Chapter 418: Hypothetical, Togashi's troupe TL
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>>290338067Author's comment>In chapter 415, page 404, second panel, '15 minutes ago' was left out. Waaaaaaaaaah!
>>290338033Why did Tse make that joke to Theta when his body could not have been in the coffin at that time?
>>290337942There's something really funny about Tse doing all this while the speech is going on, Togashi's still got it
>>290338235His illusory corpse was in the coffin since he had not released zetsu yet.
>>290337807Motherfucker, this ability is soooooo broken
>>290338446not really
>>290338399If he had not released zetsu how can Slakov read his willThings don't add up here and I'm starting to believe that Togashi messed up
>>290338399he released zetsu to allow his will be to read.
>>290337807What a prankster.
>>290338488Honestly just being able to see 10 seconds in the future would be a broken ability in the first place. Everything else is just bonus
>>290338488In close cuarters combat scenarios this ability is pretty damn broken and dangerous.
Nobunaga is a pretty good match for TseTse has to release Zetsu to "save" whatever action he performed, and Nobu would cut him as soon as his zetsu is released
>>290338490I might be retarded but doesn't this imply that he can write the will for Salkov to see?
>>290338756He can write the will for sure The question is, can Salkov see the will that Tse wrote while still under the illusion?When Tse threw the bottle at Slakov he didn't notice it, so why would he notice the written will?
>>290338830It didn't work with the bottle because it would count as using the object to injure someone I guess
>>290337866>O God>I'm so thankful for me THIS MOTHERFUCKER
>>290338756Based on this, during zetsu he can interact with anything that ISNT potentially influenced by another persons actions or physically on an individual.
>>290338855That would mean that whenever Tse moves objects around while people are under the illusion, they see objects moving by themselves floating in the akr? I really don't think that's what has been described in this chapter
>>290338961But he can create things that didnt exist before the zetsu as they have no way to conflict with someone elses actions
Pitou sex
>>290338974Obviously anything Tse interacts with directly cannot be seen otherwise they would see an invisible man walking everywhere from his clothes, but I think he can alter the will and once he stops writing it, it becomes visible to everyone?Anyway this is pretty confusing (like every chapter involving his ability)
This is such a comfy chapter bros...reading it makes me feel like the good times never ended
>>290338046>>290338067Cute couple built for cute murder suicide!
Lmao at all the shittubers trying to make clickbait thumbnails about how Tse was revealed to be OP when he was heavily nerfed
>>290337807What i still don't understand is what decides which action the illusion of the prince will take. No matter how hard he wants to do something the illusion won't do it, so what will be the actual script he follows? Does the ability know the difference between wanting to do something and pretending to want to do something? Agh
>>290339380Schorindger's bullshit, it's whatever the observer(s) honestly believe would make sense for him to do based on his previous actions/the knowledge they possess of him.
>>290339402By the observer you mean the nen beast or all the people? Because if the latter, there would be a nonsensical overlap of different illusions for every observer, based on their perception of the prince's nature
Togashi really likes drawing Tserriednich...
Since Tse can basically pause the world/time to see 10 seconds into future in an instant would it be possible to make time stopping ability with enough restrictions?
Based on this explanation it seems Tserriednich could assassinate a few princes by sneaking poison into their food while his ability was active then cancelling it after the poison had sufficiently spread in their bodies so that they would immediately die of organ failure without noticing any symptoms of the poisoning.
>>290338756Tse talks is really speaking on this aspect when he talks about getting the water bottle. In the last chapter does Tse not state to salkov that in his will no one is to look inside the coffin? He’s basically saying he can still go change the will because salkov hasn’t interacted with it yet. But if he didn’t state that previously to Salkov, everyone would have no reason to just go open the coffin.
>>290337910I may have missed some things here. Wouldn't the blood on Benjamin's shoes disappear once he leaves the nen beast's radius and he would definitely notice immediately after leaving?He probably changed it in the same room to avoid evidence.... but he said he didn't mind if Salkov testified against him.
>Theta, because of you teaching me Nen, I have discovered a whole new part of the world that has completely altered my understanding of life>I no longer wish to be King, I only want to develop my abilities and meet other Nen users with interesting abilities of their own>As thanks, I'm going to free you from the effects of my GSB>Anyways, are you like, free on Saturday? I have tickets to a premier league match...The good ending
>>290339380I think it shows what he would have done if he didn't see the vision so that Tserriednich is going to need to mentally prepare himself to some inadvisable stuff if he doesn't see the vision in order to use his ability's information gathering aspect.
>>290337783The thing I dont like about this chapter is theres a lot of exposition dump but not a lot of characterization. How can you waste so many pages and words and still not show off the characters personality in any way. This would look terrible adapted to anime because it would literally just be 20 minutes of Tse THINKING.
>>290339474Once he has the correct timing he can just stab/shot them at 10.01 seconds then re enter zetsu and wa la
Goreinu cool
>>290339533I completely disagree
This ability raises so many questions. If you use this ability moments before somebody is about to grab a knife to kill another person and you take that knife instead what happens then? Does the person who was destined to die dies anyway or is under the illusion of being dead? Does that include going to afterlife in that illusion or post mortem nen fuckery? Truly King Crimson level of confusion all over again.
If Tserriednich had ONE upgrade to give his ability, which would be the best?1) Can set how his fake self acts and talks in the 10 seconds of advance he has the moment he close his eyes (but not further than that).2) Can interact freely with the objects held or carried by people in the illusion (weapons in their hand, stuff in their pockets) but still not the people themselves.3) Gets one charge. Can spend this charge to interact with one person in the illusion (like assassinating someone). It takes 12 hours to get the charge back.4) Infinite range for the illusion.
>>290337910"Tserriednich is a tsundere about his brother" is to me a far weirder development than "Tserriednich wants to get pegged by Theta". Do you think he had the army clean up one of his murders as a joke?
>>290339474Better yet: In the illusion, put your gun on the head of a prince. Release illusion, immediately pull the trigger, close your eyes and go back to zetsu to activate the illusion again.
>>290339520No punishment for his crimes? That's the worst possible ending. He should die a slow, humiliating, and gruesome death - that would be a good ending.
>>290339490>everyone would have no reason to just go open the coffinhave we been reading the same manga? how fucking stupid can you people be? between you and the other motherfucker that thinks Togashi messeed up because he can't understand an ability that received 3 chapters of explanation I'm losing IQ points just by reading your posts. Seriously go back to Dragon Ball
>>290339533>but not a lot of characterizationThis chapter was mostly characterization I don't know how you can see Tserri bitching about Benjamin not focusing on him more and taking the time to torture him and thanking God for himself and think this chapter was in lacking in characterization
>>290337966>Tse rationally viewing the situation and taking Salkov's sideMy Prince is such a kind, gentle soul...
>>290339533It kinda tells some stuff, showing that Tse's capability to analize is quite at a high level for a novice, that he's not a simple talented psyco but also a smart person and that he has an inclination for taking an indirect path toward victory instead of trying to go for the fastest way to kill his opponents. It's also heavily suggested that Theta can see him. Most likely because she came from another room outside of his ability's range. This also hints at a flaw in the prince, he's currently overwhelmed and his already inflated ego got even bigger, this will lead somewhere along the story to a mistake in overestimating his own skills.
>>290339474This is where the ability gets funny if you ask me. >>290339541He could in theory just be sitting in a room, go into zetsu activate bombs in front of people, deactivate his ability, the bombs would appear and kill whoever they were in front of and that’s it. Disguise the items as something else say “put that pear in the corner of the room” and they walk over to the bomb, you run activate it go back to you spot and the bomb explodes. No one suspects you at all
>>290339690You are obviously lacking in reading skills if you don't think there are inconsistencies in the way the ability was described to work in this chapter
>>290339896the irony
>read Halkenburg chapter>want Halkenburg to win>read Benjamin chapter>want Benjamin to win>read Tserriednich chapter>want Tserriednich to winI am going to get ungodly pissed if Togashi bites it before we see the end of them
>>290339474He can't manipulate objects to hurt people while using his ability.
>>290339732I think she was able to hear him.When he was compelling salkov he never used his name could have something to do with that.It’s most likely tho that she is already under the “influence” of Tse GSB
>>290339610And before anyone jumps at me with "Nen Beast can replicate tools from nen if needed for such stuff" theory then I have another dilemma for you. If you pick up the TSK vial before soldier manages to put it into his shoe, can you use this method to infinitely dupe the TSK vials or its effects?
>>290339930Don't worry Naoko will take over the art if he were to die.
>>290339690You don't have to be an ass about it, please explain to us exactly what happened if you understand Tserriednich's ability perfectly.
>>290339496He wiped them clean before leaving
>>290339610By all logic, everyone would see an illusion of the murder happening, but it wouldn't be real. The victim itself should black out, but not be dead or activate any post mortem bullshit. The moment the ability is stopped, everything goes to normal at once.
>>290337783>BLAH BLAH BLAHThis millenials ass manga is really just the author smelling his own smells as he revels in his own intelligence, thinking doing these long ass walls of text is smart writing.>I LIKE TOMATO.>After extensive testing of my personal preferences... the rules of my tomato affinity that I’ve established for certain are:>1.) I cannot change the fundamental nature of the tomato itself in any scenario I have already tasted. (Its acidity, water content, and inherent tomato-ness cannot be altered.) As this preference plays out, the tomato remains fixed like a wax model of pure tomato essence, down to the seeds and the slightly bitter green shoulder. I can’t even pull cheap tricks like pretending it’s a strawberry or sneaking non-tomato vegetables into the same bite.>2.) I can, however, change the location or state of the seasoning. I cannot use the seasoning to directly injure someone or scribble messages on the tomato as a prank. (I also can’t take seasoning that another person already has, but I can snatch seasoning that they were just about to apply.) And when I do, they continue acting under the impression that they themselves “seasoned” it.>Or, "With the tomato already in my mouth, start chewing." "Enter salt and then close my lips...">Whichever it is… my enjoyment will activate.>Some time before the first bite…>Up to ten seconds of pure tomato potential…!!! And I can see a vision…>The ephemeral ten seconds of seasoning possibility I had just considered start to play out on the actual tomato.>If I open my mouth right after the ephemeral ten seconds… an ephemeral ten seconds that the people around me perceive as nothing more than a blink…!!! These ten seconds I’m tasting are only an instant in the real meal!!!>After testing this… the rules of my ability that I’ve established for certain are: I like tomato. With seasoning.Someone should tell Togashi to learn how SHUT UP.
>>290340219lol shameful
>>290340252...but enough about Jujutsi Kaisen
>>290340301I stand by what I said.Someone should tell Togashi to SHUT THE FUCK UP! It's so sad that this manga got reduced to this because the first half up until Chimera Ant was really good.
Togashi should stop coming up with these convoluted plots if they're going to be full of plotholes. It comes off as very tryhard.
>>290339690You might be schizo reading broIf Salkov didn’t have the will that said this then down the line someone would open the coffin and see that Tse isn’t there before he could enact whatever plan. Don’t get mad at me because your retard brain can read these 3 chapters over and over and still not know what’s going on. It’s not my fault you are of lesser intellect. Work on yourself
Who will be Tse's Judas?
>>290340500theta
>>290340081>>290339373the effect he had on the objects he used during his reality come to actual reality instantly as his actions passed those 10 seconds of spoiler, remember it's not a timefreeze, it's a spoiler with a freebie on objects, by all means the clock is still ticking.so, if you could see it from the outside the will either appeared in its entirently in one go or skit by skit, the clothes disappeared in one go from the drawer and the guns got teleported in the coffin.>>290337982 this is the page where he fucks himself over, specifically the panel where the bullets drop to the ground. See how Theta is looking down when she's being walked in, her sight aligns perfectly with the panel of the bullets above her. She saw those bullets, maybe straight up appearing out of thin air, she knows.>>290338046 she isn't looking at him, she didn't hear him or perceive him, she guessed correctly from where he shot.Still not convinced? see this page. >>290337836He used a panel to make sure you see the bottle of water dropping to the ground, it's to set up Tse making the same mistake twice. Why would he make such a retarded mistake about leaving evidence? because it's perfectly in line with his character of dismissing trash.
What would your plan be if you were reincarnated into the world of HxH at around the same time Gon was born?
>>290339533Are we reading the same manga? There was a shit ton of characterization for Tserri in this chapter, how he perceives people, his plans for the future, and so on. Talking to another person isn't the only way to characterize someone. Man I hate shonenpics so much.
>>290340552I kneel...
>>290340589marry tonpa
>>290339610>>290340120The person probably won't get a knife wound, but while under the illusion they might suffocate, or suffer from their heart stopping. Or maybe the illusion breaks down for that person and they escape it.
>>290340500BorksenShe will sell out Tse to Morena
>>290340612He's married to rookie crushing...
>>290340552So he's just opened the coffin and lumped a bazillion guns in the middle of the room and in 10 seconds everyone is going to see the coffin open and a bazillion guns in the middle of the room?Big brain sama I kneel.
>>290338974It's nen I ain't gotta explain shit
>>290340500Vantine, we already saw how he was more concerned about the propriety of the situation suggesting Salkov should have died to ever so slightly delay Tse's death. Alternatively Salkov will be his Judas, when Tse needs to have someone betray him to set something up.
>>290340476>everyone is suspicious of everyone>everyone knows everyone has/is developing abilities>everyone knows they might spawn abilities of deception given the situation they're in>all 3 points have been literally stated by the characters>Tse starts the chapter by saying that Nasubi wouldn't snitch on purpose but would have to if asked>wHY wOUld THey cHEck bRO?!you're so low iq it's actually sad >>290340611you fucking better, but to Togashi, the alignment of the bullets with Theta's eyes is the definition of show don't tell
>>290340699no need to open the coffin, just the bodybag, again he literally thanks sweet baby Jesus that the guys that were handling it fucked off here >>290337942You're illiterate and blind too.
>>290340552>her sight aligns perfectly with the panel of the bullets above her.No, it doesn't.>she isn't looking at himShe is looking at him in that panel. What are you talking about? In the previous page we also see him walking, so she can't be looking at where he shot the captain from.
>>290340810You mean the guys who brought the coffin? The guys who came in from outside the illusion like Theta-Chan (the actually relevant factoid)?He isn't worried at all about Benny boy's soldiers who are still there and actually have dialogue soon after seeing a big pile of guns?You stupid fucking cunt lmao.
>>290340500here's salkov in 416 swearing that he'll sell out tse because of what he did to theta. he wants to be interrogated
>>290340323This is an incredibly funny image because nothing like that never happens in the manga.
>>290340873ahahha you literally see him fiddle with the bodybag, how much of a mongoloid can you be? these are bad levels of denial little bro, get checked
>>290338974Maybe he wrote the will and then tossed it out of his ability's range
>>290340552That's a possible explanation but I don't find it very convincing especially since- nobody other than Theta seems to have noticed the "effect" of his actions - it raises the question of what is considered to be an "effect"Plus - why didn't Salkov notice the effect of the bottle hitting him? Because he was planning to interact with the bottle? But he also was meant to interact with the will, so whatever applies to the water bottle should apply to the will as well
....how is he going to hide his gigantic horse monster nen beast while walking around the ship?
>>290340901Yes?Right before he dumps an armoury on the ground?But then again Togashi-san expects us to know about magically appearing stockpiles of weaponry being a normal occurance in Kakin and nothing for Benny's Bumbro Brigade to concern themselves with?How do retards like you even use the internet? Do you have an assistant?
>>290341022moron those are the weapons Tse guards dropped before Ben's boys walked in, Jesus Christ you're actually mentally handicapped.Is this an LLM trying to figure out HxH?
>>290338014>>290338033I wonder what his plans on tier 2 are.
>>290341022>Right before he dumps an armoury on the ground?Do you happen to enjoy One Piece by any chance?
>>290337783>I can't change the state of anyone>I can't directly injure someone>They continue acting under the impressionThese are all very vague lol. What if he placed a spike or bomb under ben's foot just as he was about to stomp his face? Would ben be damaged by it or not?
Nobody is asking the most important question hereCan you have sex with people while they are under illusion?
>>290341308>I can't directly injure someoneLearn to read, rapist.
>>290340985The horse probably has the sense to hide.
>>290341361Loving sex is not rape tho
>>290338046I am really loving this page.
>>290341308It seems like everyone is stone solid while in the illusion
>>290341308He can't even put something in someone's pocket. He probably can't even grope people that are under the illusion.
>>290337920>>290337942The only way I can rationalize Tserri's will thing is:>the panel shows Tserri writing his will>at the same time, Salkov and the guards are carrying his body bag to the coffin>Tserri finishes writing his will, cancels Zetsu, puts the will on his desk, and activates his ability quickly>Salkov goes to fetch the will from the desk>"Why didn't Tserri write the will beforehand?"I think it has to do with him expecting a different scenario aside from Benjamin blasting him instantly. Maybe he would've prepared different versions of his will depending on the situation.But even with this explanation, there's a slight problem. Since he cancelled Zetsu, his first illusion should've stopped. After activating his ability again, it shouldn't have the mangled corpse because it's a different illusion from before. That doesn't seem to be the case, considering he believes Theta will still see his mangled corpse. >>290338033Maybe his illusion is stronger than expected.
>>290340985He is going to be zetsu hopping from Point to point like solid snek hiding in a box. Hardly anyone will see him
>chrollo and the troupe are strong despite not being properly trained by a nen master>meruem was strong strong despite not being properly trained by a nen master>tse is strong despite not being properly trained by a nen master
>>290341565the coffin needs to be closed and no one can be holding it for the changeover to work, right? the coffin needs to be in this panel's position before salkov goes to fetch the will from tserri's room/before tserri cancels/restarts zetsu.
One Piece is better than your shitty manga
>>290341663Stop asking questions and get back to your Ten practice.
>>290341608this sounds funny so ok, I'll take it
>>290341663machi had a master
I wonder if his aura reserve for parallel future drains faster if there are more people influenced by the ability. Also, it's gonna be interesting to see how it will develop. More range, 10 second extension or an ability to interact with humans during it is my guess.
>>290341687You're right, and I didn't add that intentionally because that's to be expected. Once Tserri saw that they had closed the coffin, he cancelled his Zetsu and quickly put the will down before Salkov entered the room. But it feels like there's a panel missing somewhere in the transition.
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>>290341720It finally happened
>>290341845thats part of why i think >>290340552 must be onto something. if the dropping of the bullets and the bottle was unnecessary to show, there may have been enough space to show the coffin being set down/zetsu being undone. but because the latter is easily derived from slightly thinking about it but >>290340552 requires a bit more of a leap, it was more necessary to show the illusion objects dropping to the floor to support the leap-deduction.
>>290339668This isn't a moralfaggotry manga where people who commit crimes must get punished for them, son.
>>290341861It would be really funny if the troupe (read: jobunaga) bumps into him and thinks he's Hisoka in hiding
>>290342030Who cares? That's irrelevant to whether or not he should be punished for his crimes.
>>290337783Still prefer this TL
>>290337783i still support the true king even if he got nerfed this chapter
>>290340762Chrollo Hui Guo Rou
>>290341936The focus on the objects on the ground could just be a setup for the ongoing investigation about how his powers work, once he shut off zetsu and the objects are visible to everyone
>>290337910deep down you just know Tserri likes big ben
>>290342067Nobunaga would cut him as soon as he breaks out of Zetsu
>>290341936I forgot to add one thing: Tse tapes on the floor to remember his position, to me it's Togashi telling you to look down
>>290341663>>chrollo and the troupe are strong despite not being properly trained by a nen masterMeteor City at this point had an entrenched class of Elders that were all experienced hunters who learned how to use Nen to protect the city. The old Priest who was in charge of the Church Chrollo and his friends loved to hang out in was planning on introducing Chrollo to the other elders so they can start his Nen training, because he seemed promising>>meruem was strong strong despite not being properly trained by a nen masterMeruem had the collective aura of thousands of people packed in to his body and only knew the absolute basics of Nen>>tse is strong despite not being properly trained by a nen masterYeah this one is bullshit
>>290339467He isn't manipulating time at all, he is predicting the next 10 seconds inside a limited space. It is a foresight ability with a short range.The other part of his ability only affects the perception of the people under the effect of his ability activation range, and only for people and objects that they perceived during the 10 seconds activation period.It is a very far cry from actual time manipulation. I now understand how this ability is nothing like King Crimson's and vastly more limited.
>>290340985Nen beasts can decide to hide on their own if they don't want to be seen or analyzed, like Tubeppa's beast. They're sentient and can even take decisions against their host's will, like Halkenburg's beast stopping him from killing himself, or Momoze's beast going on a rampage on its own volition.
>>290341508A peck on the lips should be fine then.
>>290342414I meant the 10 seconds part, for 10 seconds the time flows only for Tseri inside his premonition from the moment he closes his eyes to the moment the vision ends. How does that looks like for other people within or outside his range? The 10 seconds vision part seems to have unlimited range as it happens in the instant.
>>290341224Benjie would either die or his mutilated legless body would be on the ground, still talking like nothing happened. Others in the illusion would continue seeing him walking around the room. Only when the illusion stops would al of this disappear to reveal to all (including Benjie himself) that Benji is now either dead or lying on the ground with no legs.At least that's my guess.
>>290341565I think it's just that as long as you're not breaking the illusion, everything is fine, so if you write a paper while in another room where no one can see you, it's okay, people will be able to see the writings afterwards. If you were trying to do it before them, they would see the paper remain blank and the pen remain still on the side.
Tse has become a fashion icon
>>290342627Cuuuuuute!!
>>290342568Then why didn't the bullets work on that guy? How is a bullet different from a bomb?
>>290342627succ is tyson irl it's a compliment
>>290342706Because Tse is actively pulling the trigger.Second hypothesis, the bomb would explode but the explosion would leave everyone unharmed, even their clothes, it would just destroy stuff around the room but the people in the illusions wouldn't see it as destroyed (like the bottle of water).I think that the second hypothesis is more likely actually. It's like the people under the illusion are kind of granted complete invulnerability during the 10 seconds.
>>290342627is that...
>>290342282he thought they had a Goku-Vegeta rivalry going on but nope, he meant nothing to Benjamin
So Tse can basically:>activate Zetsu>walk towards the range limit of his ability>ability deactivates>rinse and repeatAnd effectively teleport short distances? Is this how he plans to avoid surveillance?
>>290342808Can you use the illusion to let's say safely drop people from heights then? Imagine the situation where you have the guy standing on the bridge, you fire the ability and blow a bomb on the bridge collapsing it in the process. Would the guy on the bridge even notice that He's falling to his "death"? Would he survive the fall?
Why is nobody discussing the chapter? Is it shit?
>>290342541It's range for his premonition is exactly that, 10 seconds in the future while he has his eyes closed.I think it is because the nen beast that he summons for his ability is the actual point of view for his foresight so it will constantly see what is in front of it 10 seconds forwarded while Tse is in premonition mode, then it will force everyone in it's line of sight to see the events of that premonition play out exactly like it saw them while Tse alone isn't affected.
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Why are people here ignoring the >it takes 3 seconds to go into zetsu
The horse is going to get him in trouble
>>290343097I was about to bring that up actually
Nothing happened: the chapter
This is the perfect cuck ability. Just activate it when you are about to have sex and watch from cuck chair as your gf is being railed by imaginary you
Tse was very moe this chapter
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>>290343170Nobu would say that
Tserri's horse will go find Theta on its own
>>290343170based beyond belief
>>290342906Exiting and re-entering zetsu isn't that simple.Tse is grinding his zetsu activation speed so hard because of exactly that.The range of his ability is stationary because it depends on the placement of his nen beast, so to switch his premonition place he needs to do it all over again. And from an observer's point of view he would "teleport" once and then walk normally from there on as soon as they are outside the ability's range.
>>290341224Not in the illusion, but his leg would appear blown off right as it ends
>>290343170If Theta were a man we would be getting so much creative King Crimson porn. It's a shame that only gayshit gets a stable supply of lewds.
>>290343294Its possible, Gon and Killua were able to ikaruga style flicker between Ten and Zetsu
>>290343397That fails to explain why the bullets didn't work.
>>290343170Tserriednich would actually do this btw just so he can see Theta's whole body as she writhes
I'm rereading through the official Viz manga, why is it so censored during the CA arc?
>>290342917I think we'll never have the answer because Togashi probably didn't think of such edge cases and thus they won't ever be relevant narratively. Tse won't try to lead someone towards a pit or something during an illusion. We'll have to make up our own headcanon to patch the holes, though I wouldn't call them holes as long as they 're not even featured in the story.
>>2903396113 would be stupidly overpowered
>>290342917If the bomb was already set up before the ability was activated then I don't see why not.
Tserri's disguise reminded me of that Mr. Bean meme where he's dressed as a surgeon and the patient being operated realizes who he is. Imagine something like that but with Benjamin
>>290343294The apex of his skill will bloom when he can istantly go into zetsu and release it in a blink, he will basically have a permanent 10s sharingan
So Tserri is using the ability while walking around and out of range and seemingly forever? I don't understand. I am dumb
>>290337783how fucked is kurapika? the only way he can defeat him is if for some insane reasons dude becomes a spider.
>>290343170finally, an argument for why chrollo would want to steal it
>>290344238tserri's ability isn't really an offensive ability. it's purely defensive. even if he ends the illusion and appears behind pika to shoot him in the back of the head pika will react in time. it will just be a stalemate
>>290342510They can't hide from other nen users, don't they?
>>290343397desu I still don't get rebase until nowso branch blue becomes the first commit after main? the 2nd commit is branch green while the last commit is branch pink?
Theta and Tserriednich feels like the kind of pairing that was exclusively written for womenI wonder if it'll become popular if the succession war gets ever adapted, or if nobody would care because the only type of woman who watches HxH are fujos.
>>290343294what if his nen beast doesn't move
>>290344238Kurapika will use his mastery of nenology to surmise that Tse's ability has a maximum range, then he'll just have Bill jump Tse outside of it.
>>290344276shut the frick up leorio
>>290344260Chrollo can't steal nen beast ability
>>290337807I still prefer Sticky Fingers.
Has there ever been a character who screwed with future sight by using an illusion that retroactively affects the future sight user because they "saw" the illusion in the future?
>>290344630King Crimson?
>>290344381No, that pairing is Borksen and Morena. That relationship is made for leftie tumblr girls
Tserriednich is a sub forced to take on tje role of the murderous sadist because of his economic status and ego. Really, he just wants to be put in his place, despite how he acts sometimes. In short, Prince Tserriednich is Brat
>>290344673it's yuri shit, meaning the actual audience is just trooners
>>290344673yuri is for men/trannies thoughever
So what would happen if someone where to shoot Tserriednich from outside his ability range?>A) Tserri would see the future of him being suddenly shoot, but wouldn't be able to change his fate because his shooter isn't inside his range to change his perception of Tserri's movements>B) He would be able to avoid the shoot but the shooter would perceive a Tserri being shoot while another one moving out of the way at the same time>C) Tserri would just try to move out of the way, the shooter would see no illusion at all and realign his shoot and kill Tserri anyway
>>290338046Damn he's down hard for someone who tried to kill him just like 4 days ago
>>290338046Theta is so beautifull.
>>290344741She is a shorty slavic looking blonde girl, I'd be down bad for her no matter what too.
Hold on, what happened to the Theta's face scar?
>>290341738No nen beast while in Zetsu, that's why Cammy's has barely shown up
>>290344829the horse and its ability stop working when tserri is in zetsu
>>290344829She is hiding it with make-up so nobody will notice I think.Would need to check the chapter again but I think Salkov suggested it.
is there anything to talk about from this chapter outside of it confirming some theories about the ability? This might be the first chapter this arc where I wouldn't bother to spend multiple threads discussing it, even if it's a good chapter.
>>290344868Other than that we only got some insight of how Tserri perceives Ben and how he is actually fully in love with Theta, also that he secretly is a sub.So it was a chapter that was entirely about Tserri.
>>290344868time to shippost then
>>290344741And once she tells him the truth, that she tried to kill him because she thinks he's a one in a billion genius, so powerful, so talented, so dangerous, he's going to cum buckets.
>>290344900I think it's not that he's a sub, but more that Theta specifically is the one he'd like to dom him.
tse + theta for straight womenbork + morena for tranniesbisky + vergei for straight menmelody + kaiser for... ???ben + furykov for gay menfujos denied completely, basedgashi
>>290345012Kurapika Oito for?
>>290344298They can. Tubeppa's beast literally hid itself from Benjamin's guard. They just have to stop feeding on their host's aura and they disappear.
Tubeppa's beast eats science, quote me on thissource: it came to me in a dream
>>290345012i ship Tse with Carmelliathey're both batshit insane and could bound by torturing their subjects they're also not fully blood related
>>290345012they have illumi and hisoka with their engagement ring joke though and togashi will probably fujobait with these two again
>>290345155true i forgot about this actually, he's truly giving everyone something
>>290345012Fugetsu + Nencho for people of refined tastes
>>290345144tserredinich and camilla haven't even had an interaction or thought about each other. That kind of sticks out to me.
>>290345012Technically Ging and Pariston are in this arc and that pairing is quite popular among fujos. 12 years since their last appearance and they still get new art regularly.
Who hurt him
>>290345012>tse + theta for straight womenthats for straight men (incel chud/me)
>>290344630That's kind of what Aizen does to Yhwach.
>>290345201Based
>seconds>position>2 years old>that time>secondsHOLY KINO
>>290345230that's a contradiction because you love bad boys then
>>290345524I'm going to dress like this from now on
>>290344900Togashi is really challenging himself with Tserriednich. The limits on his ability and his attraction to someone who wants to kill him (and can be targeted by his GSB) are interesting concepts to play with. I read Level E decades ago and I never thought this prototype, or previous character archetype, would eventually get expanded on this much.
>>290345047That’s yuri
>>290345582not sure what you mean, i just relate with tserri thats all
I like tserri's new look at direction. I don't understand the endless "this guy mogged" "this guy lost" divisive garbage type posting with every chapter. Is it zoomer culture? "What killed the hype" that type of stuff. I feel unmoved and blunt to 90% of the output of posters ittThis started getting really bad when the chrollo/hisoka fight took place. It was truly bad and hasn't recovered since
>>290344680"Power bottom" The relationship is fundamentally unequal and theta will literally never be able to "dom" tserri even if he's begging for it, which he never will.
>>290345661>What killed the hypeThats a single mentally ill retard that has been posting that shit for years
>>290345618i'd be disappointing in Togashi if he truly cares about Theta it'd just be a repeat of Meruem i hope he remains rotten til the bitter end
Hisoka lost and got raped.
>>290345767The thing about the Theta x Tserriednich is, like this anon >>290345715said. It is fundamentally unequal. Mereum was a child. Tserriednich and Theta are both fully fledged adults. Theta thought Tserreidnich was a disappointing evil man before he learned nen.She wants to, and tried to, murder him. Even if she didn't, Tserriednich's Guardian spirit beast is a horrid lie detector and stare contest winner.The only ways this can end up in a successful relationship while keeping their characters in mind is:>Theta succumbs to despair and says "fuck it" and sticks with tserriednich>Tserriednich becomes a drastically better person , proves this to Theta, and she decides not to kill him.
>>290338974No they don't see the object. They won't notice the object moved until after Tse releases the illusion
>>290345880>>Tserriednich becomes a drastically better person , proves this to Theta, and she decides not to kill him.this is exactly what i don't wantevens strangulation by Benjamin's roidtarded hands would be better than this
>>290339474There could be a doujin where Tse interacts with women while they are under the illusion
>>290334700She can't see him, she just happened to turn and look directly at where he really is, which spooked him cause he likes her.
>>290345880Theta is essentially being blackmailed/coerced without tse knowing, by tse himself. She constantly risks becoming a slave simply by existing close to him. He's infatuated because he feels invincible. He's supremely arrogant and egocentric to an extreme. His thought processes do not make sense to regular humans. Hence, him having a traditional relation with the opposite gender is off the table.
>>290338067Thanks OP.
>>290343170Trvke
>>290346012Yea, i imagine tserriendichs love will be reflected in some form of boundary pushing harassment, like mental rape. I don't think he wants to or will try to kill her though.
>>290345963Tse does not have it in him to change in any way whatsoever. That's also what's making his nen so fucking strong and strange. His very disturbed personality and outlook on life. "Theta... why..?" (A statement thought up by the utterly deranged)
>>290346068This is a man that skins women alive. He's gonna continue existing in lala-land where he likes theta on a personal level and can even take her on dates while her life will continue to be a living hell with him none the wiser
>>290345963I dont think that will happen. The thing about it...Theta isnt even being treated as a priority by Tsen. I don't think this connection is window dressing but i don't expect it to be a major defining aspect of his character or arc, but maybe i'm wrong.I mean, really, what can he do? if he meets with Theta again.>Oh...you want to kill me Theta...hehe, you think I'm evil...well, i like you.>But you're evil and can't be allowed to live.>Shit
>>290345524Don't show up to school tomorrow kid
Guys, Togashi is setting up a clusterfuck battle between Tse and Kurapika. I just know it will be kino. It will be like Gojo vs Sukuna.
>>290346189I want to see a group battle or a 1v1v1..etc style battle
Who do you guys think that will be the first spider Kurapika will run into?
>>290346294I'm not sure. Nobunaga has the biggest running thread with kurapika (besides chrollo because parallels). Nobunaga is the only one who said "Ill never forget the chain dude! I'll kill him". I expect them to have a confrontation
Why do some people like to treat this saga like the bonus? This saga will potentially close the open threads from kurapika, Troupe, Hisoka. I could never view the election as a true ending because of that.
>>290337807how can salkov ever recover from this?
>>290346294Chrollo. Kurapika can't leave 1014 during special martial law, and he wouldn't anyway because his job is to protect Oito and 'Woble'. So they'll have to come to him, and at present only one Spider is actively climbing to tier 1.
>>290346294chrollo
>>290337807Without the last panel this whole page is pretty funny out of context
>>290344342Think of it this way>Merge: joins paths together. It creates a new merge commit and you may need to resolve conflicts>Rebase: rewrites history. It moves your entire branch so it begins on top of the newest commitSo Tse's ability is Merge. In this analogy, he creates an off branch the moment he enters Zetsu. The main timeline continues in this "illusion" state, while Tse's does his own thing on his branch. When he deactivates Zetsu, a new commit is create to join both paths. Since Tse is the author, he is the one to determine how to solve the merge conflicts. In a sense, he "removes" the conflicts created by the illusions on the main timeline, and picks his own version of the events. Thus, I believe the moment he deactivates Zetsu, the guns will appear inside the coffin, the blood on the floor will vanish, etc
>>290341845I am so confused. In my understanding theres no way Tse can undo zetsu just to start it again without being seen no? Since if he starts a new zetsu chain there will be a new ''illusion'' tse body instead of the headsplattered "illusion" body thats inside the coffin now.
>>290344238Kurapika can tank Uvogin with his scarley eyes. All he has to do is protect his whole body until he can sense Tse again. He lacks offensive power. Remember he only learned zetsu.
>>290337836salkovbros...
Just started learning Nen, any tips for developing hatsu?
>>290346724Start licking gorillas
>>290346724You should focus on perfecting your Ten first
>>290346724Practice your Ren, Ten, and Zetsu.
>>290346724Just focus on Zetsu, worked for me
>>290338014What will happen to the illusory guns that are actually in the coffin when they take them out of the nen space? Furthermore what would happen if someone shot someone else with an illusory gun?
I thought I understood Tse’s ability but now I don’t. Probably better to go with the flow and not think too hard
>>290338046theta is beyond's daughter so she and tsierrednich are siblings
>>290344788We know, Tserry...
>>290346724It's funny that early on Wing lists Hatsu as one of the four basic groups of Nen for one to practice and develop in, when the rest of the series treats Hatsu as unique abilities that a person has to deliberately develop instead. Like Biscuit says Ko is a combo of Ten, Zetsu, Ren, Hatsu, and Gyo. I get the Gyo part (focus more aura in one spot), Zetsu (close off all the aura nodes elsewhere so your aura is only outputted in one spot), Ren (output more aura in that one spot), and Ten (keep the flaring aura from escaping), but where the fuck does Hatsu come into this?
>>290346907>Tserrendnich x Theta is wincest on topStop, I can only get so erect!
>>290345880There's a third option: Theta taming Tserrie. He doesn't become a better person, but he understands that if he wants to keep her around he needs to keep his darkness in check. If she knows that by staying with him she can tame the beast and steer him in the right direction, she will stay. This would fit with the S and M dynamic too.
>>290346724sell your ass to a nen teacher in the woods
>>290340881Nothing actually happened to Theta (except for the fact that she will become the slave wife of a psycopath). What is he so butthurt about?
>>290340323This is literally and unironically just hxh now thoughIts just meta power system autism and exposition dumps, the characters are machines that spew cold logic and feel absolutely nothing like a real human.
>>290347154This is only true for kurapika right now desu the other characters have enough characterisation
>>290346912It's a fan misconception as our hero Drake explained.https://voraciousdrake.wordpress.com/2026/07/12/about-the-semantic-debate-of-hatsu-vs-ability/
90% of misunderstandings come from shitty translations people read
>>290346912Hatsu is an expression of aura within a nen categoryAbility is a more compound term that can involve multiple Hatsu, but also other principlesGon's Rock for instance, is considered an ability, being named and all, but it is in essence just a Ko punchBasic emission training would be a HatsuKurapika's chains are made up of Conjuration Hatsu to materialize the chains, and additional Hatsu to add properties to themBungee Gum is notable as an ability, as it is in its basic essence just a single transmutation Hatsu, although it can have emission applied as well
>>290347154They don't feel like a real human to you because you're a retard with no internal thought. Your post reflects that.
>>290338046While theta is hot she doesnt even seem to be a S teir nen user, is trying to kill him all it really takes for tserriednich to fall in love with a girl?
>>290342627I can't tell if Togashi is shooting for Tse looking like the Unabomber or the Invisible Man with his disguise.
>>290346890Mark, my man
>>290347013Izunavi is so lucky
>>290338046On a second reading she is definitely looking at Tse's GSB here. Tse is getting trolled by his own spirit beast
>>290347207The thing with Kurapika is that he's duty oriented. He's giving it all for Oito not because she's the love of his life or a charismatic leader he's drawn to, or even her circumstances making him sympathize with her in particular, but because he promised to. He's not very personally involved in the conflict.
1. Theres no way Tse stopped zetsu and then put down the will and then re activated his ability, thats retarded2. Anyone other than Tse WILL face the actual consequence of the original "instant" 10 second future2a. That includes if Tse grabbed a gun that someone was about to reach for and kill someone with2b. The actual consequence of taking the gun will be that after the illusion ends, its Tse thats holding the gun
>>290347313>Invisible ManFuture Phantom Troupe member?They have already mummy,werewolf(had) and Frankenstein's monster.
>>290347285He already had feelings before the assassination attempt.
>>290347392That’s his one character trait the entire arc. Other than that he’s an exposition robot. Togashi could easily write some internal conflict between duty and getting the eyes or at least some fun interactions with the massive cast of this arc that expands his character
>>290347351it's incredible how he duped Kurapika to do this as part of his training:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvNUkqHni6o
>>290337783This guy just yaps and aura farms this entire arc, huh?
>>290347461Tse is gonna turn into pepe le pew
>>290347461poor tse going to die most gruesome death
>>290346724Go to a zoo then find the first gorilla you see, then smile at him. Really let him see all of your teeth when you smile
>>290347405>1. Theres no way Tse stopped zetsu and then put down the will and then re activated his ability, thats retarded Its not retarded. He needed to move to a room that was closer to the exit anyways.
>>290347458I'm gonna laugh if it turns out the troupe and Tse worked on killing the Kurta together, without no retarded conspiracy theories involved
>>290347536>real body dies in an explosion or whatever during zetsu ability>nen after death activates>he will remain there as a ghost for the rest of his life, unable to influence anything directly, just like those things that hung onto Fuu
>>290347465>Togashi could easily write some internal conflict between duty and getting the eyesThat would be retarded, Kurapika's not the type of a guy. Risking the life of a woman and a child he swore to protect for the eyes? He'd feel like a scum.>or at least some fun interactions with the massive cast of this arc that expands his characterThe thing is, he treats everything very seriously. That's why he's all cautious when interacting with all newly met people. There's really no room for anything non-robotic from him before he loses his cool which won't happen until he actually interacts with either Tse or Spiders.
>>290347285Now that you mention it if theta didn't activate his whatever the fuck is going on with him issues, he seems like the type of guy to only go after women who are top tier nen users.
>>290347013I'm already sucking and fucking my master.>>290346752>>290347551Good advice. Will follow up on this and come back later and let you guys know.It won't let me reply to everyone else but yes I am working on my fundies first, I just want to have a clear image for when I eventually move on to developing my ability.
>>290347758It’s not retarded hes already made massive sacrifices with his nen restrictions, sacrificing his lifespan, etc to get closer to avenging the kurtaAnyway you can argue that’s just how his character is, all that means is that he’s tremendously boring and poorly written
Kurapika needs to continue the kurta bloodline.
>>290338067He is going straight to room 1014 to consult Kurapika
>>290339520>I only want to develop my abilities and meet other Nen users with interesting abilities of their ownclose but he'll go to the Dark Continent and meet Don the Freak.
I wish i understood how ren and ken worked?Does it help has a defence?
I hope Tyson has a meltdown, breaks her own taboo and gets brutally squashed by her own nen beast
>>290347998Ren just releases aura as much as possible, Ken gives you finer control allowing you to do Ryu.
>>290348008this but tserriedbitch
>>290341720>Terpsicolalmao
>>290347998Ren is just increasing your overall aura output temporarily. Ken is actually Ren + Ten, basically like using Ten but expanded outward, yet still neatly contained rather than pouring out wildly (En is basically big Ken). Ken is more efficient than Ren, the same way that Ten is better than just letting your aura leak out like a normie
>>290347957By raping Shizuku and Machi.
>>290348065>>290348242But is Ren and Ken useful, or just for aura farming?Let’s say you don’t have a hatsu but want to play defence because you have big aura —would ken be good enough?
>>290343578anon is saying his ability has an AoE so the first person affected by the ability will see Tserrie walking normal after the 3rd activation if Tserriednich was walking in a straight line.
>>290347998Imagine aura like steam that constantly evaporates away from your body. Ten contains that steam into a film that surrounds your body. Ren causes your body to work harder and generate more steam. Ken is a combo of both, generating a lot more steam but containing it around your body.And yes, it works great for defense. But remember that Nen is both a numbers game and a circumstances game. If an enemy's attack deals 50 damage but your Ken blocks 30, you'll still take 20 damage, but that's way better than taking the full 50. Likewise if an enemy's attack would normally deal 50 damage but you tell them their wife is cheating on them and they slip up and their attack drops to 25, your Ken will fully block it.
>>290343578While true this took them weeks of focused training and Tserriednich doesn't have that luxury.
>>290343097he can grind it down to a 0.01 second
>>290348315Yes, if for example you saw someone go into Zetsu for no apparent reason, the best bet is to use Ken. You see Benjamin do this when he sees Camilla coming at him.
>>290348315Maintaining Ken is functionally an enhancement technique to strengthen and protect your body. Same way that using Ko is functionally an enhancement technique to strengthen a punch.
>>290348315It's definitely useful, could be the difference between your leg getting broken by a strike vs just getting a mild bruise. I can see why it's confusing because Enhancement is considered hatsu but basic applications of nen are basically enhancement
>>290337783Why is he explaining his power to himself?
>>290344212he wants to keep the illusion on his coffin for as long as possible (this means maibtaining Zetsu until the beast runs out of aura. about 4 hours.) and run away on an adventure to the lower tiers in Zetsu and a disguise.
>>290348426He is only theorizing and testing he is not 100% sure
>>290341861>Ah my door dasher at last, have you got those burgers?
Nothing has happened this batch! No progression!
>>290348315Ko is the best for defense if you can tell where an attack is coming from, but that leaves the rest of your body open. So Ken is the next best option if you can't tell where an attack is going to come from.>Let’s say you don’t have a hatsu but want to play defence because you have big auraYou're describing how Enhancers fight. They rarely come up with cheap tricks, they just boost their own power and unleash it. Both Uvogin and Gon fight this way.
>>290348426It's called thinking
>>290341765Fact
>>290345715>which he never will.wanna bet?
Trash arc, trash batch. This chapter had no progression just nen autism and explanation
>>290344829it's a nen scar. chapter is from a Zetsu Tse so he cannot see it.
>>290348359>Yes, if for example you saw someone go into Zetsu for no apparent reason, the best bet is to use Ken.It would be best to use gyo or en and avoid to approach carelessly. Ben used ken because Cummy pointed a gun at him, not because of zetsu.>>290348475Bodied that freak
>>290345144>they're also not fully blood relatedthere is a theory that they actually are
Every characters internal thought sounds the same, Togashi sucks at it
>>290348594This is true
Member when we were heading to the DC? I remember. Togashi got so side tracked he ruined us ever seeing the entire point of this entire thing.
>I don't care about anyone including myself, let's live just a little longer to exterminate humanity>oh my god it was your first kiss? I hope I wasn't too forceful we can take a break if you want>huh? you're really wasting another question on me? I've never been asked so many questions about my past *blushes*
Naruto clears
>>290348669GOMU GOMU NO......VERY HARD PUNCH!!!
2 more chapters of nothing happening, 2 years wait, 10 more chapters of nothing happening. The Togashi Triforce.
jaekel woke up
hi schizo
>>290347998Ren = opens your shokos and just releases auras from your entire body. Makes you tough. It's like steam coming out of your skin at high pressure and protecting you from damage / make you hit stronger.Ken = makes a sort of bubble around you that keep all the aura you're releasing in a small radius around you, instead of letting it go like steam that dissipate in the air. Makes you even tougher but the effort of both Ren (releasing aura) and Gyo (preventing that aura from going away) is way more exhausting.
You know you can write your thoughts all in one post instead of spacing them out and filling out several captchas?
>>290348660>the entire point of this entire thingAnon, reread the first chapter where the Dark Continent is introduced.
I'm sick of being led on, Togashi! I'm not your dog, I'm not your whore, I'm not your puppet. How about Togashi learn to SHUT UP and actually move the plot forward.
>>290348733>t.Gon
melty
jaekel has gone insane
>>290348932Hunterchads raped me.
Togashi thinks his fanbase is so retarded he has his characters think every thought instead of utilizing show don't tell, and it bogs down the entire arc. That's the biggest weakness of the arc.
Tserriednich's ability stops if his concentration gets interrupted by pain but I have to wonder if that means he can't use the ability while he's hurt (like Kastro being unable to summon his doppelganger after he got hit in the jaw.)
>>290348592It's more likely they're less blood related (Tse's real father being Nasubi's half-brother making them first half-cousins) or not at all (Tse's real father being Beyond) than them being full siblings (Duazul theory has no actual evidence).
>>290349019>Togashi thinks his fanbase is so retardedTruth.
>>290348932Wanting the plot to move along and reading HxH is much like wishing to stay dry and then throwing yourself in the ocean. Exposition is what's on offer, take it or leave it.
>>290349073Glad we can agree, if only "hunterchads" didn't have thumbs in their ears and Togashi's dick up their ass,
>>290348008Believe in dark tyson
take your meds
>>290349107So togashi can't utilize show don't tell and ruins his pacing with repetitive text...what a shame. I thought he was better than amateur writers.
>>290347998It feels like there should be some even more advanced techniques, but we only ever see them as part of hatsu. Like hiding En, but the only case of someone using En in a way that it isn't perceptible to others is Kortopi's copied objects that function as En for Kortopi so long as he has the original. There should also be an even more advanced for of Ryu, where you don't just shift where your aura is, you also conceal it with In, so that it looks like you have weak spots. Also applying your aura to an object similarly to Shu, but concealing that aura inside the object with Zetsu. I imagine though that reshaping your En is still considered to just be En, even if it's functionally applying the Gyo to En.
>>290349075>>290349089>schizo bringing clown and spider cucks togetherBeautiful.
>>290349027>Duazul theory has no actual evidencehe looks too good and doesn't look like Ben
>>290349171>anyone that doesn't agree with me must be a schizoThis is what happens when you live in an echo chamber, "hunterchads"
>>290347354He's in zetsu, the GSB won't show up...
>>290348660Omg le heckin DC where everything is so fucking strong 99% of the cast would die and the only way to explore it is basically colonize it over centuries
Hxh is a series that I once loved, the anime that is, now after finishing the anime I went into the manga and quickly realise a problem this series has had in the anime, but now, it was more apparent in the manga. The problem is the absurd amount of dialogue and monologue within it that makes it ridiculous, the author of HxH decided that every single character is going to have long monologue and dialogue, but it's even worse when the characters are just redshirts.The latest arc is especially guilty of this, basically, we as the reader are forced to see the point of view of literally every single character in this arc; the guards of the Prince's, the Prince's, guards of a Prince stalking another Prince, people associated to a Prince, people keeping an eye on another Prince, the Mafia Bosses, Hunters, the guards of the Mafia Bosses, the people from branch families, all of the underlings of the people from branch families as well, and we can go on and on — I wouldn't be surprised if we start getting the point of view from the trees, cats, dogs and basically everything else. You get the point. This is not interesting at all and it's just a chore to read. Sure you can say that he is amazing for giving redshirts their moments and making them feel important, but, truth be told, redshirts will always be redshirts! You can give them a few dialogues or give them a purpose later on without watering down the series quality by having them talk about stuff, we as the readers, are already aware of. I also saw the Viz translation, and it's a bit better, but still, its too dialogue heavy and unnecessary — just pointing that out before someone says it is Mangastream's fault, btw this is wall x text the manga.
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>>290349284Togashi is like a student that is writing an essay that should be 800 words in length and thinks that writing a 2000 word essay instead will impress the teacher. That is basically how a lot of the fans are behaving as well, I've seen HxH fans praising the series because it has so many dialogues and saying how long it took them to read a single chapter, like it was some type of accomplishment, while other HxH fans are saying they feel dumb because they are not understanding the plot. The truth is, the reason why some people are having difficulty in understanding the plot is because Togashi, as a writer, is failing to express his work to his readers properly, because all he is doing is throwing dialogue and monologue at his fans and telling them that they should figure out his mess, I'm not sure how the editor even approve these chapters. If this was a monthly manga then that could be an excuse to why some fans are forgetting vital points, but it's a weekly series which means it should be easier to follow and remember. Togashi is also lacking in the "show but not tell" type of storytelling, he would rather lazily tell the audience every tiny detail, even the irrelevant ones.I'm sure Togashi has planned out everything in this arc and that he knows what he is doing, but he is not executing it properly if half of his fans feel like it is a chore to read his manga, it just means he is not writing this arc in a creative way. At the end of the day, its the author's story, but he is writing his story to his fans, and if his fans are not liking it, something is clearly wrong. Togashi may have a brilliant idea, but if he is not executing it properly then it is all a waste.
>>290349320This manga overall is a chore to read and it is boring for me personally, the characters for HxH has always been decent for me, I never had a problem with the characters, I don't think they are anything special but at the same time, I don't think they are bad. I don't like the art style because it is drawn in a generic style that I, personally don't like, but its even worst when it is not drawn properly by Togashi. In saying that, the art really doesn't affect my enjoyment that much, since there isn't much art, to begin with.Overall, this manga is a 4/10, and I don't feel like Togashi is taking advantage of his imagination. I know he can do way better than this, and perhaps this series will be a bit more bearable to watch when it's animated, whenever that is.To people that are still enjoying this series, more power to you, but at least try to understand why some peoples are not enjoying it, without talking down on them or challenging their intelligence, because I've seen that a lot.As a university student, reading HxH feels like reading a school textbook, the only purpose is for you to temporarily memorize information just to pass a test. HxH is at the borderline of a school textbook than a fictional book, which basically sums up how I currently feel for this series, and I'm having a lot of doubt that my opinion will ever change.
>>290349284jaekel stop using chat gpt
Hisoka and Tse will meet on tier 1 and Hisoka will train him, it's the only way for Tse to get stronger and learn more about nen. It even makes sense because Tse has a shit ton of potential and Hisoka is great at seeing it in people.
ai;dr
Hisoka will diddle Tserri
Hunterchads schizo is DC calamity manifested into this thread by anons group autism.
>>290349390We're done with nen classes and training arcs. Everyone will get stronger through combat, we are in the climax
>>290349230I realized after I posted it. She could be looking at his regular nen beat though (?)
Too much text and thoughts, not enough plot moving forward. The art isnt even consistent. tserriednich looks shoddy multiple times in this chapter. Some of the art looks low effort.I'm supposed to believe Togashi broke his back over this crap?
>>290349390tserr would call hisokek a faggot i bet
>>290348426>>290348475kek
Literally nothing happened this chapter.
can you guys fellas be normal for once?
>>290349390>Hisoka will train himBy being Tserriednich's punching bag.
>>290349520>guys fellas
Tse thinks that his ability is all about him, that while in zetsu, he is a god, he can do whatever her likes and remain unpunishedBut really it's the opposite, it's all about others. They do their things, ignoring Tse, and Tse cannot change anything about what they do. He think that being outside of reality makes him a god but really that makes it a slave and the way he'll die will probably highlight this.It's a fitting ability for a sadomasochist
>>290349175He doesn't look like Duazul either, so it's no argument. Halkenburg's thing wasn't about who he doesn't look like but who he does (Unma and Ben). Not everyone takes after their mother. Since Tse resembles none of the king's official wives (and he must be a son of one of them), at best you may use his looks as an evidence for him having a different father. Luzurus isn't any similar to his mother (Duazul), but he is to Brocco Li, the leader of his mafia which leads most of the fans to assume he's the real father (that plus Zhang's precedence).
>>290342627>>290345524Tserreidnich feels like a character that should have always been in the manga from the jump, like an irreplaceable piece. I'd like to see more of his tomfoolery and occasional graphic murder going forward
Total clown supremacy btw
>>290349561>Tse cannot change anything about what they doThis is wrong though. Tse still exists in the illusory world and can interact with everyone as normal, he's just in zetsu
>>290349202Jaekel, you're an embarrassment to trolls worldwide. I'm not going to tell you exactly why your trolling sucks because the last thing we need is for you to become competent at this, but seriously you're atrociously bad at this. At this point watching your poor attempts isn't even annoying anymore, it's just sad.
>>290347405>2a. That includes if Tse grabbed a gun that someone was about to reach for and kill someone withI don't think so. Why would it be ? What would have killed the victim? After his instant 10s vision, everything happens as Tse experiences it in stealth mode - if he grabs the gun, it can't be fired. The shooter will think that he shot, the victim might think that they died, but if it didn't actually happen then it didn't happen, no matter what Tse saw in his vision.That's another good example of how Tse can easily misunderstand his ability being about himself (he saw it so it must be true no matter what) when really other people don't care about what he saw >>290349561
>>290349622>can interact with everyone as normalHe explicitly can't. He can't interact with people, he can't put things in their pockets, he can't harm them, he can't take items they are holding. Any attempt to do so fails.
>>290349680Ohh Theta dear I told you not to open the coffin
>>290349390I think it's possible Tse will get his first look a real nen battle by accidentally stumbling past Hisoka vs Bono.
>>290347947>It’s not retarded hes already made massive sacrifices with his nen restrictions, sacrificing his lifespan, etc to get closer to avenging the kurtaThat is because his main duty back then in yorknew was about avenging the Kurta. His duties now are: 1. Protecting Oito and the Wobles 2. Stopping the Succession War 3. Getting his tribe’s eyes back. Revenge is no longer his top priority. That doesn’t mean he wouldn’t want to, or still doesn’t want to, kill the PT, but he won’t do anything that could potentially put Oito, her daughter, or her nephew in danger.
>>290349622No ? And btw pic related is a another good example of Tse's misconception - he phrases like he is the god and the others are just robot or wax dolls, but really it's the opposite - Tse is the one that is a slave to others actions and cannot interact with them.
>>290349812I'm talking about the illusion world, not Tse's world. We saw illusion Tse challenge Ben to a sparring session 2 chapters ago anon, he isn't just comatose in the illusion world
>>290349839i hope that involves him watching Hisoka fuck all of Bono's holes. Imagine the bungee loads.
>>290349839What will Tse learn from watching Hisoka one shot an impoverished minority?
>>290349680>inb4 janny nukes thread again
the 2026 "hunterchad" everyone
jfc try harder please
>>290348315>But is Ren and Ken useful, or just for aura farming?Better balance of offense and defense but taxing. Synergizes with Ryu as well so you can adjust to attack and defense without fully committing with Ko. It takes skill to maintain Ken for just 30 minutes and more skilled opponents can do it for hours.
>>290349907Your argument makes no sense. Tse is in that world just like everyone else, he just doesn't see himself. He's still there. Literally the only restriction is that he's in zetsu.
>>290349915He can't control what he does there though. He tried, and no matter what his intentions were his illusory self doesn't do them. Illusory Tse doesn't seem to take any actions that take the illusion into account.
HunterxHunter will soon be over again lolTogashi needs to reflect on how he's ruined the manga and pivot asap
>>290348660Anon doesn't understand how traveling works.
>>290350013That's true but that just puts him at equal footing with everyone else. He still has agency and his own personality, and he was still able to instigate himself into a fight with Ben. The narrative of him being a "slave" is nonsense
Hiatus soon baby! Let's go!!!!
How far would I get into the succession war if I developed an ability that conjures chimps with AKs?
>>290337807These are the most important panels in the history of manga. Screen cap this.
>>290347998Ren is passively defensive, Ben's Ren is so strong that bullets cannot reach his body. But Ren isn't really a defensive technique, its like step 1 in preparing your hatsu for combat. Ken is just gyo applied to your whole body.
>>290349915Well I was talking about Tse's world then.But even in illusion world - first of all he says in the chapter that he cannot really control what he will do during these 10 seconds (the bit about thinking very hard to get Salkov to fetch water, which always fail)But most importantly - this is a vision, not a prediction - and this is once again where I think Tse is mistaken. He will never be able to influence what happens in these 10s because his ability do not let shape the future - that would be an actual god-like ability - he is bound to be a slave to it.
>>290350131Benjamin already has this ability.
>>290350162>not having a god-like ability = being a slaveAlright then
>>290349167>but the only case of someone using En in a way that it isn't perceptible to others isMorel's smoke acts as his en while it's deployed. Knuckle also can sense the proximity of his ability like Kortupi. Ging suspects that Leorio can use hsi aura like an ultrasound but there is a question I have about the range it can be employed.
>>290347947Yes, it's retarded. Kurapika is a noble, honorable man first and foremost. He will not risk a kid and a woman whom he has sworn to protect, even if it's to get something dear to him. That's not a reasonable moral conflict, everyone knows what the right answer is. If he legit started considering it, that would be truly poor writing.
>>290337836HEY KNUCKLEHEAD, IM TALKIN' TA YOU! BONK!!
>>290350179There's nothing stopping two people from having the same ability. Ask Hanzo.
How Kino
Tserriednich get ipadBisky get ipadWing get ipadWang (Ken'i, aka kenny) get ipadIllumi gets a high colonic from me (imperative)
>>290350131Why not emit?
Is Benjamin the only part of this batch that made something happen?
what killed the hype?
>>290350221I don't remember but I thought Morel's smoke still had noticeable aura to it. Knuckle's ability was very much noticeable, in fact making itself noticeable was part of the conditions. And we haven't really gotten that much on what Leorio actually does with his ability, but even so it is a sensory ability that remains distinct from En, rather than being En but stealthier. Kortopi's ability though is undetectable, seemingly even to Gyo, and was explicitly able to function as En.
>>290350360>t.woman trashDo you even read Hegel?
>>290350420Since the start of the succession war Ben and his omnipresent army is the main reason no one else can really do anything without having to go through layers of sneaky bullshit. I can't wait for his death to see the new status quo.
>>290350404>Illumi gets a high colonic from me (imperative)
>>290350515>omnipresent armyFranklin solos.
>>290337820>>290337836Holy FUARK, Tserri is actually a Gido victim.
be real with me bros....is this all worth it? Will this arc have the greatest playoff and climax in manga?
Am I the only one who thinks Feitan and Phinks are fucked? There's no fucking way they get Morena after the card game chapters.
>>290350674HxH will be another Lost/Westworld.
>>290338014I just now learned the level 1 boat is floating in water
>>290350740explain it like i'm a 10 year old who never read those series
>>290350727I can't see Morena's jobbers take Feitan or Phinx out either
>>290350481>rather than being En but stealthierThere is no undetectable way to use sensory skills like En it seems. The focus and concentration requires seems incompatible with using In to conceal the aura being extended around the user. Kortupi only "technically" accomplishes this because his ability copies real objects that nobody would suspect are actually conjured duplicates without prior knowledge. It's the same mechanism behind Potclean tracking only someone will remember being punched by a greaser and gaining a new tagalong. Otherwise nobody would intuitively know that Knuckle can track them after being hit. Both are En because all they do is tell the creator what direction their creations are. Morel's smoke can be masked by debris and other stuff and it's a blink-and-you-miss-it moment where it's mentioned he uses it like En. It's by far the most stealthy variant of pseudo-en we've seen in the series besides what Ging things Leorio can do.
>>290350759Anon is saying the ending will be generationally disappointing.
>>290350727>FeitanYou have to one shot him or you will be fucked by his ability.
Hinrigh made the heily look like chumps Feitan would clear the 3 mafia families in 15 minutes
>>290339467Absolutely but it needs to be a specialist ability with enough drawbacks to fuck you over, like how kurpika's emperor's time made him age a billion years
go back girl will destroy spider cucks
>>290350759A lot of characters with personality,nonlinear storytelling, flashbacks,mysteries,huge amount of fan theories and disappointing ending despite previous things.
>>290350861Feitan bullied a dude into triggering Voconte's portal because he does not in fact believe he can solo dozens of nen users
>>290347285>I love the kind of girl who would just straight up kill me
Reminder that next chapter is the one that almost killed Togashi.>I'm struggling with how to draw consecutive panels using perspective to show multiple characters.>I'm having such a hard time it's making me feel like I'm going to throw up
Balsamilco's ability will shock the world
>>290351197Proof?
Dogman's combat ability will shock the world
>>290351197Yep, it's Tse's schizo escape from tier 1 time.
>>290351225>sniff sniff
>>290351214https://x.com/Un4v5s8bgsVk9Xp/status/1835953584006914296
>>290351232Not his combat ability
>>290351056>>290350825It would be hard for togashi to fuck it up with all the time on his hands, but the easiest way is to create a kurta massacre revelation that ruins all the writing for kurapika and the troupe
>>290351254he doesn't need one he'll punch real hard and do some DDTs
>>290351234>https://x.com/Un4v5s8bgsVk9Xp/status/1835953584006914296>september 2024wait, what the fuck? This chapter was drawn 2 years ago? what the fuck? now im confused on togashi's speed.
>>290350740Anons already noticed that Tse looks like Sawyer from Lost...
>>290351225He's an enhancer, is combat ability is hit hard. Since he has a dog theme it'll most likely be bite hard.
>>290351309looks like a FPS battle royale video game character
>>290351309Bitches ain't shit but hoes and tricks
>>290351295He made names / storyboards for a large number of chapters in one go then went back and has been making finished manuscripts
>>290351309gido can solo him
Tse's new look reminds me of Fugetsu's wife.
>>290351225>Dogman will sniff Tserriednich within his illusion
>>290351302I can see it
>>290351225Using Gyo?
>>290351355It's temporary until he finds a new safe spot. Then he will go back to the outfit that togashi can draw the fastest. tanktop and baggie sweats
>>290351286>>290351303Exactly, as an enhancer he can create a "punch hard" type ability. Probably one that allows him to chain wrestling moves together for max damage
>>290351354This is why Gido lost his legs.
>>290351415owari da
What would need to happen before the release of 420 for a 50% chance of another batch right after?
>>290346185Hey bro, I like you. Don't show up on Tier 3 of the boat tomorrow.
the lads
>>290351477The deaths of all jpop idols
>>290351359Dogman will suplex Tserriednich through a nen-table (transmuted, not conjured)
>>290351359Depends on whether his hatsu can circumvent an illusion that is confirmed to trick all the sense at this time. There are examples of this but the context is that Meleron had dropped his ability first which enabled Welfin to even detect him to initiate Missileman.
>>290349284>>290349320>>290349347>poster angry about too much text posts too much textIronic.He became what he hated
>>290349839>Come tserri, today you will see the top expression of a nen battle>nen expansion: bubble gum world
>>290349284>>290349320>>290349347correct opinion
>>290351679is it time?
>>290351528i like their dynamic (not in a tumblr gay fujo way)
>Rereading Greed Island because I wanted to see Biscuit train Gon and Killua again>Then just read through the rest because it's cool too (Gon just took a lot of Genthru's attacks without retaliating until he triggered the pitfall trap)>Proceed onwards to read Chimera Ant yet again>Get to the point where Gyro walks through the town the reinforcement party is staying at>Roll my eyes and skip through Gyro's backstory because Togashi hyping up an evil character who proceeds to do nothing and exit the story forever is laaaame
>>290351225in the next banquet...
>>290351679>oh, your ability allows you to time travel? ... well... no matter for you see....>BUNGEE FUTURE
>>290351863Dear diary
>>290351906>Dear diary,>Today some faggot decided that imageboards cannot be used for discussion>What a tool.>Sincerely,>Anonymous
>>290351963You type like a faggot. And faggots like you keep diaries. Discuss like a normal person, FAGGET
>>290351863Gyro will come back to the story soon, trust the plan
She will save us
>>290351985>P.S. he's still going! Some people just have no self-awareness whatsoever.>>290351986It's like this massive running joke that people both proliferate and believe sincerely. It's very weird.
>>290352020no one will save you morena. HE is coming for you bitch.
>>290351863I roll my eyes and skip through all the dark continent setup too because we all know we’ll never see Ging and Pariston again
>>290351863Wrong. Believe in Togashi.
i want to creampie souffle, she is very pretty
>>290352204>sheare you sure
>>290352204Both Montblanc toto and Gelato are prettier
>>290352241positive. was here when all we saw was that funny little panel with HER cute angry face on it and faggots and homosexes were convinced she was a dude, but i towed the line and was vindicated and now i wanna mating press souffle
all heil ly girls are TereBVLLum's bitches
Daemon is the cutest mafia guy.
Bellerainte reminds me of beavis and butthead for some reason, hes got that based retard vibe to him that i resonate with on a deeper level, even though i wanna rihanmaxx
>>290351225Dogman will be stronger than uvo
>schizo pajeet threadYikes
>>290352347I want to know his hatsu and what kind of hunter he is
Someone make a less schitzo thread
Real thread >>290352513>>290352513
>>290352483hes a money hunter (not jewish, BIG difference)
What if Tserri meets Hisoka
>>290349516a lot of stuff happened
>>290351302Reminder that Hurley was murdered by Hisoka
