Volume 63World of DreamsChapter 606: World of Dreamshttps://desuarchive.org/a/thread/274143504Previous thread:>>290317395
>>290342896Kill yourself, narutard.
B6W
>>290343107Based
>>290343064Didn't Madara use izanagi to come back to life after his battle with Hashirama? Shouldn't he only have 1 eye then?
Imagine being in your 30's and liking Naruto.
Thank you daily kages
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>>290343435Goodjob reposting someone else's work OP! I know it's very hard! We all totally appreciate YOU specifically are dumping! (^:
>>290343175Yeah, that anon is a retard. I don't know how you could misunderstand Jiraiya so hard.
>>290343396Black Zetsu was a retcon even this close to the end of the manga lol
Why didn't Jiraya porked Tsunade?
>>290343461Why are you samefagging a comment from a previous thread? Nobody agrees with you. Jiraiya's attitude towards Tsunade vs Orochimaru in that arc is hilarious.
so did obito at no point wonder WHY rin was killed by kakashi?
>>290343558He finds out later. I don't remember how, but Kakashi was a good boy who ain't did nothing wrong.
>>290343435thanks for the comfy dump, OP!
>>290342896>>290343385>>290343627>>290343677These are all the same person, huh?
>>290343737No
Help me understand this timeline since I'm not sure I get it>madara fights hashirama, dies>undoes death with the izanagi in exchange of one eye>injects himself with hasirama sperm and unlocks the rinnegan>apparently regrows an eye somewhere around here for no reason>somehow he transfers his eyes into nagato as a kid without anyone noticing>grows back eyes again by connecting to the statue but only one this time
>>290343737Yes
So Obitos entire journey frok good goy to antagonist took what, one day?
>>290343255>>290343800Madara getting 2 rinnegan is a legitimate plot hole, but i guess Hashirama cum just cures blindness. Madara stole his current sharingan from some scrub Uchiha.
SAARuto.
>290343737It's imperative that you medicate yourself right now, anon
When will the flashback end?
>>290343236>>290343280So why did Obitard have to force everyone in the dream world? Why didn't he just fuck off himself and go into LaLaland, there's no point forcing everyone else into that world when he only cared about having his own dream world. Such bad writing.
>>290343010>Kakashi never suspected that Obito was alive after the crazy incident where he killed Rin and then everyone else wound up deadI think he would have been a little more paranoid.
>>290343064>He secretly transplanted them without anyone noticingSo how exactly did this go down?>Madara sneaks into the boy's house>transplants one eyeball>plucks out his second eyeball>realizes he can't see shit anymore>somehow finishes the surgery anyways>still stone fucking blind afterwards>no one notices him gripping his way back home
>>290343128Was there any point to Madara letting himself die? Couldn't he just wait for Nagato to come restore his youth or something?
>>290343910I wonder when Kishi decided he wanted Nagato's eyes to be Madara's. I guarantee they were originally just Nagato's when he conceived them.
>>290343041>The hate is strong in you. A powerful Uchiha you shall become. Henceforth, you shall be called... Tobi.
>>290342937>>290342954Didn't do it for Rin.
>>290343064>Nagato is of SenjuIs this a mistranslation? Is Nagato supposed to be both Uzumaki and Senju? Wtf
>>290343255>Didn't Madara use izanagi to come back to life after his battle with Hashirama? Shouldn't he only have 1 eye then?apparently Izanagi blindness is reversed by awakening the Rinnegan.
>>290343505I agree with him. I think you're a retard.
>>290343995Just assume every character that is in some way relevant has every blood line.
>>290343995The Uzumaki are a branch of the Senju. Naruto himself is later referred to as Senju.
>>290343064This is even dumber than Madara using Genjutsu on Nagato's parents.
>>290343098GROOMERbito>>290343128So, did Madara die before Sasuke was born or what?
>>290343128>>290343419>>290343435Arigatou, OP!
>>290344035I wasn't even in the argument. You're a cringe samefag. Everyone always joked about Jiraiya's disposition towards Tsunade and Orochimaru being bad writing. Take your (You) and run along now.
>>290344113you're talking to the usual suspect
>>290343461I never said that scene was a huge flaw on Jiraiya, just that it was funny.You guys are taking discussion over children's manga a little too seriously.
>>290344088>So, did Madara die before Sasuke was born or what?Yeah, logically, since Sasuke is his reincarnation or something. I guess Ashura's chakra just hung around waiting for decades after Hashirama died since Madara was still alive.
>>290344057When was that stated? I only recall Kushina saying the Senju and Uzumaki are distant relatives.
>>290343737Maybe.
You won't understand Naruto.... because you never experienced love in real life.
>>290344132I'm not part of your retarded meta faggotry, retard.
>>290344057I don't remember Naruto being refered as a senju.>>290344161I dunno, the timeline is a little too tight.
>>290342976Should've taken his eye back right here, there is no reason not to.
>>290344205>I dunno, the timeline is a little too tight.Naruto's timeline as a whole is completely fucked. Hashirama apparently knew his granddaughter Tsunade well enough to know both about her gambling and her super strength, yet he had to have been dead when Hiruzen was still a very young man.
>>290344141It's just 1 autist
>>290343737Oh?
>>290344197Ignore him, it's just 1 autist trying to make everyone be part of his meta flamewar. It's really pathetic and embarrassing kek.
>>290343049gag manga now
>>290343558That's the genius part: it doesn't matter.Rin died, that's all that matters to understand Obito and the story.Kakashi stabbing Rin was just shocking for shock value and nothing more.Kakashi was literally the least important person in the scene.
>>290344416>nowIt turned into a gag at the 5 kage summit
>>290343910It would have made more sense if Madara had intercourse with a Uzumaki woman and Nagato was their illegitimate son
>>290344241He should have gone into the dream world by himself. There was no reason not to.
>>290344254So much fuckinh retcon had to be done because Madara needed a rival
>>290342902>Kakashi wakes up in a pool of blood>Under a tree with strange fruit>Never questions this ordeal or how he survived
>>290343980There's a portuguese guy on X who firmly believes this and calls everyone else retarded illiterates for showing evidences of the contrary
>>290344563Or say if Nagato's father was actually his step dad.
>>290343098>>290343113>Still attached to the statue when creating Black ZetsuThis at least does make the later reveal more believable. Among other things.
>>290344626It really doesn't. Bro still had to be hiding inside Madara without him having any idea at all.
>>290344619Does he visit these threads?
>>290344477Literally the first chapter of the manga has Naruto oneshotting Hiruzen with sexy jutsu.
>>290344626>This at least does make the later reveal more believableNot really.
>>290344685Yeah, but that's actual intentional gags VS the writing has become so bad it's a gag manga.
>>290343098>Oh wait Obito, it happens that I also know Edo Tensei, which I can teach you. So immediately revive me as a corpse so I can help with the plan. Better safe than sorry, right? We can even revive me later for real using Rinne Rebirth.
>>290343443This always makes me laugh. OP really is a unique brand.
>>290342902>>290343147So the color version just skips a page or are you that incompetent?
was it intentional Obito's hair look like Madara's here?
>>290344950>bothering with posting the color at all>asking if he's incompetent I mean...
>>290344950>color version just skips a pagewouldn't be the first time
>>290343128Lots of faith to put in an Uchiha brat who has no guarantee to see through your resurrection
>>290343082Idgi, is that giant flower made from Hashirama's wood style?
>>290343098>>290343113ENTER THE THE REAL VILLAIN
Comfy
>>290343082I like how these are good enough to use for edo tensei later on
Imagine if someone dumped the next chapter so we could continue talking about how bad these chapters are. That'd be crazy lol.
>>290345379they later reveal that they are victims of Kaguya, so they have their own souls. otherwise it would be an easy way to cheat death.
>>290344950
>>290344950Newfriend....>>290345577So the colored is made by Japanese fans? Because those aren't actually official.
>>290345545It still is an easy way to cheat death even with the alien bunny retcons
>>290345626>So the colored is made by Japanese fansWas that not obvious by the shitty text layovers?
Is Isobu the most spiteful bijuu?>Yagura was said to be a perfect jinchurki >Should be immune to genjutsu since his partner can help him break free>Isobu sits by for decades while his host is being genjutsu'd >Gets put inside Rin>Tells her he's gonna burst out her pussy the moment they get to Konoha >Tells her to kill herself to stop himWhy was the turtle so mean?
>>290345680I forgot about those.
Obito is trying his HARDEST to outrank Itachi as the worst Uchiha.
Why didn't Obito just use Madara's rinnegan to resurrect Rin?
>>290346124Because it's not about Rin! Reeeeee
>>290346124He didn't think of it.
>>290346124because then he'd have to explain why he's crushing on a girl who's a decade younger
>>290346124He just really wanted to kill more people.
Why didn't Madara just have Obito rez him with Rinnegan eyes right after he died?
>>290343365Your on /a/
>>290343128why was Madara revived as young man instead of this old ass grandpa version?Edo Tensei is such a boring asspull "Oh my rubber nen" shit
>>290342902>>290343010>>290343023Why didn't Obito go back to Konoha with Kakashi? It's not like they hated each other, Kakashi carries Obito's left eye after all. And at this point, he and Minato are seemingly the only friends Obito has left. A few chapters ago he was talking about how eager he was to see everyone again.But in these last two chapters, he barely even notices Kakashi.Is Rin really the only person in the whole world Obito cared about?Do the rest of Team Minato and Konohagakure really mean nothing to him?We're supposed to believe that he would rather go sulk in a cave with some crazy old man he met like a few weeks ago?The fact that this is a series where characters routinely lose teammates on the battlefield just makes this even worse.I'm sorry but this chapter makes Obito look like a total bitch.
>>290344804Would have been revived as his geezer self, but I suppose as an edo tensei it would not really make q difference to him
>>290347120Kabuto "modified" him, which really makes no sense because it would imply he could have done it with others. Chiyo could have been brought back in her prime. Hanzo as well.
>>290344563that would require madara to not be gay
>>290343098>You need both Uchiha and Senju power to awaken Rinnegan and control the statueOh I get it, Sasuke will come join the fight, die a heroic death and grant his eyes to Naruto, and that's how they'll beat Madara.
>>290347200It does, if you paid attention to the story and stopped nitpicking. You’d get more value from Madara than some old hag and a faggot that lost to Pain
>>290347120the better question is what was madara's plan? to revive as a decrepit old man who needed to have the roots of his boyfriend planted on his ass to live?
>>290347369No. It makes no sense how Kabuto brought Madara back in his prime and makes even less sense why he wouldn't do the same for his other summons if he's capable of "modifying" them. Retard.
>>290347460I just explained why. You’re a fucking idiot.
>>290347460>makes even less sense why he wouldn't do the same for his other summons if he's capable of "modifying" themIt takes a lot of resources and time and he thought a modified Madara was enough of an asset by himself
>>290347133>AI shart
>>290343128>>290343937Yeah, why did he disconnect himself here? Nothing requires him to be dead for the plan to proceed, right?
Is it just Naruto and Shounen threads or are /a/ anons usually this retarded? Some of these takes feel like they came from /v/ or nigger zoomers
>>290345626Color is an official Japanese digital only release. The English version of the colours are a fan scanlation which is why the typesetting is bad
>>290347610Nobody was arguing the WHY. No shit it makes sense WHY he brought Madara back in his prime. Why didn't he do the same for others? And HOW did he do it. You're a waste of oxygen.
>>290347688We do have at least 1 regular /v/ tard here. He also posts the most, so not surprising the threads always seem low IQ.
>>290342920I thought you instantly knew both the name of the Buddhist deity your ability is named after, and all the intricate details of how it manipulates consciousness or reality upon activation. But now you want me to believe Tobito isn't even using it consciously? I mean to him, it shouldn't appear to be phasing, right? Since he's (until now) willingly switching to the noclip kamui dimension. He only appeared to be phasing to people who dont know what's happening. To him he is either in one dimension or the other. But here it seems he cant even control it sometimes when hes trying to touch Rin, as if he still is only aware of a single dimension.So which is it? They learn about their ability slowly, after a lot of trial and error? Or they get Matrix uploaded Amaterasu.txt? This chapter heavily implies its the former. But how do you ever figure out your ability is Izanagi? Or Izanami? How do you know when you've discovered everything about your ability, and its all done? Like Kamui here might appear to be invulnerability or phase shifting until you discover the Kamui dimension. When did the first Izanagi user decide he had figured out all its powers?
>>290343082All unnecessary bullshit
>>290348132Most of the time Kishi just wants to draw cool looking things.
>>290343064The writing of this story is just getting dumber and dumber as we get closer to the end. Kishi had no idea how to finish this story, just writing on vibes. How could madara give nagato his eyes and no one noticed???
>>290343098THE COOLEST GROOMER
>>290344477>5 kage summitIt was retarded from the start.
>>290347133Because of Zetsu.
>>290343937I feel like asking for that was a bigger gamble than simply letting himself be revived.
>>290347369The story never implies it takes any effort out of Kabuto to give every edo improvements.
>>290343558He don’t care cause his waifu died that all that matters. Gonna go kill my teachers wife and unleash nine tails on the village.
>>290344141Yeah it's not a dealbreaker but the difference is a bit jarring. Sandro would've done worse
>>290347645NTA but what resources?His chakra? More bodies or cells?When exactly did Kabuto have the time to give Madara those improvements? Even before proposing the edos to Obito?
All posters are "the same person". Because "we" are all "Uchiha Madara". The ones that reject this "world" and strive for a new one.
>>290348546We were all faggot warehouse bunnies with AIDS all along
>>290347369Brother, Kabuto wasted time and resources reviving Asuma and B's friend's father.
>>290343113>dildo statue jutsu
>>290348630And on Sai's "brother" who was just a glorified bomb for Deidara to use.
>>290348382It was decent when it was ripping off HxH
Kabuto wasted chakra on:>Pre chunin exams Foxruto victims>Motoi's literal who father>Genin level Asuma>Sai's brother>That one nameless Iwa nin>Kakuzu (got blitzed by the gate guards and off-screened by Tenten and Choji [not tokubetsu level])
>>290349165>Dan
>>290349165All Kabuto needed was Deidara to nuke and regenerate over and over.
>>290349249Dan is probably hella strong with his phantom jutsu.>>290349263Uh...He can't do that because...reasons.
>>290349028Dude.
>>290349337>Dan is probably hella strong with his phantom jutsuWhy didn't he do anything before the edo was released?
>>290349337Dan dying is kinda hilarious. His phantom jutsu doesn't seem to have any real limitations on range or length of use, so there's no reason he should have been on the battlefield. He should have just been sniping enemies from the safety of his village or some hideout.
>the only akatsuki member to have any real genuine moment of mourning was deidara>when he nuked himself in an effort to annihilate the uchiha>even nagato outright was kinda sad they lost this fuckin guydont get me wrong i appreciate him and his nonsense but of all the akatsuki members>basically nobody cared itachi died, not even kisame>kisame an heroed admitting itachi was right, nobody cared, even obito who face revealed to him for some fucking reason>nagato died and konan sure did handle him and yahiko but it was otherwise just "shit theyre dead lets go i guess">sasori got nothing>kakuzu and hidan got nothing, hidan arguably got what he deserved though>orochimaru bailed anyway and didnt die so it went nowhere>itachi's old partner and kakuzu's old partners also got nothing in the end because they jobbed like crazyof all the ones that should have gotten a moment why only deidara?
>>290349387I don't understand if this is supposed to show Naruto is good or bad.
>>290349466This is straight up stupid. And it shows how Kishimoto writes in general, making very simple things look complicated because he has no idea of what to do. He just drops "well, X happened somehow" all the time. Remember Neji dumping political conspiracies made by his government in front of thousands of people including tons of foreign agents and governors? Hell, forget about that, the entire fucking premise of chunin exams makes zero sense from the start.
>>290349387>>290349631I don't see what's wrong with this? It's actually pretty clever, especially for Kishi's writing. We don't see any ounce of strategy like this after the chuunin exams.
>>290349722That info is just a few steps away from being a HxH parody.
>>290349722Turning into Kiba's dog is alright. The fucking paragraph dump explanation isn't. Also we've had a lot of similar or better tactics after that, Naruto pulled these transformation tricks against Pain for instance.
>>290343010I like that the tobi-collar mirrors Zetsu's Venus fly trap >>290343064 . Doesn't seem to have any deeper lore-meaning though, does it? It's not like Zetsu is walking around via another zetsu-body-suit?
>>290349758*info dump
>>290347133Obito would only have returned to Konoha if, instead, Kakashi had been the one kidnapped, forcibly turned into the Three-Tails' jinchuriki, and killed, while Rin had somehow survived. The guy never cared about anyone but Rin so much so that he literally stepped right over Kakashi's unconscious body without a second glance.
>>290347133>>290349808What would Obito have done if Rin straight up rejected him before he "died"? We he have cared this much or would have gone full incel before this and run away from the village?
>>290346124It just doesn't work like that, okay? That would make way too much sense, a better plan would be attacking your own village, capturing all the tailed beasts to resurrect Madara and hypnotising the entire world in genjutsu!
I feel like Kishimoto having Obito say he didn't do it for Rin after this is egregiously insulting to the readers.The entire iconography of this chapter is just how fucking devasted Obito is over Rin's death, he wants the world of Dreams because of Rin, he only accepts Madara's plan because of Rin, he only betrays Madara because he finds out he was behind Rin's death, Rin was his light and RINRINRINRINRINRINRIN
>>290350157Obito had shit taste
>>290350157It's even dumber when it's just his childhood crush. You would have thought that in the 20 years or so after that he would have gotten over it already and thought "Maybe this whole plan is fucking retarded and I should just get over it"
>>290350078Honestly? I think he'd do the same shit all over again.
What's Madara's motivation for this exactly? Why does he care about the current generation he has no actual ties with?
>>290343800>>290343846What's weird is that there's legitamately no reason for the second Rinnegan to exist. Kishi could have just made it so that only one Rinnegan exists and nothing would change.
>>290350332He's power Hungry and seething.
The moon eye plan is just too stupid. Both Madara and Obito are retarded and still don't get why they had to put the entire world in their dream land. What difference does it make to them if they are in their by themselves or with everyone else? They all get their own dreams anyway.
>>290350684I don't fucking know, the whole thing makes zero sense.
Can you imagine Naruto seeing Sasuke Chidori Sakura through the chest, and then deciding to start a terrorist organization and trap the whole world inside a tree just so he could live in a world where Sakura is his girlfriend?
>>290350855He's just like me ong
It's amusing how the Uchiha are both the worst part of Naruto and the only reason there's a story to begin with.
The motivations for all these antagonists except for Neji or Gaara are fucking weak.
>>290350855Can you imagine Sakura waiting Naruto for 20 years in afterlife as her true love while not giving shit about what happens with Sasuke?
>>290351361I'm fine with Orochimaru. As was Jiraiya, obviously.
>>290351450Obito didn't do anything to deserve this type of ending. He should have been burning in Hell.
>>290351635That is hell. Rin is the devil.
>>290343082No one questions how the moon stayed intact if the statue was the core. I guess after a few centuries (yes, centuries) it hardened enough?
>>290350157This was also written to explain Obito’s ambivalence toward Madara. That’s why he didn’t kill Naruto while the Ninja Coalition was still weaker. Even though he was capable of doing so, based on what we learned about him after he had his “Madara” revelation. It’s just another parallel, and it’s one of the good ones—at least on the plot side. Since power inflation has created so many continuity errors. My “patient zero” was the Flying Raijin retcon. That jutsu signals a shift in the series’ tone. Up until then, the fights had been on the more cartoonish side with loose rules. But the Flying Raijin retcon attempts to bring the series back down to earth while downgrading staples like Substitution Jutsu. Since Flying Raijin is, for all intents and purposes, a weaker version of Substitution Jutsu. But Naruto Shippuden is more “mature” since the cast is older.
>>290351669Kino twist desu
>>290351682In Naruto: The Last, the moon is hollow anyway.
>>290351716I genuinely have no idea what the fuck you're trying to say here
>>290351775Obito was doing everything for Rin. He wasn't truly evil like Madara.
>>290351838He was just as retarded and more pathetic since he was simping for a childhood crush that confessed her love to his teammate while his corpse(assumed) was still warm. Obito may not be "evil" but he sure isn't justified.
>>290351903Yes, nothing he did is justified, which is why Kishimoto still kills him. He doesn’t die as a “wise hero” like Itachi or Sarutobi. But he was punished for his actions (even though his existence as a half-plant thing is enough of a punishment in itself), and this Obito retcon works on a story continuity level. Every time you think, “Man, why didn’t he just wipe out the whole of Konoha in Part 1?” it’s explained by the flashbacks.
>>290351716>This was also written to explain Obito’s ambivalence toward Madara. Do you even know what you're trying to say? Obito didn't have any conflicting feelings for Madara, he clearly didn't like him and never intended to bring him back.>That’s why he didn’t kill Naruto while the Ninja Coalition was still weaker. Even though he was capable of doing so, based on what we learned about him after he had his “Madara” revelation. What revelation? He didn't kill Naruto after he was born and Minato died, what's his reasoning then?>It’s just another parallel, and it’s one of the good ones—at least on the plot side. Parallel to what?>Since power inflation has created so many continuity errors. My “patient zero” was the Flying Raijin retcon. How is it a retcon?>That jutsu signals a shift in the series’ tone. Up until then, the fights had been on the more cartoonish side with loose rules. Yeah, giant tsunami's of sand had real defined rules>But the Flying Raijin retcon What retcon?>attempts to bring the series back down to earth while downgrading staples like Substitution Jutsu. This makes no sense >Since Flying Raijin is, for all intents and purposes, a weaker version of Substitution Jutsu. The fuck are you on about?>But Naruto Shippuden is more “mature” since the cast is older.It's not even. The land of waves arc is more mature than most of anything in part 2.This whole post is gibberish and comes off as someone failing to sound intellectual. It's impressively bad.
>>290352002>it’s explained by the flashbacks.Not really
>>290350217Obsession. He was taking fucking candid photos of Rin in public.
>>290352066>He had no mixed feelings.He killed thousands of people and did everything Madara asked of him. His actions contradict his words.>Flying RaijinWhat makes Flying Raijin better than Substitution?>ObitoSimilar to Orochimaru, Danzo, and other powerful figures
>>290352246>He killed thousands of peoplehe did that for fun
>>290352246>What makes Flying Raijin better than SubstitutionProbably the ability to instantly transport long distances. Substitution doesn't even make sense from how it was explained in part 1 and how it's used in the rest of the series.
>>290352276Madara played on his hatred. Just like Orochimaru, Danzo, and MIZUKI. Kishimoto wrapped up the series' overarching theme with the Obito arc.
>>290352246>His actions contradict his words.What words?
>>290352380That's what I was saying. The original Naruto didn't have the same strict rules as Shippuden, so all kinds of crazy stuff happened. Flying Raijin is way less impressive than what two low-level ninjas like Naruto and Sasuke did to Zabuza.
>>290352450>Flying Raijin is way less impressive than what two low-level ninjas like Naruto and Sasuke did to ZabuzaNot really
Hiashi won.
>>290353154Until his clan gets the ayy ash bones, he will never win.
Hello, freaks
I see both threads are back to their natural tumbleweeds state
>>290352511I think anons point is rather that sub should able to do everything ftg was allowed to, there's quite a few instances where people use substitution to get behind the opponent but never get the kill shot for some reason.
>>290352002>nothing he did is justified, which is why Kishimoto still kills himConsidering he kept Orochimaru and Kabuto alive, I really doubt Kishi gave a shit anymore at that point.
can i post 5 pics of sakura please?
>>290353321>there's quite a few instances where people use substitution to get behind the opponentGo ahead and point them out
>>290353450Sasori's fight is the first to come to my mind.I think Sakura also did that on Kin but ran towards Zaku instead lol.
>>290353380The thread is dead. Doubt anyone will care. Knock yourself out.
>>290353522>Sasori's fight is the first to come to my mind.It's never used>I think Sakura also did that on Kin but ran towards Zaku instead lol.No
>>290351838>slaughtered all the women and children in his clan>not evil
>>290353572Sasori did use substitution to get behind Chiyo.
>>290353668That wasn't substitution
>>290353380Don't even think about it you little stinker
>>290353321Wasn't Shisui super good at teleporting by using the substitution jutsu or something?
futa sakura.
just found out the guy who did zootopia abortion comic also did a comic commission with hanabi x boruto foot fetish
>Kills the thread even further by reporting peopleIf I speak, I am in trouble.
>>290355030butt too bigthey should be flattened a bit by gravity, like her thighs are in that image
Konanfag just fucking died.Panel cropping guy just fucking diedWar is hell
Where did everyone unironically go?
>>290353846It was>>290353951That was body flicker
>>290344254>Naruto's timeline as a whole is completely fucked.Kishi has absolutely zero sense of time at scale, don't forget that despite Obito saying "What era are we talking about here?!" When he finds out Madara is still alive, as if he lived hundreds of years ago, in Boruto the village elders are still alive completely naturally post timeskip, despite that they are contemporaries of Madara and Hashirama, and by that point Naruto is in his 40's and has grown up children, and Obito was shocked that Madara was alive between 55 and 60 years prior to that.Simultaneously the 3rd hokage is portrayed as an extremely old man, despite that based on the village elders still being alive in late Boruto era, both Hashirama and Madara could've both been alive naturally without any magic immortality shit required in the Shippuden era.
>>290355825Pic related, the village elders as ~10 year olds with Hashirama and Tobirama in their late 20's/early 30's, and the same village elders still alive talking to middle aged Shikamaru in post timeskip Boruto
>>290355763i ate them
>>290355999Anko...
>>290355967And this is without getting into the retardation that is 'Granny Tsunade' being Hashiramas granddaughter, people constantly acting as if both her and Jiraiya are older people from a bygone age, yet their masters teammates (who are presumably the exact same age as the 3rd hokage) are still alive and running the village more than 25 years after Jiraiya died.
>>290355032The fuck are you talking about?
>>290355967>from the events of the founding of Konoha to the start of Naruto was only 80 years, give or take
The biggest timeline fuck up is Anko getting the curse mark while Juugo was a toddler.
>>290356156You can see Kishi's bad grasp on time manifest in smaller ways too, like Kakashi being a young teenager during the Kyuubi attack, too young to be allowed to fight, but then later having the attack be perpetrated by Obito, who somehow at the time was the size of an adult man and had a deep mans voice, while being the exact same age as Kakashi.
>>290355768>It wasGo re read.
>>290355967>>290356118The Second Hokage should have been Hashirama's son. Hashirama dies in his mid 40s and his son takes over at 20. The son rules until he's 60 and then Hiruzen takes over at 20ish. Tsunade should have been the 2nd's granddaughter. Kakuzu should been 140ish years old
>>290356212>while being the exact same age as KakashiHe's not. Kakashi is younger
>>290356334At most by like 1-3 years
>>290356366Like 6 years
>>290356334That still doesn't change anything unless for some weird reason Obito is like 5 years older than Kakashi, despite being in the same class at the academy, consider that during the Kyuubi attack, Obito is the same height and frame as Minato, and has a deep adult voice. (Also please ignore that Minato can't instantly recognize his own apprentice even though its been like, 14 months since his 'death')
Madara shouldn't even look as old as he does when Obito meets him, he's at the absolute maximum 20 years older than the village elders, assuming Hashirama took them as his apprentices when he was in his 30's (Kakashi was only 25 when he took on team 7 and had already been failing teams for years by that point.)Extrapolating back from the 3rd hokage's teammates surviving to the late post-timeskip Boruto era, Madara could've naturally still been alive AFTER his final post-resurrection death, no immortality or gedo statue required.
>>290356421Kakashi was 5 when he graduated the academy. Obito looks like Naruto's age, so that would make him 11 or 12
>>290356241Anon, it was substitution in the same way Orochimaru sheding his skin is a substitution.
>>290356585So it's not substitution. Glad we finally got you there.
>>290356241I'm sorry but considering that Sasori couldn't even outsped Sakura when trying to stab Chiyo's back, i'm pretty sure they would've seen Sasori manually exiting one layer of his puppet shell.What happened is much more in line with Sub jutsu fuckery.
>>290356646Oro's technique literally has substitution in the name.
>>290356676Don't care. It's not substitution >>290356704Nope
>>290355032What got flagged for you? There's a particularly sensitive faggot that reports anything he doesn't like in these threads. Especially comments calling him out.
The tumbleweeds are back
>>290343082>yes i turned the cells of that hoe who went and married a woman into a flower that fruits inferior clones of him without even any cocks>also the moon is fake lol
>>290343098Wouldn’t Rinne Tensei just revive him as an old geezer?
>>290358300Wasn't that already talked about in this very thread?
These threads were a lot more entertaining when OP had a meltie. This shit is boring. Someone post the next chapter.
>>290355672>Panel cropping guy just fucking diedmore like he just threw away that persona, like he has many others
>>290355672>Panel cropping guy just fucking diedThat's just OP. He fucked up when he cropped tenten and forgot to remove his trip. So he's also the Tenten fag.
>>290355763OP took the advice from yesterday and got a life. He was extremely asshurt about being called out for spending his entire days in these threads. So now there's no samefagging going on. These are the real state of the dead threads.
>>290359452Looks that way. Even let his previous dead thread finally die>>290317395
>>290359932Anko became a chunin at 2 apparently
>>290359932This is retconned. It no longer happened like that. It's completely impossible given the Obito flashback.
>>290360311Not really. Kakashi was just younger than his teammates.
>>290360339But his height...
>>290360432Kakashi was just built different.
Did Rin know she fell for someone half of her age?
>>290360432He was wearing the whore stilettos that all the Boruto chicks wear.
>>290349387the anime fixed this by simply having her say "Naruto can attack either one but Akamaru and Kiba can't attack because they might hit each other"
>>290347133If you must have an explanation for this, chalk it up to the Uchiha Curse i.e. they love so much that when they lose that love they're genetically predisposed to go insane with hatred. It's fucking stupid, but it's the best you'll ever get with this shit.
Bleach won
>>290362393More proof you shitpost in those threads too.
>>290350524>People would have fallen for it if they had the chance.Yes stupid people exist. But I don't think the majority would give up on reality.>Madara and Obito were not stupid, they knew what they were doingThis is directly contradicted by the fact that they went for EotM plan despite knowing what it is. >They were supremely butt hurt by the world and wished to have and use unlimited power to get revenge against existing. Nice headcanon. Works as a psychoanalysis and I agree to the extent that their real motivations should've been more sinister than world peace for their actions to not seem retarded. >That is what communism is,No it isn't. EotM plan cannot make sense without sinister motivations until severe mental illness is involved. Communism on the other hand is perfectly internally consistent with it's stated motivations. Which is why the analogy is stupid. EotM is sinister and evil in and of itself, despite the real motivations of it's perpetrators, while communism isn't. You could say that communism is a good idea which may have some people with sinister motives behind it while EotM is an evil idea with well minded people behind it. The former is explained by subterfuge and cunning, the latter is explained by sheer stupidity, as was the case with Madara and Obito.
>>290363112Schizo >>290363255
>>290347688It's just shounen threads.
>>290343957>. I guarantee they were originally just Nagato's when he conceived them.That much is certain. Nagato should've been an actual reincarnation of 6 paths. Madara should never have developed rinngan. The whole indra asura thing should never have happened.
>>290342896this chapter came out 3 days after I found out I was pregnant
>>290363777I don't get when people hate what happened, like what SHOULD have happened is just all the prophecy stuff that happened because it SHOULD have happened in the story too
>>290363850Here's what a better Naruto story would look like:>Sasuke never leaves team 7 >Itachi remains a villian. He does not kill the Uchihas in their sleep but fights them head on and slaughters them 1v all. He is a genuine psychopath and operates independently to the akatsuki.>Pain is the real incarnation of 6 paths and can be the final villian. >Orochimaru never joins the good guys. Has a bigger role to play and remains one of the main antagonists>No EotM, no alien bunny stuff, >Obito remains dead. Backstory may give meaning to kakashi's character>Madara being a villian is optional. Jinchurikis and other tailed beasts are optional. >More focus on ninja missions and rival village politics. More plots like Neji's backstory. >Sakura is actually competent and the team's brain. >Naruto is less of a faggot. No frog prophecy bs.
>>290364803Tobi doesn't exist?
>>290355825Like Israel and Gaza. What a bullshit.
>>290343280>he needs rin and kakashi bothcuckbito
>>290364803if sasuke never leaves team 7 sasuke never exists, you seem to think that mangaka can just create the exact story they want, without anybody meddling.
>>290343375>so if we do this asspull built upon this other asspull thanks the related asspull and with the help of that asspull too we can asspull the whole lorewhat the fuck kishi was thinking
>>290343435thanks op.
>>290364981Tobi is optional depending on how the Madara plot plays out. Maybe Tobi actually is Madara in disguise. I just don't want to take akatsuki away from pain. That's his thing. >>290365320Are you implying that Sasuke leaving was editor meddling?
>>290365421Sasuke EXISTING was editor meddling
>>290365421>Tobi is optional depending on how the Madara plot plays out. Maybe Tobi actually is Madara in disguise. I just don't want to take akatsuki away from pain. That's his thing.Take him out of the Akatsuki garb into his og cool outfit and he can be a mysterious 3rd/4th party in the story
rin was soaking wet in limbo watching godbito wipe out blood mist fodder while cuckashi jobtake fainted like a chakralet bitch
On a seperate note, that retard made me remember how wordy early Naruto was. The anime definitely made it more natural compared to the manga’s word dump
>>290365858This would be okay if it actually meant something for longer than 5 seconds
>>290366549>exposition dump>exposition dump again, retconning the previous exposition dumpKino.
>>290366571It's not even that. He doesn't make exposition dumps that retcon the previous ones, he just randomly writes small things that are completely inconsistent with the way the world was supposed to be.He couldn't even be assed to keep a timeline of his characters. Kakashi was 6.. but then he was 11... and then Ibiki is from his generation somehow, even though he wasn't?Actually scratch all of this shit. Remember Obito posing besides the 4th Hokage's face? I can't believe this shit happened.
>>290363831How's tge kid?
>>290363831post belly with timestamp or gtfo
>>290342920that's pretty sad
>>290343041enter a savior
>>290345626>not knowing about official color releases>calling other newfags
>>290359424I mean, Tenten hasn't appeared in a long time. Nothing to crop there.
>>290368381My bad
>>290368422She would trivialize these fights too much.
>>290368184It really isn't. It's tryhard.
>>290368789It is
https://desuarchive.org/a/thread/282986493/#282986493
>>290370785I'm just curious, are you the same person that was spamming "kill yourself narutard" over and over again a few months ago with pics of that protester or the screenshot of a ban over Naruto? Did you get rangebanned from posing images so now you just spam the same posts over and over again with desu links, or saying "tumbleweeds"/"comfy"?Do you have any self awareness on how pathetic and obsessed you are by constantly doing this? I'm just asking.
chill
>fecaloid noises
chill, guys, be kind. anyway. - coffee- oatmeal- ramen with eggs, tomatoes, pepper - coffee- fruit- pate with bread and tomatoes- coffee againfuark. time for another chapter
>>290359424>He fucked up when he cropped tenten and forgot to remove his tripkek. i wanna see. link me desu
>>290371343The kill yourself narutard still posts in other threads. Idk but all the other stuff, but at least 2 different anons post tumbleweeds.
>>290351635Is terrorism against killer villages really morally measurable? The entire purpose of madara and kaguya is that Obito can redeem himself before his death. The sinner who regrets is eventually forgiven by god (or Hagoromo).
>tenten fagfunny.
>>290371640Do you intentionally try to be as cringe as you can?
>>290371943He killed random civilians with the 9-Tails attack. Assisted in killing his own clan, which probably included non-combatants too. He definitely did things that were morally reprehensible.
>>290371948amaterasu
>>290343064Uhm, how does an adult eye fit into a childs skull? Adult eyes are almost twice as big. Also wouldn't Nagato's hormones cause the eyes to grow even bigger?
>>290372105You're questioning the plug-and-play eyes in Naruto?
I need to confess. the color version looks ugly.
>>290372105They seem pretty big to me.
>>290372174Water is wet
Maybe if OP wasn't so aggressive and defensive more people would read Naruto. Just a thought?/
Oh, the Kengan daily finished. That explains some thing.
>>290372076According to the light novels, Obito bravely held off the women and children and other civilians while SoloKing handled the police force.
>>290372290If OP posted more than 1 chapter for the most shit arc, people would read more of it. OP being defensive over the series doesn't really matter.
>>290372381>OP being defensive over the series doesn't really matter.Ok, DumbFuckingRetard
Wait so who was supposed to resurrect Madara with the rinnegan? Nagato? How would Obito convince him to revive himself? >>290343128
They just announced two One Piece movies. How do we recover?
>>290372411How does it actually affect anything? Who cares if he wants to be defensive or possessive over Naruto? It's not his manga. He's just reposting it. The only thing it actually affects is his stubbornness to only dump single chapters during the worst arc, but we got like 3 months at this point. So whatever.
>>290372688Seriously, just read another manga, you're not chained here.
>>290372763Nah
>>290372331It is interesting. I think I'm nooticing some familiarity with some of the posts...
OP just enjoys attention, after this daily ends he's back to his lone self. Cue the stalling
>>290372290OP just dumps chapters and says nothing. How is that aggressive?
>>290372854Hello, OP
>>290372105In Naruto it doesn't work like that because it's not real life.
>>290372763I think I'll just take over the daily since we all agree it doesn't matter who reposts Kishi's manga, right?
>>290372905Ok, Sakon.
>>290372892ah ok you are just a schizo. Got it.
>>290372854Just because you remove the trip after the dump doesn't mean you just fuck off. The threads would archive otherwise lol
>>290372796Wdym nah? I said, read and leave.
>>290372940Gross. Don't accuse me of being that faggot.
>>290372950>a schizoYou haven't met a real schizo.
>>290373008Nah
>>290373055wtfffffffff
>>290372843I think the few people left in these threads are done with Naruto after the daily ends. OP can stall and dump other stuff all he wants.
>>290372331Don't check Kengan threads. The fanbase are literally mouth breathers. Jiggle the keys in front of them and they will go apeshit.If you want to read Kengan, pirate it
>Gets ignored for hours>Replies to himself to fake a meltieYou do this everytime then cry about being warned/reported, unironically treat yourself.
>>290373233>Don't check Kengan threadsI don't. I just know the local faggot in these threads was distracted with that nonsense. >The fanbase are literally mouth breathersExplains the faggot.
>>290365858>land of fire was originally land of leaveshm
>>290372331Explain what? The dramafaggotry only took off after your post.>>290372375>COPEvelsDiscarded.
4 episodes announcement on October 10? it's finally happening
Can't wait for disney to buy rights for Naruto
>>290373511The thread was dead all yesterday. Now it's back to shitposts and cringe that have been noticeably absent for awhile.
>>290372105ackshually your eyes don't really grow during your lifetime, which is why babies/children have comparatively such large eyes relative to the size of their heads
>>290373542Who even cares at this point?
>>290373557It was nearly reaching 300 posts yesterday, that's slow, but not dead.>Now it's back to shitposts and cringe that have been noticeably absent for awhile.Those never went away.
>>290373592You know you can utilize the internet to see you're wrong, right?
>>290373669Ok
Retarded op is late as usual.
>>290372958Nta, but why would anyone who isn't a sperg care about that if they can just ignore anything that isn't the chapter or on-topic discussion and move on to some other thread?
>>290359932Must've meant he did it 6 years younger than however old Naruto will be when he finally does it. Eventually... Someday. Maybe by the end of Boruto.
>>290373805Hi OP
>>290373855No that's a good point, why should anyone really care about that?
>>290373592Thanks Grok.
>>290373855hello.
>>290373911No. You did not make a good point.
>>290373592Retard
Weird how all activity died at once.
>>290374618I'm sorry i didn't want to bother replying to the sperg anymore?
>>290374618OP stopped samefagging
>>290373670He's wrong, but it's a common medical myth.
>>290373233This is rich coming from a Narutofag. And if you aren't a Narutofag, then why would you be in this thread in the first place?
>>290375966you're late
>>290376112What?
>>290376175good morning saar
>>290375927Who cares? He's still retarded.