Volume 63World of DreamsChapter 604: Reunion, and Then...https://desuarchive.org/a/thread/274143504Previous thread:>>290238581
>>290290794It's THAT panel.>>290290813Why is Anko looking at him like that?
>>290290852Sub Jirobo feat
>>290290813Asuma became UGly
>>290290813>kakashi made chunin at 6 years old>anko in the exams at like 4 years oldKishi absolutely raped the timeline with this useless flashback no one asked for or needed.
>>290290813Shouldn't Iruka be like 3 years old here
>>290290852Sakura feat
>>290290785>1 min and 1 second lateTsk tsk.
>>290290974>AYO WHITEY
Is OP gonna have another melty today? Yesterday was embarassing.
>>290291177This is some actual bullshit.
>>290291088He's gonna wait to finish the dump first then act like some unaffiliated poster like usual.
>>290291131Can't Rin protect herself?
>>290291209How are they THIS close to Kiri?
>>290291150>Our combo attacksWhat combo attacks? They only fight as a proper team once and it ended horribly
B&W
Minato being away and leaving these two to solo a mission is so contrived.
Madara planned all this btw
>>290290813Why is Shizune the only 20-something y/o adult not present at all in these Obito flashbacks?
New illustration
>>290291473She already left the village with Tsunade. Obviously.
>>290291399Minato sending Rin to any sort of mission that doesn't involve walking a dog or finding a cat is even more contrived, considering how fucking useless she is. Seriously, she'd make Part 1 Sakura blush.
>>290291399This whole flashback is contrived. It's almost as bad as the 9-Tails attack on the village.
The worst manga of all time.
>>290291234A recurring trend in Naruto. Inserting things for the sake of being cool at the expense of narrative coherence.
OP died lol
Power outage?
Excuse me.How do they share vision? That's not how eyeballs work
>>290291902Shhhhhhhh don't think about it.
What a useless unreliable OP. When is the hijacker coming back?
Done!
>>290291268>>290291325SPOILERS, because who cares.The reason why Rin died the way she did will be revealed in about 20-30 chapters.Whatever it is, it won't matter at all since it turns out both Obito and Kakashi already knew why Rin died this way.Kishimoto left the readers hanging for months with the question "why did Kakashi kill Rin?" only to make it irrelevant since all the characters that matters already knew the answer.This is NOT how a writer should handle a mystery.
>>290290813So here is another discrepancy, ibiki is from the generation of choza inoichi , minato shibi and kibas mom. Why is he here.
>>290291325>>290291344>>290291913>>290291926Arigatou, OP!
>>290291926Thank you for reposting Kishi's manga until I step back in OP! I appreciate you filling in (^;
>>290291926Thanks for the comfy dump, OP!
>>290291275Called it
>>290291325Kakashi, when Rin said she wanted you inside of her, that's NOT what she meant ...
>>290291914No no don't shush me fagIf Obito gave Kakashi both of his eyes would Obito see what Kakashi sees?
>>290290974What was Madara's plan gonna be if Minato showed up and tardwrangled Obito?
>>290292017I guess he would just accept fate and die to the Yellow flash
>>290292017In fact what was Madara's plan if either Rin or Kakashi saw Obito before her death?
>>290291325Don't worry! Kakashi didn't mean to stab Rin! t was her who dived into his Raikiri! Kakashi is a good character with no flaws! He can't have a skeleton in his closet! ...no, really. Kishimoto made us believe Kakashi had a role in this, but he was actually the least relevant person in the scene.
>>290292016Uh...yesn't.
>>290292062I mean, you can see that Kakashi is crying while doing it.
Were all these flashbacks supposed to make me care about Rin?
>>290292239You're supposed to find her desirable and understand Obito's pain
>>290292239She's just a foid. You were supposed to care about Obito.
>>290292303Any desire for her should vanish with her confessing to Kakashi over Obito's corpse.
>>290292329The flashback isn't selling me on Obito either.
>>290290939He did? I'd say he aged pretty well.
>>290290813Raido already has a scar back then?
>>290291808Yeah, that's what I hate about part 2 the most. Way too much show over substance. And the worst thing is most fans are retarded enough to fall for it.
Couldn't Obito just heal Rin with his Zetsu body?
Hiashi won.
>>290291808>>290292613I've never met anyone who finds the whole Hashirama cells thing cool.
I find Hashirama cells cool
>>290290971The nicest guy ever Hiruzen was ripping babies out of the womb, giving them Kunai, and throwing them into the front lines. Thankfully this all ended the instant our main character Naruto was born and the Shinobi world was in a time of absolute peace a prosperity for his entire life, with absolutely 0 wars or conflicts between the major nations of the world.
>>290292720I bet you do, Danzo.
>filtered by senju chakrathe state of this general
Sex with Shino!!!
>>290292663Many uchihafags shill Obito and the whole reason he can endlessly spam Kamui was because muh Hashirama cells. Same with the "I'm in hell" scene.
He's trying really hard to get replies. Pretty pathetic
>>290292748Senju chakra is one thing, Senju body that makes you more invulnerable is dog shit.
Itachi's cells would make you more intelligent.
>>290292663>hashirama was so ridiculously godlike that just by planting some cells into someone else you get a massive power up>meanwhile Tsunade was pathetically weak and could never do anything to anyoneBeing a woman is more of a debuff than being Hashirama's direct descendant.
>>290292897Tobirama didn't have Hashirama's body either.
>>290292884Weird way to spell deranged.
>>290291131Why do you care so much about this girl who don’t even like you?
>>290292977Itachi was the most sane character in this series
>>290292986She was nice to him a couple of time!
>>290291325C U C K E D
>>290292986It'a natural for a man to chase after a woman he finds attractive.
>>290291268Damn right in her left titty
>>290292996What was sane about him?
Best girl is back bros!https://x.com/Narutovideogame/status/2090438704825356476
>>290293054His love for his little brother and drive to protect his village.
>>290292897It really is hilarious how the series never explains why Hashirama has the DNA of a demigod that can grant godly properties to anyone that gets it, but for some reason the DNA of all his relatives like Tobirama or Tsunade is completely valueless. And you can't even say that it's because he's Asura's reincarnation, since no one cares about Naruto's DNA, and the story constantly tries to force the whole "he's an underdog!!!" message.
>>290291325How could kakashi do this to poor innocent love interest girl? I’m going to go out and kill my master and his wife, kidnap their child and have that child think I’m cool as fuck.
Here is your live action kaka sensei https://www.reddit.com/r/Naruto/s/APnoiDGdQ8
>>290293095https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SkmIqELgl88
>>290291325>>290292011>>290291913
>>290293166>Uchiha Nanashiwho?
Can anyone explain to me why people like Obito? Like, I hate all the Uchiha characters, but I can at least understand why people like Sasuke, Itachi or Madara. Obito is just so fucking pathetic and unlikable, especially if you try to dig into his character and motivations just a little bit. And his Kamui spam makes him like top 3 strongest characters in the world before the war who could've achieved all his goals by himself without even needing Akatsuki, but he just never does anything. Do people shill him just because they liked his fight with Kakashi or something?
>>290291088>>290291275>>290291994Stop talking to yourself
>>290293257CC2 OC Character aka fem!Madara
>>290293363ah... here I thought it could finally be the reveal of Itachi's girlfriend... or was she already revealed and I missed it?
>>290291022>I'm going old man, and I am robbing you before I leave!Damn, Obito is irredeemable.
Why did Orochimaru never implant Hashi cells in himself?
>>290293095>>290293363>some shitty vidya oceeYawnTell me when they make Dosu's team playable
>>290293363>CC2 OC CharacterThat explains why her design actually looks decentUnlike half of Boruto characters who look like JoJo rejects
>>290293417She is more of a filler character, but one of the important ones.She love Boruto btw
>>290293283People like Tobi so much they can ignore Obito. And some people like him because he's strong. Frankly on paper he's a bit better than Itachi as a character but not by much. Itachi feels like a character written by an alien who doesn't understand humanity.
>>290293538>She love Boruto btwwhy
Reading this part of Naruto again reminds me how retarded this is. Why couldn't Kishi lay the roadworks of the big bad throughout the show instead of dumping background story like this in the middle of a 48 hour war
>>290293159Don't forget about killing your entire clan for no reason at all
>>290293111Whatever you say, Kishimoto.
>>290293581Because boruto rizzed her up unlike his father. But then he leaves her so i can imagine this bitch went coco loco after he was gone.
>>290293531Kek, true
>>290292884>Implant Itachi, Shikamaru, and Minato cells all at once>9000% increase to intelligence instantly causes you to ascend to a higher plane of existence
>>290293283>Can anyone explain to me why people like Obito? Ask CC2
>>290293561>Itachi feels like a character written by an alien who doesn't understand humanity.Kek, that's a good way of putting it.
>>290293581Uchiha genes + Bort is supposed to be more handsome than Naruto.
>>290293657>Implant Itachi, Shikamaru, and Minato cells all at onceWhy do you need to lower the average by using Shikarmaru and Minato cells?
>>290293673Do they all have separate movesets or are half of them just skins?
>>290293657Minato was never smart.>>290293673>All these bozos but no AnkoKUYASHI
>>290293596>Why couldn't Kishi lay the roadworks of the big bad throughout the showBecause for 80% of the show the only conflict was:>SASKEE LEFT>SASKEE IN NOT HERE>WE NEED TO BRING SASKEE BACK>WAAAAAAH
>>290293708Because Itachi cells alone would be too much. Your mind would collapse in on itself.
>>2902937192, 9, 10 are campaign only. Rest of them are playable and have different movesets too
>>290293255is this a day one edit?nice.I feel like Obitio would've been even more mad at Kakakshi for cucking him.I would rather see my love die than her cucking me.
Was if ever explained why if Kabuto repented under deus ex sharingan and turned "good" why he didn't just edotensei solo god again to help the war
>>290293844That image is old.Not sure if it was made in the same day the chapter dropped though.
>>290293844>is this a day one edit?I dunno, I klepped this one 10 years ago during "The Bomb" threads
Here's your Kakashi bro https://x.com/CultureCrave/status/2090502286590320830
>>290293885Because Kishimoto wants to keep the stakes high but he can't fathom writing Itachi actually struggling so he has to be written out of the story whenever Itachi can't afford to hold back.
>>290293922Anyone can play Kakashi. The guys face is 75% covered
>>290293885Good guys don't use bad guys jutsu.
>>290293283Swagkage and maskedman sold me on the idea that Obito is a misunderstood character and he actually makes sense. Their whole schtick was that he didn't do it for Rin. But then I watched the anime last year and realised how retarded this all is.
>>290293966It's a matter of perspective, until the last week in their world bijuus/jinchurikis were off limits too.
>>290293531>Unlike half of Boruto characters who look like JoJo rejectsThat's actually the sad part.
>>290293162>Find a guy who looks like Yamato>Cast him as Kakashi
>>290294026He constantly copies KPop and early 2000s designs
>>290293885There is no explanation. Orochimaru could have provided some criminal to sacrifice for the edo tensei. Just don't think about it. Edo Itachi could have also releases Edo Nagato from his Totsuka blade and both of them could have ripped Madara a new asshole with Naruto and Guy backing them up.
>>290291085>who?
>>290293922Is he half asian?
>>290294305I think he is mexican like most of the Naruto fans
>>290291926Cheers
>>290291236>>290291268Wait, so for the brief moment Obito saw what Kakashi's sharingan was seeing?
>>290293744People have been asking for playable Anko since first UNS game iirc
>>290290974>>290291022alright, so madara planned to make him see rin die once he gets there, but how does that work?if he's going fast enough to help them in time, does the zetsu just take a little detour to slow him down? or does he run at a certain pace to reach them at a certain time?also, i can accept that the zetsus know each person's personalities due to their intel-gathering, but how will they know the exact time when kakashi makes the decision and kills rin? >>290291325i feel like the only explanation is that the original plan is for rin to see obito's scarred body and get scared or reject him, causing him to go into an incel rage. but i don't think rin would act that way, because she is le good girl. what was the plan here?
>>290293987>SwagkageI watched his character analysis video on Obito a long time ago. I remember it being really bullshit because he was headcanoning how Obito was heavily ostracized within the village, even though he was shown being friendly with the elders. He was also defending him getting tnj'd, and later on he made another video saying how dumb the Obito tnj was and how upset it made him. Dude is such a disingenuous piece of shit kek
>>290294692>i feel like the only explanation is that the original plan is for rin to see obito's scarred body and get scared or reject him, causing him to go into an incel rage. but i don't think rin would act that way, because she is le good girl. what was the plan here?That would work if she got put under a genjutsu by madara to react that way when seeing his body.
>>290294692>does the zetsu just take a little detour to slow him down?That's probably itThe plan was to either get there with Kakashi standing over Rin's bodyor even better, catching Kakashi red-handed, which is what happened>but how will they know the exact time when kakashi makes the decision and kills rin?He saw it through Kakashi's sharingan>>290291268
>>290293255>AI slop
>>290293349I'm not OP?
I love Tsunade-sama.
>>290295498This image was created 12+ years ago, you dumb faggot.Way before AI slop was a thing
>>290295674Why?
>>290295829Uh huh
>>290295674Who doesn't?
>>290291735Oddly enough, this is the most attractive Rin has looked in the manga
>>290292897>0 mention of Hashirama's offspring Considering how OP Hashirama was, and the fact he had a kid live long enough to give birth to Tsunade and Kawaki, you'd think they would have at least been mentioned somewhere.
>>290295908Aside from being a lovely busty pretty character (despite being a jutsu desguise), it's one of the rare cases where you can tell Kishi actually sat down to outline her arc and characterisation (to the best of kishi abilities). The arc where Naruto meets her to the kabuto fight and getting over her trauma and ending with her "betting" on Naruto is one of the best arcs in this manga, it had a bit of everything, and it was memorable. It didn't need world-ending threats to keep it entertaining, and the ending to the arc felt earned in that both Naurto and herself progressed. Even the pretty disguise makes her unique.While sure, her being a female character with a lot of it hinged on a man may not pass some true feminist character test or whatever but that's not why we're here.
>>290296060Is it a general rule that Kishi's females look best when they're beaten up or about to die?
>>290293451He takes over a Zetsu body which is basically Hashirama cells, for whatever reason.
>>290291268>>290291325>gomen, arigatou!!!
>kishi gave more effort in writing Tsunade than for Sakura or HinataWhat did he mean by this
>>290293283>Coolest design>Coolest abilities>Coolest rage moments>Coolest sad moments>Coolest aura momentsDude has it all
>>290296396Uhhh, Sakura punches Kaguya though???
>>290290852That punch would have EVAPORATED Tsunade
>>290290813Kurenai is an Uchiha?
>>290296466>Coolest designNot when the mask is iff>Coolest abilitiesToo OP with 0 drawbacks>Coolest rage momentsHe just has the 1. It's okay>Coolest sad momentsNo>Coolest aura momentsAbsolutely 0 aura without the mask
>>290291325Imagine still being a Kakashi fan after this.
>>290296396Her and Temari are like the only well written female characters in the seriesTayuya gets a special mention too for being the only girl around Sasuke's age besides Hinata that never gets infatuated with him.
>>290296715nta but yeah the mask does a lot of heavy lifting for Obito
>>290291177people talk good game about Naruto x Tsunade but all I'm reading here is that Sasuke x Tsunade would produce the strongest offspring in the universe
>>290296181Yeah, she's honestly pretty well written by Naruto standards. It's just a shame that in part 2 she just turns into a boring plot device that does whatever Naruto wants. >Kazekage Rescue arc>Gaara gets kidnapped and Suna asks Konoha for help>Tsunade sends a super weak early Shippuden Naruto to fight the Akatsuki because he's "good at befriending people", even though the mission was about saving Gaara, not befriending him or the Akatsuki>Pain arc>The elders make a reasonable choice of keeping Naruto away from Pain so they don't give the Ninetails to the Akatsuki >Tsunade gets pissed at them and tells them to let Naruto fight Pain cause that's what Naruto wants (also she's the one makes Pain destroy Konoha when she taunted him like a retard)>War arc>Naruto finds out about the war, goes to face the enemies head on when he's supposed to stay hidden, raikage tries to stop him>Tsunade intervenes telling him to let Naruto through because that's what he wants to do
>>290291325I think the context clues are enough to get it (Kakashi is crying, Kisame's backstory 100 chapters ago is all about being put into this situation) but it's still a hilariously jarring cliffhanger.
>>290291325Hilarious There should be a laugh track for this
>>290291268Sexy
>>290294692Madara's plan wasn't exactly for Obito to see them killing each other, more like them dying (or already dead) on the battlefield. Obito's timing shouldn't change the outcome.That's probably why swirly suggested to do the fighting, to hold back so that they lose in case they'd arrive too early.
>>290297059Im literally rewatching shippuden right now and im at the part where they beat Sasori and are supposed to meet with Kabuto to get info on OrochimaruTsunade sends Naruto because of course she does. (He is so very stable when it comes to Sasuke after all)Fucking Shizune of all people tries to intervene by telling the elders, but Tsunade doesn't listenOne the other hand, listening to Sai shit-talk Naruto and Sakura is so cathartic
>>290293283It's been said in the previous thread, but I think that Rainbow ending really manipulated a lot of people into thinking his writing is good.
How would Madara manipulate Obito if Obito wasn't obsessed with Rin? What string would he pull to break Obito?
>>290296155You mean Nawaki, Kawaki wasn't born yet.
>>290296396He didn't, Kishi just doesn't get many opportunities to humiliate her in comparison.
>>290290813I didn't think Iruka was in the same gen as Kakashi and everyone? Also Ibiki (and also Guy honestly) seem much older as well.>>290296671No she just inexplicably has red eyes and despite eye powers being very important to this series it's literally never expounded upon or even mentioned why she has them during the entire manga.
>>290293987>>290294704Let me try to sell Obito to you again by defending a point that is contentious for most people>Why did Obito bother with the Akatsuki, Nagato, and declaring the war at all? Why didn't he just implant the Rinnegan into his left eye once he's juiced up enough with Hashirama cells and quietly kidnap the jinchurikis 1 by 1? We know that he can put someone on a "genjutsu sleep" indefinitely. Why did he even bother with taking great care of Sasuke when Sasuke is no use to his plan? is he fucking stupid? And so on, you know how it goes, people call him stupid for doing all these all over the place inconsistent things that obviously were done to advance the plot. But what if I tell you that is not the case at all? that these all have subtle in-universe reasons? namely Obito wanted to be right about his own conviction, that everyone in the shinobi world will wind up becoming trash of some sort, just as he did. And he genuinely wanted to save people whilst still having sociopathic tendencies, this is not a contradiction well because as he said, he is a fucking trash person>Why did Obito even bother with Nagato?Firstly, he sympathized with the orphans of a country which was being trampled under the weight of three great nations coming at them. Secondly, this is one of the running shtick of Obito that most people might have missed, namely as I've said earlier, Obito loves getting his conviction vindicated by other people. Now, said orphans becoming this hopeful little organization doesn't sit right with Obito. So he thought to himself "will Nagato become trash if I did a little trolling?" it doesn't matter if Obito's the one who orchestrated Nagato's descent into the darkness, his point still stands, Nagato was now trash just like him. This is why Obito was so baffled when he learned that Naruto had just tnj'd Nagato and called it a betrayal, not because Nagato failed to capture the 9 tails, but Nagato becoming good is, above all, THE betrayal.
>>290297438>opportunitiesHe did, but accidentally made her look badass instead>cracks susan barehanded>buffs short kage ojisan with her MASSIVE chakra reserve>cleaved in half; "nah don't worry, tie but a scratch, bring the other jobber kages to me and I'll heal them first
This an actual concept NS card called the the trails and tribulations
>>290298094at least the new card game would have nice new artwork from various artists.
>>290298094It's literally the scene of Naruto promising Sakura he'll bring her crush back you spastic
>>290290940Just for that moment Obito was the coolest guy
>>290298094Lady GT is hot as fuck
>>290291297No, she's got a vagina
>>290293255That's what should have happened. And it probably did way before. Kakashi just didn't say anything
>>290291325Nothing some Hashirama cells can't fix
>>290298197I kneel before the true master of canon. Kishimoto proved himself incapable of leading the IP the second he confirmed Naruhina over Narusaku.
>>290298197>Lady
>>290298416That's her nick, anon.
The boruto that could’ve been.
>>290290813asuma is a fuckboy
>>290298498Damn gaara not even sasuke would do naruto like that.
>>290298498Futa Karin impregnated Sakura?
>>290298416That is lady Gt she is a spanish woman in her 40’s
>shipping retards start spamming the threads againWhere have they been all this time?
>>290298412You're genuinely a pathetic and obsessed retard, anon.
>>290298686Yes and i need her in my bed right now so that i can help her cope with her loss and help her forget about her worries
>>290298686>Jawmogged by a womanShould i end it all?Also, is she still drawing official figs for Naruto or any anime?
>>290298498I can't believe Choza and Sakura did it...
>>290290785>AIslopped up so bad now even the text is blurryyikes
>>290298686She's not even doing the correct hand sign properly.
>>290297953(2/2)Sorry if it's not a rather good read btw, I can't be as chatty since I got cucked by the 2000 character limit.Following where I left off, This is why Naruto piqued Obito's interest and he went about to ask Konan what is it that makes her and Nagato **Betrays** him? well, we all know Konan just straight up jumped Obito, so Obito had to ask the orange man himself. Sadly for Obito, Naruto didn't gaf either. Nigga's out here freezing at -39°C while trying to find out how the hell did some random jumpsuit fella redeem a literal terrorist leader but dude is just preoccupied with a particular uchiha twink cock. Obito was fucking unsettled at the possibility of his world view being a falsehood, that not everyone will wind up becoming trash, because then he won't be able to hide behind a mask anymore, the teenager who chimped out at a pregnant woman and the sleeping citizens was Obito Uchiha not Madara Uchiha, all the other blood that has been shed because of him, that was all Obito Uchiha and not this Tobi guy that the world forced him to become into. This is why he bothers with the war at all, he wants to break Naruto by killing his friends. breaking Naruto and making him join the dark side would be the most convicting trophy to his world view.>Why did Obito take care of Sasuke at all?Just as he did with Nagato, it was actually revealed that Sasuke is an on-going project of Obito (same chapter he has a conversation with Naruto/Kakashi/Yamato in the five kage summit arc). He lore dumped Itachi's secrets to Sasuke to have a bet on whether Sasuke will turn good after knowing the truth or not. Obito even expressed his joy to them that Sasuke turned out to be trash just like him, this is why *again* he called Sasuke a fucking traitor after Minato had slashed him.Hope this makes sense
>>290298686What was she the one that did the art work similar to kishimoto 1:1 ?
>>290291928So what the fuck was the reason?
>>290298972>>290298826She did some serious work back in the day and got hired to do some art for official manga.
>>290291085>>290291102That moment when Obito talked shit about Minato is perhaps the only time I actually agreed with him. Minato had one of his subordinates/students kidnapped and the other crushed by a rock (presumably dead) yet he took no preventive measures to ensure his two remaining students stayed alive.
Honestly, Madara being behind Rin death kinda ruins ths whole thing. It should be something that naturally ocurred because of the shinobi world. Not a manipulated event. This is a issue that plagues the series, everything needs a villain behind. The "cruel shinobi" world and the system kinda loses the point when you realise that everything bad in this series has happened because of like 3 or 4 characters. If you take out Danzo and Madara from the story, half of all the things bad that happened in the series wouldnt happen. Its just retarded.
>>290298686Would no condom.
>>290299573but anon it could be argued that Madara himself is a product of the cruel shinobi world
>>290299663Madara was considered too cruel even for his time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iz_iZPyyzw4thoughts on this naruto mod for crusader kings 3 ?
>>290299573>The "cruel shinobi" world and the system kinda loses the point when you realise that everything bad in this series has happened because of like 3 or 4 charactersThat's the problem with Kishi's storytellingThe only way Naruto can achieve the peace he wants is by punching a few specific people, then the world will just fix itself
>>290298727Are you on the spectrum or somethingI get the feeling this isn't the first time you've mistakenly taken a fairly obvious satirical post at face value
>>290291325Why does Kakashi love punching holes in people so much? Wasn't there at least a less brutal way of killing her?
>>290290813>every adult from part 1 was the same age and graduated from the academy st the same time God this is so retarded
>>290297059>Yeah, she's honestly pretty well written by Naruto standardsTsunade is horrendously written, even by Kishi standards. Her introductory arc was handled fine, since then she >sends Shikamaru and a handful of Genin of his choosing out to fight the Sound 4, a group that already dispatched several Konoha chunin/Jonin >risks her jinchurki on a mission to "rescue" a rogue Shinobi who left voluntarily>does absolutely nothing for two years to arrest Sasuke while the time skip goes on because she doesn't want to hurt Naruto's feelings>as Sasuke's crimes mount, continues to do nothing because "muh Naruto's feelings" and "muh Orochimaru parallel">sends her weak jinchurki, who has absolutely no control over his tailed beast to save the kazekage from the JINCHURIKI HUNTING AKATSUKI, any of which absolutely no-diffs the fuck out of beginning of Shippuden Naruto >during the pain arc has the most embarrassing showing of any Kage, does LITERALLY nothing while the entire village is destroyed and genocide right outside her window, at least Gaara went down with a shred of dignity defending his village and using all of his strength to do so
>>290293581Uchihas and Uzumakis always want to fuck each other, it's canonMinato was the one who shoved that boulder onto Obito by the way
>>290299573Kishi didn't even stop there it turned out Zetsu planned on everything
>>290299810>naruto faces pain, who destroys his village, kills Jiraiya, kakashi, Shizune, and scores of other innocent villagers>naruto lets him go, doesn't finish him off, but now has to go back to a village thirsty for revenge, he has to find a way to convince everyone else to let this go and not seek death as an answer>LOL NO NEVERMIND THE VILLAIN WILL JUST KILL HIMSELF AND UNDO ALL OF HIS DAMAGE!The worst part of all this is that Naruto is celebrated as the hero who KILLED THE ENEMY, either that or every single villager there simultaneously got instantly transmitted the knowledge of what happened and went "it's ok you let the mass murdering criminal go, Naruto! All's well that ends well!"The ending to the Pain arc has to be the worst handled ending to an arc in shonen history. It's so irredeemably horrible.
>>290300802>there never was a cruel Shinobi world of war, death, subterfuge, betrayal, and suffering>and if there was, it was all a couple people's fault>and none of this happens when Naruto grows up, he grows up in peace and every other country is peaceful and nice to each other
>>290300882>either that or every single villager there simultaneously got instantly transmitted the knowledge of what happened and went "it's ok you let the mass murdering criminal go, Naruto! All's well that ends well!"They learned about it from Katsuyu. But yeah the ending to that arc is really terrible. I don't get why people act like the Pain arc is the peak of the series, it's so fucking overrated and bleah.
So Obito is in love with Rin, who in turn only has eyes for Kakashi, who in turn basically only has Obito living in his mind rent-free (taking on Obito's values, 'that's not what Obito would have wanted', etc).Is there a term for this sort of triangle where everyone is cucking everyone else with the next person in line like some kind of weird chain?
I was rewatching Ibiki's section of the Chunin exams with the paper test, and that's probably the most unique part of the whole series. It almost makes you think that Naruto isn't going to be an shonen that's exclusively only about fighting (although it ends up being just that).
>>290290813How can a writer not keep track of how old his characters are supposed to be?
>>290290813Yugaobros... The COOLEST GUY does not remember us...
>>290301007>I don't get why people act like the Pain arc is the peak of the seriesHonestly I think it's just because of how cool Sage Mode was, along with Naruto entering with the three giant frogs, sick ass robe, and giant scroll. The fight then goes downhill but that entrance is goated. I think everyone forgets the rest of the fight just being whatever, ending with Naruto spamming clones and just hitting a basic rasengan.
>>290290813I'm legit surprised Kishi didn't add Itachi to this panel too kek
>>290301636Naruto was actually an annoying unlikeable faggot for pretty much the entire timeskip up until the Pain arc too.
>>290301499Did her plotline at least get resolved in an anime filler or something
>>290301996She doesn't get to kill Baki, her edofied BF just tells her that life goes on.
>>290301996I think she fought edo Hayate in the anime
>>290290813This was so kino back then
>>290302469>She doesn't get to kill Baki,Revenge?
>>290302681lol never mind
Naruto part 3 design. Fan made.
>>290302981That actually looks nice
>>290302981For some reason none of the Konoha 11 characters wear their headbands in the Boruto era.
>>290302981I like it. Wish the front didn't have the orange triangle. It should be 90% black then orange imo the contrast is too strong
>>290302981All he needs is a belt or something other , i also do not think the jonin vest would look good on him,
>>290303103Because mosg of them are retired and the rest is in a position that doesn't require them.
>>290298996See ya next month
>>290302981judging from the bad uzumaki armband on the left and the mangled leaf on his headband, this is probably ai
>>290303747It is ai duhh
Anon please, spare us the AI shart...
>>290304282Im done but please tell me Wich one is the best please.
>Keep Kabuto and Orochimaru's original Konoha Crush dynamic where Kabuto can speak to Orochimaru as an equal and openly ragebait him>Kabuto is actually a Root spy monitoring Orochimaru while pretending to be under genjutsu and spying for Sasori. He's so many layers deep that even he is having some identity issues>This pays off the setup where Orochimaru is disturbed by Kabuto's blood type because Kabuto's is the kind of person who will betray anyone>Have Kabuto try to kill Sasuke in the hospital to foil Orochimaru and dispose of Sasuke with Leaf plausible deniability, only to be stopped by Kakashi like in canon>During the timeskip, Kabuto develops a seemingly genuine brotherly bond with Sasuke, becoming someone Sasuke truly trusts>When Sasuke turns on dying Orochimaru, Oro initially suspects Kabuto is attacking>Orochimaru actually checkmates Sasuke by trapping him in his pocket dimension but Kabuto finally pays off the buildup by betraying Orochimaru, saving Sasuke, and joining his cause>Continue with Hebi mostly as normal, with Kabuto tagging along>When they confront Danzo, reveal he has known about Sasuke the whole time due to a mole leaking has and prepared countermeasures>Kabuto flips and reveals he was a quadruple agent for Root the whole time. Sasuke was a puppet for their objectives>Betraying Orochimaru tied up one loose end for Konoha>Helping Sasuke kill Itachi tied up another>Now killing Sasuke will tie up the last>Kabuto sacrifices himself protecting Danzo after Danzo runs out of eyes going out bragging about how he genuinely believes he's nothing more than a tool of the village and takes pride in fulfilling that role, mirroring Itachi>Watching another person he cared about willingly throw his life away for the Leaf like Itachi completely breaks Sasuke>He crashes out and pierces Karin with his Chidori to get to Danzo just like in canonMaybe it's not great but surely it's better than whatever it was Kishi was doing with him.
>>290304351Who replaces him as the Edo caster in the war
>>290304510If we're making big changes then just cut that shit out desu. The resurrected people aren't adding much to the plot and are a waste of time generally. Madara can just be really old or we can revive him with some other plot no jutsu.
I've come to hate Naruto (the character) the more i reread the manga.
Why the thread so dead?
>>290304727The chapter sucks, news 11.
>>290304666I know this has been discussed multiple times before, but I can't stand people who constantly call him an underdog. Like 90% of the shit he does always goes his way. I think him losing to Sasuke in SRA was the only genuine loss he ever suffered, and even then he still eventually managed to bring him back.Sasuke genuinely feels more like an underdog compared to him, considering how hard he's constantly jobbing in both part 1 (Haku, Lee, Gaara, Itachi, the Sound 4) and part 2 (barely made it out alive against Deidara, Itachi gave him a free win/saved him from Orochimaru, brutalized by Bee, brutalized by multiple kage, made to look like a retard while fighting with Itachi against Kabuto).
>"Straight" men btw
>>290304738Post more?
>>290304759>Hashirama is tallerMadara is definitely the bottom bitch
>>290304757I think the problem with Naruto's portrayal here is that he's never in the fine line between dominating and being utterly incompetent, he's always on either extremes.This also goes for how people talk about him, it's either wank or lowballing.
>>290304795No, we haven't suffered enough.
>>290304832Wild mentality
comfy
>>290304759>oh god it's finally happening I'm actually holding his hand. play it cool, madara.. play it cool.
>>290304757>Jumped Bee with 3 other people>Got raped so hard that Bee was casually writing new rhymes on the spotHow did Sasuke's reputation survive that?
>>290291236>>290291268>shared vision The sharingan once again stealing the rinnegan's thunder.
>>290304932Kishimoto's damage control, like he literally had B talk about how tough Sasuke was after wiping the floor with him.
>>290304666Yeah idk, I really wish he would've become more mature after the timeskip. Instead, he is still constantly acting like a childish ignorant moron.He reminds me a lot of Goku in Super, and how most people hate that version of him because he's acting like a retarded kid when he's an adult. Meanwhile, his Z version manages to portray him as being more mature while still keeping some of his silly personality from the OG. Teen Naruto should've been more like Z Goku.
>>290291913that kakashi, me, i never trusted him.>>290291926thanks op.
Reminder: Konan RAN from the Aburame after multiple chapters worth of fighting and did absolutely no damage against them.
>>290305033Reminder: When Pakkun smelled Shino tailing their group, he said “whatever is following us isn’t human”.
>>290304904Wow. You really do spend all your time in these threads lol
>>290305308Bugs aren't human so i don't see how that's meaningful
>>290304666Based Satan. Naruto is exceptionally horrible after Pain.
>>290304666Well Satan that's mainly because of Kishi forcing his weird brocon fetish onto him. Ever since part 1 the obsession was an albatross around the MC, and honestly the story as a whole.
>>290294079>>290294026what's wrong with it? It's an improvement from the hooker dress
>>290304932He coasted off his previous rep, his team up with Naruto during the War, and the somewhat cool last fight with Naruto.
>>290305015>15 year old Naruto should've acted like Z Goku who was in his mid to late 20s. I swear to god this board always has the worst takes imaginable. you guys borderline on being like those tiktok or twitter retards.
>>290304757>90% of the shit he does always goes his wayafter he trains hard for months and proves his opponent wrong with TnJ>was the only genuine loss he ever sufferedbecause unlike everyone else he did not understand Sasuke at the end of PART 1>Haku, Lee, Gaara, Itachi, the Sound 4You don't know what jobbing means anon. >barely made it out alive against DeidaraHe was winning before Deidara decided to self destruct.> brutalized by multiple kageThat's not jobbing. Did you expect Sasuke to solo all 5 Kages and their security? His goal was to kill Danzo which he succeeded at doing.
>>290304666Question. Did Sasuke ever reciprocate Naruto's gay-ass affection for him. As far as I remember, Sasuke either looked down on or felt frustrated by Naruto in part 1. Except that one fight against zabuza where they showed some comraderie. In part 2 his motivations either did not involve team 7 or ran straight contrary to their actions. The final battle tries to sell the idea that his feelings towards Naruto finally got him to stop being an edgelord jerk, but it feels unearned since Sasuke was never shown to have any such latent bond towards Naruto to begin with. And even then Sasuke just gets pardoned and fucks off from the village. You never see him make the same sacrifices for Naruto.
>>290305788I find the self-righteous savior complex more annoying than the brocon.
>>290293283I was surprised to find out that both Tobi and Obito were more popular than Pain overall. I thought it was the opposite based on English circles always praising Pain as a "realistic" bad guy. But I guess it makes sense when you consider a Japanese perspective.
>>290307312Retard, I was just saying he needed to act more mature compared to his preteen version. Z Goku doesn't act like an actual adult in his 20s either.
>>290307480>trains hard for monthsLmao. His training barely lasts 2 weeks at best.>because unlike everyone else he did not understand Sasuke at the end of PART 1Not my point.>You don't know what jobbing means anon.Neither do you.>He was winning before Deidara decided to self destructHe still made it out barely alive. >That's not jobbing. Did you expect Sasuke to solo all 5 Kages and their security?My point was that he still got his ass kicked far more than Naruto ever did.
>>290309780>I find the self-righteous savior complex more annoyingSameI hate stories like these because when every other character in the setting tries to fight the system, they get their ass beaten and their worldview shatteredBut then the MC shows up, just tells everyone to chill and stop being evil and it magicaly worksThen I have to watch some absolute maniacs talk about Naruto changing their whole life, because before meeting him they never thought to just chill and not be evil
>>290310454Yugitobros....Keep in mind this isn't a pure popularily ranking, since it was about winning the oneshot.I guess Nagato was a bigger auraloss for Pain, than Obito was for Tobi though.
>>290310454Why are Tobi and Obito separate characters?
>>290307312You're an autistic retard for misunderstanding that anon's post so hard.
>>290293538Look at her, Boruto knows how to rizz batshit insane women
>>290291325FRIENDLY REMINDER: Thread theme for this flashback https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3zsRbVo1T8 to me one of the best rememberable endings from the series. Long version if anyone wants a listen in full: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPtyAzve2Dc
>As you know Naruto, shadow-clones divide the chakra evenly between themselves>With my ammount of chakra i can make one or two>You have four times as much chakra as me so go and make hundreds of clones at once
These threads are really losing it
>>290311962This is some of the most manipulative shit everNormalfags only consider Obito's story good because how good this song is. They don't actually care about the content of his story. Smh.
>>290312051I know it's taboo to say, but they straight up remind me of /nart/. Just as forced and the discussions are non-engaging. Think the threads only exist because 1 anon wants to finish their quest to dump all the chapters.
>>290307480>after he trains hard for months and proves his opponent wrong with TnJAnon, his entire time of training in the whole series is like less than 2 months. >>Haku, Lee, Gaara, Itachi, the Sound 4>You don't know what jobbing means anon.Sasuke lost hard to all of those characters to show off how strong they are, with the only possible exception being Itachi. That's literally the definition of jobbing.
>>290290813hayate was really cute
>>290300195even later when he's supposed to have 1000 jutsus, he's still a penetration merchant
>>290293283People like Obito?
>>290291325Was there any symbolic purpose to Kakashi killing Rin in the same way he killed Haku? Was it just to traumatize him with PTSD? Explain it to a pleb like me please.
>>290313395>Was there any symbolic purpose to Kakashi killing Rin in the same way he killed Haku?Nah manHe just really likes stabbing people in the heart with his lightning swordHe's a stone cold killa, and as you can see even Zabuza is surprised
>>290291325I'm always amazed at how business Kakashi is. He ended Rin, ended Kakuzu and did not hesitate to try and kill Obito before Naruto stopped him. A true ninja among pussies with dbz powers
>>290313482So was it just a shitty callback with no deeper meaning?
>>290312051Losing what?
>>290313127I wouldn't call Obito fans "people".
>>290297953I don't think Obito had the self awareness to consider himself a trash person. Nor was it ever stated that he is Joker but in Naruto-verse. The better explaination is that Kishimoto simply didn't give af and left all these plot holes in. But the problems with Obito's character go deeper than that.
>>290314237>Losing what?The Heart
>>290312125Not really taboo, just that the guy behind /nart/ hates this daily so you'll be assumed to be him. To be fair, his hate is kinda silly because there isn't enough interest in discussing Naruto to warrant a general. Meanwhile this daily at least has a sort of purpose, to dump all the chapters one by one.
>>290309539>Did Sasuke ever reciprocate Naruto's gay-ass affection for him.Only at the end of part 2 when he dumps a bunch of exposition about how he was secretly always jealous of Naruto. Other than that, the only time I can recall him ever giving a shit about Naruto in part 2 whatsoever was when he and Suigetsu returned to the Naruto bridge from the Land of Waves arc and smiled at the name. That's it. It really is funny how the series insists that Naruto and Sasuke's bond is super important, but you could remove the 2 times they meet in Shippuden before the war (at the Tenchi Bridge and the Kage Summit respectively) and pretty much nothing about either of their arcs would change. I especially hate their meeting at the summit and how calm and morally righteous Naruto was acting in it. I wonder if he would have still called Sasuke his friend while smiling if Sasuke actually managed to kill Sakura before he got there.
>>290301636People like pain arc for the rain village parts. Not the underwhelming final fight
>>290313482Zabuza is surprised that Haku saved him not that Kakashi is a ninja
>>290310538Doesn't he? I think Z Goku is a pretty convincing dad.
>>290314695Naruto would probably do what he always does. Shout "Sasuke" and enter nine tails form. I can't imagine him processing complex emotions.
>>290314339Anyone that says anything negative about this daily is accused to be him. I don't even think he's here half the time.
>>290314247Kakashi is Obito fan, he wants to be like him and kneels in respect when his hero dies.Naruto is Obito fan, he calls him the coolest guy and got the same haircut after meeting him.Rin is Obito fan, she watched and waited for 20 years to suck his dick.Even sage of six paths is impressed and wants to speak with him.
>>290315218>I don't even think he's here half the time.I hope you're right. Engaging with threads that one hates, instead of just filtering them is pretty pathetic and sad.
>>290314339>To be fair, his hate is kinda silly because there isn't enough interest in discussing Naruto to warrant a general. Are you the retard who keeps saying he wants to hurry up the daily so he can bring back his dead general? >Meanwhile this daily at least has a sort of purpose, to dump all the chapters one by one.All because another retardprob you wanted to copy One Piss? What's the point? What happens when you finally succeed with all 700 chapters? This daily is really just another Naruto general at this point because the war arc is so bad. I really don't understand the point in dragging it out, but you'll accuse me of being the faggot who wants a Naruto general for suggesting dumping more chapters.
>>290314695The funny thing about this is that you could make a genuine argument that Naruto wouldn't mind that much if Sasuke killed Sakura and Kakashi in that arc but if Sakura actually managed to end Sasuke it'd take massive restrain for Naruto to not kill her.
>>290315305>Lists a bunch of sub-humansCase in point.
>>290315394The point was the friends we made along the way.
>>290315394>Are you the retard who keeps saying he wants to hurry up the daily so he can bring back his dead general?Did you read my post? And why do you contradict yourself right in the next paragraph where you accuse me of being OP, the guy who wants to dump 1 chapter a day. Profound schizophrenia.
>>290315533>Reading comprehension: retard Try reading slower, I didn't contradict anything
Naruto and Sasuke level bickering happening in this thread.
>>290315499Do you consider anyone here a friend?
>>290315690>Naruto and Sasuke level bickering happening in this thread.yes these threads have always been extremely homosexual
>>290315806Expected when the OP is an open faggot
>>290315787Do you see me as a friend?
>>290307151 LMAO
>>290315915There are repeats and faces that weren't drawn by Kishi in there.
>>290315894Negative. Most of you are cringe in these threads
>>290315915Why does he make these threads then reply with the naruto commie guy insulting himself? It's so bizarre.
>>290315218that's because other people who don't like it just ignore the thread. He's the only schizo who hates this daily but won't stop clicking on it.
>>290305661Are you saying the Aburame aren’t human because of their bugs?
>>290317150No he's saying that the bugs aren't human because they are bugs
>>290317175But wouldn’t Pakkun smell the human part of him also?
the manga gets better once obito dies
>>290317281You mean the whole like 6 chapters after it?
>>290317281But Kaguya is already fighting by then.
>>290316977No...I've been accused of being him just for shitting on Naruto. I do think these threads are trash though, and find OP to he a sad individual.
Next thread:>>290317395>>290317395>>290317395
>>290291325Sorry, kakashi never makes his own desicions and when he does he is always in the wrong.
comfy bump no jutsu
>>290295498You fucking tourist monkey
>>290292053he had already set it up so Zetsu would kill Rin. he knew where they were and what was going on ahead of time, the entire current situation existed because of Madara.
>>290293255fake, Rin is flat
>>290293363>shut in computer nerd named Nanashiuhh, does she draw a lot...?
>>290297349he wouldn't bother, he'd just take Obito's right eye and leave him for dead. his original plan didn't involve Obito at all, the discovery of a dying Obito was merely a happy accident.
Why are you necro-bumping both your dead threads?
>>290321695Don't you get tired of doing this shit every thread? move on
>>290317487Based
>>290321716>he's here everyday >he thinks everyone else is also every day>he thinks only 1 person calls out the pathetic behavior El fucking El. Thanks faggot. Needed that.
bumparooney!
>>290323127>he thinks only 1 person calls out the pathetic behaviorThis but unironically. I don't even want to bump OP's expired thread but your writing style makes it pretty obvious that it's you. Which begs the question why are you so obsessed with this daily
>>290323500What?
>>290326119Yup
I just don't see how madaras obito logic even works.So he found a retarded half dead Uchiha kid and was like "yes......... I can manipulate this kid into manipulating someone else with the rinnegan (that I give, but I have not unlocked yet so idk how I'm devising this plan anyway desu) to revive me in 40 years. This is clearly very easy and doable. Very logical.I don't get itHow the fuck is pain even involved anymore this shit makes no sense at allThe nagato retcons with obito are stupid and gay and make nonsensenagato is fucking older than obito isn't he
During the Chuuning exams, Orochimaru tries to kidnap Sasuke in the hospital and Kakashi stops him. Orochimaru says he's gotten a Sharingan since the last time he's seen him. Kekw nice plot hole faggot. Obito was not planned.
This absolute state of this failed daily lol
>>290329673Whose sharingan was it?
>>290329417Madara had already given his eyes away to Nagato at this point, and Nagato is indeed older than Obito. I think he's closer to Minato's age. The whole thing is really dumb and implausible, of course. I think Kishimoto came up with the ideas in an order like this:1) Obito is the main villain who survived and was responsible for both Naruto and Sasuke' tragic pasts. But how did a kid do that? Oh I know:2) Uchiha Madara, an Uchiha who was the rival of the First Hokage, found him and made him evil. And he died and Obito is posing as him. But who is leading Akatsuki in the meantime?3) There's this other guy Pain, he can be yet another dark reflection of Naruto. Maybe he's Jiraiya's apprentice too and he has even more special eyes that he got from Madara?4) Now, to put it all together in a coherent way!
>>290329673>Obito was not planned.Obito was planned. The timeline is completely fucked, though.
P A T H E T I CATHETIC
>>290331670That's a large duck.
