I kind of liked her and she turned me down because she said I could tell she wouldn’t be able to “date” me without feeling bad about it which felt bitchy at the time but now I appreciate the honesty

>>290320325
>thanks for calling me a virginal loser

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>>290320375
>I want to go out with you
>No way retard, you're too cute for me to shamelessly cheat on
That shameless whore saved anon's life.