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Is getting good right? Right? Eiji-kun
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>Getting good
Dude where my nanofate butt?
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imagine green tinkering with your genome and then injecting your hot thick diaboli seed into her womb
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>>290337195
lol no
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>>290337195
I'm enjoying it. Just finished rewatching the first season of Nanoha, going straight into As. Gonna stop there, don't think I have the wherewithal to rewatch StrikerS.
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>>290337195
I still don't get over how weird this couple is. I wonder who came up with the idea of pairing a girl with a boy.
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>>290338642
Sorry, their contract with exceeds forbids showing child butt
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>>290339979
Apparently, stripping naked at work is "unprofessional" in the UN's eyes...
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>>290338642
feito-ccine
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>>290337195
It's about to get stupid. We're about to get the most forced conflict in a long time.
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>>290339979
>>290340250
They know Shiina "lolicon" Kuze would instantly rape them
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I would laught my ass off if they begin the chaptet after the confrontation to avoid animating it
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>>290341853
Since they avoided the misunderstandings plot every time I expected it until now, part of me wants to hope that happens again, but then we just keep awkwardly not having the conflict instead
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>no vengance
>almost no guns
>non existent nanoha
I guess we have exceeds blazing
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The way it's been going I'm gonna make a crashout thread about it once it's finished, because what the fuck was Seven Arcs thinking with this entire season
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>>290342841
>no vengance
>almost no guns
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Can we all agree on that this is the worst Nanoha anime?
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>gacha characters all out pf action
what a waste of space
could have spent the budget on the knights
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>>290343583
It would be up there with Vivid Strike if that anime dared to call itself Lyrical Nanoha
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>>290343583
>Can we all agree on that this is the worst Nanoha anime?
Since Force manga wasn't animated and gone on complete hiatus, yes I can agree with that.
I had more enjoyment watching Vivid Strike.
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Holy shit this is dumb.
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>>290343829
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>>290343583
No.
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>>290343535
They turned Shiina's guns into magic flamethrowers very quicky, which is a shame. It could have been interesting to have two clear power levels in the series: EXCEEDS and the kaiju, and Shiina and the Diaboli
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>>290343217
This is justified, just don't get obsessive with it. For my sake more than yours honestly.
It's tedious trying to have threads for series with awful seasons when there's a guy who will spam about only the bad ones for the rest of his life. We've still got pedophiles crying over Strikers to this day, we can probably let this season blow over and forget about it without it getting to that point.
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>>290344369
Did shiina ever used the anti tank rifle apart from episode 1?
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Who wrote this crap? Just because you pointed it out yourself doesn't make this any less stupid.
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>>290344369
>They turned Shiina's guns into magic flamethrowers very quicky
It's called Gun Blaze for a reason
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>>290344485
Him saying that doesn't even make sense unless he somehow didn't consider Towa wanting to be taken to them.
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>>290344369
The magic fights in Kimishinu this season looks more like gun fights than Shiina's
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Holy shit this is retarded. The failed salaryman getting the police to strongarm the UN to strongarm exceed into collaborating just makes no sense. Hayate, the walking nuke whose entire deal is playing politics, going along with this stupidity is nothing but character assassination.
I am also so mad they wasted this much screentime in Towa's groupies just for this. They literally added nothing to the story besides making Towa look even more retarded.

>>290343583
By far.
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>>290337195
the couple should've been the protagonists of this shit show
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>>290344759
Im still mad they have a fucking spaceship to nuke the progenitors from orbit but wont use it because??
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>>290344793
They have to let worlds learn to deal with their own problems. The victims in the meantime? Simply stepping stones to the world's growth. An unfortunate but necessary sacrifice.
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>>290344658
This. With how dumb and halfassedly this plan was, I feel it should've been green's idea.
That way one could probably handwave Towa's stupidity as green understanding her or whatever and him going "holy shit THAT worked?" would've actually been funny.
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>>290344759
>>290344793
These worlds have no warp capability and therefore not in contact with TSAB officially. The new manga issue says the explicit mission of Exceeds is to uplift worlds to defend themselves from world ending disasters.
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Every time I want to argue against something in this season I have to remind myself the people making it are retarded and it's a waste of my time.
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>>290344973
Problem with that logic is that the TSAB is literally collaborating with that word in an official capacity. Just because they have not annexed them yet doesn't change the fact they have already infiltrated their government.
The whole uplifting the world is also bullshit considering the knights are dealing with 99% of the problem offscreen and the one progenitor we saw get defeated onscreen was dealt with by locals.
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I can't believe Lyrical Nanoha is joining Star Wars, Star Trek and Doctor Who...
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>>290345202
Nanoha should have joined Blade and disappeared after the 3rd entry with people begging for its return forever.
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>>290345150
Do UN know? To them it is just a bunch of advanced isekaijins
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whatchu gonna do when the UN rolls in and says you have to hand over your suspect because, "fuck you podunk cops we run this planet"
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Can yuri even save this show anymore or has the damage been done /a/?
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>>290343583
Yes, and also the worst anime I'm watching this season, and only continue to do so clinging to the hope of seeing Nanoha and Fate being cool one more time.
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>>290345330
Their liaison knows they are aliens so at the very least his bosses should know.
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>>290345150
Nothing about uplift implies they have to do it in complete secrecy and can't talk to anybody. And it's not an infiltration, they asked for a cover story and got one. Have they replaced the leaders of America/UK/China/France Russia to get the UN to do their bidding? The knights handling things is just an interim measure. Shiina is being groomed to be the world's protector after the TSAB leaves.

>The one progenitor we saw get defeated onscreen was dealt with by locals.
Locals that they didn't know anything about except a vague awareness of their existence. You can bet if they knew Towa was that powerful they would had been scouting for her.
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>>290345412
If Yuri appears and turns all these worthless characters into tree ornaments I will kiss the director's feet.
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>>290345412
No because they sidelined Nanoha and Fate and still label them "Best Friends" and haven't put any effort into Shiina and Towa feel like a couple either. Even if they kiss it wouldn't be earned
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>>290337195
They're calling this show the best insomnia treatment since Solo Leveling
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>>290345487
Are we really doing doublethink to defend a fictional UN now?
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>towa learns that shiina had another precious person before her and instantly attacks
women, amirite?
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>>290345590
I'm not sure what you mean by this but I'm going to assume you're a schizo who thinks the UN is a world government and EXCEEDS has replaced the Security Council P5 or something.
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>>290345709
calling it now, that the power of love will save Towa but they'll downplay how gay it is because Seven Arcs is spineless
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>That's all the Nano/Fate you get. Monitors in monitors.
AHAHAHAHAHAAHA!
The fuck are the writers thinking? This sucks.
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>>290345730
You are literally doing conspiracy theory tier mental gymnastics to justify the bad writing in the show, it is that simple.
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>>290345426
I think he is an Exceeds employee like how real life embassy hire from locals
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>>290345822
Well, you haven't refuted a single point in >>290345487, deciding to write meaningless gibberish instead, because your points are garbage.
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JK butt
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Oh boy, I can't wait to watch the new Nanoha episode and get my weekly dose of Nanoha and Fate! I'm sure it won't disapoint!
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>>290342760
prprprprpr
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buncha cry babies
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>>290346293
just skip this one then. We'll let you know when you can watch
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diaboli slayers too dumb to properly get vengeance
firechicken cooks up enough vengeance for everybody
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What a jealous insecure cunt.
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This shit is so ass man
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>>290337195
>Allies last episode
>You're giving off bad vibes and uhhhh we have to fight now
BRAVO KOJIMA
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WHAT WAS THE FUCKING POINT OF THE MAJIN HUNTERS IF TOWA WAS GOING TO DEPOWERD THEM WITHOUT HAVING A SINGLE (ONE,UNO, ICHI, EINS) MAGICAL FIGHT OF THEM AGAINST NANOHA, FATE OR ANY OF THE BELKAN KNIGHTS
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>>290340250
Not My Hayate-led Assault Unit.
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>>290346493
>TURN ON CNN
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>>290344476
Unless she pulls it out this week, no. Still waiting for her to get a magical sniper rifle staff so she can Gun Blaze enemies a mile away.
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>>290346515
job securities for bushiroad seiyuus
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This was written by a paid writer adult with some experience, right?
Not a script made by AI or some underage kid, right?
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>>290346594
If this was written by a human it's a good advertisement for AI. Nobody this incompetent should be allowed to work around normal people.
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>>290346047
Did she beat up more people yet?
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>>290343217
This is clearly executive meddling: the season. King Records came to them, just like with Vivid Strike, and told them "We have this new talent, make a show about them" and King Records managed to con another studio into funding an anime from 7arcs.

The writing is probably the result of many executive meetings and bulletpoints about how their talent could or could not be portrayed on TV.
I've had my crashout about it but I look forward to yours when it gets even dumber later in the season.
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>>290346594
an underage kid would want big flashy fight minimum
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At least Strikers training arc had the fights being animated
APOLOGIZE NOW
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>>290346515
This series is just a humiliation ritual for Nanoha fans.
>>290346634
hahahahahahahaha watch the show hahaahahaha
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>>290346736
I just want the hebe to beat me up, not watch the show
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nanoha fantachi i dont think this season can be savaged at this point
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>>290337195
Those are some long nails
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what the fuck is this thread, whining like a bunch of women...
this was a good episode
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>>290346857
I wonder what else you lie to yourself about.
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>>290346857
t. bushiroad
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>>290346699
Strikers had pretty good action. And good transformation sequences.
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>>290343583
This is bad even for shounen slop. I put Nanoha on a pedestal but I can't even lower my standards to find this shlock tolerable. We're 8 episodes in to a 13 episode series and we're finally getting some interpersonal conflict aaaaand. It's a huge misunderstanding.

A huge misunderstanding that is set up in exactly the right way for it to be resolved in half an episode when they want them to stop being enemies again.
What was the fucking point of the 6 episodes of flashbacks if the conflict is going to be a he-said-she-said misunderstanding? I like the villain, Eiji and Mana, and it's pretty effective for an antagonist to turn all his enemies against each other without ever showing himself in public, but he just undid six episodes of character development with a keystroke. This is WAY WORSE than Force's "Well they're objectively evil and bloodthirsty but look how cute they are!!!" this is a baffling series of events that I thought was leading up to a conflict based on the fact Shiina was a Diavoli and they were the Diavoli hunters. Instead it's just 'whoops guess we should have talked more teehee'. I defended this season, too.
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>>290346594
AI output is by definition average, the statistical mean across the entire training set. This means the probability of it generating something this bad is very low, but also means it will likely be boring.
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>>290346857
This is only a good episode if you ignored that there were 7 episodes previous to this that could have been dropped and not changed a thing about this episode. I'm sure you'll cope for an hour now.
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>>290343626
vivid strike at least had animated girls fighting each other
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Evil woman to the rescue!
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Is it it really that hard to remaster strikers into movies?
I miss Subaru~
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It has been 8 episodes and somehow they made it feel like nothing ever happens despite things actually happening. How did they do it?
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>>290346959
We will have Vivid Strike bullying webms forever, nobody will post this series when it finishes. That's the real metric for failure.
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>>290347041
This, forgettable boredom is the worst fate of any entertainment material.
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>gyaru jobbed to Signum without her even being on the show
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>>290346959
Plus Rinne becoming the anti-bully ranger
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>>290346941
I don't see what was so bad about it? Maybe they could have done more with the Shiina vs Towa fight scene, but it was obvious neither of them wanted to fight.
The slayers got some much needed characterization beyond just being Towa's back-up crew, but it was very much a set-up episode for the big conflict between Exceeds and the bad guys, with Towa caught inbetween.
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>>290347023
>It has been 8 episodes and somehow they made it feel like nothing ever happens despite things actually happening. How did they do it?
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>>290347131
>fight scene
>towa just grinding her sword against shii guns while they yap
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>>290347131
>I don't see what was so bad about it? Maybe they could have done more with the Shiina vs Towa fight scene, but it was obvious neither of them wanted to fight.
The reason misunderstanding plotlines suck and the reason /a/ has made fun of them for as long as I can remember since the original Nanoha aired is because the entire plot ends if one of two characters grow a brain and talk. It also means the entire conflict ends when they get that inevitable big villainous baddy speech about how Eiji was the mastermind and the entire thing was a setup.

The writing is just bad, it's always been bad. They should have made the conflict be about Shiina being Diaboli. Right now, the entire conflict ends if Towa googles the explosions to find out the Police set it up. This is a terrible plot line, and worse: It plays into nothing that we spent six episodes on flashbacks with except that Eiji and Mana exist and are the masterminds. They could have revealed that this episode and it would have the same difference to the story because everything is a FUCKING MISUNDERSTANDING.
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If Towa gets completely shit on by Mana then I'll be fine with how this turned out.
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>>290347131
>>290347221
Oh yeah that's the other major sin, it's been eight episodes in this action anime and we've skipped upwards of 10 giant monsters being annihilated by magic lasers, and what we do get looks as bafflingly as Spinzaku
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I actually like Shiina and I'm only watching for her
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A reminder there are nips paying 100k yen for an advance screening of this series
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>>290347131
>The slayers got some much needed characterization
They made my girl Yunna dumber than a brick. Fuck them for that. Not a single part of her argument against Shiina made any sense.
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>>290347411
I would genuinely kms
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We could've had "Nanoha and friends travel to different planets/dimensions and wreck shit up" but noooooo
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>>290347423
but she has BAD VIBES
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>>290347411
What are you talking about exactly?
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>>290347449
Nanoha and Friends travel to different planets/dimensions and practice exhibitionism at public pools and leave before the police get their faces.
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>>290347449
In the future people will think this was made by aliens because we can't create characters like this anymore.
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>>290347475
https://nanoha.com/EXGV/news/
Go to the 2026.07.02 post
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>>290347629
Wait, why the fuck is it so expensive? I had no idea. The only this we had here was the first 2-3 episodes in theaters, but only for mainstream anime like Bleach.
I also wonder what was the opinion of whoever sat through the 12 episodes considering they probably were huge fans.
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>>290347475
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>>290346635
who is the new talent?
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Japanese rarely mishandle a franchise this badly, right?
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>>290347731
Its the full 12 episode so they made it expensive. I'm surprised not a single person say anything about it.
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>>290347804
Usually it requires selling the franchise to canadians.
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>>290347748
I'm the ojisan in the front row above towa
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>>290347954
You just reminded me of that Super Neptunia game, fucking hell.
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>>290347999
I'm the guy in the black mask. Why did you keep reaching over and squeezing my balls?
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Holy shit I had to start skipping stuff because of how bored I was. I don't give a fuck about Towa's lesbian fanclub stop focusing on them.
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>>290347748
I didn't know Nanoha's fanbase was so overwhelmingly male and old kek.
But considering the price it makes sense that only mature dude can afford it, especially in Japan.
Funnily enough the only person I know who watched the original show was a girl
>>290347864
Yeah it's expensive af.
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>>290348318
>overwhelmingly male and old
The first season of the anime was 22 years ago.
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>>290348318
>I didn't know Nanoha's fanbase was so overwhelmingly male and old kek.
Anon I'm not sure if you are aware, but the original series is from 2004, and if you count Triangle Heart too since Nanoha started as a spin-off, we're talking about fans who have been around since 1998.
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>>290347804
This has nothing on Aquarion post-EVOL. Can probably find a bunch of other worse examples.

I'm still enjoying the show, they just botched the setup. Good guys vs sympathetic good people on the bad guys' side is a classic setup, nothing wrong with it, but because there's no reason for the two sides in this to come into conflict organically you're forced to create misunderstandings.
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>0064 was 22 years ago
Time itself might be worse than EXCEEDS.
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>>290347148
Endless Eight was KINO thoughbeit
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>>290347804
>>290348491
reminds me there is a thread earlier bitching about nu strike witches
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>>290347804
>rarely
hahahahahahhahaahahahhahahha
I would say treating a magical girl series like shit after it becomes a cash cow is the rule, not the exception.
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>>290348601
But they never even explained why she sits like that. It's a glaring plot hole if you ask me. Ruins the whole season.
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>>290348653
To be fair, strike witches without fanservice is an even greater travesty than anything in gunblaze.
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>>290348994
Taking the fanservice out of SW was the direct cause of the rise of gacha games.
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I don't understand why they decided to go super edgy with this. Why not try to make something like Lycoris with magical girls?
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>>290349159
It could have been done well by a competent team. You can put the main cast in any situation of any severity and it would be good because they are established and built-up characters. This is made by a people who doesn't know anything about anything, creating an all new setting with as little Nanoha as possible. If America hadn't won the War of Western Aggression, this team would be forced to kill themselves to regain their family honor.
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>>290344658
It was the first step. He probably thought it will take more.
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It seems to me there was a lot of input from executives for the writing; it is obvious that the edgelords should be somewhat antagonistic to Shina and co. but some exec probably thought that would make audiences dislike them so it had to be changed. Add up many changes like that and the writers just cant write anything good and we get this
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>140 replies
Oh cool I'm here early, just starting the episode now......hope its not mid (again)
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>Dykes breaking up without even dating first
At least it's realistic
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>>290346472
I liked her being a jealous bitch
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>>290348318
there is no ta single girl in there
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>>290349735
They dated

Offscreen

They met up like a bunch of times between their first meeting and the next episode, probably fucked for all we know, all chronicled in some fucking twitter post or w/e "short story"
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>>290348718
i also sit like that sometimes so i never thought it was strange
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>>290347148
>>290348601
Endless Eight was an event

It had to be experienced. Maybe older people who missed it back then can sort of get it if you explained it well enough but it cannot be told or described to younger people. The internet culture is too different nowdays.
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>>290349821
They're all magical girls in their hearts, just as we are.
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>>290340390
dammit I laughed
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>>290347435
To be fair the first episode was pretty good.
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>>290349944
moot never changes the board title for cultural events anymore, it can never be the same
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>>290348718
Her butt hurts.
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>>290350010
It really wasn't, everything since just have been much worse.
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>>290350011
What the fuck is a 'moot'?
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>>290350010
Not really. It just had the benefit of us not knowing where it was going to go. Though I guess it was the only episode that had any actual action in it.
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>>290350079
Haha very funny
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>>290350079
A mutual friend.
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The thing is, there wasn't even any real misunderstanding to drive the conflict between Towa and Shiina. Towa simply got angry because she semi-irrationally hates Diaboli with fire powers and then got double-mad that Shiina didn't want to let her absorb it. All the rest about how fire powers are dangerous and how Shiina must be a druggie or the UN must be experimenting on creating Diaboli or that Shiina has had an easy life is just Towa trying to publicly justify her insanity in trying to remove a power from what should have been a valuable ally and friend.
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In a peaceful world

Would Towa make a good girlfriend?
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>>290350175
She is too old
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>>290350225
This. In a peaceful world she would be thrown to the old men as a breeder to produce more girlfriend material.
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>>290350175
Only if she's all drugged and chained up in a cage
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>>290350175
She is clearly emotionally stunted so yes.
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>>290348067
Canadian neps?
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>>290350175
I would prefer Shiina for multiple reasons
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>>290350805
You wouldn't desecrate the mangled corpse of an alien little girl... r-right?
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Why are they some intermediate age between A's and Strikers? Pick a side already, moron executives.
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>Towa talking like they fucked and not just had coffee together
Calm the fuck down Towa...
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>>290351212
They did offscreen.
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>>290350167
she did shortly afterwards absorb the powers of her friends with no regrets, clearly she thinks she is basically invincible and doesn't need allies.
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>>290351346
Towa is very clearly is acting on self sacrifice and didn't want to throw her friends into the meat grinder
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The fact that Hayate is randomly an adult really makes me think that this show was supposed to be a standalone thing and was repurposed as a Nanoha series last minute
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>>290338642
You won't get it from this shitty anime
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>>290351166
I don't think that's an issue. They're around the same age as after the time skip in A's.
>>290351622
This is directly addressed in the manga but the anime studio don't seem to care about much of anything.
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>>290351622
Adult mode has been a staple of the franchise for like a decade now, I don't understand how people are confused about Hayate.
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At least Strikers didn't have an episode where Nanoha was just a jpg on some random monitor
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>>290347116
I also like to rewatch Rinne's transformation scene
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Why did Towa-chan abandon her harem?
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>>290339979
Is this peak female performance?
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>>290351777
Shiina was better
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>>290346369
Do not lick the fire chicken you'll get burned
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>Towa: Your power is dangerous, let me absorb it
>Shina: No, I got it from an important person (for some reason doesnt mention it's from the sister that died)
>Towa: CLEARLY THIS PERSON AND THE UN BITCHES ARE MORE IMPORTANT TO YOU THAN I AM TO YOU, BYE FOREVER

Who was in the wrong here?
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>>290351714
StrikerS was great and the hate was always unjustified, it's good to see people waking up
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>>290351830
Needs Vita to complete the Four Heavenly Chibis
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>>290337195
>Male bullshit
Yeah surely this will give this anime more money.
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>>290351871
the writers
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>>290351871
They literally just had lunch together one time... She's already acting like some sort of jealous lover.
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>>290351919
They bathed together anon
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>>290351871
>lesbian is bipolar
I don't see the problem.
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>>290351953
I bathe together with a bunch of dudes when I was back in HS. I don't start acting like a psycho ex.
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>>290351871
>(for some reason doesn't mention it's from the sister that died)
That's a very personal detail, I can see why she doesn't want to share it even if Towa is acting like as if they've shared a bed and adopted a kid together or something.
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>>290337195
What in the fuck is that pile of shit on the left? Is that thing what you call a "male"?
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>>290347272
I dont think the misunderstanding is even an issue here.

1) Shina wants to do things "right", basically take Towa and the Diaboli slayer in officially and then clear their names
2) Towa is only upset Shina wont give up her fire power. The thought of going with Shina is so ridiculous that she's not even mad at Shina for suggesting it.

So basically the "set up" from Mana and her boytoy barely even matter here. Shina knows Towa is innocent and Towa is only mad Shina rejecting her.

>>290352016
Shina literally said she also lost her sister to a diaboli
Why not go one step further and clarify said sister is the source of the power?
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>>290351992
Wrong
You showered with some dudes in High School
You didn't bathe with them.
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>>290352075
>Shina literally said she also lost her sister to a diaboli
Oh yeah that's true. You're right.
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>>290352098
You never went to the bathhouse with your bros?
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I hope people realize that 12 episodes is not long enough for any anime and the reason why seasonals are so forgettable now, if this shit was simply 2x longer it would have had more than enough time to show the gayness between shiina and towa so this breakup wasn't so jarring, it would have given us cool fight scenes and made Nanoha and Fate not irrelevant. Instead it's all crammed into a 12 episode show where we are told shit happens off screen.
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>>290351706
they also specifically said that adult mode was for doing magic mma and not for tricking people into thinking you're older than you are
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>>290352152
No, that's gay.
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Today I will withhold vital information from my mentally unstable girlfriend for no reason other than to be mysterious. #justgirlthings
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>>290352158
This would be relevant if the Nanoha series people remembered most weren't both 13 episodes. I do in general agree with you though, but it's obviously possible to make a good Nanoha in a single cour because it was done twice.
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>>290352158
If you can't tell a good story in 11-13 episodes, you can't tell a good story in 22-26 episodes.
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>>290352210
Try telling Evangelion in 12 episodes and removing the other 13 then
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>>290352236
A story is not the same as every story.
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>>290352158
12 episodes can be enough.
This stupid series is just afraid to commit

Towa and her gang are all good guys
Shina and UN are good guys
Nobody believes Towa is actually the culprit
Shina has a good reason to hold on to her power but doesnt explain all of it

There was zero reason for conflict and misunderstanding
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>>290352161
But unlike Vivio, Hayate is a bad girl.
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>>290352161
The context is different
>NanoFate mama telling Vivio she shouldn't pretend to be a JK to buy alcohol or do enjo kosei
vs
>TSAB doing whatever the fuck it wants with mages who are treated as adults who can command fleets and blow up planets if they really want to.
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>>290352264
Hayate needs a spanking
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>>290352158
13 episodes would have been enough if they committed to picking a side. Either make it a full magical girl show with Nanoha and Fate that includes yuri fanservice on the side for the fans or make it a yuri show starring the new leads and go all in on writing the conflict around Shiina and Towa directly with their actions shaping the narrative. Instead they chose neither of these and made a bloated show for nobody

It doesn't have enough explicit yuri to make normies happy and cause it to become a breakout hit
It doesn't have enough fanservice to please the Otaku
It doesn't even focus on the main characters of the franchise
It doesn't give us cool action set pieces
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>>290352236
You probably could if you removed the filler and incomplete episodes.
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>>290352177
>my mentally unstable girlfriend
This would have been better if they ACTUALLY showed Towa was a psycho
But no. She's nice to everyone and even when she was upset this episode, she didnt really go crazy, just butthurt.

This is giving me gacha characterization vibes. Everyone has to be nice and inoffensive so people will spend money on them.
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>>290352075
>Shina wants to do things "right", basically take Towa and the Diaboli slayer in officially and then clear their names
Anon, she literally said she would not arrest them. She didn't even do a single thing to remotely threaten them.
I know the plot is dumb and boring, but you do need to remember what you're complaining about.
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>>290352320
EXPLOSION
PADDLEFORM
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>>290352412
She said she wont arrest them after it was clear they wont go with her
She still said she'll testify that Towa and the others weren't responsible. This is why I said Shina thinks the right thing to do is through the official channels, which Towa barely even considers.
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Summer 2025 — Watanare wins anime of the season
Fall 2025 — Watatabe wins anime of the season
Spring 2026 — Botan #4 despite the original work selling under 18K copies in circulation
Summer 2026 — KimiShu currently tied for the 2nd spot before the tragedy episodes get rated and likely wins this season

How does a Studio fuck up this badly at reading the room at the current state of the anime industry? If you aren't a Shounen or Power Fantasy, the only way to blow up in acclaim at this point is by being a yuri, not a subtextual work but a actual explicit one, you have like the most famous yuri couple ever and 20 years of history too and still refuse
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>>290352491
Yeah, the girl who was hunting invasive species on her own before Nanoha scouted her because of her distrust of organizations is really hung up on taking them in.
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>>290352560
I believe in Sayonara Lara.
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>>290352412
>>290352491
also more reasons why plots based on misunderstandings are dumb. everyone has to be an idiot for it to work.
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>>290352600
It's obviously yuri, Seven Arcs has no excuses with Nanoha EXGV
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>>290352272
>using magic to sneak into the club is bad
>but using it to trick international government is ok
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>>290352621
>everyone has to be an idiot for it to work.
Including the viewer.
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>EP01: Shina intro, gets her power and meets Nanoha
>EP02: Shina joins UN, learns more about the Invaders. Towa and friends are introduced
>EP03: Shina and Towa gay episode
>EP04: Towa flashback of the research lab and airport incident
>EP05: Diaboli Slayers and EXCEEDS run into each other near those giant progenitors
>EP06: Mana/Eiji flashback and comes up with a plan to nab Towa. More Towa and Shina gay.
>EP07: Evil plan in action. Shina and Towa are separated as civilians and then ran into each other in uniforms
>EP08: The Breakup(s)

I just went back and skimmed through the entire series again.

How would you rework/condense this? Assuming you cant just rewrite the whole thing.
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>>290352639
i got bored of lara 5minutes in
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>>290352158
>12 episodes is not long enough

Tell that to the likes of Madoka.
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>>290352809
If the series were actually paced like that without all the pointless shit taking up space, I could see it being a solid 6/10.
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>>290352925
But that is exactly what's in those episodes.
For starters I'd combine Towa's flashabck into something else. It did not need a whole episode.
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>>290352893
I've always thought Madoka could have used more breathing room. More time with Mami in the beginning and more episodes of Sayaka's breakdown.
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>>290343829
>you have an easy life
I honestly want to punch this gyaru retard for being so mean when she know nothing of her
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>>290353022
It isn't, there is a bunch of dead air in every episode while all the cool action and interesting character development happens offscreen.
I'd kill for an entire episode of Shina and Towa being gay or Diaboli Slayers and EXCEEDS fighting progenitors.
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>>290347006
we don't want the franchise ruined again, I think fanbase has made very clear at this point they only care when they are lolis.
Even if they are sidelined like in this show is fine as long as they don't make adults again.

Strikers barely was tolerated and everything after killed the franchise. Only the movies got back it into shape.
Let's not make the same mistake again
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>>290353130
That line works if they actually established the difference between those fighting on the ground and the fancy UN higher ups
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>>290352809
Delete all of Towa's friends, give their screen time to shiitowa being gay
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>>290351830
>>290347449
Only Prillya can compete with this sort of promotional art.
Japanese are way too pussies nowdays. They used to be cool
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>>290353242
making towa a loner schizo jealous her first real connection already had someone before her probably would work better
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>>290353127
Considering most people only give a shit about two episodes, even having it be 12 is a bit of a stretch.
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>>290353130
You can't blame her. The writers just gave up. The Diaboli slayers ran into Exceeds in the middle of them getting ready to exterminate 2 progenitors and Yuuna says this because?
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>>290353280
Movies are the perfect length and format for Madoka stories I feel.
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>>290347449
how is this one is not on boorus? Is miyajima hitoshi too, isn't it? but is not on any of the boorus
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>>290353295
>Gyaru: You;re privileged because you work for the UN
>Shina: I am?
>Gyaru: ....
>Shina: ....

Could have been a comedy scene
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>>290353347
Considering most people only give a shit about one, even that is a bit of a stretch.
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>>290353410
>Exterminating invasive species and progenitors is a normal life?
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>Craaaaaaaawling in my skin, these wounds will not heal
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>>290354091
>you can forget all about me
Exactly what I will do when your show ends.
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>>290353295
You think Towa beat up Gyaru because Gyaru beat up her girlwife earlier?
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So what purpose does this being set in the Nanohaverse even serve? Nanofate are irrelevant, magic is irrelevant, intelligent devices are irrelevant.

I know, it's just to boost the new talent even if it means taking a shit Nanofate.
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>>290354268
I was wondering why she did that, you might be right.
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>>290354273
They needed to graft this abortion onto some other IP no matter what. You can tell they obviously don't have enough material for a fully original setting. Nanoha was just the unlucky host series.
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>>290352893
Madoka is overrated shit
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>>290345380
The most plausible way Hayate could convince the police to hand over Towa is by threatening to expose the Diaboli in the government/police force, which Fate is presumably going to discover in a few hours after nobody bothered looking into it for months. But even if they get Towa, they've still got the issue of the Japanese government (maybe more) being filled with cannibalistic monster people.
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>>290352560
>Watanare wins anime of the season
>Watatabe wins anime of the season
>Botan #4 despite the original work selling under 18K copies in circulation
>KimiShu currently tied for the 2nd spot before the tragedy episodes get rated and likely wins this season
anon, what the fuck are you talking about? Are these rankings in your schizo head?
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>>290347748
>virgin convention
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>>290346634
We don't beat people up in this show. We just talk about doing it.
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>>290354360
Hayate has an entire book full of solutions to both those problems
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>>290354467
How can you call yourself a fan of magical girls if you won't even devote yourself to wizardry?
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>>290346472
You already had friends before meeting me? Unforgivable! Just ignore my other friends who've just shown up.
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I think it's time to apologize to Force
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>>290354590
Force is still the biggest blight in this franchise's legacy
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>>290354650
not anymore
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>>290346515
The entire point of Towa having a team of non-characters was to communicate Mana's capabilities to the audience by having her slaughter them before the final battle. Now they're just going to get killed off as regular humans because EXCEEDS will try to do a prisoner exchange without sending a single magical girl bodyguard.
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>>290354705
This will be forgotten in a month
We are still suffering the consequences of Force's bad writing, this series being one of them, a decade later
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>>290354650
Force still had good amounts of Nanofate and full on Gundam Nanoha. Hucks were fun too and better than Spaghetti.
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>>290346916
>"towa, shut the fuck up for five minutes so I can explain the past seven episodes to you"
Conflict resolved.
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>>290354748
What are you talking about

The episode ended on them finding out Towa's been seeing Shina, so it's obvious they'll call Shina for help
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The worst part of this is they wasted a Nana OP on it. What a piece of crap.
I continue to be reminded never to get excited for any media in the year 202X
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>>290347221
Shiina still doesn't have her staff so she can't do melee fights yet.
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>>290354982
i mean the op aint even good
the ed is solid though
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>>290347406
Shiina is the one good thing about the season but she's held back by the studio not wanting to do action scenes and only being allowed to interact with Towa.
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>>290354989
>Shiina still doesn't have her staff so she can't do melee fights yet.
She's weak.
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>>290347804
Rarely but not never.
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>>290347804
anon you don't want to look at Higurashi or Muv-Luv
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>>290349159
Some edginess is appropriate for the setting but killing three sets of parents, two little girls and a cat is excessive.
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>>290354918
>The episode ended on them finding out Towa's been seeing Shina, so it's obvious they'll call Shina for help
Did you miss this?
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>>290355428
This is a smaller gripe than most, but I also really hate the fresh graphic design grad they hired to smear shit over the screen whenever there's a title card or a character/ability name.
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>>290349364
We absolutely cannot have our new talent play villains because our Japanese viewers don't like villain characters for some reason.
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>>290355428
Yeah, they went to UN for help

Do you think Hayate is gonna let them loose and possibly get killed now?
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>>290352170
What if you're a girl?
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fuck fate
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>>290346047
Most important shot of the episode by far.
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>>290355644
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>>290355428
towa is so gonna be made friends with. HARD
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>>290355017
I happened to like the OP but it doesn't fit the "nothing ever happens" tone of this Nanohaless, Fateless, Vitaless disappointment
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>>290352158
12 episodes is long enough for certain stories, but this obviously isn't one of those.
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>>290353295
If Yuuna thinks working for the UN is so great, why didn't she ask for a job after taking down the kaiju at the drug factory?
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>>290346916
It’s not a misunderstanding, it’s Towa being a huge stubborn edgy bitch.
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My wife looking beautiful once again this week.
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>>290356273
It's a misunderstanding and only works because Towa is currently deciding to be an idiot due to writer's remorse (writer is having remorse about wasting 7 episodes before getting to the main plot of the show)
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>>290356343
Need to unbutton her shirt one more button and loosen her tie a bit more, can't see the cleavage this week.
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We sort of knew this as early as episode 3, right?
>ShiiTowa being gay girlfriends
>go on a date
>misunderstandings <-- we are here
>???
>Nanoha's hot, pink thing
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>>290356413
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>>290356475
Better but now she's competing with cheeky hebe tummy and thighs
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>>290356343
I want her and Shiori to be my big sisters.
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>>290356493
Yuuna's formula still wins. Blonde twin tails with sleeveless boobs. Oh and she can choke and slam a bitch
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>>290337195
>not having nanoha and fate fight the devil slayers even for a bit

this anime keeps disappointing me over and over. But I can at least give them credit for not having the hotblooded protagonist Kuze going to try to arrest Towa on sight just because of ''orders''. Still wasn't expecting their conflict to be over already

Still, everything is so much ass
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>>290343583
yes, it's barely a nanoha show
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I bet Yuuna wears purple lacey underwear.
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>>290346515
>>290346594
they probably had planned 24 episodes, but were reduced to 12 last minute before production started
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>>290337195
How can anyone is still able to watch anything past the second season is beyond me, it will never get good that ship sailed almost 20 years ago
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>>290352158
nothing can be done with 12 episodes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OrgpX-_bFqM
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>>290352158
yeah, it's like the very best series of this franchise, A's, is also 13 episodes right?
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They need to show Shiina's massive honkers in a battle damaged shirt soon or I swear
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>>290354230
Rude
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Still a better season than whatever fanfic /a/ would come up with.
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>>290357115
>Cold open on NanoFate in bed, transformed, violently and sweatily bashing clams
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>>290353201
Fuck you I want my Nanoha idolizing tomboy magical punch girl back
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>>290354779
>We are still suffering the consequences of Nanoha fans being bitches with garbage taste
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>>290357115
>SoL anime of loli Nanoha and her family with bath fan service every episode
I won, now bend over and suck my cock retard.
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>>290357383
Nah.
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>>290357383
>he wants an anime with Nanoha's earth family
Lmao, you are a fucking faggot. Holy shit.
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>>290357436
Obviously he means her real family, not the forgotten eroge side cast.
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>>290357115
A 26 episode series that takes place after A's that involves Nanoha, Fate, and Hayate in loli form solving some case with plenty of slice of life segments.
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>>290351992
> I bathe together with a bunch of dudes when I was back in HS. I don't start acting like a psycho ex.

Heartless slut
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>>290357510
He doesn't even realize he's the one who left and broke all their hearts. They're likely all villains by now.
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>>290357486
If it's /ll/ with Fate + Vivio momcest, then I will indeed take back what I said.
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>>290357508
Yawn
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>>290357436
Keep eating shit nigger, the franchise died because of retards like you
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>>290357556
Nevermind, he was a fag the whole time. My bad.
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>>290357726
If it was up to you it would've stayed a forgotten spinoff of a mediocre VN
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>>290357762
Yurishit killed the franchise, you can't deny that, no one cares about nanoha, cope about it.
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Oh, it's just a falseflagger
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>>290357833
Lmao, Nanoha was as its best before it started pushing the yurishit and the senseless space shit, it's actually now when it's a forgotten franchise
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>>290357939
The yuri is okay and cute (even if I don't like yuri).
The real problem is that they kept putting more and more random characters into the story and just mishandling it overall. It made the main characters less and less relevant, especially Nanoha who's a title characters, which is even more shameful
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>>290357990
The yurishit is what started the inevitable decline of the series, for some reason they started pushing new uninteresting characters and pushing aside the already loved characters and in the end they even tossed aside the mcs, what happened to this mahou shojo series is just tragic.
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>>290357939
I was going to point that the current state of the franchise is so bad, that even the yuri hater shitposter didn't bother to post anymore for 2 whole threads.
And then I saw your post, and got my hopes for Nanoha restored. So thank you, Anon, for keeping Nanoha alive for the whole fandom.

>>290358090
Since S1 episode 4 then, such a steady decline.
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>>290358158
Keep coping /u/ shitter, no one gives a fuck about Nanoha since A's and it will remain forever like that
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Lmao. Imagine thinking anyone gave a shit about Nanoha's earth family and the TH3 crew.
Does anyone even remember their names?
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>>290357990
> The yuri is okay and cute (even if I don't like yuri).
The real problem is that they kept putting more and more random characters into the story and just mishandling it overall. It made the main characters less and less relevant, especially Nanoha who's a title characters, which is even more shameful

While this is true, Nanoha’s best moments came in StrikerS when the cast bloat was already happening. The problem is that instead of recalibrating after StrikerS they went and ruined everything.
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>>290358314
Yeah, Nanoha has been shit since they introduced a second female character.
The whole franchise has survived since then not because of any of the good qualities of any of the anime, but solely thanks the healthy community it has, that depends exclusively on the existence of a resident antiyurifag that promotes permanent activity by being constantly triggered.
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I TRIED SO HARD AND GOT SO FAR
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>>290358411
Indeed no one gives a shit because no one gives a shit about Nanoha anymore.
>>290358550
First 2 seasons had 0 yuri retardo-kun, the franchise didn't survive, it's a husk of what it was, having an anime adaptation with 0 budget that literally no one is watching is not surviving.
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>first two seasons had 0 yuri
Now I know you're trolling
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>>290358645
Wow, shitposter-kun is not aware of the size of the Nanoha fandom or the content of the two original season, what a surprise.
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>>290358553
Name our band
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Do all magical girls have harems? Where are the men harems?
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>>290358815
>Where are the men harems?
In the magical boys anime I guess.
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>>290358815
I kind......lost track of this

Is that the big bitch in the bottom panel? Or someone else
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I want Nanoha to tell Shiina to just kick Towa's ass until she is willing to listen.
Ideally with Shiina reacting like that sounds like awful advice until Fate insists that it works
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As shit as Exceeds is Strikers is still worse, had no budget and was twice as long. And we dont talk about Vivid abortion, it may as well dont exist
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All Shina had to say was "I love you Towa, please dont leave and let's face this together"
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>>290359039
Yea it's that giant sister, she has her own harem.
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>>290358735
>>290358757
>yuritard delusions
Lol, keep coping pig
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>>290359131
>had no budget and was twice as long
Wait until you find out this shit has another season to go.
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>>290359302
I wonder how many fucking chapters I'm behind on now

I think the very last one I read was someone in like a spooky house? And they were meeting the new antagonists (the second set of antagonists) for the first time or something?
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>>290359131
>had no budget
Are you implying this current series has any budget?
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>>290359176
Yeah, but you wouldn't be able to force a conflict between the two leads that way, and Tsuzuki's goal since the beginning was obviously to make Shiina and Towa have a NanoFate, ViviEin style confrontation. This rivals to lovers thing is the thing he's expected to do since he based the S1 pilot on CCS.

>>290359347
Dude, it's no fun if you get triggered only to write a low-effort, four-words-long shitpost. Please do better, this thread depends on you.

>>290359609
The original TV version of StrikerS was pretty bad, I think this series may have a higher budget per episode, but I may be wrong.
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I'd rather have ViVid Strike season 2 than this.
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>>290359705
These two make for compelling viewing, unlike the cast of this season.
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Did the anti-yurishitter get bored of Madoka threads so now he's trying to claim Nanoha for himself?
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>>290360169
Nanoha's yuri status have been controversial since the 00. It's Seven Arcs's fault for not being willing to compromise
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>>290359705
I didn't take Einhart for someone who would do a hoverhand. Also, they have to step up their game, they didn't even swap bikini bottoms for that picture.

>>290360205
Only to a lesser degree in some places outside of Japan, in countries with people that had a more conservative upbringing and have issues with this kind of stuff.
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>>290347449
>>290351830
WHY IS IT SO HARD TO MAKE A SHOW WITH THE CHARACTERS LOOKING LIKE THIS?
WHY?
DO THEY FUCKING HATE MONEY OR SOMETHING?
I AM MAD. THIS EXCEEDS SHIT IS StrikerS-TIER AT THIS POINT.
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Fuck Vivio
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>>290360371
Most otakus are chuds, both in Japan and overseas
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>>290360457
Most Japanese fans of subtext yuri stuff have no issues with yuri fans. JP waifufags doesn't care for the western political/culture war bullshit and can both want to fuck the girls while also appreciating yuri with them.
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I fuckin' love gay girls doing gay things with each other. Who doesn't?
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>>290360633
I would eat all the sand on that beach.
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>>290360608
If that was true, Nanoha and Fate would kiss decades ago
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>>290356475
Shiori a best, somehow
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>>290344759
>Hayate, the walking nuke whose entire deal is playing politics, going along with this stupidity is nothing but character assassination.
Surely she's not actually going along with it, the public announcement of arrest of the gacha squad was a counterbait to lure whoever made the bait announcements earlier, right? Right?
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>>290360818
Seems more like a writer issue more than a otaku issue desu. How many years did it take for someone to figure out watanare?
>>290360948
I think its weird they didn't fully counter it with the existence of those diaboli making drugs etc
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>>290360633
>Who doesn't?
Gay men.
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>>290360948
The last part of the episode is her talking to Towa's groupies without any kind of restraints on them, so obviously.
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>>290360948
The only scene we had of Hayate this episode was her collapsed in a pile of her own arms, lamenting her mistakes
Which I thought was actually poignant; it was the first time we've seen that she's a JC1 pretending to be a commander, and that vulnerability is endearing and useful character development. Like she's not perfect yet, she's not a political wizard yet, she's a middle schooler cosplaying as a diplomat and sometimes it bites her in the ass.
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>>290356726
It could have been so much better if hotblooded protagonist Kuze threw away her badge right as the news were broadcast and eloped with Towa, even if it would only last for one episode until they are discovered and befriended.
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>>290361453
You just want the black haired lesbian to grab the other lesbian by the hand and run off with her and elope with her and I respect that
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>>290361453
this show wasnt that much better
it was just okay
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Reminder you need to read the Exceed manga to understand the anime
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>>290362994
not reading it unless it has towa x shina kiss
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>>290357383
They should just animate Innocent
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EP01: Shiina backstory, gets her power / Towa backstory / Shiina meets Towa
EP02: NanoFate fanservice — opens with a kiss and daily life yuri fluff / Hayate & Wolkenritter introduction / Nanoha and Fate blow shit up on an EXCEEDS mission / Nanoha meets Shiina at the end
EP03: Shiina is recruited to the UN but declines housing / Towa hunts Diaboli alone to gain power / Shiina and Towa go on another date and move in together
EP04: Mana/Eiji introduction / Nanoha and Fate investigate the villains & blow more shit up
EP05: Shiina/Towa gay episode / several weeks pass as they repeatedly go on dates / Towa becomes increasingly attached and clearly falls in love with Shiina
EP06: Shiina/Towa gay episode / Shiina tries to confess to Towa, but a terrorist bombing interrupts them
EP07: Shiina and Towa are separated during the attack / Nanoha and Fate stop the larger terrorist plot / Shiina exposes her powers publicly to save Towa from being blindsided
EP08: Towa learns Shiina’s power came from another “precious person” and snaps / forcibly takes Shiina’s power so she can become the only one capable of protecting her / convinced that only she deserves to be Shiina’s special person, Towa cuts her off and goes after Mana/Eiji alone which breaks Shina's heart
EP09: Nanoha/Fate take over the investigation / Hayate coordinates the response / EXCEEDS tracks Towa and the villains / Shiina is withdrawn and barely functional
EP10: Nanoha/Fate/Hayate action-heavy episode / villains’ plan fully exposed / Towa’s situation worsens / Shiina finally decides she can’t just sit there and starts moving again
EP11: Towa kills Mana and absorbs her power, becoming a uncontrollable monster whose power levels are now unstable
EP12: Nanoha hits Towa with a huge starlight breaker and defeats her after a huge fight, Shina gets her powers back and confronts Towa, Towa asks Shina to kill her deeming her actions unforgivable, Shina confesses instead & they kiss, Towa joins the UN
Done
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>>290363070
None of these harlots are innocent.
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>>290363320
you cant have all that gay towa build up and then have shinna be the one to confess before getting interrupted
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>>290363320
Much better structurally and fixes every issue with the show.
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>>290337195
>Towa should be louder, angrier, and have access to a time machine. And whenever Towa isn't on screen all the other characters should ask, where is Towa?
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>four episodes to redeem the whole season
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>>290363320
See? The plot was doable in 12 episodes in a way that has the OC's and doesn't sideline Nanoha and Fate and has a backbone of yuri driving the character motivations. Why couldn't Seven Arcs do that?
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I'm surprised Nanoha never mentioned what she went through with Fate, but this isn't a Nanoha show.
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>>290363551
It can't be redeemed at this point.
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this show is so ass..
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>four hours until day old thread
>nearly 400 replies
Bruh, I clocked out of the Nanoha frachise when StrikerS started airing and dropped it around ep7 and never looked back.
Nanoha ended with A's. Why are you guys still here, let alone watching this shit? Holy fuck. Japanese producers really hold anons by the balls by producing dogshit seasons just to milk franchise eternally.
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this is why you dont put 12 years old as a UN commander
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>>290366139
>aniwaves.ru
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I thought people liked Gears of Destiny
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Why is Towa going full retard?
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>>290347748
LMAO
their eyes look so dead
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>>290366343
Her brain has been fried by the horrible revelation that her friend has other friends, please understand
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Shiina and touwa are both ass
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>>290366694
This entire show is ass.
At this point I don't know is StrikerS is actually better.
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They should just reboot Force as an anime and be done with it.
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>>290367153
I don't want the twink MC though
Make that other new girl MC and yuri with the heroine and I am in

Meanehile, in Sunday Morning Cartoons they have sexier transformation than us now...
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>>290353295
It should've been Signum here
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>>290355186
Chris isn't fat
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The only time Nanoha has a semblance of a personality really is in Strikers...
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>>290357177
>transformed
Does that make it hotter?
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>>290345806
>we want a new audience
>using a known franchise
About it.

The old characters have more presence in StrikerS. But it's just one of those problems, do you want the new work to just wank the old characters doing a new mission (yeah, kinda) or do you want to expand the world, so the old characters aren't simply the only ones doing anything to save said world? Got a problem? Chuck these 3 legacy characters at it, their power is maximum, when you let them go all in. (That's how you get force and anti-magic proliferation).
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>>290360849
Shiori has the bust and the right onee-san flavour, I do like her a lot.
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>>290368170
She's hotter than the ugly gyaru
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>>290356475
I don't know any of there names except Towa
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>>290352075
>Why not go one step further and clarify said sister is the source of the power?
"You made your sister take diaboli drugs?"
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>>290368048
Nanoha and Fate don't have to be the strongest people around. They got their ass kicked by an instructor.
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>>290356475
Needed to be edgier.
And/or more screentime
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>we may have been good friends who understood each other but now there has to be drama because... there just has to okay
This is some extremely retarded development. Even the shit "misunderstanding" trope where they don't talk and mistake each other for enemies would've been better than this, because at least the story would be pretending there is a reason for them to treat each other like this. In-universe the sword girl is such a dumb bitch now, it's incredible, fucking everything up for literally no reason and the antagonists didn't even have to do anything.
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>>290367508
tummy! why is she so sweaty?
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>>290353268
Sadly, having a country that is gung-ho about always follow the laws and the rules no matter what has a double edge where a larger entity like payment processors can simply subvert the government and write nonsense legislation.

Ride was fun while it lasted.
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>>290363320
9.5/10 still need to work in a subplot where Towa and Shiina adopt a stray neko / loli / neko loli
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>>290365999
One of its challenges is a suspicious LACK of ass
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>>290354650
Move over Force, a contender for the crown has emerged
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>>290355575
Yeah
I don't expect the writers of this to be smart enough to realize that Hayate has experience with crooked government officials
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>>290357189
Absolutely this.

>>290353201
>we don't want the franchise ruined again
Too fucking late, because you got it. At least Subaru and the rest of the Forwards had nice racks. Shiina and Towa are as flat as a fucking board. Such flat singularities that they robbed Nanoha and Fate of their boobs.
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>>290369358
That's what it is, really. A huge misunderstanding in thinking Shiina is a fed
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>>290370173
True, every same sex protagonist pair needs to adopt a loli at some point in their lives, that' the law.
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One universe over
>it was a bold choice to give Nanoha and Fate a duo transformation sequence and for them to scissor naked during it, but we thought the audience would like it, so we put it in.
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I really like Shiina and want to see more of her. I can see why the Nanoha characters feel out of place right now though.

I gotta say though, as a recent fan of this series it gets so turbulent after A's. I was really on board with StrikerS being 2 cour, but the characters mostly weren't strong enough to justify this (Subaru's awesome though). Vivid I would actually love to see completed, but it's not happening. Vivid Strike I don't even need to comment on.

Reflection+Detonation were pretty good, but I feel like 1 or 2 things were holding them back from being amazing. This is quite a strange series honestly
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Shiina is a perfectly good girl! She's a JK magical girl with fire powers and big tits, what's not to like? Her only problem is that NANOHA is plastered all over the title card.
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>>290343829
Yeah, like I could get the conflict prior because Towa's gonna be anal about muh fire powers no matter what and shiina being a fed. Like that being the cause of schism makes perfect sense for these characters, but this like was too retarded even for me.
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>>290343583
I hate Vivid Strike more, but I think this is fundamentally a worse show.
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>>290337195
stop liking evil women
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>>290371648
I think Vivid Stirke was okay, it's just not Nanoha, and it wasn't pretending to be Nanoha.
Exceeds instead is suposed to be a Nanoha anime, and is pretending to be one, but it's definitely not. At least the manga is much better, for now.
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>>290371701
Go to Precure thread and tell them to stop liking Arcana Shadow.
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I'm a lonely depressed salaryman where's my evil alien green woman wife?
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So has there been any substantial NanoFate shipping in the new anime yet? I feel like I haven't see anything except the OP where Nanoha hugs fate over the shoulders.
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>>290371701
I don't like them, I LOVE and want to BREED them
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>>290372443
Nothing substantial yet. I wish NanoFate and the wolkenritter had more focus, but I doubt it will be the case.
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>>290372443
None. It is segregated to King Record store bonus for ordering the manga. It runs out quickly everytime...
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>>290371902
Do they fuck?
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>>290372443
i guess there was the scene early on when shinna said fate was pretty and nanoha immediately hugged her to proclaim thats her bff
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>>290373064
Constantly.
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>>290373064
Don't worry, I'm sure he'll get fucked.
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comfy
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>>290373068
>she's my girlwife!
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>>290369358
>show only gets going because of a woman moment
It's accurate , but i don't want realism
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>>290375075
>because of a woman moment
What did he mean by this?
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>>290367292
She's obeast.
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bump
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>>290373289
>bitch think she's part of the team
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>>290359128
Towa needs an ass kicking from one of the EXCEEDS girls so she realises she can't beat Mana alone.
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>>290360948
Hayate "arresting" the gacha gang prevents them from being handed over to Mana. Now, she just needs to figure out how to get Towa out without collapsing the Japanese government or ordering a mass befriending.
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b
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have they fought any big aliens yet or did they really just make that shit up to have fodder enemies in the gacha
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>>290383968
Offscreen
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>>290357115
I have read fanfiction better than this.
It's called BetrayerS
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>>290357436
That's called Triangle Hearts and is what let this series exist you stupid newshit.
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>>290353407
I got it from his X iirc
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>>290384136
That one was shit too, I waste of top tier art.
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>>290383968
lol
hahahahahhahahaha

on another note the fights this episode looked like they were animated with classic cel-sliding.
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>>290384192
Actually, it's way better than this, in every conceivable way. Even the Strike Witches/Nanoha quest that was on /qst/ for years is better than this.
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Why do they hate Innocents?
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>>290359128
I want them to fight, they're clearly going to fight soon and the blueballing is because the current fights are so low-budget that they need to save it all for one big penultimate finale.

The problem with GBV is it would have been better as an OVA.
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>>290366139
She got played like a fucking FIDDLE
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What is this constant mention of Gacha

What gacha

Where is it

>>290384136
>BetrayerS
Oh man I remember this
Or sort of remember this
I should go read it
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>>290366139
Nigga use mirur0 instead
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>>290384663
there has been no gacha announcement but people are theorizing there will be one after the show finishes airing because half the shit in this show is the kind of shit you'd see in cheap gachas
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Remember, she is not an elite strategist yet, she is still a chuuni dork
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>>290357115
13 Episodes of Levi and Stern being hired as Mercenaries to suppress monsters arising in the Infinite Library, and going absolutely crazy berserk on every single problem they encounter with multiple cartridges expended every episode.
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>>290384935
26 episodes of Levi showing up in crossovers with other magical girl shows trying to "play" with the MCs and ending every episode with a reminder that killing is badong.
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>>290384905
Didn't she coordinate the final fight in a's?
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>>290385226
In the A's movie at least, Chrono did most of the coordinating
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>>290371701
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>>290385226
>>290385297
Mostly the old guy's plan if you want to get technical, the group collectively improvises at the end.
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>>290385342
Man these webms seem so dated when she almost died to being lightly kicked once last episode.

I'd like to see a few of these remade with her new look, though. Precure gets a naked transformation this season while Nanoha got that weird head-swapping thing and the full bodysuit
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>>290343583
It's the only good thing to come out of this franchise.
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>>290385560
I'm so mad she ended up being a jobber in her awesome form and now she has to use the edgy one to finally MAYBE win for 3 minutes
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>>290385749
>for 3 minutes
I wish I was this optimistic..
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>>290349364
japanese media in general now has this fetish about making every single bad persona be misunderstood and actually good. movies, manga, games, dramas. they are on a roll to not acknowledge that evil people exists. even fighting games are suffering from this shit show. every villain has to be redeemed. i know that tekken will find a way to reddem kazuya and heihachi in t9
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>>290386251
I think it's another symptom of trying to lower the age ratings of these shows to appeal to the 'wider audience'. Western media went through the same kind of hyper-casualization with its movies and media before it had its huge collapse because it boiled everything fun out from it.
Eiji and Mana still seem pretty evil and irredeemable so there's hope yet
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>>290349364
Nanoha is way too lewd bros.
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>>290386616
It's just a swimsuit out of ten
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>>290386616
Children aren't lewd. Please don't think about sticking your dick into a 9 year old Nanoha and blowing your load inside her. She can't even get pregnant!
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Imagine if she did that to you
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what happened to the OG Nanoha soul?
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>>290386964
gone with the hair poofs
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>>290386964
It still exists in the dimensional void, I'm sure of it.
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>>290387107
Reflection/Detonation truly were a mistake
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>>290386964
/ss/ with onee-chan
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>>290386473
japan not understanding that people liked their stuff because it was different from the Disney-safe nuke that dropped in the west is incomprehensible
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>>290387966
The people who say that Japan is just the west but 10-15 years behind really were onto something. They're just now jumping onto the trends that emerged in 2015-2016 that ended up grenading the west's media hegemony forever.
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>>290384262
It was edgeshit
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>>290384174
No one gives a shit about TH3
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>>290384935
>>290385153
>palette swaps
Trash
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It's very simple.
Levi and Fate scissoring for 13 episodes.
Nanoha can come too for some hot palette swap clone 3p action.
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Signum didn't job so this is better than Force
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>>290386807
Imagine if a cute girl fired a rocket launcher directly at your face
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>>290391010
They should have merged into Green Fate here.
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>>290390929
Levi is NOT a palette swap. She is, in fact, the superior, SPORTY Fate who is ASSERTIVE (sexually) and most of all, PATENTLY CRAZY
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>>290390868
>It was edgeshit
And this isn't? BetrayerS had way more impact with its edge than Gun Blaze "Show a happy family with its cat so you can kill it to show terrorism is BAD"
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>>290362994
Then why is only the anime available in English?
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>>290391470
Then why did she lose to Fate?
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>>290391501
Ooc-induced edge is worse than GBV's
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>>290392048
GBV has been nothing but ooc induced edge. Remember the 1:1 expy of Nemesis in the first episode?
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>>290392153
That's not what "ooc" means
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>>290392008
Just woke up from a 200 year long nap, also didn't have a caring Mommy to feed her health kits.

In the games she only stops fighting because Arf gives her candy.
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>>290366343
Because, despite it being clear from the marketing that Shiina and Towa were always supposed to fight, the characters and story were written in a way where a conflict between them could never begin naturally. Neither Shiina nor Towa have strong feelings about each other's alter egos or their groups' activities. Shiina doesn't see Towa's Diaboli murder spree as something she needs to intervene in and Towa doesn't hold a grudge against fire Diaboli specifically that would prevent her from allying with another known stable Diaboli.
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>>290392183
Arf is the backbone of the franchise and she deserves more credit.
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>>290383968
They've already killed all but one of the big aliens. At least, that's what they told us. We were never shown a single frame of them actually fighting one.
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>>290392180
Yes, that is what ooc means.
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The Virgin Out Of Character vs The Chad Out Of Context
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>>290392219
Especially her tits, bring back Arf's tits
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if this doesnt end in at least a towa/shina naked hug in space then we endured 12 episodes of mediocrity for nothing
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>>290393001
We don't even get naked transformations anymore.
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BYE FOREVER SHIINA
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This marmot will return and save the season by binding the gays together until they kiss it out.
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>>290392219
I miss Arf too.

>>290393778
Sounds like a plan.
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>>290392383
Resident Evil monsters are cooler than retarded heel turns
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>>290393939
Arf was just a freeloader eating Fate's mana and making her lose easily winnable fights
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>>290370767
First, her battle costume look lame
not erotic at all
it should have enhanced her sexy body
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>>290395502
>fully clothed promotional art
This shit is just sad
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>>290395506
I am a Nanoha sleeper. I used to be a Fate sleeper but now I'm a fatfuck and it would kill me.
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>>290395506
>go home after long hours of work
>see this
what do?
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>>290396032
Shoot heroin and sit on Rein by mistake.
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>>290396032
Spoon Nanoha. She looks like she'd be the most suitable girl to hold tonight.
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>>290396032
kick the bitches out of my bed
cuddle with rein
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>>290396125
Was just about to say the same thing almost word for word
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>>290396032
Fuck Hayate
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>>290395502
>still no good shiina x towa promo yet
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>>290396032
Sniff Rein



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